DWTS Season 13, Week 4 – Dancing by the Numbers
Ya know, I almost give up on trying to predict what will happen – my record is for crap this season. 🙂 I’m in a slump. And this week is worse than most because there is a huge spread between top and bottom, but no spread at all in the lower tier of dancers. Add in the fact that Chynna blanked completely and doesn’t likely have the passionate fanbase as some of the others and you’ve got troubles.
That said – there is such a thing as a pity vote and she’s likely to get it. I actually was a bit worried about Ricki and JR – a whole bunch of pissed off voters voting for the lower level people could mean trouble for them as well. Unlike Courtney, I didn’t get outraged at JR’s scores – I just wasn’t overly impressed with JR’s dance. That said, of course, I think the 8 was ridiculous. But when you have a 20 and a bunch of 21’s, does that one point for JR really matter? Nah, probably not. I did watch the dance again and revised my opinion somewhat – lovely dance. The 8 is still ridiculous. I wonder if he set the bar too high for CAI or if she’s just off her meds. We’ll see next week if he’s back in business.
I should learn by now that when Derek gets that freaked out look on his face upon hearing his music it generally means he’s going to rise to the occasion. 🙂 Two 10s though? One would have been enough, just because it started a tad rough. But, damn, over all that was impressive. Rather worried that all those people raving on twitter over the dance didn’t vote.
I also have to give major props to Hope and Maks – FINALLY a lovely dance that I can get behind. Well done – very sweet. And better than Rob and David by more than what the scores indicated. Not sure what Len is on about unless he’s afraid that she’s not getting the votes because up to now she wasn’t connecting.
Anyway…
Let’s look at the numbers.
The Judges Scores and Percentages
Place | Celebrity | Score | Percentage |
1. | Ricki | 29 | 13.88 |
2. | JR | 26 | 12.44 |
3. | Hope | 24 | 11.48 |
3. | Rob | 24 | 11.48 |
5. | David | 23 | 11 |
6. | Chynna | 21 | 10.05 |
6. | Chaz | 21 | 10.05 |
6. | Nancy | 21 | 10.05 |
9. | Carson | 20 | 9.57 |
:::whines::: This is hard. 🙂
People may think I’m crazy, but I’m a bit paranoid about Ricki and Derek this week. Mainly because they’re my favorites, along with JR (and Carson 🙂 ), but even more so because they’ve been doing consistently well, score-wise. And no matter how many times a Kristen gets voted off too soon, there are still people that think someone is guaranteed safety. Or they feel like they have to “vindicate” JR, or “save” Chynna. The end result is the same if Ricki, JR or Chynna gets voted off – lesser dancers stick around and the overall quality of dancing is decreased. The poor or inconsistent dancers can only hold my attention for so long. Then people complain that all the shitty dancers are sticking around. It’s a vicious cycle. For my own piece of mind, I looked at the numbers for both Ricki and JR – something I might not ordinarily address. So what would it take for Ricki to be eliminated? ALL of the dancers would have to get significantly more votes than her, by the following margins:
– Carson would have to get 43,100 more votes per million votes cast, AND;
– Chynna would have to get 38,280 more votes per million votes cast, AND;
– Chaz would have to get 38,280 more votes per million votes cast, AND;
– Nancy would have to get 38,280 more votes per million votes cast, AND;
– David would have to get 28,710 more votes per million votes cast, AND;
– Hope and Rob would BOTH have to get 24,000 more votes per million votes cast; AND
– JR would have to get 13,360 more votes per million votes cast than Ricki.
Okay, I feel marginally better. Some of those people could be getting those kind of votes, but not all of them. Chynna, for one, is not getting 38k more votes than Ricki. I’m not inclined to believe that Nancy or Hope are getting those votes either, but you never know. People are still complacent. I even had a Derek fan ask me if she had to vote. Which of course made me want to scream.
Let’s look at JR too, just to ease the minds of those convinced he’s the next Ralph Macchio. For JR to be eliminated, ALL of the following would have to happen:
– Carson would have to get 28,710 more votes per million votes cast, AND;
– Chynna would have to get 24,000 more votes per million votes cast, AND;
– Chaz would have to get 24,000 more votes per million votes cast, AND;
– Nancy would have to get 24,000 more votes per million votes cast, AND;
– David would have to get 14,400 more votes per million votes cast, AND;
– Hope and Rob would BOTH have to get 9,600 more votes per million votes cast than JR.
Again, a lot of these are possible, but I think most are unlikely. Chynna might get the sympathy votes, but I don’t see Chaz, Nancy or David getting the votes to put him out. Remember, it only takes ONE person not getting the votes.
So, who is in the real danger zone? Well, Carson is the low man on the totem pole, let’s take a look at what he needs to stick around. If any ONE of the following happens, he’s safe:
– Carson gets 4,800 more votes per million votes cast than EITHER Chynna, Chaz or Nancy, OR;
– Carson gets 14,400 more votes per million votes cast than David, OR;
– Carson gets 19,200 more votes per million votes cast than Hope OR Rob.
Now, I can certainly see Carson making it another week in this scenario. But are people getting tired of him? I don’t see it, but then I love him. I certainly think he can get more votes than either Chynna or Nancy, and maybe Chaz. I honestly don’t know if he’s getting the votes to pass David, Hope and Rob – but he only needs to pass one person.
So, let’s say that Carson goes all out and is just killing it in the votes department. The next rung of the scoring ladder is where it gets interesting – and it’s what makes this such a difficult call. Chynna, Chaz and Nancy, oh boy. You saw that Carson needs less than 5,000 votes. But you also saw that Chynna just froze horribly. I think that has a tendency to rally people behind you, BUT there are other factors here; people mad that Carson was underscored, people rooting for Chaz plus Cher’s fans, people revenge voting for Hope and/or JR…the list goes on. That’s what makes this season challenging – the show isn’t any different, they just have a cast made up of likable underdogs which makes it scary for those who really aren’t perceived as underdogs – like Chynna, JR and Ricki, and to a lesser extent Hope. So, what does Chynna have to have to stick around, since she’s the one I’m most concerned about? ONE of the following:
– Carson doesn’t get the 4,800 more votes per million votes cast than her, OR;
– She gets ONE more vote per million votes cast than either Chaz or Nancy, OR;
– She gets 9,600 more votes per million votes cast than David, OR;
– She gets 14,400 more votes per million votes cast than either Hope or Rob.
Hmmm…I think Carson is getting the votes. And is Chynna beating Chaz or Nancy even by a vote or are they getting the votes too?? And what about David? He was in the bottom 2 two weeks ago. Dang, this is impossible to call. Obviously, just replace Chynna’s name with either Chaz or Nancy to see what it takes for them to stay.
Since I was just wondering about David…let’s pretend that Carson, Chynna, Chaz and Nancy all have people behind them. When does David get into trouble? What would have to happen for him to go home? Well, all of the following:
– Carson gets 14,400 more votes per million votes cast than David, AND;
– Chaz, Nancy and Chynna ALL get 9,600 more votes per million votes cast than David.
Now, see – that doesn’t seem impossible. Not to me, anyway. :::sigh::: This is hard. I don’t want to play anymore. 🙂 Okay, let’s start with who I think is 99% safe: Ricki, JR, and Hope. I give Rob about an 85% chance of being safe. That leaves us with Carson, Chynna, Chaz, Nancy and David. And I honestly believe that Carson is getting the votes based on nothing more than personality, so mark him off the list.
That brings us to Chynna, Chaz, Nancy and David – all four of which will be called safe early in the show because the producers are taunting me at this point. 🙂 But, I’m going down this path anyway, because it seems most logical to me. Once again, I’m going to say that Chaz is safe. I think he’s got one more week in him because he’s the underdog of all underdogs. Chynna, Nancy or David – pick one.
Going out on a limb…I can’t think of any reasons why David might be safe. Nancy has Tristan. Chynna has the sympathy vote. Chaz is the underdog with his mamma in the audience, and Carson is Carson. Ricki killed it in a very talked about dance and JR is much loved. Rob?? Well, Rob and Nancy kinda faded into the woodwork last night but I think David had the bigger fade.
I think David’s time might be up. And now that I’ve said that, someone odd will go home. Hopefully all those raving about Ricki and JR actually voted for them.
Hold me, iz scared. 🙁
I’m mainly worried about Chynna tonight. She had a bad night, but deserves to stay in the competition. But after what happened last week it is hard to say what will happen.
It’s impossible to predict this week.
What does my gut feeling say? Hmmm. It’s also confused.
I hope it’s not David because he is really improving but considering he was the bottom 2 already he could be in danger. Let’s just say I’m ignoring that fact and pronouncing him safe.
My first instinct was that Chynna will be leaving but maybe that was due to Tony’s misfortunes on the show more then anything else.
I’ll nevertheless go with Chynna and Nancy as bottom 2 with (*racks her brain, man- this is a toss up*) Nancy leaving.
I’ve changed my mind already. lol It took me about 3 minutes.
I’m now calling Rob will be the one to go. He just didn’t make a splash.
Gawd, really anybody could go.
My gut says Chynna and my brain says Chynna.
That and $1.99 will get you a large coffee at Tim Hortons.
I think Nancy will be the one seeing her way out tonight. Then again, neither Rob or David have made a huge splash either.
I’m confuzzled, and not in a good way 🙁
Let me go away and think about this for a bit. Back later.
I changed my voting from Carson to JR (I’m not a power voter so I’m probably less than insignificant) because while I”d be very sad to not have Carson on any more, very very sad, I’d be even more sad if JR didn’t get to keep going and I didn’t want to keep assuming he was safe, which was what I was doing when I was voting for Carson.
So, how many of us learned a lesson last week?
Well, I didn’t NOT vote for Kristin because I thought she was safe, I wouldn’t have voted for her anyway, nor would I have voted her OFF, (ie I didn’t dis-like her) which of course no one can do, but still I got the point of not assuming one of the better dancers are safe.
While I would marry Maks and would love to dance with him (as IF), and Anna and Kym (and now Karina) are among my favorites, I believe strongly that Derek has something sort of super human about him with his amazing choreography and for this show, his ability to make his partners look good. I’d want him as a partner, I believe he just might be able to make even me look presentable:)
Wow Heidi, I didn’t think it could David to go home and for the reasons you said which are very true. It’s going to be another interesting results show.
Awesome numbers post as always!!xx
My mind is always boggled by these posts. I can follow along, but it still just utterly bewilders me. I am very afraid for Tristan and Nancy, but I’m going out on a limb and saying they have the fans. Whether those fans voted en masse is a different story. Hence, my concern. I do hope they hang around one more week. With his family coming from Ireland next week, I really want them to be able to see him and Nancy perform. But we’ll see.
Other than that, I worry for Chynna because, though she was good, she wasn’t making that much of an impact before last night. And unless people voted for her right off the top, I have a feeling a forgettable first dance will be the kiss of death for her.
Rob is also an candidate, just because I wonder about his fan base. To be honest, I’m surprised he’s lasted this long, but he could have been in the bottom 3 and we’ve just never known it.
You might be right about David. He also could have been hanging in the bottom 2 or 3 for weeks. You might be right. But I will be knocking back the pomegrantate martinis tonight for sure…
I watched it this morning (being in Belgium can’t watch live) and I was really disappointed in Chynna’s performance. She did so well all the other times and now it was as if I was watching someone else dance with Tony. I really hope she won’t be the one who’s leaving tonight but after last week’s surprise nothing is for sure anymore. For me the bottom 2 should be Nancy & Carson and then I want Nancy to leave.
I think it is going to be hard to predict who will be the one to go tonight. I totally put away in my mind that Chynna was the first to dance last night. I hope that helps her in the sense that others that followed also didn’t necessarily dance their best or get their best scores. She deserves another chance – but who knows about her fan base. Also, Tony tends to be one of the quieter pros unless provoked. He might be more vocal in rehearsals with his partners but does not overly react when standing in front of the judges. It is a close one for sure tonight. ;(
If you’re confused, Cidra, that’s because I’M confused. 🙂 I honestly don’t know what to expect tonight.
Should be an interesting show tonight… is it too early to start drinking?
Great post as always Heidi!!! 🙂
It’s never too early to start drinking. 🙂
Imo and only mo, bottom 3 are- Hope,Chynna and Rob. Out of these 3 one will depart dwts tonight.
you never know whats going to happen but i get the david going bye bye i think nancy may stick around a bit more esp when we can say sentences like { Nancy Grace Paso ed to Queen’s Flas Gordon ream song} never thoght i would ever say that lolz. Also and i really want to see carson stick around esp if they do a halloween special i luv his influences on the costumes. wh bty looked kinda cute last night in his jack sparrowesq getup.
I wasn’t so much upset by how JR was scored (although the 8 was ridiculous) as I was about how he was critiqued – it pissed me off that Carrie Ann decided to be bitch right off the bat and start in on how he “didn’t need to be funny” and whatnot, rather than “Good job JR, it was fun, BUT…”. Idk…unless a dance is truly sucktastic (and this clearly wasn’t), I don’t see the need to be so completely negative straight off the bat…and this is the 2nd time she’s done it now. At least soften the blow, ya bimbo.
I guess tonight we get to see what Chynna’s fanbase is really made of. I’m fairly certain Carson’s pretty safe. Chaz or Nancy could go either way. Lord knows about David. Blah.
You’re right, Heidi. I depend on you for clarity, since you’re in the fog, I haven’t got a chance 🙂
After thinking about it, I’m going to say Nancy and David will be the last two under the red light tonight and David will end up going home
Why? Because David burned his bridges with fans in week 2 and hasn’t had enough time to rebuild them. On the other hand, while Nancy and Tristan have been consistently bland on the dance floor, Tristan has the swoon factor and they’re cute as buttons together. I cracked up when they cut to Nancy parting and combing Tristan’s chest hair. The look on his face – priceless!
Personally, I’m hoping for a “shocking” elimination with Rob getting sent home.
great post, Heidi – your analyses always help sort out my muddled brain. Even if I am still confused, I am less confused after reading
I think it’s absurd that you would even consider either Ricki or JR would leave base on last night. I know its your website and all and you can write anything you want but that was just a waste to read because it’s not going to happen. They were without a doubt the best dancers in the competition and have a ton of fans.
Sorry but I find JR’s fans very annoying with all the conspiracy theories. Quite frankly I think he is a lock to win right now based on dancing, the fans, and of course his back story.
Cruely Chynna will be sent home tonight and with her will go my viewership. The fact that after 3 rock solid weeks she can go home for a very human moment while Chaz and Nancy can be given 3, 4, and now possibly 5 or 6 chances to perform a halfway decent dance is beyond me.
Adam, sadly, if it’s beyond you, then you have no idea how this show works.
It’s too bad you don’t understand Heidi’s post, it’s really quite interesting, but understandably, some people just don’t get the math.
My head is starting to hurt just thinking about it. I can’t imagine how your head is Heidi. Just typing this would have given me a migraine…
This is getting to be the tricky part of the show and when I dread it the most… When we start losing the not-so-hot dancers that are our favorites.. There are a few that I will be sorry to see go. If I went out on a limb tonight I would say, it will come down to David, Nancy, and Chynna. With maybe Chynna leaving us tonight, or David, or Nancy… Crap I dont know….
I know how the show works. It has nothing to do with dancing. Never has and never will.
Which is EXACTLY why you have to consider Ricki or JR going home. I thought you understood the show, Adam?
If you don’t like what I write, you are free to stop reading at any time – much preferable to you acting like a spoiled child.
I would normally say that Chynna might go home – except she failed so spectacularly that if such a thing as a sympathy vote exists, she’s going to be getting most of it.
The most forgettable out of all the dances to me was Rob’s – who’s voting for him anyway? All I really remember is Len saying he was walking around like a waiter holding out a tray. If people think he’s cute though, maybe David should be worried. And he’s the only one that we really know HAS been in the bottom before.
So Ricki is going to go home after getting the first 10’s of the season and being the top dancer 3 weeks in a row? When has that happened? Never.
I am on all the DWTS boards including this one. JR by far has the most fans, most women, who are squealing about him being robbed her being robbed there and what not. He is getting probably 7-8 mentions per every other contestants one.
I voted online and gave all my votes to Chynna because she deserves to stay in the competition. I didn’t find Rob or Nancy’s dance spectacular even though their technique was okay.
I hope they revel the bottom 2. For me, I’d like Nancy or Chaz to go.
Heidi, THANK YOU for this numbers post! I was wondering last night – thinking that when David wound up in the real bottom two, IIRC, he’d scored a little higher than both Nancy and Chaz, and was right around Carson’s score…. so, it could happen… 😯
As for JR, I’m sort-of in that “Is he the next Ralph?” camp. I’m not so worried about him going home tonight, though. It’s more of a “story-line” that the judges (especially CAI) seem to be setting up. But, I guess you could say the same thing about Hope & Maks, so… 😉
Adam, please point to where I said Ricki was going home. I predicted that David was going home and said that I was 99% sure that Ricki was staying. Perhaps reading comprehension isn’t your thing? Or you didn’t read the whole article, which means you have no business commenting.
IF you know how this show works – and despite what you say, you clearly DON’T – then you have to consider all possibilities. ANYONE can go home – that’s how the show works. How many people here have said they gave all their votes to Chynna?? If that was a widespread behavior for everyone but Ricki or JR, then of course she can go home. It’s foolish to believe otherwise.
As for your comments about the DWTS message boards – Highly anecdotal and meaningless. Most DWTS boards are filled with the fringes – extreme fans or extreme haters. Most of which can’t hack it here because we expect them to play like adults.
I’m trying to picture the final three or five couples, in terms of who would garner the highest ratings and most advertising dollars. Am I too cynical?
Well Heidi I don’t envy you having to analyze that mess of scores and dances from last night, but I’m so glad you did! 🙂 Thank you!
I’m sticking with Chynna going home even taking into consideration the sympathy vote. Personally, I’d like to see Rob go home tonight. He just seems like such a whiner to me and he probably has the lightest workload of anybody else. He has no other job to do while dancing, no kids to look after, not even a girlfriend to take up some time, and he still manages to give off that “woe is me” vibe; however, I think he has a bigger fan base than Chynna unless she gained most of Kristin’s fans. What are the chances???
@Jay. No, I don’t think you’re too cynical. That’s a reasonable lens through which to view DWTS, It’s either that or the bottom of a shot glass. 😯 Another round, please
I guess I see what Adam is saying – there’s a lot of real estate devoted to Ricki and JR in this post, when there’s no way in hell that is happening because there’s just too many people that are less likable and less memorable and less talented down the line. I also understand the point that Heidi was trying to make, so it’s all good.
I could see Chynna being saved tonight, and then if she fucks up again next week (or is forgettable) then she’s gone. I think David, Rob, and Nancy are the ones in the most trouble. Possible Chaz, somewhat possible Chynna (but again, she is probably getting the pity vote). If I had my way, it’d be Rob, then Chaz, then Chynna, then Nancy, then David – Hope could be somewhere in there too for me, although I love Maks.
Great analysis! This will be a tough elimination. I hope Chynna is not eliminated. I honestly think it will be between Chaz, Nancy and David. Of the three I’m thinking Chaz is the one most likely to be leaving tonight. Though he is trying very hard I think this competition may be a bit much for him. Hope seems to be struggling as well but she probably won’t leave yet.
Good luck to all the contestants. Excited to see the performances tonight.
Trying to figure this one out is SUCH a headache. I’m going to just shut up and hold my breath until tonight 🙁
Forget that! I need a drink now!
Adam, we’ve seen the best or one of the best dancers be sent home early before – e.g., Shawn Johnson, Brandy, etc. On this show, anything can happen – especially when people either don’t vote or vote for other couples because they think the best or near best dancers are safe. Not only is it not unthinkable for this to happen on DWTS, it has in fact happened before.
Great post as always! I also have no clue this week. My head is still spinning from last week! I think it might be David or Rob. I just don’t see the fan base for them like I do the others. But I suck at predicting these things! LOL
Sandra, re your comment to Adam, that’s what I’m feeling cynical about. Brandy was a terrific dancer but I don’t think she could have pulled in the viewers or advertising dollars like Bristol did.
I think chynna will get the sympathy vote for sure. She seemed so fragile..who wants to be the cause of her emotional breakdown? Now if she loses it again next week wave bye bye. I would love David or rob….what a lug…to go but my prediction is that for the sake of drama Nancy & Chynna will be standing there at the end with Nancy being the one to get the boot. On another note..so glad Hope came through. Max had better treat her good. I think someone needs to get back to some a**hole rehab meetings.( his words,not mine.)
I am not sure Nancy will go tonight, could be but she has a fanbase from HLN & CNN voting & she has Tristan who has actually passed Mark Ballas & several other male pros for number of Google searches, he has passed the 1 million mark, which is very interesting so there is alot of interest in him which could save Nancy again.
However I expect the bottom 2 to be probably Nancy & Chynna or Nancy & Carson & have no clue who will go & who will stay lol
Sure hope Tristan stays 1 more week for his family to see him dance!
Jay, where is the proof that Bristol pulled in the viewers or advertising dollars? If the judges overscore crap programs and either power voters keep someone in or people assume a “best or near best” dancer is safe, that can keep a Bristol in the competition. Why the assumption that Bristol (as opposed to Jennifer/Derek and/or Brandy/Maks) were helping to bring in viewers and ad money?
At the risk of Heidi or someone telling me to never darken these doors again with that name…I should follow up that Bristol was a tied-in-a-bow bonanza for so many people. All the pundits and talking heads and radio people and on and on who kept hyping her participation…and her mother, too! She generated a ton of interest and that meant viewers and money for DWTS as well as the network and other networks as well (and don’t forget People, Us, Newsweek, NYTs, Fox, Late Night, etc. etc.) She was great for everyone’s business.
Who is really, really good for business this season? (I mean, who causes people to watch and listen to talk radio and follow other media outlets?) Would it be a Chynna or a Chaz? I feel cynical because I think, if tptb could, they’d hang onto a Chaz or Carson over a Chynna or Rob. Follow the money.
Lisa, I know you love Tristan beyond reason, but google searches? Osama bin laden probably got more google searches than mark too. Tristan is the face that no one has seen before – what do you do when you’ve never seen someone before? You google them. I’m sure Tristan is gaining a nice following as he’s brand new, but the number of google searches may or may not be indicative of votes. There’s no way of knowing. I sure wouldn’t hang my hat on it.
Sandra, you’re arguing two different things: proof that Bristol brought in viewers/ad revenue is one thing, and judges keeping someone in is a different, rather unrelated thing.
Clearly, the judges had a big hand in keeping Bristol around – I actually don’t think they had a clear understanding of the math and how they were responsible for better dancers going home. But the first question about viewers? The rating game is too muddled to know for sure, but the press attention alone is likely indicative of increased viewership. Like watching a train wreck, I’m sure the show benefitted in the short term from her presence. That has nothing to do with her ability, her likability, or the size of her fan base – as you correctly implied, the judges scored her high enough that she didn’t need lots of voters to stay. But, again, that’s not the same as VIEWERS. Viewers and voters don’t necessarily match, as we’ve seen time and again. You can generate one without having the other.
And lay off the demands for proof, would ya? All we have here is theory and think that is widely accepted by most posters.
You’re fine jay. And I agree with you re Bristol.
That said, I don’t think this season has one of those people anymore. I think it wore off Chaz, through no fault of his own. Ratings are down 24% – although they are down across the board, I think that people don’t particularly find the cast interesting, or perhaps it’s past it’s prime. However, there’s been ratings slumps before and the show rallied, no reason to think it might not again.
Heidi, I’m sure not wishing for another Bristol-type, either. Now when I drink during the show it’s mostly for enjoyment, not to blot out huge segments…:)
Bristol Palin absolutely pulled in viewers for the show.
The fall season is almost always lower rated than the spring season. But last years fall season had huge ratings ending in nearly 23 million watching the finale which of course was headlined by the Palin controversy. Last years fall season was up like 30% from the fall 2009 season (Donny Osmond, Kelly Osbourne) and even had some higher ratings than the much hyped spring season of 2010 (Nicole S, Erin Andrews). And this fall season is WAY down from last falls.
I really don’t understand the hype around Chaz. Yes he used to be a she. I don’t dislike him or anything. But he looks so moody and unresponsive. Probably because he’s in pain. And let’s face it, looks really out of shape (almost slobbish). His dances are really weak and forgettable. I’m not understanding whats motivating people to keep him around other than to push an agenda quite frankly. I saw Sharon Osbourne like freaking out on twitter last week because she was so worried Chaz might leave. It seems the motivation from some of his supporters is just as twisted as Bristol’s.
Heidi, I did not mean the amount of Google searches means he has more voting for him, not sure why you took it that way, I just meant he is becoming popular & for instance Mark Ballas has like 700,000 searches & has been around alot longer than Tristan, so obviously he is way more popular than some think.
I think it will be between Nancy & Chynna & Carson tonight as the the facing elmination but hope they are safe one more week even though Nancy is not that good lol
Adam, between you and Sandra, the scientist in me is shaking my head in despair. You because you make these statements like they are fact when they are anything BUT fact – I’ve researched the ratings and it’s not nearly so clear cut as you would like to make it. You might want to put more time and thought into it. https://www.puredwts.com/2011/07/09/dwts-season-12-most-watched-season-ever/
As for Sandra, she is like your polar opposite – demanding proof where no proof actually exists.
Lisa, I took it that way because you said this: I am not sure Nancy will go tonight, could be but she has a fanbase from HLN & CNN voting & she has Tristan who has actually passed Mark Ballas & several other male pros for number of Google searches, he has passed the 1 million mark, which is very interesting so there is alot of interest in him which could save Nancy again.
You are clearly implying that the increased google searches means there is interest in him which could save Nancy. I’m saying that there is no way to be sure that is the case now or ever – even if they make it through tonight, you can’t lay it all on Tristan popularity.
Lisa,
Not sure that it matters, but you did peak my interest about google searches. In doing so, I found that Mark indeed has more searches than Tristan.
I do think Tristan is someone the fans are interested in learning more about. Popularity wise though, I would not compare him to Mark!
What do you? I called one right for a change! 8)
Well, I suppose to each his/her own, Adam. I agree that Chaz is definitely not a phenomenal dancer, but there is something endearing about him. At least to me. And I thought his paso was a huge improvement, so although I was sad to see Chynna go, I’m glad he’s still here. 🙂
Omg yes I had a feeling the fans of Nancy & Tristan would come through, I think their fanbase is pretty damn substantial!!
I will honestly say I am voting just to keep Tristan around, Nancy is not good but it’s about the pros now anyway lol
Lisa, at some point you are going to be in for a rude awakening. Do I have to have the Bristol discussion with you and how her fanbase wasn’t that big but she stayed because she didn’t need a lot of votes to beat a lesser dancer??
Wait who was a lesser dancer than Bristol lol I am confused.
I know they won’t win obviously so don’t worry about my rude awakening lol I don’t want Nancy to win BUT you have no idea Heidi how big their fanbase is so trying to imply I am wrong makes no sense.
Lisa, Nancy may have a large VIEWING fanbase, but I’m not convinced that her VOTING fanbase is as large as you think it is. I might be wrong, but… that’s my opinion.
My point also, Lisa – you have no idea either.
Jesus, and people think I’m a fangirl?? Not hardly, in this room.