SPOILERS!!! DWTS Season 14, Week 5 – Who Got the Boot??
Dang, my number post is looking pretty good right now. 
Eh, don’t get used to it. I’ll probably blow it next week.
Anyway, after the obligatory chatter so that I don’t accidentally spoil anyone, Gavin and Jaleel did the dance duel and unfortunately, Jaleel was the clear winner…and the judges saved him.
What did we predict?? Well…
Heidi: I predicted Gavin would go with Melissa as an outside chance. However, I was reasonably confident that Roshon or Jaleel would be in the bottom two with Gavin, but that either one would beat him.
Courtney: Put Melissa at the bottom of her Power Rankings, thinking she might go home, but had Gavin as a possibility as well.
Vogue: Said that it would be Gavin and Gladys in the bottom two and that Gladys would lose.
And the winner is…well, no one, really. I’m totally bummed that Gavin went home and Jaleel is still there. However, my early prediction would be Jaleel and Roshon in the bottom two next week. As for Jaleel’s numbers, I’ll likely cover that in next weeks “Dancing by the Numbers” post, unless someone is dying for it now.
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Too bad. I wanted Gavin to hang around. My guess is that he’s opened some more career doors with his personality, though.
And is this dance-off aspect bogus or what?
That dance off was a no brainer and so predictable.
And Karina and her “I’ve got a secret”…. geez!!
Tom mentioned that the dance off is what they do in real ballroom competitions. Is that true
Can we have Jaleel’s numbers? Pretty, pretty please?
Doesn’t have to be tomorrow, though. ‘Cause you also happen to have a life outside of this blog, so it’s ok if it comes later in the week. I’m just curious to know how he’s doing, and if he might go home next week with the 2doulbe elimination” thing.
Yes, Jaleel won the dance duel fair & square, based on the judges’ claim that they would save the person who danced better in the duel. However – I would not say his cha-cha was particularly good. Seemed kinda sloppy, & without hip action – I think Donald, William, Katherine, Maria, & Roshon all could have beat him in the duel. EASILY. I hope this was a wake-up call that he needs to step up his game.
@Katy – There isn’t a dance-off in real ballroom competition, per se – but all the couples do dance on the floor at the same time. Unless it’s a show dance, in which case it’s just one couple at a time. That’s more like the regular weekly dances we see on DWTS.
I guess I meant that the dance-off is bogus for this show. If the scoring weren’t so batsh** crazy to begin with, I’d have more respect for the later manipulations to guide outcomes. IMO.
!ol, alright Jaleel! he’s staying! Imo, thought that Melissa and one of my favorites Ms. Gladys Knight might get the boot! So glad that the Judges have taken over, they should have taken over in season 11 imo!
Thing is though Court, he didn’t have to be better than anyone else than Gavin. I still wish Gavin could have stayed. This is going to be pretty predictable for the next few weeks. Sigh.
Since you asked so nicely, EL, I’ll try to do it.
Glad Jaleel is safe but he really needs to step up his game.
I’m wondering how did Melissa and Gladys beat out Jaleel in votes?
I was a little bit correct with my predictions lol because I predicted that Gavin would be in the bottom 2 and might go home.
:(:( lol
;);).
Before that duel even started, I already knew that Jaleel would be the winner because he was the better dancer.
Unfortunately, this is the nature of the show, someone has to leave.He has a sweet personality but he wasnt really a good dancer.
I was absolutely, STUNNED that Derek& Maria got the encore;I dont get all the love and I think that she was even worse during that 2nd dance.I really think that Derek is a judge’s favourite and I dont get all the blatant favoritism(I might sound like someone who doesnt like Derek but no I actually like him he has to be one of my fav.pro dancer on that show but I just dont like his partnership with Maria; He even said on his twitter that she is the best celeb he has ever danced with !!!Poor Brooke,Lil K, Nicole lol).
I guess I will be pretty pissed if she makes it to the final.My theory is that, to escape any accusation of blatant favouritism(for either Kath,Donald or William’s AT) the judges decided to go with the safest choice and let her and Derek do the encore.
In my opinion the final 3 should be Katherine,William,Donald and the order of who wins in that order. But I really dont think thats going to happen
Anyway I am really looking forward to next week dances.
I cant wait for Katherine’s and Mark Samba
I dont know what the others have.
Dang, I was really hoping for a Jaleel elimination. Let’s hope for next week.
And wow, Derek and Maria! That encore had “10″ written all over it tonight!! Wowza!!!!!
I will miss Gavin. Not the best dancer, but he worked hard, tried his best, respected the process, was fun to watch, and didn’t take himself too seriously. A gentleman and throughly nice person.
As an aside, how about the encore dance? I was laughing so hard after THAT kiss that I didn’t see the rest of it!!!! LOL
dwtsfan – Derek didn’t actually say that on twitter. He was out with Maria and she hacked his phone, as he tweeted a few minutes after he deleted the other tweets.
next week, if it is truly the double elimation week, will be very interesting!
@Marlene – I know, but I’m just saying that he should just consider himself lucky that it was Gavin he had to beat, and not one of the others I mentioned. He needs to step up his game if he expects to stand a chance against one of them in the duel.
I loved CAI saying “Uh oh” when she saw Derek coming – cracked me up. THAT is how you get the judges back for telling you not to kiss.
I know Court. The next few weeks will see Melissa, Jaleel and Gladys gone. Then it will get interesting.
Obviously they are trying to make the audience fall in love with Maria. It makes me wonder if ABC has plans for her in the future.
And Heidi, excellent with your Numbers post this week. I’m dying to know more on Jaleel’s numbers too.
Gotta wonder if the encore dance was a set up for entertainment value, as in the producers knew that the kiss was going to go elsewhere. Loved it! I think that was Maria’s boyfriend who took Dr. Drew’s place and was “dancing” with Maria at the beginning.
So sorry to see Gavin go!
My boyfriend said, “So, all of the fans that voted for Gavin like crazy last night were bascially told – screw you, your votes don’t count, huh?” Kind of have to agree with him on that one. How do we know that Jaleel didn’t have the lowest votes and should have been eliminated? I don’t know if I like this dance off and putting so much in the judges (producers) hands.
I dunno, I kind of got this “lazy” feel from Gavin. My mom was complaining all night about how she thought Gavin’s attitude was awful. But he had a good ride.
I need some cheese to go with this Whine….
Dr. Drew had a short clip of that on his show tonight. And a viewer asked him if he was planning on doing the show… Too funny. But he did say vote for Maria.
Thank goodness that tonight Maria opted out of wearing that Big Yellow Feather Headpiece, I thought it was so distracting. It reminded me of an old I Love Lucy episode.
I’m just going to say that I don’t like the dance off. the premise of the show all along has been judges get half, voters get half. So it sometimes doesn’t go the way they want? Tough cookies. It sucks, but that’s the way the show was built and promoted. I bet there’s a bunch of voters out there right now saying, why bother voting?
This season is starting to wear thin on me after such a promising start. The dance off is just silly. I don’t know if Gavin got more votes to stay over Jaleel, but I sure would have liked to have found out instead of watching a stupid dance off where surprise, the better dancer got to stay. What ticks me off is that some of the underdogs this year are more enjoyable to watch than some of the good dancers. Just a buzz kill seeing Gavin go over Jaleel who I am not fond of.
What is really bothering me is how Melissa Gilbert is avoiding the bottom 2. I think she is a terrible dancer. I really don’t think she has that many diehard fans either. And I find her to be the most forgettable of all the couples. I remember nothing from her dances other than they were pretty bad. I truly believe Maksim has developed such a large fan base and many of them are so…umm sadistic in power voting for him regardless of the strength of his partner, that Melissa may survive the dance off all together. That’s really the only way in my opinion to explain why she has avoided the bottom 2 giving such lackluster forgettable performances. I truly believe if Sherri or Martina had Maksim they’d still be in the competition. I’m wondering how many more entertaining couples will have to go home for Maks fans to feel satisfied. After 9 weeks of being subjected to Hope Solo I shudder to think of the possiblities. Oh well.
I can’t even think of how silly next week will get with a double elimination. What are they gonna do, have 4 couples dance off? Just absurd.
Sounds like Jaleel pulled a “Roshon” this week. Couples lower than him beat him out in the voting and he ended up in the bottom two.
Gavin is a class act.
I guess it matters who is in the dance-off. If Gavin were a complete jerk week after week, we’d be cheering the results. Not so great when your nice guy or gal gets the boot, is it? But I still say it’s baloney that the judges get to decide AFTER voting.
Meggie, Derek and Maria’s dance was the dance being talked about over the media – it was an obvious choice, IMO. I think Derek might have given the producers a clue what he was going to do, since they were in a wider shot than they were last night when he went in for the kiss and they normally stay the same.
Then again, Katherine said they didn’t do a kiss in rehearsal, so maybe the zoom last night was a late call. Hmmm…it was an awkward kinda zoom….but they are muppets. Who knows?
Jo, that’s what I’ve been saying all along. It is (or could be) a screw you to which ever dancer ends up going home. I see why they’re doing it, but I don’t think it has real long term benefits. I can see it backfiring unless they over score the top four couples EVERY week – and that will backfire as well.
lets say roshon & jaleel guaranteed bottom two
but i think the third could be gladys, melissa, and outside chance maria
(donad/william will never be in the bottom, and i think they will give katherine a thirty for falling on her face in the samba because they have gotta protect at least one of their “good dancer-? fanbase”)
these three all have partners with infamous rabid fanbases (derek, maks, and newly tristan (+legend Motown week for gladys nostalgia votes)…that leads me to thinking there is a very small outside chance of bottom 3 of…
jaleel, roshon, and maria with a double elimination
and that ladies and gentlemen is a duel not to be missed!
Andrea, that’s how the show works. There is no rule that prevents people from power voting for Melissa. Frankly, I greatly prefer her getting through on votes than the judges just randomly saving people.
That said…she really didn’t need but 9k votes to beat out Jaleel. Since Roshon wasn’t in the bottom two we don’t know if she was doing better than anyone other than Gavin and Jaleel. She didn’t need a lot to stick around. Next week will be a better test.
I gotta say that I really don’t like the Dance Duel. It was far too awkward watching two couples dance at the same time on a split screen. Overall, I think I like the idea of keeping the better dancers, I just wish they would do it in a better way.
As for Maria and Derek getting the encore, keep in mind the judges don’t always choose the best dance of last night. That’s been an assumption for a long time, and it’s not correct. Maria and Derek were full of energy, brought attention, they were fun, and captured the Latin feel brilliantly. That’s probably why they got chosen. As awesome as Donald, Katherine, and even William were last night, I don’t think an AT is always the best encore to kick off the show. It’s got to be amazing for it to make it to an encore.
Very sad to see Gavin go. He may have been the weakest dancer left, but he really gave it his all and he opened up and improved throughout the season. Great guy and very funny. Definitely has a new fan in me. I seriously would’ve kept him over Jaleel, but unfortunately Jaleel did out dance him fairly. I just hope whoever is in the bottom next week beats him.
The only problem I had with this week’s Dance Duel is like you Will, I would’ve kept the other guy… sigh… Here’s hoping that next week, the bottom 2 consists of Jaleel and William. ::mrevil::
Dang it! Tried the “evil” smiley, and blew it..
Wow, I loved Menough’s encore dance, especially the spoof with CAI and Bruno about the kiss. Hilarious! Derek is such a wonderful entertainer. And the confessional where Maria says Bruno can join in: I loved Derek’s expressions and comment: “you’re on your own with that one, babe”. He just cracks me up. Sad about Jaleel staying and Gavin going; that Dance Duel was strange, Jaleel won it although I don’t really think he is a good dancer. Random thought: I kinda miss the witty retorts of Tristan and Nancy Grace. He doesn’t seem to have as much of a chance to be funny with Gladys.
They really need to work on the dance duel! It was difficult to watch both couples and see anything. Maybe it should last longer? In dance competitions it is easier to see the couples somehow than the DWTS split screen. Maybe they could go 20 seconds one couple, 20 seconds the other couple, 20 seconds the first couple, etc. Unfortunately, Jaleel was the slightly better dancer. I will miss Gavin and Karina.
Heidi, didn’t they also stop the music at “kiss time” so Derek and Maria could run over and do their thing? I think TPTB had it all planned out to pick up on the “buzz”.
I also think if Gavin had been even remotely close in the duel he would have gotten the nod, but he unfortunately wasn’t close at all.
@Sally – lol
and seriously – my dvr cut out, but did Maria have a bit of a wardrobe malfunction there at the end of the dance?!
@yo – I REALLY hope you are wrong about the bottom 3. Two of my top three are in your bottom.
er.. um I just read that back and that didn’t sound quite right. Two of my favorite dancers are dancers that you picked for the dance-off. There, does that sound less rated r?
@ beka LOL!!
yeah, i hope im wrong also because i love roshon and chelsie, and believe maria and derek deserve to be here…but the way things could shake up is a bit frightening
@Sandy: I suspect that Karina said that to Gavin just to loosen him up before they danced. But I could have lived without the producers sharing that little moment with us.
Gavin had one of the classiest exits in DWTS history, IMO. Always took criticism with a smile, worked hard, respected his partner and had a blast. I was a fan of his music before, but now I call myself a fan of HIM!
As for the encore, I was thoroughly entertained, and I didn’t think it was the best dance at all. But it was fun! I gotta disagree with some of y’all saying that Derek is “attention-grabbing,” etc. I don’t see that at all. I find his chemistry with Maria to be fun and light. Maria is another one that seems to be enjoying the experience as well. I dig them!
@DW, I had to giggle about your comment re: Tristan’s and Nancy’s witticisms. I’ll have to agree to disagree. It was cute at first but as the weeks wore on, the “old-married-couple” gag got a bit old to me. I love his relationship with Gladys. He is clearly starstruck with her but they always look like they’re having them time of their lives out there. Enjoying while I can because I think the clock is running on those two…
Alright, time to go listen to some Gavin on my I-pod…
Kym seemed sad that Gavin went home too… It looked to me like Jaleel attempted to cop a feel of the right awesome boobage after the duel.
Oh and did it look like Kym and Jaleel were going to have to dance with Brooke and/or Tom in their half of the floor for a minute?
I agree with Andrea in that I enjoyed some of the underdogs more than some of the better dancers. Gavin was one of the weakest dancers but he was my favorite. I truly believe he tried really hard but hes just not a natural dancer. Unlike some weak dancers, he wasn’t hard to watch and in fact quite pleasant to watch. I knew he didn’t have a chance against Jaleel, who is becoming more unpleasant to watch.
It seems to me that the weaker dancers got stuck with a difficult dance, the samba.
I will miss Gavin and Karina. Derek, btw, is my absolute favorite professional, but I’ve enjoyed Karina and her partnerships the past few seasons
I’m sad that Gavin went. Jaleel is a bit of a creepster now. It looked like Mark and even Chelsie were a either disappointed or pissed that Gavin left and they wanted Jaleel gone. Based on their facial expressions and body language, it seems like there is bad mojo between jaleel and some of the pros.
The others must have really like Gavin-those were nice hugs all around.
Steve, Mark was sittiing next t Jaleel at one point last night.
Sorry to see Gavin go. He was a good guy. But, I think he was relieved to be going. I may be wrong, but it seemed to me, he was ready to get back to focusing on his tour. And maybe he has opened some career doors. He’ll be in my city on May 27th, and I had no plans to go to his concert, but now, I think I will. He’s gained a fan. I’ve always liked his “I Don’t Want To Be” Plus he’s touring with Colbie Caillait, and she is one of my favorites.
I’ve noticed that every week, there are predictions that Melissa is going home, but I don’t think she’s ever been in jeopardy, much less the bottom two. Guess the judges are doing their part to make that happen, but so far it isn’t working. If this dance off doesn’t work, can’t wait to see what they come up with next.
A night of mixed emotions. Sad for Gavin, but glad they’re trying to showcase the better dancers.
Ha ha – after watching last night’s results show and reading viewers comments both here and the DWTS site, I think ABC and the producers need to have two separate shows: DANCING with the Stars and POPULARITY Contest of the Pros. The way it is now it seems no one is happy. And then there’s the ratings issue…has this show jumped the shark? I hope not, I actually watch it for the dancing but I may be in the minority.
Lee, the music stopped on night one too – I think Derek probably told Harold what he was going to do because he clearly motions to him to go again. In fact…he might have done that on the performance show too, but I would have to go back and look. I doubt very much that TPTB planned for Derek to do that, but they may have given the green light. That actually seems just like something Derek would do.
I dunno, Magnolia, I think Gladys has another week in her at least – beyond next week I mean. Then I fully expect her to get Ralphed. I actually expect Maria to get seriously Ralphed if she’s still there going into the semi-final. The judges are getting rather predictable about that sort of thing. I called it in week 3 and I’m calling it again now to happen after next week.
Then again, Maria has Foxtrot, which she has potential to be brilliant at, and I think I saw that Melissa FINALLY gets a nice slow ballroom dance. With these sorts of dances finally coming up, the leader board could be interesting.
Susie – warning. We don’t talk about the DWTS boards here. It’s full of crazy children. We don’t want to hear about their issues.
Sorry
Interesting Heidi. Then who will be the double evictees? That is the question. I kinda thought she would be one of them.
Tristan had mentioned earlier in the season about his mum coming to the show, I hope they are not eliminated before then.
As far as Melissa, she is just not good and this pairing just seems awkwardly strained, something is just not right. Please, Please, TPTB give Maks a breaky-break.
Was it just me, or did Kym look like she wanted to scream when the judges saved her and Jaleel? I just get this feeling he is creeping her out. I was so ready to like him at the beginning of the season, but there’s just something about him that makes me feel uncomfortable… That being said, their cha cha was marginally better IMO.
I thought maybe Gavin was somewhat relieved to be eliminated, but I will miss watching him. I think I liked his packages more than his dancing!
Did Tristan put his tongue into Gladys ear while they were standing on stage waiting to hear they were safe?
And, to someone above, I did see the wardrobe malfunction after Maria and Derek finished the dance.
You didn’t know, susie. We just hate hearing about their crazy so we pretty much discourage talking about them.
I think the double evictees will be Jaleel and either Melissa or Roshon…maybe Gladys. So much hinges on the judges scores that it’s really just guessing at this point. But both Roshon and Jaleel have officially been in the bottom two, Roshon even after having the second highest score of the night. It’s not unreasonable to expect that, with Gavin gone, they are even more likely to land in the bottom two. It also depends on how they do the double elimination.
@Lori – yes! I saw that too. Tristan’s getting cheeky. I always wonder what he is saying to her during elimination time because it looks like he is chatting away. I wish the mics would pick that up. guessing a bunch of Irish fun.
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I will miss Gavin, and especially Karina, but I was starting to think it was their time. I’m can’t wait to see the dances next week. I love Motown, so it will hopefully be an exciting show for me. As much as I like both Melissa and Maks (not as a dancing pair, Melissa as an actress, Maks as a dancer) I really hope they go next week. I would choose them and Jaleel. I’m pulling for a top three of Roshon/Donald/Katherine, but I have a feeling Roshon won’t make it there. I really don’t think Maria, William or Gladys is good enough to be in the finale, but if I had to choose one to replace Roshon I suppose I would go with Maria.
Tristan is definitely a pro that cocoons his star. I mean that as a compliment.
Okay, I’m ready for anything that comes my way with what I’m going to say…
Yes, I will miss Gavin. No, he wasn’t a really good dancer, but he seems to embody what this show is about, and I LOVE his attitude that he had throughout his whole run.
(that’s not it…)
While the 3 stooges were talking about the Dance Duel, and why they’re doing it, they listed some celebrities that they were upset were eliminated before the judges felt they should be. And, the producers used 2 clips…. And BOTH celebrities that they “just happened” to use, HAD MARK AS A PARTNER! There are SEVERAL celebrities that they could have used, why on earth did they use Mark both times? Yes, Sabrina was a given, because that is the one that started getting people upset about “too early eliminations.” They should have used, I feel, someone else…. Brandy and Maks would have been perfect, I think.
And I think I need to leave it at that, for now, because this could get way too long and a lot more mean and snarky than I want to be.
Jay, Tristan definitely “cocoons” Gladys. Someone mentioned that he is awestruck by Gladys, I think Gladys is as protective and respectful of Tristan. Best relationship between partners that I have seen on dancing with the stars. They have so much fun with each other. They just “get” each other. I loved when she talked about the schedule they had over the past week. She said “he is tough, Tristan is. I am tough, Gladys is” or something like that. They are my favorite couple in the personality department.
Not sad to see Gavin go–his persona got on my nerves and Karina has a win under her belt now.
I am just about over Maks and hope Melissa goes next. It seems she has the ability to do the steps but never looks like she is enjoying herself. If he’d choreograph better to her strengths, maybe she could loosen up. And it never seems like they’re dancing together–he’s going full on and she’s desperately trying to catch up. Unlike the delightful Gladys and Tristan.
@Lori…didn’t they use a clip of Chynna/Tony, too? I could have sworn I saw one.
@Jay and @Faye – I noticed that with Tristan last season. When he and Nancy were being critiqued, he would wrap his arm around her if the judges were being overly critical or harsh. He does it with Gladys too, especially during elimination time. I love that about him!
And yes, I think they do have a fun relationship. I’ve said he was starstruck by her, but he’s said that himself. But they respect each other so much and just have fun with it. I really like that attitude he takes with his partners, the “just have fun and enjoy it” attitude.
@Will Totally agree the split screen was awkward! I kind of wish they had just panned out and let us pick who to watch based on their ability to attract attention (more like what you have to do at a real ballroom competition). The screen along with the lighting had my eyes going a little crazy.
That said I didn’t really mind the dance off. If they had picked the lesser dancer because he was the nicer guy then I think it would have been more upsetting than the way it turned out. More dancing in the results show (that isn’t like the Selena Gomez number) is so far a good thing IMO.
@Violet, yes…. They used clips of all 3 when they mentioned the names, but they used the audio and clip of the eliminations of only Sabrina and Kristin.
Ah, I gotcha. Sorry!
Ooops just posted this on the wrong post! Did anyone else just see Sherri mention on The View that based on the new system Jaleel won’t be in danger of elimination next week. Is she just making this stuff up, that can’t be true right!? For someone so enthusiastic about the show, she sure seems confused about the details.
No, Lori…they did mention Chynna Phillips. I just re-watched it to check.
What I found is odd is they seem to think that KristinCav would have been like a Sabrina or a Brandy…what? And as far as Chynna, she was voted off probably because she forgot her steps and didn’t have a large enough fan base.
Makes you wonder why they skipped over season 13. It would have gotten Chaz, Carson, Nancy, and Hope off the show when they should have been—must earlier.
Okay, you mean the actual elimination when Tom says their names….probably because everyone (even CP & TD) expected them to get the boot after her brain freeze. Considering others in recent memory like Bristol and Kirstie have forgotten steps and made it to the finals…..ugh.
It sooo annoyed me that they used clips of Kristin and Chynna when explaining the dance-off – I mean, Sabrina was a true travesty, but Chynna forgot most of her routine, and Kristin was never as good as they made her out to be.
Gladys & Tristan are just a joy to see together – he really is incredibly supportive of his partners. I loved hearing him cheering her on during the dance.
There’s NO WAY they would make the winner of the dance-off automatically safe the next week.
Sherri just said on the View that Jaleel won the dance duel and it safe from elimination NEXT week….huh?
I thought Gavin & Karina would be on today, but it sounded like Whoopie said Jaleel is on–that’s odd.
Yup, they just said Jaleel is on…hmm? Gavin will be on another day.
I was waiting to see what the Dance Duel actually looked like before forming a final opinion about it. So now I have an opinion. I don’t really like it,either. It seems to me, if the voters vote in a way that sends a good dancer home, it is something we will have to live with. After all, that is the way the voting is set up…we all know that, and understand our responsibility. If a good dancer just is not connecting, then that is up to us (the viewers) to take care of it. And if some folks decide to vote from 5 phones and 10 email addresses, there is nothing we can do about that. In fact, that would/could probably keep their star out of the bottom two anyway. I agree with most of you, the Dance Duel is probably going to end in disaster, like sending Roshon home instead of Jaleel. Even if the end result would have eliminated Bristol over Brandy (which would have made me happy), it just is not the way we want the show to work. It is just too much big brother-ish for me…the idea that they know what is best for us. Not a good direction. My two-cents anyway.
@sheery – Sherri doesn’t know what she’s talking about. There’s been no mention of any special rule that keeps someone immune from elimination the week AFTER they’ve been in the duel. Seems counterproductive to the supposed motivated behind the duel – that it keeps good dancers from going home. If Jaleel was immune from elimination next week (even if he dances like sh*t) due to his dueling this week, it would likely just force another good dancer into the duel – possibly Roshon. Doesn’t make much sense to me. If anything, I would think Jaleel would be in MORE danger of getting eliminated next week, since he’s already made one appearance in the bottom 2 and there are 2 people getting the ol’ heave-ho next week.
@Twickenham – I think they really should have included Brandy in that lineup of good dancers that got sent home too soon. To me, she was a good example of someone that didn’t really do anything wrong, danced pretty damn good, and still went home while a crappy dancer (Bristol) remained. And guess whose fault that was? The judges, who were far too kind in their scoring of Bristol. So what do we do to remedy that? Give the judges even MORE power. I love how counterintuitive this show is…
I think that next week’s leaderboard is going to be very interesting
;);).
and Jaleel.
I have a feeling that Gladys will be sahe.She has the votes + combined with Tristan’s votes:).
So I think that if Jaleel doesnt step up his game, he is going to find himself in the bottom 2 again.
I seriously dont know how Melissa is still in the competition,she cant be that popular,cant she? I think it has more to do with Maks’s fanbase than hers.
I know its still early, but my predictions for the 2 people who will go home next week are : Roshon
Melissa and Maria are fortunate becase they have ballroom dances next week and I think that it should suit them more.
I agree with those who said that Chelsie and Mark didn’t look too pleased with Jaleel being saved/Gavin’s elimination. Moreover, Kym didn’t look too happy considering she was part of the saved couple. Gavin has definitely left a great impression on the entire cast — I’m sad to see him go…
I love how some like the dance duel only as long as their favorites aren’t affected. I personally hate it even at the expense of my favs. It’s just too much manipulation, IMO. I think there’s something for everyone to hate about it. I agree completely about the Brandy/Bristol elim issue. The judges created that all by themselves by coddling Bristol and over scoring her ….anyone remember that gorilla suit? They had to manupulate things to insure that her mom would show up in the audience.
While the judges are absolutely to blame for the Bristol thing, I think he producers the other night were talking about people who left REALLY early. I don’t think they would consider only making the semi-final and not the final as being eliminated way early.
But really, sometimes trying to figure them out is like trying to figure out why Animal plays the drums.
#Princess ” But really, sometimes trying to figure them out is like trying to figure out why Animal plays the drums. ”
Whoo, you just gave me a headache! LOL I may wonder about many things but never thought about that.
I really hope that Mark learned his lesson and that we dont see any other “crazy costumes” this season with Katherine. I really want them to go far.
:).
I really like how creative he is with his ideas but sometimes they scare me lol lol
The list of peopl eliminated too early was OK but they missed Racehl Hunter in season 1, Tia Carrere, Brandy, Cameron Mathison, jenny garth, Toni Braxton, Lil’ Kim, etc (these came to mind immediately). Anyways it was a good results show. dance duel was soemthing alright lol. Not gonna lie I was rooting for Gavin BUT the judges were right choosing jaleel they could just tweek it a bit to make it work better. something about how it was done seemed odd. Also, Derek leaving Maria there and going for carrie ann was pretty funny. Carrie Ann really should have expected that after her comment Monday lol. Lastly, this ballroom battle thing. LOVE the concept but not the execution.
On a side note, I think the producers should try getting Sheila E. to compete next season! If that what she can do with a drum/drum set then just imagine how much rhyrhem she possiblr could have as a dancer.
@Andrea: I’ll take Mellissa over Hope Solo any day. Melissa isn’t the best dancer but she is genuine and is actually pretty funny in the rehersal footage (intentional or uninteanional i don’t know). Plus, she is tough so I think this is a reat match for Maks (the best match he has had since Kirstie, Mel B, and Laila who were tough as well….especially Laila lol)
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Well, I’m definitely hoping that Jaleel winds up getting the boot next week, Sherri Shepherd’s extensive DWTS knowledge notwithstanding…
Jaleel couldn’t sustain the advantage of a 3-point lead over Melissa, or a 2-point lead over Gladys. Gladys, I understand. But Melissa? IMO, that makes Jaleel’s fan base really questionable, and I don’t think he’s helping himself with his press interviews… I’m thinking his best approach is a pretend case of laryngitis, lasting as long as he stays on DWTS. Just smile, nod, and let Kym do all the talking.
@Sally: As much as I hate to say it he should do good next week. I think I remeber someone syaing he has waltz next week and he is much better at ballroom than latin.
Vin – There you go again, messing up my dreams with actual, honest-to-goodness reality!!!!!
Crap-crap-crap, that does NOT make me a happy camper! 
@Sally And keep his hands to himself…
@Sally: I was hoping he would get something that he wouldn’t do so good at (like lets say paso since his tango was a bust). I think that two ceelbs are getting dances that aren’t good fits for them next week 1) Gladys has a jive…………this is not going to be pretty 2)katherine has a samba…………….i liked her jive but samba is the real party dance w tons of enery and i just don’t see ehr doing well at it. The rest have dances that will work for them (especially roshon…he has jive so all that energy will work in his favor)
I still am holding out hope for a Maria, Roshon, and Donald final
Nothing against Katherine but I’d rather see a chelsie freestyle becuase this might be her only chance and we all know how i feel about william lol but for those who don’t i think overscoring him is anmnyoing and he isn’t that great but i loved his AT so there ya go lol
@vin – Oh no you didn’t say that…. LOL Loved William’s AT…. You are a brave soul…
@Vin
Being a Roshon fan, I’m happy that he has the jive because it’s a youthful, non-sexy dance. However, the judges have been known to criticize a jive for being “too energetic.” Roshon will have to work on controlling his energy in this dance. Chelsea stated in her first OTRC interview this week that Len merely reinforced in his critique of Roshon’s salsa what she’s been telling him all along, i.e., that he needs to demonstrate more control in his dances. Roshon is a good student, so I think he will definitely being working on that this week.
This is off-topic, but now that the men have ripped off their shirts to bare their chests, are they going to do the same with their pants? Are we going to see a Chippendale-esque finale between Donald, William and either Derek or Mark?
@vin & Sally – Well, even if Jaleel dances well, there’s no guarantee that it will keep him out of the bottom 2 – I thought he did reasonably well this week, and that didn’t protect him. Ditto for Roshon last week. I think if there’s one thing we’ve learned so far this season, it’s that good dancing will not necessarily guarantee you stick around. And if it’s Jaleel & Roshon in the duel together next week – I daresay the judges will likely save Roshon, who I find to be the better technician.
@Vin (#96) Where did you hear that Gladys has the jive? I don’t think I’ve heard it said anywhere what they have next week. Just curious…thanks!
@Courtney I hate to say it but I was really hoping that Roshon would be in the bottom two last night because I’m pretty confident that he’d knock Jaleel out in a duel.
I can’t say that I’m shocked by Jaleel not getting enough votes. I’m not sure if it’s due to the negative publicity, the creep factor, or that others are just getting a ton more votes. Also, ot that this means much in the big scheme of voting on DWTS, but I don’t see too many of Jaleel’s celebrity friends supporting him and asking their followers to vote for him like others. I thought it was hysterical that Dule Hill from Psych was there Monday to see Jaleel, but Dule ended up tweeting more about Cheryl than Jaleel.
Yeah and where are u guys hearing roshon has the jive? In the afterbuzz interview he said rumba. Did it change?
@Magnolia: They said it on my local news in the morning. Saying that take it with a grain of salt since they also said that jaleel danced a cha cha on monday and had to dance another for the dance duel. (damn channel 9) but other times they get things right so idk.
*channel 5. phonel ikes changing 9 to 5 for some reason.
It’s a shame Gavin left, but was fair. And I preffered him than Jaleel.
Overall, I liked Dance Duel… was so tense… ahahahaha
I don’t know how I feel about Roshon doing the rumba. He definitely can handle the hip action, leg extensions and fluid arm movements of the dance, and the dance will also force him to slow down and learn to control his movements better. However, doesn’t the rumba also usually involve some movements or steps where the male dancer bears the weight of the female dancer? That’s where Roshon is weakest as a dancer (both literally and figuratively). I guess I should plan on watching him in the dance duel next week unless his fanbase exponentially rises, which ain’t going to happen given the dance he will be doing. He and Chelsie can’t sexify it up like Derek and Maria to create interest because they look too young and viewers would be offended. Oh well, I guess this means I will be spending more time this weekend creating some more email accounts.
@yo: Just saw i said jive and not rumba fml. yeah he has rumba. What I meant to say was “he has rumba so all that energy will work in his favor”. Rumba always looks like the most phsyically exhausting out of the dances since there is constant movement and shapes to create and lines to worry about.
I’ve been thinking about the Dance Duel from last night, wondering how much the Judges REALLY based their decision on just the duel…. I can imagine them talking about it, discussing probable scenarios that could arise….
Also, I do understand why they split screened and having them dance at the same time, but this un-dance-educated viewer/fan thought it a bit hectic. Honestly, my thoughts about the duel was that I liked Karina’s costume more than Kym’s, and I remember a lot of Flying Fringe. I don’t think I know how well Jaleel danced because I don’t remember seeing him. I did see Kym, or her fringe…. Courtney, when did she wear that before? Was Karina’s new or retooled?
Anyway, I do remember seeing Gavin in his Duel Dance… Wishing he could have stayed, he seems to have a very calm, gentle spirit that was good for the whole show.
I’ll miss our sweet, goofy, gentlemanly Gavin.
This dance duel wasn’t a real test of the judges. I would rather have seen Gavin and Melissa, or Melissa and Gladys dance off. Everyone knew who was going as soon as they announced the bottom two. And as much as I like Gavin and dislike Jaleel, it was the right “dance-based” decision.
Court – I *like* the way you think!
I’m just being a curmudgeon today… pondering the notion that, as the overall number of points shrinks (due to couples being voted off), the percentage difference of 1 judges point increases. I’m probably not explaining it worth a darn, so please let me try again – What I mean is that a 1-point difference with 200 judges points overall is only 0.5%, but a 1-point difference with just 100 points is now 1%, so it doubles the voting spread… blech. 
@Vin: Gladys might have the jive, but neither she nor Tristan have said. They usually don’t until the weekend, sneaky people!
Tristan did say he wants a “fast” dance for this week, but to my knowledge, the only “fast” dances they have left are the jive and the salsa. They also have paso, waltz, V. waltz and A. Tango left as well, if I’m counting everything right.
Guess we’ll have to wait on one of them (probably Gladys) to let the cat out of the bag, lol!
@Magnolia : I am assuming that jive would be bad for her to be honest. But every dance she has left seems like something she won’t get higher than an 8 on lol.
I agree with Heidi- I don’t think you can say making top 5 or top 4 is getting eliminated too early just because youre an awesome dancer. Yes I would have preferred Brandy in the finals over Bristol but coming in fourth is not a travesty compared too potentially excellent dancers who leave in the first 3 or 4 eliminations while other clearly less talented people stay on (does any one remember Albert Reed and Anna’s partnership- now I’m not saying he was the second coming of dance but I thought he was pretty good in the time he was there and such a cutie so I wish there had been a dance duel then to keep him safe hahahah)
I’m down with the men losing their pants, but Derek will never do that. The others?? Possibly. Mark has already worn those very short red shorts Which Derek though was insane (and I agreed), so he might as well have had nothing on.
Heidi, I doubt Tristan would either.
You know, when I hear Tristan’s name I even think in a Irish accent??
Yeah, I forgot about him. He and Derek seem quite similar in temperament. Especially after Tristan was sticking his tongue in Gladys ear??
Kinda wanted Roshon to do the jive but still excited he got the rumba. I can see their music being something along the lines of Endless Love. I think it will be a PG-13 (very sweet, romantic)rumba which works for me. They already showed that sweet, romantic connection in their V. Waltz. William also has rumba so that will be interesting how these rumbas compare.
Sad seeing Gavin go last night. Seemed liked a nice guy!! The next couple of weeks definitely have me worried for the contestants.
#67 Lori, I said the same thing about them showing two of Mark’s partners eliminated being eliminated early. IMO-They could have used Lil Kim and Derek which was a shocking elimination as well as Brandy and Maks, the more recent and shocking elimination. Surprised they used Kristin-seriously-LOL
Lori – I thought the same thing when I saw it as well. Makes me wonder if that was a clear message to viewers to vote for Mark. Maybe Katherine is not pulling in the votes. Because Katherine seriously would be a *shock* elimination.
Im afraid that Roshon will be in the bottom 2;unless some people took pity on him and rally to really vote for him.
;)
The rumba is a tough dance;it exposes you.We can see everything, so unless he dances very well, he is going to be at the bottom of the leaderboard next week.
Well, he can always surprise me and really nail that dance, you never know
Katherine in the bottom 2 will truly be a shock elimination for me because I think that she is the best dancer in this competition and deserve to be in the final.
:(
And I agree with you guys, because I think that, the video which highlighted the elimitation of Mark’s previous partners, might be a “subliminal message”(maybe she is not getting enough votes
Because if we want to talk about shocking eliminations:Sabrina, Lil Kim directly spring to mind.
They really need to come out next week and WOW us with their samba otherwise…..Im sure she can do it!
By the way since next week is double elimination, does anyone know how it will work? Will it be 3 or 4 people with the lowest vote in the bottom 2 and will there be a dance duel???
dwtsfan – JMO, but if either Roshon or Katherine wind up in the bottom 2, they’ll definitely get the benefit of the “Judge’s Save”. The only “nightmare scenario” for you would be if BOTH Roshon and Katherine wound up in the SAME bottom 2, or if Roshon wound up on the bottom after the fans vote next week.. with the 3 Stooges over-scoring Katherine and William, I doubt either of them will wind up in that kind of jeopardy.
@ Sally – That’s what I’ve been wondering. If they are having a double elimination AND a dance-off, um, what’s the point of having a bottom 2. Are we going to have a bottom half? a three way dance off?
It is just damn unfair to have Roshon going against William in the Rumba. poo. I would SO rather have Roshon in the finale. –
and just as an afterthought – I’m a SYTYCD fan to, and Chelsie was my favorite of season 4. Her costume on Monday was so similar to the costume she wore for her salsa with Mark – even a bit of the choreography was the same.
dang, I do not know how to post a link without it doing the whole thing. sorry.
Lol, maybe their might be a shocking elimination, it won’t be the 1st time. So what happens, happen.
I too was sorry to see Gavin go but it was a very obvious choice. With the double elimanation coming next week I can only hope Jaleel gets sent home first. I think Melissa or Gladys could be in the dance duel. The judges will overscore everyone else. I enjoy watching Tristan but he seems so restricted in what he can do because of Gladys’s age that I really can’t imagine them being around much longer. I also miss the feistiness that he & Nancy had. Gladys and him are having fun but its all very boring for me. I’ve even been tempted to vote for Maks again which I did before Tristan came around lol!!
Last time they did the dance dance duel with a double elimination – someone said Season 9, I would have to look – they eliminated the low vote getter, then the next lowest two had the dance duel and the judges picked. That makes the most sense, otherwise you would have a bottom four and that’s half the freakin’ cast.
well you know if there’s rumbas and there’s smokey u r gonna get cruisin’, which will pretty much guarantee whoever gets that song (William most likely) a built-in advantage…talk about baby-making music! Although i think roshon is the better dancer and can pull off a better early-day smokey (who in my opinion looks just like an older version of roshon’s dad), they will probably give it to william b/c it might be a little to sexy for disney…
Just what William needs this week another dance to make him look sexy and hot… The audience pumped and ready to go… GAG ME!
I might be the only one who thinks Jaleel being in the bottom two and doing the dance duel helped him. If you think about it he’s been overshadowed by the hunky hot guy and the football player. People were excited about “Urkel” in the beginning but since focus have shifted to the others. Jaleel and Kym fans will be voting harder than ever and Motown night is next week…right up Jaleel’s alley. I see Melissa, Gladys, Roshon, or Maria in the bottom next week with Katherine being a possible surprise.
Just my opinion here Brit, but I think part of the issue with Jaleel is that something seems so icky about him. Like some (not all) on this site, I initially thought Jaleel could win it all. I thought he had presence, a good sense of humor, did it for his Mom – I thought he had the “whole package”. But then came the *still* open rumors of the “blow-up”, an explanation that it was all because “she didn’t get Stephan Urquelle”, a REALLY inappropriate re-tweet indicating Kym was performing sex acts on him prior to the show, the fake crying, the notion that Stephan, NOT his daughter, was the “most important story” for him, and now the utterly DISRESPECTFUL display of grab-ass on last Monday’s show…. No, I don’t think the Dance Duel helped him; I don’t care about “overshadowing”. I think his 15-minutes of “re-gifted fame” courtesy of DWTS should come to an end. But like I said, that’s just my opinion.
@Sally – Not only tweeting, but just speaking as well. Icky…. Once he opens his mouth. Yikes!
I said it before but I find it also inappropriate that Maks gets away with pinching Tom’s butt. I find that offensive as well, and frankly I am surprised that Tom tolerates it.
Sandy – Speaking it? He said it?
I guess what I should be surprised about is that I keep being surprised about how low that low-life can be…
Oh no Sally, he didn’t repeat anything. What I meant was everything that comes out of his mouth is icky, yucky.. He turns me off once he starts speaking.. Sorry for the confusion.
Oh, sorry Sandy.
I guess I have to take back “Strike 17″ against Jaleel, then… 
But ITA with you about him, his mouth, and icky.
While I’m thinking about it, do a Google search on “Jaleel White scores don’t make sense” (I won’t link to the article here…
). A couple of the quotes just stunned me. Like “I have to say this, I haven’t whined about anything on this show. I’m not going to whine about the media…” 
Really? Also, read about the “dance move” he calls the “Sneaky sneak”….. but be prepared to become ill when you do, because it sounds like something that actually would come out of Urkel’s mouth.
I admit I haven’t followed Jaleel too closely but I don’t get the creepy vibe some are talking about. I thought he deserved to be saved last night even though I like Gavin a lot.
I wonder if any combination of Donald, Maria or William were to be in the dance-off who would the judges pick. I would hate to see Donald go home because the judges have favorites, are the judges really any different than the audience.
I have to think they’d choose Donald or William over Maria. Donald because he would likely (not definitely) outdance Maria in a duel, and William because they drool over him.
OMG….. Peta just tweeted that the upcoming week’s Dance Duel is the freaking Jive….
http://twitter.com/#!/PetaMurgatroyd/status/193102325005557761
Oh man
I asked that this morning hoping is wasn’t true, but Peta would know 
Uh-oh cant wait for Princess Heidi’s response. This isn’t strictly a dancing competition, otherwise only good dancers would be chosen. Its all in the title. It’s hard enough to find “stars” to compete but they also have to be experienced dancers?
The beauty of this show is we can find joy in watching all types of imperfect dancers and root for them. I enjoy Gladys and Gavin more so than Katherine and Roshon. It has nothing to do with who they are but they just have that certain charisma, personality and genuine spirit on the dance floor. Just because someone can’t dance as well as another, doesn’t mean he or she isn’t working as hard.
Yes, the “best” dancer should win but sometimes the better technical dancer just doesn’t move us
Well, reesev, it’s not your place to waltz in here (without ever posting here before, mind you) and climb right up on your soapbox and start dictating how everyone should interpret the show. That’s just a great way to get on the moderators’ (and most of the regular posters’) bad sides.
Find a way to post that doesn’t make you sound like a sanctimonious asshat or you won’t be posting here ever again. Although in my experience, if your first ever post here starts off that insulting & hostile, you probably don’t have much to offer in the way of worthwhile discussion…