DWTS Season 13, Week 3 – Dancing by the Numbers
Well, personal stories night. As I said in an earlier post – never a favorite of mine. It’s still not a favorite of mine, although it was not as dreadful as I had anticipated it might be.
I think it obviously comes down to, this week, Chaz and Nancy; they’ve isolated (as best they could) the rest of the dancers from the threat of going home. Now, as always, there are no guarantees, but Chaz has a serious uphill climb to stick around. If he beats Nancy, can Nancy rally votes to get past Carson? Well, it is my personal opinion that neither can get past Carson – dude is just too freakin’ hilarious and I would wager he takes out far better dancers than Nancy and Chaz before all is said and done.
The real question in my mind is – just how few people were voting for David? It’s not always a question of Chaz and Nancy (and Carson) getting tons of votes, but a question of someone else getting zilch. It may sound like I’m parsing with that, but I don’t think I am. Say, hypothetically, JR and Ricki each get a million votes. And, in comparison, Chaz and Nancy are only getting 100k each. Obviously, that’s a huge disparity right? But what if David is only getting, like, 10k? See what I mean? Chaz and Nancy aren’t getting a ton of votes (hypothetically), but David is doing even worse. THAT is the question in my mind right now. Is he doing really bad?
Let’s look at the numbers.
The Judges Scores and Percentages
| Place | Celebrity | Score | Percentage |
| 1. | Ricki | 27 | 11.39 |
| 2. | JR | 26 | 10.97 |
| 2. | Chynna | 26 | 10.97 |
| 4. | Rob | 24 | 10.13 |
| 4. | Kristin | 24 | 10.13 |
| 4. | David | 24 | 10.13 |
| 4. | Hope | 24 | 10.13 |
| 8. | Carson | 23 | 9.7 |
| 9. | Nancy | 21 | 8.86 |
| 10. | Chaz | 18 | 7.59 |
In order to stay, Chaz will need a whopping 12,660 votes per million votes cast more than Nancy.
Can he do it? No clue. Chaz is the one person (well, one of 3) who I have no clear feel for how he’s being received on a large scale and what kind of population is voting for him. Next in line to him is Nancy – another person that I’m just not sure about. Sure, we find her engaging, and her partner is cute (but seriously, if that was all it took Maks would have won by now) – but she, like Chaz, is a very polarizing figure on a national stage. So which one is more polarizing? I tend to think it’s Chaz, but that Nancy really isn’t connecting to people who ONLY watch the show and none of the surrounding media. If you go back and watch the first 3 episodes and don’t consider ANYTHING else – is she coming off as warm as we know she is? I’m not sure about that. Also, for as much as Len appreciates Tristan’s choreography and as much as I appreciate his cute face, it’s obvious he hasn’t yet adjusted to choreographing for TV. Step it up, sweetheart, you’re getting a tad dull. And the biggest danger in a show full of characters is being dull. You can be a crap-ish dancer with a huge personality and go a long way (Ty Murray, Kelly O) or you can be a great dancer but be dull or annoying (Audrina, Sabrina) and leave way early. The other option is being a great dancer and ALSO making an impact on people’s memories – that is the safe bet. But it’s really bad to be a mediocre dancer AND be dull. It’s not too late – you can turn it around!
ANYWAY, what happens if Chaz gets his 12,660 more votes per million than Nancy? Where does Carson play into this little drama? What does it take for Carson to leave and Chaz and Nancy to stay? BOTH of the following have to happen:
- Chaz gets 21,100 more votes per million votes cast than Carson does, AND;
- Nancy gets 8,450 more votes per million votes cast than Carson does.
If those two score those votes and everyone else is getting more votes than Carson? Carson goes home. But really, how likely do you think that is? Not likely at all, in my book. Much more likely that either Chaz or Nancy goes home.
Now, what happens if people (okay, me, Courtney and most of the people reading this site) have totally underestimated Chaz…and Nancy? What if we’ve totally OVER estimated the strength of others on this show? Who? Well, David was in the real bottom 2 last week. Let’s say the producer manipulations didn’t take and he’s still not getting the votes. Was he well insulated enough? For David to go home, ALL of the following have to happen:
- Rob, Kristin and Hope all have to get ONE more vote per million vote cast than him, AND;
- Chaz has to get 25,320 more votes per million votes cast than David, AND;
- Nancy has to get 12,660 more votes per million votes cast than David, AND;
- Carson has to get 4,220 more votes per millon votes cast than David.
What are the odds? That’s very hard to say. Certainly I think that Rob, Kristin and Hope all can get one lousy vote. But what about Chaz, Nancy and Carson? Even though David was in the bottom 2 last week, he also was only a point a head of Chaz and tied with Carson in judge’s scores. Not really hard to imagine Carson getting one more vote than him and Chaz getting 4,500 more votes. However, Chaz DID get close to 18k more than Elisabetta. Is David doing as poorly as Elisabetta was? I kinda doubt it – he’s much more well known. Plus, the margins are wider this week. Still, if Tom utters (or Tweets) the words “shocking elimination” – David will be my first thought.
A few people have been mentioning Kristin’s lack of impact. Is she in any danger this week? For her to go home, just replace David’s name with hers in the above list. We have no idea how Kristin is doing in the voting, but she’s not getting a whole lot of attention from anyone other than Mark, whereas David got a motivation to his voting base by being in a real bottom 2, plus he got the pimp spot last night with little Coco cheering him on.
When all is said and done, I think it’s between Chaz and Nancy, with David as the wild card. My instinct is that it’s REALLY between Chaz and David, mainly because they worked so freakin’ hard to get David the votes to stay. The question is – where they successful? I kind of think maybe they were, which drops it back to Chaz and Nancy with, IMO, Chaz not making the cut.
But dang – I am so conflicted. I don’t have any degree of certainty about what will end up happening. This is rather exciting.








Thank you Heidi! This analysis you do is GREATLY appreciated and I know not only by me.
It is indeed exciting!
Unfortunately, I think it’s going to be Chaz as well. They gave him three weeks, but he’s just not pulling it off. If there is a “shocking elimination” though, I would go with Kristin rather than David.
http://twitter.com/#!/Tom_Bergeron/status/121290105313959936
from Tom
Last night’s emotional DWTS is going to make tonight’s farewell even harder. 9/8 C on ABC. #DWTSResultsShow
Thank you Heidi! Talk about suspenseful tonight! I think it’s going to be Chaz tonight, but I wouldn’t miss David if he left now.
Thanks for the analysis. I enjoy reading this section of PUREDWTS every Tuesday. Tom just tweeted: “Last night’s emotional DWTS is going to make tonight’s farewell even harder.”…mmm…probaby Chaz.
*probably
I really hope that it is Chaz who leaves tonight. He is barely dancing. I doubt that he’ll improve much and I think that everyone else has stepped up their game and deserves to stay at least another week.
I think Chaz has danced his last dance. It has nothing to do with his personal life, but the guy simply isn’t improving. He just stands there. I know partly because he’s out of shape and because his knees are pretty much shot, but I think it’s time for him to just go.
Oh and about Tom’s tweet? He HAS to say stuff like that to make people watch!
Tom probably reads this site and tweeted that just to torment us. 8)
I knew this would be another keeper post. Good job as always Miss Heidi!! I pray it’s not Nancy. If I had to choose between Chaz and Nancy, I’d pick Chaz to go. But, the one I really want gone is ROB!!
Great post once again Heidi.
I think Chaz will be going home tonight.
BTW: Did I miss it or was there no Cheesecake Awards for week 2?
I’m with you, Vogue, I’d like to see Rob gone; but somehow Cheryl is beating some dance skills into his peabrain. He’s not even Fred Astaire’s second cousin once removed, but I think she saved him for another week. *sigh*
I still think it’s Chaz but after this post the only ones think are for sure safe are JR, Chynna, Ricki, Robert, and Hope. More than likely, Carson is too. Part of me thinks no one really likes for the most part, David, and he’ll be kicked off in a not so shocking, shocking elimination, part thinks Chaz is underestimated and Nancy is in trouble ” Please no! “, and my crazy side thinks it’s going to be Kristin in an Audrina style elimination. Leaning towards Chaz but im still unsure.
@Vogue – I would love if Nancy and Tristan make it through to dance again. Okay her goes, I kind of liked Rob last week and I liked him even more this week… Back under my rock now!
That’s ok Sandy. I will forgive you ….but, only this time.
It will probably be Chaz, but I’d much rather see the last of David. Watching Vogue’s after-dance interview videos (Thanks, Vogue – you’re phenomenal!!!
) I realized what it is that bugs me so much about David: he looks everywhere except at the interviewer, can’t make eye contact, and that is sorta creepy. imo.
(YW and thanks Shep!!xx)
Did anyone read that Cher plans on being in the audience next week if Chaz makes it through? After reading this I don’t know if Chaz will be the one leaving us tonight.
Heidi I think you’re right in questioning how many votes David is getting. I think he’ll be safe this week given the generous scores by the judges last night. However I think he is relying too much on “Stern Nation.” The Stern Show doesn’t subscribe to Arbitron so we don’t really know how many listeners Stern has but someone estimated it at no more than a couple hundred thousand on any given week day. Of those listeners, some of which even dislike David, how many are actually going to power vote?
This isn’t necessarily scientific but I pay attention to social media and based on just Twiitter for example it appears to me that David doesn’t have near the support that Hines had last season or daresay Nancy has this season. This is just based on the number and quality, for lack of a better word, of tweets that David and Kym are receiving in comparison to Hines and Kym last season. I think David appeals to a younger demographic than Hines so you’d think he’d have more response on social media. I say quality tweets because ever since David’s first appearance on Stern, a good deal of tweets directed at David, Kym, or both have been quite perverted. No need to go into detail since all I have to say is that most come from male Stern listeners. Before and after the show most of the tweets come from David himself or Pee Wee trying to campaign for votes. (Even if I had been voting for David I think I’d stop because he’s appearing desperate…) Also I don’t see Kym receiving the typical messages of support from Steeler fans that she received at the beginning of the season. So I have to wonder how much support they’re really getting compared to some of the others.
Great so it’s bye bye Tristan for me, what a dirty trick Cher pulled saying she will be there next week if he makes it through. ugh!!!
Oh well I will tune in to see the pro dances so not to miss if Tristan is in them & then wait to tune back in for the finale later in Nov.
The show is losing viewers bigtime this season & there will be a good few more gone when Tristan goes too lol
I love Derek too but even he can’t keep me watching anymore, he just does not have the connection with Ricki that pulls me in.
Boy, I sure hope Chaz gets the boot tonight. His dance last night was a joke
Hmm??? Did Cher’s “ploy” work to save her child’s butt on the show? David and Kym look nervous.
for Kym…..whether it’s them, Carson, or Hope….neither of them deserved to go this week, just like Elisabetta shouldn’t have went last week…..guess I got to stay up all night and make 100+ email accts like Mark’s fans now lol.
::::rolls eyes:::: cher did not pull a “dirty trick”. It’s called urging people to vote for your favorite – EVERYONE does it, including all the Kardashians and everyone else. Come on, people. Stamping your feet and crying “no fair!!” is just unseemly.
didn’t we all b*t*ch when Sarah Palin showed up in the audience – we thought she was stealing Bristol’s thunder, and that this should be about Bristol, and not about Sarah.
Same same for Cher/Chaz, no? I actually applauded Cher for not showing up thus far to give Chaz the spotlight and make this about him, not about Cher. You gotta know that his mom draws ATTENTION in the extreme every where she goes. Yes, she’s his mom and many feel she “should” be there “show” her support, but there’s no doubt Chaz already knows how much she’s in his corner. She doesn’t need to show Chaz – we just feel, i guess, that she needs to show US that she supports her son. As if she owed us anything of the kind.
Actually “we” didn’t “all” bitch when Sarah Palin showed up in the audience just because she showed up to pimp her daughter – we bitched because some of us despise Sarah Palin with the passion of a thousand burning suns and don’t need to see her face EVER again.
We bitched because they over scored her to keep her around (like David, but not like Chaz), and Len gave her an EIGHT for wearing a monkey suit. They did stuff for her that they are NOT doing for Chaz.
When it comes to the show – it’s ALL fair. EXCEPT a judges pass or a winner take all Cha Cha – the show has been built around the premise of the viewers AND the judges decide. As soon as you take away the viewer vote, you lose. Mark benefited from it last season, this season the viewers decided.
Don’t really get the problem. Courtney Cox was in the audience for David. Maria Shriver was there for Ricki. Big names come to this show all the time – but now when someone who isn’t a great dancer has a famous mom show up people cry foul??
I don’t understand why some have an issue with Cher being in the audience. She is Chaz’s mother. If he was your son, wouldn’t you want to support him? I also don’t see an issue if Cher wants to promote Chaz on twitter. Again, what mother wouldn’t want to do it? I would find it more of an issue is Cher didn’t want to support him in any way. Plus, they all have family and friends on the audience to support them. Why can’t Chaz?
Y’know, to make things REALLY fair, I say they make a rule that NOBODY FAMOUS IS ALLOWED TO SHOW UP TO SUPPORT ANY OF THE CELEBS!!! It’s obviously a TOTALLY unfair advantage to have a friend or family member of note in the audience, since the camera may pan to them and then give America the wrong idea…and god forbid America start voting unfairly for a show of such caliber! So yeah, sorry Cher – you can’t come to DWTS next week, it may give Chaz an unfair advantage. Courteney & Coco? Get your asses out of here…your very presence gives David an edge. Stay at home with the kids, Billy Baldwin – there’s far too much fanfare that comes with you. Hope, your soccer teammates are persona non grata from here on out. From now on – only common folk & nobodies are allowed in the audience. That ought to level the playing field! Phew…glad the show is completely fair now.
Haha…I was being sarcastic about a “ploy” …that’s what abc.com posters were suggesting. However, I remember it differently regarding Bristol. People kept asking where her mom was, and then reporters would comment that a “good mother” would be there to support her child. I think Sarah (I went and checked) showed up week#2, #4 (Bristol begged her to be there-nervous about rumba), #9 and #10, but not finale. Her dad an sister, or friends, or an aunt and cousin seemed to be there every week but week#6. They show Chaz’ GF and a table of people for him, so he has supporters there too every week. I think the moms didn’t/don’t want it to be about them and keep it about their kids. Heck, I remember fans complaining SP wasn’t there at the finale for her daughter, yet showed up last season to support & see Mark.
My question is: Do you think since this “shocking elimination” that the judges will keep Chaz’ scores (or Nancy’s or Carson’s) very, very low knowing that the fans are there in numbers?