DWTS Season 13, Week 8 – Dancing by the Numbers
Remember when I said the judges were using a good bit of hyperbole last week?? Well, they’re at it again – mainly directed at Hope and JR. They were throwing out undeserved superlatives left and right.
JR is, without question, the best dancer this season and he has the best story. I do think he will win and it will be deserved. But I don’t think he should be overscored any more than I think Hope should be. And both were tonight. A 60 for JR?? Ummmm….No. A 57 would have been fine and dandy – and reasonable. He had some of the same issues that Ricki did on his Jive, he just made it look slightly prettier – but not 6 points prettier. And Hope?? Well, after Maks’ past behavior, he’s pretty much dead to me. And that shouldn’t be taken out on Hope. But never in this universe does she get the same score as Ricki Lake UNLESS the judges are desperately trying to make sure that Nancy goes home and NOT Hope.
So, if Rob or Ricki goes home tomorrow night, the judges just better keep their traps shut. It’s on them. I don’t want to see any shock and awe on their faces – surely they aren’t that stupid any more?? Oh wait….they gave Hope a 27. :::rolls eyes::: Clearly they ARE that stupid. Yes, it was Hopes best night of the competition. But she is not either Ricki or Rob’s equal. Not even close. And personally, I think Maks should be fired and Teddy should take over. Rather tired of shitty behavior being rewarded. How very Hollywood.
Anyway, let’s look at the numbers.
The Judges Scores and Percentages
Place | Celebrity | Score | Percentage |
1. | JR | 60 | 23.17 |
2. | Ricki | 52 | 20.08 |
2. | Hope | 52 | 20.08 |
4. | Rob | 51 | 19.69 |
5. | Nancy | 44 | 16.99 |
Okay, so it sure looks likely that Nancy is going home. She was in the real bottom 2 last week and she overcame the 10k votes needed to beat David, but could NOT get the 14k to beat JR or the 21k to beat Hope. So what does she need tonight in order to stick around?? She needs ONE of the following:
– Nancy needs 27,200 more votes per million votes cast to get past Rob, OR;
– Nancy needs 31,000 more votes per million votes cast to get past either Hope or Ricki, OR;
– Nancy needs 61,800 more votes per million votes cast to get past JR.
Since she couldn’t muster those votes last week, I don’t really see it happening this week. But, you never know!! Let’s say Nancy gets the votes. What does Rob need in order to stick around? He needs one of the following:
– Rob needs 3,900 more votes per million votes cast to beat either Ricki OR Hope, OR;
– Rob needs 38,000 more votes per million votes cast to beat JR.
Does anyone NOT believe that they were taking extra precautions with JR?? LOL!! Um, yeah. He’s safe. There’s not much point in pitting Ricki or Hope against JR – they need about 31K in order to beat him this week.
So, I pretty much see Nancy going home. Who is the other person in the “real” bottom 2?? Hard to say. Maks can’t close the deal in a great season with an even more popular partner (ie. Kirstie); do I really think that they’re not also in the bottom two with his behavior of the past few weeks?? I don’t really know – people surprise (and disappoint) me all the time. But at the end of the day, she would have to get at least 1 more vote than Ricki per million votes cast and hope that Rob DOESN’T get 3,900 more votes per million votes cast than her. I think that Rob and Ricki can do both of those things. I could be wrong. And, if I’m wrong, I can go to bed right after the show next week cuz I won’t have to stay up voting. 🙂
I love this person “princess heidi” for saying exactly what I thought about Maks although I don’t know who Teddy is but he should be fired from that show. As far as the rest, I agree – I don’t think Hope is any good either. Great job Heidi!
I hope Nancy and HER shitty ass attitude leaves tonite hopefully the show will give Tristan a better partner next season
@raindance – Nancy has been lovely on the show and has shown the viewers a fun and humorous side of her. Tristan and Nancy are adorable together. I don’t know what show you are watching.
@Heidi – I agree give Maks his walking papers. Hit the Road Maks … and say Hello Teddy!!!
Hey Amanda, please stop telling people how to feel. People will worry if they want to worry. I don’t feel the dances are boring either. You really are pouring salt on the wheaties today and I wish you’d cool it a little.
Raindance, I don’t think Nancy has an attitude like you say either.
Heidi, great numbers post as always!!
hah, Amanda, you seem to have quite a matter-of-fact opinion on a show full of “boring dances”.
Amanda, are you planning on saying the same thing on every thread????
Let me know when you want to have a real discussion! 🙂
Nancy SHOULD be going home tonight, but stranger things have happened. Everyone thought she was going last week and David did. It would be shocking if Rob went home and Nancy was in the top 4. Hopefully, I’m wrong.
Anyone talking about other fans in an instigating manner instead of about the show will be deleted.
I can’t see anyone other than Nancy at this point going. MAYBE Rob but I doubt it.
JR is safe, no contest. Hope probably is too. Her fans have saved her before and when she had a greater chance of going. Ricki and Derek both bring good sized fanbases to the show so I can’t see them losing the second best dancer of an already mediocre season. Gotta be Nancy. She was in the bottom last week and she’s got too big of a point deficit to make up for.
I know that Nancy’s fans were trying to out do some other fans by setting up accts to vote, but I doubt that’ll be enough to leap frog Nancy over Rob–at least I hope not 🙁
He’s done very well and I admit I wanted him off in the earlier weeks but he has grown on me 🙂
Thanks, Heidi, for the numbers. The judges put the nails in the coffin last night for Nancy with their scores.
I’m not sure who else will be in the real bottom two. I think it will be Hope or Ricki, and I’m hoping it’s not Ricki! On the other hand, as someone else mentioned, having Ricki in the bottom 2 this week may rally the troops! 🙂
I thought Rob looked pretty concerned last night at the end. He is probably wondering how big Nancy’s fan base is compared to his and if Len’s remarks riled up her voters.
I think Nancy will go home. As for the bottom two, they may go back and throw in the faux bottom two again. Maybe toss Ricki in there to shake up their fans.
If Nancy does NOT go home, then I will be completely and utterly stunned. As for who the other member of the “bottom 2” will be…if it’s a fake one then it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s Ricki, just for a fake out since they seem to have made peace with Maks and are, mostly, leaving him alone. If it’s a real bottom 2, then I honestly don’t know who it could be, but I do know that it will not be J.R. He has a MAJOR safety net.
Nancy deserves to and will go home. Last week she was in the bottom two and could only get past David, who did not have a great fan base. I think Len’s comments motivated her voters, but I also think they were motivated last week because of her scores so I think her support is about maxed out. I don’t think she will be able to get past the fan bases of Hope, Ricki, and\or Rob.
If they do a real bottom two, I say the second member will be Rob. He fell into the dreaded middle ground of being good but not memorable for being controversial, greatly improved, having an off night, or having a great night.
If they do a faux bottom two, I think they could do Ricki to scare up her voters who have probably become complacent.
JR is completely safe and I honsetly think Hope is too. I mean, Hope and Maks weren’t even real bottom two last week in a week where Maks was shown to get borderline physically abusive with her. They are the Teflon couple. Maks is dead to me too, but I even voted for them last night because it was Hope’s best night and she deserved it despite her partner.
Sarah, I think the judges knew what they had to give Nancy to boot her. Len’s final comment was telling in my opinion. He sounded confident that he sealed her fate.
JR and Ricki will be safe tonight. Out of Rob, Nancy or Hope, one of these stars will be going home. Some say Nancy, imo she might not be going, I do believe she has a big fanbase, so I wouldn’t count her out. Lol, the clock hasn’t struck midnight yet for Cinderella!
Well, after Bristol, nothing surprises me on this show. The judges either cannot see what they actually look like or they don’t care about the contradictions. And never underestimate voting plus weighted scores for who can make the finals, right? Plus, bad behavior that would get us fired doesn’t hurt much or at all out there. It’s all OK if we get some good dancing…that’s the hope.
Thanks for the numbers, Heidi. It should be Nancy’s time to go. She and Tristan have had a remarkable run, and I’m confident we’ll see Tristan back again next season. Even the rather dim bulbs who make some of the wackadoodle decisions for this show must know he’s a “keeper” 😉 Still, I wouldn’t mind saying good-bye to Hope instead. Nothing against her, but she finally had one kinda drama-free week, and I wouldn’t count on Maks’s meds holding out for much longer. So now would be a good time to exit with a smile.
JR and Ricki are the only good dancers left in the season. It’s always a tad disappointing when there are only 2 legitimate contenders left before the semis. Still, barring disaster, the finale should be entertaining.
Was Nancy “ralphed”? I think so definitely. She may not be the best dancer left, but I don’t think the other couples were so much better than she was (with the exception of JR & Ricki) to deserve such overinflated scores. Why must the judges & producers always manipulate the viewers?
I agree with EVERYTHING said here!!!
Heidi, I respect your right to your opinion, but I totally disagree that Maks should be fired. I don’t believe for one minute that other pros don’t have less than charming moments.
Yes, he let his frustration run him last week, but he recognized it and apologized and completely turned it around this week, and got a much better result. Don’t kid yourself that a lot of people watch this show primarily because of Maks. TPTB LOVE the drama and never miss a chance to show him in a negative light. Yes, he gave them ammunition last week and for that he was wrong, but what can he do but apologize and remember that it’s supposed to be entertainment?
He should NOT be fired. There are other pros I would like to see leave the show, but I don’t think based on my dislike of them, it will or should happen.
I always want to know the numbers, you get me addicted, Heidi… hehehe
Well, I’m sorry, but Ricki’s dance wasn’t that good. The jive a lot of the 1st one (which I wanted to see more jive content, btw).
The waltz choreography was just a mix of waltzes Derek had already done: 1st-lil kim, 2nd-Jen Grey, after Joanna, Shannon, Jennie. I mean, recycled and not as good as Nicole and Jen, for example.
The problem is the scores started very high… and It’s clear they want nancy out but, well, this week she deserves, specially bc of the jive, but she did a great journey.
Maks tweeted to Derek earlier today. “Send the haters all my love, x and o, that’s right!”
Guess we can really see now how sincere he is and also where all his supporters who are on the boards saying lots of ugly stuff about other celebs and pros, get their sparkling personalities from…….how this guy doesn’t turn everyones stomach I will never understand.
All the pros recycle choreography. Heck, some even use the choreography of other pros. They take note of what moves work, what looks good on everybody, what has pleased an audience in the past, and sometimes use it again. I am pretty sure that some of the dances, like a slow waltz are pretty limiting in terms of choreography, and when you have less than a week to put a routine together, I don’t think there is anything wrong with taking inspiration from some of your previous dances. 🙂
Princess Heidi gets a 100% accuracy rating for November 8’s Dancing by the Numbers commentary. = )
Mimi, that Tweet of Maks’ was to the singer DRAKE, not Derek and it references Drake’s new song, I believe. Please, get your facts right!
“MaksimC Maksim Chmerkovskiy
“@Drake: Send the haters all my love…x and o”—-That’s right!”
So, in all his seasons, how many times has Maks had to apologize for bad behavior?? Like EVERY season except one – last season. Of course he’ll never be fired, which is why I said “How very Hollywood”. In a normal setting you don’t physically push people the way he did. As for why he should be fired – if you think that based solely on my current dislike for him, you haven’t been paying attention. I was pretty fond of Maks last season – but I can’t find it in my to continually forgive what I consider to be extremely borderline behavior.
Carlos, a waltz is a waltz – I think you have Derek’s bar set too high because of the killer choreo he often comes up with. But, unlike SOME pros, Derek choreographs to his partners strengths, not to showcase his own talents. If the two happen to coincide, great. He’s going to lower the bar to pull off something that looks beautiful on RICKI, even if it looks similar to his other choreo. I’d much rather they have a successful dance than try to be new and inventive and have her not pull it off – which is sort of what happened with their Jive. You can’t have everything.
Ceil, I think this is all on the judges – I don’t think the producers care who wins unless it’s going to look bad on the show in some way. Len was out of line with what he said to Nancy, but I don’t actually think she was underscored. Hope was overscored. Rob? Well, he’s not a great dancer, but he’s the best of the Nancy/Rob/Hope triad which is why I hope he goes to the final with Ricki and JR. If Derek and Ricki were to be a shocking elimination in ANY other season, I would be okay with it – shit happens – but this season?? If Ricki goes home tonight, we will have the shittiest final in the history of the show . And I don’t LIKE that, whether it’s Derek, or any other pro on the losing end with a good celeb. It should be Ricki/JR/Kristin/Chynna next week, but there you go.
Kenna, interesting comment about recycled choreography. For me, all of Maks’ dances look the same. Maybe not all, because his jive last night stood out as a piece of good work, but most of his other stuff makes me say “seen that gimmick before.”
APOLOGIES-sorry I did not see the tag.
Glad to be wrong in this case. Evaine
“If Ricki goes home tonight, we will have the shittiest final in the history of the show.”
I agree. 🙁 Even with Ricki, I still don’t foresee a great final. JR is the best and I think he will win, but other than him and Karina (and Derek’s smart choreography, although that’s more Derek than Ricki for me), I’m not really feeling any of the other dances this season.
I say bring on some ringers next season. I seriously do not care if they have previous dance experience if it raises the overall level of dancing.
Does anyone have a link to this Maks shove? I watched the footage of their rehearsal the first time, but don’t recall seeing this. I thought perhaps I had fast forwarded through it. Thanks!
Jo, here ya go;
I’m with Rory. Bring on the Nicoles; bring on the Kristis; heck, get Cheryl Cole to do the show with Derek as her partner. Talk about ringer, ratings, and raw sexuality. Their paso to Parachute is sizzling. Of course I wouldn’t want CC to play with Derek’s heart just so we could have the time of our lives, but he seems like a big boy now. I think he could handle it. Just daydreamin. What I really hope is that we have a return to the DWTS days of old. I personally have had enough of this stuff.
Nancy and Tristan are adorable and Len is just an awfully rude angry man! I can’t stand him! Wouldn’t it be an absolute kick in his ass to see things not go according to his stupid plans! Nancy and Tristan gains loads of sympathy votes last night and Nancy has a huge fan base. PLus..Rob is dirt dull so we’ll see! Cinderilla may be sticking around longer than you think!
The scores were wonky last night. I also didn’t think Maks really apologized. I heard “we” when he was talking, but not him taking responsibility, but I could have missed it. I love Nancy, but time for her to go home.
Well, Heidi, so we agree in disagree about derek. I think he’s a great pro and great choreographer. I always expect nothing but the best from him. That’s why I can’t love these recycled dances, specially from him.
Btw, we know that the couples from one season don’t compete just against the season-mates but also against all the other couples that made history in the memory of the fans. And I don’t wanna see a dance like they did, you know… For example, I can’t help compare for example a quickstep to Helio’s one, or a samba to Stacy’s or Melissa’s… IMO… I do this all the time, have to confess… =p
I’m with Rory and Alice E…..I would love to see a season without Maks,but with Derek, Tristan and Val (if he drops his bros persona) all having hot, young talented partners.
And maybe Peta, Karina, Anna and Cheryl on the girl side with some hot guy celebs and let er rip. Wonder how the ratings and season would end up then. I’ d love it. I wanna see great dancing and pros can really cut loose when they get partners with lots of potential.
“TPTB LOVE the drama and never miss a chance to show him in a negative light. ” Seems so. It’s a reality show, I get it. But in future seasons, DWTS could up the entertainment quotient a bit and amp down the reality heartache-plenty of other shows for that. I really thought people watched for the pro dancers of whatever gender-those costumes on Edyta, Kim, Cheryl, Karina, etc. aren’t by accident, plus some interesting celebs.
yah, I guess I am of two minds about the recycling choreography, Colleen. I think in some cases, the style of dance may have limitations and it’s not bad to reuse what looks good, but it does seem sometimes for some pros like it is not so much that, but a lack of creativity, or effort.
Alice, I would have to quit blogging altogether if they brought Cheryl Cole in to dance with Derek. She has the most insane fans and I don’t really think that Derek would fare well dancing with her for 13 weeks or whatever. I sure wouldn’t – I could be projecting. 🙂
You are probably right, Heidi. And what would any of us do if you quit blogging? I am far too protective of Derek to wish him in any situation that might be bad for him. Please keep on keeping us straight; nobody does it better!
Thanks for the link. He seemed more rough when he was swinging her around more so than the little shove he did on her shoulder. I thought he was going to whip her across the room when he was doing that. Yikes!