SPOILERS!!! DWTS Season 14, Week 4 – Who Got the Boot??
Well, Tom warned us it was a shocking elimination, that’s for sure. I predicted they would call Gavin safe very early. Just sayin’. 
That’s the only thing I got right tonight, but it’s something.
Eliminated in the fourth week? Sherri and Val. Shocker. Not from a number standpoint…from a popularity standpoint.
Here are our predictions for who was going home:
Heidi: After a good bit of waffeling, I predicted Jaleel going home with either Melissa or Gladys in the bottom two with him.
Courtney: Had Gavin in her bottom spot in the power rankings, along with Melissa.
John: Called Jaleel on Twitter…AFTER I posted my numbers. Cheater cheater pumpkin eater. 
We were ALL wrong.
Anyway, Roshon in the bottom two and Gladys safe…do you know how many votes Gladys had to get?? An assload more than Roshon did, that’s for sure. To be precise, 27,500 votes more per million votes cast. Now that doesn’t necessarily mean Gladys was getting a ton of votes…it might just mean that that Roshon was getting none. I may just do a post on this elimination so that people understand what it took.
I would be lying if I said I wasn’t hoping for a different person to be eliminated. I’m not a Sherri fan, but she LOVED this show and everything about it…she appreciated every moment and was obviously happy every week. She is what this show is all about.
I’m unhappy. I’m imagine I will be unhappy most weeks from here on out. 
Could have been worse! However, Sherri didn’t really improve that much each week. I guess all that pimping on The View and from ABC didn’t help her that much.
I’m really surprised it wasn’t William.
The producers really gave Cheryl a nasty shock, didn’t they?? Wonder if she’ll start to focus more.
I was happy to see Sherri go, I would have rather Melissa of gone though. She isn’t that great of a dancer neither is William or Gavin.
Roshon is starting to annoy me slightly, I am finding him more cocky each week but that might be just me. I love Maria and Katherine, would love to see either of them win
I figured Roshon might have a weaker fanbase ….but bottom two? that means EVERYONE is getting more votes than him
…guess we know who the rule change was for now.
I was thinking it would either be her or William after a bulk of the couples were called safe. I honestly thought that it would’ve been Gladys that was gonna get the boot.
I admit, while I am VERY happy Roshon survived…I am very sad to see Sherri go. Like you said Heidi, she really showed so much appreciation for the show. She wanted to be on there so bad, she worked her butt off, and she loved the entire experience. I would have kept her over Jaleel and William (well I have more problems with Cheryl than with him) any day of the week. I feel so bad to see her go
i’m not sherri’s fan but i kinda admit that i’m sad;( :::hope they are given 1 or 2 more weeks.. & i love val, sigh :::
Though I felt bad for Sherri since she was really glad to be on the show and having a lot of fun, I can’t say I’m sad to see her go. I found her bubbly personality to be a little offputting after a while. Still, I would have rather seen William or Jaleel go over her. Very surprised to see Roshon in the bottom two. Hopefully his fans will start voting more. I’d hate to see him get eliminated early on.
Oh Goodie, Now the C-Brothers fans will be sending all their votes to Maks. Does that mean Melissa will stay and some other better dancers could go. Hey, if she is not in the bottom 2 it could happen.
I am curious now to see how these danceoffs affect the competition. Dang it, I really wanted William to go, now it looks like we are stuck with him for a while longer.
I’ll miss Sherri…she was nothing if not entertaining. I can think of a few more I wouldn’t miss. But, next week will be the start of the “dancing for your life” trials. That’s gonna make for some good WTF moments.
Not wholly surprised. Roshon is as good as gone. The fanbase obviously just isn’t there. Gavin, I’d bet, also isn’t long for this (DWTS) world.
Donald looks like he could go for awhile. And nice job by the producers panicking everybody re: Mark & Katherine.
I forgot to add…I love that Len is getting heckled in the streets even though it was very narcissistic of him to tell us about it at that particular moment.
Ovedramatic Mark thinking they were in the bottom, lol.
PH, love if you did a numbers post. I think it is not that the judges pets or Gladys have that big of a fan base, which of course is always possible. But as you said, more likely Roshon was not getting the votes.
I am very happy I am at work and didn’t contribute to the shows ratings tonight. I cannot believe the manipulation by Tom, Brooke, and producers. Sherri a jaw dropper?? Shocking?? She danced first and was 1 point from the bottom.
I think it is very sick they strung the entire cast and audience out like that all day with the tweets about it being “shocking”.
I am very sad about this elimination. Sherri was a huge fan of the show. I wish they treated her more kindly than to use her for “suspense”. I bet she thought she’d be safe after they said it would be “shocking”. These are real people on the show and they do have feelings. I feel bad for her.
I knew there was a reason they were being so harsh with Gladys. Home girl is pulling in votes! She freakin passed Roshon??
I am going to have to start giving Roshon some votes. It is depressing that Jaleel is still so high after all his stuff. I am glad that the judges save is coming in next week because I don’t want to have another year like last year where the finals are so predictable because all that’s left is weak dancers to challenge them.
I’m doing a numbers retrospective, Melissa, at Evaine’s request.
Yep: good job making us panic about Katherine.
Relieved that Roshon is safe. While I was mostly indifferent about Sherri, it’s sad to see her gone. She was at least fun. Mad and disappointed when Jaleel was called safe.
I’d be looking forward to your explanation on how many votes Roshon didn’t get, Princess. Thanks. 11.16% and in the bottom two >.<
No, Andrea, Gladys isn’t necessarily “getting the votes” – she’s just getting more than Roshon. If he’s getting none, then her passing him isn’t a great accomplishment.
And this is the reason I’m doing a numbers post tomorrow or Thursday.
I was hoping Roshon would swagger off the show.
Not actually shocked at Sherri leaving—she’s kind of annoying, her dancing isn’t great, and most C bros fans vote for Maks. Now Val’s fans will probably vote for him and that’ll help boost Melissa, which IMHO should have went tonight (or Gladys).
Roshon was in the bottom 3 when martina was eliminated, right? He probably hasn’t been getting many votes since the beginning.
I was hoping Melissa or Gladys would go but after Tom’s comment, i knew that wasn’t going to happen. So glad it was Sherry and not Maria or Katherine. Poor Donald was sweating it too. He did NOT want to leave. I love him!
While I didn’t appreciate Sherri’s “victory dances” the last couple of weeks, I did feel for her tonight. I wasn’t a fan of any of her dances, but I enjoyed her enthusiasm. I am very happy Gavin is safe. I hope to see more improvement from him next week. Yay Gavin!
Thanks, PH! Crazy with the dance duel.
I noticed the voting site was down for a few minutes, can’t remember, probably between 3-5AM Eastern time. Maybe there was a surge of votes coming in that the server went down for a few minutes? Who knows.
I’m not happy with the bottom two, but I do think they calling the real bottom two each week really benefits the bottom two stars. Look at Gavin.
Oops post went early! Meant dance duel will be crazy because if Roshon falls in the bottom 2 because of votes.
Sherri was annoying but felt bad for her because she clearly loves the show.
I wouldn’t call that a shock.
Sorry to see Sherri go but I think the elimination was reasonable.
Loved Karina’s tango. THat girl is amazing
Gavin carrying Melissa down the stairs was too sweet. I am glad that they showed that side of him, I do think he is slowly gaining some new fans, but I don’t think he will be around too much longer.
@Sheery, Roshon wasn’t in the bottom 3, he was just in jeporady. I’m surprised it was Sherri, but I don’t think it was as shocking as it was made out to be. I was shocked it wasn’t Roshon after the shocking elimination was pumped so much. I was expecting a Sabrina Bryan style elimination, this was just Kristen/Audrina part 3. When Roshon was announced in the bottom two, I thought,” well you might as well just send him home now” because the elimination was supposed to he super shocking. I can’t say Im happy it was Sherri, but I can say Im happy it wasn’t Roshon, Donald, Maria, or Katherine. As long as those 4 stay put until at least week 8 Im happy.
OK, definitely a shocker for me. I never even thought about Sherri being the one to go. What happened to all the fans of The View and 30 Rock? I’m sad because I loved her attitude, but I am so, so glad it wasn’t Katherine. I really don’t want to see anyone go – well I wouldn’t mind if Jaleel left I guess. I want to see Melissa gain confidence, I want to see more of Tristan (and therefore Gladys), I would like to see Gavin turn the corner, and everyone else I just want to watch dance since they do it so well. Poor Sherri! Those tears just killed me.
I agree that Roshon being in the bottom 2 is far more shocking than Sherri going. Roshon should thank God for this new judges dance off coming up the next 3 weeks. It will really give him a shot to stay.
I really don’t want to watch tonights elimination. Sherri was a deserving choice to go based on dancing but she was so happy to be on the show that it must have been heartbreaking for her tonight.
I’m so upset! Sherri wasn’t my favorite by any means, but at least she had fun and I loved her and Val together. They really made a good team.
I cannot tell you how much I wanted it to be Jaleel! He gives me the willie worms!
I know everyone else is throwing their hands up in joy, but I’m kind of sad. I mean, it was to be expected after we saw her in the bottom two with Roshon. I still have 3 other favorites, so I’m not THAT upset, but I did enjoy her.
Well, to be honest, I wasn’t all that shocked. A little surprised that Sherri couldn’t pull more votes than, say, Melissa or Jaleel, but she was just 1 point up from the bottom. As many others have said here, Sherri was enthusiastic, but too over-the-top for me… Heidi, I’m really looking forward to your post on what it took for things to wind up this way! Thank you for taking that on!
I think we are also seeing that some pros have far larger fan bases now than some others and it can impact you in the competition. Like if Sherri or Martina had Maksim I think they may still be in the competition and if Melissa had Val or Tony she’d be out. Val just doesn’t have as big a fan base as Maksim, Derek, and Tristan.
Well, that was brutal, but at least this time Tom’s idea of a “shocker” and mine were different :big sigh of relief: I guess I’ll be living in dread every Tuesday from now on. What havoc will the dance-offs create?
While I won’t miss Sherri, I do feel sad for her since she was loving every moment and had such a positive attitude.
Can’t wait for your numbers retrospective, Princess.
I was seriously hoping for William after Jaleel was called safe…
I had a feeling that Roshon would be in the bottom 2 but not get eliminated. Sherri being eliminated isn’t a surprise. I’m glad Jaleel isn’t eliminated unlike many on this site.I’m hoping that Gladys, Melissa and Gavin will be eliminated the next 3 weeks b/c the competition will get interesting with Jaleel, William, Maria, Donald, Roshon and Katherine left.
You know Sherri is on a show that is political, etc. She took heat for comments about the “hoodie” incident in FL, and apparently dissed Jaleel on the show. I know many of my African American co-workers emailing me saying they didn’t vote for her because of her comments. They threw their support behind Jaleel. Their phrasing was close to “we don’t knock each other”. Interesting.
Totally agree with Andrea. It’s not just about which celebrities are getting the votes anymore. The pro is also a big factor. Tristan has developed a huge following over the past year which I’m sure helped Gladys.
Er, no, it’s not about Tristan. Sorry. She’s GLADYS KNIGHT…and Roshon might not have been getting the votes. Gladys only needed 4,300 votes to get past Sherri.
Reality check, please.
I feel so bad for Sherri. Should have been william or jaleel. I also don’t know how much more Melissa has left too. She is probably going to be in the dance off next week.
Katarina didn’t say Gladys is getting votes only because of Tristan. She said the pro can be a big factor and Tristan has a large fan base and she was sure it helped. I think It’s obvious Maksim, Derek, and Tristan are more popular than Mark, Val, and Tony.
Tonights show took 20 years off my life. Phew, Roshon and Chelsie are safe. Wake up call to his fans that we need to vote even more. He had a great dance and good score but that isn’t all it takes. Thinking about how so many others passed him and it makes sense except Jaleel (well maybe he got sympathy votes). Gavin has been in the bottom 2 previous 2 weeks, Katherine and William (especially) had off nights on Monday, Melissa injury, Gladys was in the bottom, Maria is injured and a fighter, so those could be surge voters this week with Roshon still not getting that many votes.
Curious with how scoring will look next week and how they will handle the regular dance and then practicing for a duel dance.
Gladys Knight (w/ those low scores) stayed because of her status -& no doubt about that::: & it’s not about tristan’s fans alone.. c’mn ppl.
Tristan is not like Maks or Derek yet -but he is going there….
Imo, this was so wrong. Love this team. I know i will be giving my vote to jaleel since so many want him off the show. Gladys has a fan base, love her too but imo she doesn’t need my vote, Jaleel does. As far as the older Chmerkovsiky brother, liked most of his celebs he danced with just never cared for him, so it’s safe to say this team will not be getting my votes.
Roshon and Chelsie’s interview on Afterthe Buzz with Jackie was the cutest thing. He is sooo hot for teacher. Now that would have been an appropriate rock song for them.
Can I just say that Katherine had such a cute and honest reaction to her being safe? Priceless.
I wish someone could video cap that. It was awesome.
Maybe Katherine is growing her fan base. I hope so.
Anyone else catch the hug that Karina gave Maks? That was the first time I’ve seen them acknowledge each other in years. Was a cute moment. Gavin really is adorable too.
I liked Sherri and would much rather have had Jaleel gone. Oh well.
Princess Heidi,
I actually called Jaleel in the comments of the Power Rankings post as well, but it’s all good. I’m glad Jaleel’s still around. I still want him to go full on Erkel on the show.
To be honest, I was quite happy about Sherri leaving. Then, I read your homage to her and her love of the show, and I felt kind of bad. So, I guess I’m stuck in the mixed feelings bag now.
I have mixed feelings about this. I wasn’t able to watch last night or tonight, but caught up tonight when I got home. Sherri wasn’t the best dancer of the cast, so I’m not going to say that I think this was the shocker they tried to make it out to be. That would have been Roshon, Katherine or William. Still, as everyone has said, Sherri loved the show and was so happy to be a part of it.
Next week with the dance off’s will be interesting.
The more they called ‘Safe” the more nerve wracking it got, but if you look at the overall big picture, there was way more enthusiasm and giggling than dancing, but, and this is just my opinion, just because it’s someone’s dream to be on the show doesn’t mean they should hang around and others should go home. As the hour progressed it became obvious it was going to be a shocker and I feel for Val mostly.
I keep reading comments about who it should have been and it should be the one with less combined votes and that was obviously Val and Sherri. Many times there have been mishaps and mistakes and those competitors went on, and sometimes got decent scores for going on as well as they did, and I always remember and consider that, and this could apply to several, including Jaleel.. sometimes you just have a bad day.
It’s been so close and it’s so hard to predict and I honestly had no idea who it might be, but I was glad to see Katherine, William, Gladys and Roshon make it through, and the biggest shocker to me would have been if Gladys or Katherine didn’t. Gavin or Jaleel wouldn’t have been as much of a shocker or upset for me, and I have to wonder if it could have been a case of fans countering over scoring? It’s all speculation and assumption since we have no idea who is getting the votes, but after last night, we sure know who wasn’t! I was kinda nervous and considering that perhaps it could have been Roshon because of the fan base demographic.
I do like the dance off elimination because I prefer experts that know all of the requirements have power over fans since giving them too much power turns it into a popularity contest and sometimes good dancers go home, so I feel this will balance things out, and it’ll show what they’re made of, how much time they’ve put in and give some a chance to redeem a bad night, not to mention it’ll add more dancing so there will be less fluff and filler. I still can’t get over Bristol progressing and Brandy going home.
I forgot to mention my two favorite parts of last night. Seeing Dmitry, who looked amazing and Jose and Karina’s performance. Outstanding!
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Can’t say I was shocked about this one. Before the show I tried listing all the celebs trying to work out who would go and honestly, Sherri was the one I forgot about. In other seasons I think she would have lasted longer on personality alone, but I don’t know? Maybe in the end she was a victim of all the vote splitting happening this season. I know so far I’ve voted for Katherine, Maria, Donald (my top 3), Gladys and Gavin.
I really feel like Gavin could wind up being the Ty Murray of this season.
Not that sorry to see Sherri go, though there were two who could have gone first – her love for the show redeemed her a lot in my eyes. She did achieve the job of making me warm to Val too.
Just a thought, but as well as saving Roshon, could the dance off thing be to try and get rid of Gladys? I like her and think she’s doing a good job for her age, but am not sure I’d like her saved over the top 4 dancers. I know she passed a lot of people, but if they low score her and get her in the bottom two they could eliminate her when her fan base might stop her falling right to the bottom – a la Bristol and Marie?
I still don’t agree, Andrea. I’ve been saying for years that the pro MIGHT help, but might not. The average viewer is going to vote based on celebrity. Do you think having Derek helped Jennifer Grey? I actually don’t – she’s JENNIFER GREY. She was in an iconic movie loved by millions of women who are now the demographic of DWTS. Would Jennifer have won with anyone else? That I don’t know. Kyle might have gotten past her. For someone like Katherine, or Maria, or William – the pros fanbase can be valuable. But for Gladys Knight and Jennifer Grey? It’s highly debatable. If they do help, I think it’s more along the lines of teaching style than it is fanbase. At this stage of the competition, to put too much emphasis on the Pros fanbase – especially one who is still really untested – is a mistake, IMO.
I think Mark is pretty popular! (not with me …. but with many others)
I did notice the hug between Maks and Karina and was happy to see it. Maybe they can both put the past behind them now.
Yes, I think Mark probably has more fans than Tristan does, and certainly more than Val does. Thing is, there’s no real way to measure Tristan’s popularity yet. You can sense it, but it’s not as measurable like it might be for the others. Frankly, like I’ve been telling people about Design a Dance – it’s not the size of the fanbase, it’s the passion of the fans in it. If Derek has 100 fans and Tristan has 50 fans – half as many – Tristan can win DaD easily if Derek’s fans just vote a couple times, but Tristan’s fans vote all day every day. It’s simple math. Whether it’s 100 or 1 million.
I never thought it would be Sherri, after the “shocking” talk. I was so sad for her. When she and Roshon were standing up there I kept switching who I was hoping would leave, because I am a fan of both teams. I went with Roshon, and I’m glad he stayed.
Mark and Katherine must read message boards…they seemed to think, like many viewers, that the shock would be them. Or at least, it seemed that way to me when from their actions when their names were called.
I like Maks, and I have nothing against Melissa…but I’m kind of upset at the thought that all Sherri/Val’s voters will turn to them now. For me, Melissa is the worst dancer left…though I would still root for her over William. Cheryl was shaking in her heels last night, huh?
I saw Maks and Karina hug last night too. It made me smile. I’m not hoping for them to get back together or anything, but man would I love to see them dance together again! I know it will probably never happen, but they’re right up there with Tony/Julianne and Anna/Jonathan as my favorite pro pairings.
I hope fellow Roshon/Chelsie fans will vote more! I know I will be. But if they’re eliminated…I’m gonna be team Donald/Peta all the way.
I agree that popular pros help unpopular stars but don’t have nearly as big of an impact with popular stars. But that’s just regarding the votes the pros get regardless of their celebrity partner and without going into benefits of someone being a good and patient teacher or a good choreographer.
Sherri being a jaw dropping elimination was certainly a stretch by Tom. I’m not sad to see her go because I never got into her, dancing or personality. She did have a couple of nice moves and some funny jokes, but not enough grounds for improvement.
Roshon is actually beginning to annoy me. He certainly was shocked to find himself in the bottom two after good scores. At least other celebs, such on Donald, seemed sincerely relieved to be safe. I was never a fan of Sherri’s, but I loved her enthusiasm for the show.
I’m kinda in the same boat a lot of other people are in – I wasn’t a huge Sherri fan, but I also don’t think it was her time to go. I would have kept her around at least another week or two as we weeded out William & Jaleel. I guess she was just the victim of having an off-week and getting lost in the shuffle – even though I don’t think her dance was really “bad”. Bland? Yes. Bad? No. The only couple I really thought did BAD this week was William & Cheryl – say what you will about the other couples, but William & Cheryl were the only ones that actually messed up their choreo (more than once!) and lost time. Everyone else managed to stay on time and get through their steps (even Gladys), even though their routines may not have been very impactful.
Sucks about Sherri, but I guess in the end, I have to wonder, “Would she really have stuck around a lot longer had she not been voted off this week?” I doubt she would have made it to the finale, with so many good, athletic dancers this season…guess I’m kinda blase about the elims now, after losing Jack. And while the diehard fans may shift their votes over the Melissa, I don’t know that the general voting population would do the same thing – once again, I think we’re stuck in our internet “bubble” and don’t really have a feel for what the average fan is doing. Seems like I saw a lot of folks on Twitter claiming that they weren’t going to vote at all anymore, since they find the whole system so unfair.
My mom made a good observation last night – “Wow, 2 members of the ABC family in the bottom 2? The producers must be sh*tting themselves!” I daresay it was a wake-up call for them – and I would not be surprised if Roshon was suddenly getting a lot of love from the judges next week. I do think he’s the best male dancer in terms of technique this season, so I would like to see him stick around – I’d love to see what a freestyle from Chelsie looks like, especially with a partner that can actually dance.
Yeah, it’s a shame Roshon is not very personable because the boy can certainly dance.
Why do so many of you want William gone? I get that the sex selling is annoying but he himself hasn’t done anything wrong, he seems like a nice enough guy and can also dance quite well. Cheryl HAS been making it tough to root for him but that’s not his fault.
Being bland was ultimately Sherri’s downfall – this is the point of the season where being bad isn’t what gets you eliminated, it’s being average and forgettable. Thus, while dancing to BoRhap was a pretty whack choice for a tango, it was actually a brilliant move on Gladys & Tristan’s part, as it makes an impact, and guarantees that you’ll be remembered. And while William was memorable for all the wrong reasons, that just got his fans to vote even harder for him. Rochon, OTOH, was stuck with a bland song on rock week, and Sherri’s tango was soooo sloooowww… thus, not really a shock they were at the bottom.
sasa, I’m sure William is a nice guy, but that’s kind of irrelevant to why many of us want to see him eliminated – we don’t really think that he’s that great of a performer, and we dislike the preferential treatment he’s getting from the judges (at the expense of other contestants) and the fact that his partner seems hellbent on selling him to us as a sex object. You cannot expect people to ignore all of the above just because William “seems like a nice enough guy”.
Will miss Sherri’s enthusiasm! I’m glad it wasn’t a better dancer that left before her this week but I think she had at least one more week, if not a few, left in her. Hoping this means we’ll see more of Val in the pro numbers though!!
I also liked Sherri’s enthusiasm but definitely not “shocking” as Tom stated considering she had the second lowest score.
Loved seeing Gavin & Karina safe early! (Go, Heidi you called it!) I also really enjoyed seeing Maks & Karina getting along and hugging instead of the awkwardness of previous eliminations! Fingers crossed that they will dance together in the future. And, of course, Karina’s dance was wonderful!
@Courtney
He is certainly not the first or the last to be the judges’ hot thing. I personally think he can dance and that he was over scored a bit but not drastically so. And Cheryl is a bit loopy right now which is a shame because if she were on her game and if they had great chemistry (which I don’t think they do but I can’t blame William for it) the dancing would be amazing.
I wasn’t a Sherri fan, but I caught her exit interview on GMA this morning. She was very gracious and positive throughout.
Well, there goes our comic relief for the season.
There were so many people I would have been OK with and would have been happy to see Jaleel or William leave, not to be rude. Rough first three elims though, gosh, Martina, Jack, and Sherri are all three huge bummers to see leave so soon. I’m happy Gladys is still with us but I just wish it wasn’t at Sherri’s expense but you can’t have it all. Not in this world, and it was so nice seeing Sherri on the show and a blessing to hear her story last week. 
they would all do better if they had the proper music to go with the dance.
I was not a fan of Sherri, either, but it was her extreme exuberance that made me cringe, not her dancing. In her exit interview on GMA this morning, she was calm and spoke like an adult. Very nice to see this side of her rather than screaming, etc. I will certainly miss Val, but as others have said, he will be in Pro dances now probably. In one interview, Maks indicated Val was embarrassed he was unable to take Sherri further. He is new to the Pro status on the show, so hopefully he will discover it is normally not about the Pro at all when someone is voted off. I think he did very well, and I love watching him dance.
Well, Court, Roshon was in second place with Maria and still hit the bottom two – that’s pretty serious and I’m not sure that the judges can fix that without giving him a 30 and giving everyone else a 24 or less.
I don’t see that happening. He had a 6 point spread and 7 people with lower scores and STILL hit the bottom two. Not good.
As for people here and elsewhere getting stuck in the internet bubble?? Hell yes. People always think that what they read on the internet is representative of the audience as a whole and it almost never is. That’s a hard thing to remember.
Seems Sherri is still teary eyed on The View today! Makes me wonder if any of the other contestants would really be that upset.
I wasn’t “shocked” by the elimination but I think both her and Jack last week were kicked off before their time.
Er…pretty sure Gladys and Tristan had no say whatsoever in dancing Tango to BoRhrap. They don’t get to pick either – only during story week.
Well, last night’s elimination wasn’t a shock. She was in the bottom 2 with the judges this week and have been in the middle in the pack. I think Tom meant the bottom two was a shocker. I was quite surprised to see Roshon there standing next to Sherri. Well, at least the next 2-3 weeks the judges will be deciding on who gets eliminated and I’m predicting that the judges will never send Roshon home but you never know. So I think he’ll be fine next week and for the next 2 weeks. After that, better get cracking on that voting! When Sherri stood next to Roshon, I thought it was Roshon going home only because Tom said last night would be a shock.
I definitely qualify as a member of the average public audience in that although I really enjoy this website I am in no way a power voter type. My (just) teenage kids only watch DWTS when I watch it. They were excited to see Rochon this season because ‘they got a Disney kid who can really dance off the charts this time !!’. That said, they do not actually go out of their way to watch. Yes, they did each vote for Rochon, but they are in bed by 10 o’clock on school nights and if the computer is slow, well Rochon doesn’t get the votes. So, this might be representative of Rochon’s audience. As an additional note, last week they had trouble getting their votes through, this week my daughter commented on how easy it was to vote for Rochon.
Didn’t say it would actually work, Heidi – just said I could see the judges doing it, just like they did with Chelsea during finale time in season 12. They gushed & gushed about how great she was and threw around 10′s like it was no big deal – then they acted shocked & awed when she still ended up in 3rd place. They probably think they’re a lot more clever & influential than they really are – “Maybe if I REEAALLLY talk up Chelsea, the fans will actually believe she’s a good dancer and start to vote!” or “A few 10′s ought to keep her safe!” Does it actually work? Not really…if anything, I just think it pisses the viewers off more, and drives them to vote for someone else. They can’t force their favorites down our throats and expect it to work. But they still seem to do it, and that’s why I think they may go easy on Roshon for the next few weeks – if he sticks around. If he falls into the bottom 2 again (and I agree, he probably will, even if they judges are cushy in their scores/critiques of him), I daresay he could probably beat Melissa, Gladys, Gavin, and maybe Jaleel, if they’re in the dance duel with him. The rest of them? I’m not so sure – guess it will depend on whether some of the judges can tune out the voices of their screaming vaginas/manginas when it comes to certain contestants
If he’s in there with Katherine? Buh-bye, Roshon…no way they’re letting her go over him.
Heidi, in his EW blog, Tristan kind of gave the impression that they had a say in the music – he talked of wanting to do a Kiss song but then wasn’t allowed as they were going to be on the show.
As much as we want to invoke this fanbase or that block of power-voters, this week’s results was all about Rochon NOT getting the votes. Making up a 6-point spread? I suspect R&C will get a vote bump next week, but at this point I don’t see them going past top-5.
I think the BIGGEST shock for me last night, isn’t Sherri leaving, and it isn’t Roshon being in the bottom 2. I do think Sherri had the personality to stay a couple more weeks, but her dancing was toward the bottom of the middle of the pack. And, with everyone dancing well, there really isn’t a “bottom of the pack” this season. And Roshon? Definitely doesn’t have the same sweet endearing personality as Sherri. He’s a nice kid, and can dance well and should, since he admitted he’s a dancer, but he just doesn’t have a personality that wants to reach out and grab hold of me, to want to keep him around.
What was my biggest shock? Tom didn’t just announce Roshon in jeopardy, he was announced “in the bottom 2.” That’s not how things had been done for a few seasons….
Lori, you’re correct that they haven’t really done a real bottom two for several seasons (I think they stopped in season 8) except for once in a while (last season with David)…but they’ve been naming the bottom two every week this season so far. THAT is weird.
I love that they started naming the bottom two! Probably it’s in preparation of the dance offs. They want people to see that good dancers can end up at the bottom as much as is possible to see.
And maybe TPTB figured before the season started that Katherine, William and Roshon would be good dancers but unknown to the audience so in order to raise the drama they decided to do this ‘show the bottom two and then implement dance offs’ stuff. They figured it’s probable someone good would not be getting votes. Well, it’s a theory.
Sasa, I like that they’re showing the real bottom 2 as well. I like that it has probably saved Gavin for them to do that. On the flip side…if William is in the “bottom 2″ one week but not booted, so he is saved the next week b/c people power vote for him, I’ll be ticked. Haha…I know I know. Sorry.
I always hated that they arbitrarily stopped announcing the bottom two, so I’m glad it’s back. Also, Heidi, I think they did a real bottom two for half of season 10. I remember it was a real bottom two when Shannen, Buzz, Kate, and Pamela were eliminated. Not sure about Jake. The rest, if my memory is correct, were arbitrary call out orders.
Sorry, I’m new this season–what is the difference between “bottom two” and “in jeopardy”?
Roshon and Chelsie were just on upstream asking fans to power votes. 10 email accounts per fan. Well, I met that goal and then some and will be power voting from now on even if it means I go into work late on Tuesday for however many weeks it takes.
It is interesting that they are showing the real bottom 2. I will be interested to see if they have a increase in viewers for Tuesday’s show next.
Roshon needs to appeal to the viewers and showed a more appealing-likable side. Not sure if it is too late for that, hopefully not.
Hi, Marie! Welcome! To answer your question, when the hosts announce someone is “in jeopardy” they simply mean that their fate will be revealed at the end of the show. They typically do this for dramatic effect or to tease the audience a bit. The bottom 2 are just that, the bottom 2 teams with combined judges’ scores and votes. So, even if a team is announced as “in jeopardy,” they may be the highest scorer and vote getter, but TPTB want to create suspense until the end of the show. Hope you’re enjoying the show and this blog. It’s the best!
I like it too, sasa…it’s just surprising that they would go back to it after several seasons and lose their “drammmaaaa”.
Yeah, JustMe…it’s definitely something they normally use when wanting to make a point. Those people you mention are all people that they wanted to pimp in some way, or gain more drama from.
If I remember correctly, I think Heidi said that they first time they stopped revealing the real bottom 2 and started using the whole “in jeopardy” tactic was in season 5, the same week that Marie Osmond’s father died – it may have been a move to avoid adding insult to injury if she was in the real bottom 2 but not going home. They seemed to use it on & off between then & season 9, then they stopped using it in seasons 10-12 before bringing it back in the 2nd week of season 13, but then it wasn’t used again last season. Now we’re back to having it every week – it hasn’t been like this since week 6 of season 5. I’m kind of enjoying it, because it’s giving us a chance to test some of our theories about voting behavior and numbers, since we actually know who’s getting the votes and who isn’t.
Yeah, Court is remembering my old posts better than me again.
I do like the reveal of the bottom 2. It makes me know if I’ve got to vote more for my favorites the following week. It was interesting how Tom mentioned that the voting seemed to shift all night too.
Truly appreciate all the numbers data you all provide!!!! Now, I can estimate how many more email accounts I need to open:)
Since the dance-offs are a fait accompli at this point, I’m kind of looking forward to seeing how they implement their “brilliant idea”. Will it be the dance-off be the same length of time as a regular dance? Will it be latin one week and ballroom the next? Are the judges each going to give their score and the low scorer goes buh-bye or will The Three Stooges just confer and then have “Head Judge Goodman” deliver the verdict “Sorry, Charlie…”?
Carrie Ann tweeted that the Dancing duel will have the bottom 2 dance to same song and dance style at the same time.
Interesting which 3 stars got the Argentine Tango. Curious to see how learning 2 dances will affect everyone.
Would someone pretty please explain the comments RE: Cheryl’s “nasty shock” and focus/approach to this season? Unfortunately I haven’t been able to watch more than a few minutes a couple of weeks this season.
But I’m still trying to keep up with the juicy stuff, haha. Thank you!!
This issue may have been covered in the board discussion regarding the dance off last week, but I was wondering if the judges will continually save a “good” dancer week after week if that person is continually in the bottom two. You know that person ultimately is not going to make it to the finals because he or she won’t be picking up many, if any, votes from the fans of the celebrity who was kicked off in his or her place. Of course, there is a chance it could play out like American Idol last year. If I recall correctly, the contestant who placed third, Haley Reinhart, was in the bottom two for the first two or three weeks of the competition. Non-committed voters might come to respect someone who is put through the ringer a couple of times and give him or her their votes.
Holy Moly! I hope this Maks fan hit an extra zero by accident, but she tweeted that maybe if she would have split her 7,000 email accts and used 3,500 for Val, they’d (Val & Sherri) would have been safe. W-H-A-T???? How it that humanly possible to get 7,000 email accounts in at 10 votes each? Gee?
I dont see donald or william hitting bottom two, so I think the judges would save roshon (barring he falls on his face in the duel) over pretty much anyone not named katherine and maybe maria (i think not wanting to lose derek would factor into that also)…but it would be embarrassing for ole boy to hit the bottom two 3-4x in a row and have to be saved, so i hope for his sake 1 or 2 of those weeks consists of him scraping up enough votes to avoid the bottom 2.
@Sheery – That is ridiculous. Melissa is not very good and the thought that she could stay over someone else is quite disappointing. With or without the extra zero some of these Maks fans are just crazy….
Wow, 7000 e-mail accounts…I’m impressed.
Guess that PMS appellation is fully earned. Not to say other pros fans are not just as dedicated.
Not humanly possible to do – 7,000 accts is 70,000 votes. There is no way.
If she is managing it somehow…might I suggest that one get a life?? Seriously, the day that Derek needs me to vote that much for him is the day I say….”have a nice few weeks off, hope you get to do some pro dances. Buh buy.”
I might be a bad fan.
Y’know how some men tend to exaggerate when talking about the size of their…ahem?
I think this Maks/Val fan may be doing the same thing, except instead of genitalia, she’s bragging verified voting accounts. Probably trying to incite a case of email envy amongst other voters 
Yeah, I don’t think it’s physically possible, unless she and another person (or a few other people) are all voting from her pool of 7,000 accounts. The online voting is open for 15 hours, right? From the start of the show at 8 pm EST to 11 AM EST the next day? There are 60 minutes in an hour. 60 X 15 = 900. She would have 900 mintues to vote from 7,000 accounts. That gives her about 7.7 seconds to log in, vote, and log out from each account. No time for food, sleep, or bathroom breaks. 15 hours straight. Yeeeahhh…unless she’s a robot, The Flash, or a sparkly vampire, it’s a physical impossibility. Somebody’s fibbing.
@Courtney, LOL when everyone’s slammin’ the web site with their votes, it takes more than 7.7 seconds to just login. Yep, somebody’s fibbing *and* cray-cray.
I just watched this episode on Demand. What a great start: Kiss rocked, the dancers rocked, Karina and Maks hugging each other and Karina, Gavin, Maks and Melissa all safe. I’m warming up to Maks this season and I hope he and Melissa do well next week.
Just watched Karina’s amazing and hot dance. I’m rooting for her and Gavin. I hope he continues to improve.
@Cidra – Hell, even when they aren’t slamming the site with votes (i.e. 12 hours after the show has aired, when I’m doing my online voting), it still takes more than 7.7 seconds to log in and get a couple votes in. I would say, realistically, it takes about 3-5 minutes per account to log in, cast all of your votes, and log out, depending on what type of traffic you’re dealing with and how many votes you have available to cast. Even if you’re voting for 15 hours straight and not slowing down due to fatigue, you’re still only going to be able to get to about 300 accounts in that 15 hour time period. I say if you’re gonna fib, at least fib realistically
Although I wasn’t a fan of Sherry’s, I shed some tears for her. She gave a very gracious and encouraging elimination speech
I don’t mean to be pedantic (well, actually, I probably do mean to be pedantic), but there is a way to do that, and still have a life…. using a programming technique called “screen scraping”. Basically, you hook a program to your web browser that programmatically goes through all of the clicks. Signing up for 7K email accounts would be HUGE pain in the backside, but once you did it, you’d simply crank the program up, leave your computer turned on, and go to bed…. and let Mr. Computer plod through all of that voting by itself. That being said, it would still (IMO) take someone with SERIOUS issues (and a REALLY reliable Internet provider) to go to all that trouble…
@Court, ain’t that the truth.
@Sally, I had *no* idea about “screen scraping”. Ya learn something new every day here on Pure. Thanks!
Still, it boggles my mind 
that anyone would be so obsessed to go to those lengths to vote for their fave on DWTS.
@Cidra – Ditto on the boggling…
IMO, it takes a LARGE dose of cray-cray to do something like that, but unfortunately, it is possible…
@Sally – Well if I can be pedantic and calculate the speed at which one would need to move in order to vote with 7,000 email accounts, you by all means have the right to be pedantic and bring up this magic supervoting software
Which now has me curious…and no, it’s not because I intend to utilize it 
Is it expensive? Hard to use? Just kinda makes me curious if some people have discovered it and are using it to vote with already…or if the ABC folks have wised up and somehow found a way to thwart that kind of stuff.
Knowing what I know of the web site and what it takes to vote – I don’t see how this software can work all night long, unattended. I assume that it records the clicks and plays them back…well, what if the site slows down?? Is it made to slow down with the site? Actually THINK?? And how does it know to log in with all those screen names??
@Court – I’ll let Sally give the definitive answer, of course, but from reading her original post, I got the impression that this “screen scraping” is something that those who know how to write code do for themselves rather than a software product that you can download. On the other hand, some programmer could well have written the code and is now making it available online. It would be interesting to know if this is something that’s out there for those who know where to look and are obsessed enough to want to use it.
I’d be happy to take the discussion to email with Courtney and Heidi… don’t want to give anyone any ideas they don’t already have, but since you guys run a website, it’s something you’d be interested in. But just a couple of quick answers for the board:
Is it expensive? Nope, in fact, it’s free.
Hard to use? Subjective answer here – I think it’s pretty easy, at least for simple things.
What if the website slows down? Short answer is that won’t matter, except that the number of “interactions” (votes in this context) is dependent on the response time of the website.
Well, I don’t get how it logs in and logs out…but I don’t think I want to know.
That 70k votes isn’t likely enough to make a difference anyway, except to maybe keep someone one week longer. If 4 or 5 million votes are cast every week, that’s chump change.
Emphasis on the word chump.
Email sent to courtney@puredwts.com…