DWTS 12 End-of-Season Award Winners – What Was the Biggest Controversy of the Season?
John: The “Winner Take All” Cha-Cha was messed up. Even I can see that and Chelsea was my favorite. Even if the producers of DWTS had it planned well before the season started, it was just really poor planning on their part. I hope we never see it again, but knowing them watch for some variation in a future season.
Heidi: Yeah, John, it was definitely messed up. Never before have they so blatantly changed the outcome of the show – in a way the viewers had NO CHANCE of over ruling or even competing with them. Stupid. But it is heartening to me that people other than myself were outraged at how they spoke to Ralph as well. That was uncalled for. However, while I think Mark was an ass much of the season, I don’t know if I would call it controversial as much as disappointing. He used to be such a sweet boy.
Some of write in comments on this one are interesting. A number of them mention Bruno and his inappropriate comments and/or behavior. Bruno’s definitely taken it too far. Everyone can tell he’s acting because he’s trying to be so over the top. Plus, the real horny sex addict Bruno is coming through and it’s not pretty. If you’ve ever seen the show live, watch Bruno. You can see how much of an act his judging really is. He goes from this hyper, over the top judge when the cameras are rolling and the crowd is cheering, but behind the scenes he’s quite the opposite. To be honest, I wouldn’t mind a replacement judge for Bruno and even Carrie Ann.
Courtney: Yeah, the “winner take all” cha-cha was definitely this season’s Bristol controversy…hell, I would even go so far as to say it was an even bigger deal that Bristol, because rather than it being Bristol fans vs. Non-Bristol fans, it was pretty much all fans vs. the powers that be. I saw fans of ALL the remaining couples at the time outraged at how badly it manipulated the outcome of the show. And I firmly believe that Ralph could have made it to the finale (and maybe even won) had that dance not occured. But yeah, could it have been any more obvious from the judges’ comments that they reeeeeally didn’t want Ralph in the finale? Jeez-ass…at least try to cover your disdain with a thin veil of feigned sympathy. Mark gets the dunce cap this season – the same won that Maks wore last season, and look at him now! Sweet as pie
There’s hope for Mark yet! Kendra was starting to look like she could be this season’s Bristol, the way she was sticking around…then she actually got kinda good, and it was hard to hate her. Chris Brown managed to avoid assaulting anyone (or any furniture) and his performance was actually quite good, despite all the hullaballoo leading up to it; Wendy’s in love with Wendy…’nuff said. And the mysterious “other” category – yep, I agree with many of you that Bruno is out of control and should probably be registered as a sex offender; Donnie (Burns, not Wahlberg or Osmond) made a boo-boo when he gave Romeo the wrong score, but to me it was more of an isolated blunder than a controversy; I think Maks’ “sex on a stick” monologue was less of a controversy and more of a hilarious outtake
; and yeah, Brooke pretty much sucks at her job, but that ain’t really a controversy either…it’s just an unfortunate consequence we deal with
Interesting…looks like a few of you think ABC was “pimping” Kirstie…fair enough. I guess I could see how someone could question her dance ability, but the great thing about DWTS is that it’s a popularity contest – you don’t have to be the best dancer in order to win. Long story short: Bruno needs a constant cold shower, and the “winner take all” dance sucks.
Vogue: You guys said it. The “winner takes all Cha Cha” was the worst thing they’ve ever done. Do whatever you like, but, please don’t mess with the demographics of the show and take away our vote. Hey, our votes play a role in this show as much as the pros, celebrities, judges, hosts, make up team, etc….atelast I always thought so? Bruno took the cake this year too. I still like him and appreciate his presence. But, he needs disciplined. They should make it a rule to never go overboard demeaning a contestant. I’ll never forget that “diaper” comment and being outraged on it. Please producers if you read this, please don’t let either of these two incidents happen again. Find other ways to be controversial. I’ll take another Bristol Palin versus taking our votes away or Bruno overly demeaning contestants especially someone with a big of heart as Ralph Maccio.
Marianya: Am I part of the minority in that I actually can kind of understand why they had the “winner-take-all” ChaCha? I mean, Chelsea was a strong dancer, as was Sabrina Bryan and others, but let’s face it, without the ChaCha Chelsea would have been gone. Granted, the show could have done a better job in figuring out a way balance popular celebs with those that dance well, but there was a reason for it. However, Dancing with the Stars’ purpose is for the audience to choose which dancer they liked best… and one thing I noticed is that it ends up being the one that entertains as well as dances well, and that’s a balance. In having this “winner-take-all” dance TPTB are manipulating what should have been a fun show that the audience could invest themselves in rather than trying to alienate their audience.
As for most of the behavior from either the judges, or the celebs or the pro dances is more or less for the cameras, it just seems to be so over the top that it got tacky, campy or just outright annoying, it’s just becoming the norm… As for the verbal punching bag of Ralph, (almost) every season the judges have one verbal punching bag or another, and I guess Ralph just got the short end of the stick this time around. I don’t agree with it, I would much rather dip the judges in hot oil in an effort to cool their anger, but I’m too lazy to come up with that much oil.
Through all of that… as much as I deplore everything… get rid of the “Winner-take-all” dance of any kind, it shouldn’t exist. If they want to do something to keep better dancers in, then do something where the last four couples are on the floor and they have to dance through a handful of dances picked out of a hat, thirty seconds to a minute each, just like how dancers do in ballroom competitions. This way the celebs could actually prove that they’ve learned the basics and could dance through them AND we could compare the celebs side by side.









I think for me, the top 2 results for this one, the WTA Cha Cha and the judges treatment of Ralph seem to go hand in hand, and the one makes the other worse…
And unfortunately, my brain isn’t processing well right now, so I can’t explain more, so I’m hopeful you’re just understanding what I’m thinking.
I don’t remember which one I voted for, but I do know that I can’t just pick one of them, I wanted to choose both.
I also think the WTA cha cha was much worse than the Bristol controversay of last season. I was/am by no means a Bristol fan, but at least she got to the finals the proper way (half fan votes/half judges). The blantant manipulation of the WTA dance totally disgusted me. As well as the the awful treatment of Ralph and Karina. I’ve never seen such manipulation or the judges being so rude/hard on one of the best dancing couples. I just don’t understand why they had it in for R&K. I’d love to see Bruno and CA replaced.
I think Ralph would’ve been in the finals had it not been for the WTA Cha Cha. And really what did Ralph do to deserve the treatment he received from the judges?
And I REALLY agree with Heidi about Bruno’s behavior. I know that a reality show sometimes equals a lot of staged incidents and fake drama, but there is nothing entertaining about his shouting and flailing. I really feel that Bruno, Carrie Ann and sometimes Len have become paradies or cracked out versions of their former selves.
I hated the winner take all cha cha. I seriously believe they added to prevent another Bristol controversy but it seriously back fired.
Mark’s behavior was horrible. Maybe it’s time for him to take a break from the show…maybe make a choice between music and dance.
Anyone else notice Carrie Ann seemed to lighten up on the lift rule. Bruno is always over the top and sure he could tone it down but the show wouldn’t be the same without him.
The judges took the power from the viewers in Season 9 when Louie Vito was eliminated so Ralph was not the first time TPTB have taken away the power of the people.
I would feel a lot more empathy for Ralph if he hadn’t left the show with a bad attitude. I don’t think he should have been in the finals but then I don’t think Kristie should have been either. I’m grateful Chelsea was kept on because she was the best dancer. I’m not sad she didn’t win though because Mark was unbearable last season. And I’m a Mark fan. Or used to be.
Forgot to say a few things:
Courtney, I also firmly blieve Ralph would have made the finals had it not been for the WTA dance. He was a great dancer, had a wonderful personalirty, great chemistry with Karina, and had a lot of fans.
I sO hope they never do the WTA dance again (or anything like it).
I also didn’t care for Mark’s atttitude this season. I’m hoping he’ll skip season 13, but I’m not holding my breath
Tell me why all the judges seem to agree that Hines was so good, all the right moves, twinkle toes when he was the exact opposite. It was evident he was counting his steps, most of the time he stood in place while Kym danced around him..sorry if I’m upsetting anyone, but he clearly did not have any rythym. Poor Ralph kept getting slammed by the judges…he was too slow, too frenzied, too wild, not sexy enough. The guy could dance and his numbers were so good and Len had such a pained look on his face almost every time. For the Romeo and Juliet number, there couldn’t have been anyone to touch the beauty of that dance and all Len could say was…”you’ve been in the wilderness, now you’re back” Sad the way they did Ralph
I personally think that the winner-take-all cha-cha was a blatent manipulation by the judges to get their favorites into the finals. If it wasn’t for that dance, Ralph Macchio would have made it to the finals. No matter what happened or what the judges said to him, Ralph remained a sweet and humble guy. All of his dances were fantastic, and he definitely had the ability, the skills, and the talent to make it to the finals, and it is a real shame that he didn’t
I would have though that Wendy’s behavior would have gotten more than 3%. She seemed glad to be voted off and really didn’t seem as dedicated as other contestants (ex. Ralph, Hines, Kirstie, Chelsea, Sugar Ray…….they all put 100% into the show she was looked like she was pulling a kate gosselin (for lack of a better phrase) and wasn’t dedicated or had competative drive whatsoever).
As for the winner takes all cha-cha, I agree 100%. Mark’s behavior was a bit of a shock this season….hopefully he goes back to normal and takes that chip off his shoulder. As for the judges underscoring Ralph every week after week one and being just plain mean to him for no reason…….Ralph should be happy to see that people are on his side and the judges (especially Carrie Ann) should be ashamed of how they treated him. Idk why but hse was always the toughest on him. Bruno was a close second though.
On a side note, I have a question: Is there any more news on that Shaq competing on season 13 speculation?
Freida, how did Ralph have a bad attitude?
Frieda – you must have watched a different show. There is no way the judges did anything close to similar as the WTA Cha Cha during Louie’s season. Not even close.
As for ralph – you’re going to have to give actual examples of ralph’s “bad attitude” because I didn’t see it – not even after they questioned his manhood on more than one occasion. I thought he was always respectful – and frankly, that was more than they deserved. You want respect, you have to earn it – it’s not something that is normally freely given in the face of nasty comments.
I never thought Ralph had a bad attitude. He was so gracious throughout all the criticism. I often wondered how he was so patient about it all?
I do think Ralph was treated shamefully. The judges seemed to like him at first, but that deteriorated quickly.
They never did lose their enchantment with Hines, though. While he was certainly charming, his dancing wasn’t all that great, but he DID have the Steeler Nation behind him. Ralph was definitely the whipping boy of this season. The judges were just plain mean to him.
I also wondered how Ralph stayed so humble and so patient even when the judges were hard on him. It just goes to show that throughout the whole competition, even through the good and bad moments, Ralph stayed true to who he is, a sweet, humble, and overall nice guy
Ditto what Heidi said about Ralph – he kept it classy, even when the judges (particularly Bruno) made rude, nasty, uncalled-for comments.
As far as the WTA cha-cha, I still think it wasn’t the judges, it was the producers attempting to skew demographics for the finale. After all, that was during “sweeps”, when advertising rates are set. Having both Ralph and Kirstie in the final with Hines would’ve skewed the demo to the “older set”, and potentially effected their ad rates…. so this is just IMO, but I think it was about the bucks.
Oh, I also agree about replacing Bruno. At this point, selecting a name out of the phone book would be more entertaining for me than watching that fool.
Sally’s remark about replacing Bruno with anyone selected out of the phone book at random was so funny, but true. Infact I would like to see all new judges….and I agree with the others that said it is not so much the judges as the producers.The ones looking after the $$$$$’s and the ####’s
They are the ones who are manipulating what goes on. The judges are the ones out front giving their assanine opinions. Well they were dead wrong this season, Ralph had a lot of fans and we watch (or don’t watch) the show also…so your manipulation could backfire on you….The show is getting past its prime anyway.
I wouldn’t mind Bruno sitting out a few seasons. Heck, Carrie Ann, why don’t you join him? Although Len may be harsh and overly critical sometimes, he is the only one who remains consistent and knows how to do his job (IMO).
The winner take all cha cha was a piece of crap. DWTS, please, don’t try anything stupid with us viewers….
As for Ralph, he was such a sweet guy, and even though he wasn’t my favorite coming into the competition, he grew on me. I would’ve clawed the judges apart if I were him (but that’s because I can’t control my anger), but he kept his poker face. It was dissapointing to see him leave on a low….
i’ve been a ballroom/latin dance teacher for 54 years. i live in houston texas. i gave juliana her first limo ride from the airport here in houston when she came with corky and shirley ballas. she and derek and mark grew up together and trained under corky and shirley. they are my favorite dancers..ralph got a bad break..please don’t expect dwts to be all perfect dancing…entertainment nd dancing go together..that’s..what makes it so exciting. i read you every day! you are the greaest!…allen darnel..close friend of the ballas family and shirley……t te