Producers Had To Ban Jaleel White From The Dancing With The Stars Rehearsal Studios
US Magazine (a pretty reputable source), is reporting Jaleel White had a bad rehearsal on Friday with Kym which lead to a heated confrontation with Mark Ballas. Show producers had to step in and banished him from the rehearsal studio. You can read more below and at the link.
The Family Matters alum, 35, “flipped out,” the insider says, after he accidentally stepped on Johnson’s foot. When Johnson, 35, exclaimed “ouch” over his blunder, the insider says, White “got in her face,” and chastised her for “acting like a baby . . . He was shouting at her, calling her an ‘idiot.'”
As Johnson momentarily left the studio in tears, fellow celeb competitor Donald Driver overheard the commotion and “tried to calm him down,” the insider says. Unmoved, White “started going off on the producers and shouting about how they put him with a ‘stupid’ partner.”
Pro dancer Mark Ballas then tried to confront White himself. As their argument escalated, White spewed: “‘You remind me of that annoying sitcom neighbor who gets into everyone’s business!'”
“The producers stepped in and broke it up before it got physical, but they were really going at it — right up in each other’s faces!” the source explains.
Producers then banished White from the studio for the rest of the day. “Now he says he refuses to go back to the rehearsal studio again, that he wants his own rehearsal space elsewhere,” the source continues. “It was a huge fiasco that went down. A total mess.”
A second show insider adds that Johnson “has never had a conflict with one of her dance partners before.”
Wow, if true, this does not look good for him and I hope he doesn’t make it any further. I feel especially sorry for Kym. As you might have read recently, Jaleel has also been having some troubles with his ex girlfriend as well who accused him of being abusive.
Heidi: Well. Hmmm. US Magazine isn’t as reliable as you might think, but they are better than, say, The National Enquirer and a few other rags out there. The thing that gives me pause is that they could possibly be sued over this story if it’s completely fabricated. So, I dunno. I guess I would read it and believe it with some salty products involved…a few grains, if you get my drift. Seems like a scan of the paparazzi video might be in order, to see if he is pissed off on Friday. IF….huge IF….this is even remotely true, I’m not sure that banishing him from the rehearsal studio is the best bet. I would want more than just a field producer and camera person around if he goes off again. Kudos to Mark and Donald for stepping in – I’m not at all surprised by that. But where was very large security man that you always see in the pap videos?? Part of me is very skeptical, the other part of me remembers who bothered I’ve been by how intense he seems.
WOW, Just WOW! Poor Kym. And Kym was so excited to be paired with Jaleel….
I wasn’t really paying attention to his ex wife’s accusations until this really..
IF this is actually true…well poor Kym! She’s the sweetest, she certainly doesn’t deserve this kind of behavior.
I wasn’t liking him that much to begin with so true or not, I just hope he goes soon
I love Kym! I hope it’s not true, but how has Maks never been banned – a few of his partners have cried like babies?
This happened on Friday, and the story is just breaking now, a couple of hours before he dances? Hmmmm.
If this is true, could Kym possibly leave or sabotage herself and choreograph bad routines?
Either way, it’s disgusting to read this and Kym is one of the sweetest pros on the show and doesn’t deserve this at all. I hope he’s eliminated ASAP
I really don’t believe this, I don’t even care for Jaleel I personally wouldn’t mind him going home. I find him boring and he has zero personality in my opinion but Kym tweeted yesterday that she is excited and they have tricks up their sleeves, who knows.
If this is true, my heart is broken. I hope that it’s fabrication – I can see how the stress can start to get to you and you go off about the lease little thing, but I just can’t imagine that kind of reaction towards his partner (calling her stupid? an idiot?).
This just can’t be true, right? (my rose colored glasses at work again. Boy am I glad I’ve hung on to them all these many decades LOL). They seemed to have a good vibe as a team. I’m with you Marlene – if this really happened on Friday, we would have heard before now. So it can’t be true, right?
I agree if true no way paps would miss it by good on Donald and Mark (once in awhile I have to say good job to Mark when deserved), so curious how things are tonight. I cannot help but wonder about that insult to Mark. Seems so random and specific. But sadly I can believe he has a temper. To think at first Kym winning a third win seemed obvious.
If true, also good the producer sent him off.
IF (and as Heidi said, big if) this is true, then I am completely disappointed. Poor Kym! I’m not her biggest fan, but I do like her. She certainly seems like such a sweet person, and as the article said, she never seems to have problems with her partners. Perhaps all the other stuff going on in Jaleel’s personal life just took a toll, but yeah, he should have backed off. Pity it took Donald, Mark and producers to make him stop. DWTS definitely doesn’t need personalities like that involved with its show. What a shame… 🙁
Wow is right….. this just blows me away. There have been quite a few comments here on PureDWTS about how Jaleel is taking things perhaps too seriously…. but going off on Kym???? 😯 Don’t know about the rest of you guys, when when I think “Wouldn’t, Couldn’t hurt a fly”, I think about Kym Johnson…… Oi, vey….. I’m soooo sorry for Kym. 🙁
I agree….huge kudos to Mark and Donald if true.
If this is true, kick him off immediately. None of the pros deserve to be treated this way. Especially not the women.
Colour me also cynical about the timing. I definitely believe something happened, however. I think it will be very interesting to see everyone’s body language tonight…
Kym is the sweetest… I always have my reservations about stories like this, but I can totally see Jaleel flipping out. Whoever mentioned something about it seeming like Jaleel had a chip on his shoulder hit the nail on the head. I’ve had an uneasy feeling about him for several weeks. One only has to follow him on twitter for a little while to see critical comments, mostly directed at females.
Ahem…before anyone starts writing off Jaleel solely because of this article…
…I, too, was shocked upon reading this article, and though I acknowledge that Jaleel is pretty intense, I had a hard time believing some of the claims that were being made. So what did I do? I started “shaking the branches”, so to speak, and got ahold of a source I trust very much. The verdict? My source (and 2 of his/her coworkers) hadn’t heard anything about a “huge blowup” at the rehearsal studios on Friday…and without saying too much, let’s just say these are people that are likely VERY aware of what is going on in the rehearsal studios. They did remark that Jaleel & Kym “have very similar personalities, and sometimes clash as a result”, but that there haven’t been any huge spats between ANY of the couples this season, and my source had never heard of ANYONE being “banned from the rehearsal studio”…and that’s saying something, considering the “shove heard round the world” between Hope & Maks last season.
Take it with a grain of salt, if you will – and if you still don’t like Jaleel, fine. But I would just advise caution in believing every word of this article…because it sounds very sensationalized. Keep in mind, too, that this season’s cast seems awfully lovey-dovey, and we haven’t heard any huge controversies yet…perhaps someone is trying to fabricate a few?
I’m not buying it! This would have “broke” a lot sooner if true! Maybe Buttercup knows something!?
The site Gossip Cop is following up with the reps, so far they did talk to Jaleel’s rep:
http://www.gossipcop.com/jaleel-white-fight-kym-johnson-dancing-with-the-stars-mark-ballas-confrontation/
Sounds to me like it did happen, to an extent, but they’re trying to backpedal and temper the flames. The rep certainly didn’t say that Jaleel didn’t yell at Kym, just that it was “blown up,” wasn’t a “vicious” fight and he wasn’t sent home. Ugh. Us Weekly is known for exaggerating a lot of stuff, but oftentimes it’s on stuff where there’s already smoke, know what I mean?
Poor Kym, but good for the guys for stepping in – which I’m guessing probably did happen.
Well, the whole ‘not comfortable with the cameras filming our every move’ was a bit of a red flag, no?
Again, I want to see tonight and everyone’s reaction to Jaleel & Kym before I make a final judgement…
This totally surprises me. I hope that it is not true because at the beginning of the season, I thought he had great potential.
…. well Buttercup or Courtney’s sources!
Now the cynic in my, after reading Courtney’s post, wonders also about the timing. I read it with a big if and now I am curious on timing of it. Again I doubt even the paps would miss such a big story if true. Hmmm…makes you wonder who talks to tabloid and would have the motive to drop such a story.
I have a feeling that there’s a partial truth to the above, but not all the details. Sally is so right about Kym being the “couldn’t hurt a fly” category. If it was Karina, different story. Kym is so soft spoken and sweet, I can’t imagine.
Although, some of the details of what was said, etc do feel a bit fabricated and/or misreported. There was probably a confrontation and he probably was sent out, but not like it is described above.
Will be interesting to watch their Twitter accounts and them on the show tonight.
I think that the timing of the story has little to do with the veracity of it – if US was being careful, they would take at least that long to try to verify it or write it in such a way (and call their lawyers) that they won’t get sued.
ETA #2: My source says there is nothing in the written production logs from Friday about any sort of “altercation”. And to give you some perspective…EVERYTHING gets written down in these logs.
If anything did happen, I’m gonna venture a guess that it was a tiny misunderstanding that got blown way, WAY out of proportion for the sake of a juicy story. I have a feeling their rehearsal package tonight will set the record straight.
Has anyone checked to see if Mark tweeted anything interesting on Friday? I doubt Donald would say anything, out of respect for Jaleel, but as we’ve seen in the past, Mark…tends to be a bit more vocal if something is upsetting him. 🙂
Yeah John, Cheryl, Karina, or even Lacey would be a different story….
The story (or part of it?) had to come from somewhere. Like John, (and this is odd because I usually have my rose colored glasses on lol), but, I think there is some element of truth in it…especially being there is a past issue of abuse (verbal and physical) in his past. Also, it seems odd that this story has come out right before show time. Anyway, in keeping the show together and for Kym’s sake, I can see why anyone connected to them or the show would want to keep this under wraps as much as they can.
Kym literally just tweeted minutes ago….to vote for him and love to you all…
You guys really think US would have risked pushing such a potentially libelous article if there was *zero* truth to it? None?
I mean, I guess anything’s possible, but…
I dunno, Steve…. from what I remember hearing on the news, the bar of what is libelous is much higher for a “public figure”…. sad, really. But like Vogue said, I think there is something there. It’s an open question as to what, and Courtney as usual has it spot-on – whatever happened, there were cameras rolling, and mics hot, and it’ll be in the video package…
Where did I say that I thought the story had ZERO truth, Steve? I don’t recall saying that. I recall saying that I think something relatively minor happened, and things got blown out of proportion. Read a bit more carefully next time.
As for the risk of libel – it may suprise some of you to know that a lot of publications (gossip-y and non-gossipy, alike) do have a portion of their annual budget earmarked for potential libel suits. It’s kinda like the malpractice insurance doctors carry – it’s there in case they make a boo-boo. And in the case of rags like the National Inquirer, their budget for legal problems is HUGE. Sometimes they knowingly print a story that they know to be at least partially false, and bank on the sales of their publication to off-set the cost of a potential libel suit.
Once again, take all of this with a grain of salt if you wish. Vote or don’t vote for Jaleel, I really don’t care. And I will gladly eat my words if every word in this article turns out to be true. But I feel like someone has gotta play devil’s advocate here…
Remember when someone called TMZ before week 1 and said there was someone on the show who was medically unfit to perform on Monday night. The rehearsals were too much for that person, etc. That turned out to be untrue. Maybe the same source is giving untrue info to US also. Anything is possible!
The timing of this is causing me to pause as well. I’m wondering how much att or weight this article would have had if those allegations from his ex earlier this wk (which US mag also reported) hadn’t have surfaced.
Of course, we are all over it pronto because we are folllowing their every movement, but to others? Hard to say.
Another thing: When People reported the story of his ex, Jaleel released a statement saying that this was the residue of his child custody case. He had no intention of commenting on it further because he wanted to focus on his daughter. He also said that he wanted to provide her w/ a good role model so when she Googles him, she could be proud of him.
It is almost like US mag got the ball rolling w/ the allegations story but kept the “big ammo” for Monday night.
As far as “where was security?” The same could be said about Maks and Hope last season.
I am glad though that other members of the cast stepped in if true.
You know Vogue I agree that the timing seems fishy. Then again it is the paparazzi and they know sensationalizing a story about someone who is one of the picks to end up in the DWTS finals on the night of the show will get them more hits on their site. In my experience I always hate to see many uses of the words “source” and “insider” in a tabloid story. In some cases the stories have some minor fact that may be true, which is how they cover their tails. In other cases they seem to just make up dirt. I knew a guy who worked for US and honestly the publication isn’t that much better than The Star or The National Enquirer now. In fact the article looks like it was written in true Enquirer fashion.
I took Court’s advice, and went to look at Markie’s twitter timeline. Nothing out of the ordinary, so hmmmmm…….
Doesn’t surprise me at all.
For all the talk about Roshon or William being cocky, or Gavin seeming disinterested, or Donald being too intense, Jaleel has always stood out to me as possibly the one who has the big ego and attitude.
RE: “Where was security?” = outside. There are surprisingly few people in the individual rehearsal studios during practice time – each couple gets a cameraman/producer, and an assistant in the studio with them. There is one person at the front desk; security is posted outside. So if sh*t was going down, security likely wouldn’t know about it unless a) they heard it from outside, or b) someone came & got them.
My point would be that they WOULD call him in if there was an issue – and the paparazzi would have picked up on that.
Wonder why the KAt Tales Tv lady didn’t catch anything or even Kym, Jaleel, Mark in a bad mood. I think that lady sleeps there LOL!
@Courtney and @Heidi:
That was exactly my point too re: security!! People complained last season with Hope “where were they?” And now seemingly w/ this too. My point being if they were needed they would have been summoned! So this may not have been as serious as initially thought!
A very good point, Heidi 🙂 Or they might have caught Jaleel storming out of the studio after being “banned”.
Isn’t it something how there is always a huge controversy every season? Well, here we go again all.
Seriously, I’m keeping the slate clean until I see the package and dance. I’m not a real big fan to Jaleel’s dancing anyway so far. So, it’s probably not going to matter if it’s true or not.
@Ms Taz – I think a lot of people tend to forget that security is there to keep paps/other random sneaky people OUT of the studio; they’re not there to maintain peace between the couples INSIDE the studio. And why would they need to? There had never been an instance of a physical altercation until last season, and even then it was really kinda minor, compared to what it could have been.
I just wonder…. instead of “being banned”, if it wasn’t a case of someone saying “you know, it’s late, you two are ticked off at each other, let’s call it a day & pick it up tomorrow”…. at least I hope so.
@Courtney: I can totally see that happening Hun. One thing I didn’t know though that you mentioned was the logs! That one is interesting!! I love it when I learn something new 🙂
You could be right, Sally – and I think it’s easy for a particularly opportunistic person to contort “it’s late, why don’t you go home?” with “GET OUT OF HERE!!!”
@Sally + @Courtney:
Good points.
Could be simpler still “Go walk it off” and he chose to leave completely.
Totally agree with Sally. I don’t trust US magazine – they did report that Maks and Derek were no longer friends last season after Maks’ spat with the judges.
You know, I read this after watching Jaleel and Kym’s dance, and while watching, he completely broke down, and said something about just wanting to get through this week… I will have to listen again to try to figure everything he said…
Anyway, reading this really made sense to me… Not that I believe it, but it just shows that the outside stresses he has been under this week really has been taking a toll on him.
This was a very stressful week for all of them, and add on what’s been going on for Jaleel outside the show…..
At least I better understood his reaction while talking to Brooke. The other guys who were emotionally speechless with Brooke, I “got” but Jaleel….. He was different.
Jaleel on tonights show?? THAT my friends, was ACTING. Yes, all caps. 🙂
Heh…. Like I posted in another thread – sobbing and saying “I just want to entertain”??? Creepy.
Yes, very BAD acting! So obvious!
Sally, Meggie, & Heidi: Like Gus on Psych would say, “You know that’s right!”
I am so torn over this. I really want to give him the benefit of the doubt. After they showed the recap tonight from last week, you could see the strain on his face. With his reference to everyone seeing the man he had become when portraying Stefan, I can understand that too. Does anyone remember Jaimie Farr who played Klinger on MASH? He played a gay guy and struggled w/continuing his acting career because casting directors wouldn’t give him a shot at portraying another character.
Shewww, I felt that deal in the skybox was phoney and creepy too. I’m so glad I’m not alone on that.
@Vogue:
Ok Hun, help me out here please!!!!! I am totally missing the “creepy” on this one. I feel like I have missed some vital piece of intel along route.
OMG…KLINGER WAS NOT GAY. Jesus. EVERYONE should know that since the character is iconic. Klinger was a straight man dressing as a woman in order to get a section 8 (mental discharge) from the Army.
He had trouble getting other roles for much the same reason as the guy who played Radar – extremely iconic character and the actors were heavily identified with them, yet they weren’t the actors that Alan Alda and some of the others were.
Ms. Taz…something is just not right about him and it’s scary like almost.
@Heidi:
Obviously not everyone does. In my case, that show was watched when I was in grade school and that was how it came across. The episodes I watched were re-runs. I would have no reason to look it up after the fact to find out differently.
I am not understanding why you are acting so strongly against something Hun? If we get something wrong and it upsets or annoys you then I apologize in advance, but not all of us have the same info or pov’s.
Quit stating things as facts, Taz, and it will solve a lot of problems. As does expounding on things that you’re not really that familiar with. That causes problems in lots of areas.
I had high hopes for Jaleel and Kym at the start of the season but I have to agree there’s something odd about him. This may not mean anything, but I never saw Kym sitting by Jaleel in the skybox so I wonder if something did happen. I’m not exaclty sure what his “story” was this week. It seemed to be all about him and his coolness. To me it’s odd that he didn’t mention his daughter or someone else besides himself in his personal story week. I think I liked almost every personal story, including William’s, but not Jaleel’s. I’m sad to say that I don’t think he’s connecting with the audience.
Some have trouble distinguishing between things that are facts and things that are opinion, clearly. When you get a FACT wrong, it is not an expression of opinion, it is an error.
This is not a democracy. Back on topic, please. The topic is not me.
Jaleel’s dance was paying homage to Stefan Urquelle. I remember that song from that episode when Steve Urkel becomes Stefan. The tears in the celebaquariam threw me off but I think he’s emotional over those reports on him being abusive to his ex and getting into a heated argument with Kym.
Ten, I took the “over the top” tears to mean that also. He mentioned that Kym was there/strong for him and that he just wants to entertain people and get through this week—-right away that signaled that the issues in the press were what was getting to him—IMO.
Here’s Jaleel & Kym’s interview after the show:
http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/Jaleel-White-and-Kym-Johnson-on-Dancing-With-The-Stars-reports:-Were-fine/8605776
When Jaleel teared up in the celebraquarium I would have found it hilarious if Kym told him not to be such a baby. It would make my night
A lot of non denials in that video. Something happened. And if it’s anything close to what was reported he can forget every getting a vote for me.
wow urkel really is a ass..seems to be the thing with these past sitcom guys who played nerds..look at the guy who played skreech on save by the bell he was on that celebrity fitness thing a few years ago and he was a real ass had a big problem.so this is what i see..they made there fame and money from playing a nerd and i guess now they want to get out of that so they feel like they need to prove something.and jaleel has gotten a fat head for sure.well jaleel i was a big fan but not anymore.best thing you could do is be urkel again you suck as jaleel.
Most child stars have some sort of issue in life–not all most. It’s sad. Even Melissa has demons. Look at the young pop stars , Miley, for example. Good family life, living a dream….then Sh*t happens and it goes downhill.
If anything orse than what happens between Maks & his partners happened with Jaleel & Kym, I feel for Kym, and Jaleel’s mom.
I don’t know what “orse” is lol….meant else…
To be honest, it would not surprise me AT ALL if it was revealed later on that Jaleel suffers from bipolar disorder. My dad is bipolar, and some of his more erratic behavior when I was growing up reminds me a lot of Jaleel’s behavior so far on DWTS – the intensity, the misplaced tears, the hair-trigger temper…all give me flashbacks to the days when I was a kid and my dad was having a manic episode. He’d blow up at my sister and I for something as little as leaving a toy in the middle of the floor…kinda like Jaleel possibly freaking out over Kym saying “ouch”. It’s…disturbing, to say the least.
I’m still going to partially give Jaleel the benefit of the doubt – it sounds like something happened, but got blown way out of proportion. We may never know for sure what really happened. But as much as his contrived tears last night were off-putting to me, I don’t think he deserves to go home just yet. I still think he’s got the potential to be a good dancer, and may have just had a really, really off-week. I’d rather have a weaker dancer (like Gavin or Sherri) sent packing.
The timing of the story coming out just before the show started Monday night surely had to affect him.
I don’t think he deserves to go home yet either. Even Mark said in an interview, that it was blown out of proportion and twisted.
He does need to get a grip soon though. Were his tears really contrived or a result of everything that’s gone on this past week emotionally, both with Kym and his ex? I’d say a bit of both.
I’d like to give him one more week to see if he can redeem himself.
Courtney, that actually makes a lot of sense. I do hope, if you’re right, that he gets help.
Here’s what Mark supposedly said:
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/04/dancing-with-the-stars-mark-ballas-on-jaleel-white-fight.html
Not surprised it s as many thought here it was blown in proportion.
I respect Donald for making no comments. He was there but he is not adding anything. No need to comment or add more life to this story.
I am just wondering who blew this story out of proportion and told Us. I have my guesses. Wish that person did not say anything unless it was, as said by others, completely true.
Taz – since I used “creepy” as well, I can explain why I thought so…
It was just odd to me when considering – Donald got choked up about his friend dying in his arms. Jack got choked up over finding a daughter after all these years. Melissa? A year ago, she couldn’t walk, and is now dancing. Jaleel? Sobbing over “I just want to entertain”???? Struck me as out of place, over-the-top, and…. well…. creepy.
And freaking out over your partner saying “ouch”? This is the same girl that cracked a vertebra in her neck, tore a tendon, and 3 days later was dancing the Argentine Tango. Back when she was dancing with Warren Sapp, she popped her shoulder out of place – had it put back in, and danced that night. She is tough as all get-out, and if she’s saying “Ouch”, or words to that effect, I would think it’s time to call 911 … 😉 So, the behavior doesn’t match the situation to me. Court may have something with her analysis, and if so, I hope Jaleel gets the issue addressed. But to me, anyway, I think “creepy” applies…
I really thinkthat this is true. Donald and Mark weren’t even going near him last night. I have more respect for Mark now and I hope Jaleel gets eliminated tonight. Dude needs to go home before he messes with the wrong people becuase if any more of the male pros were there and some of the contestants the dude would have been brought out in a stretcher.
If he survives tonight I hope that Kym choreographs a horrible routine just to get eliminated. Teach this jerk a lesson.
@vin – I highly doubt any of the male pros would come to fisticuffs with Jaleel, even if he was being completely out of line. Restraining him so that he didn’t hurt someone else? Sure. But I don’t see any of them resorting to physical violence. Not even Maks – as hotheaded as he may seem, I don’t see him as the type to start throwing punches to solve problems. They’re all smarter than that – they know there’s consequences (especially in the media) for violent behavior.
@CJ – It sucks that there’s such a stigma attached to mental illness, because from what I’ve seen from my father (as moody and dark as he can be at times), it’s something that is almost entirely out of his control…he can go from pefectly fine to completely angry with the world at the drop of a pin, and I can tell that he hates that it happens. As contrived as the fake crying was last night, I got the vibe from Jaleel that he was actually crying because he was upset at how he had acted – nothing at all to do with his performance. It was the same sort of look my dad gets on his face when he knows he’s crossed the line, and he feels terrible because he just can’t help it. The crocodile tears may have been a completely narcissistic display in order to draw in votes, but I’ve just got a gut feeling that there’s more to Jaleel than meets the eye…so maybe I’m a bit more forgiving than most. If he is suffering from some sort of mental illness, I do think it’s his responsibility to seek help, before he really makes a big mistake and burns some bridges. I’m no medical professional, but the high-highs and low-lows I’m seeing from Jaleel just smack of the same agony I’ve seen out of my father for 52 years.
@Courtney
Agreed, those types of mistakes and burned bridges can be devastating… 48 years of living with it.
I don’t know, I just don’t about the skybox incident, contrived it felt like.
Yet……
with a thread of truth..”I just want to entertain” that is what it feels like he is fighting so hard for and against (Urkel/Stephan) stepping out and beyond that character(s) …. Hard mold to break I imagine…. and a struggle to have other people see him as more or diff than what those characters were in relation to him as a person and actor represent.
However, he can and does come off trying too hard “Napolean” like complex (for lack of a better word)
Here is another article from zap2it. Obviously something went down and they are all trying to downplay it. Hopefully it was a minor as they are trying to make it seem. Don’s comment at the end is interesting…basically saying he was fine with Jaleel but only because it wasn’t his own wife that Jaleel had fought with lol
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/04/jaleel-white-on-dancing-with-the-stars-donald-driver-sherri-shepherd-react-to-fight-rumors.html
@Courtney: The pros seem pretty tight so I could totally see them doing that. Espeicaly Thristan.
Whatever you say, vin…
The only pro I have ever seen throw punches at someone was Val….before he was on the show.
I don’t think it’s a matter of what really happened. It’s a matter of what people want to believe. Here’s another version of what happened and this is coming from Jaleel’s rep. http://rumorfix.com/2012/04/jaleel-white-apologizes-to-kym-johnson-with-roses/
So which story will one believe? Probably the original story because people love juicy and exciting stories and love to talk about it and get excited about it That’s why tabloids still runs.
What do I think? I don’t think Jaleel did or said anything this bad as the original story claims. First of all, why would someone freak out and call someone a baby when Kym yells “Ouch!”?
If this happened this past Friday, why did they wait until Monday to report this? Seems like they needed time over the weekend to come up with some creative details in order to make the story more interesting. The story in that link I posted doesn’t sound that interesting, does it? So the media have to cook up something.
Also, they waited until hours before voting began to get this out, which could’ve manipulated people when they determine who they will vote for. Recently, a story about his ex and her abuse accusations came out so now the media probably wants to grill him and try to prove her point by making him the “bad man.” So the timing is right.
You can tell that Jaleel and Kym are getting along fine. Did anyone catch the results show tonight where Kym kissed him on the lips? She had her arm around him in interviews after last night’s show. They laughed, smiled and even said they got manicures. You’d have to watch this long video to see the whole cast isn’t really making this a big deal like the media and some of the fans are. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSdVhesW_k8
Many wondered why they didn’t show the fight on the show. It could be because of the media. If the media were saying what a huge fight it was and ABC showed a little disagreement, nothing compared to what the media said, then I think someone will be in big trouble and be sued for libel. I forget who it was but one of the insiders said they had the disagreement on tape but didn’t show it because of that. No one wants any legal trouble right now or ever.
As for the tears… for years, he’s been known for playing Steve Urkel. Since “Family Matters” got cancelled, he’s had trouble finding big jobs as an actor which is why I hardly heard from him since the show got cancelled. He said he loves to entertain, been entertaining since he was three and I think he’s just had a tough week, knowing that he has a hard time finding big parts in movies and shows because so many people probably can’t see him as the guy who’s not a nerd so they won’t hire him. It means probably more than anyone realizes to him that he entertains and he loves it. That, then the disagreement with Kym, the lower score he got in his Jive and trying harder to work on his Rumba to get better scores and the bad press he got about his ex’s abuse accusations. I think he’s just stressed out.
Just my 2 cents!
My former partner’s uncle was an actor on CSI. That cast bickered like the Bickerson’s LOL! The language and the tantrums….whether it’s just famous people, actors (of any level) or the stress….it happens! I find it interesting how many people (not necessarily on this site) are outspoken about Jaleel, yet blamed stress for Maks’ actions with Hope, and he outbursts from season 11. With all the money these people make they can afford “chill pills” 🙂
Wasn’t there a contestant last season “could lose it at any time” and TPTB had to have a therapist on site? Remember people were guessing Rob or Chaz? I thought maybe Ron/Metta.
Liz, that’s mostly along the lines of my thinking as well. It’s quite amazing how many people have turned on him without any evidence at all. There was nothing in the packages last night, and Kym and he seemed to be fine.
I agree that something happened, but it wasn’t anything like what was being reported, but people have decided to wash their hands of him anyway. The incident with his ex was a couple of years ago and he was never charged with anything so did that really happen?
I think the tears were a stress relief kind of thing after a very tough couple of weeks.
I’m not quite ready to write him off just yet. 🙂
Er, some of us haven’t really cared for Jaleel since the first dance. I said several times there was something off about him, that he was too intense. Don’t be too quick to re-write history, Marlene.
I wasn’t actually talking about you Heidi. Yes some haven’t cared for him from the beginning, others who have, very quickly turned against him when this came out last week. He went from “it’s his to lose” to get him off now, pretty quickly. Simply an observation. I don’t think he’s going to win this either, but I’m not going to condemn him without all the facts either.
I’m kinda with you, Marlene – yes, there were people who didn’t like him from the get-go, but there were also quite a few people who either liked him or hadn’t formed an opinion yet…and those were the ones that I was shocked to see turning so quickly once this story broke. Literally, it seemed like people were coming out of the woodwork to condemn the guy after one very sensationalized tabloid story…I think what bothered me most was the fact that some people were GULLIBLE enough to believe every single word without question. Stupidity and blind trust are two of my pet peeves 🙂 I like to think we’ve taught our readers that “the truth is out there” and to ask questions and do some digging before making knee-jerk judgements.
Not saying that nothing happened, or that the story was a complete fabrication – but I do think this got blown way out of proportion, and I’m starting to think this week could have been a turning point for Jaleel…a sort of wake-up call that he needs to stop taking everything so seriously and start having fun and enjoying the experience. I’m willing to give the guy another chance. But if the crocodile tears and fake kisses continue…that chance may be short-lived.
I didn’t think you were talking directly to me, Marlene, simply pointing out that perhaps you were over generalizing.
This is an excellent interview. He pretty clearly spells out what happened with his ex, and though he only touches on what happened with Kym, to me it sounds like it was totally overblown.
I’m with Court. He gets another chance from me, but it won’t last for long if he tries to fake it.
http://www.wetpaint.com/dancing-with-the-stars/video/jaleel-white-reveals-the-truth-behind-his-ex-girlfriends-abuse-claims-video
I really wanted to like Jaleel but my votes went to Jack last night even before seeing Jaleel’s tweets just now. I have a hard time believing everything that’s reported about a celebrity. The timing of the abuse allegations and the reporting of a “heated” fight at DWTS seem real fishy. I now believe Jaleel has some sort of issue. After looking through his tweets, I really don’t think he respects women or maybe he doesn’t respect anyone since he seems to be kind of full of himself. I was offended at what Jaleel chose to retweet today. Earlier he had thanked Kym for spotting that his fly was down before they danced Monday. Someone replied to Jaleel that maybe she just forgot to zip it back up.. Then he retweeted that comment! Not only is it rude and in poor taste, but in my opinion it’s also just plain dumb to tweet a comment like that in a week when you’ve been accused of being abusive to an ex-girlfriend in the past and blowing up at Kym last Friday.
@Ashley J – I had noticed that as well. Once Jaleel’s name was announced I started to check his twitter. I Was not impressed at all. Very quickly I realized I was not going to support Jaleel and Kym (who is one of my favorite pros). Sorry Kym.
One thing I did notice on the show monday (and that I hesitated to bring up because I did want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I can’t shake the weird gut feeling I got) is that when Jaleel and Kym went up to get their scores with Brooke, the rest of the cast was strangely silent and cheerless, when they usually congratulate the dancing pair, however bad the routine might have been.
That, more than anything, tells me that something did happen (though it might have not been as grave as the original report), but that it wasn’t enough to get him definitively ousted from the show, and that the cast and crew are putting on a brave face over it all.
I’m not saying Jaleel might not have had a wake-up call after the fact, but in my book he’s on probation until further notice. And if I still see tension next week, then I’ll take stock and draw my conclusions.
Well, I’m trying to give Jaleel the benefit of the doubt, but things like this don’t help…
http://twitter.com/#!/karenisaacs/status/187621429796290560
He shouldn’t be echoing crap like that…… Strike 2 for me. 🙁
EL, it’s not just you. I commented on twitter that Derek is almost always near the top of the stairs high fiving those who come up after dancing. Not for Jaleel. And it’s not like he was in the confessional with Maria either.
Thanks Sally, I’m disgusted now. Ew.
Me too. I want him gone now more than ever!!
I second that… Or third that….. 🙂
As much as I like Kym I’m not sute I can send any votes his way. I can’t post the link for some reason but E! Online News posted a story about the fight yesterday and he’s getting skewered in the comments. E! had some quotes of Jaleel’s from a radio interview he had done in which he referred to the paps at rehearsal as “20 idiots in the back…” This isn’t the first time I’ve heard him use ‘idiot’ or other names. That coupled with what he’s saying about why the argument happened and the fact that his personal story was about his TV character has made me think that he probably did get angry and call Kym an idiot. I imagine since Kym never saw his show and apparently hasn’t overanalyzed the characters like Jaleel has been doing for 20 years her choreography wasn’t in line with what he wanted. And because he’s a narcissistic egomaniac he probably got angry and offended that Kym didn’t watch the show and understand the true profoundness of Steve and Stefan. You know, that Steve and Stefan are his Mickey Mouse… Forget about Steve and Stefan. Jaleel’s more like Dr. Jerkel and Mr. White now.
Oh and I’d like to add that if Jaleel actually has a publicist, I would not reccomend him or her. In my opinion everytime Jaleel opens his mouth or sends a tweet he’s showing his true colors. That retweet yesterday was extremely classless.
I really want to disagree with the last few posts because I love Kym and want her to get another trophy but I’m not going to disagree. I thought the tweet about Kym noticing that his fly was open was funny but after the retweet about Kym zipping it up for him… not funny.
You guys are really good at paying attention at the details in that celeb red room. Sorry I can’t spell what they call that area but that room where they get the scores. I hardly noticed any of that. Maybe I was just focusing on the dance in my mind, I don’t know. Although there were just a few applauds from the cast and Derek was sitting away from the stairs so that made a difference for that high-five that he usually gives to the audience. It’s possible they just heard about the news of the alleged fight and didn’t know at the time what to think til after the show. I don’t know.
Anyway, I’m still liking the chemistry between Jaleel and Kym based on their interviews after the show. They still smile, laugh, joke and put an arm around one another. So I’m like a few of you. I’d give him one more chance to give it some time since this news about the fight came out to see what happens because I’d really hate to shut out the idea right now that Kym is going to get another trophy.
Last night, I realized that since season 8, Kym’s partners except Donny and Hines have been kinda like jerks or something. David Alan Grier was classless after his elimination, David Hasselhoff, in my opinion, acted like a pig (sorry just being brutally honest) because he wanted to be on DWTS to date Kym, David Arquette went on that HS show and talked that way about Kym. Now Jaleel but again, I’m letting some time go by until we recover from the news to see what happens. I’m just tired of most of the partners Kym is being given because she deserves a chance to stay long as possible. I guess she gets the most difficult ones because she has the most patience.
@RJ – From what I understand, the disagreement stemmed from one step in particular that Kym was trying to get Jaleel to do that was apparently hurting his knee. Kym wanted to keep trying it, but Jaleel said it hurt, and I guess it just escalated into a big argument from there. Not condoning Jaleel’s behavior AT ALL, but I do kinda understand how he might get upset – I think we all know our own bodies well enough to know when something is not going to work and is only going to cause problems. I think Hines may have actually felt the same way about that crazy Argentine tango move Kym had him doing in season 12 that resulted in her injury – he seemed very hesistant to do it, but went along with it anyway because Kym thought it would give them an edge. I guess the difference between Jaleel & Hines is that Jaleel put his foot down (no pun intended) while Hines went with the flow. Sometimes I think the sheer competitiveness on the show can drive pros and celebs to keep trying more difficult, flashy, and sometimes dangerous steps in order to gain an edge…and it does put a tremendous amount of pressure on everyone, and Jaleel is not the first celeb (or pro) to have had a meltdown on the show. I guess it’s all in how you react…whether you’re the type to break down in tears, storm out of the room, get really quiet, scream at your partner, or calmly address your problems like an adult. But I will say this: if you’re tired, hungry, burnt-out, and frustrated…rationale is gonna be in pretty low supply.
Oh, Wow!!!! Jaleel deleted the retweet….. 😯 Wish I’d gotten a screencap. 😉
RJ – Yes, I saw the E! News article. It’s at
http://www.eonline.com/news/jaleel_white_talks_dancing_with_stars/306543
I had to giggle about the part that said the disagreement was “because she didn’t understand who Stefan Urquell was”…. Really? (:::snort:::) As someone mentioned on Twitter – the first rule of damage control is “When you’re in a hole, stop digging”…. sigh.
I saw it too, Sally – I’ll back you up on it. 🙂
Well, to give Hines a bit of credit and perhaps Kym not so much…when someone expresses hesitancy about a move that could result in you getting hurt, you should really stop and think about it, because if they hesitate they or you could get hurt. It’s as much the hesitation as it is the trick itself. Kym should know that…and I think she does. I think I recall her taking responsibility for getting hurt, saying that you get so competitive and you want to do cool tricks and so on.
Thanks for backin’ me up, Heidi!!!! 😀
That’s what I thought too Courtney until I saw Jaleel on ET last night and on E! stating that the disagreement in the choreography was due to the fact that Kym didn’t get Stefan not because of his knee. Seems to me that is what truly occurred why not just say that his knee hurt? Most people who have watched the show for any length of time know that Kym can be competitive and aggresive in her choreography, particularly after the accident with Hines. In my opinion it would’ve painted the whole thing in a much better light to say his knee hurt than to place blame on Kym because she didn’t get a TV character…
I saw that Jaleel deleted the RT but I have a screenshot of his timeline with the RT…
That’s kinda what I meant with regards to Hines – I guess I was just more contrasting Hines & Jaleel’s reactions to similar situations. Jaleel seems to have overreacted, while Hines just kinda quietly expressed hesitation. Then again, had Hines reacted a bit more strongly, maybe Kym wouldn’t have gotten hurt in the first place. Ultimately, I think it’s the pro responsibility to strike a balance between creating impactful, entertaining choreography & keeping both they & their partner safe & comfortable.
@Sally Will strike 3 be if Jaleel goes on Howard Stern like David A?
OMG I hope Jaleel does not go on that Howard Stern show!
I really don’t know what really happened because we’re hearing different stories. The “blow up” was due to Kym yelling “ouch!”, then it was Jaleel complaining about his knee and Kym pressuring him to keep doing her choreography even if it hurts and now Kym didn’t understand the Stefan character. I would rather hear from the horse’s mouth than read stuff online. The only thing I heard from the horse’s mouth was the one about Kym not understanding who Stefan was. I think that makes sense because Kym said she never watched “Family Matters” in Australia but she can always try to find him on Youtube although Warner Bros keep pulling the clips down. However, others will disagree and say it had to do with Kym getting her foot stepped on or it had to do with his knee. Unless we see a tape of what really happened (I think it’s unlikely, however), we can keep guessing what really happened and keep on going with new reasons for this “blow up”. I think it’s always gonna be about what people want to believe until we see that tape. This will never settle, IMO, until then so I think that’s why some people are just trying to move on and focus on next week because we’ll probably never learn the truth. So we can either move on or keep going with new scenarios of what really happened.
As for Hines… it was good that he hesitated but I think he should’ve hesitated more and Kym never would’ve gotten hurt. At least they got that on tape so we know that’s settled! lol. I never known Kym to be aggressive in her choreography until then and I think it’s good to want be assertive at times but you have to be careful and be smart about the moves. I’m sure something like that won’t happen to Kym again. I think she learned her lesson but I can understand that they were feeling a lot of pressure because it was the semi-finals. Should Jaleel and Kym be in the semi-finals, I hope Kym just sticks with what a great dancer Jaleel is and not try to come up with crazy lifts again. I can’t imagine Kym forcing Jaleel to keep doing what they were doing if it really hurts his knee. She’s patient and I think she would back off and try something else, knowing what could happen if she pushed too hard like she did on herself with her neck. So that’s why I’m hesitant to believe the knee story and I didn’t hear that straight from Jaleel’s mouth. Just words on a website.
Jaleel just keeps digging his whole deeper imo. Thanks for the E article.
Hey Vogue is there a DWTS in China? If Jaleel keeps hitting the press circuit that hole is going to keep getting deeper… 🙂
LOL RJ! I just did a google search and I don’t think China has a DWTS, lollllll
LOL!!!! Yeah, RJ – at this point, it looks like Jaleel only put the shovel down so that he could fire up the back-hoe! 😀 And yes, a stint on the Stern show would be “Steeeeeeeerike 3” in my book….
I was just making a copy of the show for a friend who missed it this week so I re-watched Jaleel in the celebriquarium. (By the way he should be in the running for an Emmy for “Best Fake Crying Performance on a Reality Show.” Though some of the Housewives or the Kardashian sisters may give him some stiff competition…) Anyway, did anyone else notice Tristan and Maria in the background? They looked like a couple of grade-schoolers about to burst out laughing. I’m not sure if they were just messing with each other or reacting to what Jaleel was saying, but when Jaleel got to “my Mickey Mouse” Tristan strarted nudging Maria and she ever-so-slightly nudged him back. Oh and Gavin had a WTH look on his face.
This dancer has sent me bad vibes from the beginning of the show and makes me very uncomfortable when it is his turn to speak or dance.
I can tell Kim has a small “problem” too with him. He is always placing his hand around her “lower” back and she is removing it. I feel bad for her, I wish he would just leave the show because this year’s show is the best it has ever been and we have watched it faithfully. We even place our votes for the one we want to go the furthest. I hope this can be worked out without further damage to Kim or the show.
Good luck and safety to the dancers.
L. Reilly