DWTS Rants & Raves – Why the Pros Should Count Their Blessings
This post started off far more “rant” than “rave”, but I opted to change the tone a bit, perhaps in hopes that the message would then be more easily swallowed
As many of you know, Edyta has recently been writing a series of blogs about her time on the show that have been rather…bitter. Vengeful. Even malicious. And it’s unfortunately colored many of our opinions of her for the worse – she even went so far as to block a reader who dared to make a comment expressing “disappointment” in Edyta’s choice to be so critical of the show that made her a household name. That’s when it dawned on me: some of the pros seem to have forgotten what life was like BEFORE they were on Dancing with the Stars.
For those of you unfamiliar with the “real” world of ballroom, first things first: prior to 2005, when DWTS & SYTYCD hit the air, most ballroom dancers (even the world champions) led lives of relative obscurity. They may have been well-known within the ballroom community (which is still relatively small), and may have even been what I like to call “ballroom famous” – a title that me & my teammates from my college ballroom dance team bestowed upon dancers that were particularly respected & admired in ballroom circles – but they most certainly weren’t household names, and they weren’t mobbed by fans in public. In short – they were just like you and I. Just average people with a not-so-average occupation.
How bout a short poll: how many of you had heard the name “Tony Dovolani” prior to 2005? Now of those who had, how many of you HAVE NOT somehow been involved in the world of ballroom dance at some point in your life? If you fit both of the criteria above, then I applaud you – because prior to 2005, the only mainstream thing Tony had really done was a bit part in the American version of Shall We Dance?, and he was also credited as a choreographer in that film. The fact that he actually got a few lines to say was pretty impressive, considering that, at that time, the biggest movie/tv role (besides choreographer) that most ballroom dancers could ever hope for was either dancing around in the background as an extra in a big dance scene, or maybe being a “dance double” for a particularly ungraceful actor (true story: the owner of my bf’s dance studio was Ben Affleck’s “foot double” in the movie Going All the Way – apparently Ben has 2 left feet!). Dancers were lucky to even get credited as extras, let alone hope for a speaking part. The widely held opinion with most casting directors was that “if you’re doing a dance movie, you’d better find actors that can dance…because you aren’t going to find dancers that can act!” It was a far, far cry from the starring movie roles that Julianne & Derek have been given in recent years, and the tv gigs that Maks (Bachelor Ukraine, Celebrity Ghost Stories), Cheryl & Louis (Suite Life of Zack & Cody), Edyta & Alec (CSI: NY), and Mark (Samantha Who?) were able to get due to their DWTS fame.
You know all those spiffy endorsement deals that so many of the pros on the show have gotten over the years, with their faces plastered over everything from shoes to hair extensions to diet pills to makeup to exercise tapes to dancewear? Yeah, pretty non-existent back in the pre-DWTS days – most competitive ballroom dancers were lucky if they could get a dance shoe or costume sponsor to help mitigate the exorbitant cost of competing. And speaking of money – let’s just say they weren’t raking it in back then like they are now
Don’t get me wrong, some ballroom dancers make quite a good living for themselves just on coaching, choreographing, and doing exhibition performances, but it’s peanuts compared to what they’re rumored to make on the show (which I’ve heard reported as roughly $6k+ per week). And can you really put a price on the exposure the show gives them??? Since the beginning of the show, how many of the pros have opened successful dance studios with their name plastered on it? So far, I count Cheryl, Karina, Chelsie, and Maks & Tony (with the new Dance with Me in CA). For those who already had dance studios (like Jonathan & Anna), I can only imagine they started booking up faster after their appearance on the show – I know for a fact that Jonathan is now one of the most in-demand pro-am teachers in the country.
How many pros have graced the covers of magazines since joining the cast of the show? Back in the day, the biggest magazine a ballroom dancer could hope to appear in was American Dancer, the bimonthly publication put out to its members by USA Dance – which, of course, was only sent to members. All those invites to parties/award shows/premieres/charity benefits/etc? Probably wouldn’t happen to your average ballroom dancer. And how many pros can now count some pretty big celebrities amongst their friends…and sometimes exes? Without the platform of DWTS, Maks may never have met Kirstie, Derek may never have met Shannon, and Julianne may never have even been in the same room as Ryan Seacrest. In the entertainment business, it really isn’t what you know, it’s who you know – and DWTS has supplied some primo connections for its pros.
I don’t want ths post to be a neverending soapbox of why DWTS is so great, so I’ll get to my point: as much as the pros may bitch & moan in the media about the show and how “unfair” or “fake” it is, at the end of the day I daresay their participation in it has done them far more good than harm – it has plucked many of them out of obscurity and opened doors to opportunities far beyond their imagination as young ballroom competitors. Some (namely Julianne, Derek, Mark, Cheryl & Maks) have parlayed those opportunities into success better than others (namely Alec & Edyta), but even the latter has undoubtedly benefitted from having the show on their resume – Dance Temptation may not have taken off with someone less notable at the helm. And fans, you can take something away from this too – you may complain about how the show has been so “unfair” or “biased against” [insert pro here] (which, of course, is pretty subjective), but I challenge you to imagine a life without that pro in it. Would you rather watch Maks occasionally “take a beating” from the judges, or have never known him at all? Would you rather see Tony tough it out with such duds as Wendy Williams & Kate Gosselin, or have no idea who he is? I know many of you will probably argue “you can’t miss what you never knew to begin with”, but I’ve seen how this show brightens some of your lives, and what an important role some of the pros play in it. They inspire you, entertain you, and can even motivate you to better your own life. Yes, sometimes this show is indeed “unfair”, “fake”, “scripted”, & “storyboarded”, and I’m not saying the viewers or the pros should accept every aspect of the show without complaint. But when it comes down to it, it still fulfills one crucial purpose in the lives of its pros: to share their love of dance with the world…and reap some sweet benefits while they’re at it








I actually agree with you on this one. DWTS has been a win-win proposition for the pros and the show. The show made the pros more famous than they ever imagined & the pros are the main draw for many people who watch the show.
As far as the drama on the show, reality TV is quite scripted, especially when they can capitalize on someone already upset about something. It’s called compelling TV, whether it should be or not.
WORD COURTNEY!! Couldn’t agree more!! They should all be so thankful….most of them are I think. I am so disappointed in Edyta and Alec at their blog right now. It’s sad and I thought before now Edyta was better than that and could rise above bad mouthing her fellow co-stars. Though I still wonder if the bad mouthing is from Alec filling in as her. Regardless, there is still no excuse. I wouldn’t be surprised if this hurts “Dance Temptation” now.
Wonderful, wonderful post, Courtney! With Edyta’s first blog, she had captured my interest. But with the second and third blogs, the tone had turned and it’s as if she is writing for gossip tabloids or something. Anyways, ALL of the pros who worked for DWTS should be thankful to the show for making average American know the different types of ballroom and latin dances for the only ballroom dances I’d ever heard of before where the cha cha cha and waltz…lol. I also hated when people got on Derek’s case for either being neutral or defending the show, judges, or producers. Derek knows how the show works and he has always been loyal. I’d say most of the pros are with the exception of Maks (and now of course Edyta/Alec)…. and IMO, Maks is one of the pros who has gained the MOST from his exposure on the show.
I totally agree with your post. But I think some pros made their fortune even before DWTS. Here some data if you trust the source.
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/karina-smirnoff-net-worth/
Fantastic post Courtney!! I know I’m grateful for DWTS and Corky & Shirley Ballas as they’ve trained many of the pros on the show. My favorite, particularly.
DWTS is my favorite show. I NEVER posted online before this show. Being such a big fan of Derek’s and the show has led me to meet and interact with some of the nicest people. Some of which great friendships have developed. Watching him dance makes me smile and inspires me to be the best that I can be.
It’s pretty amazing how some of the pros careers have advanced. The show has definitely helped to catapult their careers be it in dancing, movies, music, etc! I’m proud of them.
You “all” do an AMAZING job at this site! I’m grateful for all of you!! Ya’ll rock!!
Great post!!
Great post Courtney. It’s always good to get some perspective on what life was like before DWTS….for us and the pros.
Great article Courtney !!
I think that the only pro I knew before watching DWTS was Lacey but only because I’m a West Coast Swing dancer and the Schwimmer family is unavoidable
Go girl.
Really, NONE of these people have anything at all to complain about.
Elmari, I don’t believe that Maks has ever been disloyal to the show that has given him so much. In fact, I have heard him thank the show any number of times for the exposure etc that it’s given him and others. Just because he rants against the system doesn’t mean he’s disloyal. It’s part of what he’s expected to do in his role on the show for one thing.
Great, great article, Courtney! Thanks for taking the time to write it up and share it with us.
Thanks all for the positive feedback
I guess my main gripe is that Edyta seems to be acting like the show is the worst thing that ever happened to her – a burden, if you will. To which I say “Would anyone even give a sh*t about these venomous blogs you are writing if you hadn’t done the show? Would they even know your name?” I rest my case.
@alicia – They sound pretty vague on the time period where Karina made her money – I think they’re including her time on the show, because the only ballroom dancer I could ever see making that kind of money without the aid of a huge platform like DWTS is George Ballas – Corky’s dad, who once owned the largest dance studio in the world. His fortune at the time might have equaled $3 mil with inflation. Then again, he also invented the Weed Whacker, so might not have all been “ballroom money”
I’m sure Karina did quite well for herself prior to doing the show, but I don’t think it was $3 million well. Now? I’d believe it.
Some of the pros don’t help themelves either. Louis, Edyta, and Alec caused their own problems with the show. Then you have other pros like Anna T who just kinda roll with whatever goes on. They should try to be like her.
Fantastic post Courtney! I agree with all of it. The show may have some unwanted aspects to it, but it without a doubt benefits so many people more than it hurts them.
Great post
Wow I didn’t know any of this and learn’t a lot. Had never really thought about what life for the pros was like before the show, its also made an invaluable contribution to dance and ballroom dancing-brought it into the mainstream. I for one never knew what any of dances were before so learning all the time
Great and accurate post, Courtney!
I’d been around ballroom some and had seen a couple of the pros. So thrilled for the pros when this show hit the air. Finally these dedicated atheletes would be seen by millions. Love this show, most of the time.
That’s why many think alot b4 leaving and make sure they have something solid first. Even most sitcom stars don’t have exposure to 20 ? + million people 20 ? weeks a year. It IS so amazing when you think what household names most of the pros have become and I’ll bet most of them have to pince themselves once in a while, when they really stop and think about their good fortune.
Great post Courtney! You’ve seen my tweet regarding Edyta’s blog so you already know my opinion on her blogs. Any shreds of respect that was remaining were totally blown away.
Also I totally agree with Dee’s post(#5) You guys do a great job here!
great post, courtney. congrats. I loved Edyta, but she’s posting some kiddy things… she’s losing my respect… =( I loved sher, never could imagine she’d be able to act like this…
I completly agree. Cheryl wrote in her book that before Dancing with the Stars, the closest they would get to fame would be dancing for Jennifer Lopez(or some other famous person), and basically being a walking, talking, living,breathing, eating prop. And their all ballroom dancers and only a couple do something other than that, so they really couldn’t be backup dancers,unless they suddenly wanted to switch and pursue a career in hip hop, so yes, all of the pros should be grateful.
I was thinking and so came to post this… Doesn’t this sounding like Edyta is writting a book and teaseing something?
wow…Courtney…love the post!!! you are right in every possible way… i never knew what to expect from a cha-cha or a QS before DWTS…and i never knew Derek… and i would have never got to know him if it wasn’t for DWTS..i discovered Derek because i heard that Jennifer Grey has won DWTS at 50 yo and i wanted to see her dance…and so i was introduced to Derek…although i have to admit i saw cheryl cole’s parachute and i noticed the hot, blond dancer…but i didn’t know who he was or that he was so much more than the wonderful dancer i saw in the clip…by that i mean choreographer, singer and now actor. and i am sure Julianne, Derek, Karina, Tony or Maks would have never had the possibilities they have now thanks to DWTS. Edyta, Alec and Louis always complaining…sounds like a bad case of sour grapes. and the last thing DWTS brought to me are some incredible ppl i got to meet on puredwts.com, purederekhough.com and on twitter. so, i agree..the pros and we have DWTS to thank for all.
I think they first started the facebook blog to promote “Dance Temptation” for next summer, but, Carlos, you could be right. If so, writing a trash type “tell all” negative book on DWTS will only backfire on them in the long run imo. How sad! I really thought Edyta was better than this.
Firstly, great article! Im going to be honest & really shade light to what DWTS has done for the pros & ballroom. I am an African America who grew up in the rural south. Due to ‘unofficial’ segregation, the 1 or 2 dance schools were unavailable to us as well as certain exposures in general. Of course, in time I heard of the Waltz, salsa’s stuff like that. But I laughed off DWTS & only watched for Laila Ali. Eventually becoming an outright fanatic for Karina after watching her & Slavik on youtube. I have my issues w/ DWTS but I am eternally GRATEFUL to the show for introducing me to the beauty of ballroom dancing & I cant imagine my world without Karina. I hope that there are children of all ethnicities that are seeing this show & asking to learn ballroom. What Edyta is doing, regardless if her attacks seem to be focusing more & more on Karina or not, is immature & ignorant. Im appaulled.
If she is, Carlos, she may be reconsidering. She claimed she was going to name names in blog number one, saying she was going to talk about Karina and Derek and then totally wussed out on that in blog number 2. Safe haven? Nope. Then she says that she learned all that information “on line” trying to give herself an out so people couldn’t claim she was talking about former friends and co-workers. Um, sorry – you worked with these people, you were there when all their stuff was going on, and now you’re stabbing them in the back, for hits on your blog. A common gossip.
Courtney, Lisa – don’t worry, I won’t be writing a tell all about you guys. John, on the other hand….
I forgot about Dance Temptation – that makes it even worse, really. Trying to get attention for your show?
Ok, sounds good. LOLLLL!!!!!
Wow, check it out. Edyta’s blogs are gone now.
(Thanks to Evaine for the heads up on this at twitter.)
Two or three fans tweeted to/about her and the fb blog. She deleted tweets and now the fb blog can’t be accessed. I can’t even find the tweet that one fan sent to Mark about it (the mention of his brief dating with Sabrina)….hmmmm?
Well what can I say about this article that hasn’t been said already!!.
Being English, I don’t think these pros know how lucky they are, the poor pros on Strictly Come Dancing (SCD) are not seen on TV, except on the show, yes some has their own dance studios but that is about it.
The worst thing they could do here is a “kiss & tell” book, blog, whatever, when they put their pen down on the last word, they might as well kiss their career good bye.
We don’t put up with ANYONE who thinks they are better then “what made them” bad mistake!! – I first noticed Derek, because the BBC was showing DWTS and he stood out, for more than one reason!! and I again noticed him as we all know on the Cheryl Cole video (damn he was hot) ok back to the subject
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Not sure if you guys have heard of this saying “DON’T STEP ON ANYONE ON YOUR WAY UP, AS THEY ARE THE SAME PEOPLE YOU WILL BE PASSING ON YOUR WAY DOWN” Edyta – #justsaying!
Great post Courtney, and you’re absolutely right. I think Edyta is out of line with these blogs. They really should be grateful. I know for certain we’re grateful DWTS came to be. I agree with Catherine “don’t step on anyone on the way up, you’ll just pass these same people on the way down” My “respect for edyta” amount is slowly decreasing
Bravo, Courtney! What a smart, insightful and well-written article! I really enjoyed it and agree with it as well. I love the whole DWTS experience: watching pro dancers that amaze and inspire me (Derek); voting for my favorite celebrities; commenting and reading in the fabulous PDH and PDWTS sites; and loving the “feel-good” vibes that come from watching the show. It makes a lot of people very happy, I think, and the smart pros would do well to count their blessings in being part of this show. Its a phenomenon but it won’t last forever.
Again, thanks everyone for the positive feedback
I think many of you have already kinda mentioned it, but DWTS hasn’t just been good for the pros – it’s been great for ballroom dance as a whole. After the initial seasons of DWTS (and SYTYCD, to a lesser degree), there was a definite renewed public interest in ballroom dancing that hadn’t really been seen since the days of Fred & Ginger. Most studios experienced a huge influx of people wanting to learn how to dance, & professional couples suddenly found they were getting booked for more & more exhibition performances. Hell, I remember the sudden “shift” in attitude towards ballroom when I was in college and dancing on my school’s ballroom danced team. As a freshman, I always got weird looks from people upon telling them that I was on the team – most were of the opinion that the only people who did ballroom were either over the age of 60 or just trying to find a date. Flash forward about a year & a half, just when DWTS was really getting popular, & all of a sudden it became cool to be a ballroom dancer. Our club call-outs were suddenly packed, & we were getting tapped to teach private lessons to faculty members. It was the great ballroom revival of 2005! While my bf gets annoyed that he sometimes gets students coming in with unrealistic expectations due to the show (FYI, you’re not gonna be able to do flashy DWTS-style routines right off the bat – it takes time!), he is nonetheless extremely grateful for the exposure the show has given to ballroom dancing.
Awesome post Courtney and definitely a good reminder for everyone involved — cast and audience alike.
I’m mainly just very confused about Edyta’s blogs. I don’t understand what she was trying to accomplish?? It definitely doesn’t make me think, “Hm, I think I’ll go see Dance Temptation.” I don’t get it. :-/
Sad that some fans were egging her on to post the blog with the info
Courtney, loved your personal story in post #31 too!! I love that you and your boyfriend will always be thankful for DWTS!!
DWTS is great, I didn’t get the feel that Edyta was vengeful at all. She gave great insight on how the show works. Always wanted to know that. About the other posts… where are they? I love Edyta!
The Dancing Pros posts have been deleted, so…
Dim, when you know what you’re talking about you may tell me to get some perspective. For now, I’ll just say that you don’t have all the facts at your disposal.
So ummm yah, dimgold/Arthur/Natalie/Michelle/Randy/Matias/whatever, I can totally see your IP address – and you’re all the same person. And you’re also now spam
And now I’m also wondering if you’re Edyta or Alec themselves, trying to do damage control. Cute. This post isn’t going anywhere or getting edited, so you may as well just go away. Seems like you’re outnumbered & outgunned.
Oy veh, they never learn do they? Not only can we tell when you’re playing sock puppet, spamming us actually has the OPPOSITE affect of what you might be hoping for Alec…I mean dimgold/Arthur/Natalie..whatever.
I was just wondering the same. Lame!!
LOL – so now Edyta or Alec is planning to write about “real fans”. Oh yes, let’s dig that hole even deeper.
We thought you were defensive and hateful before, I’m sure this will resolve that. Very lovely people.
BTW – that was sarcasm. If you knew about fans, you wouldn’t be having “issues”.
Sad. Honestly, and I use to be such a big fan.
Okay, what have I missed here??? Someone defending Edyta, is that it? You think it was Edyta with a fake name???
Someone spamming us from the same IP address under multiple fake names, vehemently defending Edyta and throwing a few jabs our way while they were at it. Seemed awfully hellbent on clearing she & Alec’s name, for someone that claimed to be “just a fan”. I’ll just leave it at that
Many, MANY fake names.
Hello all, This is Alec and my Facebook administrator forwarded me the link to this discussion. I rarely post in response to threads but I feel that this thread is getting a bit out of control. Edyta and I appreciate the time and thought Courtney put into writing her article. It’s unfortunate that you feel that we dislike DWTS. We feel indebted to the show for providing a wonderful forum to perform in front of millions of people. We felt that it was time to move on since we had opportunities elsewhere. I was accepted to a great business school and Edyta was pegged as the director/choreographer of some major productions. On another note, we do not want to paint any of our co-workers in a negative light, and since some people brought to our attention that the blog didn’t translate the intended message (Hollywood Relationships are hard), we took the blog down. We do want to engage with our audience and provide interesting content so we encourage you to voice your opinion in the future. Hopefully, we can work together. Alec
Thank you for sharing your opinion, Alec. I appreciate it, certainly – it’s not like anyone WANTED to believe that you and Edyta had those feelings or intents. You can’t always control how someone reads your words. And that facebook posting of the picture of the “real fan”?? Didn’t help. At all.
But “out of control”? No. People are sharing their opinions on what they read on your Facebook. Their opinions are what they are and from what I can see they came by them honestly. If you say they took what you wrote the wrong way, then I’m sure most of them will accept that. But, out of control? As we find out here every day, you have to take responsibility for your own written words. People either take you the wrong way, or they don’t like what you say, or they think you’re great (or crap); whichever, your choices are pretty limited to “Sorry, that’s not what I meant” or “Get over it, this is what I think…” or “Thanks and have a nice day.” Discuss, debate, disagree, argue – but nothing I’ve seen here appears “out of control” or unwarranted. We moderate the out of control, actually, like we did the sockpuppet vehemently defending you yesterday. It is what it is.
Alec, thanks for replying. I appreciate it too. I have been a big fan to you and Edyta for a long time. I was even planning on seeing “Dance Temptation” at my nearest city in the future. Now, I’m not too sure?…
Yes, your last few facebook blogs have taken it’s toll. I have to say, it started out great at first. In fact, we reported on it here as with all of you and Edyta’s endeavors since leaving the show. But, you took the low road and you went too far by dissing your fellow cast mates and their “personal lives”. Where have they ever done that to you publically in such a way? They haven’t. You may have issues with them for whatever reasons, but, working it out with them privately would have been the better way to go instead of the fashion it took in your blogs. You could have written about “Hollywood Relations are hard” without using your fellow cast mates to do it. Always take the high road or it has a way of coming back to bite you. With that said, I hope we can work together too, but, only if that means rising above as it will get you much more respect in the end. Cutting down fans isn’t the way to go either if you really care about us and our support now and in your future.
Maybe so Sheery, but that is not an excuse, it is HER career and she shouldn’t have even consider doing something like that, that is just a career suicide.
Thoughtful post, indeed, Alec. But if I may suggest one thing? It would reflect a lot better on you and Edyta, and indeed prove that you do want to engage with your audience, if you or your Facebook administrator didn’t delete comments that respectfully disagree or express disappointment in something you have written.
And you know, a post explaining to your audience and fans WHY you took down the relationship blog posts wouldn’t be a bad thing either. That, to me, would be true engagement with your followers.
Princess, Voguerista, Catherine, Evaine and others…
We are planning on posting a lot of content that paints many people in positive light. We would really want to move away from the negative subjects and would prefer not to dwell on them, my post explains what action steps have been taken. Since looking at this site, I noticed that the moderators are talking negatively about us everywhere and while I can not change your opinion of us, we would love to have you back on our Facebook and open a normal dialogue. We urge a little patience. Furthermore, I don’t know what is meant by “The real fan” post here since it has nothing to do with this discussion.
Never expected Alec himself to comment. Wow.
One thing I can tell you, Alec, is that I’m a very patient and forgiving person especially when people own up to their mistakes….hey, I’ve made mine along the way and I know I will do so again. It’s life and how we learn. Everyone wants to be forgiven. I do.
Anyway, I do respect that you came here in a respectable and thoughtful fashion and have intensions of changing things. I’ll be watching your facebook page closely to see if things turn around and decide from there. Personally after your last few blogs, I had no intention of promoting you here ever again on my end, but, we’ll see? Thanks for coming and explaining your side.
PS: There wouldn’t have been a negative reaction here or elsewhere if you hadn’t of dissed DWTS and your fellow cast members and their personal lives. When you write blogs, you have to accept there will be a negative reaction sometimes and people who will disagree. It happens here all the time as Heidi said.
While this is not my discussion, Alec, I just wanted to say as another guy I respect you for apoligizing as you did. I too have had to apoligize before publicly – and on this site – and it’s difficult but always for the best. I miss seeing Edyta’s and your presence on the show as you are both very talented at what you do, but wish you all the best in your future endeavors. I think we would all like to think you guys are on good terms with your former cast mates and I know at times we say things and they are interpreted wrong or we don’t mean it and that’s difficult when the whole world sees it, like on a blog or facebook post. It’s awesome that ya’ll are moving away from the negative subjects and I look forward to reading the positive posts you speak of on Edyta’s and your blog and wish you blessings in your future projects.
It absolutely has to do with the discussion, Alec (provided that’s who you really are, of course)! That post that you or your website administrator posted was very unflattering and was accompanied with the words “Alec or Edyta will be writing a post on what it means to be a real fan” – it showed up on my twitter and I took a screen cap of it. It’s implications were NOT good and it further impacted how I was viewing your blog postings – as mean spirited and spiteful when people disagree. Same result as deleting people who express even mild disappointment with your blogs. It’s all part of the same discussion. It implied, to me, that all fans are very large, half naked men screaming irrationally at a game of some sort. Fanatics…out of control…you name it.
If you don’t know what I’m talking about, perhaps you need to fire your facebook administrator.
i have a feeling its the real Alec. The language and the way the writing is is pretty much like the mentioned posts.
Vin,
Alec, or the “face book administator”.
Could be the “face book administrator” too. I never realized that celebs needed people to mange their facebooks lol.
@vin – Oh, that’s become quite a little industry. It looks like Kym got someone recently that will tweet using her account… you see things that just don’t sound like she wrote them. For instance, check this link out: http://socialstarpower.com/services.php
Thats an industry that I could love lol
Thanks Alec for joining in on the conversation. I think the most interesting thing for me is the stark contrast between the tone of Alec in his comments on here and those of some of the blog posts. I could be wrong, but the blog posts have more of the feisty Edyta tone that shouldn’t be that surprising when you think back to her on the show. The comments above do have Alec’s laid back personality which was also exhibited on the show.
I personally can’t get all worked up about what they posted on their blogs. I think there was possibly an undertone of bitterness that from what I’ve read seems to stem from their separation from DWTS. However, I didn’t get the feeling that their intent was to harm other pros on the show. In fact, part 2 was much milder and showed that they were trying and learning how to discuss these topics without possibly injuring those around them. I think them taking them down also shows that they are sensitive to this as well.
Trust me. I know as well as anyone having done these blogs for 5 or so years the pitfalls of saying something the wrong way. Try having something you posted on TMZ when you didn’t want to be. Not fun, but you live and learn. I’m sure Edyta and Alec will too.
Heidi, that tweet you mention sounds like a misguided tweet by their social media people to me. The Facebook note by Alec on that same subject was an interesting look at different types of fans that didn’t give me the impression that you got. I think it’s brave of Alec to try and say what a fan is like though. A fan can be anything they want whenever they want. Plus, the bandwagon is alive and well.
Speaking as someone who does this as their full time job, I think Alec and Edyta are sitting on an amazing opportunity (barring any limitations from previous DWTS contracts they signed). DWTS still has 20 million-ish viewers and many people still love Edyta and Alec (including myself). Not to mention they can provide an inside look at DWTS that very few people could provide. Although, I question much of the execution of their social media strategy.
Here are a couple unsolicited suggestions from off the top of my head:
-Get a real blog and stop letting Facebook own the inventory around your posts. Not to mention the limited lifetime of content on Facebook.
-Still use Facebook and other social media to distribute your content. This is easily automated
-Focus content on yourselves and your experience not others
-Once the show starts provide expert critiques on performances, use concrete examples that all ballroom people would see
-Oh yes, and more pictures of Edyta wouldn’t hurt (and that new cast member Darina wouldn’t hurt either) Ok, the ladies would probably like more of Alec too.
I could go on, but there are a few to start. If you’ve ever blogged before, go back and look at some of your first posts. You’ll wonder what you were thinking back then. I know that’s how I feel when I look at some of my first posts. I imagine Edyta and Alec will feel that way a few years from now too. Of course, this assumes they continue creating content, which I hope they do. I bet they have a lot they could offer those of us who love DWTS and ballroom dancing in general.
Dang, I should have just made this a post of its own;-)
Excellent post and ideas John!!! And yes, more Alec pictures too. lol
Thank you John for an excellent post. You touched on many of the things I was thinking but unable to express.
Thank you for fine, helpful post, John #61
Great response, John. Respectfully and eloquently put. I 100% agree with all that you said.