Dancing with the Stars 2012 Emmy Nominations!!
And the nominees are….
OUTSTANDING HOST
TOM BERGERON
Cat Deely
Phil Keogan
Ryan Seacrest
Betty White
Jeff Probst not nominated and he usually wins. I would say Tom or Cat were a shoe in, if not for Betty White.
OUTSTANDING REALITY PROGRAM
DANCING WITH THE STARS
So You Think You can Dance
The Amazing Race
Top Chef
Project Runway
The Voice
TAR wins this one every season.
OUTSTANDING CHOREOGRAPHY
Travis Wall, Without You (DWTS)
Stacey Tookey, SYTYCD
Christopher Scott, SYTYCD
Spencer Liff, SYTYCD
Joshua Bergnasse, Smash
I don’t know whether to rant about this now or save it for later. I KNEW when they had Travis on DWTS that our choreographers were going to get shut out of this category. I predicted it back when the show was on this last season. Let’s just say I’m pissed off at this nomination and I’m pissed off at this category – it is unbelievably slanted toward anything that is not ballroom. They didn’t even list the nomination ballots on the website like they did for everything else. I spent a long time looking for it.
OUTSTANDING HAIR STYLING FOR A MULTI CAMERA SERIES OR SPECIAL
DWTS for episode 1407 (season 14, week 7)
OUTSTANDING LIGHTING DESIGN FOR A VARIETY SERIES
DWTS for Episode 1307
OUTSTANDING MAKE UP FOR A MULTI CAMERA SERIES
DWTS for Episode 1307
OUTSTANDING TECHNICAL DIRECTION, CAMERAWORK, VIDEO CONTROL FOR A SERIES
DWTS for Episode 1410A
That one makes me chuckle a bit, considering how often Courtney and I put camera gaffes in our Cheesecake Awards. 😀
That was all the nominations I saw – now Vogue will go behind me and make sure I didn’t leave anything or anyone out. And look at the Choreo again, would ya?? I think it drove me temporarily insane and I might have missed something. 🙂
UPDATE: Vogue here with some Emmy nomination reactions from Tom Bergeron, Travis Wall, and the Dancing With The Stars Make-Up Team….
Tom tweeted, “Probst will still find a way to win this thing!” He’s a crack up as always.
From ET, Travis Wall said, “I can’t believe that our dance company’s (Shaping Sound) first performance on TV got an Emmy nomination. I am elated! It’s amazing to have a nomination two years in a row but it’s surreal to have this nomination with my best friends!”
Also, from the Dancing With The Stasrs Make-up Team at facebook, they wrote: “Great news today! The Dancing with the Stars Makeup Team has been nominated for an Emmy Award!!! We hope to bring it home for a 2nd time. Please wish us luck!!!”
No, you didn’t miss anything. The nominating committee missed a lot! I want to know who these people are and what their connection is with Nigel. I have only watched snippets of THAT show. It seems to me from what I saw, anyone can dance like that, especially the trained dancers that are performing. DWTS is so unique because most of the dancing is being done by amateurs taught by amazing pros. And they are doing dances that have strict rules. These pros have to cram in choreo, teaching, costume design, lighting-music-camera angles all into 5 days! What is wrong with TPTB? Why don’t they use Nigel’s tricks to campaign for our phenomenal pros!
The last insult will be that Betty White (who I do love) will win the Emmy for hosting (?) and our beloved Tom will be screwed yet again!
Checked it twice through. You did it!!
And Linz… +1 on everything you’ve said. I love Betty White, but, Tom is the most deserving in the host category.
Let’s rant now…UN-FREAKIN-BELIEVABLE. So if you have unbelievable dance and choreography skills, and you’re not just jumping and floppin around, you can forget about getting nominated with this “rat’s nest” There’s been talk 4 weeks that this is what would happen. And for Travis Wall to be nominated for DWTS OVER Derek or perhaps Louis beyond wrong. We all know Derek/Chelsie’s paso was great but his paso w/Anna perhaps and his Psycho Tango (for the design of the dance alone) and of course, the gypsy dance were EVEN BETTER. It’s criminal .
And also, if Derek doesn’t get new representation, he is gonna continue to miss opportunity after opportunity. I really think that plays a part in this…There just is NO reasonable excuse for this. It is getting to be just like the poitical game. The people who represent”the people” have no grip on what the people want or need. In this case, if you aired those nominated dances and Dereks and Louis’s dances they choreographed on one big show and had “the people” vote, I guarantee you, one at least one and probably ALL would be winners. Little clique needs to get broken up.
Odd nominations this year. glad to see bill ahder nominated BUT I think that if edie falco can get nominated foe comedy actress then Lea Michelle sould have taken that spot. her perfromance i nthe finale alone was amazing.
It has nothing to do with Derek’s representation and everything to do with how the choreography nominations are handled (Derek actually has pretty good representation – and a lot of it) – it’s done by a panel and if you don’t have ins with the panel you’ve got nothing. These are all choreographers/dancers and they aren’t going to be as influenced by someone’s PR rep like they would be by someone like Nigel Lithgow. The second problem is one that Courtney and I have talked about a lot and that is the bias against ballroom. Most of the people voting and on the panels don’t have a clue – and likely aren’t schooled in or able to do ballroom. I believe Courtney also said that there is the perception that Ballroom is all technique and no emotion. Horseshit.
It’s not just Derek, either. Louis’ AT on SYTYCD was incredible and beautifully danced. Derek and Allison’s dance – amazing. Derek and Anna’s Paso….Karina’s results show dance with the ballet dancer….I’m sure there are more. Now, the last season was rather low on the choreo scale, I will say – but Season 13 was packed. Unlike LAST season, NONE of the nominated dances other than Travis and the one from Smash are recognizable to me by name. And SYTYCD is off to a very slow start again this season. But that won’t prevent them from getting the Lion’s share of the nominations again next year.
I won’t run down SYTYCD – I watch it and enjoy it. But you do have a leg up on the competition when you are choreographing for trained dancers in every single dance, as opposed to the occasional results show piece.
On a side note, Tom is def going to win this year 🙂 Betty White can’t even beat him and thats saying a lot.
I’m actually surprised about the ballroom thing too…if it not DWTS there is at least one from SYTYCD.
Tom tweeted this morning that he thinks Probst will find a way to win…lol.
Travis being nominated for DWTS was just luck cause it aired on DWTS and not another show. That particular dance is by far my favorite he has done and deserves the nomination.
Well, Derek should be in Christopher Scott’s place – especially after two incredibly shitty routines last night.
Yes, that “panel”…judges are decided “by a secret process”…as U said, horseshit. They obviously don’t have a clue and isn’t it strange how people who get to vote on things don’t have to have any knowledge of it?..IMO SYTYCD has had it’s moments but for the most part it is the same old thing over and over…and some of these ridiculous storyline, interpretive dances, beyond cheesey.
And yes with those others I mentioned I meant to also include Karina’s dance with Jose'(it was stunning)..was that choreo’d by Louis, as well? Or Karina?
TRavis And Teddy are already so insufferable, imagine if they win? Good chance of winning too. IBut free publicity for their new dance company, I guess. Tbh, of the big Macy’s stars of dance numbers, I felt the one choreo by Misha Gabriel was better. That was the number with all the guys dancing including Twitch, Kenny, Travis and all. But I get why it was nominated. Great group number with theatrics. Even if I am tired of Teddy and Travis’ toe point, lift, emo choreo.
It is a shame that many lovely dances from pros ignored. Ballroom lacking emotion? Who was not moved by Anna and Jonathan’s lovely vw for their friend?
I have seen every season of sytycd. I thought last year was a weak year for them. Funny thing is from last year, felt Sonya Tayeh had some amazing dances yet she is snubbed. I remember the Spencer Liff pieces. Fun but took me awhile to remember. Now Christopher Scott, I love his group numbers. Not his pairs ( they are bad like that dentist routine last night) but guessing his nomination is for that great door group piece he did last year. Probably get another one next year his LXD and mad men group number.
I was hoping Allison and Derek would get a nomination as that was just artistry in motion. I am upset this got snubbed in particular but now I am just disappointed that pros in general not rewarded for their amazing work. Not that Derek or any pro needs Emmys for validation but would be nice.
I always say Emmys showed how off they were for ignoring The Wire. Now I will add the pro snubs are more proof, lol.
PH, could not agree more! Christopher Scott should have to give up that nomination after those awful dances! Derek should have that slot or the mysterious sixth slot missing this year.
I saw there are only five nominees in this category. Last year there were six and six in other categories this year.
And next week we get to hear the incredibly smug Nigel Lithgow crow on and on about his wonderful choreographers. Dude, please – most people know how political the Emmys are and you’re just a better ass kisser than most. Not to mention that you have probably ten times as many dances that qualify in a given year than your competition does, seeing as how all the dancers are professional and execution is half the game.
Has Betty White lost anything that she has been nominated for? I am not sure that she has.
Hey, we all love Betty White and just in stamina alone she should be rewarded but, I want Tom to win, I think he deserves it and it has been a long time coming. 🙂
On another note, Does anyone watch Project Runway? I have watched it since its inception. DWTS is and always will be my number 1 show, but Project Runway is also one of my favorites. Tim Gunn is awesome.
Derek should go on sytycd and choreo a group number. I have seen Jason G. Do amazing group ballroom pieces for sytycd Australia. Maybe that will help. Kinda like Nigel’s pet Travis might win his first Emmy with dwts, maybe Derek going on sytycd to finally get his win. Then again that ballroom bias. To be fair, Dmitry did get nominated on sytycd so they have done it before.
Nigel being a blowhard is why DVRs were created. Cannot wait to just ffwd past him like every episode, lol.
#Sandy, about Betty White, I was thinking the exact same thing.
Tom so deserves the nom and the Emmy..He is the BEST. Head and shoulders above th others…and a sweetheart I might add.
I think Conrad should wake up and realize that pimping SYTYCD is not the way to go. Someone should clue him in on what Nigel is doing to ruin dwts. Why Why Why did Conrad let this happen?
Was Dmitry part of Dwts when he was nominated?
Agree Chris Scott is hit or miss but his TAP number last season was amazing.
I also would love to see Derek choreograph for SYTYCD a paso would be awesome. Mark could have gotten one if it hadn’t been so late in the season.
Well I honestly can’t say I’m surprised. But I am incredibly ticked. Seriously? I respect Christopher, but he’s been having brain farts left and right for a while. Louis’s AT?? Incredible. Far more worthy. Really haven’t cared for Stacey lately, Derek and Allison’s Latin fusion dance should be in there.
I can’t even say the choreography Emmy’s are THAT great an achievement anymore. Because all you need is for someone like Nigel to kiss ass for you and you’re good to go. Add to that, like several above have stated, those are TRAINED dancers in those SYTYCD pieces. Makes them look better than they really are. When the pros choreograph on DWTS, they have an amateur, and the fact they’re making such fantastic routines with partners who have little to no training is more than impressive. All I can say is bleh. I could understand not having ballroom in if their haven’t been any great routines lately, but yet, there HAVE been. And there have been a bunch of SYTYCD routines from those very same nominated choreographers that were utter crud.
I’m probably going to put my foot through the screen next week when Nigel Cocky-McKissAss brags about the nominations.
As for the host nominations, yeah, Tom SHOULD win. Or Cat. Sorry Betty, I love you, but it’s Tom’s time. Or at least Cat’s.
I don’t even remember Travis’s dance, or who he is. all of the other DWTS dances listed above, are clear images in my mind. The least they could’ve done is nominate Derek and Allison. One of the most amazing dances I’ve seen, I’ll never get tired of watching it.
I’m surprised no one is commenting on SMASH getting one of the choreography nominations.
If Derek couldn’t get one for his dance with Allison, then Mark wasn’t going to get one for anything with Katherine, that’s for sure.
No, Maddy, Dmitry was nominated for SYTYCD.
I think it’s more about SYTYCD that it is about Ballroom, although I think the bias is there. Nigel is a SERIOUS campaigner.
Well, I love Smash and really, I’m glad something other than SYTYCD is in there. Would die laughing if they managed to win. 🙂
The Emmy’s r a freakin joke. Just watched Travis’s dance to refresh my memory. The dancing and choreo were good(Dereks choreo IMO), but one thing that just ruined it for me was you could the the harness the girl was wearing. Really little thing. I knew she was wearing one, but when I saw it the effect was ruined. What bothers me about the nomination is the commitees bias against ballroom. I think Jonathan and Anna had amazing emotion and artistry, more than Travis’s piece, but it was a waltz. But this is just my opinion.
Tom FTW!
Emmy nominations aside I’m still glad that dance is on tv and I hope it stays that way
You are so right Heidi! I so hope Smash wins! Wish we all had a vote.
As for Nigel, I never watch SYTYCD – just caught a snippet the other night. I couldn’t stand the host or judges. Does Mary realize she is miked – she was yelling! As much as the DWTS judges can get annoying at times, this group is totally unbearable. As for the dancing, I couldn’t take much of the arm flapping, lunging, stomping – this is something you can see anywhere. No beauty in that. Ballroom dancing is much more difficult. There are so many rules, but the dancing is poetry in motion. The pros have 5 days to choreo, teach, design costumes, consult for lighting, camera angles, and music and the results are spectacular.
I blame TPTB for this fiasco. How do you put in nomination and support a SYTYCD dancer over a DWTS pro? Derek’s dances with Allison, DAD Paso with Anna, and the Psycho Tango with Ricki were all so amazing! Once again, TPTB let us down; and we now have the reveal for the All Stars. My bet is that TPTB will completely crush us again!
Kinda echoing what Heidi said about the blatant bias against ballroom in these nominations, one word I hear tossed around quite a bit by some non-ballroomers is “organic”. “Ballroom’s so inorganic!” “Ballroom’s so disingenous!” “Ballroom is so unemotional!” Which, I agree with Heidi, is horseshit 🙂 Not only is there no rule that says every single dance that is choreographed must be deeply rooted in some personal, emotional experience, but ballroom can be just as emotional as any contemporary routine – in fact, I would argue that it often expresses a greater range of emotion that a lot of contemporary routines, as the underlying theme of a lot of the contemporary routines I see nominated year after year is “angst”. At least with ballroom, we get anger (paso doble), passion (rumba), joy (jive), celebration (samba), and flirtatiousness (cha-cha). In truth, I think a lot of the bias against ballroom lies in its intimidation: each dance has a different vocabulary of steps and technique to learn, and a different tempo. Contemporary dance, while versatile, has really only once vocabulary of technique; they also are not NEARLY as limited by musical phrasing, rhythm, and tempo. I think ballroom scares a lot of dancers because there is a “right” and “wrong” for every dance – I would argue that there really isn’t a “right” or “wrong” for contemporary. When the basis of contemporary is so deeply rooted in emotional expression and creative freedom, I can see why so many of them get a bit spooked when suddenly they’re handed a ballroom dance that is considerably less open to interpretation.
Christopher Scott may have completely tanked last night on SYTYCD, but I do think the 2 routines for which he was nominated are legitimately good routines – and thankfully for him, the noms are judged solely by the body of work that was submitted. I wouldn’t hold out for a repeat nom next year if I were him, though. But “Misty Blue” was my favorite routine last season, and I am glad it got nominated. I actually really enjoyed Chris’ baseball number for Cyrus, Brandon, & Cole on the “Meet the top 20” special this season, and the “Architect of the Mind” piece he choreographed for the top 20 on last week’s show…and I didn’t really mind his two routines last night, per se. They weren’t my favorites, but they weren’t the worst I’ve seen, either. Now Eliana & Cyrus’ jive, on the other hand…
Drawing almost a complete blank on Stacey & Spencer – I vaguely remember a bed routine by Stacey & a routine with a jail cell by Spencer last season. Never watched Smash, so I can’t really comment on the choreo there. Travis? *eye roll* I loved his stuff at first, but now I think he’s reached a Mia Michaels level of overratedness for me. He’s the SYTYCD “wunderkid”, a shining feather in Nigel’s cap, as he can claim to have fostered Travis’ choreographic skills during Travis’ tenure on the program as both a contestant and a choreographer. I’m not the gambling kind, but if Nigel does his usual ass-kissing this go-round, I see Travis walking away with this one, easy.
Wait. This is the category where more than one of the nominees can win, right? Like there can be 2-3 winners?
My two favorite hosts got Emmy nominations, Tom and Ryan. Now who am I going to root for. I think they are both the glue that holds their shows together, my two favorite shows. I do not think I have missed an episode of either show. Okay, I will pick Tom to win! My next choice, Ryan! I like Nick Lachey, too, who was host of the Sing Off.
Not sure how this is going to sound, but I think I’m rooting for Smash to win this… While I’m glad that they did allow DWTS to have it’s one token nomination, I’m upset that they chose a NON-DWTS choreographer to represent our show.
I saw Smash once, it’s about trying to put together a Broadway show, I think….
@Lois, same here.
However, do you actually THINK that anyone other than Betty White will win this award?
Other than that, I think both Tom and Ryan deserve the award. I think I’d be happy for either one.
I just watched the other dances and decided Spencer Liff’s nom surprises me the most. I rewatched them and he jail routine seemed like a rip off of choreo from Cry Baby, not sure how that is Emmy worthy. I normally accept ballroom is overlooked but dwts had so many good routines that it is upsetting to see the one dwts choreo nom come from not a pro.
Dwts did not hurt any pro. Teddy and Travis submitted it for consideration. I doubt dwts took the time to ask Travis and Teddy if they could submit it for them. Like actors, pretty sure their representation put their Emmy reel together.
Yeah , there can be multiple winners but hope Smash wins by itself. I do not even watch the show but just upset at the noms from at least one choreo from sytycd.
Courtney, how can they be judged in the same category. There are elements and steps that must be included in ballroom…are arm flailing and pelvic pumps elements?? waaaay to subjective and repetitive. And the lack of emotion argument from whomever is once again, horseshit(the phrase of the day!!)
Oh and I forgot to add, I dare anyone to try, with a straight face, to compare “arm flailing” to corte’s.gancho’s and arrastre’s. The “hold” alone in those increases the difficulty level beyond the schlock offered up most of the time on SYTYCD.
Linz, I’m seeing this a lot on twitter and it’s just wrong – OF COURSE the DWTS producers submit Derek and ALL OF THE PROS for Emmy nominations. There is no limit on submissions of different people I think there is only a limit on how many submissions an individual choreographer and I’m not even sure of that. The rules are so freakin’ hard to read that it’s ridiculous. Quit harassing the producers for not submitting DWTS pros for nominations – it’s nonsensical and I know that it’s not true. If you want to bitch at the producers for something, tell them to let the freakin’ pros do all the choreography for the results show, period. When you start filling up the results show with outside acts, this is going to happen. Frankly speaking, it is RARE that a pro/celeb dance is going to get nominated because the celebs are not professional dancers and the execution sometimes suffers. But when there are virtually no dances that are JUST dances and not supporting an artist on a results show? You aren’t going to get nominations. Combine that with SYTYCD having many dances every week with professional dancers? They get the lions share of the attention in addition to it all being weighted toward contemporary.
You are focusing your ire on the wrong people, really – when the whole community is so weighted toward contemporary with thinly veiled derision directed toward DWTS we have a problem. And it sucks.
The rules are kinda foggy on that, Court (re: multiple winners) and it seems to change every freakin’ year. One year, there were two winners, since then there has only been one. Everything is done by committee which stinks to high hell.
Melissa is correct about the submissions and I forgot to add that in my post to Linz. While the DWTS producers DO submit multiple dances for each pro, it is entirely possible that Travis submitted on his own. That’s perfectly legitimate and legal.
Again, you want to complain, complain about the producers filling up the results show with outsiders. I get why our pros might be hesitant, since they are busting their buts working with partners, but pro dances sans musical act are really the only things that have a shot against the all pro dancing on STYCD.
Betty will win the Emmy, and if it can’t be Tom then I am okay with it being Betty. But her show “Off Your Rocker” is terrible.
I also like The Amazing Race and watch that every season. And as I stated above, Project Runway is one of my favorites as well, and the Season 10 (I believe its 10) Premiere is tonight. YAY!
I think only one year, the year Derek had two nominations, is when they had one winner. Last I checked, they went back to multiple winners.
Now what confused me is in the past, Travis could not be nominated for dwts. He did choreo for dwts before. He could only submit work from sytycd. So I am confused here. Did Travis submit his own from sytycd or did he think his dance with Teddy Florance had a better shot so he submitted that only? Or has the rules allowed choreographers from multiple shows to submit. Meaning Travis submitted solo for sytycd but also got to submit with Teddy for dwts. Up to last year, that I know, that was not allowed.
This category is not fair. If you separate ballroom and give it it’s own, what about hip hop? Or jazz? Or ballet? Or musicals? Then Glee and Smash would just take all those spots for choreography for a musical category.
So happy for Tom but Betty never loses. Tom or Cat deserve to win. I also like Phil. As for the show’s nomination, not likely to win. At least they still got a nom unlike Idol.
PH, I was looking at the rules and was confused on the number of nominees too. I asked earlier and could not find it. Others have six but this only has five.
I wish like all the other categories, they would reveal the ballots so we can see what was submitted.
I like Project Runway too as well but I feel TAR deservedly wins. Amazing what they do to put that show on the air and editing while they travel.
@Linz #28 Totally agree!!
Pretty sure there was only one winner last year, Melissa.
You can submit from multiple shows – it has to be multiple submissions though (each one costs a few hundred dollars). Like when Derek was nominated twice – he was nominated as part of a team with Chelsie and then he had two dances in one nomination as a body of work from DWTS. But if he had choreographed for SYTYCD, that would be a separate submission of a body of work. I THINK, how he probably was submitted this last time was once with Allison, once with Anna and then a third submission as a “body of work” which can have up to three dances. Mark was nominated once with three dances in one nomination. As I read it, if you are on two different shows, you have to do two different submissions – but you aren’t limited to one show or the other. You have to read the main part of the rule AND the choreo part of the rules, not just the choreo. Of course, that’s rather confusing.
As for the number of nominations, it appears that the committee decides that. They could have as few as one nomination if the people on the committee think only one is worthy. I think for a piece to get a nomination, it has to get a perfect score from a majority of the committee – that part is from memory, I would have to check to be sure. Oddly, looking back – it appears that the only time in the past few years that there has been six nomination is when there is an awards show in the mix. And that seems to coincide with years that there have been two winners. Again, that’s from memory…
Frankly, they change the rules every year…hence the note on the front page that changes from the previous year are in red.
Two winners last year: Mia and NappyTabs.
I know you can do multiple submissions, but I remember a few years ago Travis did not submit his dwts dance which featured his brother because he could not. He said he could only submit sytycd. Three pieces but only from one show. I guess that has changed since then he got a dwts submission nom and not a sytycd nom. Of course this is based on my assumption he submitted for sytycd too. Maybe Travis put faith in his dance company tv debut routine.
I still wish we could see the submissions. I am curious to see what was submitted by Derek and the pros.
Thanks for the refresher on the rules and I am left wondering still how did Spencer Liff get a nom. Confused how those dances got a high score over dwts pros. How can critics say Karina’s moving rumba with JR lacked emotion? I know it is all subjective but even from sytycd, think other choreographers were more deserving.
Don’t understand why he couldn’t unless he had some deal with Nigel about not submitting on DWTS – Travis’ nomination doesn’t benefit SYTYCD if it’s on DWTS – it benefits DWTS. Nigel can’t claim it like he ordinarily would. Of course, you have to have made a substantial contribution to a piece in order to submit it – if there was contribution from several other dancers, he likely couldn’t submit, or if the choreo changed significantly during the rehearsals. The show would give him credit, but he wouldn’t technically be able to submit it under his name. This is from this years Emmy rules:
There is also this which could make him ineligible:
If he adapted movie choreo for a TV performance, it’s not eligible.
It said very clearly in the rules that there can be more than one winner and that the number of nominations is dependent on how the committee scores the submissions. I don’t think that has changed.
Here’s what it says under choreo:
Because of how weirdly that’s worded, I think it means two choreographers on a team, at most – Entries are limited to two entrants. Of course that could also mean that an individual choreographer or an identical team can only have two entries – so if Travis was already submitting two from SYTYCD, he couldn’t do any from DWTS. This season if he had only one entry from SYTYCD, he could also have an entry from DWTS. But he could have had more since his DWTS one was a team and on SYTYCD he usually goes alone.
So there are 12 Jurors – according to the rules, it has to be unanimous (which makes it OH SO easy to cut someone out):
We know that they do list nominations – but I wonder if that’s for the benefit of the TV broadcast?? That is, they already know who won right now and give out the top five so they can announce at the awards show. Of course, it states throughout that specific groups can alter the rules for that group with permission. This confusion is why I always find reading the rules gives me a headache.
All I can say is I’m pissed about right now. There were so many amazing performances in the past two seasons from our pros. How could they be snubbed on this level and to pour salt on a wound Travis’ routine is entered as a nominee for DWTS. I say “horseshit” to that!!
I’m so thoroughly disappointed, seriously. How could they overlook Derek/Allison, Anna/Jonathon an even Karina’s performance. Weird me, I thought we were going to see two DWTS pros go for the Emmy-what a major let down.
Heidi, I agree that we should complain to the producers about using their own pros more for their result show performances.
What a let down… I can’t even stand to see Nigel’s smug face. He is so jealous of our talented pros and he very well should be because they are on a totally higher level than the pros on SYTYCD.
Thanks for the info, PH. Very informative! Would love to the submissions and wish we could settens dwts pro routine scores. But I do know that is not revealed. The rule is different than in past. The past years said the pieces had to specifically come from the same show. That particular piece, this was a couple years ago, Travis did solo and he could not submit it. He was not nominated that year anyway so that was moot. Wish we had that rule this year, sigh. I also wonder who changes these rules and whose benefit? We see who benefitted this year.
I do not mind if stars of dance pieces are nominated. Thought Jamal Sims deserved one for what he did on dwts in season 12. But I think when there are, as Dee listed a few pros right there, many Emmy worthy routines enjoyed by a broad audience and dance critics, overlooked the bias seems evident and that is upsetting.
It is no wonder some of the pros have developed pretty shitty attitudes on DWTS. I;ve been looking periodically to see if anyone from TPTB have said one word about this…not a single one I can find….You can bet your you-know-what if this situation was reversed and DWTS got all the noms SYTYCD got, the bitching and moaning would be deafening. The dancers on SYTYCD are praised, pimped,propped up ad nauseum, and harped about both during the show and otherwise by judges, producers etc. I am understanding more now why DWTS judges get so verbose at times, praising the choreography(but really it is minimal in comparison). But otherwise, looks to me the AMAZING jobs all the pros do, teaching a non-dancer not only a REAL dance with required steps and elements but also making it beautiful and entertaining, is just taken for granted. There are a couple of pros on this show I have some real problems with, but almost every single one of them do a great job. There have only been a few cases that were unwatchable(MasP, Macy Grey)and it certainly wasn’t for lack of effort by the pro.
Yeah, in comparison, the pros on DWTS get treated pretty shoddily and apparently no-one in charge has their backs or even realizes how amazing they really are . This show broughtdance back to mainstream America and it was the pros that did the work and made people take notice and several outstanding pros like Derek Hough, Karina and Louis that elevated the standards even higher. Shame on the producers, the Emmys and the “secret process” used to set up the panel that decides this travesty.
I hate to say this, because I KNOW OUR PROS SO SO SO deserve an emmy, but I wonder what would happen if anyone from DWTS refused to submit anything for consideration…. Afterall, it seems the rules, and the people on the committee are SO anti-ballroom, if there would be a fit raised, if DWTS said, “since the bias is against our show, we just won’t put anyone for consideration…” Probably nothing, but at least WE KNOW our show has superior choreographers.
That had to be more than three years ago, Melissa …otherwise it’s not different. This isnt the first year I’ve studied the rule. It also says on the front page that changes are in red. No changes in the sections I quoted. Because of Derek, I’ve been reading the rules for a few years now.
How do you know that travis couldn’t submitt because he submitted on SYTYCD when they don’t reveal the submissions? And how do you know there wasn’t another reason?? Did Travis say why he couldn’t?
Well, consider this – if the producers seriously gave the pros their due, they would actually have to pay them what they’re worth. We can’t have that. The pros, in many cases, are bigger names than their partners – yet they used to be paid a fraction of what the “stars” get. It’s entirely possible that pros like Derek, Maks and Cheryl have renegotiated to the point they are doing much better – but I doubt it’s as good as the celebs.
PH, yes it was a few years ago probably about three years ago. I was not paying attention to the change since then. Besides him mentioning it, I remember that rule because it specifically said multiple submissions but from the same program. But it has clearly changed since then so thanks for clearing that up. And not an issue for this season since Travis and Teddy got the nomination.
“I can’t believe that our dance company’s (Shaping Sound) first performance on TV got an Emmy nomination. I am elated! It’s amazing to have a nomination two years in a row but it’s surreal to have this nomination with my best friends!” – yeah not trying to be mean but if thisbecomes a yearly trend they better make ballroom its own catagory.
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My thoughts exactly…
Derek not being nominated is a travesty.
I think Derek and Hugh Lauire not getting nominated are the two biggest snubs this tiem around. I would say Glle getting snubbed was pretty bad but then I realized that while I love the show and thought season 3 (minus the NYADA storyline) was pretty good.
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