DWTS Season 11, Week 5 – Dancing by the Numbers
Ahhh…time for some math. Every week it gets a bit trickier to predict. Several people have noted that, so far this season, the low score goes home. Now, is that because there’s no real ringers, or is it that the judges have finally figured out how to protect the good dancers from the big personalities with poor technique?? I’m tempted to go with the latter, but who knows? Every time I try to figure out how they’re playing with the scores, I come to the inescapable fact that Bristol really is NOT a good dancer and Kyle really doesn’t have much technique – so maybe they’re getting the bottom ones right in any case and aren’t soft pedaling it anymore. I don’t think that Florence deserved a 21, however, and that 21 may have saved her to dance next week. I also don’t think that Audrina deserved a 23 – but she certainly is a better dancer than Kyle, Bristol and Florence, so…is giving her a 23 so wrong? Particularly since the band and the singers screwed up.
Anyway, you can visit my inaugural post on this subject to see how the bottom two are determined – not that we’ve seen an actual bottom two yet, but you get my drift. Here’s how our celebs ranked this week:
The Judges Scores and Percentages
| Place | Celebrity | Score | Percentage |
| 1. | Brandy | 27 | 14.84 |
| 2. | Jennifer | 25 | 13.74 |
| 3. | Kurt | 24 | 13.19 |
| 4. | Rick | 24 | 13.19 |
| 5. | Audrina | 23 | 12.64 |
| 6. | Florence | 21 | 11.54 |
| 7. | Kyle | 20 | 10.99 |
| 8. | Bristol | 18 | 9.89 |
Right out of the gate I’m going to call Brandy, Jennifer, Kurt and Rick safe – they all have a score of 24 or higher and the bottom score getters would all have to get serious votes to catch them. For example, for Kurt or Rick to be eliminated, ALL of the following would have to happen:
-Bristol would have to get 33k more votes per 1 million votes cast;
-Kyle would have to get 22k more votes per 1 million votes cast;
-Florence would have to get 16,500 more votes per 1 million votes cast, and;
-Audrina would have to get 5,500 more votes per 1 million votes cast.
That is assuming, of course, that neither Brandy nor Jennifer are getting beat badly by Kurt or Rick in the votes. For either Brandy or Jennifer to be eliminated, both Rick and Kurt would have to be getting at least 5,500 more votes per 1 million votes cast than them PLUS all of the above folks would have to get those votes to beat Rick and Kurt PLUS an additional 5,500. That’s a LOT of votes and it only takes one person not making that for everyone else to be safe. So, it comes down to Bristol, really.
As the low score getter, Bristol needs to do ONE of the following to be safe:
-Get 11,000 more votes than Kyle per 1 million votes cast;
-If Kyle is whupping her in votes, then she needs 16,500 more votes than Florence per 1 million cast;
-If she can’t get that many more votes than Kyle or Florence, then she would have to get 27,500 more votes than Audrina per 1 million cast.
And the numbers just go up from there. So, is Bristol beating Kyle, Florence or Audrina?? You know, if it weren’t for that monkey suit, I would say that any of those would be possible. As it stands, I’m really not sure. So, on to further discussion…
Here’s my problem – while Audrina had a respectable score last night, she danced in the middle of the pack, not at the top of the hour and it was NOT a standout dance. Audrina NEEDS to have a stellar dance because she’s not got the personality of Kyle, the nostalgic fanbase of Florence Henderson or the conservative bloc that Bristol probably has behind her. Alaska’s population isn’t that big, but they and their conservative counterparts are highly motivated. So, I wonder – just how safe is Audrina?? For her to be eliminated, ALL of the following would have to happen:
-Bristol would have to get 27,500 more votes than Audrina per 1 million cast;
-Kyle would have to get 16,500 more votes than Audrina per 1 million cast; AND
-Florence would have to get 11,000 more votes than Audrina per 1 million votes cast.
This is assuming that all those with higher scores are either getting the same or more votes than her, which is probably a safe bet. I come back to Bristol again. I think that Kyle could be beating Audrina, and possibly Florence what with the Brady Bunch (and Barry Williams) Factor. Bristol?? I keep getting hung up on Bristol. That’s a lot of votes she needs to surpass Audrina.
Boy oh boy – my brain keeps telling me that Audrina is in danger. Here’s why: I remember Bristol’s dance because of the monkey suits. I remember Florence because of Barry Williams and the song. And I remember Kyle because he’s KYLE and he’s been charming the pants off everyone for a couple weeks now. I think he’ll last until 5th place! But I don’t have any clear recollection of what Audrina did last night, other than the fact that her movements all seemed to stop short. There was no drama, no WOW, no…anything. And will the audience recognize that the band kinda hosed her and Tony? I doubt it.
I guess I have to make a prediction, don’t I? Time to quit stalling. I’m going to say that Bristol goes home, but that Audrina is in the bottom 2 – and that they call it a bottom 2. Why? Because Audrina is a better dancer than that and they’ll want to scare the audience into voting next week.
Now…tell me why I’m wrong, before the show proves me wrong.








I agree. I think Audrina is in trouble. I was following online on the abc chat and Audrina and Bristol had the most negative responses. Bristol should go home but her supporters are very vocal. It will be interesting.
Audrina’s performances need more spunk and energy. I think she’ll be in the bottom 2 along with Bristol. But this show is so unpredictable.
Nah, Audrina ain’t going home tonight. The gap it too deep for that to happen.
DWTS likes drama so they might put her in the fake B2 though.
I’d really disappointed if Audrina goes home because it was clearly not their fault.
Heidi, I think I will have to agree with your prediction. Though Audrina scored high her performances are not very memorable. Kyle on the other hand may have not had a great performance but his personality always shines through. Bristol is probably going home but Audrina is definitely in jeopardy when it comes to popularity/votes at least for this show. It just may be a shocking elimination who knows.
I guess I’ll have to watch Tony/Audrina’s dance again not understanding why you all are saying it was not their fault and the band and singers messed up. It just wasn’t a very exciting performance from what I remember of it. She does seem to have the capability to do well though, Tony just has to challenge her more.
Heidi if you keep saying Audrina is in danger Nathan will go into a panic attack, we’ll have to break out the defibrillator blah blah blah, and it just wont end good so lets just not go there. ever. looool jk
I think Audrina is going home. I don’t think she should, I just think Bristol’s fan base might just surprise us all…
Well where i live if this means anything. There are alot of conservitave christians that love her and are voting for her. I voted for her ALOT and so is my family both right and left wingers. And she really came out of her shell this week. People like her and im thinking we finally might see a suprise elimination…..Idk but that might somewhat answer your question.
Sure missed a couple of days of great posts because my computer is down. I have to agree with you Heidi. I do think Bristol and Audrina are in danger tonight. Though I think Audrina is the one that should stay as she is a better dancer, I remember Bristol’s dances a lot more. It would be a surprising elimination if it was indeed Audrina going home. Can’t wait to see what happens.
I think Bristol will be leaving. Last night, Mark just over-danced with his footwork and Bristol was not remotely keeping up with all of the stuff Mark was doing. It made her look like a cardboard cut-out.
She seems so terribly uncomfortable on the dance floor and just can’t relax and enjoy the experience.
I am going to need to re-watch the video of Rick from last night. Yeah, he looked hot and all but I just didn’t see him doing great dancing. From what I remember, he mostly just walked around.
Audrina just looks vapid. Makes me want to knock on her forehead and ask if anyone is home. Her dancing is better than what she did last night…that was just not good at all.
What Kyle lacks in ability he makes up for in personality. He just shines! He’s fun to watch and acts like he is having a ball out there.
I don’t want to see Bristol go but agree it probably will be her if this follows the trend of previous weeks. I hope her fan base pulls her through and we do get a surprise.
Oh Heidi, that is scary about Audrina. I hope it won’t be her and Tony in the bottom two. But, I can see it happening for how you reasoned and figured it and it was a forgettable dance (LOL Zach. So true about what Nathan will think). Even so, I’m going to say it’s Bristol and either Florence or Kyle with her in the bottom two.
” Prays with Heather for shoking elimination ” LOOOOL!
And people say *I’m* harsh? LOL! You guys are cracking me up.
No tweet from Bergeron yet. I keep looking for a clue and he’s not cooperating.
According to Dial Idol (which I know is not that accurate due to the online voting), they have Audrina and Bristol as the bottom two and Kurt and Anna at number one.
Interesting and looks like your on the money with the bottom dwellers.
I’d like to see Florence stick around long enough to get a date with Len. Even though he is quite a bit younger than Florence….she’d give him a run for his money!!
Haha, Zack. I had a bad feeling something would go wrong and Heidi is confirming it. I hope Audrina doesn’t go home, but yes, Bristol might surprise us all. I’m at school right now, so I want to say so much more, but can’t. More later…
Patti, I think Len has been married for a very long time. They would be cute together though.
Yeah, Dial Idol has a very poor track record on DWTS for the reason you stated. Online voting is HUGE for fans of the pros and probably some of the celebs too. By such a huge margin that it really can’t be relied on for anything. I will give them credit – the post quite clearly when they’ve gotten something wrong. I haven’t looked at their track record in a few weeks, though, so I’ll have to see how they’re doing.
# Princess Heidi commented on October 19th, 2010: Patti, I think Len has been married for a very long time. They would be cute together though.
Oh crap….you are right—Len is married! nevermind.
The bias by the judges for and against some couples was evident and embarassing this week. They seem to be kissing Maks’ butt for grief they have given him in past seasons. Brandy and Maks were disjointed through the whole first half of the dance and got 9′s? What does Carrie Ann have against Tony and Audrina? They do everything the judges ask and only get 8′s? No she wasn’t dead! Audrina was connected to Tony as she is supposed to be in a Rumba! Carrie Ann docks Tony and Audrina for a lift, but lets Cheryl get away with her feet dangling like a rag doll 8 inches off the ground! Florence can do no wrong, Kyle can do no right! Judge fairly. If you’re going to judge one couple easy, judge ALL couples easy! One hard and detailed, ALL hard and detailed. STOP with the favoritism!
OMG you guys are scaring me putting Flo and Len together!
Nathan, I think you should skip school and get back in here. lol
I guess I’m just wanting to see a ‘showmance’ from anyone this year!
Last year, it was Maks and Erin….this year nothing. I miss seeing a connection with the partners.
It could be Florky going.
Why do you say that, Andie?? Did I miss a Bergeron tweet??
Im scared now. Wat the heck did he tweet!? If we have another Sabrina and Mark elimination ima be ticked!!!!
Not basing this on anything, except we’re moving into 2 dances next week. It doesn’t seem to bode well for ones with less stamina. I think Florence has done really well, but she’s 76 dancing like she’s 76. There’s a point at which it just might not be something the show is willing to risk. Bristol is absolutely terrible, but she’s got a far fewer miles on the tires.
Very Andie. It’s going to be hard for Florence to dance twice next week. The dance marathon will be especially hard to do after their first dance.
Ok, I’m temporarily back. OK, here I go:
This tweet from Tom is not just a tweet. There is a hint somewhere here. Tom is sneaky so, look for clues, people. I haven’t found one yet:
http://yfrog.com/5c2hoej
Get to work everyone! LOL
Oy, my spine is tingling. I hope Brandrina isn’t out. Oh boy.
LOL! I studied it and not sure what to think.
Maybe he’s just teasing us. Darn you Tom! LOL.
Hooray! Class is over! Get to go home and discuss DWTS!!!! GO BRANDRINA!!!!!!!
I know Audrina is safe because I used all of my 8 votes on her [Heidi, did I make you cringe? Thought you might like a good laugh today
!] No, I used waaay more than 8 for both sides of Brandrina and now, I’m hoping it’s enough! Here we go!
Last night was a huge step backwards for our gal Bristol. Not sure where Mark’s head is at these days, but something is definitely not clicking because I still think she has big potential. Based on last night alone, Bristol should be going home
But that would only be a short reprieve for Florence, who I don’t see surviving the first 2-dance round. She’s done well, and kudos to her for sure, but I agree with Andie – she’s 76 and she dances like she’s 76. Adding to the frustration – we’re about due for a surprise elimination. Every bye-bye thus far has been right on target vis-a-vis judges scores/comments. The only candidate for the surprise exit is Audrina, unfortunately. She’s got the ability – she just needs to read a page out of Kyle’s book. Whatever technique Kyle is lacking, in makes up for in spades with personality. I think he’ll be around a few more weeks for sure and will give the two athletes a run for their money for a spot in the finals … unless there are more 5 paddles in his future, of course.
What up with the pic of Dick van Dyke and the other old dude in the background? Does this mean an old person ( Florky ) is out ) Who knows?
The old dude, is Carl Reiner who was also on the Dick Van Dyke show, and Rob Reiner’s dad. I don’t know if there’s any connection to Florence .
Dick van Dyke makes me think of Jen & Derek’s number. I know they were dancing to the music of “Married …. With Children” but the routine resembled a Dick & Mary Tyler Moore theme. Surely, if there is indeed a connection, it must mean that J&D are safe, because everyone in that photo is smiling and hanging with Tom
Someone on Purederekhough put a link in the comments to a 50′s TV show that uses Love and Marriage too – didn’t watch it so I can’t verify.
Looks like it’s bye bye Flo.
OH YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Man this is awesome! Kyle and Bristol safe! It must be ” Male Zack Happy night “.
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Jennifer and Derek in Jeopardy…LOL
LOL ZACK!!!!!
Patti, I think you might be right!
Yeaahhh…I’m not too worried. Of course, it could happen and if it does that’s the way the ball bounces. But I think it’s going to be Audrina. They’ll call Flo safe I bet.
Rick and Cheryl in Jeopardy.
Who the hell are all these strange pros dancing and why aren’t OUR pros doing it??
YES! My baby is safe! I love you Audrina!!!!
Florky in danger.
Sometimes I wonder if they give guest dancing spots to pros they are considering as future show pros, and so are looking to test audience reaction.
Oh Gawd, my Dad is probably having a heart attack with Cheryl and Rick in the bottom two.
Awwwww. Sorry Miss Brady!!
Florky says goodbye. And they keep screwing with Rick and Cheryl almost every second week, which of course means they’ve got a lot of fans.
What a Lady with a capital “L”. I’m going to miss Florence! I’m so glad she did the show this year!
And Learntodance called it again this week
http://www.learntodance.com/dwts_vote_results.htm
Well, I guess we know a little more about the size of Bristol’s fanbase now.
I don’t think so, Andie – they had Bristol leaving earlier today. When the voting supposedly closed.
It doesn’t matter if the voting was “supposedly” closed. When fans get excited for their favorites they continue to vote. these are the same ones who are power voting on abc. Doesn’t matter the time.
Did anyone really believe Derek and Jen were not coming back? oh puleeze
That’s not what you said last time they got it wrong. You said it closed and that’s when it mattered. They get lucky.
I’m not so sure about that, mmc. She only had to get 16,500 more votes that Florence to stay. In the grand scheme of things that’s really not shocking and certainly not impossible.
Andie, I don’t think constant jeopardy means they have a lot of fans. Some could look at it the opposite way. I think they’re just going for drama OR they want to get people voting more.
According to Learntodance, Jen has been in the top 3 every week, but it was only last week that she was the top vote getter. The only other one who is close to that is Rick, who is also top 3 and it was just this week that he was the top vote getter.
I don’t think Jen has been the top vote getter every week but she’s close, and that’s a good place to be.
It’s when you become the top vote getter near the end of the competition consecutively, like Nicole was for week 9 and week 10 last season that sealed it for Nicole and Derek.
Heidi, if Rick was a bottom dweller they would have gleefully called it a bottom 2. They still haven’t said that to him. Instead they’re doing the Helio to him.
So what?? That doesn’t mean they have lots of fans. The one doesn’t lead to the other. There is a lot of middle ground there still.
But Andie, nothing you are saying is actually scientifically VALID. You can’t take some poll on some site that the majority of viewers don’t even know about and claim that Rick or Jennifer or Brandy is the top vote getter on a given week. It’s still an odds game – not a guarantee. Of course it gets more accurate as you get closer to the end…oh hell. Never mind. Believe what you want, I’m not going to explain it all to you again.
Is it just me or are the judges ticking off the pros even more than usuall this season! Whats going on with those judges. Is Len still mad about that British Space Program crack after Buzz and Ashly’s Waltz, Did one of Carrie Ann’s cats get hit by a car?, Did Clay Aiken dump Bruno? You decide! And make sure to tune into to DANCE WAR:Kym,Chelsie,Louis,Karina, Corky, Anna T, Cheryl, Tony, Derek, Mark, Lacey, and Maks VS Len, Carrie Ann, and Bruno. Coming soon to a theater near you! I know its kinda cheesy but it could be fun if we had like a Mud Pit……..
And ROTFL at Hedi’s last post! Your smart to stop trying….Andie doesnt stop he just keeps talking only to get humiliated farther.
Re: Bristol’s fanbase, I didn’t mean that it was enormous or anything (though I guess it could be). But it seems safe to say that it shouldn’t be underestimated, because she clearly is getting plenty of votes.
The next big question is who will Florky’s votes go to now. Hmm…
Well, not so much a surprise elimination as a surprise save -Bristol
Florence’s good-bye was a class act. I’ve said it before – I’ll say it again: I hate it when someone has to be sent home. The first handful of weeks I’m cool with it, because .. you know, there are always those teams that just have to go
Her elimination not so much of a surprise – if not this week, then next for certain. Hope Bristol realizes she’s been given a gift and makes the most of it. She’s got nothing to lose, so just let it loose, girl, just let it loose. I have to say, though, I think if Corky had played it straight with his choreo, she would been in the competition longer.
Jen & Derek in jeopardy was just a red herring – I agree with who ever said that they each have a powerful fan base in their own right. And they damn well deserve to stay in the competition, no matter your opinion of their Fox Trot.
Whatever your opinion of Kurt, I don’t recall seeing any diva behavior or whining from him. Now granted … those are subjective terms. And different regions of the country have their own dialect, their own perspective. Down here in the gratefully beautiful South, “I wish the scores could have been better” does not qualify as a whine. Nor does Bristol’s “these scores suck.” Down round these parts, a whine would be “no faaaaaayer … I want good scores, too. It’s just not right .. everyone else is getting good scores. I can dance, too, you know .. the judges hate me, I don’t know whyyyyyyyy.”
LOL
Brooke’s a fine looking woman, but she’s somewhat of an airhead. I hate her interviews (thank heavens for Tom). I, along with ALL the contestants, am so tired of the “how do those scores make you feel” questions. How do you freaking think??? I’m overjoyed? I’m delighted? AARGH! Come on, Brooke, get it together. You were a contestant for crying out loud … think BEFORE opening mouth! Take a look at the gal (her name escapes me) who co-hosts the british Strictly Come Dancing show (premiered the 1st of October) …. OK, she sets a pretty high standard, but you could learn a LOT.
OK .. thanks for letting me get that off my chest .. I feel better already. LOL
Audrina should have joined Brisol in those clown classes
I am a Maks fan, I admit, but I cannot warm up to Brandy. To tell you the truth, I can’t even put my finger on the “why” of that. It is what it is. I did like their quickstep – it showed a lot of personality and the chemistry between the two of them was great.
Kyle can go far in the competition, but he needs to focus on technique. Those pants on Lacey were gawd awful
Zack, put a sock in it, and Heidi, nothing you’re doing is scientifically valid either.
You’re taking a guess even with all your numbers because you don’t have a clue as to the votes coming into abc.
So please, I’ll take my chances on a site that counts a couple of hundred thousand hits over your charts. It’s a fun parlour game, that’s all.
But I never CLAIM to be scientifically accurate, Andie – I clearly label my stuff as a guess based on only half the equation. They are making a GUESS based on a flawed half of the equation, not even taking into account the judges scores.
The difference is, you are stating things as FACT that just aren’t. If you want people to leave you to your little site, quit stating things as fact when they aren’t. It will get you an argument every single time – and soon people will just ignore you.
BTW, if you don’t want people to criticize you and your views, then quit posting them. Otherwise, you are subject to the same disagreements as everyone else – including Zack.
I dont mind getting criticized. Had it all my life…..If you put it out there you gotta take the heat. How it works….
When did this become the ABC board
. But I agree, if you can’t take, don’t dish it. Really, the only ones with the exact counts and “stats” of the results are the people at ABC and they won’t reveal anything, except who is going home and sometimes who is in the bottom. So everyone can come up with their own stats and guesses, but the only ones with the real results are the ones in at ABC
Excuse me Heidi, but I am not putting anything out there as FACT, it just so happens that site, which I don’t own or have anything to do with has been pretty darned accurate. Your prediction feel flat, it didn’t. You need not get stressed over it. You can have your fun with your charts, but I take your stuff with a grain of salt. You haven’t taken into considerations the trends that occur when you get hundreds of thousands of hits on a site. Oh, and btw, if someone insults me, like Zach does, he’s subject to push back, just like anybody else.
Oh yeah ans sorry for getting involved in this disagrement. I should not of. Heres to a new week of dancing everybody! And again sorry Heidi, Andie, and all the posters.
*sigh*
Andie, the site is ALWAYS going to be accurate the way YOU use it. Last time I went to the site at results show time, they had the result wrong and you said that it was the result when the voting closed that mattered – that was earlier in the day when they had the same answer as the results show. This time, at the time the “voting closed” they had Bristol – but you waited until results show time to claim they were correct. You can’t have it both ways – you are adjusting the time to look at the results show that it matches your desired outcome. That’s just cheap.
Stressed over MY prediction? You are the one stressed here – I almost never get it right and have no problem admitting that frequently. But you do a little revisionist history on that one too, don’t you.
And if you don’t tone down your hate a bit I’ll have to start editing your posts.
No, Steve, this ain’t the ABC boards.
There’s only so many times I can read the same nasty before I click a button.
Last word on the subject. I did not change anything to get to a desired outcome. You insist that it’s not accurate if it doesn’t close at the time the abc voting closes. I disagree. Last week the Situation was the final word at air time, and he went home. This week it started out as Bristol, but the Bristol fans went viral. Florky was the final word and she went home. to me, that’s simply reflective of the vote on ABC.
Zach, apology accepted. With thanks.
Andie, you choose to look at those results to when it suits you – that is manipulating the outcome. If you don’t like that I think it’s crap, and that I keep calling you on it, then you best not post a link anymore.
Re: P. Heidi’s response #76 – Amen to that!
Learntodance.com ” Which i tend not to believe but who knows ” is saying Rick, Jen, and Bristol are leading in votes with Kyle at the bottom. What do you guys make of this?