DWTS Season 10 – The Partnerships
I’ll be brief – for now. š These are from GMA’s Website:
Maks – Erin
Tony – Kate
Edyta – Aiden
Derek – Nicole
Mark – Shannen
Damian – Pam
Ashley Costa – Buzz
Anna T – Evan
Louis – Niecy
Cheryl – Chad
Chelsie – Jake
Dang, I called a couple of those right for a change!!!
VERY happy with Edyta/Aiden, Anna T/Evan, Chelsie/Jake. Also for Cheryl/Chad, although she’s won enough already. Bummer that Tony got stuck with Kate.
I really really hope that Anna/Evan go all the way this season. Long overdue! *fingers crossed*
I feel bad for Edyta… i really want her to get it in the end sometime soon…. >.<
Nice to see that the "new" female pro isn't so "new" after all… Can't wait to see Ashly again.
Who saw that coming?
Oops… i mixed Buzz w/ Aiden… nevermind about Edyta… I hope she makes it to the end this season! After ten seasons she deserves something… =) Especially since Alec already won once.
I’m so ecstatic that Evan is with Anna. Who called that one?! ME!!!!
I’m very excited to see Ashley DelGrosso/Costa back!
That’s awesome for Anna T. Looks like she finally got a partner that will be able to go far. Actually… a lot of these people seem like they will be able to go far. It looks like it will be a great season! (Can’t say that I’m upset with Derek getting a ringer either!)
I think this comp is Evan’s to lose and I find that I don’t care – he’s just that cute. š I do find the pairing surprising – I actually find a lot of the pairings surprising. They actually broke from their over all typing, for the most part.
Marianya, there was a good bit of discussion of Ashley around the message boards, so it was definitely being speculated by some. I didn’t bother with it because it always was JUST speculation. Speculation that turned out accurate. š
I will be STUNNED, ck, if Evan doesn’t make it to the end. Stunned. He’s a male Kristi and he’s even closer to his gold medal. He’s the biggest ringer of the season….and I don’t care because I lurve him. š
Heidi – Isn’t Evan suppose to be training for that Stars on Ice tour also? Won’t his schedule be insane crazy? Yes I know he’s young and all… but still…
I love Evan a lot too (he’s a native from my hometown =D) but I’m wondering if this is stacked against him knowing what he’s planning to do soon? Well, I guess he could ask his ex-gf for help when it comes to partnering skills if Anna isn’t around =P
Marianya, Katrina is the Evan expert, I’m just a recent admirer. š But yes, I was under the impression that some of the Stars on Ice shows even conflicted with the results shows. He’s a hard worker though, and Donny had to be in Vegas all the time and he’s nearly twice Evan’s age. He’ll be fine, I’m sure.
blah *throws arms up in surrender* I give up… all this speculating is liable to drive me nuts (as much fun as this is)… i’m going back to work =P
Glad to know who the cast is…i am looking forward to the first episode. not to mention finding out who the new co host is.
i knew that Anna T. would get Evan , Evan agent started follow Anna T on twitter on sunday, i’m so happy for her.
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I agree Evan will be the male Kristi & with Anna will likely go to the finals especially after riding on the heels of his gold medal. I predict Chad & Cheryl will be there too, don’t underestimate Ocho’s following, it’s huge & we know Cheryl will whip him into a dancer, he’s already got the “Jerry Rice” feet. Sadly Maks will once again be an early out, he’ll have to stay it in based on his own fan base certainly not Erin’s. Even I (a female in the DWTS demographics who happens to watch ESPN) have no idea who she is & unless she’s outstanding I don’t see them going far; poor Maks š Edyta matched up with a soap opera star? I don’t watch soap operas, never heard of this guy, thought she’d be with Chad. Too bad for Tony but I wouldn’t give Kate Gosselin a vote if she was the greatest dancer on the face of the earth, not sure what ABC is doing with this casting & yeah Dereks cute but i’m about Dererk’d out especially after last season. Of course they’ll always be the Derek fan base, doesn’t matter who his partner is. Chelsie was adorable with Louie Vito, who exactly is Jake the Bachelor, don’t know & don’t care. I have interest in only 2 of these stars (& Maks), otherwise there’s other things to watch on Monday nights. Putting this rather lame cast together with the new co-host doesn’t shout “huge season of DWTS” for me.
I called Edyta and Aiden, and Jake and Chelsie…And Ashly is spelled without an “e.”
I definitely would not underestimate Erin Andrews’ following. A LOT of people will vote for her because they followed her whole stalker/peephole video scandal. I personally love her because of how she handled herself, and I think a lot of other people will support her because of all of the issues she had to deal with. The people love a good story, and she def has one. I also think this is Evan’s season to lose, but there are a lot of people in this season that seem like they will do great. I can see it’s going to get realllly difficult to vote once we get to about the top 6. There seems to be a good mix of people with pretty evenly matched fan bases.
Evan and Ocho will be probably be there in the end b/c of huge fanbases and they have REALLY good teachers. I fell it is Evan’s to lose as well but he has to ensure he comes off a little more personable than the interviews I have seen him in.
Marianya (and Heidi), Evan is still going to do Stars on Ice! Its crazy! He just won’t be doing Sunday, Monday, or Tuesday shows… I think he’s a little nuts…I honestly think he’ll be doing only Saturday shows… I hope Anna can talk some sense in to him.
The boy is crazy, Katrina. But he’s cute so I’ll let him slide. š Seriously, there are a few people with potential (on paper), so if Evan wants to win Stars on Ice is not the best idea. It may not matter – it kinda depends on how good Ocho, Nicole and Erin are, not to mention the soap star. Really, I think these celebs (on paper) have potential. I keep saying “on paper” because you never know how they’re going to do until they get out there.
I agree Heidi, he’s nuts! I’m really hoping Anna can talk some sense into him or maybe after the first couple of weeks he’ll see how crazy it is. I know he’s such a hard worker that I’m worried he’ll burn himself out…
I agree, I think Evan has major potential but I also think he’ll be awkwardly geeky… I’ve seen his improv/dancing before, it’s rather adorable š
To me there are 5-6 solid dancers in the group which will make for a well-danced Season, and I look forward to that. Clearly Evan would appear to have a lock (Apolo, Kristi, Shawn . . ), which tee’s me off no end. But no where near as much as Derek Hough ONCE YET AGAIN getting a ringer — Zinger the Ringer — another Mya. DAMN he should be embarrassed at the favoritism he receives. Ugly. Erin Andrews is gorgeous and hopefully very danceable — and I wish MAKSIM a great season after so many hateful early outs. If it happens again, the show is dead to me. Ochocinco will do well, as may Aiden. Better dancing for many weeks, I suspect.
Umm I think Dmitry got Mya, not Derek….
And I’m not understanding the Derek “partner favoritism”…
Ever since he came onto the show during Season 5 he’s had the following partners:
– Season 5: Jennie Garth (actress of 90210 fame) finished 4th
– Season 6: Shannon Elizabeth (actress of American Pie fame) finished 6th
– Season 7: Brooke Burke (model) WINNER
– Season 8: Lil Kim (rapper that was recently freed from jail prior to start of season) finished 5th
– Season 9: Joanna Krupa (swimsuit model) finished 4th
If anything Derek hasn’t HAD the luxury of having anything close to a “ringer” in any season prior to Season 10… In the seasons that he was on the “known ringers” were.
– Season 5: Sabrina Bryan (Disney’s Cheetah Girls) partnered w/ Mark Ballas or Mel B (of Spice Girls) partnered w/ Maksim Chmerkovsky or Helio Castroneves partnered w/ Julianne Hough
– Season 6: Kristi Yamaguchi partnered w/ Mark Ballas
– Season 7: Lance Bass partnered w/ Lacey Schwimmer
– Season 8: Shawn Johnson partnered w/ Mark Ballas or Melissa Rycroft partnered w/ Tony Dovolani
– Season 9: Mya partnered w/ Dmitry Chaplin or perhaps Donny Osmond partnered w/ Kym Johnson
So honestly it seems pretty clear to me (though perhaps not to others) that Derek hasn’t been favored in terms of partners that were given to him. But you can’t help but admire his uncanny ability of really turning anyone he’s given into a dancer.
Besides, except for Brooke Burke he never finished higher than 4th… and none of his partners (save perhaps Brooke) can be considered a true “ringer” like how Evan and Nicole are considered this season…
…ON PAPER! =P
Come to think of it… If I’m bored enough i wouldn’t mind putting together a “celeb” analysis of the season and seeing where they place and what not… but if i remember correctly I think Heidi does that wonderfully week after week… =)
And OOPS I forgot to input info for the following…
– Season 5: Sabrina Bryan (Disneyās Cheetah Girls) partnered w/ Mark Ballas or Mel B (of Spice Girls) partnered w/ Maksim Chmerkovsky or Helio Castroneves (INDY race care driver) partnered w/ Julianne Hough
– Season 6: Kristi Yamaguchi (ladies figure skater also did pairs skating) partnered w/ Mark Ballas
– Season 7: Lance Bass (of NSYNC fame) partnered w/ Lacey Schwimmer
– Season 8: Shawn Johnson (gymnastics gold medalist) partnered w/ Mark Ballas or Melissa Rycroft (Bachelor fame and was a professional cheerleader) partnered w/ Tony Dovolani
– Season 9: Mya (R&B/hiphop singer and actress) partnered w/ Dmitry Chaplin or perhaps Donny Osmond (entertainer) partnered w/ Kym Johnson
Sorry I started putting in where each celeb is known for and ended up getting lazy in the end…
But yeah… There were definitely other pros (in my humble opinion) that have had more “ringers” than Derek… but that’s just me.
Helio was a ringer? Just because he’s from Brazil?
yeeeeaaaah… I had a brain fart there… sorry…
At the same time he’s an athlete and athlete know ALL ABOUT putting in the physical hard work… whileas models and actors… well they put in a lot of hard work, but not the same kind as athletes.
Derek Hough has never had a ringer, whereas Maks has – nice try at the revisionist history though, Joanie. Your jealousy is making you lose all rationality. Hell, Derek has never had a celeb partner with a serious fanbase – as such, the fact that four out of his five seasons he finished fifth or higher is quite an accomplishment. And it’s not Derek’s fault that Maks hasn’t done AS well – that’s how you’re making it sound and it’s ridiculous. BTW, it’s the VOTERS who determine who stays and who goes – maybe you should whine about them.
I LOVE your diplomatic words Heidi… so much better than the logic and stats I tend to use =P
LOL, Marianya – “on paper” indeed. I think you have it exactly right – and I would know because I’ve been making this argument for what seems like two years now. I don’t get where people think Derek gets ringers or is favored with great partners – for one thing you can’t tell except in the obvious cases, who is going to be a good dancer and who isn’t until they get out there. I think that Derek has a talent for bringing out the best in his partners and really showcasing them – that he consistently does very well (and his record is actually the best on the show despite having only won once because he finishes consistently high and hasn’t had any early outs) makes people BELIEVE there has to be a reason, such as ringers or favoritism, as opposed to him just being damn good. Sooner or later I’m sure he’ll get a partner that he can’t work magic with – and hey, if the people who look like they might be good actually are, that could demolish any ringer status. Figures the ONE season Derek gets a ringer there is a much bigger one on the show. š
Well, thanks, Marianna, but Courtney does the Power Rankings – I’m not allowed because I have a serious Hough bias (but at least I admit it š ) – in case you hadn’t noticed.
I don’t get how Mark escapes all the “ringer” complaints – the boy has had two of the biggest (okay THE biggest) ringers in the history of the show. Compared to Derek’s none. Strange.
To me a “ringer” is defined by someone who (in order of obvious-ness)
1) has a background in dance on any level in any arena – gee I wonder why? (key though is that the dance background probably SHOULD NOT have formal ballroom training in it)
2) has a background in athletic artistry (ie figure skating, gymnastics) – “artistry” because the celeb would be able to translate that onto the dance floor, “athletic” because dancing is, despite what people look at them to be, an athletic sport… >.<
3) has an athletic background – because these celebs would know just how much time, work, and effort it would take to get something done.
Everyone else is a "time will tell" kind of thing
Personally I like having "ringers" on shows… because it gives a standard for everyone else to strive for… in the end ringers don't HAVE to win… but without them we wouldn't be able to see the growth from everyone else in trying to catch up to the ringers… and in some cases beat the ringers. So yeah, I think ringers are actually GOOD for the show and in many ways a necessary part of it too.
Let’s look at Mark’s track record…
– Season 5: Sabrina Bryan (Cheetah Girls) finished 7th of 12
– Season 6: Kristi Yamaguchi (figure skater w/ pairs skating background) WINNER
– Season 7: Kim Kardashian (reality star?) finished 10th of 13
– Season 8: Shawn Johnson (gymnastics) WINNER
– Season 9: Melissa Joan Hart (actress of Sabrina the Teenage Witch) finished 9th of 16
You said it best yourself Heidi… Derek has been able to finish top five in four out of five seasons… while Mark has been all over the board. Without a “ringer” Mark can’t break top five… at all. And as you said, Mark got “ringers” in the two seasons that he won. All the other seasons he never came close (and one of them INCLUDED a ringer)… so people don’t remember him hitting top five like they do with Derek Hough.
The other part of it could be personality… Mark is more mellow on television than Derek is… Derek tends to hit WAY over the top, but that’s usually true for theatre actors (he’s done Footloose in the UK).
I think that you have it, although I think there is another kind of ringer – which often goes hand in hand with the other kinds. And that is personified in Donny Osmond – that is a fanbase that could not be beaten. A person with a huge fanbase is a ringer, because their fans will vote regardless and when they number in the millions…well, you get my drift.
I could understand the concept of fanbases.. but I was actually putting Donny Osmond in the first group of ringers for me:
1) has a background in dance on any level in any arena ā gee I wonder why? (key though is that the dance background probably SHOULD NOT have formal ballroom training in it)
Donny’s done musical theatre work which is heavy in dancing and he has the entertainer factor which fits in artistry too… So to me… even without a fanbase he’d still be considered a ringer despite the age.
I believe Derek did well more than Footloose in the UK – and that was on West End AND the road show. So yes, he has a strong theater background. The weird thing is Derek and Mark seem to switch personalities a bit when NOT on DWTS, from what I’ve seen. Derek seems a lot quieter and could be taken as standoffish – I think he’s actually an introvert. But he does perform for the camera – I think it’s innate. And I don’t say that as a criticism – on the contrary, I think Derek has a lot of potential away from DWTS in a large number of areas. That’s why I’m so interested in him – waiting to see what he does next. The Cheryl Cole thing, for example, blew me away. Also, when I say introvert, I mean it in the truest sense – boisterous people or people who seem outgoing can often be introverts. They keep their own counsel, keep everything close to themselves, the loud personality being a bit of camouflage. Can you tell I minored in Psychology?? š I recognize that in him because I am very similar.
Mark’s bio drives me insane – where Derek’s doesn’t mention his win, Mark mentions beating Derek, Julianne and his dad. I’m like, Dude – Kristi and Shawn and you’re taking credit for beating Derek, Julianne and your dad? Please. It strikes me as insecure. Even counting ALL of Derek’s partners, he’s never finished lower than 6th. Frankly, Derek should have been in the semi’s two additional times but got beat by an Osmond TWICE – Jennie was a better dancer than Marie, and I think Joanna technically got beat by fan favorite Kelly, but if Donny and his massive fanbase weren’t there it would have been a different show. And I don’t think any of his partners had what could have been called a serious fanbase, so that to me makes it significant.
YAY A psych minor… I happy…
I didn’t have time to take psychology as extensively as I would like… (somehow engineering classes ALWAYS seem to get in the way). I tend to be a bit of a people observer, always watching and comparing… etc.
Derek and Julianne and Mark strike me as more like siblings… and have a sibling rivalry going on here… Julianne and Derek seem to have the innate ability to branch out into anything and probably succeed… and Mark might feel like he’s just not as good as them and feels that while his “siblings” are able to do whatever they want successfully, he’s kind of “stuck” in dancing b/c that’s the only thing he’s really good at?
Like his upcoming solo album… Derek’s the producer? Somehow I think the insecurity could be drawn from that…
What other shows has Derek done in the UK? I have some vids of him in Footloose (not the actual theatre production but other public venues).
I have two degrees in Geology and work in an Engineering firm – I can relate about time. You do have to take electives in most BS programs – pretty easy to fit in a psych minor.
Derek was in Jesus Christ Superstar (I think in the lead role) and in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang – don’t know what role he had, and I’m not sure of the venues of those two, since one of Derek’s most annoying habits is NOT talking about what he’s done in any significant way. I’m sure there is a sibling rivalry thing and a good bit of insecurity and I don’t really blame Mark for that. Derek seems to garner more attention all the way around. But at the same time, Julianne is more popular than Derek (IMO, because pretty blond girls are much easier to market, particularly in country music) and you hear nothing but extremely supportive words from him towards her and Mark both. I don’t see a whole lot of *public* quid pro quo from Mark. I emphasis Public because no one knows what goes on between them. But it sure would be nice to see Mark do a “vote for Derek and ___” the way Derek did for Mark at the end of Shawn’s season.
I don’t think Derek got a producer credit on the EP (not album), but he’s the director of one of the videos. I could be wrong about producer because I haven’t been paying close attention to the EP in general. Derek did a video for Do You Love Me too, that was awesome, so I guess that’s another interest of many. Since Mark, it appears, did this on his own without a label, that is certainly a nod to Derek’s talent in that area, which is nice.
Heidi, just an FYI, Mark did musical theatre too š
Oh, I know Katrina, but Marianya asked what else *Derek* did. I had put in there that Mark played Judas to Derek’s Jesus but thought it sounded too mean, even though it was true. š I don’t think Mark ever had a lead role on West End like Derek did, though. I know in school….didn’t Mark like play Oberon or something in an updated Shakespearean play? I remember Derek tweeting a picture of a picture of Mark from School.
He did theatre as well as Musical theatre. Played “Tony” in Copa Cabana (UK Tour), Lead Dancer (In the states this is position is know as “Dance Captain” which is a huge deal) in the UK national tour of “Maria de Beunos Aires” and he was the understudy Ritchie Valens and Jerry Allison for UK national tour of “The Buddy Holly Musical”
Can you email me some info on both Derek and Mark in JCS (Jesus Christ Superstar)?
I’m sorry, Katrina, I just don’t pay much attention to Mark. It’s not that I dislike him (although he does annoy me tremendously at times), it’s just that he doesn’t interest me the way Derek does. The only thing I have on Derek and Mark in JCS is part of Derek’s biography that we have up on my other site: http://www.purederekhough.com/biography/pursuing-a-career/ This was researched pretty heavily by a couple of other fans, using interviews and articles – if you want info on Mark I could hook you up with them. They probably know since much of what Derek did at that time coincided with what Mark did. I don’t think Mark ever was on West End though.
These guys have done an awful lot when you consider that they’re 23 and 24 years old.
Wow Heidi, when you say you have a Derek bias, you weren’t kidding =P
Interesting though that the two went down similar paths… What was Julianne doing while those two were in theatre? =)
No that’s fine Heidi, its just I had never heard that both Mark and Derek did JCS.
“Iām very excited to see Ashley DelGrosso/Costa back!”
Me too. But I wonder why Ashley is so unlucky to always get partners that are likely to be eliminated fast. The guy she is dancing with has no chance to last.
Oh well, at this point it’s not clear that I’ll even be able to watch DWTS giving all the Cablevision-ABC nonsense…
Hey, when I have a bias I own up to it. I wish everyone was so inclined. š Usually, though, my bias *for* Derek doesn’t make me feel “anti” anyone else. That annoys me because it happens a lot. There is a huge Maks versus Dmitry argument going on at TWoP right now and it’s just ridiculous. Two different guys both with strengths and weaknesses. They are probably buds. Most of the dancers hang out together a lot so I don’t get why some of their fans have to be ugly. Like, Derek and Maks had a period of time right after Maks broke up with Karina where they were clubbing together a good bit. They’re all friends. Except maybe Karina and Maks. š
Julianne, I THINK, got homesick and went back to Utah after a few (five?) years. She had been Mark’s dance partner and he was *supposedly* pretty broken up by her leaving. That’s just what I’ve picked up over the last couple years – no idea how much of it is for real except for the Julianne going home part.
When you said, “clubbing each other” I imagine Maks and Derek going at each other w/ those plastic inflatable clubs…
And Derek defending Karina’s “honor” by taking pot shots at Maks… mildly entertaining.
But yeah… dancers clubbing each other w/ inflatable clubs totally made my day.
Marianya, I think I would actually pay money to see that. Particularly if they weren’t wearing shirts. š
STOP IT RIGHT THERE HEIDI…
Me = imaginative writer = imagination running away with me…
Soooo did NOT want that image in my head… especially since I’m at work.