SPOILERS!!! DWTS 11, Week 6 – The Results
Another week another elimination. This is me wasting space so that the automatic tweet doesn’t give away the results. 
I think that’s enough.
So, it was a shocking elimination this week. Audrina and Tony leave the competition before MUCH lesser dancers. Sorry – I know that Bristol and Kyle have their fans, and that Audrina had some trouble connecting to the dance, but this is a ridiculous elimination.
I said last week that I thought Audrina was in trouble, and I hinted at it again this week, but I really thought her score was high enough over Kurt’s that she’d be safe. But apparently not. Let’s review. In order for Audrina to be sent packing, the following things happened:
What would cause Audrina to be the “shocking” elimination THIS week?
-Jennifer gets 14,500 more votes per 1 million votes cast, and;
-Rick AND Kyle EACH get 9,700 more votes per 1 million votes cast, and;
-Kurt gets 48,400 more votes per 1 million votes cast, and;
-Bristol gets 19,400 more votes per 1 million votes cast.
The shocking part is that Kurt actually managed it. The other margins are not shockingly huge. It also might not be that the others aren’t getting tons of votes, but that people just forgot about the beautiful girl. It happens all the time – the model types go home early. I thought Audrina was sweet, beautiful and very gracious. Very sad to see her go.
People – if you want your favorite to stay in the competition, VOTE. If you think that Bristol shouldn’t be there, VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE. That’s how this show works, afterall.
Geez. I’m so not in the mood for Cheesecake.
It sucks donkey to see her gone. She was a contender. I don’t think she would have won it, but yeah, a ridiculous elimination. I’m afraid the tea party has insinulated its way into skewing the vote.
Does anyone know the dances for next week? I hope that Jennifer gets a waltz.
Heidi, the whole rock and roll night was one big cheesecake!
Girl, I Know – but I was just not feeling it this week, really. Well, until Derek dorked out at the beginning of the show. Kind of amazes me that such a hot talented guy so willingly plays NERD.
Nerds are hot.
And I still want to have Bergeron’s babies.
Oh, and Jennifer already did Waltz, did she not?
Jennifer actually did the Viennese Waltz. She still has the Waltz to do.
On a happier note Apolo Ohno and Kristi Yamaguchi are returning along with Helio, Emmit, Drew, Mel B and Gilles
so that’s very cool. Excited to see how they are going to divide the teams, and will Apolo and Kristi be dancing or just coaching?
Heidi-Jennifer did the Viennese Waltz, she hasn’t done the regular, slow Waltz yet. Anyways, you guys have got LOTS of material for the cheesecake awards, from what you said in the power rankings I believe, just look at Derek and Maks’s asses, take a couple drinks, and voula!
Audrina being sent home is definitely absurd. She was a bit emotionless sometimes in her dances, but she could dance still nonetheless, and was better than Kurt, Kyle, Bristol, and probably Rick IMO. I like Kurt, but he didn’t do so hot last night, in either the marathon or his Paso, he should’ve left.
the dances that are missing:
brandy: chacha, waltz, a. tango, paso, fox
rick: chacha, quick, fox, paso, waltz
jen: chacha, quick, waltz, rumba, tango
kyle: v. waltz, jive, a. tango, samba, paso
bristol: v.waltz, waltz, a. tango, paso, samba,
kurt: chacha, waltz, a. tango, tango, samba.
audrina: v.waltz, jive, fox, tango, samba.
note: Kyle still have 3 latin dances, besides other couples have just 2.
I like the boy. think he will rock next dances.
And life is not going to get easier for Kurt, Kyle, and Bristol – they all have Argentine tango and samba left to deal with at some point. Rick may have just gotten a ticket to the final.
Oh that’s right, Lisa – that seems like eons ago.
I need a drink.
Hmmm, mmc. I don’t think it gets any easier for ANY of them.
mmc,
a.tango and samba are hard, but they are amazing when well-executed. can launch these couples to the top.
Touché, Heidi! ;-D Just meant that those seem like more difficult dances – the other 3 couples have gotten rid of 1 or both already. Although, heaven knows even the THOUGHT of ANY 2 dances in a week makes me sweat, much less actually having to do them.
Yea im totally outta the mood for Cheesecake……Ugh i hate this! And poor Tony! This guys cant catch a freakin break.
Apolo tweeted that he’s picked his team for next week. Hmmmmm
This season is wack! I really wanted Bristol to go. And these theme nights so cheesy.
Shucks, I was hoping that Jennifer/Derek or Bristol/Mark would leave. Can’t stand either of those two couples; both Mark and Derek are so annoying. Alas, it was not to be. LOL.
What’s the deal with Apolo and Kristi picking teams? Didn’t get a chance to actually watch the show tonite so am clueless … or at least more clueless than usual.
This has to be one of the most disappointing and undeserving eliminations ever in DWTS history!! I’m sad!! It should be Bristol going home! grrrr
Zach, so true about Tony. He can never catch a break. He had the perfect partner. I bet they are both so sad.
I am ok with the elimination simply because Tony’s attitude is a big turnoff. Yes Audrina could dance but she kept getting similar feedback each week about her performance. IMO tonight was anyone’s game.
I am glad Kurt and Bristol are still there. I hope they both improve next week. I’m excited for Kristi and Apolo. He must have a great agent btw because his book is getting released today. Pretty good timing:)
I’m a little worried about our six guest judges. Six judges, six couples, does that mean each returning fav judge one couple? Ideally, I would like to see the returning favs judge all of the contestants but have none of the scores count. Just to see if they would agree with the ‘real’ judges without doing any real damage to the competition.
Does anyone know how this whole judging thing will actually work next week?
I just got home and saw all of your notes of condolences and I just want to say Thank you to EVERYONE!!! Heidi, Vogue, Zach, Lisa, EVERYONE!!! Your support means everything and yeah, I am utterly PISSED! I am so sad right now, BUT I am satisfied to a degree because I am certain that I gave her my all as far as votes go(even with Brandy, which Heidi, I’ve gotta give it to you, you were ABSOLUTELY right about splitting votes). It marks the 3 year Anniversary of Sabrina’s elimination and now we have Audrina. Now, I think Sabrina was better than Audrina, but BOTH were Final 3 worthy. I’m in utter disbelief, but I’m happy that she was so gracious and I FEEL SOOOOOO BAD FOR TONY! Granted, I do think he should’ve stepped up in choreography and acting lessons for her, but it is what it is. I’m so sorry for them.
In Loving DWTS Memory of Audrina & Tony.
A premature Elimination indeed.
I was expecting that Kurt would be going home due to his low scores last night, but it would seem I underestimated the NFL voting contingent. If not him, then I expected Bristol to be going home.
I think Anna expected to be out this week too. Did you see her reaction when they announced Kurt and her safe? Either she’s an amazing actress, or that was utter surprise, and I’m going with the latter.
When they had the final 3 up there, I figured it might even be Kyle, but as soon as they announced him safe, I turned to my wife and said “I fear it will be Jennifer due to last night’s low scores, but I expect it will be Audrina.” That said, I agree with the judges (and many of you here too) that it definitely should have been someone else this week, and I’ve already said which 2 I think should be the next to go.
I really wanted the final to be Brandy, Jennifer, and Audrina. Ah well.
While Audrina was not the best dancer or the 2nd best, I had her in a solid 3rd place. The fact that stiff Bristol and Kurt are still there is kind of unfair. Like Len said we like to go for the underdog BUT this is a dance competition and we need to go for the goods. And Audrina had it. With Audrina gone this changes things. You basically have the 2 best ( Brandy and Maks and Jenn and Derrick) and then you have the rest. I am pretty sure Brandy and JEnnifer will be split in the group dancing. I wonder who will be on each team
I’m so sad. Audrina is really sweet, I like her packages very much, I like her interviews. I absolutely love that Tony praises her to no end about her hard work. The confessional!! So sad. I want her to stay. I guess the boring quality of her dances was just too much.
This season’s talent has been low, now it’s lost one of the better ones >.<
Anyone want to know how I feel, a commentary will go up eventually. But for now, this song and my background pretty much say it all:
http://www.youtube.com/user/2007Ballroom?feature=mhum
I’m sad for Audrina, she deserved to be in the finale with Brandy & Jennifer. I had expected Bristol to go home even though she did her best dance this week.
I don’t really get all the outrage. Audrina is very sweet and danced good but she is like a weaker version of Melissa Rycroft and nowhere near Sabrina in my opinion. I always dislike unemotional dancers so that makes me biased, but still! There were far greater injustices done on DWTS then this one. It’s that point in the competition where popularity and likability means everything. Paired with Audrina’s underwhelming performance and lack of a big fan base… She was my guess for the bottom 2 (I was wrong and it wasn’t Kyle leaving)
sasa, agree with you totally about Audrina.
I wonder if Kristi Y. will choose Bristol because of her loyalty to Mark. It would be pretty awkward if she didn’t, and you can’t discount Bristol’s fan base, although I guess that doesn’t count in the team dances, does it?
I have to agree with Sasa. The girl was very pretty, could move very nicely but she had ZERO spark on the dance floor. Part of this game is having a winning personality – that’s why Donny won, after all. Audrina was just… bland and vapid, personality wise when she put on her dancing shoes. Kyle has personality enough for 4 people and Bristol has been showing a spark and a sense of fun, along with improving her dancing, and Kurt and Rick have their sports fanbases and are really quite charming too, so… in the end, I think the right person went home. It’s an ENTERTAINMENT show. Even Len will tell you that. *g*
Evaine, you summed it up very nicely.
But, I’m not entertained by Kurt or Bristol.
Boo! The worst part about Audrina leaving is that eliminates the best competition for Jennifer/Derek. At this point, ANYBODY winning but them would make me happy.
Me niether Andie! Still shocked this morning and so disappointed.
Nathan, great link!
With Kurt I’m entertained by his openness and willingness to go for a character so different from himself. His facial expressions, the way he grabbed Anna’s neck, the cockiness he found in himself earns my appreciation because when you look at the guy you see that it can’t come easy for him. He seems like a very sweet and mellow guy. Plus, he has Anna for a partner (woot).
With Bristol I’m entertained by her honesty and bluntness. She has natural confidence in herself and doesn’t feel the need to put on a show which I find refreshing. Plus, when she (finally) gets the fun of something she has that “I don’t care, I’m just enjoying myself” spark.
I am disappointed in the results. Actually, with the final 2 standing there, I would have been disappointed either way.
I don’t have anything else to say!
Heidi, maybe pour a bottle of wine or something else over the cheesecake, maybe it’ll make it more palatable this week? I do understand what you’re feeling….
If what I understand about what I heard is correct, each remaining couple will get a song that one of the celebrity guest judges previously did.
I just don’t remember which were the 6 that was named. It might be interesting to list each guest judge, and the songs they used, and see if we can guess which song they’ll have redone.
Oh yeah, Emmit and Drew. Chances are HIGH that they’ll have Cheryl redo one of the songs she’s already choreographed, and that they’ll give Derek one of his sister’s dances. Most likely Hey, Pachuco.
SaSa and Evaine; I agree 110% with your take on this elimination. Audrina IS beautiful and a competent dancer but she’s not compelling in any way. What we have left, whether you like it or not, is the “what will they show us next” factor. Bristol came back with her best performance yet, what will next week bring? Kyle is always fun to watch, what will he show us next? Will Jennifer be able to get control of her enthusiasm and move back into the top stop, let’s see what happens next week? It’s all about bringing the viewers back to see what will happen with the various dancers each week at this point in this game and those that don’t rise to the occasion, are the ones who will be picked off as the next few crucial weeks pass. Beautiful, consistent and boring is not going to elicit votes and that is the reason people just didn’t step up to support Audrina & Tony. Just think of last season, we all couldn’t wait to see what Derek and Nicole would do next, that combined with her being a great dancer was the winning combination, the minute people are not compelled to “watch you” you stand the chance of going home. Sad but a true fact of DWTS. And I will go out on a limb and say that this could be what happens to Maks and Brandy, most of the people I talk to around here are very indifferent to Brandy or don’t care for her at all, I think she’s ok but I did find myself walking out on her quickstep half way through last week to go to the bathroom, which is weird if you consider she was the first dance of the night and I don’t usually do that with the first performance of the show but she’s not holding my attention in the least. Sorry…
Greg, the group dance split is usually determined by the top 2 scorers. Last season the top scorer got to pick either music or team member first. Nicole choose music (which I’m sure is Derek’s influence). This season, with Kristi and Apollo involved, who knows how it will go? I would guess that Apolo would choose Jennifer because he was tight with Derek/Julianne – but then Kristi is tight with both Mark AND Derek. It will be interesting to see. And what are they going to do besides pick teams?? Will they get a pro partner and actually dance?? Julianne is filming a music video in Nashville – I wonder if she would come back for the 200th show and dance with Apolo?? But what about Kristi then??
The Kristi/Apolo thing intrigues me, the guest judges thing just pisses me off in advance. Unless the guests AREN’T in a position of judging their former partners. Even still. Boo. I’m turning into a DWTS curmudgeon too.
I dunno, Meggie – Kristi was just tweeting Derek the other day because she saw his impersonation of her on Access Hollywood. She might be able to pick Jennifer because of that – or it would give her an excuse to, if you know what I mean. Of course, Apolo probably feels a connection to Derek too, thanks to Julianne.
So, was Brooke wearing the dress that should couldn’t wear on Monday, with a bit of lace added at the neckline?
LOL – Audrina was never competition for Jennifer. Audrina should have made final 3, but she would never beat either Brandy OR Jennifer in terms of fanbase.
Lori, I don’t think they’ll go that route. That would be totally unfair to give Cheryl a dance she choreographed. I think they’ll give her someone else’s entirely.
But really – these pros have been dancing each others choreography for years, so it’s not like it will be too difficult for them.
First time I’ve felt the urge to take the time to comment on DWTS… This season is absolutely crazy…Not only with the eliminations…but also with the show’s format… I miss seeing the straight on dance competitions with consistantly good music, none of this ridiculous theme night stuff, the dance floor staying the same, the pro dancers dancing on result night, none of this added fluff…result show has become a showcase for guest singers and their dancers and/or other performers, silly packages like the “commercials” …what??!?!…
Back to the eliminations, I hate this for Tony. He had a “celebrity” who knew NOTHING about dancing. Yes, I think Audrina worked very hard and put in all the effort she could but the cards were stacked against her and, well, Tony, from the beginning for many reasons… This is my continued critique of DWTS….STOP getting celebrities with ANY dancing in their background…I don’t care what kind it is… the playing field is NOT level… it’s like bringing in a soccer player and teaching her to become a basketball player…she’s got the basics of being an athelete down so the pros can build up…those celebrities who come in with nothing their pros have to start from scratch! I think Tony did the best he could. He worked VERY hard and I am SO sad for him. He’s a consumate professional unfortunately his “celebrity” didn’t have the fan base. Maybe DWTS needs to look a bit more into leveling it’s “popularity” field as well….these managers of these so-called “celebrities” get their clients on the shows….then the pros are dealing with not only teaching them but also having to play a popularity contest with the audience… like I said, this season continues down a crazy path… as a fan, I’d like to see DWTS go back to what made it a #1 show & stop trying to fluff up what didn’t need fluffing…. learn from the Coke flop of trying to revamp Coke….fans just wanted their plain ‘ole coke back….
Well isn’t this a Kick in Pants to any theories about Team Selection
Rick tweeted TEAM UNDERDOG it’s Rick and Cheryl, Kyle and Lacey and Bristol and Mark.
Given that we know the Teams now, I am thinking Team Underdog might be Paso Doble as R, B and Kyle have not done it yet and
Jen’s Team might be Cha Cha Cha as they haven’t done that dance either.
Well, that means…. Bear with me, typing and thinking doesn’t go well sometimes.
Rick/Cheryl, Kyle/Lacey, Bristol/Mark
VS
Jennifer/Derek, Brandy/Maks, Kurt/Anna
THAT MEANS that there are currently 2 pros who are undefeated in the team dances that they’ve competed, and they’re pitting them against each other. (Derek, Cheryl. Or am I mistaken? Was Cheryl on the team with Derek last season???)
But Day, Audrina wasn’t “beaten” by more skilled dancers with past experience. Quite the contrary actually. She was taken out by a kid with no previous experience at all, a retired NFL Quarterback, a Disney kid with a huge personality, a former NBA player, a pop star and an actress who danced in a movie 25 years ago who is 25 years OLDER than her. Dance experience plays no part in this problem – now, fanbase on the other hand does. Donny Osmond beat a woman who taught dance. Shawn Johnson beat a more skilled dancer largely due to fanbase. I would argue that the same thing happened to Jennie Garth – she was taken out by an Osmond who wasn’t nearly the dancer she was. IT HAPPENS. There is no way in hell that you can eliminate anyone with any dance experience at all – ridiculous. For Jennifer, it would be because she danced 25 years ago? Joanna took ballet up till age 11 – you gonna eliminate her? You do that and you eliminate nearly every female to compete on the show. Girls take dance lessons as kids – that’s what they do.
You wanna level the playing field in terms of fanbase?? Well, lots of people will stop watching the show then, because it will get canceled for lack of buzz. I understand your frustration – especially as a fan whose favorite got eliminated by an Osmond not once but TWICE. But that’s the way it goes. This season is actually the best they’ve managed to do in a while – I don’t think it’s a runaway in either experience OR fanbase. The problem is that Audrina was too quiet and unassuming – no drama, but no passion either. Not a fault on her part, and I don’t think anyone disliked her. It’s just that at this point in the competion people have picked who they’re voting for, for whatever reason – then throw in the crazy assed comments the judges make and it tends to fire up voters of certain dancers. Kurt, for instance.
Actually, I’m okay with Team Underdog. I think it might be hilarious to watch. I think that Jen’s team might get a backlash having the two top scorer’s on the same team. And it’s also making me curious, maybe the producers are dividing teams up based on fanbase size more than anything else.
While that team selection is certainly good for my favorite – I have to say “WTF???” Who in the hell does that?? Why do I smell a rat??
@Lori, Derek and Cheryl were always on the same team…Season 7 Paso Doble, Season 8 Team Tango Season 9 Cheryl’s guy went early due to injury (Delay) Season 10 Team Gaga
They’ve split them up this year for the first time.
@Heidi, I think they did it because Brandi is vulnerable. I don’t think she’s getting the support despite the scores
I used to think all the members of the winning team in a team dance were safe for the following week. But last season, Pam Anderson left after Team Gaga won the challenge.
Yes, Lori, but Derek’s been in all the team dances and Cheryl’s only been in two – on Derek’s team both times. Maks and Anna have never won one, and neither have Lacey or Mark, if I am remembering…no wait, Lacey was on Derek’s team for the very first (and to this day, best) one. I think Derek’s the only pro to be in all four of them and on the winning team each time.
This will probably be a choreography nightmare. Maks will want to take the lead, despite never having won one. Lacey and Mark will fight over taking the lead instead of listening to Cheryl. I believe that Anna versus Lacey was the problem either last season or the season before. I’m going to say that points-wise, Derek/Maks/Anna have the edge – not only because they have the better dancers, but because with two men on the team there won’t likely be the cat fighting. Sorry ladies, but as one of you I’m going to say that you don’t play as well with others of your gender as men do.
Andie, the only people backlashing will be the judges – and I think they stacked it this way for a reason. They don’t want to lose another good dancer. I don’t believe voters are going to vote MORE for Rick or Kyle because they’re on team underdog. Not at this late stage. Besides, Rick is rather disingenuous calling them “Team Underdog” – Kurt isn’t exactly the best dancer on the floor, after all.
YEA!!! Touche Heidi!! Yes, you are exactly right…. this is what I get for not ever “blogging” my thoughts down….it all comes tumbling out from the past seasons of built up frustrations… yes, Heidi you are right on all points… but I do think with the likes of Nicole and Mel B (who I LOVED & then caught hell from all my friends after I’d been so critical) … I don’t think the playing field was very fair in those instances… popularity, you’re right. I thought that too when I was typing that, but honestly wondered what the response would be. I REALLY appreciate your taking the time to respond to me…. I agree about Audrina…. not liking her in the beginning but loving Tony, I pulled for Tony & I feel really bad for Tony…. I wonder how many of us fans out there find ourselves in the situation of wanting our pro to win even when we don’t like the celebrity?? ( I know that’s backwards but honestly wondering) You’re right she didn’t have the pizzazz… I found myself hollering at the tv “SMILE, EMOTION, SOMETHING!” like I was watching my Auburn WarEagles play….
Now I’m going to have to figure out this team competition stuff…. I just don’t know why the show is steering in all these different directions… however, I will hold my opinion now until I go back & figure this one out… =)
Thanks again Heidi!
Thing is – I thought that THEY (or Kristi and Apolo) were supposed to pick the teams. This seems pretty blatantly like manipulation. I wonder if they will let us see how it went down.
You could be right, Andie – if Audrina was vulnerable, then Brandy certainly is. Two dances usually benefits those with already good scores.
Lacey was on Team Cha Cha first season,
not Team Paso, that was Derek, Cheryl and Kym.
Lacey has never been on the same team as Derek.
And, I don’t think they are going to fight at all. In fact, Lacey and Cheryl are probably the closest of friends on the entire show. Lacey always does the Fox-C wave, even when their standing there waiting for elimination last evening. Lacey and Cheryl have been tight ever since Steveo-and Gilles had the bromance going. These two are very loyal to each other, and Lacey and Mark are BFF’s so I don’t see the cat fight at all.
We may see the brooding Russian in leather pants try to show his machismo over Derek however.
Really looking forward to some Cheesecake. No pressure, but I need a laugh because there’s not much incentive to watch next week live. I AM trying to lose the crabbiness.
Apolo tweeted last night that he had his team. So he knows who he has. It must have been picked for him.
I would definitely think Derek has a little more pressure with two Russians in the room.
Actually Rick did tweet “great first practice” so I am assuming their time went well.
I found out that Team Underdog is KRISTI’S TEAM, and so obviously, the rest are APOLO’S TEAM.
So it looks like both Kristi and Apolo went for loyalty, Kristi chose her original partner for her team, along with Kyle who can PERFORM! and Rick, who can stand still and smile and get big scores from Carrie Ann. For that matter, both Rick and Kyle are CA’s crushes.
And Apolo went with her partners brother. Anna and Derek are very good at choreographing around the abilities of their partners. Both Brandy and Jennifer are strong performers and technicians, and Kyle has 2 male pros to help him.
I figured that Kristi had Team Underdog. She definitely has an affection for Mark. Apolo had tweeted early in the season to Derek about how he was rooting for him, so that’s not unexpected.
I don’t think Rick is disengenous at all. It is Team Underdog for sure, Kristi has NO top ten dances in the line up, Apolo has two, Kurt isn’t a great dancer, but his fanbase beat Audrina. That’s a lot of muscle.
Actually, I find at least some of the fake commercials rather funny. Glambo was hilarious. And a theme/gimmick or 2 – OK. But it seems like they’ve had 1 almost every single week this season. Decade week will probably still happen. And then there’s that whole improvisation thing they mentioned (where the couple doesn’t get their music until 20 minutes before they dance). Oy!
Nah, Derek will work with both of them fine. He’s very much a guy when it comes to conflict with other guys, to say the least. He and Maks are old partying buddies so they’ll be fine. I just hope that he has a lot of input.
I thought that Lacey had been on Derek’s team, but that’s true – so she’s never won either. As for Lacey and Cheryl – we’ll see about that. They may be friends, but Lacey argued with – was it Anna? over choreo for one of the team dances she was on, not to mention her choreography was responsible for that horrible all female opening pro dance a season or two ago – was that only last season? I can’t keep track. I think it was S9. I just hope that Cheryl takes the lead – her choreography is much preferable to the other two on that team and she’s knows what to do to win. Not that I want her to, in this instance.
Not sure what having no top 10 dances has to do with whether they are underdogs or not – people aren’t voting for Kristi and Apolo after all. But look at the other pros – Derek had two dances in the top 10 and cheryl had two dances in the top 10. Maks had one, Mark had one. Lacey had none, and Anna had none. Both teams have a “poor” dancer – Kurt on one team, Bristol OR Kyle on the other. Thing is, Bristol actually did better than Jennifer this past week and Kyle can fake it better than Kurt. I’m starting to think this isn’t as uneven as I thought.
Lori, I think you meant Kurt has two male pros to help him – and that’s a good point. Derek did very well with Ty, and he seemed to work well with Chad as well.
Oh man, mmc, you just succeeded in getting me pissed off again.
I had forgotten they were doing that dumb assed music thing. Shit.
Anna tweeted that she was tired but very happy after their team rehearsal.
I read this site all the time, but this is the first time I’ve posted here-and I have to say the reasoning doesn’t have to do a lot with DWTS-I saw DAY talk about Auburn and I had to give her/him a huge WAR EAGLE as I’m in the lovliest village on the plains myself
I do have to say though, I love you guys. I look forward to reading this blog every week, and that’s saying something for me b/c I’m probably the anti-Derek fan, and this site is very Derek heavy. But, I also believe in to each his own
I think Kyle and Bristol are on the same team because the judges want to get rid of both of them fast. No sense pitting one against the other cuz one will still remain. With both of them on the same team, the scores will be even lower. Sneaky!
Of course it’s naive to think that when Apolo comes on the screen people aren’t going to swoon and not vote for his team. That’s how Shawn Johnson got a boost going into the finale, people saw Apolo, liked what he had to say about the Olympic spirit and all that whatever, and that helped tip the scales. It’s no different here.
For Kristi NOT to have one dance in the top 10 is a definite eye opener, her being one of the greatest female dancers they’ve had on the show. That means the fanbase just isn’t there like it used to be, and that maybe because Mark hasn’t done a lot to massage it over the last few seasons. That lack of support will affect the overall team.
Season 9 was a hot mess, Dmity/Mya was supposed to be team captain, but he couldn’t control the team. It was Lacey and Karina, not Anna who argued.
Anna was the last minute replacement for Lacey.
I’m just curious as to how Maks is going to take direction from Derek. It hasn’t happened in a pressure situation like this, or more importantly, Brandy has top score, and will Maks feel compelled to throw in more than his two cents because he’s top dog right now?
Well, if it makes you feel any better Heidi, it appears that the producers did NOT pick the teams. You probably saw this already, but Kristi tweeted “I picked my team for dwts.” No obvious rats to smell there…
The tension/argument was 2 seasons ago. (season 9) It wasn’t between Lacey and Anna, but Lacey and Karina. They were butting heads on choreography and so it was basically an argument between what looked like Lacey, Karina, and Dmitry. Anna had replaced Lacey that week because she was sick with the flu so there was no way she could’ve really argued with her.
Guess my theory just went out the window!!
There you go talking like something is a known fact again, Andie. I think it’s very naive to think that Shawn, coming off the Olympics, didn’t have a kick ass fanbase all her own. I called her for the win LONG before Apolo showed up on the screen as did many other people. One appearance by Apolo isn’t going to tip any scales.
The point is – Lacey argues about choreo, much to her detriment. We have yet to see Derek argue about choreo with another Pro. Derek doesn’t appear to work that way with his peers. As for Maks – I would be very surprised if Derek had any issue taking direction FROM Maks – and that is part of my problem. I think Derek is the better choreographer but will give the floor over – but maybe he only does that with Mark. Then again, Maks was the choreographer on the last tour which was VERY Derek heavy in terms of lead dancing, whereas Maks reduced his own dances to a degree. They have actual experience working together successfully, which will benefit them. Maks treats Derek like a kid brother – and that was very evident in the last tour – and I got the impression that they both enjoyed that relationship. There was lots of playing and interaction between the two on the dance floor.
Thanks, Andie, I’m feeling better and better about this all the time. LOL.
As far as Team Dances go, while I expect Jen/Brandy/Kurt to take it easily, it may be close only if Team Underdog gets a more pleasing group dance to do.
It is FACT Heidi, Apolo goes on the finale precisely to boost the cause for Shawn. Go back and watch the tape of it. And you must be an Oracle if you can call Shawn Johnston winning when she won by less than 1% of the vote.
@ Aubie…. HAHAHAHA!! TOO FUNNY! My 1st posting ever was today and who would think I’d find a WAREAGLE fan on here….. sorry DWTS bloggers for a second but we’re having an AWESOME season!! And seeing that I’m in Bulldog territory…. I’m very pleased!! btw…I’m a “she” =) Seeing that this is your 1st writing just to comment to me, just goes to show how loyal we are to our teams…. which if you think about it runs right back into how loyal we are to who we’re pulling for on DWTS… and too funny you’d mention Derick as I must admit I agree with you Aubie…I’m not a Derick fan either & yes I also agree to each his own… I will say I do like Maks…. so Heidi… I have to chuckle every time you write about trying to focus on the dance and not on his butt…. all I have to say is “THANK GOD for replay!” That way I can go back and TRY to watch the dance til my eyes get it right!! =) CHEERS everyone!!
I remember season 8 very well. And the people who voted for an Olympic hero over a French guy came into play big time, and Apolo was a big part of that.
Random Thoughts…
On Audrina: Yes, a potential finalist was eliminated. No, I don’t think she would have won. The problem with Audrina was not her dancing, it was her acting (which is surprising given her vocation as a professional actor). Good dancing is partly technique and mostly performance. People respond to emotion and performance, not whoever the best technician is.
Every dance has a different character and each requires a high level of performance to pull off. When you’re strong on technique, but have a limited repertoire in terms of characterization and performance, you become limited as a dancer. She certainly did not have an issue with technique, it was the performance that she never quite got. While this week wasn’t as convincing of a performance, it was a noticeable improvement over her past performances. One can only wonder what another week or two could have done.
As for the judges acting shocked and surprised at the elimination, they have to partly blame themselves. I believe people at home don’t really remember the scores, but they do remember what the judges say and I think that sways votes. While the scores were very good, the criticism was very harsh (arguably too harsh).
it now makes sense why the show is putting Jennifer ‘in jeopardy’ She, the chosen one (as CAI put it,) is not getting enough votes to win. Kurt is running away with the viewers vote. That’s why they gave Audrina good scores after scolding her. Too bad though, we listen to what judges say more than to what they score couples. Their comments to Audrina hurt her and were unnecessary.
Welcome Aubie! I like your style.
Not everyone here is a huge Derek fan. I’m not anti-Derek but he would not be in my top 5 favorite pros. I admire his dancing technique and choreo skills but I often find myself missing the passion and emotional connection in his dancing. That’s why his best ever dances on the show (in my opinion of course) were those that don’t require a lot of emotional stuff- like futuristic paso and 50′s paso, where it was a good thing to be somewhat distant. And I find his personality sometimes a bit too politically correct. It makes me go: just say what you frickin think! It’s not some socially sensitive thing, it’s dancing. Okay, I’m nitpicking a bit but I wanted to support the not-huge-DH-fans crowd.
Ugh. Do I really have to Cheesecake this week? I’m still feeling so disheartened by the way things panned out – while Audrina wasn’t my favorite, and I didn’t think she was going to win anyway, I still didn’t think it was her time to go. However, echoing pretty much everyone’s sentiments here, she just wasn’t improving in terms of the character of each dance – and she was becoming a bit unmemorable because of it. Oh well – there was our shock elimination that we’ve been talking about for a few weeks now. Hopefully it will be pretty predictable from here on out.
I’m thinking the cheesecake this week is gonna be less “funny” and more “whiney” – because there were very few moments that made me laugh, but lots that made me roll my eyes. I’ll see what I can pull out…hopefully Heidi will already be tipsy when she’s writing hers and will have some great stuff, because I might be tapped out for the week
Well the Team Dance is officially a crock of shit.
A rep for DWTS announced backstage that next week’s competition will feature two teams, led by former DWTS champions. Contestants’ scores will be added together, and the team with the higher score will be free from elimination. Apolo Ohno will lead Jennifer Grey, Brandy and Kurt Warner. And Kristi Yamaguchi will work with Palin, Rick Fox and Kyle Massey.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20437183,00.html
Wow! That’s surprising and weird. Why would they do that? Is it confirmed?
It reminds of the Dance Off, that totally sucked ass in season 9. And they are doing it again, taking the viewer vote out of the equation.
Hi Sasa, and thanks!
Whoa. One team will be completely immune to elimination. What the hell are they trying to pull? That is NUTS
BTW Audrina/Tony were my faves, but now I’m in the Kurt/Anna camp. I know he’s far from the best left but I just adore Anna. She such a fiesty thing. She’s only a couple years older than me I think. I’d love to go out and party with her, I bet she’d be a blast.
@Day-yes Great Season! Hubby and I are die hard Tiger fans, and I’d love to discuss it with u. I don’t guess the pure dwts comments are the place though
they might kick us out. You can find me on twitter @rymacj
So the team dances/elimination is basically in the hands of the judges. Based on all this bias and manipulation going on with the judges, it is possible that they can score in their favor of who they want gone. Based on what the teams are, it looks like the “weaker” team is Kristi’s team with Bristol, Kyle, and Rick. However, if the judges wanted to get rid of Kurt (which, of course I would not be happy about), they could score Apolo’s team lower and stack the odds against Kurt, since Jennifer and Brandy are considered front runners. Then again, if one of the front runners go, it’ll be entirely on the judges faults for putting them in that situation.
Those are some interesting teams. I would have thought FOR SURE JEn and BRandy would be on opposite teams. Its gonna be interesting how Kurt factors in all this. I’m excited.
Any ideas what the individual dances and group dances will be ?
Well Aubie, there you go: Anna is also my favorite pro!
Then there’s Kym and Chelsie. And Cheryl is black’n'white for me- sometimes amazing, sometimes blah. I really enjoy her choreography when she’s at her best. I go back and forth on the guys, there’s no one that didn’t bug me at some point. If I had to say it, maybe Mark buged me the least up to now (I’m not counting in Jonathan, Dmitry and those guys who are not regulars). And I think Louis can belt out some amazing routines but also some tragic ones.
Andie- Wow! Thanks for sharing that article. I don’t even know what to think of the team dances except for why? It seems to be not taking in consideration of the voters. I thought it was interesting what Audrina said that she think Brandy would take it as she wants it so bad. I agree that is pretty noticeable that Brandy wants to win (which is okay), but I think that it might hurt her in the end as it has been a turn off.
I forgot about the dance-off. I think the british version sort of did a better job of the whole dance-off idea. I remember season 8 dance-off was a fail, since even with a higher score, it didn’t really save any couple from being eliminated. I think the dance-off became bad in British version, was when the judges kept saving Lisa Snowden, because she was in the bottom about 4 times and they kept saving her until the finals, when the voters finally had the say of who the winner should be.
Oh-oh… didn’t like this thing of save a team
Well, Guest, while I don’t think I agree with the reason for putting Jennifer in jeopardy (didn’t they have Rick Fox in jeopardy 2 or 3 weeks in a row – believe they did), I KNOW I don’t agree that Kurt is running away with the viewer votes. You’re leaving out part of the equation – it’s not just Kurt getting LOTS of votes, it’s Audrina not getting many at all. It wasn’t just Kurt that passed her in votes but EVERYONE left in the competition except for Brandy – I say except for Brandy because it’s possible for Brandy to get fewer votes than Audrina and still be safe. For that to happen – well, few were voting for her. Yeah, Kurt needed lots of votes, but if no one was voting for Audrina to begin with how hard is that to do?? If you have a million votes cast and you have a huge chunk going to the sentimental favorite (Jennifer), the crowd pleaser (Kyle), the tea party candidate (Bristol), the athletes (Kurt and Rick) and a nice chunk going to Brandy – well, that doesn’t leave much for the sweet, pretty, but unknown girl. I said at the start of the season that Audrina might not make it far because she has the same issue as models do a lot of the time – beautiful, dance okay, but no fanbase. Not one that votes anyway.
Why? Because the Teaparty and Evangelicals have taken over the voting blocks and the show wants to protect the top 2. The problem is regardless of which team loses, these voting blocks will now be consentrated.
So let’s say Team Underdog loses, you don’t need to vote for the winning team, they’re safe. But for sure Bristol’s voting block will re-double their efforts to get rid of Rick or Kyle.
If Team Apolo loses then for sure Kurt’s voting block will make sure they’ll knock out Brandy or Jennifer.
Andie, you really need to pull out your Webster’s dictionary and look up the word “fact”. The ONLY fact that is verifiable is that Apolo went on the show when Shawn was there. He went on the show to help Shawn, but you have no way of knowing if he actually did. For example – I want Derek to win his third mirrorball trophy – but wanting doesn’t make it so. Not for me and not for Apolo. Shawn Johnson was a star in one of the single most popular Olympic sports (women watch it and women vote for DWTS) – of course I called her before the show started because she was a star and Olympians tend to do well, as shown by Kristi and Apolo. She probably would have run away with the competition if Gilles – a complete unknown with NO fanbase prior to being on the show – hadn’t been a great dancer. YOU must be an oracle if you knew he would be beforehand. Attributing Shawn’s win to Apolo is just…well, piss poor logic. You are completely neglecting to address that Gilles ability as a dancer versus Shawn’s own fanbase is the a perfectly logical reason why the vote was so close.
And watch your tone and your tendency to spam. I’m getting the feeling that you are being deliberately argumentative and I’m rather tired of it. Go back to the ABC boards if you want to make statements of fact which aren’t fact and have them be unchallenged.
Heidi, go back and see the footage. Apolo clearly said the famous line “no Olympian who ever went to the final ever lost the trophy” to Shawn. He was pandering to the entire Olympic movement, and wanted to ensure that the American Olympic Hero was going to take it over the transplanted French guy. That’s not spam, that’s fact.
Hmmm….I wouldn’t put so much stock in the way People reports it. It doesn’t quite make sense. Like WHAT scores are added together? Are they going to individually score each member of the team and then add those numbers up to get a total? Because that would be new. If they add the individual dance numbers up, why even have a group dance at all?? I think there is a piece missing here.
Really, kind of a crock of shit, but they’re just being more blatant about doing what they’ve always done – they use the group dances and the double scores, etc. as a way of thinning the herd. Frankly, I’ve been watching the X-Factor in the UK and they always take the bottom 2, have a sing off, and then the judges decide who stays and who goes. I’m fine with that, because it eliminates some of the fanbase bullshit, but the public still determines the bottom 2.
Yo, War Eagles – I’m rooting for them too, actually. But lets not get too carried away with that here, okay?
As for judges bias and manipulation – that is nothing new at all, they’re just getting a bit more blatant about it.
Lisa, Courtney and I were discussing last night how Brandy seems almost desperate to win and how that might turn people off OR cause her to blow a dance. We’ve seen lots of people get stressed because they are perfectionists, but Brandy is the first person I remember who seems to need very badly to win, not just do well. I guess Donny gave the impression he wanted to win really bad, but I didn’t get the feeling it was a “need”. I dunno – not expressing what I think here very well.
Andie, I don’t understand the issue. Everybody is allowed to have favorites. If that person is famous that doesn’t change anything. For example, Shaq is supporting Rick Fox this season.
Jesus Christ Andie, buy yourself a dictionary. Just because Apolo says something doesn’t mean that’s WHY it happened – he’s not GOD mesmerizing the stupid masses. The FACT is that he said it, it’s NOT a FACT that that’s why Shawn won. Also, buy a clue – Apolo says that because it’s TRUE. Olympians did win if they made it to the final – his saying so didn’t make it so, IT ALREADY was so!! That’s why Shawn had an advantage over Gilles – it was a credit to Gilles dance ability that he managed to close what was likely a very large gap when the show started.
Hope you are right Heidi, because this “immunity” scheme sure doesn’t seem cool. With the dance-offs, at least viewer voting had already been factored in for ALL couples – the judges were only choosing between the bottom 2 like you said. This new thing would give a pass to 3 couples without viewer voting counting at all. That just doesn’t seem consistent with the show’s general premise.
Shawn won because of teenage fangirl supervoters and her superior freestyle. Does having Apolo show support hurt you? God no – he’s one of the most likable and popular people on the show, ever. But to say that he’s the largest contributing factor to her win is silly.
This is posted on Wikipedia: “Fan favorites from previous seasons will also be coming back to judge the couples, who will be re-creating their most memorable routines on the 200th episode.”
Did they say this on the results show or is this unsubstantiated crap (at least for the moment)?
Oh, the way it’s reported in People, mmc, I agree – I don’t like it too much either. But we don’t know what the actual rules are yet. Are they going to have each couple dance, score it. Then have each team dance and score it. Then what? The team with the highest combined team and individual scores can’t be eliminated? Or are they scoring each individual in the team separately and adding that together? There has to be more to it than what People stated.
There are any number of ways they could set it up – really the judges always have the power to make it more likely that one person goes home over another, it just doesn’t always work out the way they want.
I was not shocked at all to see Audrina gone last night, nor am I heartbroken. For me, I’d rather see slightly less technical prowess if they can deliver entertainment value – ie, Donnie over Mya. Obviously the best are the people that can do both, but when someone is missing that certain “something” on the dance floor, it makes for forgettable routines. She was nicer than I thought she was going to be, and she certainly is a decent dancer, but I can’t stand empty movement. Carrie Ann was totally spot on that she had no concept of purpose to her moves. It makes my eyeballs bleed. So when you have someone that week after week has the same issue, people stop supporting them – especially when others that are likable are in jeopardy.
Apolo is a god, god of the Sun and anything Olympic. And yes, he mesmorizes the masses. For example check this little post off another board:
OhnoJulesFan
I hope the judges are consistent and constructive. (I can dream, can’t I??) If they do anything that would cause Apolo’s team to lose, he has a lot of fans that would not appreciate it. If the team loses fair and square, we fans can deal with that, but not with obvious playing around with the scores. That’s unethical, but when did that ever stop them. If that happens, I hope that athletes’ fans would vote for the remaining athletes on DWTS so that one of them would win the MBT. I know – not fair to the other dancers. But if judges want to play, let us play too
In some fans eyes he can do no wrong. The sun rises and sets on Apolo. So yeah, he has an influence on the vote.
Oh, and Heidi, never once did I say that Apolo was the reason Shawn won. I said he has an influence and gave her a boost. It’s a powerful thing to remind everyone of the Olympics and how proud she made America. The French guy didn’t stand a chance, except he was a great dancer.
Andie, he influences his rabid fans, not the entire voting audience – and what they say is no more FACT than anything Apolo says. And your arguments are becoming increasingly ridiculous. Last comment on the subject. Next I start deleting. The horse is dead.
mmc, I’ve read that somewhere else as well, but I don’t remember where. Might have been the press release, might not have been.
Andie, but he did stand a chance! They said it was like a 1% difference between them. Which is amazing considering he was a nobody and she was a worshiped athlete. And I don’t buy Apolo’s huge overall influence on the vote, but you know what- even if that is the case, so be it. The guy still has a right to have a favorite. I’m sad Gilles didn’t win but I don’t think it was end of the world situation for him. He was already (rightly so) very happy.
Actually, Andie, saying that he gave her a boost and reminding everyone that she only won by 1% is essentially saying that he’s the reason she won. You’re just trying to take back your own implication now. If he isn’t the reason she won, then why are you continuing to beat this dead horse?
don’t worry, no more War Eagle talk Heidi. That’s why I told her to find me on twitter. But I couldn’t see that and not say hi
I love reading what all you guys have to say. I’m going to miss the show next week b/c I’ll be on a cruise, but maybe I can find some sort of internet on the ship to see what you guys are saying! (I know big problem right? DWTS or the caribbean)
Sasa, glad you love Anna so much too. She is full of awesome!
Heidi here – yeah, we’re not playing this game, whatever.
Hey, on another note, when do we get another who wore it best? I love those!
Okay, but have those other women who won had an almost anonymous competition like Shawn?
I’m over the shit people, move on.
P. Heidi, please don’t be a bully. Why can’t we discuss it if we want to? And I don’t think Whatever’s comment required deleting, but that’s just my opinion.
sasa, you can discuss what ever you like as long as you use a respectful tone and don’t have 4 comments to ME for every 1 that I make. That is spamming. As for how I moderate on this site, that is NOT open for debate. Period. I’ve told Andie more than once to watch her tone and I asked her to please not spam – she didn’t listen.
Fair enough.
someone is forgetting that the finale shawnXgilles was the closest votes ever… btw, i have no english to enter this discussion and don’t want to… hehehehe
just want show this article:
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/10/dancing-with-the-stars-champs-apolo-ohno-and-kristi-yamaguchi-pick-teams.html
it says that team dances will do a “batlle chacha”:
“Melanie Brown and Helio Castroneves will both join the judging panel as guests, and winners Apolo Ohno and Kristi Yamaguchi will lead two teams of remaining contestants in a cha-cha-cha battle royale. ”
this one is talking about something too:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5941060/dancing_with_the_stars_2010_season.html?cat=9
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Im guessing Bristol and Mark will be on Kristi’s team, just because Kristi and Mark were partners and it would be cool to see them working together! Im still depressed because Audrina woulda done great in the Team Dance!!! Kurt probably wont, As much as i like him, it was his time to go last night!! Its one thing to vote for the underdog! I totally do it too! But i give the high scorers votes too! I play basketball and i put so muck work into it and thats why im improving! If im at a game and get little to no playing time after and all my hard work!! IT SUCKS! And getting eliminated is like a 100 times worse! Like your getting told ” Hey, You worked your butt off and got high scores but we feel bad for the underdogs so were kicking you off ” Please give atleast some votes to the high scores! They’ve earned it.
wow…for being a first time poster today and just now catching up on all these other posts…. I must admit, I’m exhausted… Heidi, sorry bout the WarEagle will tweet Aubie whenever I figure out tweeting… on another note, Heidi, I hope tonight you can sit back with your favorite drink and watch many replays of Derick”s and Maks’ fine butts in action….sure to bring a smile across your face & forget this craziness for a bit… =) whatever your choose…hope you have a good night.
Carlos, why let it stop you? Discussions with a language barrier- just what we need. Stop making excuses! My first language is also not English.
(I’m just teasing you
)
cheryl said that she and rick will do the quick
http://twitter.com/#!/CherylBurke/statuses/28920279586
Well, if it’s true that both teams are dancing cha-cha-cha, that’s another thing in favor of Rick/Kyle/Bristol. Of the remaining 6, Kyle and Bristol are the only 2 that have done that dance already (albeit in the 1st week).
I agree with sasa!!!! I like your words Carlos!! You are doing just fine!! Keep it up!! ;~)
LOL
sasa, it’s sad but I can’t express myself properly in english… I’m brazilian… just can do my best in portuguese… ahahahahhahaha
thanks Day =]
I’m trying… =p
Oh, just for the record, my comments were not deleted. So thanks for that, Heidi.
Sexy Brazilian huh? Grumpy Croatian here.
just a southern Georgia girl here…..
So…let me see if I have this right. Apolo, Derek, and Maks on the same team? Oh my god, I can feel the testosterone already! Hot hot hot.
Cannot wait for Monday.
Love this thing that everybody around the world loves dance =]
Do you guys dance?
Here I dance “forró” – a tipical dance of my region, that will remind you the dwts samba or cuban salsa – and “gafieira” – that is the original brazilian ballroom samba – completely different from the DwtS and dance competition one. I dance these dances with friends at parties.
I also do dance salsa (mix of a lot of styles), bolero (not the dancesport one, but the based on latin american dance), tango – (the argentinian one, that we call just “Tango”), soltinho (a brazilian dance that is a mix of jive and chacha), zouk (that is a kind of romantic “lambada”)… I love dance. =]
(Is this becoming a chat or what? LOL sorry about that… just got excited =p )
Laurie, I know right??
That team should win just for all the male beauty involved. And there’s something for everyone!! Can you get 3 more different men?? Four, if you count Kurt. And my mom would definitely count Kurt. 
Carlos and sasa – you do better than a lot of American’s do when it comes to the English language.
mmc, I think that Rick/Kyle/Bristol need to have something in their favor, it may was well be the dance style. I will be very interested in how they score this team dance. Are they going to give it to Team Apolo unless one of the team makes it impossible?? Because if they don’t, it kinda defeats what seems to be the intent with the whole “can’t be eliminated” thing/manipulation. I also can’t really see the dance style being THAT much of an advantage, because they’re going to have to do it very well – the judges SHOULD start being a lot harder on Bristol and Kyle at this late date. If they aren’t harder on Kyle and Bristol for technique, the judges better shut the fuck up when either Brandy or Jennifer gets eliminated because of it. Idiots.
I’m sorry – this show is fucked up. Why can’t they just leave it alone and not tinker with it?? I honestly don’t know if I can find the funny for the Cheesecake awards. I guess I better get beer.
Oh yes! Kurt. More testosterone to add to the mix.
My husband better not be out of town on Monday.
Frankly, from that mix I would choose Makses body with Kurt’s head, scruff included. And I’m not anyone’s mom.
Carlos, I don’t dance (if you don’t count jumping around in front of the mirror) but all those things you mentioned sound like sooo much fun.
Yea last season Derek, Cheryl, and Damian were the pros on Team Gaga and Maks, Anna T, and Louis were on Them Madonna.
Sasa, and it is… (I’m shy guy, but you can see me dancing at my channel on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/caslusfilho check the mambo rehearsal. =p but, don’t be disapointed when you figure out that If I’m not the sexy guy you think… LOL)
I saw on Wikipedia that the couples will reproduce a routive from fan favourites stars. So, I was thinking… Rick will dance quickstep. Helio will judge somethig…
Will Rick dance “Hey Pachuco” and Helio score him?
Plus: So, will Kyle, for example, dance the Drew’s Thriller Paso and be scored by Lachey?
What you think? that’s makes any sense?
So are Mel B, Hellio, and Kelly giving out scores??? So how many judges will there be, like 6?! What the crap.
Carlos, you’re the guy with the black hat? That’s awesome.
I know nothing about how the teams were chosen or about the scoring/immunity thing. However, Heidi and others will be happy to hear that Derek is in charge of choreography for their team, I’ve seen no argument from Maks. And finally the thing I’ve been waiting for, both teams doing the same dance!
And they are not actually redoing anyone’s old routines – they’re using the songs and routines as inspiration, with their own choreography.
I’m glad if they aren’t actually recreating dances. Who wants/needs the pressure of trying to repeat something that was done extremely well the first time by someone else.
I didn’t see anyone mention it, but I have a bit of a feeling that it being the 200th show and all… maybe there WON’T be an elimination this week and then a double the week after? I might be wrong, but I do think they did that once before – sprung a surprise non-elimination on us. (Or I might be getting my reality shows mixed up. *LOL*)
And yeah, I know they’ve talked in People about one team being safe from elimination – but really, does that ring logical or fair? Not to me. So… I’m thinking…. *g*
I think both teams did the same dance last year, did they not?? Cha Cha on both – Team GaGa and Team Madonna. Before that it was Tango versus Paso and before that it was Paso versus Cha Cha. I remember being pissed off because BOTH times Len tried to claim that Derek’s team had it easier. Yep, he did in Paso versus Cha Cha, but in Tango versus Paso??? Not that I could see.
Evaine, I like the way you’re thinking.
I feel that everyone here is saying one thing possibly, there needs to be a more fair way for the show to judge, otherwise the truth is, people will stop watching it, regardless of if it is a reality show. If it is an unfair show, then people will watch it to see the costumes then change it to another show. It is too bad about last night but they need 1/3 judges, 1/3 talent (not judges, plain talent and 1/3 audience. That way the 1/3 talent can be people that are audience observers with no obvious excellence in the field. Just a thought.
I love that idea Deborah Helm! Thats totally fair, like one third is based on if they have good talent, and then this half judges half votes things stinks, since alot of the viewers just use ALL their votes on their fav if they bomb and bring them back when its their time to go, and the judges are smoking crack cocaine half the time. I like that idea
AMEN!! I AGREE Deborah!! That is exactly what I was trying to get at earlier but obviously couldn’t figure out the right words…. =) Seriously, I think that would help the “fairness issue” we all are trying to come to grips with….
I agree Heidi with your comment… f*#ked up… frustration overload here…. and then we have to wade through next week…does anyone else feel like it’s going to be a long long 2 weeks????
I just realized that while Kristi’s team might be the “underdogs,” she also has a team of people that have all done cha cha. While Apolo’s team, he has a team full of people that haven’t done cha cha. I wonder if they did that to balance things out?!? Hmm….
Oops, everyone, but Rick. Wonder if she’ll have the upper hand now, since Rick would be the only one on that team has to learn 2 new dances. Everyone on Apolo’s team has to learn 2 new dances, although I thought I’ve seen brandy rehearse the cha cha before with Maks, but just not done it yet.
Day, I agree. Right now next week is sounding like a real mess. I don’t understand how they are going to do everything and I don’t like the added judges complicating things further. Isn’t having 6 judges a little MUCH??
And whats this whole Skating with The Stars thing?!?! What a crappy idea!!! Life is just one supersized brain fart for some of the ABC procudcers.
Ooooooh how i miss the first two weeks of this show!!!! Back when we had crazy Brady’s roaming the ballroom and her partner who still hasnt recovered from dancing with Cloris Leachman! AWESOME Cha Chas to My first kiss!, THE HOFF, Micheal Bolton in a dog houde, And OH YEA! BACK WHEN WE VOTED OFF THE BAD DANCERS AND NOT AUDRINA AND TONY!!!! Good ole days!
Voguerista, ditto….. I just don’t understand why DWTS feels it necessary to “switch it up” as the saying goes “if it ain’t broke…then don’t change it” I stick with what I said earlier…. I want my DWTS focus back to where it was in the earlier days…. ya know, once upon a time, McDonalds thought “Hey let’s change things up… let’s add a McRib Sandwich to our menu….” It’s not there anymore…. fans can stop watching…. but I certainly hope it doesn’t come to that. I’d miss me some Maks butt….opps sorry, I digress…..
I don’t see why they would need to change the elimination system – there’s always going to be ways for it to be “unfair” but in reality, it doesn’t matter. I guess because I don’t vote, I never complain about the outcome so I don’t ever feel cheated. What happens, happens – and as bad as I feel for people that are eliminated, I don’t feel TOO bad because it’s all for entertainment value.
@ Zach….. TOO funny and oh SO true!!!! wonder if we’ll be seeing Betty White anytime soon????? just wondering…..
LOL and +1 Zach and Day. I soo agree!!!
Fig, very true for how things were done for the Entertianment value. Even still, they made us MAD!!! *CRIES*!! They better shape this show up or else!!
Heidi – you’re absolutely right about both teams having Cha Cha last season. I guess I was still hung up on the previous seasons and being upset about how could they compare two different dances hehe. I’m worried about this “immunity” thing though, I don’t know anything about it yet.
I agree with Figamentation. I like that the show sometimes produces surprising results, it gives you something to ponder on. And you can try to make it more fair but you can never make it really fair because dancing is such a subjective thing. So why bother? I really like the way the show works.
And you people are complaining about the minor changes they do to the show (theme nights and such) with “why change it if it ain’t broke”, but are then suggesting a major change with this “making it more fair”. ?
@ sasa What I meant by my comment “if it ain’t broke then don’t change it” was directed only at the format of the show. I understand your comment. I think throughout this season (& through this blog) it’s becoming increasingly obvious that fans are getting frustrated on several levels. I agree with Figamention: yes this is entertainment…so it is crazy that we all get worked up over this when there are more important things going on in this world… but it’s because of those worldly issues I turn to “entertainment tv” Yes the voting fairness can be argued amongst us on and on but really is that going to change anything?? Yes I agree and like many of the above ideas & some I don’t… I just agree to disagree and move on… All I’m saying is I miss the days of just dancing. Call me sentimentally insane….. Peace.
Well, let me put it this way – the producers can do whatever they want, clearly. I can also turn the channel, as can others. I hope they are paying attention and limit to one stupid ass theme night next season, otherwise a whole bunch of people may start turning the channel and then the show goes off the air. The REASON why “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” is important is because they had very high ratings (high enough to beat American Idol last season) without 5 gimmick nights (they also cut the show to an hour in S9 as they reduced the couples) – sooooo….if you make lots of changes and have lots of theme nights AND keep the show 2 hours long with nothing but crap to fill time with, you are gambling with your existing audience. Period. Why do you do that? Because you’re bored???? People were watching this show for the DANCING and I wonder if they’ve lost sight of that little factoid. And I also know lots of people are watching this show for the pros – and we get how many pro dances these days?? By OUR pros??
THANK YOU Heidi!!! Amen! Amen!
Couldn’t of said it better…..
CHEERS!!
+1 Heidi Girl!!!!!
Here are the guest judges per Access Hollywood:
Helio Castroneves, Kelly Osbourne, Emmitt Smith, Drew Lachey, Mel B and Gilles Marini will all return to serve as guest judges, while Apolo Anton Ohno and Kristi Yamaguchi will also be back to serve as head team captains for a group dance round with the show’s current contenders.
Sure do hope that Cheryl is judged by Helio, Kelly or Mel B, otherwise…
Of course, I wonder if the guest judges will just be told what to score a couple as, or if they’ll all be wusses and give 10′s.
Ok, I see your point better now. Still, I see dancing as the most important thing, even on theme nights. I wouldn’t like it if every week was theme week but every now and then I don’t mind it at all. It makes for a different competition where you are able to better compare the couples since they are supposed to be projecting similar dance vibes. While we’re on the unfairness topic, I’ve always thought that couples who start with unpopular dances (like the Walz) on week 1 were at a disadvatage. On the other hand, I remember some people who started with the Walz and it was an advantage considering their ballet background. But, what can you do.. the show is not meant to be 100% fair. I agree with you on filler show content totally.
While I originally embraced the idea of guest judging – I was thinking of ONE guest judge who’s with us the entire season, not this hodge-podge. Also, let’s get rid of all this filler stuff – cut the damn show to 90 minutes when the cast gets whittled down. Yes, I enjoyed seeing the 10 favorite dances (Donny & Kym’s Tango was an odd inclusion, IMHO), but that segment should have been part of the results show. Not sure the producers even know that they’re doing – didn’t I read somewhere that they ripped out the new black “rock n roll” dance floor just minutes before the opening credits?
totally agree with Heidi – Let’s put the focus back on the dancing.
@ sasa… thank you for responding… I never want to be ugly to anyone on a blog or give the wrong impression… so I’m glad we could clear that up… and yes, I agree with you about the 1st dances too… it’s funny, I think all of us could come up with many things we’d like seen to “even out the scales” but as not only you but also many others have correctly said the show is for entertainment, not meant to be 100% fair & honestly there is no way to evenly balance things fairly….and not everyone at anytime will be 100% pleased…. I do love the show & am hanging in there…. all I can say is when I start doing work during the show…. some’in “ain’t” right… =) maybe I need to interject a few glasses of wine while I watch…..mmmmmmm
Oh sorry if it came out ugly, it wasn’t meant like that at all. It’s probably a combination of my liking open discussions and having a little bit of a language barrier. And about the wine- hell yea!
oh no I did it again… sorry, I meant that about me… not you. You weren’t ugly and I remember what you said earlier when we commented about Carlos… you write wonderful!! CHEERS to the wine!!!! =) I have a feeling we won’t be alone………
Wine really works, Day, believe you me.
As for the theme nights being “every one in a while” well…let’s see. We’ve had TV Themes, Rock Night, Accoustic in the round Night. Next week we have Guest Judges AND Former Winners as Team Captains for the Group dances. AND we will also be having that little theme/gimmick where they don’t get their music until 20 minutes before they dance. That is FIVE theme nights in ten weeks. Fifty percent. That’s about three too many. I’d like to see some good dancing, not dancing that gets fucked up because you’re seeing how much crap you can throw at the contestants. Isn’t it challenging enough with out all that??
oh wow…. now that you listed it all out Heidi… I’d like to just say: BOTTOMS UP!!!!!!!
I would say 1 too many because I don’t really count next week as theme night (anniversary, can’t blame them for wanting something special) and accoustic night sounded awesome beforehand, they just messed up the execution a little bit. But I think it was worth the experiment. I could have done without TV theme night.
Day, cheers in advance. Thanks for the compliment.
Wow, so many more comments since I last checked! I agree with everyone about the theme nights. I don’t like many of them. I did enjoy Rock Night though, except for the fact that it resulted in Audrina and Tony getting eliminated. I feel like she was just at her point where she would have started doing so much better, because she had gotten most of her intense dances out of the way, and I think she would have done SO MUCH better with the fun ones where she could smile. Oh well.
Heidi, totally agree about people watching for the pros. That’s a huge reason why I tune in. I love them all (well, most of them) so much. I will be a bit crankier now without Tony, but I still have Anna, Maks, and Cheryl
Day, don’t worry if you don’t tweet. One of the mods here can give you my e-mail address if you want. I give permission
Aubie (btw love that) I got it!!!!
@skibug28 tweet me!
sasa,
Yeah, i’m the guy with the black hat =] did you like the dance =]
Of course I liked it! It’s awesome. I’m jealous that you have so much fun dancing.
Don’t know much about the scoring for next week, but it sounds like the ex-star whose dance is being re-imagined will be the guest judge for that couple.
Just read this in an article -take it will a grain of salt, I guess, but if it’s true, maybe they will each give a score and then average their mark out of 10 to give a “fourth” mark as in “fourth” judge.
“Six former DWTS celebrities — Helio Castroneves, Kelly Osbourne, Mel B, Drew Lachey, Gilles Marini, and Emmitt Smith — will revisit the ballroom to act as a special “fourth judge” in the iconic dance competition.”
thanks sasa =]
Found this!
Team Kristi will dance to “Working Day and Night” song of her freestyle!
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/10/dancing-with-the-stars-rick-fox-teases-200th-episode-team-yamaguchis-dance.html
“Our team is Kristi Yamaguchi’s team,” Rick tells us, “and we’ll be performing the cha cha to her freestyle with Mark Ballas, the Michael Jackson performance…”
May I dream of an Apolo team samba with “I like to move it move it”? =p or a team “Push it” chacha?
=D
Carlos, you might be able to dream of an Apolo team cha-cha to his freestyle song. He just tweeted “My team is looking good!! Go Brandy, Jennifer, Kurt! Just bust a move!!! Get it! Let’s go!!! “
I missed it, mmc! thanks =]
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