DWTS Season 10, Week 8 – Miscellaneous Media
Derek and Nicole do a Show tune of their own creation.
The Insider
Entertainment Tonight
For those of you eager to paint Nicole with the ringer brush while letting Erin and Evan slide, here some fun stuff just for you from Karla in the comments of another post.
USA Today
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On the training she has had:
“Ballet, jazz, lyrical, all of that. But it is totally different with ballroom and partner. It’s a whole other language.”
Gee, that’s probably the same stuff that Nicole had!! Also without a partner!! As for Evan, well – ballet was his thing. And a hot picture of him in this article from New York Sports:
When we met him back in December, Lysacek ran down his training routine for us: “Weight training and biometrics every other day, cardio every other day, and ballet once a week. I usually hike on the weekends, and I do all my balance warm-up and cool-down stuff every day for an hour, and then I do court training every day for an hour.” It paid off during last night’s performance, when his back-loaded routine edged out Plushenko’s.
Hey, people keep saying dance experience is dance experience, regardless if it’s only just “chest pumps and booty dips” and not ballroom. So, unless you WANT to be a hypocrite, I guess some will have to concede that Erin and Evan have “experience” too. π
I didnt realize the Erin had dance experience until I saw on tv that she danced at the University of Florida. I agree that people are complaining to much about Nicoles experience. The thing that separates Nicole from Erin and Evan is her performance.
I did know that they had some dance experience, but I don’t really think about it. Every remaining contestant has the right to be on that show. What I do hate is that Everyone is ganging up against Nicole.
Cheryl with her comment during the post-performance interview with Brooke
Evan in one of his interviews:
“I think weβre pretty evenly matched, with the exception of Nicole. Sheβs in a league of her own, weβll say.”
I have read something about something that Erin & Niecy said, but I can’t find it anymore.
Yeah, Erin and Niecy both were being inexcusably bitchy about it – listen just because some one is GOOD doesn’t mean they had MORE dance experience than you (Erin) – it just means they are better than you. It happens. Brooke was the best on Season 7 – does that mean she had to have had dance experience? Of course not.
As for Evan, well, he wasn’t saying the same thing as the other two. He wasn’t trying to claim that Nicole had an unfair advantage, simply that Nicole is in a league of her own. Which she is.
As for the ganging up – it happens every season. Lots of jealousy, angst – plus they all have their favorites too. I will say, that if Nicole leaves next week, Evan WILL be getting all my votes, ringer or not. π
When I read the interview, Evan’s comment sounded very negative to me. That may not be the way he meant it, but still…
About ganging up: This is the first season I have watched, because I saw a dance from Nicole online, so I didn’t know that it happens every season.
If Nicole leaves, Evan will get my votes too, even though I still think that he has the personality of a tree (don’t know where I read that, but I agree with that person)
Unfortunately, I think everyone that has taken swipes at Nicole thus far is suffering from a bad case of jealousy, which is really kinda stupid. If past winners have been any indicator, you don’t have to be a “professional dancer” in order to win this competition – if anything, you just need a big fan base – so anyone whining about “unfair advantages” should also be bitching about celebs with a crap ton of fans, too…because that’s what will really determine the winner here. Mad that someone is dancing better than you are? WORK HARDER. Or shamelessly beg for votes via Twitter, Facebook, Myspace, the Insider, ET, Extra, or any other media outlet will listen. Whichever suits you.
I know, right? Maybe they should be complaining because they are on a season with a guy fresh off the freakin’ Olympics with a gold medal hanging around his neck. There is no reason that Evan can’t also be the best dancer in addition to having the biggest fanbase – except that he’s also doing a skating tour. Well, tough shit – maybe you should have thought of that BEFORE you signed on?
All the complaining could seriously backfire, I have to say. The only people who will care will be those invested enough to watch all those entertainment shows – and Nicole/Derek fans will just vote three times as hard because their favorite is getting dissed. May not matter – but maybe it will.
Of course, this is all a set up so that when he wins they can claim a “shocking upset” and that “people don’t like ringers” which is really only believable to less than smart people, IMO.
If I have anything to do with it, and the rest of us HoughZinger fans he won’t be winning!
You go, girl. π
In case there is any question – I’m talking to Karla. π
I just think everyone is so close on the show EXCEPT for Nicole. Niecy, Chad, Erin and Evan all seem to dislike her the most. Maybe none of them really dislike her but they aren’t as close to her as they are each other? Nicole does have a rather odd personality…but i mean they are all different! Erin is funny and so honest it hurts, Evan is quiet and sweet, Niecy and is funny and smart, Chad is horny π I don’t understand why some of you are saying its bad what they are ALL saying about Nicole but only throwing some of the commentors under the bus? LOL Evan could say he wants to kill someone and you’d still vote for him. Lord help us all if Erin or Chad said it! I noticed something too….Alot of Chad fans could care less about the show if he goes. Erin/Evan fans generally would vote for the other, maybe because they are great friends in real life? Nicole fans would rather see anyone but Erin win…of course i’m being general here but interesting! I think Nicole (or should i say Derek fans) fans have something against Erin! Is it the long limbs…the possibility that she can be on Nicoles level? Erin fans seem to be totally into Erin and Maks and can’t see beyond them. Unless they are Erins fans from ESPN who just want Maks out of the picture and more revealing clothes but whatever. Can’t wait to see what happens i do hope Evan, Erin and Nicole are in the top 3…starting to think Erin could win …and i thought for sure Nicole or Evan would!
Hyper, you’re making so many broad generalizations and strange assumptions, it’s almost pointless to respond – but I’m going to because I think broad generalizations and baseless accusations need to be addressed.
First off, you have NO WAY of knowing who dislikes anyone else on that show. That is a broad generalization based on what limited info you see and people have a tendency to project their OWN views on what they see.
Second, I don’t think you can simply attach a label to each of them and call it a day. They are human beings as complex as each of us. Now if you want to talk about some of their behavior – go for it. That’s a different thing that saying “Erin is honest” or “Chad is horny”. Better phrase is “Chad acts horny” or “Erin was being snotty”. If you don’t understand the distinction, Grammar lessons may be in order.
Third – talking about “chad fans” or “Derek fans” or “Nicole fans” (and yes, she has a legion of fans and fan groups and web pages dedicated to her) is again, a broad generalization. You think that Erin/Evan fans would vote for each other? You don’t follow DWTS on twitter do you?? You think “Derek fans” don’t like Erin? Again, you aren’t really paying attention. If you followed more DWTS stuff you wouldn’t make such a silly statement. There is NO consensus from a given fan group about who else or what else they like. That’s just crazy talk. All fans are different.
As for all the competitors liking every one except Nicole? Based on what? Show me proof. I have proof to the contrary. Nicole seems to be perfectly friendly with everyone else, even Erin – despite Erin throwing her under the bus from time to time. Now, she may not go out partying with them all the time, but that hardly indicates they all hate her. She has said that she goes to the recording studio when she can. Hell, if you look at that Pros segment from the other night, going by what you say they all hate each other. Is that true? Doubtful.
Back up your claims.
Niecy told a media outlet and i’m sure you’ll here more of it soon….she is voting for Erin and Evan. I never said that they hate each other…When did Erin throw Nicole under the bus? Unless you count the entire top 5 throwing her under the bus ….why only talk about Erin?
Oh yea if Erin or Evan were to get voted off i think their fans would go to the other in general. Of course you can’t say everyone obviously….i mentioned that. What are you like the sheriff of this thread or is it the whole website? People can’t come on here and say what they feel? Look i’m not gonna act like a care about grammar and punctuation that much on the freakin web honey, i have to deal with that in class every freakin day. However i will tell you what a tond of my friends think…and i don’t know for sure who you like or not but OVERALL from my crew the top two should be Evan and Erin. Nicole comes across as so “is this my good side”….”i’m an artist i’m not like other people”….lol.
Hyper, there’s something about your posts that struck me, and I just CAN’T seem to put my finger on it, but there’s something bothering me. But it’s late.
The producers are the ones, I THINK, who seem to be throwing the cast under the bus. THEY are the ones who control what we see in the packages. And, if you were watching back in Season 6, Adam Carolla mentioned once that they scripted the packages. They take hours upon hours upon hours of footage of them rehearsing every single week. What do we see? A very select few moments… 2 minutes TOPS, if we’re lucky, of whatever the producers decide is going to be the storyline of the week.
I’ve seen Tony mention it, I’ve seen Maks mention it, and I’ve seen Derek mention it… HOURS AND HOURS of great times, laughing, fun, and hard work. What are the packages that we saw for Kate, and see for Erin and Nicole? DRAMA!
Why? Who knows… Ratings? Trying to make an even playing field? Manipulating the viewing public so that the most talented isn’t going to win?
So, you and your friends seem to think Nicole feels she’s better than everyone else…. Because you get maybe 2 minutes out of 20-30 hours a week?
I’ve wondered for most of the season why it seems that Evan is getting all the great packages, and everyone else is getting squat?
You said they dislike her – and you still got nothing. She’s voting for Evan and Erin and that means she dislikes Nicole?? So I suppose she dislikes Chad too? Niecy’s attitude says more about Niecy than it does about Nicole. If you want to see where Erin threw Nicole under the bus – or talks negatively about her, go back through all my posts – I’m not doing it for you. It’s been talked about on this site for a while.
As for the rest of them, I haven’t seen them doing that – saying you’re going to vote for Erin and Evan is not throwing Nicole under the bus (unless you’re 5), neither is saying she’s in a league of her own (hello, she IS). But Erin has been talking about other contestants for a while now – snarking on Jake about not wearing pants was one thing that springs immediately to mind. The other contestants haven’t been doing that.
A ton of your friends? Oh, that’s impressive – except that 20 million people watch this show and lots of them aren’t on the web.
And YES, I am the sherriff of this thread and yes, you can express your opinion (as long as you remain civil) – but I can express my opinion and tell you you’re still using broad generalizations and extremely faulty logic. That’s the funny thing about opinions – EVERYONE gets one. And those that don’t like people arguing with them are the first to whine.
You deal with grammar in class?? Heh. Not very well. π But thanks for the heads up – now that you’ve confirmed you’re a teeny bopper I understand the faulty logic completely. No offense to teens that don’t have this issue. I do know a few.
Lori, what struck you about Hyper is that she has the exact same IP address as Cassie Lynn – which means she’s either exact same person or that persons room mate. I’m thinking it’s the exact same person, since she’s in school. Perhaps her sister? LOL. I just LOVE it when people sign on under other names trying to make their opinions seem more widespread. π
Other than that, you bring up a very good point – and one that some seem eager to forget, since it ruins their “Nicole is awful” campaign. They do practice for hours and hours every day and we see 30 seconds. The producers want drama – and I do wonder why Nicole’s been getting the crappy packages, since I post plenty of video of her and Derek having fun in rehearsals. Trying to even the playing field?? Possibly. Are they looking for a supposed “Upset” even though anyone with a brain knows that Evan has a clear advantage? I dunno. Maybe just drama. Maks has been showing his frustration with the packages too – when you see him after they play a particularly unflattering package of him and Erin, he transmits his displeasure pretty well.
funny how you were not defending MYA last season. In fact, I recall some real bitchy things being said on this site regarding her experience. it does not bother me in the least bit whether someone has experience or not. I just find it annoying when people find it so easy to be hypocrites.
Jeanmom, since when is making the observation that a contest has previous experience bitchy? Because that’s all I can recall doing – just mentioning it, without any sort of spin on it. Now, we may have ragged on Mya for making snarky comments about other contestants (just like we’ve called Erin out on this season – and I feel justified in that, it’s just mean), and been “disappointed” with her because of her lack of performance value, but we never “bitched” about her previous dance experience. I actually recall mentioning it as a positive. Don’t try to put words in our mouth.
Hehe…I definitely got a kick out of hearing that certain individuals were using multiple logons to make it appear as though their opinion was the majority – in doing that, they just completely discredited themselves and their views. Y’know, if this were a legit, professional study (like a college professor might do for their research), those individuals could be charged with academic dishonesty for fabricating the results of their survey to support their hypothesis – career suicide, if you’re in a scientific field. Thankfully, this site isn’t a controlled study, so you are just gonna get laughed at rather than professionally disgraced…but I thought I’d just draw the parallel π
I said that Mya had experience and that she was a ringer. I said Nicole (and Erin and Evan) have experience and are ringers. Wow, how hypocritical of me!!!
The big difference is that I thought Mya was cold and had no personality and no chemistry with Dmitry while I think Nicole does have personality, is warm and very emotional and her chemistry with Derek is fabulous. You only think that is bitchy because you love Mya. It may be bitchy, but I don’t see a whole lot of hypocrisy in it. You like who you like – doesn’t make you a hypocrite. Should I defend her just because? Why?
I will give you credit, Jeanmom – at least it appears you’ve always posted under the same name. π
Heidi – like you said, the producers want drama. And they want to show a story line for each couple each week. “Having fun in rehearsals” is great and enjoyable to watch but doesn’t really amount to a story line. Like I said earlier, the reason Evan gets “favorable” packages is because there is simply no drama/negative moments to exploit in his footage. I’ve seen hours of his rehearsals and never seen anyone so consistently positive.
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt on the “no drama” thing – easy to say, difficult to prove. But Evan’s lack of “drama” could also work strongly against him. It’s dangerous to be VANILLA – some translate it to boring. He’s starting to fade into the background…hence the snoring by the Dance Center guys.
And I don’t want that. As much as I am not an Erin fan any more, if it is NOT Nicole, Evan and Erin in the final three, I’ll be rather pissed off. The three of them have earned it and if Chad gets in based on a showmance with Cheryl – well, that ain’t right. Even if it’s Erin that he bumps!
Luckily Derek tweeted that he would make rehersal packages on his own. Can’t wait to see the fun!!!
You are swimming against the tide if you are trying to convince us that Erin is as ringy as Evan and especially Nicole. (I say especially because Evan is also putting on four shows a week in diff cities every night, which evens the playing field a lot.)
And I get quite a good chuckle over complaints about Derk/Nic’s practice packages . . . while Maks’ have always been taken as gospel complete truth about him, right?
I appreciate that you all are putting up the good fight defending Derk/Nic, but the damage she did herself with “I’m an artist, not like other people” and similar just can’t be undone. It’s like trying to unring a bell . . . it keeps reverberating.
The judges fairly shouted “RINGER” by giving them 10’s from the beginning. You can’t undo it now. And you can’t shift it to Erin because her growth arc has been too obvious to the audience.
I’d love an Evan and Erin final. Two stars with both humility and competitiveness. That would be a fun final, without any smirks.
Sometimes I appreciate Nicole’s packages (most of the time not), because it shows her human side. I would totally crack under the pressure and it’s part of the show being a reality show. However the editors show her breaking down almost every week and I wonder why they don’t get it that it’s starting to bore people.
On Erin: I think that she is funny and an ok dancer. Her growth isn’t really in the dancing I think, but more in the confidence. She doesn’t hesitate anymore (or a lot less) and dares to shine. The fights between her and Maks are just hilarious to me, it’s just hard for me to take it too seriously. Especially because the next moment they’re the best buddies on the world.
Actually, Joanie, you should read Maks latest blog – he smirks, rants against other contestant – basically throws everyone under the bus then goes on to say that he and Erin only think about themselves and that they are awesome. So, is he stupid or the biggest hypocrite of all? NO HUMILITY there at all. It’s laughable that you would even suggest it. You can’t un-ring a bell, that’s for damn sure – but Maks should be more worried than Nicole. He’s been “ringing” for too long and too loud. At least she only talks about herself. BTW, if you had any reading comprehension skills, you would clearly have seen that I conceded that Maks/Erin were getting bad packages too – but he does it SO OFTEN (and then backs it up in writing) that it’s indefensible. His fans must be used to it because they don’t even seem to see it anymore.
As for Evan and Erin in the final – hey, I can handle that – DEREK has already won a mirror ball trophy. The people vote and if that’s what they want that’s what they get – but can YOU handle it if it doesn’t go your way? Somehow I doubt it.
Cindy – I know, awesome, right? When you’re sick of something like bad packages, instead of writing about it and talking down other people in a blog, make your own packages. I sure hope he does it, because his first one was really fun. π
Why are the comments so slow, as in I can’t read them here after they have been posted. So I have to read the comments in my mail. But let’s move on π
Actually I haven’t read Maks’ blog yet, has it been posted here? I’ll go looking for it after this comment.
I think if the packages bug him enough, he’ll do it. And he better do it or else… eh… if he doesn’t we should urge him to do it. He seems to listen to his fans (asking for votes)
The site is cached so sometimes it takes a bit for them to show up. Yes, it is annoying.
No, I haven’t posted Maks’ blog yet – nor Derek’s for that matter. Derek sounds a little discouraged by how the producers are showing them – I would be too, if I had fun all week and all they showed was the five minutes I spent upset. But, he’ll handle it. He always does. He’s on The Insider panel tonight, so that should be interesting. Plus, he was with Nicole at the recording studio last night (I think it was last night) so maybe they’ll show that she’s working on something else too – not just Niecy and Evan. As for Derek’s fans – now that he said it, they will be clamoring for it. π
Oh, that’s cool! Could you post his parts on the insider on the site? (I did see a part of his interview on the insider website, but I don’t think it’s the whole thing, because in the pictures he tweeted, Niecy was there)
They could show Nicole recording, but I don’t know. Nicole also made an apperance last week at pure that didn’t make any sense. But they didn’t show that this week. So we’ll see, maybe it will be the first Derek-package. It will be annoying if they get eliminated this week before he has posted another clip.
It doesn’t air here until the middle of the night, so it will be tomorrow unless one of the other content posters on YouTube gets it up sooner. π
I don’t know what the Pure thing was (other than she looked great), but Derek stayed home to watch the fights. Boys. But, remember that thing last season with Derek and Joanna doing the rescue dogs thing (something that Derek has been doing for a while, I just figured out)? It aired, like, two weeks after they actually shot it, but they made it look like it was something they had done that week. Weird. So, just because we know they shot something this week doesn’t mean it will show up this week. Could be next week. I do hope they show her singing, she’s got some pipes on her – which is highly unusual for a pop star type. π
* his parts of/from the insider on this site
Sorry for my crappy English π
And I have found Maks’ blog on the net and I’m starting to dislike him now. And now I am thinking that he really isn’t a nice person. I agree with Heidi that he is either stupid or the biggest hypocrite alive.
Uh, Heidi. Calm down, hun. You’re sputtering . . . in print.
Ok, Don’t worry though. You can upload it (insider thing) whenever you want. Tomorrow is my homeworkday, I need to catch up with a lot of homework. So I will probably not see it till tomorrow around this time.
Oh, I hope that they will air it. At first, before I became a fan of Nicole, I thought that singing was stupid (I know, don’t blame me, I didn’t like English songs, because I didn’t listen to the lyrics. It took too much time to translate it.) Now I can’t stop singing (off key, but no one to hear it :D) Nicole is one of the best singers I have ever heard, I hope that America can hear it.
LOL – And Joanie confesses she’s got nuthin’ else. π
Heidi – I didn’t say that Evan’s lack of drama was a great thing, and I agree it’s bad to be boring. I was just trying to explain why he seemed to get more “positive” packages is all. π They may show Nicole in the recording studio but I’m not sure if we’ll be able to hear her singing, as then they would have to clear rights to the song I think.
Derek has choreographed some of the most memorable dances of any season. Quickstep, tango, paso and foxtrot were spectacular. Joanie needs a life.
Why did TV Guide only include Evan and Nicole on the cover? Erin and Chad can surprise everyone with their fan bases.
I concede, Heidi, I yield!!! You are the master SNARK, decimating other’s with ease. I dare not speak for fear of being sputtered to death.
So much for finding intelligent commentary on Pure DWTS . . . the site showcasing Heidi’s high art of sarcasm and boosterism for Derek the Hough.
(BTW I find it TOO TOO funny that Derek is going to produce his own practice clips in order to restore praise and glory for his team on the airwaves. With each protest, he proves once again that they BOTH believe they are entitled to only the highest PRAISE, ADORATION and huzzahs for their artistry. His protests are hysterical!!! )
Beats me, John. Usually (well, every other year) they do an actual photo shoot with the final 5 and then put the final 4 on a fold out. I guess they aren’t making enough money to do that any more. All the couples are on the inside of the magazine, including Niecy…and Pam I think.
LOL, Joanie, yer so silly.