DWTS 14 Week 6 Power Rankings
Tonight is one of those nights where it physically HURTS to rank. Literally, I’ve got a headache, I’m tired, kinda cranky, and overall? Kinda sad…I may have ranted and raved on Twitter, but when it comes down to it, I care about this show, and to see it become such a 3-ring circus of blatant favoritism, calculated scoring, and machinations by the judges and folks in charge? I’m just really disappointed.
And unfortunately, I think the judges may have all but sealed the fate of at least one of the couples – and if there’s a double elimination like we’ve been hearing (and I’m pretty sure there will be – they’ve gotta whittle down to an even number of couples for the team dances next week), I’m fairly certain that we’re going to lose at least one really talented couple that doesn’t deserve to get sent home yet. And if by some miracle I’m wrong – then we’re probably still going to lose two big fan favorites. It sucks whatever way you cut it, I’m afraid. ๐
ETA: Yes, I know now that I added wrong, and Maria & Derek are tied with 30 points. Doesn’t change my rankings, but I acknowledge the error…too bad I’m too tired & the site is being too moody for me to fix it ๐
1.) Katherine & Mark – Let me start off by saying this: I don’t think Katherine’s a bad dancer. Technically, she’s quite good…lacks a bit in showmanship sometimes, I’m afraid, but she’s a good dancer and I do think she deserves to stick around. But WHY oh WHYYYYY did they insist on overscoring her so blatantly??? Her samba was cute and fun, and she never got off time or misstepped…but I also never really got the impression that she was 100% in the dance, and for the first time since week 1, I actually saw the “deer in the head lights” look in her eyes again, like she was constantly teetering on the brink of messing up. It actually reminded me a lot of Chelsea’s quickstep at this time last year – technically sound, and probably 70% there in terms of showmanship, but somehow a bit…cautious. Apprehensive. Safe. Mundane. Vanilla. Take your pick…all were terms I saw being tossed around on Twitter in reference to her samba, and I have to agree. I think our reader Will actually best summed it up: “It sorta made me think of a lovely, middle class, white couple trying to ‘get down & funky’.” It wasn’t bad, and it was a valiant effort – but it was a tad awkward. I would have thought more along the lines of a 26, definitely not a 29. As for the dance marathon – sorry, but I have to call complete bull on this one. I have nothing against Katherine, but the girl was barely moving out there – every time the camera panned to her, she seemed to stuttering a bit, and looking to Mark to tell her what exactly to do. IMO, the person that wins the marathon should be someone that is constantly dancing full-throttle, giving it 100%, and always moving…like Roshon. Not someone who can only eek out chunks and spurts of good dancing. My only theory for her almost-perfect score tonight? She’s just not getting the votes…and some of you can pooh-pooh me and call me a conspiracy theorist all you want, but I cannot in good conscience say that she cumulatively danced better than everyone else tonight, and deserved the scores she got. I think both of her other 29-scoring performances (her waltz and Argentine tango), were far superior to this samba. But apparently she needed shielding from the bottom two, and based on the spread I’m seeing, I think the judges succeeded in doing just that.
2.) Jaleel & Kym – Ok, I’ve gotta hand it to Jaleel – after a few kinda “off” weeks, I think he really redeemed himself this week – that cha-cha was high-energy, on-point, and entertaining. But 29-worthy??? Ai ai ai…these judges were trying to give me a coronary, I swear. It was the strongest performance of the night for me, but I don’t think I would have given it more than a 28, tops – still a little bit of wobbling & “happy feet” going on here and there, and I feel like he still kinda looks to Kym to give him a visual cue of what to do from time to time. As for the dance marathon – he & Kym seemed to be doing the same lift every time the camera panned to them, so based on that, I guess they did pretty good…but see, that’s the thing about the marathon that I absolutely HATE: the production staff is controlling what we get to see, so for all we know, Jaleel may have been killing it out there, while Katherine was just kicking it in the proverbial shins…but because the camera footage we saw was so limited, TPTB can claim plausible deniability, and say that Katherine was really the better dancer based on the entirety of her performance in the marathon. But of course, it’s an entirety we’ll never see, and we just have to trust that the judges made the right decision. Well I, for one, do not trust the judges ๐ But alas, I can’t really say for sure whether or not Jaleel did fantastic in the marathon – but he did look like he was having a good time, and I thought what he & Kym were doing was at least more inspired than what Willy Boy & Cheryl were doing. So where does that leave Jaleel this week? Likely far from the bottom 2 or 3, given the spread, and the likely boost in votes he’ll get from being in the bottom 2 last week.
3.) William & Cheryl – I’ve gotten to the point with these two where I don’t even want to say anything about them anymore, because I feel like I’m just repeating the same stuff over and over again, and there are still some Kool-Aid drinking wackos that refuse to believe any of it…but I do think I saw a glimmer of hope this week, because at least 2 of the judges seemed to be a bit more critical of these two this week. Yes, I will say that William had some pretty good hip action in his rumba – but once again, he barely moved out of place, and once again, Cheryl danced around him. Let me be clear: a dance where the man barely moves out of a 2-foot radius for the bulk of the dance is not something I can truly label as “good”. Yes, he was “there” for her, but beyond that, I don’t feel like he really did much. And I agree with Len – it got a little too raunchy. Hell, it’s been too raunchy for awhile now – I’m tired of the flash and trash and I want to see William truly DANCE. Want me to believe that he’s a legitmately good dancer who deserves such ridiculously high scores week after week? Then challenge Cheryl to not get all breathy in William’s face or rub herself all over him like a cat on a scratching post, and make her really TEACH him. As for the marathon? Pffft. Since when is sliding around on the floor with your shirt open “Motown”? Or even particularly creative? Once again…flash & trash. But he’s sufficiently shielded from the bottom 2 once again, so he lives to dance another week. But I daresay it won’t be a cakewalk to the finale for him…more on that later this week ๐
4.) Donald & Peta – I doubt these two are in any big danger of going home this week (Donald’s just too damn lovable, and a good dancer!), but amidst all the “ado” surrounding Katherine, William, & Jaleel, I feel like Donald actually got a bit lost in the shuffle. His foxtrot was fun, clean, and entertaining, but maybe lacked a bit of the panache that made Katherine & Jaleel such standouts (and the fakey-fake hype that keeps William in the forefront). As for the marathon, I kinda had the same problem with Donald that I did with Jaleel – I just didn’t see much of him to judge on, and the parts I did see looked like the same sequence of steps repeated from his cha-cha. And I can’t really blame any of the pros for recycling choreo from their stars’ previous cha-chas…there was just too much going on this week, and there shouldn’t have been a marathon dance to begin with. So consequently, I think I was left just kinda content with Donald this week, rather than blown out of the water. Hope he gets a good dance next week, so he can slide back into the top spot…
5.) Melissa & Maks – I gotta say – Melissa actually really impressed me this week. This was the most relaxed I’ve ever seen her out on the floor, and as a result, I think her performance value & technique really improved. Very pretty, pleasant Viennese waltz. Did it blow me away? No, but I enjoyed it nonetheless. In the marathon? Once again, I’m limited by what they decided to show us, and while Melissa looked like she was having a lot of fun and really trying, I did catch a few moments where she & Maks looked like they were stalling for a second before busting their next move. As I said before, I like marathon dancers who are constantly moving, so based on that, I think these two should have gone out at least before Roshon, who I never saw stop moving. So where does that leave Melissa for tomorrow? Well she has yet to be in the bottom 2, while there are folks left who have been there before; and this week, she has a bit more of a points cushion than she’s had in previous weeks. While I do think she’ll be in the bottom 2 sooner rather than later (unless she suddenly starts getting 10’s), I think she’s safe this week, based on those below her.
6.) Maria & Derek – Like Donald & Peta, I think these two may have gotten a little lost in the shuffle this week, too, but unlike Donald & Peta, I’m a little nervous for these two. First off, I have to say – I think they got dealt a bit of a crap hand when they were the only couple that got Martha as their music. Now while I love Martha, I can’t lie – it was downright PAINFUL listening to her sing this week. Her voice is just not what it used to be, and she seemed to be really struggling tonight. Consequently, I actually think Maria & Derek could have been legitimately distracted when trying to dance to “Jimmy Mack” – hell, I know I was! At one point, when they were doing their choreography on the stairs and got a bit out of synch, it actually looked like Martha caught them off-guard…like they weren’t planning on her being that close, and consequently had to adjust their spacing to accomodate it. Aside from the minor synchronization snafu and just the overall poor quality of their music, I actually really liked their foxtrot – just a fun, pleasant walk in the park ๐ Now as for the marathon…hmmmm. I actually have to agree with them being tapped out 2nd – Maria looked like she was dancing pretty cautiously, and they seemed to be doing the same sequence of cha-cha steps in hold over and over again. I haven’t done a very good job of keeping up with Twitter or any of the interviews Vogue has posted in the past few days (*guilty face*) due to my ongoing internet issues, but I guess Maria is still injured/sick? Which I guess could explain why she was so tentative in the marathon dance. Can’t say I blame her, if that was the case. But here’s the pickle they’re in: they’re currently wedged between the lowest scorer (Gladys) and the only previous appearance in the bottom 2 that is likely to show up there again this week (Roshon), and there’s a possible double elim this week – so if they eliminate the lowest combined scorer and make the next two couples duel, I think there’s a decent chance they could end up in the duel…unless they manage to overtake Melissa & Maks, the next couple up from Roshon. And I think it’s possible they could overtake Melissa & Maks…but it will depend on whose fanbase is more passionate. Both Derek & Maks have power voters, and as a tv host, Maria might appeal to the same demographic as Melissa – it could be a pretty even match. But my gut tells me that Melissa is likely gonna edge Maria out this week, and Maria will (dramatically, of course!) fall into the duel…after one kinda off-week. But I think she’ll ultimately be safe…
7.) Roshon & Chelsie – Ok, I give up: what exactly do the judges have against Roshon??? This poor kid got raked across the coals tonight for a rumba that I didn’t think was all that bad – on the contrary, I actually was really impressed with both his hip action and the gorgeous way he extended his arms. By far the strongest rumba of the night, even if there were “too many syncopations” (sorry, but I can’t blame Chelsie for throwing a lot of them in – that song was sooooo slow and boring). Underscored by at least 2 points, IMO…he should have gotten an 8 from Carrie Ann and a 9 from Bruno, based on their comments. Now the marathon – ugh. This guy was movin’ & shakin’ and busting all sorts of Motown moves while other couples seemed to just kinda muddle through – yet he still is the 3rd person tapped out. What gives??? Were they docking him because they weren’t doing lifts? Psssh…the fact that the got tapped out so quickly just further illustrates for me that the judges want him gone. And lord knows why, because I do think this kid can legitimately dance. But alas, I think the scoring probably did Team Rochee in this week – while he did manage to get a greater margin of votes last week to stay out of the bottom 2, I think he was bolstered by his appearance in the bottom 2 in the previous week (and Jaleel’s missteps the previous few weeks…), and likely won’t have that same boost this week to keep him safe. However, he’s still got an okayish margin over Gladys, but I think she’s got a decent amount of voters behind her, so I can’t really state with confidence which one will go straight home and which will end up in the duel – and once again, that is only if there is a double elim tomorrow night, and it plays out similarly to the double elim in season 9. I’ve waffled back & forth since the show ended about 2 hours ago, but I ultimately think Roshon will end up in the duel – and if it’s against Maria, it could be pretty close on who gets saved…as in 2 judges for one couple and one dissenting judge. But I just get the feeling that the judges are kinda done with Roshon, so it will ultimately be the other couple (probably Maria) that gets the stay of execution while Roshon is sent packing. Sad face ๐
8.) Gladys & Tristan – Gladys was just so stinkin’ cute tonight ๐ She may not have had the strongest dance, and she may have forgotten a good chunk of her choreography…but she just looked like she was having so much fun, and was giving it an honest try. It was a very cute, very “Motown-appropriate” rumba – loved the little nods and “Pip skills” Tristan threw in. Marathon? Meh…I guess I can’t say I was too surprised she got tapped out first, as I think she’s the weakest dancer left in terms of physical limitations. Poor Gladys just can’t move at 67 the same way most of the other contestants move in their 20’s, 30’s, & 40’s – but man, she’s impressed the hell out of me, the way she’s come out every week and given each dancer her all, and done it with a smile. I think she’ll definitely be leaving on a high note, and will be a contestant I won’t soon forget ๐
*sigh* So waffling back & forth and some internet issues nothwithstanding, I think I’m going to lock my predicitions in as Gladys going straight home, and Roshon getting beat by Maria in the dance duel. But if it happens to be Melissa in the duel with Roshon? He may get a stay of execution. And if Roshon (and/or Gladys) manages to avoid the bottom 2 altogether? All bets are off ๐ So what do you guys think?
I don’t think I have ever been more pissed with the judges than tonight- its 2 hours later and I am still fuming! I don’t think I have ever seen a more underscored danced than Roshon’s rumba tonight- especially in comparison to all the other couple’s dances and their scores. While I was watching that rumba, I honestly thought that he was on fire (his passion, his arms, his connection with Chelsie- everything was just great) and that he might just get that 9 out of Len yet. I was honestly gobsmacked with the judges’ critiques and scores. The fact that the only person to score beneath him was Gladys and that Carrie Ann gave them the same score is just crazy to me when I honestly thought it was one of the top 3 dances of the night. And then to be tapped out 3rd in the marathon when they were honestly doing the best combination of Motown and cha cha that I could see of any of the couples- Ay yi yi! Obviously Roshon and Chelsie did something terrible to one of the judges because they were 100% completely and totally screwed tonight. I have sent my 100 votes to him but I just hope more are voting so at least we have a chance at him getting to dance in the dance duel and maybe surviving to dance another week! I do not want to see this couple go yet!
Here are my thoughts on the dances (ONLY) tonight:
Gladys/Tristan – First, hats off to Tristan for designing great costumes for Gladys every week. I think its too upbeat to be a rumba. At first I thought it looked like a cha cha. She forgot some steps and look lost at times. 6
Maria/Derek – Maria looks great at top, but her feet was messy. The synchronization should be better, and because of that the performance was a bit ‘blah’ to me. 7
Roshon/Chelsie – That was hot. I’m surprise that Roshon pulled it off! Good for him. Chelsie has really been awesome with her choreo this season. 8
Katherine/Mark – I never thought I’m going to say this about Katherine, but I didn’t enjoy it. She seems too cautious, the whole dance. Her turns are a bit weak and she was not on time in certain spots. Her weakest dance to me, by far. 7
Donald/Peta – Oh, my ‘Goddess’ is next! ๐ Is he a bit hunched? Football players always have that problem. I think he lost his balance in the middle, he better NOT drop my ‘goddess’! Not his best. 7
Melissa/Maks – It’s so lovely! I wish her arms are softer and more fluid because I love Maks choreo in this. She is dancing better. 7
Jaleel/Kym – I think its one of the better dances tonight although I think there isn’t a lot of cha-cha in it though. 8
William/Cheryl – I think I burst out laughing when Cheryl mouthed “yes!” in the middle of the dance. So horny. It was hot, but he was doing a lot of standing and moving his hips with Cheryl trying hard to sell the sex. Ok, I’m still laughing. 7
Marathon – I’m not going to comment in what seems to be ‘protecting judges pets’ event. Wow, how surprising Kat & Will the last ones standing? NOT!
It’s a ‘blah’ day for dancing but I’m going to pick Jaleel and Roshon as my favorite dances tonight.
After looking at the scores, if there is double elim, I think Roshon is gone first. Urgh! can’t believe it. He’s such a good dancer why do the judges hate him? Duel will be between Gladys and Melissa, with Gladys going home on Motown week. ๐
I think so many of the judges’ scores tonight were off. I thought Jaleel was overscored by about 3 points, Roshon underscored by about 4 (and why is it that Carrie Ann deducts a point for his lift but let others in previous week go?), and William overscored by about 3. Most of the marathon rankings were accurate, but William should not have gotten a 9 and I don’t get how Roshon was out third. Sigh, I think Gladys will be going home without a doubt, but I still gave her all my votes just in case she manages to escape the bottom two. I’ll be really sad if there is a double elimination tomorrow, since I like so many of the contestants this season ๐
I’m pissed. and really, at truth, sad. The total bs of protecting Katherine and William. I could just hurl. I was so so so excited about the across the board talent this season, but with all that is going on, I just don’t know that I want to watch it play out. We’ll see what tomorrow brings, but honestly, for the first time since I started watching this show in season 3, I can see calling it quits.
I just keep seeing Willy slide across the floor vs Roshon dancing his tush off. plah.
I hoping the average vote/viewer picked up the phone, texted, emailed for Roshon and Chelsie. To me the 2 were more hot, sensual and connected that William and Cheryl. I am biased of course. Sorry if I upset William fans this is just my opinion.
I hope there is no double elimination. It wasn’t announced at all right by Tom or Brooke?
At the end of the day, judges manipulation or not America will have the final say ๐ :).
I know there is a lot of talk about the judges “possibly “pimping Katherine because she might not get a lot of vote, Uhhh??!! this wouldnt be the first time that something like this happens;And even if its true so what?? At the end of the day, its THE PUBLIC WHO DECIDES no matter how the judges manipulate the show.They can do it to a certain extent but like I already said the public will decide.
She is my favourite to win not only because I like her as a singer/person but also because she is the most talented dancer this season imo plus I love her partnership with Mark :). I honestly thought that her samba was slightly overmarked but she did a pretty good chacha and deserved to win that marathon.
I decided to throw some votes to Roshan(I dont why he keeps getting hammered by the judges? I actually think that he had one of the best performance tonight;so unfairly undermarked :(!
Maks &Melissa must have a pretty strong fanbase. Hopefully Gladys fans will vote for her because if she finds herself in the bottom2 she will be gone.
How cruel to give the jive as the dance for the duel!!!
I loved Motown week because I loved the music. It was great to have Barry Gordy there as well.
My top 3 of the night were:
Jaleel & Kym: My favorite dance of the night! It went with the theme and they looked like they had lots of fun. I hope they get the encore.
Katherine & Mark: Yes, she can dance and is having fun but I have to admit, though she danced the samba well it wasn’t worth the same score as her AT and Waltz. She’s the best female dancer and will have no trouble going all the way.
Roshon and Chelsie: WTH is with the judges esp. Carrie Ann?I liked their rumba the BEST. Roshon was dancing more than William (who is OVERSCORED by Bruno again) Gave them some of my votes online and by phone. But I’m worried they’ll be in the dance duel.
MyBottom 3. Gladys & Tristan – liked that she channeled motown but rarely was there any rumba in their dance. I think she’ll be safe but won’t be surprised if she’s eliminated.
Melissa & Maks: She’s improved she’s the 2nd weakest dancer left. She would be my choice to be in the dance duel.
William & Cheryl – Sorry their rumba didn’t deserve a 10 and they didn’t deserve a 9 in the marathon dance.
By hook or by crook the judges are going to get Katherine and William into the finals. All I can hope is that Donald is in the final.
I’m still trying to figure out what Chelsie and Roshon did wrong…I thought they danced great. And to be tossed out of the marathon so quickly. That’s ridiculous, they’re the youngest contestants out there, and though I couldn’t see them most of the time, I’m sure they were dancing non stop. I would guess Roshon is this season’s Ralph.
I’m not even going to comment on William and that 10 from Bruno, and his placement in the marathon. ๐
Roshon was screwed point blank period. ..i dont understand why because he was prob gonna be in the duel anyway bc of his fanbase….unless hes gonna be the lowest vote getter and kicked off before the duel ( if they are doing that)
If you really believe that the public decides this season, dwtsfan, you’re not paying attention. You only have to read my numbers post to realize this isnt the case. They have really taken it out of the public’s hands when it takes more than 50k votes for Roshon to beat Katherine – and in my opinion, he was the better dancer.
This whole “the public decides” is a ruse to make people feel better about Katherine.
I think Bruno is hoping to get a date with William.
I agree with Roshon being underscored. I’m voting for him. I hope a lot of people are too. He does not deserve to go home! 1-800-868-3405 (:
Maybe the judges were blinded by Mark’s gold spats. I did not know they made gold spats.
This whole season, with the judges ‘mucking about’ with the scores, is just meh.
People, we’ve always frowned on campaigning here – don’t start it now. Or else. Hint: if you’re posting phone numbers, you’re campaigning.
Also, if you have twice as many comments on this post than anyone else does? You’re posting too much and you need to tone it down.
I might be making things up or seeing things but after Chelsie and Roshon got their scores Maks made a surprised/disbelief kinda face and mouthed wow.
this is my 1st post here & i’m honestly surprised at all the negativity, seriously. derek is my favorite pro of all time & donald is my favorite celeb this season, but that doesn’t mean i hate the other pros & celebs. agreed roshan, who is my 2nd favorite along with maria after donald, was underscored & william probably overscored, but i don’t hate william for the way he’s being scored, or katherine for that matter. her samba shouldn’t have got more than 26, 27, but she and roshan were the best in marathon. i’m no katherine fan, but she is the best dancer this season. remember, the best dancer doesn’t necessarily win & she, in all likelihood, won’t, but i do enjoy her dancing. cheryl’s attitude this season, though, has made me slight less appreciative of william. worried for maria & voted lie crazy for her & roshan.
ARGH!!! This is the most disgusted I have been with the judging & TPTB in all of the 14 seasons! The Marathon Dance of season 14 = WTA Cha Cha of Season 12.
Gladys & Tristan – the dancing isn’t great, but I love to watch them dance. ๐
Maria & Derek – not their best performance but a solid effort.
Roshon & Chelsie – I was impressed. I think it is very difficult for a very young man to dance a rumba. Underscored & I will send a few votes their way tonight.
Katherine & Mark – technically Katherine is an excellent dancer, but that was a very polite and reserved samba.
Donald & Peta – I like how he gets into the character of each dance but is still himself (does that make sense?), & improves a bit each week.
Melissa & Maks – Finally! Melissa looked like she was having more fun with this dance and not have to hold on for dear life. ๐
Jaleel & Kym – an improvement over the past few weeks but not 10 worthy IMO. This performance isn’t enough to make me forget weeks 2-5.
William & Cheryl – Zzzzzzzzzzz
rhea, on your NEXT post here, keep it about what you think and not about who is posting what on this site. That will get you deleted. Word to the wise.
ok, i apologise if i have offended anyone here. this will be my last post here. tx
1. Jaleel/Kym
2. Roshon/Chelsie-underscored
3. Katherine/ Mark-overscored
4. Donald/Peta
5. William/Cheryl
6. Maria/Derek
7. Melissa/Maksim
8. Gladys/Tristan
If Double elimination- imo, Gladys and Melissa
I agree with those who feel that Katherine’s Samba was over-scored. However, she has naturally hyper-extended knees (which is great for Cha Cha but makes Samba technique even more difficult … and it is already the hardest Latin dance). I think that Mark, of necessity, spent so much time working on bounce technique (ending each movement with her knees bent), that the time needed for polishing their routine got short-changed. It also didn’t help that their song was too slow for a really good Samba. OTOH, I thought that they had far more Cha Cha content and quality in the Marathon than any other couple. That was about the only thing that the judges got right tonight.
IMO, the judges were transparently dishonest in their comments and scoring of Roshon’s Rumba. I didn’t think that he could pull off such a mature dance, but he did. For a male celebrity, his Rumba hip movement was about as good as DWTS has seen. In addition, Chelsie was on fire in that routine. OTOH, I thought that there was way too much hip hop in his Cha Cha. It didn’t justify how early they were eliminated, but it has been a problem with every one of his Latin dances.
Jaleel made a strong come-back this week. He probably had the most complete and enjoyable dance of the night. OTOH, how unfair is it that he got Cha Cha for both his main dance and the marathon. He is working on just one style all week, while everyone else has to focus on two (or, two vs. three, if you want to count tomorrow’s Dance Duel Jive).
William barely moved in his Rumba. I am glad that Len really called him (and Cheryl) out, especially with respect to his hip movement (or lack thereof in forward/back movements). Bruno should be ashamed of himself for giving this routine a “10” … and they should all be ashamed for ranking him second in the Marathon … sliding on your knees isn’t dancing.
Except for the stumble on the stairs (and her failure to recover quickly from it), I thought that Maria’s Foxtrot was terrific. At that point, she looked like the most improved dancer of the season. Then, her dancing in the Marathon was even worse than her Week 1 performance. I hope that 2-dance weeks aren’t more than she can handle. I’m a little worried about her position in the scoring … Jive is unlikely to be her strongest genre.
Peta needs to work on Donald’s shoulders … they are really rolled forward, which gives the wrong look to his Ballroom frame. I thought that, overall, he had a pretty off night (although he is as safe as anyone could be at this point in the competition).
Melissa is just never going to relax or become fluid on the dance floor. I feel sorry for her because she obviously wants to do well so badly, is trying so hard, and has a partner who appears to be checking out from this season.
I absolutely loved Gladys’ Rumba … and she looked spectacular (unlike Smokey or Martha). If the judges’ age adjusted their comments and scores, she would be knocking it out of the park. Unfortunately, they have never really done that for her … and they usually stop doing it for anyone around this stage of a season. She is the least physically-capable dancer left, but it has been a joy watching her dance with Tristan.
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for some reason I’m having a icky feeling for Maria and Derek tomorrow night! I seriously hope their not going home! They deserve to be their! The show won’t be the same without them! She was unscored in my opinion! I’m sorry I love Donald and Peta but I was so mad when Carrie Ann gave him a 9! Maria did the same mis-take that Maria did and he got a higher mark! It makes me so mad! You can tell that the judges play favorites (except for Len) They should judge fairly not on the way they look (William Levy) I’m sorry he is always overscored and I think it’s time for him to get a glimpse of the first hour of the show! The sixth week in the row he’s in the second hour when their is more viewers tuning it. The producers should share that spot. IMO but I really hope its not Maria going tomorrow! Just have a weird feeling! ๐ ๐
Tonight’s episode really bummed me out. After Roshon & Chelsie performed and the crowd was going crazy, I was so excited, thinking that they were gonna get a great score, and then they just got tore into. I’m not gonna rant about it though (even though I’m still livid about it lol) cause Courtney basically summed up everything I was thinking and I really just wanted to thank you for your recap and tweets during the show =) That’s one of the few things that kept me from flying off the handle while watching tonight’s episode lol.
I’m holding out some hope that Roshon & Chelsie can survive tomorrow, but I’m bracing myself for the worst.
** I mean Donald made the same mis-take that Maria did
I gave all my votes for Roshon tonight because I think they are trying to “Ralph” him….. ๐
I’m done fuming. I wanna curse and stay mad, but I’m just gonna tire myself. I was so mad that Chelsie and Roshon got eliminated 3rd in the marathon and William was 2nd place. And that Rochee got 23. Yes Roshon was jerky, but that Rumba had PLENTY of good things. What is it with the judges??? Why don’t they have the love they had for Chelsea Kane? They have something against actually good dancers? Roshon and Chelsie were so fired up in the marathon….. Seems to me that Chelsie had this accepting, but disappointed and not-surprised look when they were tapped. ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
Gladys was so beautiful! I can only dream to be that perfect at 67. Maria and Derek always have wonderful frame. Their hips actually touch! AMAZING! Maria’s upper body just makes the most beautiful frame. Katherine…..hmmm…maybe it’s the hyperextended legs Breck mentioned but I didn’t see any bounce? ๐ And I never got the “samba! party!” vibe from that dance. Melissa’s dance was very, very enjoyable. Maks inserted varied stuff, and it was very pretty and well-executed. Jaleel surprised me, but Latin really isn’t his strongest suit, imo. Peta choreographs really, really flashy stuff! I’m very entertained, but I’m curious about what Donald can really do. Also, gosh her flexibility!!! O_O man, she does splits as if she were just walking. William Levy…..*to mods: can I type curse words on PureDWTS? :D* wtf was that package. wtf was sliding on the floor awarded 2nd place on marathon. I hate being invested in DWTS.
Well, for the first time this season and like so many of you, I’m disgusted. Could the judges be more transparent for who they want picked to go and to win this season? Why even bother dancing anymore if you are Roshon? Then there was the messed up Marathon. Maria, Roshon, and Donald were voted out way too early. My eyes kept going back to Peta and Donald. I thought they should have won.
Ok, here are my rankings or their individual dances…
Peta and Donald – They were my fave couple of the night again. The choreography was creative. I loved their glides and elegance. He’s such a gentlemen in his soul. Just stunning. This was the ‘dance of the night’ in my opinion too. 29
Roshon and Chelsie – The judges should be ashamed of themselves. I loved this dance. It was smooth and full of cool choreography. I didn’t think Roshon could pull off being very sensual, but, he did. He’s got that unexplanable ‘it’ factor when it comes to dancing. 28
William and Cheryl – I thought he was smooth and this was a perfect dance for a rumba. He could have used some deeper turns and hip action but, for the most part it was a good dance. 27
Mark and Katherine – She had some slow moments in her legs and her “bounce” still needed some work. But, more than anything, and for the first time this season, Mark annoyed me as in previous seasons. The “show off” Mark returned and he was over dancing her at times, UGGH. 27
Maria and Derek – She was beautiful and she had such elegant lines. I loved Derek’s 50’s look. They reminded me a little of Olivia Newton John and John Travolta in Grease…..but, yeah, she lost her footing and steps in one part it which sadly brought her scores down. 26
Jaleel and Kym – He may have been better tonight, but, in no way did he deserve 10’s. What the ?? He was sluggish too at times. I find it so hard to stomach this guy. 25
Maks and Melissa – This was Melissa’s best dance to date. The slower dances are more suited for her. I loved their glides and frame. Though at the end, it felt a little disconnected like she was getting tired. 24
Gladys and Tristan – Like always, this team is a pleasure to watch. Gladys is so full of class. She relaxed and channeled her heart and soul tonight. I love how Tristan never out dances her. Both are total class acts. 22
Since the judges have made it impossible for Roshon, I’m betting his time is up and it’s so not fair and I’ll be livid if this happens. It could be Melissa to go as well or both if there is a double elimination? I’m going to say Gladys’ and Tristan’s fan base will save her again. More than anything, I wish it was JALEEL GOING HOME!
I am so sick of Willy being overscored! I thought Jaleel and Kym were so entertaining tonight! My favourite dance of the night! Roshon was robbed, Katherine was overscored, Donald was hunched over a lot and does need harder choreography. Len was right about all that tonight. Melissa was much better tonight, but still not great. Gladys looked fantastic and I thought her scores were right. (love Tristan!) I am so worried for Maria and Derek! I totally agree about the singing. I could barely listen to Martha! Ugh! I wish I could have seen more of them in the marathon though. They went out way too early and Derek looked royally pissed which is unusual for him, so it makes me wonder why. He will usually accept anything the judges say. I have the awful feeling that Maria will be in the bottom two . If she dances against Gladys, I think she will be safe. It’s Roshon, I’m not so sure! I think that Melissa should be in the bottom two based on her dancing, but I think the fan bases of those two will save her. The whole night was just sad! (including Smokey’s facelift!)
Also want to say, thank you Court, for the power rankings. It must have been hard to do after watching such a disgusting night of favourtism in scoring and lackluster dancing.
On another note, I think it was classy how Roshon handled the criticism thrown at him. Chelsie was the one a little upset but he seemed calm, even in interview after the show. I can’t imagine that happening with Maks (or Mark) especially when their partner is that talented.
I’ve been watching for MANY seasons, and there was a time when I thought the judging was pretty accurate and fair. But within the last three or four seasons, there has been a change and I don’t solely blame the judges, because it is most likely the producers predetermining who they would like to stay around and “encouraging” the judges to score accordingly. (This isn’t that big of a stretch, since media who attend tapings have alluded to the fact that the studio audience is coached to applaud for some couples more vigorously than others – i.e. William & Cheryl.)
Whatโs happening with Roshon and Chelsie sort of reminds me of Ralph & Karina, where it played out like the producers/judges just wanted him gone and it didnโt matter what he did on the dance floor.
We like to think everything is fair, but it is a television show and RATINGS are what count. Roshon doesnโt have a huge fan base but William Levy does โ They are looking at who is most valuable to them from a ratings perspective. They tell us the dance duel is for US, because we were so upset when good dancers like Sabrina Bryan went home too soon. But the reality is, itโs better for RATINGS to keep the best dancers/more popular celebs around for the finale, and giving the judges finally say helps ensure that.
For me, it takes a lot of fun out of the show, because the judging seems more and more predetermined, rather than based on what is actually happening on the dance floor.
I agree with everything you said. I feel bad for Roshon. I;m hoping Gladys is safe but probably not. I voted a ton for her tonight. If Gladys and or Melissa go home tomorrow I don’t know what I’ll do. No Tristan, no Maks = no watching for me.
I am sick and tired of watching Bruno’s infatuation with William each and every week. The favoritism is disgusting! Maria and Derek were eliminated too early and he did looked pissed in my opinion.
Lets hope everyone voted their butts off for these two. The judges are making it uncomfortable for alot of the good dancers. Lets hope the dance duel is just on a trial basis! As if there aren’t enough nerves!
I just, I can’t even after last night. I agree mostly with Courtney’s rankings. I knew the stupid dance marathon would be a farce and the only thing it did for me last night was tick me off.
I know Roshon isn’t perfect, but he doesn’t deserve this, IMO, and I feel so sorry for Chelsie. To me, if he falls into the dance duel with any combination of Gladys, Maria, or Melissa he deserves to stay, as I think he is head and shoulders above any of them. I’d throw William and Jaleel into that mix too, but I don’t think they’ll even sniff the dance duel.
In the after show video, Derek did not seem upset. Just more surprised. They were in the corner and could not see how others were doing.
It is a shame Maria had a slight mistake because that foxtrot was terrific. It would one bad night cost her. But the judges are nuts this season. The season is quickly sinkng. The pimping of their pets is too much.
I love gladys and tristan, tristan just a real man Donald i like but he need to focus on his dancing instead of trying to get a 10 from len it take away from his character like he’s a sore loser. the viewer are watching we no whats going on with Judges.William. Katherine. Roshon must i say more just enjoy the ride & the camaradarie from being on that show that will last forever. Everyone this season without a doubt are winners its crystal clear
Derek did not look pissed. I think some of you are projecting, possibly. Then again, how anyone can make any comment on the dance duel is beyond me. I don’t think I even SAW Maria and Derek, actually. How anyone at home can judge that…well, I don’t think they can.
The dance duel is probably going to do tomorrow what they didn’t expect (because they aren’t as smart as they think they are). Send home a better dancer while two lesser dancers stick around. I mean either Roshon or Maria to go home while Gladys and Melissa stick around. Then what are they going to say, eh?? They sure can’t say it’s working, can they. Not with a straight face. What I would absolutely pay money to see would be William versus Donald or Katherine in the dance duel but, as you’ll see from my numbers post, they have so ridiculously insulated Katherine and William that it will never happen. Based on the dancing I saw, it’s rather obscene.
Wiwin, it depends on how you use curse words. ๐ I use them all the time.
Cheryl thinks Roshon was robbed? Well, why? I could tell her why that is the case. We have to protect William. And they’ve clearly decided in their little pea brains that he is not a good dancer. You know, drugs do very bad things to your brain. They also make you think William is hot. Go figure. ๐
What a night…. A WTF night!!!
Donald and Peta were also the highlight of the night for me, Peta was gorgeous in blue and I just love these two so much, every dance makes me smile.
Roshon and Chelsie were underscored, the poor kid is up against some stiff competition, but unfortunately all Willy has to do just *show up* on the dancefloor and he gets a *10*. I fear Roshon may be leaving us tonight.
Katherine and Mark – Her worst dance and not worthy of 2 “10’s”, really… WTF is going on here. And Markie, maybe you better dust off that *Wizard Hat* of yours, cause I think the Wizard is in the buliding.
Maria and Derek – It was cute, nothing in that dance stood out though. I wonder if with her injuries, that Derek is holding back. I had flashbacks to some of Ricki’s choreography which I thought was tamed back as well.
Jaleel and Kym – I gotta say, I enjoyed their dance, but it was not worthy of “10”s. Even Kym was surprised, oh well, that’s the least of tonights problems.
Gladys and Tristan – She looked beautiful, and isn’t she enjoying herself. Dance wasn’t great, she seemed lost, she may be going home this week.
Melissa and Maks – I don’t know, this pairing just seems off. It was her best dance but her days are numbered, and she may be in trouble this week.
Willy and Cheryl – Are at the bottom of my power rankings, the Pimpage is off the charts, no dancing equals *10’s*… And Cheryl is now my least favorite pro on the show. The treatment that these two are getting is ruining this show for me.
Thank you Courtney for the Power Rankings this week.
Miss, I can NOT wait for your Numbers post again!!! I pray it has a way for Jaleel to go home. What a messed up night thanks to the judges. I’m still peaved. Again, how could they have been so mean and underscored Roshon the way they did? Why did Donald only get 9’s…and 10’s for Jaleel like that? PLEASEEEE!! ๐
Can’t remember the sequence and I can’t go back and check, but I remember thinking Derek looked upset and also kind of shocked/dazed the two times they showed him after the elimination. He certainly wasn’t smiling as usual when they showed all the couples at the end either. I could have projected the shock part because I was sure feeling that emotion myself! ๐ And BTW, Derek’s being “pissed” is not like another pro’s “pissed”. I’m sure he wouldn’t say a thing, but the look was there momentarily. Maybe he will explain what he was thinking in the confessional. ๐
Really looking forward to the numbers post. I’m hoping it will quell my fears! ๐
This is the first week that I actually felt bad for all of the other contestants on the show. The favoritism is out of control, it is really pathetic. Imagine how they must feel… You work so hard and it doesn’t seem to matter to the judges. And no end in sight maybe…. *sad*
My theory about the underscoring of Roshon is that tge judges got so much hate from Chelsea Kane winning the WTA, they wanted to prove they don’t overscore Disney stars by disgustingly underscoring him. That’s most reasonable thing I could think of.
LOL Meggie – true. Derek does everything a bit differently.
What he was probably thinking about was having to rehearse Jive until the wee hours, which is what they did.
Sandy, what a few people keep forgetting is that the pro is SUPPOSED to tailor their choreo to their celebrity. Derek has always been very good at that, but sometimes it leads to less flash than people expect from him. One of the dangers of setting his own bar so high. Up until the marathon it was working quite well.
What’s up with Cheryl this season?? Her language is vulgar during this interview. She IS talking to the media. I don’t care what she says privately. She seems so different this season.
And then there’s what she’s actually saying! If even the pros think the judges are manipulating and they’re speaking out about it on someone else’s behalf, things must be really bad!
As for complaining about Bruno, don’t bite the hand that feeds you, Cheryl! A 10 for that dance??? Come on!! ๐ก
I think Maria’s dress was really sparkly! ๐
….. as in that’s the only good thing you can say about her, @jimmbboe???? โ
Does everyone still think there is as double elimination tonight? They would have mentioned it already. It would be disgusting if they mention this to everyone at the last minute.
I have not missed an episode of DWTS since I discovered it week 3 of season 2, yet the pimpage of one WL has me very very very close to breaking that streak. Even my husband (who has no dance background/knowledge and couldn’t care less) commented on it when he walked into the living room while the maraton was on.
Also what was up with showing the trumpet player instead of D & P at the beginning?
Scoring was ridiculous last night. It was too bad for all the things Roshon did really well in the rumba, they harped on the one or two that weren’t as good. They couldn’t acknowledge his extensions or hips when they are usually lacking in the male celeb in a rumba? And the fact he certainly did not just let the female pro dance around him which also can happen a lot in a rumba? And don’t get me started on Carrie Ann choosing at this moment to call lifts…. I really like the energy he brings and the spunk of his and Chelsie partnership and he is talented. It would be way too soon to lose him.
The pimping of William is really getting on my nerves. I really think he is going to win this season and with all the other better dancers out there, that is a shame. If Gilles couldn’t win with Cheryl and a better Cheryl at that, William certainly shouldn’t.
If there is a double elimination tonight, I am really worried for Maria. With everyone loving Gladys on Motown night, Maks’ huge fanbase and people mad and voting for Roshon, I think she could even be the automatic elimination this week! It wasn’t a good week to have an error and poor marathon dancing. I voted for her last night and I hope others did too. It would be such a shame to lose her talent and to also lose Derek before he gets to choreograph his strongest dances- AT, Paso and waltz……
Melissa and Gladys should be the 2 leaving, even though I though I thought Melissa did improve and Gladys makes me smile….but they are certainly the weakest left. I don’t care for Jaleel but I thought he did really well last night and probably deserves another week. If anyone other than Melissa, Gladys, Jaleel or William (ha! wishful thinking I know) gets the boot tonight I will be very disappointed.
This whole thing has been rather unpleasant. I actually got uncomfortable a few times and went back and forth between DWTS and VEEP. Turns out VEEP, while really funny, is crazy similar to my office, which is not funny. Anyway, a loopy night for sure. Tom’s comments, however, were a lifeline.
I don’t always agree with the majority here but I’m soooo glad to get further validation for my belief that Roshon was royally screwed last night. Their rumba was hot and he actually DANCED so much more than William. (What IS it that has CA and Bruno so obsessed with William? I honestly don’t get it.) Roshon danced his little heart out in the marathon.
Grrrrrr. I still feel there are a lot of good dancers on this season, but I resent the judes ramming their favorites down my throat. While I respect the fact that they are trained to judge dancing, those of us who’ve watched for years can spot it when they’re propping up those who they want to stay around and low-balling those they want gone. It takes the fun out of it for me. ๐
I find myself at a loss. Like Courtney, I’m sad about the show now. IMO, the blatant favoritism and over/under-scoring has been obvious since Season 12, but this season just takes the cake. It’s ruining the show for me, truly, and I actually found myself yesterday thinking, “I don’t really want to watch tonight.”
The judges are out of control. They are caricatures of themselves from Season 1 or 2, and it’s just depressing. They were all hired because they know something about dance. Yet when all CAI’s and Bruno’s comments are about sexy and steaminess, I have to wonder why are they still there?
I’m not sure if their behavior is a result of wanting more camera time for themselves for being OTT or because TPTB are telling them to score a certain way. But honestly, I don’t see how you can name 4-5 things wrong with someone’s dance but still give them a 9 or 10. It doesn’t make any sense at all, and if Gladys and Tristan go home tonight, which I’m preparing myself for, I don’t know that I’ll watch the rest of the season. It’s just ruined for me. ๐
Tristan made comments about Roshon and Chelsie in his blog. See the comments.
http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/04/24/dancing-with-the-stars-tristan-macmanus-blogs-week-6/
The reason Roshon got a 7 from Carrie is because of a lift…. otherwise it would have been an 8.
I was so mad about the judges with Roshon! I agree he had a strong rumba with beautiful lines and a great character and yet he still managed to get a low score. Ugh anyways, I really hope Other viewers noticed how underscored he was!
As for the dance marathon, Katherine and mark did well and they deserved to be the last couple standing. However, I thought Donald and Peta or Roshon and chelsie should have been the other couple that finished second. Both of them gave really nice performances with high energy.
I’m ready for Melissa to go home, she has not done well in my opinion. Double elimination tonight (I hope) will be Melissa and Gladys.
IMO, since Roshon is a threat to TPTB’s pimped pets, William and Katherine, he is being lowballed. Thoroughly enjoyed his Rumba – he pulled off the sensuality and he partnered Chelsie beautifully. IF this is it for Team Rochee, at least they went out on THEIR personal best. I am really hoping the on-line outrage tranlates into votes for this team – they have ALL my votes.
Except Carrie hasn’t called lifts all season. For me, this is getting ridiculous.
Roshon was terribly underscored and William and katherine were overscored. jaleel was too, but I liked his dance tonight.
I’m guessing Glady’s as the outright elimination with either Roshon or Maria plus Melissa in the dance duel. I’d say Roshon, because I think Mak’s fan base will save them. And if it is between Roshon and Maria, chances are, Roshon is going home. If Melissa is in there, Melissa goes home.
That is only if there is a double elimination though. If there’s only one, I think Gladys and Roshon will be in the dance duel with Gladys going home.
But really, the show is getting hard to watch and it is not enjoyable anymore with the blatant overscoring and protecting of favourites.
Oh my gosh, I think I watched a different show last night than you guys. I loved the Motown theme! The Temptations, Smokey Robinson…and I thought it added so much to the dance to have them performing at the same time. Win win!
Katherine/Mark and Melissa/Maks: I was happy to see Melissa so at ease and fluid. She looked beautiful and confident! So different from her past dances. Loved it. And what can I say about Katherine? I thought her samba was great – high energy and fantastic choreo. Mark’s spats didn’t even bother me. I just can’t get enough of her. (get it?) Seriously, didn’t see any of the negative things that everyone is pointing out here about her dance. By far the best dance of the night for me.
Roshon/Chelsie: I thought he nailed it! I was shocked at the judges comments. WTF? They are so hard on him. And I was royally ticked about the lift police showing up now. Ridiculous.
Donald/Peta: I really like Peta! She is doing a marvelous job with Donald and I loved that Len told her to throw more at him. They are beautiful to watch and I just love Donald’s attitude.
Jaleel/Kym and Willam/Cheryl and Maria/Derek: These dances were all train-wrecks for me. I didn’t like them but I couldn’t look away. Jaleel definitely improved and it was a good dance, but the singing or talking or whatever he was doing was distracting and there is just something about him that gives me the heebie jeebies. I am repulsed by him, but I thought the dance was an improvement. I am repulsed by Cheryl as well, this season. What is her problem?! It was like she was in heat on the dance floor. Control yourself, woman! I thought William was good, but Cheryl was the distraction. And for Maria and Derek – this dance wasn’t BAD by any means, but I thought is was boring or lacked chemistry or something. I kept waiting for it or them to pick up steam. Maybe it was Martha bringing it down.
Gladys/Tristan: I am so glad that the judges are respectful of Gladys. She is oh-so smooth and graceful, she just misses a few steps here and there. I love her personality and the enjoyment she gets from being on the floor, and I heart Tristan.
The marathon was fun but it’s hard to see enough of everyone’s dances. I thought Katherine was the best, but I thought that Roshon got tapped out too early. And I LOVED, LOVED, LOVED Tom’s comments. The man is a freakin genius!
Marlene, I was just pointing out that was her excuse/reason for the 7 vs. the 8. I have seen the foot come off the floor many times in past seasons as well and Carrie Ann calls it if its not her “favorite”that season in my opinion. But like I said it seemed more of an excuse.
I also wish they’d stop with the themes. Or if they have to do themes at least find music that would match the speeds of dances. Slow song – rumba, fast upbeat – samba… it was opposite last night!
I hope that people who are complaining about Roshon being undermarked actually vote for him ๐ otherwise he is going to be in the bottom 2, though I hope not :(.
Do we all still believe there is a double elimination tonight? Maybe its next week.
I don’t think Gladys is going to be going anywhere, even though I know the judges and TPTB are trying to do what they can to force her out. I do think it will be VERY possible for them to overcome the deficit, since it was HER WEEK! Motown for Gladys… Face it, how many people think it would be wrong for her to go on a week built around her? And, going on PH’s past Numbers posts, and how many votes Gladys has needed to stay out of the bottom two, I do think she can do it again.
I don’t think Roshon is going, either. Many people are very upset about the blatant Ralphing, and that creates a lot more voting for them.
I think the two most in danger are Maria and Melissa, and if they are the two in the duel, it’s going to be Maria going home. Melissa goes into the duel at an advantage, because she’s already done a jive, and Maria hasn’t.
However, if they name a bottom 3, with 2 going home, my guesses and thoughts will probably be all wrong. I do think it’ll be either Melissa or Maria as the bottom and automatically going home, with the other one in the duel with either Gladys or Roshon. If it’s with Gladys, she’ll end up being the one going. If it’s with Roshon, it’s Melissa or Maria leaving….. I do think Roshon can outdance both Melissa or Maria. Definitely Gladys.
The second biggest feeling I got last night after disgust, was that the judges had already determined who the first 4 to be knocked out of the marathon would be. The music had just started and I had barely looked up and Maria was being eliminated and b4 I even saw the next couple they were eliminated-those 3 couples were so far in the background you did not even get to see them b4 they were gone. And Wm with a second-beyond ridiculous and obvious.
I was ready to give Len some props for FINALLY sorta calling out WM. for serious lack of dancing (and last night was even more shifting weight from foot to foot and posing than ever b4) and then he overscored him anyway! Donald was a little overscored (hunched forward and almost drppd Peta). same for Kath(yes she has hyperextension of knees so gives an illusion but..)overscored, Gladys walks and is off-time alot, Roschon is still too hectic and overdances-all overscored and it’s THAT that makes the problems If the judges could bring themselves to judge a little more accurately, people would not get so pissed about the outcome.
I feel like it’s a set-up. I feel like our voting does not really count. I feel like if Melissa or Maria is in dancing duel with Roschon, they will be gone NO MATTER what they do. I feel like the only way either of them have a chance if they are in the duel with Gladys…and I am kinda even doubting that now. I hope the regular viewers already voted b4 the marathon bec as I said half the couples barely started, were unseen and were gone. I felt the singing in a couple of the dances was bad enuf to be a distraction. I feel like the pros should have more say in what music is appropriate for their celeb-who would know better?
I have watched this show since show number one and I doubt I will be watching tonight. I have never been more disappointed/sick in something. This show is being ruined more every season. B4 last nights show even started you had to know something was up…another judge-subjective dance set-up PLUS a danceoff on a poss double elim week. RIIIGHT !! I thought the quality of the music was bad, it sounded bad alot, and many of the theme weeks are detrimental to ballroom dances. it screwed up some of the dancing and the blatant manipulation has gone too far.
It does seem that the judges are willing to use Roshon as a bit of a “sacrifical lamb” so they can keep their “golden child” William safe. I admit that Roshon’s dance was a bit sharp and syncopated, but at least he DID something!
#62 dwtsfan, I agree!
And while some are upset about his scoring and hopefully voted for him, they need to be strong, dedicated voters. When you see many people saying, ‘Roshon got screwed, so I gave him 8 voters…” Well, that’ll only help if a couple thousand did that, I believe.
I thought right out of gate the evening started off with over scoring. I love Gladys but I thought the judges wanted to give her 6’s. They gave 7’s because she’s Gladys and it was Motown. Generally the scoring of older contestants is pointless- the range is basically between 6 and 8. They don’t score them really low because they’re older and they don’t score them really high because SURPRISE! they’re older. That’s bull.
Then Maria came and had a decent dance with a moderate mess up. But she’s way better then Gladys so the judges put their comparative scoring hats on and produced 9’s. Which I think was a bit high, 8’s would have been more realistic (we saw in the Rumba she can dance very well and that’s when her personal scale got upgraded)
Len I think gets very agitated when the evening requires over scoring. He was so lovey dovey with the first two performances that he had to let out some of his bitterness somewhere. And the easiest victim is the youngest, hip-hop trained dancer.
Bruno gave them an 8 while it could have easily been a 9 but we all know what type of Rumba Bruno goes for. That’s the man who’s hormones made him ask GLADYS for more steam in her Rumba. Who wants to see her and Tristan grinding and groping?!
CA has apparently been saving the lift police for just the wrong moment. Seriously, please give it up! Either you do it or not, don’t change criteria in the middle of the season!
Then after the judges balanced themselves out taking it out on Roshon they continued the love fest evening. Katherine wasn’t 10 worthy. Donald had bad posture and a slip up, he wasn’t 9 worthy. I would have marked Donald about the same as Roshon and Maria. Melissa was actually scored fairly based on their comparative scale but if they scored her on personal scale she should have gotten a bit more. That was her best dance yet. Jaleel had the best dance of the night so I’m glad they pulled out some 10’s even if there were some not so perfect things in the routine. William would have been appropriately scored if it weren’t for Bruno and his ridiculous 10.
And the marathon… I do acknowledge we didn’t get to see everything that the judges could see. But there’s no way in hell William deserved to be 2nd and Roshon to be pulled third. I don’t have any explanations for the crazy scoring here other then the judges were overwhelmed by the evening and by not sticking to their own “constant” criteria.
A bad, bad night of scoring and I’m usually the one to defend the judges. I got validated in my theory that they cannot judge both on the personal and on the comparative scale at the same time. It’s just not humanely possible to keep a healthy criteria in that setup. TPTB are obviously trying to change things up a bit cause they’re worried about viewership. But you can’t just spray some cleaning spray on a dirty window and make an even bigger mess. If you choose to dabble you have to thoroughly clean the whole thing. Overhaul time.
Sorry for the rant.
I don’t think the three dances that got 10s really deserved those 10s…
Gladys & Tristan – I liked it. It was sweet, and I only saw one area of forgotten steps. Other than that I couldn’t tell. Her hip action, I think anway, was not really there. Again, her age is her biggest competetor. I think she’s gonna be safe once again because of who she is and the fact that Mowtown week was custom made for Gladys when she signed on.
Maria & Derek – Again, another dance I thought was pretty good. Maria can do ballroom so well. However the mistakes were painfully obvious to me. I like her, but not enough to vote for her. I’ll be sad if she goes, but I can’t complain as I haven’t voted for her. But she really did look elegant in that foxtrot. I think she’s safe.
Roshon & Chelsie – It was good! I knew Carrie Ann was gonna call out the lift, that much was obvious. I felt that Chelsie was going to get in a little trouble the way she was talking bck to the judges actually…Anyway, I didn’t see this jerky-ness that Len was talking about. I hope he’s safe. He’s got a lot of potential and when I was usually “Oh, I don’t really want you to do well”, I’m feeling “Come on Ro!” But again, not enough to get some votes from me.
Katherine & Mark – I think after what happened last night, Katherine is now my second favorite celebrity. I.E. she dropped. This samba was over scored. I love her, but that’s the truth. My mom was like “It was pretty good!” but I said “Yeah, but it wasn’t her best.” She was having fun, but I have to agree with Court: she’s not the best showman. Winning the Marathon and a 29? She’s safe.
Donald & Peta – Donald has moved up to official favorite, and pick to win. I thought this foxtrot was so fun! And Peta looked like she got in a time machine to the 60s, got dolled up there, and then came back. If he didn’t have that stumble RIGHT IN FRONT of the the Judges (or in any part of his routine) he could have had a 10 or two. But that’s just me.
Melissa & Maks – Hands down Melissa’s best dance. It was surprisingly very fluid. Carrie Ann made me think she was going to give Melissa a 9 with her comments, but I think 24 was a pretty acurate score for the two fo them. She is improving, and I think getting all the fast dances out of the way is advantageous to Melissa.
Jaleel & Kym – Definitely a redemption, and I thought it was pretty good too. My mom fell for it, she loves it and thinks those 10s are well deserved. I think 27 would have been better, but it was good to see Jaleel get his “groove” back. Unfortnately, I haven’t turned myself back on to him, so no votes from me.
William & Cheryl – -__- What a joke. Three 8s is what that routine was worth. No further comments because the Carrie Ann and Bruno pissed me off.
My thoughts on the Marathon:
I was actually kind of surprised to see Maria go so early. I thought “Well she’s doing pretty well, Derek always goes to the top two of these things.” To see her tapped out second was a shock to me. And then Roshon? Before Melissa? What?! The judges are crazy, I swear. And then Donald being tapped out BEFORE William? I call bs on the judges. William was in the middle of a floor slide when they tapped him out. Ridiculous. When it came down to William and Katherine, I don’t even care that Katherine didn’t deserve those 10 points. ANYONE would have been better over freaking overrated William Levy.
Like a lot of you, I’m really angry and disappointed after last night. Like Magnolia, I’m finding myself actually thinking “maybe I don’t want to watch”. ๐ And I’ve read what has been mentioned about the judges; I agree that what happened last night was apesh*t cray-cray (WELL beyond use of crack). Now, this is JMO, but I don’t think it’s the judges – they are just puppets. Well, actually, maybe MUPPETS. I think they do what they’re told – something like “We (TPTB) have some data that show us that (insert name of celeb here) is drawing LOTS of viewers. We REALLY want that person to stay. You got that?” Then, I think, scores (and spreads) are handed out accordingly.
All in all, I’m completely disgusted. As an initial protest, I’m thinking about DVR’ing DWTS, and NOT watching it live. That impacts their viewing numbers (after all, when you’re watching it live, you can’t fast-forward through all the commercials)… ๐
Oh one more thing on William: The producers know that he’s only got the Samba to save his ass next right? Paso Doble, Waltz, Viennese Waltz, Foxtrot, Tango? All of those dances I see William having the hardest time trying to get the judges give genital scores. Well, Paso and Tango (along with the Samba) might be get genital votes, but the others? No way.
Ok so this is how I ranked them (and it was much different than I thought it would be):
1)Jaleel & Kym : WOW He is in it to win it.
2)Katherine & Mark : I loved it. Would have been ranked #1 BUT Mark dressed in lime green for the marathon. that knocked them down a peg.
3)Roshon & Chelsie : I liked it.
4) Maria and Derek: It was fun to watch.
5) Donald & Peta : I liked it but I really ddidn’t get why Len thinks Peta isn’t chalenging him enough.
6)William & Cheryl : he is in the weeds when he runs out of dances where he can be sexy. Thats all I gotta say.
7)Melissa & Maks : It was cute. but I forgot about it so never a good sign.
8) Gladys and Tristan: That was a mess.
Now on to dance marathon: What the hell was going on with the judges !!! Glad Mark won becuase Katherine and him were fun to watch during it BUT William was basically recycling moves from his salsa and cha cha and when he took his shirt off my friend literally texted me the following: “Great yet another reason for the judges to keep him around to the final two for thsi thing yawn”
On a side note: best costuming award has to go to Tristan and Gladys. He looked like tony curtis in one of my fav movies (“Some Like It Hot”)
I really try not to let this show get to me, after all it is a reality dancing show, but last night was supposed to be fun and it turned out to be a big joke. That marathon, which I have always hated, was never based on dance talent. The judges knew before hand who they wanted to win it. While Katherine is a beautiful dancer, Roshon was putting more into his dance than many of the others, but of course the viewers at home couldn’t even see what was going on. Maria, Roshon, and Donald all left much too soon. I would have rather had the group dance and not have it scored.
I am worried for Maria and Derek, but I have faith in the sheer power of Derek, on top of Maria’s fans, to save them tonight. I do not believe they will be leaving this early. They may end up in the dance duel, but I believe in them, and in their fans. I believe.
And, why is no one talking about Jaleel and the marbles he put in William’s rehearsal?
Steph, I think the “marble incident” was a joke – that’s why no one’s offended by it. Had it not been meant as a joke, Jaleel would have done it off-camera. And note the marbles/stones were kept by the door and William/Cheryl saw and heard them, so there was no danger.
TPTB are probably waiting to see how the voting is going before they decide to implement the double elim. They’ll spring it at the last minute if they feel it’s needed to further their agenda. So predictable …
If I were William, I’d be more offended that Jaleel stole the marbles out of my mouth than the fact that he in turn used them to try and sabotage me. ๐
I know this is a longshot, but I think there could be one big advantage for TPTB to keep Maria & Derek around for at least another week: having Derek for the team dances. Think about it: he’s never lost in the team dance, so whoever ends up on a team with him is basically guaranteed some degree of safety. Just another subtle way for them to shield the chosen ones…
Reading all the comments today makes me so sad.
I love DWTS. I have watched it from the very beginning and always voted. DWTS always brought me to my happy place. I can’t wait for the season to begin and get so sad when the end is near. But this season, I wish it never happened! It showed such promise from the first show. But then TPTB got their dirty hands on it and ruined the season for a lot of people. (See all above) I always watched the show with a big smile on my face; but the obvious pimping of Free Willy is really too much. Bruno should stop thinking that by giving him a 10 he stands a chance with FW! CAI is just plain annoying. Some people she nitpicks every little thing; and others can do no wrong. (And how many times has she said something was the best in all 14 seasons! Has she suffered any head trauma lately?) I am glad that Len hasn’t jumped aboard the 10 wagon yet. There have been some 10 performances, but not by TPTB favs; so no 10 from Len.
It pains me to think how I am now so negative about a show that I love so much. If it is true that TPTB read these blogs, they better be aware that these people are your CORE viewers. They are the ones who have watched the show the longest. We love to watch the dancing. but your manipulations are destroying what has always been a positive feeling about this show.
I have always said that DWTS was the happiest place on earth (not Disneyland). Thanks TPTB for making it a real reality show like Jersey Shore and Housewives.
Courtney:
Your long shot makes alot of sense. I still feel they will somehow be safe for another week. They both have so many fans and supporters. What are the chances Jaleel could end up at the bottom, even with the controversy. I don’t feel he has many supporters. Would love to see William at the bottom! But it still is unpredictable and possible!
I think one way to boost viewership is to change all 3judges seriously. Have it where 4 three weeks each one gets fired on live TV. Ok, I’m still steaming over the scoring from last night so that might not be appropriate.
Both Tristan and Louis talked about better consistency from the judges like Ms. Lift police. Wasn’t Cheryl even quoted that the judging for Roshon was screwy? I think for Pros to make statements about low scoring 4 someone they are not partnered with says a lot IMO.
I voted all night and morning for Roshon and Chelsie and would be sleepin but I’m still fuming. Hope they brought in enough votes. Geez, I’m not sure the judges would even save Roshon even if he’s the better dancer of the 2 at this point:(. Bought to cry over that thought:(
Heh, Magnolia – I have NO desire to watch the show tonight so it’s a good thing I’ll be out boozing it up in the mountains. ๐ Seriously, when the die hard fans are turning away in disgust, you got problems.
Marlene, this is where I say to everyone “I told you so.” Love doing that. ๐ Did I not say a week or three ago that CAI would start calling lifts again at the most inopportune time. I called the lift during the dance but couldn’t believe my ears when SHE actually mentioned it.
I always thought Len was the judge with reason. When he is watching the show back, I wonder what goes through his mind, his thoughts, on himself and his fellow judges. I wish I was a little birdie in the room…
I have a feeling that if there was a double elimination tonight. Tom or Brooke would have mentioned it last night. It would be kinda weird if they mention it tonight. Really scared for Maria and Derek tho! Really hope their safe!
I just wanted to clarify something of my comments #65, the loud complaining about the judges ?? Ithink too, as does Sally #70, that it isn’t really their call, or at least some of the time it is not.
I am just SO pissed, have blood coming out of my eyes and ears, and tired from voting I can’t even think. And #78 summed it up for me…in a gritty world were few things are just purely beautiful or fun, anymore, and there is so much pressure and sadness to deal with in life, DWTS has always been my happy place, guilty pleasure because music and dance has always been very enjoyable and important to me. I don’t handle it too well when I am watching the destruction of this show.
I would think there would almost HAVE to be a double elimination tonight – the team dances are definitely next week, and I would like to think that they learned in season 9 that uneven numbers on the teams automatically puts the team with more people at a disadvantage. Then again, maybe that’s their intent – to definitely disadvantage one team in order to boost the other. I can see it now: the judges’ pets (Katherine & William) plus Maria & Derek (the team dance king) on one team…aaaaand everyone else on the other team. Yep, totally evenly-matched bout. ::roll::
I think the show is still enjoyable but remeber the last time they tried to pimp out there fav was Chelsea Kane and they managed to get her into the final;e but she still lost becuase she ddin’t have the fan votes so there is still hope for this season. We could still see a final three without William or Katherine (more likely without William since Katherine is the better dancer technically).
Normally the top two scoring pairs get to choose their teams. Well as of last night that would be Katherine and Markie probably choosing first, and then Jaleel and Kym. Now would Markie choose Derek or Cheryl first?
Heidi, I wish I was with you! As it is, I’ll be at home boozing it up myself, but it’s always better to not drink alone, right? ๐
Agree with all the others that have said we’re fed up and saddened by what’s happened to this show. Very disappointing.
I was hesitant last season when the talk of overhauling the judges took place. Now, I find myself thinking that 2 out of 3 of them definitely need to go. I’d keep Len, if only because, though his critiques are harsh at times, I feel like he actually scores more fairly than the other 2 dunderheads.
Last thing, I will be upset if Derek and Maria go. Personally, I think she’s far more talented than all but 2 or 3 of the remaining celebs and deserves a place in the remaining weeks. Just as I don’t think an off-night should send someone home, I don’t think a “good” or “redemption” night means someone should have a place in the finals.
*Sigh* Okay, back to work. I’ve wasted enough energy on this side-show this morning.
@Sandy: he is definately going to choose derek first.
I’m curious, what if Jaleel doesn’t get very many fan votes, is it likely he could end up in bottom three?
Okay vin – I’ll play ๐
Then if Kym chooses next… drumroll please, Would she choose Willy and Cheryl or Donald and Peta?
Well if she is smart William and Cheryl (just to get the judges attention)
I seem to remember in Season 10 that Cheryl/Chad were eliminated from the swing marathon for doing leapfrog-like movements over each other. How is sliding across the floor with a shirt open considered any different?
I’ve been a Melissa fan for a long time and I think her fan base is a lot larger than people think. She was on an iconic and unique show in the 70s and 80s and viewers of that show probably match up with DWTS viewers. She also had a book out less than 2 years ago which got her a lot of mainstream media at that time so she is just as known if not more known than some of the others. That being said, I’ll understand if she is eliminated based on her dance ability but will be sad about it. I’d like to see her try an Argentine-Tango.
Actually at this point, I’d rather see William and Katherine go than any of the others. Such a nice group of people this season and I’m enjoying seeing some of these “blasts from the past” in the spotlight again.
Some funny moments last night.
Loved it when Tom told Bruno to “stop being an electrician”.
Len was a riot when he stood up and shook his hips and said anyone in the room could do that. I could not make out what was said after that. Something about ecstacy and then a comment was mumbled. Did anyone catch that?
Maks: It could be worse.
Melissa: How?
Maks: You could have been stuck with an ugly partner.
So cute that Melissa finds Maks to be funny.
Roshon and Chelsie…in a way, I think their pre-dance package set them up for a fall. They emphasized his youth and lack of experience. I think maybe the producers should leave it alone and let the viewer be the judge of just how young and innocent his dance is.
This got me to thinking about Cody Linley. His scores were the same, 7-7-7.
His package also emphasized his youth and lack of romantic experience and then they showed him flipping around the room like a little boy while Julianne looked bored to tears.
Bruno said he was like a KID in a candy store.
Carrie Ann called the dance age appropriate and innocent.
@Sandy, I’m not sure if the team captains are the week’s 2 highest scorers or the season’s 2 highest scorers. So it’s either Katherine vs. Jaleel or Katherine vs. William – pretty different scenarios I think. If it’s K vs. W, no way for the judges or TPTB to shield them both…
@vin & @Sandy – I think you’re both operating under the assumption that the couples themselves will be choosing the teams – and based on the manipulation I’ve seen so far from TPTB, I would say it’s far more likely that they will TELL Katherine & Jaleel “You’re going to pick so-and-so, and then you’re going to pick so-and-so” etc. etc. etc. If they are indeed trying to shield Katherine & William from elimination, then I wouldn’t be surprised if both of them ended up on a team with Maria & Derek, and everyone else (Donald & Melissa, my best guess at this point) will end up on Team Jaleel. I’m actually kinda interested to see how Derek & Mark do on a team together – they’ve never been on the same team for a team dance. I think the smart thing to do would be for Mark to kinda take a back seat & let Derek do the choreography – but somehow I’m not so sure that Mark will willingly take a backseat. He seemed pretty commanding in the Team Chelsea cha-cha rehearsals in season 12…and I don’t see Derek as the type to make waves, so I could see him letting Mark take a bit of the lead, to the detriment of their team. Mark seems to love lots of flashy, complex choreo – while Derek has usually won the team dance with relatively simple, cleanly-executed choreo with interesting formations. It shall be interesting, indeed.
I hope their schenanigans/manipulation won’t put Donald in the danger zone..
Oh Gawd, could we get any more pimpage, then both Katherine and Willy on the same team. BARF! I might start watching my favorite contestants performances online and shitcan the regular timeslot. Besides, I think WNTW starts again tonight at 9:00, I’ll have to check and see.
Courtney, I would tend to agree with you about Mark not willing to take a back seat, but I remember many of the pros criticizing Derek for having it too easy and it not being fair that he was paired with Nicole, yet when they had him on the team dance they had no problem letting Derek take the lead. Even Maks had no problem with him taking the lead last season. It seems the pros respect Derek’s talent, and when it comes to benefiting themselves, they are willing to let him take over.
I would bet that if (hoping when) Derek and Maria are back next week that they will be the first team chosen, regardless of the team captains.
And Sandra, you’re right, I’m sure Jaleel meant the marbles as a joke, but unfortunately so many of his “jokes” get lost in translation with me. I think he thinks he’s a lot funnier than he comes across, which is too bad because coming into the season he was my favorite.
Totally agree with Voguerista’ rankings!
@Courtney: Thw team dances are always the dances that always allow the weaknesses to show more so I agree with you that Derek’s team choreography is better than Mark’s. All i keep thinking of is the team dance w chealsea and ralph and i honestly forgot who the other person was but nonetheless some of the celebs handled it well but others really looked like they were struggling.
one of the celebs and the others*
Sorry for another post regarding Chelsie and Roshon… But did Carrie Ann tell Chelsie to calm down, mellow and say “no mam” in the judging. I’m on little to no sleep so I might be hearing things.
Also gotta give major props to Melissa for calling out the editing of her and Maks together. I really like that lady!
So the 2 couples who are top of the leaderboard this week will choose their teams for the upcoming week?
# vin LOL!! my thoughts exactly!!! Tristan looked exactly like Tony Curtis .. loved the outfits!!
but…that is about all i loved about last night…the rest..just disgusting…as i said…they took a season that had the potential to be amazing and mess it completely up…the problem is is became so obvious that i often wonder i do i make so many efforts to see it..the answer being Derek of course…as i have the worst feeling ever although i voted for about 7.30 hours ..i won’t make any comment about last night…and i just love the show…bummer….
@dwtsfan – We don’t know for sure. We’re just speculating, based on how it has worked in the past.
@Steph – I tend to agree about the other pros letting Derek take the lead in the team dance, but the one thing that seems different with regards to Mark is history – I think so many years of being compared to his “brother” Derek have left him with a bit of a complex, and the way he behaves sometimes makes me wonder if he thinks he has to prove something. I do give him props for being much calmer and focused on his partner this season, but I have to wonder if getting put on the same team as Derek for the team dance could reignite a bit of sibling rivalry. I think deep down Mark knows that Derek is stronger in the team dance, but I have to wonder if his pride will let him yield to Derek in choreographing that dance.
Harriett, every one of Maks’s partners have called out the editing of their packages. This is nothing new. Nor is the fact they’re able to show this stuff because Maks gives it to them.
I guess all those people who stated that TPTB implemented the dance-off to protect Roshon were wrong.
Based on what happened last night, I’m reiterating my theory that TPTB implemented it to get viewers to watch DWTS on Tuesday night tinstead of The Voice. Continuing in that vein, I think TPTB realized that the dance-off was underwhelming last week so they needed to put some of the better dancers in jeopardy to create interest — thus the purposeful underscoring of Roshon and possible underscoring of Maria in the dance marathon. Roshon may have been targeted as well because of his supposedly younger fanbase, who might be more likely otherwise to watch The Voice.
In past years, Derek has deferred to Mark to the point of extreme annoyance on my part, IMO BECAUSE he knows Mark has a complex about him. He’s the classic younger brother jealous of the more popular older brother. I’m NOT so sure that Derek is willing to do that deferring any more. And he’d be wise to, based solely on his own history with the team dances. He’s never lost.
Lol at Derek and Mark sibling rivalry ;):). Tbh I dont want them to be in the same team.I would love to see them in charge of 2 different teams and see what they could create. Im a fan or Mark this season, but I think that choreography wise Derek edges him a little.
So far I am not loving Derek’s choreography this season and Im actually loving Mark’s Choreo;once again strange for me because I have always preferred Derek’s choreo in the past.
I am not faulting the judges for knocking Maria out of the Marathon. I said she should be next a im watching. Derek and her could’ve done a cool lift unlike Gladys. I think Derek was saving whatever thinking he wouldn’t go out so fast.
If it is a double eliminate I think it’ll be Gladys and Melissa. If its Melissa vs. Maria in the duel they Eileen definitely pick Maria cause she is the better dancer going forward. I just don’t see roshon going. Chelsie has a lot of fans and he has his Disney “family” behind him.
Do they usually have the team dances in Classical Week?
@Elsee – No, but they’re always done during week 7. It’ll be interesting to see what dances they pick for the team dances, as I doubt we’ll be seeing any classical cha-chas next week.
They may not have to bother with the double elimination if there’s a withdrawal… Apparently Maks was seen limping after the VW and went for an MRI this morning.
Loved Roshon again, he was great, will be so ticked if he is bottom 2 again.
He was out way too soon in the marathon.
Gladys & Tristan were adorable, he should get a 10 simply for how stinkin hot he is with those glasses on lol
I liked William & Cheryl’s Rhumba & Katherine & Mark’s dance but think both were overscored.
Katherine desereved the win in the marathon, sorry I know some here think she is being favoured but seriously she is by far the best dancer & should win this season, I also think they mark her high cause they like her, not anything to do with not getting enough votes.
Also sorry but Maria is bad, no amount of judges pimping which they have been obviously doing with her will work, Derek is so unwatchable this year thanks to her & the whole she is still injured crap is getting old, she is STIFF & has no idea in the Latin themed dances, that is clear after the mess that marathon dance was for them.
On the Derek&Mark topic I would just like to say they are both amazing choreographers. Mark is just a hair above in my mind because he pushes the envelope a bit more then Derek does. And I like something a bit weird or totally unexpected.
They are probably my top two choreographers on the show. I also love Kym’s work even if it’s a bit less showy and Karina truly rocks certain styles of dance choreo-wise.
I also think Chelsie is getting the hang of it, at least with a talented partner.
The ladies, especially K&K, are behind D&M in choreography but I think they more then make up for it with the ability to spark up the chemistry with their partner. It is a field that ladies dominate whereas male pros often struggle with it.
@Elsee, …. and in steps Val to take over for his big brother. Nope, they won’t withdraw even if Maks sits out for awhile.
Courtney, you are right. I have thought for a long time part of Mark’s bad attitude is his jealousy of Derek’s growing popularity. He has fallen into Derek’s shadow, and he is not handling it well.
@Elsee, no need for them to drop out, should Maks not be able to dance. They will most likely have Val fill in for him, until Maks can dance. But most likely, Maks will probably try to power through and keep going for Melissa, and we probably won’t know he’s hurt (unless we were told).
Still, I think Melissa and Maria are MOST in danger of going home tonight, and moreso Maria than Melissa… One had a great night of dance, and has already done the jive, and the other did not have a good night, and hasn’t danced jive yet.
The judges and TPTB really expect the pros to teach IN A COUPLE HOURS, something that they have to push to teach in 4 days????????????
Hmmm, still think the judges will save Maria even if Melissa dances an obvious better jive in the DD.
I don’t know, @Elsee, from what they said last week, the judges HAVE TO eliminate based solely on the dancing done in the dance duel. If Melissa does a better dance duel jive, they HAVE TO eliminate Maria. Or, they need to explain to the viewers that the whole plan was stupid and that they are simply making up the rules as they go, just like we already know they’re doing!
Question for the beige color posters (I do know they are moderators/admins, I just don’t want my comment to be put on the moderation list):
How exactly will team dances work with Classical Week? o.O
@Tony – We don’t have any details yet, but I’m not sure what exactly you mean – do you mean what kind of dances will they be doing? Or how they will pick the teams?
@Tony, NORMALLY, there’s an even number of people dancing team dances. NORMALLY, the top 2 from this week pick the teams, or, pick the teams producers tell them to pick. NORMALLY, they get together right after results to choreograph the team portion. And, depending on the pros, either they fight amongst themselves about what the “right” choreography is, or they defer to one pro who is known to be better and fair. NORMALLY, they will work on the team dance while working on their dance of the week, since each pair has a solo. NORMALLY, they get together at the end of the week to put everything together and put the finishing touches on it.
I’ve no idea what they’ll do this year, however.
Before the results show starts, I feel the need to throw in my two cents. While manipulation is NOT new to this show and probably dates back to the beginning, I don’t ever remember it being as blatant and disgusting as tonight *angry face* I actually liked the dancing, but the judges really ruined Week 6 for me.
Katherine/Mark-Yep, my twitter comment pretty much sums up everything I felt about this dance. I liked it and it wasn’t bad by any means, but it just didn’t ignite for me. And her legs were still a bit awkward. Overscored by about 3 points for me. As for the marathon, she did well for me, but I don’t think she should’ve won.
Jaleel/Kym-While I think he did his best dance tonight, I can’t get behind him getting a 29 or getting 3rd in the marathon whatsoever. His cha cha was well executed, but I still felt it was a bit stiff and I was totally bored by it. How it got a 29 I can’t fathom. I would’ve said 25 at the most. MAYBE 26. Jaleel got severely pimped along with William and Katherine for me.
William/Cheryl-I didn’t think this was bad at all either, but it was blatantly overscored too. He did have good hip action here and there, and it had some sexy moments, but overall, it still feels heavy and stiff. No way would I give it a 29, maybe a 24 or 25. Marathon:Don’t even get me started, I think he should’ve outlasted Gladys and Melissa, after that, I would’ve sent him out, if not Jaleel first.
Donald/Peta- While I don’t think it was his best, but I loved it still. Very fun and charismatic. It was smooth for the most part too, maybe some issues with arms and feet. He was scored fairly in the first round, but I would’ve gave him 2nd or 3rd place in the marathon.
Melissa/Maks- I was very proud of Melissa tonight. It was the most relaxed she’s been yet, and she had very pretty lines and some all around good dancing. When she relaxes, it makes a HUGE difference. Major kudos to her. But in the marathon: I would’ve tapped her out 2nd, after Glayds, sorry Melissa ๐
Maria/Derek-I actually loved her foxtrot. It was very gorgeous to me, and it was so smooth, light, elegant, and fun. I would’ve given it a 27, but I have a bias like everyone else. I can agree with 26 too. As for the marathon, I don’t think Maria should’ve won, but tapped out 2nd? I don’t agree. I would’ve kept her over Melissa and Gladys for sure, and probably over William and Jaleel.
Roshon/Chelsie- THIS is where I got uber ticked. The underscoring and mistreatment of these two tonight was even worse than Ralph. That Rumba was GORGEOUS, and I would’ve given it a 28. Was it a little jerky? Yeah, but how in the world could it have been 23? Ridiculous. And he deserved to WIN the marathon IMO, or at least get 2nd or 3rd. The judges want these two gone, and if they succeed, I”m going to raise serious umm…”stuff” (trying to keep it somewhat civil) if he gets sent home over judge manipulation.
Gladys/Tristan-I adore Gladys, really and truly. While I think this Rumba was cute and fun, after the evets of tonight, it got the right score. Based on dancing, Gladys should go, but not sure if that’ll happen. If she is in the dance duel, then probably. She may just have the juice to get out of it altogether though.
Worse case scenario for me is Maria and Roshon in the dance duel. Both couples got the shaft in some way (ESPECIALLY Roshon), and they should both last to the final 4 for me, but the judges are making it very possible for one to go home. I hope that Maria or Roshon goes against Gladys or Melissa. Fingers crossed that Maria and Roshon are safe tonight!
Sorry, my bad, William got 27 not 29, but my comment doesn’t change other than that.
*****Gavin, Karina, and Louis fans******
Gavin will perform new song “SWEETER” next weeks results show. Karina & Louis will dance to it!!!! Hey, guess ABC.COM got tired of Gavin’s fans emailing them lol ๐
On the topic of Derek and Mark possibly being on the same team for the team dances and how Mark and blank other pro should defer to Derek because he has never lost a team dance- I have to respectfully disagree with parts of that opinion. I personally believe that all the pros bring a special something to the table even if some are more talented than others. However, at this point in the competition of the pros left, I truly think they have all had their standout choreographic moments this season and that the team dances could be really great if they were more of a mutual “Team” effort. Looking at the past for who should be the leader of the teams I think can be good but I think context has to be applied while also thinking about how different this season has been from other seasons in terms of overscoring and such a variety of judges’ pets.
I personally think you have to take each season’s team dance on a case by case basis and shouldn’t just say Derek has won every time so he is the best at this. Of course, his perfect record is outstanding- I’m not disputing that- I just think a few other factors are at play as they always are. Honestly, Cheryl was on 3 of those teams, so I think some of those wins should also be jointly credited to her. When I look at the first three team dances its was Paso Doble versus Cha cha, Tango versus Mambo, and Tango versus Paso. Not to take anything away from Derek (and really Cheryl’s wins too) but consider the circumstances -Season 7- a team of a traveling Susan Lucci, new pro in Lacey (who while I’m not pro or con Lacey really, I truly believe that Len hates her and her choreography), and Cody with a step-in partner Edyta- really who thought that team would win especially when I think its slightly easier to get a Paso in synch than a Cha Cha. Season 8- again not the same dance and again I think the tango is easier to get in sync (Personal opinion- I thought that Mambo was underscored so the scores should have been a little closer to me) Season 9- A team of 4 couples competing against a team of 3 couples- how is that remotely fair? All that to say I just think I will wait to see if Derek and Mark are even on the same team, what the team dances actually are (if they are the same or not) and who the other pros on the teams are before I make any judgements. Anyways clearly these are all just my opinions- really I’m just excited for the team dance week and to see how it shakes out!
While it was nice to hear from some old Motown favs, some of the songs werenโt the best and I found it odd that the couples would just drop into the dance at some random moment. As for the dancing:
Gladys – Some nice rhytym, hip movement, smooth moves at times but missing in Rumba content. The song and bent legs particularly distracted me. A test of fan base tonight. In trouble for sure if she ends up in a dance duel.
Maria – The song was noticeably off-time in places. Despite the hiccups, Maria is capable of exquisite ballroom frame. Really liked the character and choreography of this dance.
Katherine – Always technically superior, yet this was not my fav dance of hers. While not sure her classical style best served by Markโs contemporary choreography, I appreciated his creativity in merging Motowning the Samba (and I immediately found myself looking forward to Heidiโs comments on those gold spats ๐ ).
Roshon – I liked this a whole lot more than the judges! He surprised me in capturing the mood of the dance and partnering Chelsea. I too thought he was very lyrical and musical with his arms and his style was nicely incorporated into this dance.
Melissa – Alas Maks choreographed to her strengths and Melissa had her best dance yet. All-in-all, he didnโt seem so domineering on the floor. Rehearsal may be another matterโฆ
Donald – Has yet to disappoint me and partners Peta beautifully. Still see him thinking at times and agree with judges in that Peta can showcase him more (not that he has pansy routines.
Jaleel – MUCH improved and one of the routines that I think the live performer actually worked better in.
William – Another great partnerer and what he did was nice, but agree with the judges on that he is more capable.
Marathon – Gladys & Maria placement I agree with. Melissa shoulda been pulled before Roshon and he, Jaleel and Donald all shoulda outlasted William on content. From the bit we saw, Katherine looked to have dream Cha-Cha form, though was not as flashy as the other contestants (save the costuming – Tomโs correlated zingers were the TRUE winner of that contest!).
Anyway, I fear we may lose a capable dancer tonight (namely Jaleel, Roshon or Maria).
@Court and Lori: Oops. I should have specified. I mean in terms of dances and songs. Classical week seems to be a strange week to do team dances.
[…] Courtney: Assumed there would be a double elimination, and predicted Gladys to go home outright, with Roshon & Maria duking it out in the jive duel with Maria ultimately getting saved.ย Thought there was a minute chance of Melissa landing in the duel with Roshon, in which case Roshon would be saved. […]