DWTS Season 11 – The Myth of Bristol
Okay, I threatened to do this a while ago and now I’m doing it. I’m putting my fingers to the key board to answer the question – how did Bristol last as long as she did? Was it really a Tea Party, or just dumb luck and silly judges?
This post isn’t really even about Bristol herself – it’s about the judges scores versus the voting. People always claim that the judges scores mean nothing. Well, bull, they’re worth 50% – it’s the judges who decide whether they mean very little or if they mean A LOT. The way the judges scored most of this season, they were irrelevant. When push came to shove, in the finale, they got their act together. I argue that it should happen sooner – like Week 7 or so.
Okay, with that out of the way, let’s get back to business with a recap:
Week 1 – The Departure of The Hoff
I consider this the first, and one of the bigger, shocks of the season. But maybe German’s didn’t realize they can indeed vote on DWTS, if they are properly educated on how to do so. :-) Anyway, the bottom scorers this week were:
- The Hoff, 15
- The Sitch, 15
- Margaret, 15
- Michael, 16
- Florence, 18
- Bristol, 18
So, that one really shouldn’t have been a shock, as he was one of the low scorers. No surprise that Bristol stayed, much surprise that Margaret stayed. 
Bristol had a whole lot of people with lower scores (and less infamy) than her.
Week 2 – Dog Houses are very, very bad.
Michael Bolton and Chelsie Hightower exit the competition after a thorough humiliation. One that was hard to watch indeed. The bottom scorers were:
- Michael, 12
- Margaret, 18
- The Situation, 18
- Florence, 19
See, the judges were already giving Bristol 22 at this point for dancing that wasn’t that good. You expect me to believe that Bristol was only 2 points behind Jennifer Grey, who did a seriously kick ass jive?? Sorry, but nope. In any case, Bristol was never in any danger thanks to overscoring AND people who were worse than her. Anyway, Michael was no great shock really, now that I think about it. A 12 is very hard to overcome when the next lowest was an 18. He had to get 27,000 more votes per million votes cast in order to stick around.
Week 3 – Rainbows are bad too??
Nah, not really. Louis was saying on Twitter that Margaret going the gay pride route was what did her in, but what I really think happened was that after that first dance no one took her seriously. She lasted as long as she did because The Hoff and The Bolton were so much worse. I don’t think gay pride had anything to do with it – but maybe I’m naïve. The bottom scorers were:
- Margaret, 18
- Bristol, 19
- Florence, 20
- The Sitch, 20
Now we see Bristol hit the bottom 2 in scores – but Margaret is the low scorer, here. No great stretch. Marge needed 4,500 votes to catch Bristol (chump change) and there is no way that was happening. No shocks here.
Week 4 – Here’s the Situation as I see it
Poor Situation, and by extension, poor Courtney. He did well making it to the fourth week though, I have to say. The bottom scorers this week were:
- Situation, 28
- Bristol, 32
- Florence, 34
- Kurt, 35
Again, we see Bristol insulated by a 4 point cushion – not a huge number, but she’s not the low scorer and Sitch was a worse dancer. For the Situation to stay, he had to get 11,200 more votes than Bristol per 1 million votes cast. Say thank you to your judges, because they are charting the course of Season 11 history here. That 4 points isn’t huge – but it still counts. No great shock that Bristol stuck around when put up against a relative unknown (to DWTS audience) guy who is 4 points behind her. And him being the worse dancer helped.
Week 5 – Serious Monkey Business
This is the week where the wheels fell off, IMO. I dare say that Michael Bolton was more than a little irate to see Bristol wear a Monkey suit and still get an 18. I dare say that any pro who’s gotten scolded pretty harshly from Len for use of a prop (Maks, Derek, Dmitry…) was more than a little irate at the end of this night as well. Remember when Nicole and Derek did a FANTASTIC quickstep that broke a ton of rules? Len gave them a 6. Then Len turns around this season and gives Bristol a 6 after forgetting most of her steps and wearing a Monkey suit. And you still wanna know why Bristol is still around at this point? Hint: it ain’t the Tea Party – unless of course Len whipped out his silver tea set on the commercial break. Check out this weeks scores:
- Bristol, 18
- Kyle, 20
- Florence, 21
- Audrina, 23
Kyle the Popular is only TWO points ahead of a girl who danced in a monkey suit. TWO. And Audrina, who dances better on her worst day than Bristol does on her best, is only 5 points ahead of girl in monkey suit. Florence is only three points ahead of Bristol – and three points ain’t nothing particularly when 8 or 7 people are getting votes. The voting is spread out over more people than it is in later weeks. Florence ultimately goes home, which means that:
Kyle got 5,500 more votes per million votes cast than she did, AND;
Bristol got 16,500 more votes per million votes cast than she did.
That may seem like a lot for Bristol to achieve, but in reality it is only 1.65 percent – a tiny number. Here’s another way to look at it: this was the week where you got 8 votes per phone and 8 votes per email address. So say the average person uses one phone and one email – that means only about 1,000 more people needed to vote for Bristol than they did for Florence. Of course not everyone who watches votes…but everyone who votes doesn’t use ONLY two accounts. We’re dealing in what could be very small numbers, here.
Week 6 – The Real Shocker
Okay, THIS was a shocking elimination – but after you really think about it for a bit, you realize maybe not. Audrina is in the top two for judge’s scores and goes home. Because of Bristol? Hardly. There was a lot more at play here. These were the scores for the week:
- Kurt, 22
- Bristol, 28
- Jennifer, 29
- Rick and Kyle, 30
- Audrina, 32
- Brandy, 36
There are FIVE people with lower scores than Audrina going into the audience vote. Five. The spread between the low scorer and Audrina is TEN points. Now that is a nice big number. But is it shocking that Bristol stayed and Audrina when home? No – there is only 4 points between them, while Kurt is 10 points behind her. When the second highest scorer goes home when there are 7 dancers?? It means that person wasn’t getting votes, period, not that Kurt and Bristol had huge fanbases. It wasn’t just Bristol that beat her, after all. Kurt had to get nearly 5% more of the vote than her, or 48,500 more votes per million votes cast. Bristol only needed 1.93% – her highest margin of the season up until the finale. And of course, Jennifer, Rick and Kyle all had to make up a difference as well.
Audrina suffered from the model curse, IMO. Very beautiful but relatively unknown to the DWTS voters. Combine that with being paired with Tony and having a high score that week and you can kiss her goodbye. People continue to assume that if a dancer has a high score they are safe. Several of us on this blog had expressed concern about her longevity for these reasons. Put Audrina up against the movie icon, the fun Disney kid, the daughter of an infamous political figure, and two well liked (and well known) athletes? Then pair her with Tony instead of Derek and her odds get worse. Nothing against Tony, but, like it or not, Derek can make a model stick around longer – Joanna Krupa was far more unpopular than Audrina was popular. With all these conditions, Audrina was never destined to go higher.
Week 7 – The Athletes Split the Votes
That’s one of my theories anyway. People who are inclined to go the athlete route had two to choose from. Still think it’s Bristol’s fault? Nah. This is only the second time that Bristol has been the low scorer and it isn’t by that much:
- Bristol, 57
- Kyle, 59
- Rick/Kurt, 61
- Jennifer/Brandy, 64
There is a significant problem here. First, when you hand out that many points in a week (366) and still keep the margin at 7 points between the top and bottom you actually decrease the percentage the low scorer needs to stick around. If they did the typical 30 point possible and had a spread between the top scorer and the bottom scorer of 7 points, the bottom scorer would need more than 5% to beat the top scorer. In this week, with a total points awarded of 366, there was ONLY a spread of 1.91% between Bristol and Brandy/Jennifer. When you are talking less than a percent between the bottom FOUR scorers, of course it’s going to be anyone’s game. Did Rick’s fans assume he was safe because of that four point cushion? Who knows? Were Kyle and Bristol fans really, really worried?? Probably. If those two sets of fans are worried, how hard do they really have to work? Kyle’s fans had to get 0.55% more and Bristol’s fans had to get 1.01% more. Piece. Of. Cake. Odds are always good that the low scorers fans are going to vote like maniacs and it doesn’t take many maniacs to make up 1.01%.
Week 8 – Well, I think it was Close.
Seriously, Kurt versus Bristol with Bristol being the low scorer – but only by a point. We know what a point really means at this point, don’t we? Nothing. In this case, it was obviously going to be one of the two of them and I wager it was very close. Of course, I base that on what happened in the finale, so of course hind sight is 20-20. Here were the scores for Week 8:
- Bristol, 47
- Kurt, 48
- Kyle, 57
- Brandy/Jennifer, 58
Much better point spread this week between the top and the bottom – but still that 10 points only means that Bristol is 3.77 percent behind Brandy/Jennifer. That’s a small number and it’s again the result of a higher number of points awarded. So, if there is only 3.77 % between the top and bottom, it’s not hard to believe that there is only 0.38% between Bristol and Kurt – that’s no spread at all. I will say it again – Bristol didn’t need a miracle to stay over Kurt. Not at all. She only needed a couple dozen more fans than Kurt who were passionate about her staying. Maybe not even that many if they were power voting.
Week 9 – Tragedy
Well, I think it was a tragedy, anyway. Even though my favorite won, I would have liked to see a real competition. Brandy/Kyle/Jennifer would have been great. But the question is – did Bristol play spoiler? Hmmm…Maybe for the first time. But how much of it was Bristol and how much of it was Brandy herself? How much of it was the judges?? Again, the judges had a great deal of influence – look at the scores:
- Bristol, 53
- Brandy, 57
- Kyle, 58
- Jennifer, 60
Bristol only 4 points behind Brandy? Seriously?? People keep saying the judges scores mean nothing, but I think they’ve got it backwards – the judges scores mean everything, just not in a good way. By scoring Bristol relative only to herself, THEY give her more potential to stick around longer. Now, I understand doing that early on – but this was the 9th week and it was time to turn into a hard ass and they all FAILED. Sometimes I think the judges think they are being tough, like above, giving Bristol a 53. Problem is, they don’t really get how the scoring and the audience vote works out either – or it doesn’t appear so, anyway. Because that 4 points equals 1.75%. How many time have I said how little 4 points amounts to? It’s a pittance. When you have Kyle being a likeable teddy bear, Jennifer Grey being JENNIFER GREY and Bristol getting all the buzz (plus the Vote for the Worst crew), Brandy is going to need more than that 4 points – she wasn’t getting any attention that week. No attention = kiss of death.
Week 10 – The Finale Tells the Tale.
And Bristol takes 3rd. And in doing so we learn the limits of her voting fanbase. The final scores were:
- Bristol, 104
- Kyle, 110
- Jennifer, 118
Again, because so many points were awarded, the spread between them goes down even though the points difference seems greater. That six points between Kyle and Bristol only equates to 2.75%, which is not that much greater than the spread between her and Brandy. But it is clearly enough to knock Bristol out of the game. I think there were a few things at work here – the judges finally started scoring them relative to each other, or seriously ranking them. When they do that, it makes an impact. But that wasn’t all – people finally figured out that if they didn’t want Bristol to win, they had to vote like hell for someone else. The highest number of votes in the history of the show isn’t going to benefit Bristol, as much as the Tea Party would like to think otherwise – hey, DWTS mirrors real life!! 
At the end of the day, Bristol was eliminated because she couldn’t get past the 2.75% between her and Kyle. That was the largest spread she ever had to overcome over the entire 10 weeks of the competition. Here’s a summation of where Bristol was each week – if she was the low scorer, I put the margin she had to overcome.
- Week 1 – Not in the bottom 4
- Week 2 – Not in the bottom 5
- Week 3 – Margaret was low scorer, Margaret went home
- Week 4 – Sitch was low scorer, Sitch went home
- Week 5 – 1.65%
- Week 6 – Kurt was low score by 6 points, Audrina went home
- Week 7 – 1.01%
- Week 8 – 0.38%
- Week 9 – 1.75%
- Week 10 – 2.75% – Bristol is eliminated first.
Now, do you still think that it’s surprising that Bristol lasted as long as she did?? I would hope not. I would also hope that people realize they have to vote for their favorite because the judges don’t put in enough of a spread between the dancers to amount to anything.
The moral of the story is – the judges scores mean everything, when they actually rank the contestants. But if they don’t?? You best vote.
I tried to explain to so many people that Bristol didn’t need this enormous fanbase to stick around. The judges way overscored her all season – and as I’ve stated before, this is not the first time they’ve done that. The judges often go soft with those that have no experience, are really young, or have some other kind of handicap. When they have gone harsh on a younger celeb, such as Aaron Carter, they saw that he took it quite badly. After that week the judges were especially kind to him, but he’d already shown how sensitive he was (and America didn’t like it). I actually REALLY liked Aaron and Karina and thought they had some fantastic dances.
Anyway, so the judges were really easy on Bristol so it made it all the more likely for her to stay. What is also interesting though is that she WAS getting votes, despite being one of the weakest dancers. I think part of that was the audience perception being manipulated by the judges saying her footwork was precise, big improvement, and other favorable comments – so they didn’t “see” what their eyes were telling them. But then there’s obviously the conservative vote. I don’t think it was even just tea-party people. I think this country has been rallying around conservative platforms at the strongest rate I’ve ever seen (since Obama took office). So yes, they were still a factor. Some people like to vote for who they feel had the least experience. Others like that she wasn’t a celeb (then why are you watching Dancing with the STARS is beyond me).
But a decent number of people (at least more than a couple) thought that there was a showmance going on with Bristol and Mark. Seriously, when Mark tweeted yesterday that he and Bristol had never been romantic there was some VENOM spewed his way. There’s dozens of people on the ABC boards dreaming of Prince Mark sweeping the single mom Bristol off her feet. I think they were totally looking into things that weren’t there – especially considering how touchy feely and exuberant Mark always is with his partners. But they seemed to think that Bristol had won his heart and voted like they were witnessing the great romance of the 21st century unfolding before their eyes. Even when Mark emphatically says they have nothing going on, they hope that it’s all a facade. Lordy.
Anyway, I don’t hate the girl. I dislike her mom’s politics a lot, but whatever – I can separate the two. But towards the end of the season she came across as very catty and self absorbed. Complaining that she didn’t get nine’s and ten’s. COME ON. The judges are partly to blame for that, but still. You gotta know that you just weren’t that good. I will say she improved a great deal from the first 10 weeks or whatever til the last couple of shows. Her final dance (instant cha-cha) was definitely her best.
Regardless of all the factors, it was definitely an interesting season in part because of the drama. I don’t mind it, but I don’t need it either. I am plenty happy with the relatively drama free seasons too. I would have loved this season no matter what because Kyle was so enjoyable to watch (and I get to watch Derek and company too).
@Fig – I actually really enjoyed Aaron & Karina as well, and thought they were the most underrated couple of season 9 – it’s just a shame that Aaron had that meltdown and turned off so many fans. Otherwise, I think he could have actually made it to the finale.
Bristol was indeed getting votes, although in retrospect I don’t think it was nearly the volume her supporters were claiming it was – seeing all of the numbers hammered out like this really does illustrate that, thanks to cockamamie scoring by the judges, she really didn’t need a deluge of votes in order to stick around (props to Heidi for really spelling it out
). Speaking of which, I can’t really decide where her voters were coming from…I know everyone seems to want to blame the Tea Party first and foremost, followed in close succession by the republican party, and while I do agree that staunch Palin supporters (who could actually be bothered to watch the show and vote) likely voted for her, I’m not so sure it’s fair to say that conservatives/republicans in general, or the shift in support of conservative platforms since Obama took office, are really to blame. I like to think that those who are genuinely concerned about politics would not waste their time & effort on a reality tv show, with the belief that it would somehow shift power in the favor of their party; and as I’ve said more than a few times before, just like all squares are not rectangles, not all republicans are Palin supporters. I myself am a republican and I am not a fan of Sarah or her politics. I think this may be more a case of the masses being swayed by the judges scores (“The judges gave that a 9, so it must be good! I’ll vote!”) or even more simply, that she was the underdog. I scolded my mother more than a few times for throwing votes Bristol’s way because she “felt sorry for her”. And I know I always use the ladies in my office as a sample demographic, but a lot of them felt like she could be “anyone’s daughter” and had a sort of empathy towards her. Bristol was this season’s everyman – the one that the common viewer was most likely to relate to.
And like Fig, I don’t hate Bristol – I actually defended her in the beginning, and thought she was halfway decent – compared to some of the other contestants. But when better dancers started going home, I definitely got frustrated with those voting for her – and with Bristol too, and I didn’t feel like she was making the effort necessary to validate her presence at that stage of the competition. Hell, I wanted to smack the judges too, for not scoring her relative to the other contestants instead of relative to her previous performances. The only time I got miffed at Bristol was towards then end, when she began to act a bit vengeful and entitled, complaining about not getting higher scores.
And while I did ultimately like season 11 more than I disliked it, I’m definitely glad it’s over – and I hope to god there are no more political figures on the horizon for season 12!
Ya know, I should clarify by what I meant by the conservative regime. I don’t actually mean the people that vote politically based on platforms/party. But rather there’s another whole subset of people that “affiliate” with the conservatives but aren’t actually knowledgeable about issues – but rather see in the conservative movement, whether correctly or incorrectly, themselves represented (the small town working class, usually religious person). I realize that’s pigeon holing and generalizing, but those are the people that I see that would find Bristol an appealing person to vote for – and in their own mind, asserting themselves with the American public. Many conservatives that I know that are very involved in politics could care less about DWTS.
So I guess that’s who I envisioned as many people rallying behind her. As well as the “underdog” voters, etc.
I always find it amusing too, that those are the people who seem to flock to the conservatives a lot of the time – because conservative politicians show nearly every day these days that they care far more about the wealthy and wall street than they do anyone in the middle class or below.
I know I’ve said it before, but don’t discount people who vote for their favorite pro. There are a lot of Mark fans out there – heck, I’m great friends with one. And she’ll vote for Mark no matter who he’s dancing with. When you realise that the numbers are really that close, this demographic (and yeah, I belong to it as well, I vote for Maks all the time, I’m just lucky that the last couple of seasons he’s had decent partners. *g*) is one that shouldn’t be overlooked when trying to make sense of the voting patterns.
Well Heidi that’s the great magic trick that Republicans have pulled on the people of the US. I believe that THEY(the public) believe that the politicians have their best interests at heart – but unfortunately many people fail to realize that a great deal of the Republican political agenda is based on wealth. I say Republican because there are plenty of conservatives that are that in the ideological sense – those that want less government, lower taxes, etc. Republicans and conservatives are not always one and the same.
I went off on Republicans, but I do realize that Democrats and liberals have their own mess of problems. Just not that relevant to this conversation!
Anyway, I don’t want to offend – some of my best friends are very involved in the conservative movement (hahaha that sounds like the “I’m not racist, I have black friends” argument – but it’s not, I swear!). I often respect the reasons they have for their beliefs – I just don’t agree with them. It’s funny, cause I know you are supposed to get more conservative as you get older but I’ve gone from being fairly middle ground to being a lot more liberal the older I’ve gotten.
But back to DWTS – I wouldn’t mind more political people. Heck, I can’t stand Tom DeLay but I thought he was pretty likable on the show. That being said, I would REALLY REALLY love for them to finally get a friggen baseball player on (would have to be retired because of the season though).
Did you vote for Maks when he was with Denise Richards? That would be a true test of your fandom
Actually, as awkward as she is, and as crazy as I believe her to be, her plasticity is almost – fascinating.
You know, Fig, there is a God. I didn’t realise that I could vote from Canada until near the end of that season when my friend begged me to cast a few votes online for Mark. (And we only found out this season that we could phone in votes – from um… here, actually. *LOL*) Last season with Erin and this one with Brandy have been the only seasons that I have voted religiously. So, I never had to face that conundrum. *g* But yeah, I’d have voted for Maks and rolled my eyes at myself the whole while. *LOL* Yes, call me shallow, but I love to watch that beautiful Ukrainian man.
And that’s what I mean. A lot of regular viewers, like myself, tune in because the pros are their ‘cast’ and the celebs are just the weekly guest stars. So don’t underestimate their voting power. *g*
Oh I know, Fig – I have conservative friends that tell me what they believe and I ask them how they can vote for a Republican, because that’s what republicans SAY they are for, but they constantly do the exact opposite. They are NOT working for the common man.
As for the Democrats – well, I can’t use the word I use to describe the current batch in polite company.
But at least they aren’t outright evil like I’m afraid some of the Repubs in office might be.
And you don’t want to know the rumor I heard for a cast member last night – I ranted at John for a good half hour after I heard it. I might not be able to watch the show if it comes true.
Courtney: “And while I did ultimately like season 11 more than I disliked it, I’m definitely glad it’s over – and I hope to god there are no more political figures on the horizon for season 12!”
You and me BOTH! I pray they give us a break from politics (and in all forms). I’d like to see them get back to what this show was about >>> “a dance contest”. IMO, the ratings will always be there. We don’t need all of the controversial junk!! I wish producers would see that.
And Heidi, I applaud your post. When you put the weekly scores in perspective like that, it’s easier to see the writing on the wall for what was going to happen all season long.
Anyway, I’m glad it’s over even though I found other ways to appreciate the show this year. One thing that happened too is that I found a greater respect for what Lacey can do. I didn’t think she was that good before. But, she really is.
Loving all of your post so far! Can’t wait to read more!
Evaine makes a very good point. Especially don’t underestimate Derek fans – they are passionate and they are many.
But Mark? I dunno, I would have thought that Shannen Doherty would have stayed longer than a week. Maybe they were over confident.
Heidi: “And you don’t want to know the rumor I heard for a cast member last night – I ranted at John for a good half hour after I heard it. I might not be able to watch the show if it comes true.”
I can’t wait to hear who this is. Just please don’t let it be Ann Coulter. lol
My son… 24 years old…. informed me at the time that NO ONE would ever vote for Shannen because of her reputation. And I think it’s too bad, because I believe she’d have gotten a lot out of the show if she’d stayed longer. Unfortunately, she just didn’t come over as very likeable even to people who were ready to give her a break. (Like me.) And I believe that Mark’s fans like to see him dance with someone young and close to his own age – why, I don’t know – I just think that’s what they prefer. I think they may have been annoyed that he was paired with an ‘older’ woman. (I will admit to having a real hard time believing Jen and Derek this season for that very reason.)
True, people do vote for their pros too. Mark DOES have a fanbase, although as I mentioned, I think this past season there were a lot of fans invested in their showmance.
I gotta say, Maks is a sexy beast. I usually hate men that just exude their ego and wear their sexuality on their sleeves (I’m a fan of the understated goofy Derek types). But Maks has an appeal that is beyond his looks and movement. He’s stupid and stubborn sometimes (not literally stupid, just acts like he ate an idiot sammich for breakfast) but he’s no dummy. I think he reminds me of a guy from the Ukraine that I knew – a star-crossed love interest that we never got to reconcile due to circumstance. Maybe that’s why I have such a soft spot for him, even when he’s pissing me off.
LOL Fig, I think Maks is a “sexy beast” too. Love the way you describe him.
I loves me some stupid and stubborn. *g* Sexy as all hell with a wide streak of mischief. Yep.. that’s the big guy.
I agree about Shannen. I actually like her (I know, I know – I think it’s because I’ve been rooting for her to succeed since I first saw the movie Heathers when I was a kid). But even to me she didn’t appear likable, at least not compared to others. However, I think it was probably a case of her just getting lost in the shuffle – although I really liked her second dance. I too think she would have benefited greatly from an extended run.
The belief factor could be a big thing for the younger guys and their fans. Maybe that’s why I liked Derek and Jennifer’s Teacher Samba the best of all their dances this season – it was creative and it played with a scenario that I could believe out of those two.
Oh gawd, that just made me think of that awful story of the homeless guy and Bristol that Mark came up with. WTF was he thinking!
I think former actors/actresses really seem to have a tough time on the show. Maybe it’s because it’s live, maybe they’ve been out of the limelight so long, I don’t know. But almost all of them appear nervous or awkward in front of the camera or being interviewed. Jennie Garth, Melissa Joan Hart, Debbie Mazr, Shannen, Shannon Elizabeth, Pamela Andersen, even Jennifer Grey seemed a little weird when she was being interviewed. She had Derek to save face though so she didn’t look terrible, but I can only imagine if she had someone less accustomed to maintaining control that she would have come off as less together.
Um, Vogue? It was Ann Coulter. I’m not even kidding. I’ve not investigated to see if it was remotely plausible.
HATE.
Speaking of Maks – here’s why he’s doing the Ukraine bachelor.
http://maksimchmerkovskiy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15122&sid=ac0a795fc0da9972a7ef36a92449bc2c
And Ann Coulter? Jesus Criminies. That’s not political. That’s disgusting.
OMG Heidi? REALLY?? I remember them asking her last year and she said no. I hope she says no again if they’ve asked her. I will truly gag. This would be worse than Bristol ever was. SERIOUSLY! lol
I think former actors/actresses have a tough time on the show because they have to be themselves. Most actors become actors because they don’t HAVE to be themselves, so to put themselves out there as the one doing this incredible new-to-them thing, well, it’s nerve-wracking.
Ann Coulter? UGH! (Although, putting her with Louis and seeing what kind of ‘statement’ dance they come up with could be a hoot and a half. *g*)
If Ann Coulter doesn’t get Louis I’m protesting.
Not really, but think of it! The personal growth – the journey – but then again, she wouldn’t be markatable if she wasn’t a hatemonger.
Also, good point about the “being themselves”. I always found acting to be so difficult for me because I hated pretending being anyone else but me – it just felt silly and insincere – like, why would I WANT to be anyone else?! So I guess for them it’s the exact opposite problem.
Ann Coulter? Ehhh i dont mind her but i dont know if she’d last that long. Funny how DWTS keeps going for the Republicans. Tom Delay, Bristol Palin, Now Ann Coulter. And I remember reading they tried to get Condalisa Rice last season too. Now that I would watch. Lol!
Great post Heidi, Ive been waiting for this! 
Louis and Ann Coulter! Now that does sound entertaining. LOLLLLL
Ann and Louis? Someone would be killed in their sleep before the pro pairings are even revealed. And it would be Louis…:)
…:) =
Exactly, the judges never scored the least talented dancer low enough. Then it was too late, especially afer week 9 when they realized it, or maybe that was their plan to have Bristol in the final. I’ve seen them get serious before and end a less talented dancer with scores earlier in the season. I was kind of waiting for it – never happened until the final.
For shame!
I dunno, Evaine, I think they always put Derek with older women for a reason and Mark with the young ones for a reason. Derek can pull it off whereas Mark? Not so much. Shannen wasn’t any older than Jennie or Shannon E or Lil’ Kim were when Derek danced with them. But I do think it’s possible that Mark’s fanbase skews younger where at Derek’s appears to have a wider range. I found Derek and Jennifer WAY more believable than I did Mark and Bristol – but then Mark often is too over the top to be believable to me.
I’m weird because I almost never find Maks even remotely attractive – but then I don’t find Mark attractive either. Occasionally I find Maks to be charming and amusing, but he never makes me drool. I always go for the Derek’s in a group of men – goofy and handsome and cute. I like FUNNY guys. Maks and Mark are both too serious at times. And I like smart too and I almost never get that vibe from poor Maks.
Except that I think Ann “spawn of Satan” Coulter is a foot taller than Louis.
But that would hilarious.
I think they keep going for Republicans because they want controversy – particularly since they only really go for republicans who’ve got more hate directed at them than anything. And they’re batting about 500 on them having criminal records too.
Heidi, you just like the little blond boys, admit it! *g*
For me, Derek didn’t pull it off this season with Jennifer. I never really felt the electricity and chemistry between them. I was always very aware that she was old enough to be his mother. And that’s not always been the case, believe me. There were times I even found his affectionate ways to be a little inappropriate – and geez, coming from ME, the most inappropriate person ever! – that’s rare. But, you know, they danced some good!
As they say, different strokes and all that. Derek may be goofy and cute (I’m weird, I don’t see the handsome.) but he’s so HARMLESS. *LOL* I like an edge to my men, I guess. I will admit to getting a huge kick out of watching Maks play the camera and the audience – he reminds me a lot of my favorite drummer – Lars Ulrich from Metallica. They’re both a pair of pot stirrers. *g* I wonder if it’s that neither of them are North American? Hmm… something to ponder.
And I get a kick out of both Mark and Derek quite often, but they’re my boy’s age, you know, so I tend to see them both in that light. (And I don’t find Mark any more over the top than Derek, to be honest. And I think the behavior that you deem over the top, I tend to put down to their youth and their Corky Ballas Training. Heee! Now THAT man can be over the top!)
I tend to like the goofy Derek types too, that’s why when I find Maks so likable it makes me wonder! Even my boyfriend thinks Maks is very likable as well. His view of people tends to be very similar to mine, so it’s not surprising I guess…but that we both would normally be turned off by someone like Maks yet he somehow charms us both (in different ways though, obviously heh).
As far as smarts, I actually think Maks is intelligent with a good vocabulary. Occasionally he shows a great deal of sense. Then he mucks it up and acts like an idiot. But I think in there lies a great Russian brain (Ukrainian, whatever!). Those men tend to be so passionate yet verbally dense – even in their non-native languages. Not always, just something I’ve noticed in quite a few of them.
I don’t normally like blond guys, but hey my boyfriend and Derek are both – so there’s always exceptions! Except I don’t think I could ever be ACTUALLY attracted to him because his name ruins it for me (best friend’s name and I’ve never been able to muster attraction to a guy with hat name, no matter how hot he is). Plus my daughter likes him. We already have to fight over Ewen McGregor, I don’t know if we could handle another! Besides, Derek is my favorite and that’s without me drooling over his amazing body.
As far as frantic, I think Mark is always way over the top. Derek did it a couple of times this year and I didn’t like it – never really noticed him do it before, but I could just be remembering it wrong. But this year there was a couple of occasions where I thought he was overdancing. He’s still the best choreographer
Oh and Corky, blargh. That guy gives me the heebie jeebies. Grody. I can appreciate his talent and ability to train great dancers, but I hate watching him on the dance floor. He’s the only pro I never want on there again, honestly.
But, but, but… who else will they pair with the crazy senior citizens???? *g*
Who in the world would be tall enough to dance with Ann Coulter?
ROTFL to “Spawn of Satan” Coulter!!! can’t stop laughing!!!!!
I never really thought about Jennifer and Derek’s age difference. If you think about it, it is a little weird, but it didn’t even phase me when they were dancing. I know some people have trouble taking Derek seriously in a Tango or Paso, and he does have a pretty clean cut look, but I’ve never had that problem. I’ve gotten chills from some of his dances, actually. Everyone has different tastes though!
Heidi, I don’t drool over Maks either. I think he’s very good looking, but he just doesn’t do much for me.
Ach, komm…. Of course ze germans are properly educated to vote on DWTS!!!! I do. I just didn’t vote for The Hoff – I liked The Hough better
))) Jennifer rocked it!
Oh boy…I feel like the odd (wo)man out here
I actually don’t salivate over any of the DWTS guys – I like Derek, but I wouldn’t say I fantasize about him in a sexual way; Maks has his moments of charm but I’m not really physically attracted to him; and Mark doesn’t do much for me either. My favorite male pro is Jonathan, but I think my affinity for him has more to do with my heterosexual woman crush on Anna 
But then again, it’s hard for me to really get riled up about other male dancers when my boyfriend is the only ballroom-dancing hunk I see 
Alright, I’m gonna be odd woman out again, but please bear with me as I play a bit of a devil’s advocate for Ann “Spawn of Satan” Coulter
While Ann’s politics and the way she goes about expressing them may be hard for some to swallow (including me at times), I actually had the pleasure (yes, pleasure) of seeing her speak in college, and she actually comes across as quite gracious and kind in person – she may spew venom to the masses on tv, radio, and in print, but she seems like a regular person when all’s said & done. She ended up talking about football with the people sitting at our table. And really – Ann’s actually kinda hot, for an outspoken right-wing political pundit. Very tall & willowy, with long blonde hair and a decent face of makeup – I think she would actually look quite good doing a waltz with Jonathan. IF she were to do DWTS – and that’s a HUGE IF – I really don’t think she’d use it as a platform for her political beliefs. Tom DeLay wasn’t using his precious time on camera to tout his conservative beliefs – he was just enjoying the ride. And honestly, aside from the occasional mention of Bristol’s “activisting”, I really didn’t think she was trying to promote any sort of agenda on the show – even when Sarah was on camera, she wasn’t blathering on about immigration or taxes…she was playing proud mama, and doing the occasional, feeble shimmy accompanied by an awkward “doo-doo-doo” noise. I guess my point is that the show is only as political as the viewers make it to be – and I think any political figure on the show would be an absolute FOOL to try and use it as a speakerbox for their views. That said – I really don’t see Ann doing the show, anyway. She comes across as a no-nonsense kinda gal, and I think she would actually scoff and kinda say “Thanks, but no thanks” if offered the chance.
If we’re gonna go the political pundit route in terms of casting, I would have absolutely no qualms with Anderson Cooper doing the show. He’s got a very dignified look, an easy manner, and he’d look DREAMY dancing with Anna
Plus he just went up about 1,000 cool points in my book for calling out the women on The View for being vicious old harpies earlier this week, lol 
LOL Courtney…I love Anderson Cooper too. He would be great. I’d totally go for that idea too.
Boy, Kelsey, I think the Paso and Tango are Derek’s two best dances – he certainly choreographs the most exciting ones.
Courtney, I can’t (and won’t) distinguish between Ann the TV personality and Ann the person – anyone who is that huge of a hate monger on television (giving a bad name to women AND republicans) doesn’t deserve any kind of respect or attention, IMO. I don’t care if she came on the show and was sweet as pie – she’s spent far too many years being evil and nasty and viscous on TV to get anything but hate in return from me. You reap what you sow. As for Tom Delay – he’s a criminal, but he was never the public nasty that Ann Coulter is. I disagreed tremendously with his politics and laughed when he was indicted because of the hypocrisy involved, but his face wasn’t on TV constantly being ugly, unlike Ann. She will always be ugly to me because she’s presented herself as such an ugly person on the inside. Tom and Bristol both played the DWTS game well. I don’t agree that Bristol didn’t make it political – I think she made it all about her mom and their “haters” there at the end. Tom and Bristol didn’t truly make it political and maybe Ann wouldn’t either – but that isn’t the point, really. I object to her very presence on this PLANET, let alone on DWTS, even if she were to never mention a single word about politics. I can’t divorce what I’ve seen of her in the past from my consciousness. Hell, I’d have a beer with Sarah Palin as long as she never gets to be president (frankly, none of the working moms I know are qualified to be president and I put her in this category) but I would leave the room immediately if Ann “spawn of satan” ever entered, for fear I might scratch her eyes out.
That said – I doubt she’ll be on the show too. But just imagine the fun I will have blogging if she is. LOL
Yay Kate!!! I know Czechs were voting too.
I’m going to add that Jonathan is actually closest to my “type” physically. I actually don’t fantasize about famous men. Is that weird? Or TMI? LOL
I think Mark is cute, and I used to have a thing for short guys – although i don’t any longer. I will say that I agree with the people on the ABC boards that he and Bristol did look cute together, as she has a pretty face and nice hair. He also looked cute with other people though too – and I guess that Joanna girl is more his type anyway.
I don’t mind them getting anyone on the show. I’m usually shocked at how likable people can be once you see them in the DWTS format. Even Sarah Palin, whose politics I cannot stand, seemed empathetic and kind of endearing as a mother figure. I went in with no preconceived notions of Bristol, and I walked away with some positives, some negatives, but overall still mostly indifferent.
Speaking of Audrina’s elimination:
1- She was victim of power voting. Jennifer had a crapppy dance that week and needed saving. Kurt was in last place and needed saving. Bristol had the votes. Kyle needed saving from Bristol.
2- She danced first. Not only that, she danced first after the show wasted 30 mins of primetime showing top – 10 dances. Not only that, but she danced the first Paso after all those Pasos on top-10
3- Judges were unfair to her. Len told her “You’re getting on my nerves” Why didn’t they ever said to Bristol something like that? The scores were OK so that confused voters.
4- She wasn’t the chosen one…Jennifer was. Do you think Jennifer would have gotten 30s in the Final if Audrina and Brandy were there? Jennifer wouldn’t have had a chance. That’s why both of them were eliminated in shocking elimination.
Bottom line – Bristol was used by TPTB to get the outcome they wanted. If judges had scored her like they should…the outcome would have been different,
So don’t blame Tony for Audrina’s elimination. Tony and Audrina were 2nd place on not their best dance. Everything else is outside Tony’s control.
Jennifer, I’m beginning to wonder if it’s possible for you to comment without sounding defensive and a tad bossy. Audrina didn’t get the votes – PERIOD. It wasn’t the result of some massive scheme by TPTB that Bristol stayed while Audrina left – Bristol just had the bigger voting fanbase. What would be their motivation to “use Bristol to get the outcome they wanted”? There isn’t one. And how do you know that the judges comments “confused voters”? Do you really think they went “Gee, the judges were mean to Audrina, but she got good scores. I am not sure whether I should vote or not!” Doesn’t seem plausible – if Audrina truly had a voting fanbase, there wouldn’t have been any question about them voting…they would have just done it, regardless of her scores. And why are you so sure that Jennifer “wouldn’t have had a chance” in a finale against Brandy & Audrina? It would have been a great finale, for sure, but without it actually happening – I don’t think anyone can say for sure who would have one. I still think Jennifer would have come out on top, just based on fanbase and skill. And while Tony may be quite good at what he does, he doesn’t have the fanbase that powerhouses like Derek, Maks, and Mark do…so any celeb paired with him is already going to be at a bit of a disadvantage, in that they can’t rely as heavily on their pro’s fans to carry them through week after week. I’m not even sure why I’m addressing that one – no one is “blaming” Tony for Audrina’s elimination. His fanbase (or lack thereof) was one of many factors that played into her elimination…none of which are some vast conspiracy to use Bristol to manipulate the results of the competition.
TPTB don’t manipulate votes, they manipulate views with and Judges’ comment and scores.
Why do you think Audrina and Brandy were the two shocking elimination this season?
Where did I even say “TPTB manipulate votes”? I didn’t. Read more carefully. I made a reference to them using Bristol to manipulate the results of the competition…which almost word-for-word
And I still think Audrina & Brandy were eliminated because they didn’t get the votes – their fans got complacent with their scores and did not vote in nearly the volume they should have. They just assumed they’d be safe and either didn’t vote or gave their votes to someone else that they thought was in danger. No big conspiracy. No manipulation by TPTB.
I don’t even see how you can say that Audrina’s ouster was shocking. Anyway who watches regularly and also has an idea about what’s going on with TV popular culture would KNOW that she was doomed to go earlier rather than later. Even without Bristol, she wouldn’t have made it to the finals – neither she nor Tony has the fanbase to have carried her that far. It doesn’t matter that she was a decent dancer (no, I didn’t find her particularly impressive in anything but her soldier waltz). She was not known nor liked enough by the general voting public.
“They just assumed they’d be safe and either didn’t vote or gave their votes to someone else that they thought was in danger. No big conspiracy. No manipulation by TPTB.”
That’s where TPTB manipulations take place. Although Bristol and Brandy scored the same, they placed Brandy high enough to make it seem she’ll be safe.
Evaine, I agree completely with everything you said – and I’m going to go a step further and say that the concept of the “shocker elimination” itself is becoming a DWTS cliche. It’s not like there was never a “shock” elimination prior to this season – I believe the precedent was set with Sabrina in season 5, and from then on fans became even more vigilant about voting for their favorites, not being thrown by high scores. And each season, there still seems to be one – at this point I don’t really feel too sorry for fans of a couple that get sent home before their time and then whine about it later (although I do feel sorry for the couples themselves), because we’ve definitely learned that history repeats itself and if they’re getting complacent and not putting in the votes, their favorites are doomed to get sent home. No big secret there.
And Jennifer, Bristol & Brandy did not score the same the week Brandy got sent home. Brandy scored 4 points higher, so even though the spread was small, that was still a small advantage Brandy had over Bristol. Her fans could have voted in huge numbers and kept her safe – but they didn’t. And really – manipulation, schmanipulation. As I said above, by now the voting population should be well aware that you still need to vote even if your favorite gets a good score. Yes, the judges and their wacky scoring didn’t help – but what incentive do TPTB have to manipulate the perceptions of viewers in that manner? The outrage of Bristol making it to the finale (and Brandy getting sent home in the semifinal) was a huge headache for them. To concoct a plot where the end result generates a lot of negative attention for the show is totally counterintuitive.
Jesus, Jennifer, do you work for Fox News because I’ve never seen anyone other than them misuse or spin data like this. LOL
Audrina did NOT get beaten by Bristol – period. She got beaten by EVERYONE because no one knew who the hell she was going into this show AND sometimes having a high score (and no voting fanbase) means that people assume you’re safe. There doesn’t have to be any kind of mystery involved here – she didn’t get the votes. Period.
As for Brandy, here’s a good rule of thumb – if no one is really talking about your dances when the show is over, you’re in trouble. Brandy just did not make an impact her last night on the show. Like it or not, everyone was talking about Bristol. That’s the way this show works – you have to wow people or have ardent fans. Brandy clearly didn’t have enough of either. If everyone around the show is talking about shocking eliminations and telling people to vote for their favorite, how does that not ALSO work in Brandy’s favor unless people just don’t like her as well as the like the other 3?? The answer is – it SHOULD benefit Brandy, unless she just has fewer fans. And we talked all season long here about how she (and Maks) were just rubbing people the wrong way. You read enough of that and you have to start considering that maybe Brandy was the problem as much or more than Bristol. Yes, Bristol was over scored a good portion of the time – but to claim some kind of ridiculous conspiracy by the judges and TPTB?? Well, the much simpler explanation is that the judges are just idiots and Brandy didn’t have enough fans to hold on to her 4 POINT LEAD.
Now that I think about it – Brandy had a 4 point lead and if the judges REALLY wanted Bristol in the final 3 so that Jennifer could win, they were playing an awfully dangerous game by making her the low scorer. You give them FAR too much credit for cunning. Look up Occam’s Razor in the dictionary. The easier explanation is that the judges are morons and Brandy didn’t have enough fans.
I don’t care what the math is, that girl beat out 9 other couples to make it to the finals. She had absolutely no prior dance experience. Never even danced at a school dance. She started out so shy with absolutely no confidence. By the time she got to the finals she was dancing in an effing cage. And she never got an ounce of credit for her transformation. And neither did her partner, Mark Ballas. He did an amazing job of turning her into a beautiful dancer. He’s an amazing dancer/choreographer. America fell in love with Bristol Palin, that’s why she made it to the finals. She’s sweet, genuine, real, and effing tough as nails, and you will not diminish her accomplishment. There are great things in this girls future. We have not heard the last of Bristol Palin.
LOL bellagrazi, LOL. Um, okay. Sure.
You do realize that strippers dance in cages too, right? America fell in love?? Or was it a hundred or so fans voting like maniacs whether she danced well or not. You may not want to look at the math (typical Tea Partier), but fact is, she didn’t need a huge fanbase to make it to 3rd place. That, my dear, is a fact. On the other hand, “beautiful dancer” applied to Bristol is highly subjective – and I say she ain’t.
Okay, while I don’t dislike Bristol, I certainly didn’t see anything special about her either. She seems like a decently pretty, very average girl, average personality, average IQ and below-average manners. I actually wanted to like her a lot more than I did, but towards the end she displayed a great deal of attitude and self-importance. She stayed in the competition because she had a decent voter fan base and was overscored for weeks – I won’t blame her for the overscoring, as that is what the judges tend to do with younger, more inexperienced contestants.
Bellagrazi, your bias is really showing, by the way. All you have to do is a quick google of your username and we can see that you are a HUGE Sarah Palin fan. Postings on all sorts of sites supporting Sarah Palin for presidency, you follow her (and almost only her) on twitter, etc. So don’t act like you are just some person that had no preconceived notions of who Bristol was and that she just “won” your heart. You wanted to like her, and you do – and that’s fine! You are certainly entitled to do so, and your reasons can be for whatever you wish. But you certainly have a bias and not one that many people share.
The math does speak for itself – Bristol couldn’t overcome a 2.75 % deficit in the finals. She never had to overcome a HUGE deficit at all. I’m not saying that people weren’t voting for her, but it wasn’t nearly as massive as some people like to think. I see a lot of people on the ABC boards say “22 million people loved Bristol”. No, they didn’t. That’s how many people watched the show. Not how many people voted for her (I realize that you personally haven’t made the claim, but I’m just adding that there are a lot of people with these illusions about what went on in season 11).
I will add that I didn’t care for Jennifer’s personality either, and I was also prepared to like her a lot more than I did. So it’s not an issue of politics (although i will be honest that I dislike Sarah Palins politics a great deal, I don’t hold that against her kids). Same with Brandy – she put me off a bit too, although I think both Jennifer and Brandy dance circles around Bristol.
I’ll prepare for the “hater” label, even though I am definitely not. I am just indifferent to her and I recognize the positives and negatives that I see in her. The only person on DWTS season 11 that I could be called a hater at would be Michael Bolton. That guy has always annoyed the crap out of me and he definitely didn’t improve that in my eyes while on the show.
I also wanted to add to the Ann Coulter dislike. If she’s on the show, that’s fine. But I also think she’s a very ugly person and I’m not sure anything could separate the image I have of her spewing hate and her “normal” self. I realize that it’s part of an act, but it’s done in such a disgusting way that she should be ashamed of herself. It’s not her politics, it’s her hideous way of promoting it and it honestly galls me that people listen to what she says without gagging. She and others like her are what helps keep this country as divisive as it is. Tom Delay, criminal, sure that sucks – and I didn’t agree with his politics. But at least he didn’t go around being the nastiest person I’ve ever seen. Bring on other conservative politicians or whatever and I will keep an open mind (I do have lots of conservative friends and I respect their viewpoints even if I don’t agree with them). But I don’t think any amount of humility, sweetness, or anything else would change my mind about Ann Coulter.
That’s Ann “spawn of satan” Coulter, to you , Fig.
“By the time she got to the finals she was dancing in an effing cage.”
You call that “dancing”? All she did was stand in it and rattle it a little?? What exactly did she do in it that anyone else (even the worst dancer in the world) couldn’t do?
Oh well, like Fig and Heidi too, I’ll be ready for the hater label even though I don’t hate her. I just think she was an awful dancer even though there was some improvement at the end. Even so, that didn’t justify a win or for her to have made it as far as she did when there were others who could really dance.
“Bring on other conservative politicians or whatever and I will keep an open mind (I do have lots of conservative friends and I respect their viewpoints even if I don’t agree with them). But I don’t think any amount of humility, sweetness, or anything else would change my mind about Ann Coulter.”
Same here!!!
Oh man, when I think of that last jive Bristol did – her “make up” one, where she barely lifted her feet off the floor lol “beautiful dancer”, I don’t think so. More competent than some like Michael Bolton, The Situation, and David Hasslehoff (although she had lots more time on the show and in training, so it’s hard to compare). Not as good as Kurt, Brandy, Rick or Audrina (although I will give Bristol credit that she looked more “connected” to the dance than Audrina did). And Kurt and Rick and Audrina all came into it with no experience as well, so you can’t say there was an advantage there. Heck, I think with a better partner Florence would have lasted longer because she was actually a respectable dancer for her age.
Another thing to consider is that Bristol’s choreography was usually extremely simple and basic compared to some of the other celebs. So she had good precision (when she didn’t forget her steps altogether) but the level of difficulty was pretty low. Again, I’m not “hating”. But it’s almost a knee-jerk reaction to respond to these people that overblow how good Bristol was. If people said “hey, I know Bristol wasn’t the best dancer but for me she was the most enjoyable because I liked….” whatever it is that you like about her, then great! I don’t think people are required to vote for the best dancer, or the one with the least experience or anything. People can vote for whomever they wish and they have that right. But to defend their voting of Bristol by saying she was a great dancer, blah! And the more people I see that voted for her that try to say it wasn’t at least a little political the more I see that they aren’t being totally honest about that. I do think her last instant ChaCha was pretty darn good, and I was happy that she ended her season on a good note. But the whole argument about her cage “dancing” was just ludicrous and for many people that I know (conservatives and liberals alike) it was a painful thing to watch.
I also think Mark was coasting for a while, not even trying at first. I say this as someone that likes Mark. But he was just a wreck out there for a while, overdancing, just looking absolutely disinterested. He even had music shows that he scheduled and subsequently had to cancel because HE was sure they’d be gone a lot sooner than they were. It wasn’t until the last couple of weeks that I thought he seemed into it again when he felt that they had a chance. Funny enough, Bristol improved then too. So while I do like Mark, I don’t think he was at all into this partnership at first – at least not from a professional standpoint (I can see that they were friends and all, I don’t think he faked that). But as an outside observer, although he says this was a very rewarding season because of how he felt she improved, I don’t think he should be lauded because he was totally checked out for a while. Part of that may be that he doesn’t even really want to do the show anymore (he wants to do his music way more) but he just wasn’t all that into it for a while.
Regardless of all this, the season is over and the most talented dancer won (I was rooting for Kyle though, but I’m happy for Derek). This isn’t the first time a less talented dancer made it to the finals and it probably won’t be the last – but thankfully it’s just a tv show, and one that for all its drama this season, still provides me with loads of entertainment, and really that’s what it’s supposed to do (and make ABC a buttload of money and help careers). No harm came in Bristol making the final – other than Brandy’s ego, but she’s probably more popular as the “should have” dancer than if she’d actually made it to the finals and lost to Derek and Jennifer (which is probably what would have happened).
I agree with bellagrazi, on some points. Not all though. Im so sick of all this political crap about DWTS! Gosh just keep politics OFF DWTS ” Except for Bill Clinton who hasnt done nut’n bad or good as far as politcis since he was president really but makes great cake, right Vogue?
“. I REALLY hope this site doesnt turn into Hannity and Colmes. I LOVE this site as a DWTS website though! Most Awesome DWTS site out there, no doubt. 
I agree, I think being eliminated has given Brandy a lot more attention than she would have gotten from being in the final, or even winning. I’d still be sad about missing out on the competition, but being apart of 9 out of 10 weeks isn’t bad.
Am I the only one who doesn’t think Bristol’s last cha cha was any improvement? I think it was the neck-to-toe fringe doing all the work in that routine.
Zach, I love Bill Clinton. Yes, he’d be an exception as well as Anderson Cooper as Courtney suggested. lol And Anderson isn’t just a poltical reporter. He reports on everything and he’s cute.
I agree with Vogue! (And Zach and Courtney too, obviously. *g*) Bill Clinton and Anderson Cooper would be quite the coup.
Anderson Cooper would be awesome too. And Hes funny .
Ann freakin’ Coulter? Oh, please say it ain’t so!
I’ll still watch the show – I’m that much of a fan! – but I hope that they find some pretty rhinestone encrusted duct tape for her mouth! I’m with you, Heidi – don’t much care what she’s like in real life … only shows her to be un-genuine, two-faced and ready to play any game to get what she wants.
Funny would be if she insisted on dancing with sexy Maks as the only way she would sign on – now that would be some kinda fireworks! (I don’t see TPTB pairing her with Maks on their own – their choice would likely be Johnathan. And I don’t really see her asking for Maks – her choice more than likely would be Derek)
“….but I hope that they find some pretty rhinestone encrusted duct tape for her mouth!”
(LOL!!!!!!)