Hope Solo on Maks and DWTS – Opinion
I’m sure that many of you saw the excerpts from Hope’s book tweeted by @DWTSGossip yesterday. While it appears that we cover every single thing DWTS related, we actually don’t. We tend to stay far away from pure, unadulterated, unsubstantiated gossip, particularly when it involves private lives or people’s livelihoods. So, when Vogue read those pages, she asked me what to do about it. I took it to the group and we here are PureDWTS had a bit of discussion on just what to do about it.
The end result of that discussion was that we would give our *opinions* on what we read, but we would not be re-posting those pages for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is the potential for copyright infringement. If you must read them, by all means, go buy the book. We do have limits on just what we will post, but as this book speaks directly to DWTS production we figured we would at least comment on it. I’m up first. And I don’t quite know where to start. Except that I would remind everyone to remember that this is HOPE’S point of view and Maks has not been given the opportunity to respond OR defend himself. He has responded, somewhat, on Twitter and as you might imagine he is not happy at all, and he does give the impression that this is all lies by an “opportunist”. (See Notes at bottom.)
I am not a Maks fan, but I don’t think he’s a horrible human being or any such thing. He’s flawed, like most people are. I think that we have to assume that much of what Hope said about their interaction is true…to a point. After all, we saw some of it on camera. And she does say that they had plenty of good times that, of course, weren’t shown. I have to say, though, that Maks knows that by now and should have warned Hope accordingly. Instead he plays into productions hands time and again and then whines about it. On top of that, most everyone who is a regular at this site knows that I was appalled by his behavior that was shown at the time. Nothing makes that right. And if he actually hit her like she claims?? There is no excuse for that. But I would be lying if there wasn’t a large part of me that really wondered about the veracity of a lot of her comments. How much is inflated to sell her book…and get us talking just like we are?
Part of the reason I wonder such things is that some of her claims are so outlandish. As we have discussed many times on this site, the show can’t be rigged the way she says that Maks told her…that he had been told that there was a “secret memo” that said who was to be eliminated each week, and that they were going home so he was just causing drama to get ratings and get them to stick around longer. That may have been the end result…but it’s not determined in advance. There are rules in reality TV, believe it or not. Then all her claims that they were dancing a dance that was so much better and so much harder than everyone else’s, that no one else could do it. Um, really? I don’t remember that dance at all. If Maks was actually telling her that, he’s either delusional, or trying to build her confidence – and based on the whole section about where it looked like she was saying “F*^k you” to the judges I would have to say the latter.
What is up with her claim that Maks watched the video and they talked and decided to continue, yet “Whitney” asked to see it and was told it doesn’t exist – what is she trying to get at there? That they destroyed the evidence or something? Sounds weird – and unlikely. Also, at the risk of sounding like I’m blaming the woman…why on earth would you assume that Maks’ behavior was okay and just “how it was done”?? In what universe is that okay? And you’re not married to him – you can walk away. No, I’m not excusing it, just wondering how much revisionist history is at work here on Hope’s part. Really, the only reason you stuck it out was because you would be spun to look bad in the media? REALLY?? Frankly, I don’t know what to think at this point. I know Maks behaved badly, but that badly?? And why is Hope the only person that had this serious of an issue with Maks in all his many seasons?? Again, I’m not a Maks fan – but this does seem rather opportunistic to me. Clearly, from Maks’ recent tweets re: the Olympics, he thought they were friends. Mistake.
Well, I’m going to ask my cohorts to contribute, provided that they’ve read the excerpts before @DWTSGossip pulled them down after getting a bunch of flack. Some from Lizzie Grubman who called her “mean”. Come on, Lizzie, @DWTSGossip didn’t write the book. You’re shooting the messenger. I don’t know what else to say. Maybe I will think of something, based on what they say.
Additional Heidi Notes: The above was written yesterday afternoon, before Maks had his say at both TMZ and Hollywood Gossip – and as hard as some of you may find this to believe, I tend to believe that the slap didn’t happen. Hope’s story just has too many crazy things in it. The problem for Maks, unfortunately, is that just enough of it is true to make the rest of it seem plausible. The best lies, after all, are those mixed in with a bunch of truth. What behavior WAS shown on DWTS aids and abets Hope’s version of the truth. Lots of people may learn serious lessons from this – DWTS producers, who I doubt intended this, and Maks himself.
Courtney: Admittedly, due to the last 48 hours being a bit hectic for me (my mother had surgery), I only was able to speed-read through a portion of what DWTSGossip posted – but I got the general gist of it, and that seems to be that Hope out for attention/sympathy/revenge/money/take your pick. Like Heidi, I am admittedly not a Maks fan – but I also don’t think he’s nearly as bad as Hope seems hellbent on painting him out to be. Yes, maybe Maks wasn’t at his best in season 13 – but I daresay Hope wasn’t exactly the model contestant, either, and I do find it interesting that they went from being this united, indignant front during the week they were eliminated (and all the way up through her Olympic victory last week), to her throwing him under the proverbial bus in this book…and then backing the bus up, running over him again, lather, rinse, repeat. The shove we saw during the team paso doble practice was hard to watch – but Maks did apologize, and I think in the end he even was shocked at his own behavior and felt really bad about it. As for this other alleged “slap” Hope talks about – methinks the lady doth hyperbolize too much. Dancing is a very physical, hands-on activity – I have had many a coach forcefully shove my shoulders down when they were creeping up too high, place my feet into the correct position, and yes, even adjust my head position. I can see how the very hands-on “head adjustment” could be very tempting to exaggerate into a “slap”, especially if the general theme of one’s book is overcoming adversity. You can’t overcome adversity if you don’t have an adversary – so apparently Hope felt the need to fabricate one. I read a few other excerpts from other chapters in the book and from what I can tell, Hope seems to vacillate between telling everyone how “tough” she is, to painting herself as a hopeless victim in a sea of villains. Sure, you can go on and on about how many challenges you’ve overcome in your life, and how everyone’s “out to get you” – but at what point do you entertain the notion that the recurring theme in each one of these interactions is YOU, Hope?
Vogue: What a bombshell…and wow, right before the season starts…seems so convenient, hmmm?! I’m not a big Hope Solo fan so it might be hard for me to see this clearly? She’s outed her former coach in her new book as “shoving her” too, etc. If you go to this link, you’ll see how she’s been known for this type of behavior in the past (which we learned in Season 13). She was also on Access Hollywood yesterday talking of “her way” and her “painful past” while promoting the book. Well, I’m sorry, we’ve all had painful things in our past happen, that doesn’t give a person permission or the right to sling dirt and out them the ways she has. Regardless of what Maks or the show did, Hope should have “risen above” and kept quiet. It’s always best to take the ‘high road’ and let people make up their own minds. But, with this new book, I’ve made up my mind even more now. She’s joined the ranks of Bristol Palin and Kate Gosselin regarding lowest of the lows. I also have a hard time believing Maks slapped her in such a way as she has described too. As Heidi said, Maks may have his issues at times, but, he’s not “that bad”. Plus, his friends standing up for him in Season 13 speak for themselves. For example, remember how Derek stood up for him during Season 13 with the “my show” comments, etc.? That alone tells me Maks is not that bad. Plus, if Maks was really “that bad” as she writes, why would the show keep him on the show as he would be a huge liability factor? Poor Maks and he was just rallying his twitter followers to support her at the Olympics. SAD!!! I hope she’s happy now? I would not one to live with that kind of karma.
Onward march Dancing With The Stars and Maksim Chmerkovskiy!!
Heidi: Of course, reading what Vogue wrote, and re-reading what I wrote, I feel compelled to say that we sort of sound like the people who typically excuse abusers. He’s “not that bad”….”she should have kept quiet”…and just being generally disbelieving of Hope. As a woman, it goes against everything in me to appear to be making excuses for a man who is on video behaving badly and I REALLY don’t like the phrase “she should have kept quiet”. But I can’t get past the fact that there was just so much of what she wrote that is just delusional bullshit. That makes it hard for me to believe anything she says. Not to mention that we aren’t talking a marriage – we’re talking dance partners. Some asshole treats you in a way you don’t like, you tell the boss. Or you quit and tell the world. At the time…not many months later when trying to sell a book. So, if that makes me a disgrace to womankind, I guess I will have to live with it. I’m not some simpering Maks fan looking for ways out – I don’t even LIKE Maks very much. But I do think he’s getting some unwarranted crap here, and I gotta call it like I see it. Hope seems to have more of a pattern here than Maks does, frankly.
Vogue: I didn’t mean that Hope should excuse an abuser. What I mean about keeping quiet, Miss Heidi, is that Hope shouldn’t have written a book to out Maks in. If she had issues and if it’s true, she should have addressed him on it or an authority figure. She shouldn’t have made it public in a book the way as she did.
Courtney: I realize we’re probably going to catch flak for giving the appearance of “defending the abuser” by some who can’t be bothered to actually READ what we’ve written, but in this case I find it very hard to side with Hope – just too much bullshit, “poor, innocent, perfect little me” bullshit being spun in this book. I fully acknowledge that Maks shoved Hope on camera during the team practice – but this nonsense she spews about some huge cover-up by TPTB over an alleged slap? And the claim that she was offered another partner, but declined? Just makes Hope look altogether foolish & vindictive to me.
UPDATE: The Huffington Post has a new article up today mentioning that Maks and the show are considering legal actions against Hope Solo for the claims in her book. More below and be sure you read the full story at the link. Note that a colleague says Hope is “standing behind what she wrote and has no intention of issueing an apology.” Thanks to @DWTSgossip for heads up on this news:
Maksim Chmerkovskiy says he is shocked and hurt by the accusations made against him by his former “Dancing With the Stars” partner Hope Solo. He said he has made it clear to friends that he was never physically abusive to the Olympic champion, despite Hope’s claims against him in her controversial memoir, “Solo: A Memoir of Hope.”
“Maks is one of the nicest guys in the world. This is 100 percent not true,” a source close to the show told me. “At the moment, Maks and ABC are not making any public statements, as they are considering legal options. Not only did Hope not tell the truth in the book, she also signed a contract with the producers of ‘DWTS’ and could be in breach of contract.”








I saw in a few articles on Yahoo! that she only didn’t want the new partner so she didn’t “end Maks’ career.” TF does that even mean in this case?! Clearly she might have ended his career just now with this book!
And I sort of enjoyed Hope in Season 13, I’ll be the first to admit. And I am a huge Maks fan, but after reading about this? I have to agree with you ladies above. Don’t wait to milk something when you’re trying to get money. Talk about it at the time.
And how sad. She was being friendly with him through Twitter when she knew what she had written about him. I’m finding her accusation very hard to believe. Official diagnosis: Hope Solo is cray cray.
This was a pairing where they clearly brought the worst in each other. Maybe because they were too similar? Always someone else’s fault. Conrad was right, better to have happy Maks so Maks and Kirstie should be fine. I hope all of this at least makes Maks reconsider his behavior particularly in how he speaks. I was just as alarmed by the way he spoke to Melissa as I was by that paso footage. Maks, you are too oltodos everything to be someone else’s fault. Same applies to Hope. If she is lying, my little respect for her is gone. Her life without the dwts details were enough to get people to read about her succeeding after a tough childhood.
I know DWTS loves the drama, but I can see why they wouldn’t want to air her getting slapped in the face. Like with Jaleel last season, did that just turn out to be a rumor or did they cut him yelling at Kym out?
I don’t really know where to begin with whether Maks slapped Hope or not, but I definitely think they brought out the worst in each other and she seems to have a huge misconception on how the show works. Apparently Maks does too if he gave her all this info, but he may just be lying to himself. I think they both do a bit that, which is why this will probably be a huge mess for them to sort out.
I will freely admit that I have been a Maks fan over the years, so naturally I don’t want to believe him capable of these kinds of extremes in his behavior. He does have temper issues, but I believe that he is basically a good person who has serious flaws. Unfortunately those flaws are magnified by TV, but that is the life he has chosen for himself. Even if I were not inclined to give him the benefit of a doubt, I would still find Hope’s behavior suspicious. Trouble just seems to follow her. Besides her reputation and past history, there is the timing of these revelations. I can’t help but wonder why she never mentioned all this before. Also, why was Maks still under the mistaken impression that they were friends? IF all of this is not true, I would like for TPTB to make a statement. Since rehearsals are taped, they would be in a position to know the truth. If it is true, I will be sad for Maks and for DWTS.
Bravo, Ladies! Heidi, you stated the case better than I could. I agree 100% with what you wrote.
I’m not sure if this new article was posted already. I don’t think it’s going to change anybody’s mind or maybe it will…
http://www.accesshollywood.com/hope-solo-standing-by-her-claims-against-dancings-maksim-chmerkovskiy_article_68653
I’m probably about the biggest Maks fan here, or at least one of them.
My own thoughts parallel pretty much everything that our esteemed trio of ladies has offered. I’m disappointed that I stood up for Hope in so many ways. I still believe the judges were personally harsh at times, but… damn. I’m still shaking my head.
the reality as it has been presented to us let us think that some kind of foul play did happened…it is the problem of the producers and their choice to show what they think will make ratings…well…that just turned against them. i will not except a physical abuse in any way, shape or form…Maks was always portrayed as the bad boy of the ballroom..well..he has to stand and take the heat for that title and for playing into the producers game…because true or not …we will never know..what we do know is what they showed..and of course the opinion is based on those images with Maks being too rough with Hope during Team dance..and not only..and as Heidi perfectly said… “The problem for Maks, unfortunately, is that just enough of it is true to make the rest of it seem plausible.” you hit the nail on the head!! the doubt…is enough at this point…BUT..if i were her..and he would try to do this to me…i would have either left…there is no media that could make me stay and take that..and in no world that would be considered “normal” or i would have put him in his place…it is not like women can’t fight back…especially when you are “protected” by the presence of a camera … so..why did she take it..? why didn’t she call her agent and said..enough..i am out of this…no one would have blamed her…as always…the truth is somewhere in between the lines…but i hope Maks learns his lesson…actually..considering last season…i think he already did…
Hope was being sarcastic when she invited Maks to London.
https://twitter.com/hopesolo/status/236432888810328065
But there’s a bit of a discontinuity. Some sources say that she was slapped in the face, while others don’t even mention the slap to the face, but a slap to the stomach instead.
The video that the show aired from the team dance gives some credence to Hope’s claim. Maks did seem abusive towards her – it was cringe-worthy. It’s never easy for a woman to come forward about abuse, so I don’t think the idea that she waited a while is enough to discount her statements. Why would she make up that stuff about “the memo”? There was obvious tension between them the last half of the season. I’m not sure what to think, but I believe that some of you have dismissed her too quickly.
I think Hope just likes to talk to cause problems like in the semi final soccer game in the Olympics she claimed she made Canada look good and with a match so tight its hard to believe same with this alleged abuse Maks caused her. Maks have been on the show for 12 seasons now and if he abused 1 partner it means he abused others which is truely hard to believe that tptb and Conrad Green would keep inviting him back as a pro with those actions they couldve just let him go if all this is true after season 14 but he is still back and it seems Hope just wants attention whether its positive or negative attention.
I am not saying that Maks did slap Hope, but I think something did happen, maybe not quite to the extent that Hope has portrayed. The shove definitely happened, and that in itself is horrible, the cursing, omg the cursing is offensive as well. We never really did hear what went down with Jaleel and Kym either.
My thoughts are that Maks was elated to have an Olypmian swimmer for a partner, especially once Misty had to pull out, his expectations were sky high, only to be hugely disappointed. And that brought out the disappointing, resentful side of Maks, he expected and wanted so much more and it wasn’t to be. Thus the hostility toward Hope begain to develop.
*Not Olympian swimmer meant to say Soccer* oops!
OK I know Kate G and Bristol are easy targets, but neither of them did anything comparable to Hope after DWTS and neither blamed the show/judges/conspiracy theories for their failures on it. Hope said on air the show was trying to get her off Day 1. A bold right lie.
no offense to anyone but it sounds like you haven’t read Hope’s book (the DWTS bit) in its entirety – she says that he slapped her in the stomach that left a handprint and then on a late friday night he slapped her hard in the face while trying to correct her head position – it was so hard her ear was ringing and she walked out, took her mic off and had it out. her people were brought in, Maks was shown the video of him slapping her and he was remorseful. TPTB told her they don’t stand for violence and offered her a new partner. she said her and Maks had made it this far and didn’t want to be made out the bad guy or prima dona so she declined. Legal documentation was drawn up where they stated what took place so “they were covering their collective butts” Her pr manager Whitney asked for the tape but apparently it couldn’t be found. If she has this document – which her team likely does- it is pretty clear cut
Totally agree with you three and pretty much everyone in the comments. I really can’t totally believe EVERYTHING Hope said. At first I was skeptical, but now I really think that what she said was just one big hyperbole with some truth thrown in there. I’m still disappointed in Maks at his rough behavior, but I don’t think he’s near as bad as Hope portrayed him. I have said many times that Maks annoys me, but really truly I do like the guy. Yes, he has some serious issues, but being a terrible person is not one of them IMO. It’s a shame because I REALLY wanted to love Hope and I tried to like her and somewhat did, but now I can’t say I do at all.
Fantastic post ladies. Well thought out, to the point, and nicely written.
Since I have absolutely no intention of buying her book, whatever she wrote is lost to me. While I wouldn’t say I hated her on the show, my dislike increased with each passing week. Does this excuse Maks’ behavior? Not at all! However, I must say I agree Melissa(comment #2) that they brought out the worst in each other.
No offense to you, tara, but you sound pretty gullible if you believe every single word of Hope’s book – for the record, I did go back & read the entire DWTS chapter, and it made me believe Hope even LESS, because of some of the absolutely ridiculous sh*t she was saying.
And it would be pretty clear-cut if they have a tape – except that no one is producing a tape, nor a copy of the mysterious memo Hope talks about. You may believe one exists, just by what Hope says – but I’m not that impressionable, and I don’t trust Hope.
Then what is your opinion on the legal document? and why isn’t Maks making a statement? looking more guilty to me…..
Between this and Hope’s entitled atitude, I think she really lost a lot of fans she gained from dwts.
Thank you doyens of Pure DWTS, for having the courage to address this extremely distasteful issue and handle it with the class, seriousness, and objectivity it deserves. I agree with all you’ve said so won’t repeat it.
Also, beautifully-stated cheryl c. (#4). Maks is flawed (as are we all) and has some anger-management issues, but I truly believe that inherently he’s a good person. I wish I could say the same for Hope Solo. She has issues too, and they’re much more serious and destructive (both to herself and others).
I have a sad feeling there could be a slander and defamation of character lawsuit in Mak’s future. He’s a high-profile owner of a series of successful dance studios. This accusation of physical abuse can’t be allowed to go uncontested. It becomes a “business issue” as well as one of personal honor.
I’m sure the DWTS pros will rally to support Maks, either publicly or privately. I’ll be disappointed in any of them who jump on Hope’s bus. I’m really glad he’s dancing with Kirstie this All-Star Season. She’s a staunch supporter of his and a good friend. He’ll need someone like that to weather this storm. I hope some of his former partners also step up to support him.
Don’t mean to be superficial, but I suppose the silver lining in this horrible cloud of controversy could be that Maks and Kirstie’s ardent fans will be voting like maniacs. So I think Kirstie might not be the early elimination some were predicting/hoping for.
Me thinks Hope is wanting attention, she could have said something during her season or directly after her season, not a few seasons later when she is trying to sell a book. As for Maksim remaining quiet, I quote my Great Granny, “Sometimes the best thing you can do when someone accuses you of something is to just walk away, ignore them, and be the bigger person. No reason to stoop to their level and fight/argue with them about it, thus making a “he said she said” arguement, after all that gives them the attention they want by making up accusations and spreading lies/rumours/gossip.”
Remember there are three sides to every single story, “PERSON A, PERSON B, and the TRUTH”. we have person A(that would be Hope), but we lack person B’s version, and any evidence to support either claim, therefore we do not have the truth.
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry right now. Take the high road regardless of what happened? I can’t be the only person here to have just been floored.
Would the high road been to have him fired then and there?
The thing is, Maks has always had scuffles with his partners, but he met his match in Hope. She didn’t shut up like the others, and I can totally see how things could easily have escalated beyond belief. I’m in Elara’s camp in that since I do know what I saw, it’s not that big of a stretch for me to imagine him slapping her face in position if she was telling him to eff off or something.
Not premeditated, but reflexive, but same end result.
And like I said earlier, if ABC is being slandered, why are they staying quiet? Not a peep.
Feel free to provide a copy of this “legal document”, Tara – I’m not sure one actually exists, given all we have to go on is Hope’s word. And Maks did make statements – we included links above. Perhaps you should read more thoroughly next time.
Well clearly his reputation is at stake, Hope said that her publishers attorneys’ have fact-checked etc and she has a top sports management agency with lawyers etc behind her – can you say the same for him with lizzie grubman? She can’t even spell his last name correctly and is frankly a joke. Of course he chooses to have her represent him….If you mean his rant on twitter – that is laughable, how is that a statement? he doesn’t even have the guts to tag her LOL
The “high road” Katarina is to have dealt with her issues PRIVATELY, not to write it all in book for the whole world to see. But then….she couldn’t have made money off of her claims then, hmm? Makes one look dishonest in my opinion.
I find it difficult to believe that executives, producers, and whoever the top dog at ABC/BBC is would allow any person regardless of gender, to continue to be employed by them if they were caught on camera assaulting someone. It’s really hard to believe some sort of immediate disciplinary action was not taken on the spot when something serious like a slap in the face occurs.
Hope Solo’s accusation and the timing come at a very opportunistic time IMO.
I’m sure as a businessman, Maks has a lawyer or two on retainer to handle the serious legal issues, and they’re not going to say anything until they know what they’re dealing with. However, it might not be a bad idea if they put a muzzle on Lizzie and cautioned Maks about making statements on Twitter and the entertainment outlets.
this topic is like walking on spikes, but I have to say the thing that impressed me the most is that she thinks that the her argentine tango was good. =p
Not so, Tara – the shove that was shown on camera could be enough to constitute that memo. I think they only way to know for sure is to see all the footage.
I have read all the DWTS related pages and I have to say, there are so many contradictions in her written words and things that she has said that it would take hours to parse it all. She claimed they were trying to get her and Maks off since day 1….but then claimed that there was a memo that said who was to be eliminated each week. It can’t be both. I mean, the list goes on and on.
I will add, for Tara’s benefit, that a woman saying something is true doesn’t mean it IS just because she’s a woman. I will also say that not making a statement is also not an indication of guilt. It just isn’t. Maks apparently made it clear to TMZ and Hollywood Gossip that what Hope wrote is bullshit – but even if he had said nothing I would not be led to believe he was guilty of something. Often when shit starts flying, celebs are told to ignore. Derek got shit on relentlessly by the British press when he was dating Cheryl Cole and they said some not nice things about him. But he never said a word. That certainly didn’t make me believe what they were saying. Why? Because I have a fucking BRAIN. I know how the media are. I watch everything that goes on, listen to what is said, observe…and then I make up my own mind. Critical thinking. You don’t just blindly believe what you are told.
LOL Carlos!!!!
I agree with the commentary from the moderators and several comments above. I read the pages pertaining to Maks and the show online today. My first thought was that it is a possibility that he may have hit her on the face or been too rough in head placement. The rehearsal packages they showed illustrated that. That “truth” we all saw makes her statements have some value.
After thinking about it a little more however I think that if it did happen to the extent she describes wouldn’t it have leaked earlier than this? With Jaleel it was leaked during the week of the incident or the next week. Why didn’t this comeout before now?
I do think the producers have a higher level of control over Maks after season 13. He hasn’t done standard after elimination press since Hope. Even Melissa’s season had a biter feel to it and they were told not to do press as well. Just find that interesting.
Love this site thank you for doing such a great reporting job.
#13 Sandy, if you remember, Maks wasn’t just elated to have an Olympian. He basically hand picked his partner that season.
#24 Katarina, sorry but I don’t agree Maks met his match in Hope. Mel B, Erin nor Kirstie “shut up like the others” and we didn’t see behavior even remotely like this with any of them.
In my opinion, with Maks, it all comes down to how much he enjoys his partnerships. When he’s happy, he’s very happy. When he’s not, he doesn’t deal with his frustration very well.
I see that if you don’t like the message, then kill the messager tactics are going on here, and other medias. Many women in armed forces incur hostile and sexual harassment from theirs peers, supervisors, and officers corp. Leading to a hostile work environment to say the least.
I have witness some footage of other pro dancers trying to calm Maks temper at times during group dances and still others are stunned to see what just happened in these footage. And I recall a sudden outburst between Maks and Len. So, I believe in Hope Solo.
I think it’s time for Maksim Chermkovshiy to go back New York to attend to his dance studio. Maksim was trained in Russia. And I learned their schooling methods are cruel and unusual to say the least. Dancers are whipped or caned in some cases. Maks has some temper and anger management issues that a medical professional counselor can help with.
Finally, the longer this is sweep under the rug and not delt with, then the next time could be worst. I don’t know neither one of these individuals personally, but I am sure they are good people. But when stress, frustration and impatience a rise, then heated emotions and regretful actions takes place. Place Maks on hiatis for a season or two is what I recommend.
I wish them both well. And I hope to read more of Hope Solo’s great achievement and not this tearing down a American Olympian. Shameful for those who have done so already.
Donna (#34) – You said “In my opinion, with Maks, it all comes down to how much he enjoys his partnerships. When he’s happy, he’s very happy. When he’s not, he doesn’t deal with his frustration very well.” I agree with you on that. But just considering the footage we did see – the group paso footage – taking your frustration out on your pupil like that is unacceptable to me. I think that if that’s the way he behaves when frustrated, then frankly, he shouldn’t be an instructor. JMO.
That you would even compare a sparkly dance show that one can walk away from at any time, to serving in the armed forces is just beyond ridiculous. You got the hyperbole right to be a Hope fan.
None of us are excusing Maks. As I was just telling friends on twitter, I think he’s an asshole with issues. Lots of issues. I just happen to think that Hope’s taking advantage of his rep and video that’s available to make herself a victim and to sell some books. As for tearing Hope down? I think she does that for herself – I have read other things that she’s said and done and she’s always in trouble with someone.
Patty, I totally agree. There is no way ABC is going to assume liability for a pro that assaults their contestant! Maks would have been gone so fast, his head would have been spinning. Especially, if as she says, there was a tape of it. How convenient that it happened to disappear.
I am a Maks fan, but I also recognize that the man has gone too far at times. However, I totally do not believe that he hauled off and slapped her across the face. Hope is pathetic and attempting to boost book sales at someone else’s expense, imo.
What is hard in this situation is what constitutes a slap and what is tough coaching. He may have slapped her stomach and shoved her head but slapping across the face is very different. A slap across the face is so demeaning and abusive, it seems to me she would have taken some action. That is a judgement call on my part and perhaps she didn’t really process it until writing the book. Either way, it seems like sour grapes and an overly inflated recap of the truth.
As for Maks, he has been very vocal on the demanding schedule and expectations of the show in recent seasons. He has not responded well to the stress.
Hope likes to be a bomb-thrower. Someone who stirs controversy so people talk about her. Always hyping that she’s the “bad,tough” girl. She thinks it’s fun to “needle” people and watch how they react so she gets one of 2 things she wants..either someone who just shuts up and lets her walk all over them while feeling very superior (or) who fights with her so she can play the victim and blame someone else for her bad behavior. She is a pathetic example for women and Olympians…IMO
I’m not making excuses for Maks, we saw the video and he got rough but I do NOT believe he slapped her. And really I have no idea why she felt she had to”embellish on ” what everyone already saw on prime-time TV, it was already shocking enought I guess she just didn’t get enough attention and of course there’s the “book-selling aspect” . If you are being truly verbally or physically abused and especially if you are NOT causing conflict by PUSHING someone’s buttonsyou do something about it THEN. not months later. But she clearly was, from the moment she met Maks, plus making comments about the show and others on it. She loves the attention and playing the tough girl. And this is the kind of woman that you tell your male friends to “just walk away”. Don’t take the bait, just walk away. Contracts or not, Maks should have reacted differently, too. He should have just chilled, let her fall flat on her face with her know-it-all attitude, and get voted off early. But I think he really loves the show and takes pride in his work and was tryin to deal, even if he went about it the wrong way.
#36 Sally I agree with you. I’ve thought for a long time Maks and the show need a break from each other.
Gee, all this controversy is selling books for Hope. I bet she laughs all the way to the bank.
Maks isn’t perfect, but why would the show even put up with an out and out assault? If I recall, Maks and Hope got together for dinner once after DWTS ended. Obviously she got “over” being hit by him.
For the first time since the all-star celebs announcement, I’m actually happy the season doesn’t start until late September! I hope by then all the “she said/he said” will have been turned over to the lawyers in back rooms somewhere, and the media and public will have moved on.
Hope Solo is a fame hungry twit! I could not stand her on dwts, she was a whiny insuffable know it all, when she knew nothing! I will never believe that any of those things happened. I think Maks definitely has a temper, but I cannot see him hitting her.
I’ve always been fairly neutral on Maks. And as much as Hope seemed to be a polarizing figure on DWTS, I’m an exception to that and have always felt neutral toward her as well.
Yes Maks is a complicated person with flaws, and I think the same can be said for Hope. I don’t think either one is evil or even right/wrong, and even now I’m not convinced that either of them ever intended harm toward one another.
Obviously Maks, at least when frustrated, tends to be a pretty physical taskmaster. We all saw the memorable clip proving that. I can easily see a scenario where at another time, he might have been quite physically assertive in correcting Hope’s body or head position. And even if he didn’t slap her, if he handled her roughly enough it may have felt like one to her, especially when stressed and physically exhausted as they all get during long rehearsals.
So I’m inclined to think it might be a situation where each of them interpreted the same event in a different way. I’m not sure that either one is really lying here, but perhaps it is just two people remembering one event differently.
I certainly don’t condone abuse, and I support any woman’s right to speak out. I guess what makes me so skeptical is the timing of waiting to speak out until you can profit from it. Personally, I could never allow myself to profit from another person’s pain like she is with Maks and the soccer coach that she mentions in her book. In cases like this, even if allegations are proven to be false, the person’s reputation is tainted. Does she hate them so much that she is willing to damage their lives? I also agree with some of you that the show would have kicked him off the next season if he had really acted as badly as she claims. Anyway, I hope that whatever the truth is, that justice will prevail, reputations will heal, and we can all just enjoy the upcoming season.
I am not a Maks fan, though I did like him with Kirstie, or a Hope fan, but where there’s smoke there’s fire. Why is it so hard to believe that the tape of the face slap would disappear? TPTB don’t want that tape floating around. They have a hit show and a fan favorite pro to protect. Interesting that Maks’ supporters, Kirstie, Mel B., and Erin were all good dancers who probably weren’t badly treated by him..they got him to the finals. Who knows, maybe he thought he could treat Hope harshly because she was an athlete. I’m sure she pushed his buttons too so the whole pairing was a bad idea from the get-go.
Guess I’ll throw my thoughts in here too. Do I believe Hope completely? Yes and no. I believe it could be an exaggeration and like others have said, bc we see Maks’ attitude onscreen it makes it a possibility of being true. The things I have issues with are this. She was seen having dinner with him after the show ended. She didn’t want to ruin his career? Well what do u think happens now? From what I read, she goes back and forth saying how obnoxious he is, but then she complains that the producers chose to show when they were bickering as opposed to having fun with one another. Now I don’t know about anyone else, but if someone treats me like that, I don’t give a crap about their career, bc if he treated me that way, he could do it to someone else, and that’s not right. Besides since it is his career, he needs to be pointed in the right direction. I’m also not going to have dinner with him or anything else. And she says she was being sarcastic when inviting him to the olympics in that tweet? Well I replied to her and told her if someone treated me that way, I wouldn’t even tweet them sarcastically, and she needs to work on her sarcasm, cause it didn’t read that way to me. Next time add a “yeah right” or a “roll eyes” at the end if u want to drive home the sarcasm in a tweet. My biggest issue is that she didn’t come out with this when it happened or right after the show, instead she puts it in her book. None of his other partners have said anything of the same behavior. Now I do remember when he was with brandy I think he smacked her on the a$$ and I think Carrie Ann or Len admonished him about his training technique, if anyone can remember that clip please tell me. Now maks is by no means perfect, but by her not coming out with this at the time thereby keeping future partners from the same treatment and then instead putting it in her book to make money, it makes me skeptical.
@jl2285
Just because Maks is popular doesn’t mean the producers are going to throw away evidence. He isn’t worth it to them. They can easily replace Maks with another dancer.
So much has been said already that I’m not sure what I can add. I’ll just say that I do not believe Hope. I’m not a Maks fan, I very much dislike his arrogant and egotistical nature. But I don’t for one minute belive him to be the monster she is portraying him as. Sorry, but there are way too many variables pointing to Hope being, frankly, a pathological liar and opportunist.
Here’s hoping Kirstie can bring “good” Maks back this season. Maybe there is a silver lining to some pros getting their old partners after all.
Because I saw his abusive treatment towards Hope on camera, It isn’t a stretch for me to believe her written accusations. However, I think her timing is suspect; why didn’t she publicize her concerns at the time, or right after her time on the show was over? This late “whistle-blowing” seems to me like a ploy to make money on her book.
You know, had Hope had nothing more to do with Maks once the benighted season was over with, I might give her story more credence. But no… she had supper dates with Maks, called him a friend, wished him a very public happy birthday TWO MONTHS after the show and then said she had tickets at the Olympics for him, which she said later was sarcastic. Why does anyone with a normal agenda do that?
There’s all this talk about Maks’ abusive behavior, but I don’t see much about Hope’s abusive behavior. Yeah, this happens folks, women can be abusers too. She made fun of, derided, belittled, insulted, Maks and his chosen career at every chance she got. I’m sure everyone found it very funny for instance when she said he was more feminine than any of her soccer mates. I suspect that this type of provocation went on from day one until day the end, judging by her attitude on the show itself. Just because she’s a woman doesn’t grant her a pass.
Look, obviously something happened. I think Hope is exaggerating because she needs a reason to have not come in number 1 in DWTS. Another bit of adversity for her to overcome. Another, look at me and how I can triumph over everything.
Yeah, I think Maks was probably rough with her, but not to this extent. He showed poor judgement with her, most definitely.
I suspect that we won’t hear anything from ABC until after the weekend and I just wonder who’s going to get thrown under the bus.
Thinking their “friendship” afterwards was a phony one….kinda like Kendra & Louis and Karina & Mike.
It would be a huge professional blunder if the info wasn’t vetted by the publisher’s attorney and her attorney.
I agree that it is odd that we didn’t see one speck of footage of Jaleel’s “behavior”. Was it because he was a favorite early on? Hmm.
IMO, it could be true. Hope is not backing down from what she wrote in her book. If Maksim say’s it’s untrue, then he should sue for slander, after all this could be messing with his lively-hood.
Hope want’s to always be in the spotlight!
Even if she needs to make someone else look bad
in order to make her self look good. I never want
to meet here. people like this need intensive
therapy. For her sake I hope she gets it before she
ruins people’s reputations.
PS The one saving grace out of all this is that hopefully Maks has learned to take himself out of situations where he’s angry and acting abusive. I like to believe he’s learned that, and it’s not just some PR schtick from Lizzie Grubman. Even Hope said in the chapter that he was “apologetic.” But would Maks have realized how abusive he was being, and more importantly, CHANGED his behavior, if that horrible clip hadn’t been shown on national tv and appalled everyone in the room, at home and I think maybe even appalled himself? Who knows. We don’t have to hate the guy to say “this behavior is not okay — do better.” I never think it’s okay to shove this sort of thing under the rug.
I knew I had read a similar story to what Hope says in her book and it’s here…
http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/hope-solo-i-almost-quit-dancing-with-the-stars-2011811
There’s no mention of a slap, just what had happened in the group rehearsal we’ve all seen. I don’t understand why she would keep that quiet if it truly happened? It doesn’t make any sense to me and I’m not a big fan of either. Just trying to wrap my head around it all.
I’m no Hope fan. However, there are some inaccuracies here. First off, sheery (#54) is correct, Hope’s publisher would have vetted the supposed “document” before publishing. They do not want to be sued for libel and rest assured, if Hope made up this document, they would ask to see it. Also, ABC has not disavowed any of this. Maks and his very VERY savvy publicist have.
Second, it is incorrect to say there are strict “rules” about reality tv. There are very strict rules governing game shows — but REALITY tv is not considered a game show and as such is not governed by those rules. DWTS creates a storyline for each couple. It’s pretty obvious. They are not in the business of being “fair” — they are in the business of making money. (For example, is it “fair” that Melissa Rycroft is on this season when her manager, Deena Katz has been the senior exec producer for talent (casting) since the show began? Katz earns at a cut of Melissa’s DWTS earnings, and if M stays in past show five, Katz gets a huge bonus. That’s a HUGE conflict of interest but it’s legal.)
Third, I read the entire chapter on tumblr before it was taken down. Hope’s accusations are not that outlandish nor did I notice glaring contradictions (the only one I think is out there is the memo thing — but it has long been conjectured that some contestants are told when they’re voted off that week after the vote). Given what I saw on the rehearsal tape (including Derek’s stunned reaction after Maks shoved her) I think it is VERY possible and even likely that Maks shoved her in the stomach the same way — hard enough to leave a handprint. What Hope characterizes as a “slap” to the face I tend to think was a very rough shove of her head to put it in proper position. But even if she is exaggerating and mischaracterizing a slap instead of a rough shove — that is NOT okay. And it’s crazy that we’re making her the villain primarily because she’s got an unlikable personality.
Because here’s the deal, I think Maks is sex on a stick and I’d LOVE to make excuses for him. I dislike Hope and think she has some very unattractive personality problems (including a victim mentality). But what I saw with my own eyes was not “editing,” and we all make excuses for the guy because when he’s “on” he’s charming, funny and we all LOVE him. But he was completely out of control during Hope’s season — whether because they brought out the worst in each other or he was having personal problems or WHATEVER. It’s not okay. And being fans of Maks and/or the show doesn’t mean we shouldn’t hold him accountable when he is out of control.
A final word about #35′s comment. It’s not hyperbole to bring women in the armed forces. There is a HUGE scandal out of Lackland AFB right now where a corrupt culture of command had led to abuse, rape and other serious charges. It’s amazing this isn’t all over the front pages because this is BIG. And where this ties into Hope’s cray-cray is that when you live in that sort of “tough it out” culture, it’s very difficult to speak out. It’s very difficult to see a complaint through (hence the “didn’t want to ruin his career”). There’s a lot of second-guessing of yourself. A lot of trying to be friends to make it okay, then anger because they take advantage of that. I don’t like Hope, but I know that culture and find her actions pretty easily explained by it.
Hope’s making money off the book. That’s what people do. I don’t admire it but then, I don’t admire her much either. However, I will NOT give Maks a free pass in this just because I dislike Hope. He’s happier now? Great. I hope Kirstie brings out the best in him (I loved them during their past season). But ultimately he shoved a woman hard enough that every pro in that room was appalled. And that’s not okay to villify her because we all think he’s so dreamy. Sorry, don’t mean to offend. Just my (obviously minority) opinion. I’m new to your site and very much enjoy it but had to speak out on this one — no offense.
Thank you Kallie and Sheery. ITA with your comments.
P.S. I have no respect for Maks’ publicist Lizzie Grubman. Some years ago she backed her car into a crowd of people standing outside a nightclub and fled the scene. Not exactly a person of stellar behavior or character.
I like Maks but hated his partnership with Hope Solo. She’s had frosty relationships with her ex coach and recent had a twitter exchange with Brandi Chastain for giving her constructive criticism. She craving all the attention to get people to buy her book. Maks on the other hand should leave the show. I think he’s successful enough to leave behind the drama that comes from being on reality TV.
I have worked with victims of domestic violence through much of my career and this just doesn’t pass the smell test. First, while she expressed frustration during the season, it seemed to have more to do with her frustration at not being the best, being picked on by the judges and Max actually holding her toes to the fire. It also bears repeating that she has had relationship troubles in several venues including with her team mates and others. In the book, she always comes out “smelling like a rose” while everyone else is the bad guy. Max appears to be an”alpha” male and pretty demanding and arrogant, however I think if he was the “pill” that Hope suggests, Kirstie Alley would have eaten him up and spit him out. She would not have tolerated that behavior. In addition, I really believe you would see numerous people stepping up to the plate by now and throwing him under the bus to be run over again…if the allegations were true. Consider when John Travolta was supposedly “outed” for being gay and the number of people who claimed it had happened to them as well…or Sandusky and the number of young people who came forward. As soon as one person acknowledges abuse such as this…it typically grows by leaps and bounds in very short order. Truth be said I am pretty much a Derek fan…but I don’t think Maks is malicious.
Maks is an ass. That being said, I was harassed at my job and told my boss and asked to be transferred. I was lucky, many women don’t have the chance to to that and fee they have to stay in an untenable situation because they need the income. However, Hope Solo was on a reality DANCE SHOW competition. If she was as abused as she claims, why didn’t she walk out the damn door! She talks about being tough and aggressive and she IS strong and able to defend herself. I understand the shock of being shoved in rehearsal but come on, she’s strong and able to defend herself. Her claim that she didn’t want to make trouble is a direct contradiction of her past behavior. She fights with, well, everyone. Her coaches, team members, etc. Am I supposed to believe on DWTS, she chose to be demure and frightened, Since when? She mouths off about anyone and everyone! Also, why didn’t she complain then? Please understand that is why we doubt the veracity of her complaints of abuse. She did nothing, never complained, never walked out, never defended herself. She is a walking contradiction. This is not a person of character. She has had public fights with her coaches, teammates, etc. She is desperate for attention and a money grubber as well. Hope clearly needs help and I hope she gets it. Maks does too, I understand that. However, she does a disservice to every women who tolerates abuse/harassment because they feel they have no choice, as in having a job they don’t want to lose or being in the armed services. These are very different situations. As Heidi said, to compare them to being on a reality dance competition is just, well, odd. I believe Hope exaggerated because, if he was really as bad as she said, she would have walked out. To be credible, it has to make sense, and she just doesn’t.
I feel very duped and confused by these accusations. I have been a loyal Maks fan but after reading a short except, it doesn’t seem completely our of the question. It could very well be one of those situations where she interprets it one way …a head correction which inadvertently became a slap ; and he thought he was just using some a “strong ” teaching technique. I wish I could say with absolute conviction that what she says is complete bs but there is a slight truthful sounding resonance to it. I hope I am wrong. My sense is that the truth lies somewhere in the middle of both their statements. This makes me incredibly sad. I find that I can’t even rejoice in the Olympic victory because she has tainted it for me. What a mess.
She’s obviously creating controversy for more press, interviews and to sell her book, and obviously crazy with no self respect or respect or consideration for others. Maks would have been fired if these accusations were true. It’s sad that someone is so sick and twisted that they’d stoop to this level for attention at the expense of others, and the timing of her exaggerated rants tell me all I need to know. I hope she seeks the help she obviously needs. I’m sure former partners and fellow pros will come out in droves supporting Maks, further disproving her accusations.
Thank you PDWTS staff for handling this issue in a classy manner! The positives, which I always seek out, are that we have a great cast of people that enjoy one another and get along, and it’ll be a fun and exciting season. On with the show!
That’s exactly what bothers me too. I remember seeing paparazzi pics of them out and about in NY after the show was all over…all smiles…enjoying each other and their friendship. If they hadn’t of been seen together like that and she would have done something about this alleged abuse during the show time, her stories would be more believable.
And like a lot of you, I know Maks isn’t perfect and he has some anger and teaching issues from how he was taught to dance, but, even still, I can’t imagine he’d have the respect and friends he does with all of his other former partners, PETA, the other pros and the producers themselves would keep hiring him back if he were that abusive.
So many great thoughts on this from everyone!!
Just out of curiosity, where are all these photos and tweets about these supposed dinners and times out in NY? I saw one picture of them walking into a restaurant a week or two after her season ended which, quite honestly, looked like a staged publicity shot to me. I’ve not seen any other pictures, tweets or anything to indicate there were multiple dinners and get togethers, other than some of Maks’s fans claiming it on Twitter.
@jl2285, Maks is still good friends with Debi Mazar and Denise Richards, neither of whom were good dancers.
There’s no gray area when it comes to abuse. The video of him shoving and flinging Hope around has been televised for the world to see. Whether you don’t like Hope as a person or think her memoir is an opportunistic piece of crap doesn’t manner. Maks’ rough behavior with her has been visually documented. And it will never be okay.
It’s disturbing to me that this debate has even been spawned.
People, men or women, should not be treated so roughly and with such disrespect. There is NO gray area.
Voguerista, after their season I saw one or two pictures of Maks and Hope walking into a restaurant, smiling for the paps as they went in. Where did u see all these pictures of the two enjoying themselves? You guys cover everything here so they must be in your archives? Would love to see them.
I have a big problem when We’re talking about degrees of abusiveness. I’m seeing a recurring theme — he’s rough on women, but not THAT rough. Did anyone rewatch the shove and push on AH? Not cringeworthy? She asked him to stop it and he replied, “no.” Bastard.
I understand Hope has issues too, and she should have dealt with him roughing her up very differently, then and there, instead of in a tell-all book, but geez.
i’m still asking where is ABC, and why aren’t they defending their honor and that of their esteemed employee?
mmc, how do you know this? Both ladies have not come out in his defense as far as I’ve seen and neither were on the show long enough to experience a true partnership with him. But he did manage to make Denise cry very early on in rehearsals.
Wow, M, I almost got hit in the head with all of that over-the-top self-righteousness that you just threw at us. It’s disturbing to ME that YOU would take one woman’s dubious words (and I do mean dubious, given some of the other outrageous claims she’s made in her book) as law. Pardon the rest of us for not being quite so gullible. If this debate disturbs you so deeply, feel free to leave – we’re not holding you here against your will.
And kallie, the long ass comments you wrote overnight are so rife with factual errors that I don’t even know where to begin. Reality shows aren’t governed by laws? BULLSHIT. Go Google the Communications Act of 1934 and/or the FCC before you make a fool of yourself spouting nonsense like that around here. I can’t even be bothered to go back and read through your novel-length speech again to comment any further.
The problem with Maks suing, as I see it, is like I said in the original post. There is just enough evidence of Maks being an ass to make all the rest of her claims sound plausible. I’m not a lawyer by any stretch, but I don’t see how he can possibly win in a lawsuit. And I would imagine that Hope and her attorneys KNOW that.
As for the commenters who insist there is no gray area on abuse, etc. I’m agree wholeheartedly – in a situation where there is a marriage/children/or a person who is not in a position of authority. But Hope IS in a position of authority over Maks on DWTS – she is the celebrity, she holds all the cards, she had an entourage, lawyer, and ABC Brass (supposedly) on her side. Even then, Maks would be seriously in the wrong if everything she said was true. And he was seriously in the wrong for how he behaved in that group practice. But it gets tricky in a situation like this where it’s he said/she said and Hope had all the advantages on her side but didn’t say a word until she could make a buck off it. It seriously undermines her credibility. I have to ask – do we believe every word she says just because she’s a woman?? Does anyone not see how dangerous that is? In a situation like this, don’t we have a responsibility to question it?? Equal rights means EQUAL – what would we be saying if the situation were reversed?? I don’t think I can get behind automatically believing her and disbelieving him just because of their genders. Yes, Maks behaved badly….but so did Hope.
What makes this even worse, to me (and probably to Maks fans), is that she acted like his friend long after the show was over. HE clearly thought they were friends. THAT makes this situation even shittier. She could have at least warned him…or was her side of the friendship a lie this whole time?? And if she was lying about that…
Heidi, ITA with your last paragrah. Hope is paying the price for her hypocrisy.
I grew up in a househould in which my father taught us early that you never lay a hand n another person, so maybe I’m more sensitive to Maks’ hands-on approach with women than many others. I’m having trouble grasping “the degree” issue, but I’ll wait and see and hope ABC does the right thing.
Havent read her book and have ZERO interest in it. I’m a huge Football fan but her attitude is BAD. We all will never know what really happened and that is fact. If that is all that happened during training that is nothing. I’ve had coaches in Vball, Bball & Track be tougher than that. Did we all made a big deal out of it? No, we sucked it up and performed our role 100% times better. If she didnt like it leave. That is always the choice. Personally I would rather train under Maks than a cream puff coach. That being said…Hope’s attitude sucks in every interview I’ve ever heard. AND YES FOLKS…HOPE & HER PR PEOPLE ARE LOVING ALL THE INTERVIEWS, COMMENTS AND SPECULATION GOING ON BECAUSE OF THIS. So this will be my only comment on it. Cant wait for new season to start and that is what I will be watching.
Kallie, I’m not going to address most of your comments mainly because we won’t ever agree and I’ve said my piece. But I will say that you very blithely confuse “fair” and the creation of “storylines” (things we all knew years ago) with the actual voting and elimination. That’s a convenient mixing of the issues. While the production has never been fair and obviously they create storylines, they can’t determine before the season starts who’s going to be eliminated which week any more than American Idol can. Not when there is a voting public involved. There are standards, like it or not, and dozens of articles have been written about the fact that rigging votes is a sure fire way to get your show off the air.
And I still think that equating service women in the armed forces who have NO CHOICE, in most instances, to Hope who could have walked away (and was offered the opportunity for a new partner) at any time is hyperbolic. I think you do the service women a huge disservice by comparing the situations.
Heidi, I just would like to say publicly that I applaud you so wholeheartedly on your stance for Equal Rights. Not many women are comfortable with that opinion, sadly. We may have our differences, but I respect you for this. As I totally respect the way you, Court and Vogue are dealing with this thread/situation.
Kudos.
Thanks, Evaine. There are too many women out there who want to be equal only when it is convenient.
I must say, I agree with Evaine on #78. Heidi, I know we’ve butted heads a time or two, but I am with you 100% on that comment. High five.
I did not like Hope at all when she was on the show. Yes, they both brought out the worst in each other, but it was very apparent from the start that she had an attitude towards everyone. We all know Maks can be difficult and it’s worse when he’s frustrated. I think all of the pros get frustrated to a point each season, they just handle it differently and we don’t see it like we do Maks. A lot of times, Maks tapes are harsher than other pros. With that said, I agree with those that say Hope is doing thing for attention. If she had it so bad and Maks was so intolerable, she should have walked away, her people should have made her walk away. Saying you don’t want to look bad in the press is nuts. If the situation is that bad, I would think dealing with the press would be easier. And like others have said, she seems to have issues with someone all the time. Yes, she’s overcome a lot, she should be proud of what she’s accomplished in soccer, but she has issues that she needs to deal with. I hope too, that those at DWTS support Maks and it’s going to be very interesting to see how it goes for Kirstie and Maks this season.
No, I did not read it, nor did I read Maks tweets. And I won’t. I just think the whole situation is needless, and sad. And, it’s one where there will be no winners. I don’t think Maks is fully in the right, nor is he fully in the wrong, and the same goes for Hope. Hope may have an agenda, and she may have gone about things in the wrong way (my opinion), and I don’t see how she could feel blameless over the whole thing. Not just DWTS, but everything in her book. Eventually, people need to sit down, grow up, and examine their lives to figure out what they’re doing right or wrong, and change things so they don’t keep finding themselves in the same situation…
And Maks? He is definitely not going to be the same Maks, and will have permanent mental scars. Yes, he and Hope had a very volatile working relationship, but he did put a lot of trust and faith in her, and she has betrayed that…. Having a successful working relationship on DWTS, I think pairs NEED a lot of faith and trust in each other, going both ways.
Ladies –
Thanks for the commentary. I couldn’t have said it better myself.
I think it’s despicable behavior from a gold-medal Olympian…..what kind of example does she thinks she sets for young girls – either way you slice it….if she’s lying or if she put up with abusive behavior. I gotta say, I think she lacks credibility. You address that behavior at the time and place it occurs. Furthermore, I don’t know what employer (ABC, DWTS, producers) would put up with abusive behavior when they could be subject to a lawsuit themselves for allowing such an environment. Based on that, I don’t think her alleged slap happened.
I do think that Maks (and, no, I’m not a huge Maks fan, but I do respect his accomplishments) has grounds for a lawsuit! Wonder if Gloria Allred would take this one on!
I think they both behaved very poorly that season, they were both mean to the other. They both need a dose of self awareness and a decrease in always blaming someone else.
I think you women did an excellent and extremely thoughtful job with this very hard subject. I completely agree about the power balance, or lack of her being in a position submissive to him or trapped in a situation. If she wants to be a role model for young women, she should have treated him with more respect from the start and if he treated her disrespectfully, she should have stood up to him then.
It’s been two days now and I have to admit that it bothers me that there’s been no word from Maks and his camp other than a few vague tweets.
We all know Maks isn’t shy about speaking his mind, even when he crosses a line. Same for Val. The fact that no one has said anything, even a simple “It’s ridiculous, I have nothing more to say” bothers me alot.
I don’t believe that Maks hit her, but I think the lack of any kind of comment or statement by him or Lizzie, or even the lack of any snark from Val on Twitter about it or her, gives just enough veracity to Hope’s claims to believe that SOMETHING happened, even if it’s not exactly how she said, and that it wasn’t good.
Well, they won’t say a thing without ABC’s approval – he does still work for them. Another reason for not saying anything is if he is indeed planning on suing.
Not only does he work for them, THEY’RE coming off in a bad light as well, so definitely not the time to fire back without thinking things through.
Well Donna and Katerina, here’s one photo for you from some pics taken Nov. 30, 2011.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Maksim-Chmerkovskiy-Hope-Solo-Fan-Page/229899080391581#!/photo.php?fbid=267745516606937&set=a.250697081645114.60509.229899080391581&type=1
These were taken Oct. 26th, 2011 (wasn’t this after the alleged slap?);
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Maksim-Chmerkovskiy-Hope-Solo-Fan-Page/229899080391581#!/photo.php?fbid=283493145015103&set=a.257693080928443.68577.193992420631843&type=3&theater
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Maksim-Chmerkovskiy-Hope-Solo-Fan-Page/229899080391581#!/photo.php?fbid=283493161681768&set=a.257693080928443.68577.193992420631843&type=3&theater
I think its smart for him to not say nething right now you all know how the media can take comments and misconstrue them out of context. At then end of the day he still works for ABC and needs to consult them on how to handle it,. I dont think keeping quiet proves he guilty maybe he just doesnt want to give Hope the attention she is craving for.
That’s what bothers me too.
I’m not a fan of either Maks or Hope, but it seems to me that their “friendship” wasn’t much of one. It always looked forced to me. Of course Maks would think they are friends because he never thinks he does anything wrong. As to why Hope didn’t just walk off DWTS, she seems to take pride in being tough and probably didn’t want to let Maks’s behavior chase her off the show. And his behavior did get better, after producers intervened. As for the timing of the book, it can take a year to get a book written and published. I do agree that she should have warned Maks about the book but surely her publisher advised her against it in order to create the exact buzz that has occurred. I’m glad that DWTS doesn’t premiere for another month. Maybe this will all be over by then.
Gloria would represent Hope…that’s her “thing”. I know her daughter and well….enough said
ABC quieted Maks after that season…perhaps they are telling him to hush now…who knows? Heck, I still want to see the Jaleel footage which mysteriously now doesn’t exist.
And it appears that overnight, Hope has deleted all her tweets she’s sent to Maks as well as a photo of them together. Doncha think her lawyers would have had her do that long ago? Especially given her less than stellar record on Twitter?
Her behavior is just so damned hinky! Again, I don’t say Maks is totally blameless in all this, but honestly… something stinks.
Voyeurista: those photos aren’t evidence of a real friendship. They know they are being photographed. Isn’t DWTS motto for couples to put on a happy face even if you can’t stand each other??
Yeah, it’s really tough and really courageous to sit back, pretend to Maks face that everything is fine and then drop the bomb in a book.
And Jaleel has NOTHING to do with this. We never had any proof than anything actually happened there, did we?
She should slap herself. (Into reality).
DWTS needs a “bad boy”….they picked Maks. They’ll continue to do whatever they can to maintain the image. If it wasn’t him they’d have to find another. (I can tell you from personal experience that ALL of these pros that I have met have tempers and a very “hands on” approach with their students……with the exception of ONE.)
Quick note on the Jaleel issue: all we have to go on is some murmurings from the gossip rags and a little bit from Mark. Kym never said anything, Jaleel never really said anything, Donald (who was allegedly there as well) never said anything, and our “sources on the inside” said that they didn’t hear anything. All speculation.
Carry on…
Wholeheartedly Evaine #53 + #78
I don’t know how to put this because I don’t hate Maks which seems to be everyones first reaction if you say you’re not somebodys biggest fan. I have enjoyed watching him sometimes liked his attitude at times and have even agreed with him at times…but I also have a lot of problems regarding him and his atitude.
That being said….no-one deserved the kind of disrespect he had to take from her from the beginning. He is an accomplished person and a professional. I even think that he realizes that he comes across badly, at times and trys to be more moderate. And like you said, I can’t even imagine how he managed not to blow after weeks of her and her snotty remarks. I really think what got to him more than anything was that he finally thought, gee,I have a younger woman, athletic partner and an Olympian(and all the olympians on the show had been so nice and “in control”, hard working and realistic in what they thought they could do(remember Hope’s comments about judges scores when they were already TOO high?). Again, I am not excusing his roughness…but he must have been so disallusioned by then.
I also think things might get very quiet on both sides because one way orthe other, if law suits are being threatened(or she has proof), all will be told they can’t comment.
Hope was on Morning Joe (political/news show) last week pushing her book. I was appalled by her attitude on the show, she rarely smiled, and well…acted like a b..ch IMO. DWTS was never mentioned. I truly think the woman needs help. I love Maks, but have never condoned his behavior with Hope, it was wrong. BUT, I don’t believe a word she is saying now. Thanks for your opinion, ladies.
#87 Evaine I totally agree with you that ABC is also looking terrible. And again, the fact no one is saying anything makes me think there’s something there. Not quite what Hope is making it out to be, but something.
#88 Voguerista The first photo is the one I’ve seen that looks like a publicity photo to me. The others appear to be from during the season out in LA. I’m talking about the tweets I keep seeing from Maks’s fans claiming they had numerous dinners together in NYC after her season ended.
This is all just so sad and frustrating. There are so many twists & turns here, I don’t know what to think anymore.
I guess we’ll have to wait at least until Monday to see if ABC/BBC Worldwide have anything to say… and this could (and probably will) drag on for quite some time.
What the hell has happened to my fluffy, glittery, little dancing show?
Regarding any kind of bad behavior during DWTS rehearsals, NO ONE, least of all anyone on the “inside,” is going to say anything because they have a show to protect. Everyone would be affected by bad publicity.
Echoing what I believe Heidi said earlier, silence is neither an indicator of guilt, nor of innocence – if anything, I think it’s an indicator that Maks and/or ABC are quietly plotting their next move. Either that, or they just don’t see this trashy book Hope has written (or some of the ridiculous allegations herein) as much of a threat – if you don’t see it really causing any problems in the long run, why waste time, money, and energy fighting it? Sometimes, it’s just better to let things like this fade away – sometimes gratifying it with a response just makes it even worse. Think about it: if ABC and/or Maks doesn’t say another word about this rubbish, do you think people will still be talking about it a month from now? I don’t. At that point, if Hope is still blowing hot air about the whole thing, it’s just going to make her look even more foolish and money-hungry…and she’ll probably just take a back seat to the buzz of the all-star season premiere anyway
Hope, your season was a year ago – get over it.
Jean, is there a reason why you’ve switched names from jl2285? Just seems a bit deceptive to me.
And clearly you’ve never heard the phrase “any publicity is good publicity” – obviously SOMEONE on the inside leaked the bit about Jaleel, and the tabloid circus that followed probably brought all sorts of attention to the show. And I can tell you this much: Conrad Green doesn’t give a sh*t if his show is getting attention for good reasons or bad reasons, as long as its getting attention. So your whole point about no one leaking from the inside? Kinda dumb.
Hi Princess Heidi — thanks for your response. I appreciate that we have different opinions (although we are probably not as far off from one another as you think). One clarification. You wrote: “But I will say that you very blithely confuse ‘fair’ and the creation of ‘storylines’ (things we all knew years ago) with the actual voting and elimination. That’s a convenient mixing of the issues.”
Apologies for being unclear there. I did not mean to mix the issues, conveniently or otherwise. Yes, I agree there is actual voting and that the voting itself is legit. I also noted that I thought Hope was confused (at best) about the so-called memo. Whether she misunderstood a backhanded term (ala “didn’t you get the memo?” sarcasm) I cannot say. And I agree that TPTB cannot control the vote from week one. They CAN of course, control the narrative, as so many have mentioned. And they can control the scores. Also, once the voting is tabulated, they can give a heads up to a contestant that they’re being voted out. (You have no reason to believe me on this, and that’s okay, but it has happened at least once.) I think that’s why I believe Hope misunderstood something, rather than calling her an out-right liar. But who knows.
And incidentally, I agree that it’s not wrong to question someone since abuse IS a serious allegation and the accusation can cause as much damage as a conviction.
Equal does mean equal. So I guess we’re mostly apart on how much credence to give Hope despite her unlikable personality!
My only comment on the friendship is that I have only followed Maks on Twitter and on your site. I don’t know all the ins and outs and don’t follow Hope. To me, from the few tweets I saw, it seemed like staged PR as damage control after “the shove” incident on TV. Lizzie Grubman is a master PR-spinner and I didn’t think much more than “Ahh, Lizzie’s earning her pay” at the time. As Hope noted, Maks was apologetic, and perhaps she wanted to help. Or maybe she’s completely psycho. BUT I’ll defer to your knowledge since you have probably seen more than I have. I can only judge what I saw with my own eyes on the one clip that was made public and the fact that ABC was concerned enough to create some sort of document with Hope (and of all the allegations, that’s the one I’m comfortable believing since any reputable book publisher would have asked to see the doc to cover their own behinds). That clip alone was over the top for me, regardless of anything else she says. It showed a man out of control. Based on the pages I read, I suspect there was a hard slap on the stomach (like the one in the rehearsal), but I think the “slap” in the face was a matter of interpretation (positioning her head), again, like the rehearsal clip. But ultimately I’m just glad that Maks woke up and hopefully is discontinuing that sort of behavior. Looking at his reaction as that clip aired, I think he was shocked at his behavior as well, and learned from it. We all need a wake-up call sometimes. This was Maks’.
Hi Courtney, thanks for your response. Yeah, lol, I guess my comment was pretty long-ass. LOL Sorry. As for the Communications Act of 1939, that doesn’t cover game shows. It and the 1996 version cover licensing, standards (such as violence and profanity) etc. Game shows were subject to strict laws after the scandal in the 50s. Reality shows are not subject to those laws and have a lot more leeway. They are ultimately answerable to the great ratings-gods so networks try not to be too egregious but really, their behavior is wide open for any manipulation they want to pull. Apologies for any confusion.
#105 Courtney Will they still be talking about it a month from now? I guess in my mind it depends on what we see on the show. Because I think from now on, for as long as he remains with the show, any time Maks is shown in a video package being anything less than sweetness and light, it has a chance of being brought back up. Particularly if he gets a partner he’s not that happy with and brings out some of his douchey behavior. LOL
Courtney: My husband suggested I be more anonymous on these websites. Apparently my attempt didn’t work. Sorry if I seemed deceptive.
I still think bad pubicity does no one any good. I don’t think my point was dumb.
Donna, I’ve seen the pap pics too that the Maks fans have seen that they talk on at twitter. They were of them in NYC, but, I can’t remember which tabloid posted them now. And I’m sorry, but, that first pic is not a publicity picture.
Seriously? yeah right. lol Jean, we will have to definitely agree to disagree.
And if she’s deleted tweets now and pics at her twitter, she’s looking even more guilty of lying.
Court, I agree, Maks and ABC don’t need to say anything. Besides, Hope is currently hanging herself without their help.
I have one saved to my hard drive that has Hope snuggled up to Maks’ side and they’re holding a Russian doll… I think it’s in NYC but I, of course, didn’t date it. *LOL* Hope is wearing a lacy type top.
I also have a screen grab of her birthday tweet to him.
*shrug*
LOL Evaine. I’ve seen those too as well as a poor lighted one of them walking down a street arm and arm.
@Sally, I agree……
WE NEED THE GLITTER FAIRY!!
Well, I didn’t read all the comments, but read the post. Now I go seriously…
Well, I’m not Maksim’s fan. I used to, until the end of Season 5 when he overeacted to Helio during an interview to Mario Lopez.
This said, I think Maksim’s problem is – besides his cockiness and arrogance – the way he teaches on DwtS. He’s not soft. I know the time is short and the star don’t learn how to dance, but just how to perform a choreography. Which is completely different things. But when the star stuck, some of the pros try another way for the star to learn. Maksim just goes running over. How many times did we see him saying “just go!”, “you just follow me, I’ll do the rest”. IMO, this isn’t the best way to go with a person who is struggling on a dance step/routine.
Hope wasn’t a good dancer, but he talked a lot during that season that she was. He made her belive that they was being robbed all the time. You don’t need to do a lot of reaserch, just watch some episode from the middle of the season. Hope’s tecnique was always terrible and had no big improviment. But he thought that they were good, deserved better scores, deserved more love, and always talked about this to Hope. The top of Maksim’s blindness – and his inflated ego – was the “my show” comment.
Look, we have hard male pros, such as Derek – we can see how frustrate he can be when his partner doesn’t go the right way – and Louis (specially on season 2). I can remember right now when Derek pushed Maria and she hited her face on the ground. He said he was sorry and talked to her. When Makism was rehearsing with Kirstie to the insant salsa (or something like that… she was in blue) she went too hard and hited the wall. what did he do? put the hand on his face. Back to the group paso rehearsal, Maksim pushes Hope like she’s a puppet. He’s dancing with her, not connected with her… He leaves… who helps? the prince, Derek.=p
Yes, I’m judging Maksim on all these episodes. Sorry. Mistakes. Anyone can do. But he seems to do more than others. Maybe it’s just the way he is, nobody’s perfect. But even not being perfect, can’t he just try to be a little better with his approach to his partners?
I can’t lie, I’m not his fan, bu I admire when he dances latin with the pros, some of his choreographies to pros are amazing and he may be a nice guy when the camera is off. I like his commitment to the show and passion to his work but sometimes it’s too much. He needs to control it.
About Hope’s book you can see how out of reality she is. Maybe she got wrong, maybe she got hit, but definely, DwtS wasn’t good for her, and she’s trying to get benefit of it. If was Maksim and I didn’t slap her, I just sue her. Come one ladies, he’s not a fool. This is showbusiness and nobody is 100% guilty or innocent. He could use this on his favour, if he wants.
Uh, about Jaleel, I don’t like the guy.
hmmm….I went to look at her twitter, and i can still see all her tweets, the birthday one and the Olympic one
Really Tara? I didn’t go and check this morning, seeing as I heard it from 3 different sources. So, if I reported erroneously, I am sorry.
- Those photos from NYC were photo op. It’s not that difficult to imagine. She also said that her tweet to Maks was her being sarcastic because Maks was talking about her. And honestly, Maks would have gone to London if she had really invited him.
- ABC doesn’t have to say anything because they’ve covered their a***s already. They can’t defend Maks because it would contradict their letters. They’ve said they condem Maks’ behavior in that letter.
No, Maddy, he wouldn’t have, he was in the midst of filming his Ukranian game show which only wrapped on the 13th – AFTER the Olympics.
Photo op or not, you sorta have to be on speaking terms to be creating a photo op AFTER the show is over. And if she felt he abused her so badly, she wouldn’t be speaking to him. She wouldn’t be letting him near her for no good reason.
As far as ABC goes, I think they might have to address the statements in her book about the secret memos etc… AGain, though, it could be that silence is golden in this situation. I just don’t know.
I agree that they seemed to be getting along and have some sort of friendship, maybe that was established after this incident but I was still pretty shocked when i read it to be honest. She says that her book was delayed a couple of times (the latest by her coach) and that her sessions with her co-author were like therapy and it took time to process what happened. Honestly I wished she has left out the DWTS stuff because her book is a great read and to me didn’t really add anything
How many Hollywood couples we’ve seen all coupled up a day or two before we hear they filed for divorced?
You don’t have to be friendly for photo ops, your managers arranged that.
You misunderstand me, Maddy. Why would they NEED a photo op after the show was over?
That photo in NYC where they are both wearing the brown coats, I remember at the time a lot of people thought it looked co-ordinated and posed, like they even planned what to wear LOL
If Hope had actually invited him, he would have gone. She told him, sarcasticly, less than 24 hours before the game that she’ll save him a seat. C’mon, that’s not a real invitation.
Evaine, to show they were not sore losers and they were on speaking terms. I guess it worked because some believed it.
i don’t understand why this wouldn’t be true. what hope describes seems to me like an extension of what we’ve actually seen on dwts, not something implausible. as for the “secret memo” thing, i don’t know why you guys are so quick to dismiss that either. isn’t it common knowledge that reality shows are rigged? the whole point of them is that they are made to seem like ‘reality’ to get the viewer interested, but they’re as scripted as anything else on tv.
@Maddy
Why would they need to show they weren’t sore losers? That makes no sense. Who would care?
And, did you miss the part where Maks was busy during the Olympics? How do you know that Maks would have gone?
Rooster, if you read the comments, you could see why a lot of people are dismissing her claims.
Hope did Maks wrong by maintaining a friendly relationship with him after the show and then blindsiding him with the book.
No warning, no clue up to the very last moment. He was rooting for her during the Olympics, not so nice. If she has no real proof to back up her claims, she is going to look like a real fool… not that she isn’t looking like one already
Carlos, Derek did not push Maria so that she hit her face on the ground. She hit her face on the ground when he was pulling her between his legs.
And people wonder how rumors get started. Derek is not “easy” by any stretch of the imagination. He is intense. But he’s certainly not in Maks’ league.
:::sigh::: Rooster, we’ve been over the scripted versus rigged aspect of the show. I suggest reading all the comments before commenting. I know it’s hard, but it’s only polite.
Tara, where did you check her twitter?? If you checked it on your phone, it could still show up if it’s been deleted from her timeline, depending on the phone and the ap. Certain apps on iPads will still show deleted tweets as well. You have to look at her timeline on a PC to be sure, I believe.
But Kallie, the discussion was about an actual memo going around on who was going to be eliminated from one week to the next. You confused the actual issue with one that wasn’t in question. Of course they control the narrative – but anyone who has been on the show for a while KNOWS this and knows not to give them what they crave – drama. Maks should know this but either forgets or doesn’t bother to change his behavior accordingly. NONE of this is news. Derek and Nicole singing “The camera’s really on me now” as a way to remind themselves that everything they do is on film….a variety of different pros looking right into the camera and making faces when something happens, good or bad – all are instances of them acknowledging that somethings likely to show up on TV. This isn’t news.
I don’t think they get a heads up when they’re going to be voted out…they enjoy making them sweat too much. If it happened once in 14 seasons you can hardly call it a regular thing. I doubt it very much. I do think that the pros, especially Derek, are very good at reading the tea leaves. And I think Maks was reading tea leaves thinking they were going and told Hope – she misinterpreted it. Or she’s an idiot, which is my opinion.
And sorry, but Lizzie Grubman is a moron in my book. The memo – could easily have been written up to cover what we saw on the show. That’s the problem that Maks is in right now – he gave them just enough to make anything she says seem plausible.
I don’t want to appear to be too “conspiracy theorist”, but I wonder… the “secret memo” that Hope mentions – we’ve debated many times here about the judge’s scores. What sometimes appears to be a “hit” on a specific celeb (like all of the talk about Ralph). And as we’ve seen with Heidi’s numbers posts, it is possible for the judges to put a given celeb so far down in a hole that’s its practically impossible for the voters to dig them out. Could it be that is what the “secret memo” is about? Instructions to Larry, Moe, and Curly to put someone behind the 8-ball? There wouldn’t be any need to actually finagle around with the voting (which I agree would get them into huge trouble)…
One less book for me to read.
To need a memo for that, Sally? I think some of them are stupid, but not THAT stupid.
Occams Razor – simplest explanation…meaning the judges have their favorites and often those favorites coincide with who tptb want to stick around.
And really…who needed a fucking memo to know that JR was going to win? We posted it week ONE!! Who needed a conspiracy to know Kirstie was going to stick around? These thing are often obvious. Also…I think the judges often score in a way to coincide with the audience vote (moreso in early weeks) because they want to appear in the know. They want to be RIGHT.
ETA: Big Brother is in ratings trouble because they tinker with that show too much in terms of manipulation and long time fans know it. I think that tptb and the judges on dwts try to keep it a bit real with the scores cuz they know the audience isn’t stupid anymore. they can only go so far. Dwts gets a lot of media shit if the scoring gets too wack…BB doesn’t have that check.
Thanks, Princess Heidi. You wrote:
“I don’t think they get a heads up when they’re going to be voted out…they enjoy making them sweat too much. If it happened once in 14 seasons you can hardly call it a regular thing. I doubt it very much. I do think that the pros, especially Derek, are very good at reading the tea leaves. And I think Maks was reading tea leaves thinking they were going and told Hope – she misinterpreted it. Or she’s an idiot, which is my opinion.”
Actually, I agree with this.
Then you wrote:
“And sorry, but Lizzie Grubman is a moron in my book. ”
LOL … and I agree with this one too!
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/celebrity/nuisances/lizzie-grubman
I don’t know about a memo or anything but the eliminations in recent seasons have seemed incredibly staged, almost as if the show was arranging the eliminations. Dancing first in the early weeks leaves you very vulnerable to elimination and y guess is having Jack Wagner and Sherri Shepherd dance first the weeks they did last season was a way of the show manipulating to get them leaving that week. The producers see the vote totals and I would bet my life Jack and Sherri were towards the bottom after Martina and Gavin the first weeks. And of course there was the dance duel which continued the manipulation.
After reading all the comments, just wanted to put my opinion out there. I agree with those that think that Maks and Hope are interpreting their experiences together in much different ways. I am by no means a fan of Maks and actually dislike him immensely for the rough way he treated some of his partners and his disrespectful comments towards judges and fellow pros in the past… but I don’t think he is an inherently bad person. I just think he gets too rough and defensive some times. Hope, I think is worse than Maks! The timing of these allegations with her book release right after the Olympics and right before the start of the All-Star season, her reputation with her coaches and teammates, her attitude towards DWTS and Maks…. it’s like a perfect storm for a shitload of messiness. I get the feeling that Hope just loves trouble, so no wonder TPTB thought Maks and Hope would be an interesting pairing. I think Maks was very rough with her during practice, but I don’t believe how Hope describes it in her book … the only thing I do believe in those DWTS pages is how she described Derek as the most popular pro! Hahahaha! Well, it is the truth..
I just wanted to post because I feel that there are some things here about Hope Solo that are just way off and should be explained a bit better. Pretty much the majority of things said about Hope here are unfortunately not accurate at all.
1) Hope IMMEDIATELY told Maks don’t ever do that again right after the incident. They immediately met with everybody they needed to. Remember that paparazzi footage of Hope and Maks outside, where Maks looks like he’s the guiltiest person in the entire world? That could be a clue. Especially if Hope says she stayed and worked with Derek for the rest of the day. I think that video could have been after the slap incident. It makes more sense, since Hope says that she walked out, took off her mike, and Maks followed her and was very apologetic. When he walked out after the shove, she stayed with Derek, it doesn’t look like they worked together the rest of the day (her and Maks). Just trying to put it together. All the people were met with though, hers, ABC, everybody and a document was written. I think Hope did not want to look like the bad person here, this was what Week 7, can you imagine if Maks got fired and Hope continued on with a different partner. I would seriously hate to think the reaction and everything that would follow that!
2) A lot of people here are not getting the vibe of her book at all it looks like to me. The DWTS thing is like 2 pages. The book is about her family, soccer, the World Cup, the Olympics, her personal life, her boyfriend, her friends, she is just telling her LIFE story. This is just ONE part of it. Her book was written MONTHS ago, and they decided to delay publication because her coach advised her to do so to focus on the Olympics and not have to discuss the 2007 World Cup that is in her book (that would obviously come up in interviews in London).
3) Hope is known as a truth-teller, someone who keeps it real, and actually gets in trouble for being too real, too honest, too straight-forward. People don’t like her because she says what everybody is thinking. I have no doubt that she probably pushed some of Maks’ buttons or got on his nerves. Her personality can do that. However, he still should not shove, push, or slap her.
4) I do believe that Hope and Maks would interpret a slap differently, because Maks just has such a tough Ukrainian type of background that I can see why he might think moving someone’s head is not a slap or whatever. It does not change the fact that Hope interpreted and saw it as such. It does NOT make her a liar.
5) Hope has NEVER deleted any tweets to or from Maks or any pictures. She still follows him, I don’t think I remember her ever unfollowing someone before to be honest.
6) I do think their friendship was weird and fake. There is only ONE picture of them after the show, in NYC with the camel colored jackets. Look at Hope’s face. That looks so fake. A lot of us fans thought that at the time too. I don’t think they have hung out since then. I never got the impression they were really friends at all. I totally think that they just kept up appearances, and just basically did whatever you’re supposed to do. They never hung out like other couples after the show, even at the finale Hope sat by her boyfriend and Val! Maks was next to Kirstie. Basically, everyone who was saying, as soon as this is over, they are going so far away from each other, was right. They are kind of like Laila and Maks in that sense, I guess. They are just not friends, you can tell. I know Hope from a fan perspective, and all her tweets to Maks always sounded like I’m doing this for show. Maybe the show asked them to do that, until now. Maybe something expires now, and Hope can say whatever she wants now. This book was written a long time ago, people were preordering back in January and she was working on it so long ago. She has ALWAYS wanted to write a book, she had been asked to write a book years ago and she said she did not feel like it was the right time yet. She has an interesting story, with her father being homeless, then meeting up with him again and starting a wonderful relationship with him, then his death in 2007, the World Cup controversy. DWTS is seriously at the very end and it looks like she just wanted everyone to know the truth. Like she always wants everyone to know the truth. Hope is the first person on Team USA that will say, we were outplayed, they deserved it, that was not right, this was not right, she believes in honest outcomes. When she makes a mistake, she OWNS up to it, she does in the book on different occasions.
7) After the shoving incident and the slap that Hope talks about (when it would have happened), Maks looked like he was the guiltiest person on the planet from there on out on the show. I do believe that he almost got fired and was on his best behavior and still probably dazed by everything that had happened. Go back and watch those episodes. Guy looks strange and guilty as anything I’ve ever seen before. I think it had to do with more than just that shove. It really does look like he was in huge trouble, almost got fired!
8) Hope has no reason to make this stuff up. Like I said, she is an honest person by nature. She is a Leo, for all you Zodiac people out there. Her team is from Wasserman Media Group, one of the best agencies out there, they represent some of the best athletes. Her agent Richard is a lawyer, so is her manager Whitney. These people know what’s up. Her publisher is HarperCollins, well-known company.
9) Hope Solo is a professional athlete, she is NOT a reality tv personality or some other person that needs to stay relevant. SHE JUST WON HER SECOND OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL! She’s got million dollar endorsements, was on the cover of Vogue, other magazines, she does not need Hollywood or any of that stuff, so she is calling everybody out on how it really went down in HER LIFE STORY. Like, I said the DWTS part is like 2 pages! Her book is really for soccer fans, her fans and just people that want to read her inspirational, motivational story. It is also actually spiritual in nature as well as her grandparents were pastors of a church. This book is not Maks and DWTS, that is just a PART of it.
10) Hope also only mentions ONE other incident where the US coach at the time Greg Ryan was meeting with her to bench her for a game against Brazil in 2007 World Cup. They were done talking, she got up to leave, and he shoved her back on the couch and said she is to leave when he says she can leave. She was shocked that he had shoved her, obviously. There was another person in the room, another coach, I believe the goalkeeper coach who witnessed it. She has NO reason to lie about that. Of course, the coach is going to deny it. Let me remind you that he was fired shortly after, and EVERYONE agrees he was not the coach US Soccer needed. Hope has a very good relationship with the president of US Soccer and the CEO or Vice President of US Soccer. The coach was WRONG, WITH EVERYTHING, benching her, the shove, how he dealt with the team. It was really just a matter of time.
You really can’t get the whole story from just a part of it, after reading her book, you can understand more what type of person she is. I know a lot of people have no idea who she is. That’s why you can’t really just judge her without knowing even a little of how she is. Hope can be annoying, get on your nerves, talk too much whatever. Like I said, she is your typical Leo. Loud and proud, all of that, but she is also warm, generous, EXTREMELY fan-friendly. The fans of the USWNT will tell you that Hope is one of the best, if not THE best with fans. I GUARANTEE you that completely! She is also VERY honest. I cannot tell you guys how much that is a part of her nature, to speak out and tell the truth when others won’t. This has gotten her in trouble before, with fans at a game after hearing negative, racist things said towards teammates. She stood up for her teammates and a lot of people hated her for that, but she feels the need to be real at all times.
I hope I have cleared up some things. Sorry so long with this post.
Again I have gone on my pc, I use google chrome and have opened her twitter page. I clicked on the ALL next to the NO REPLIES and I can see all of her tweets and pictures that she sent to Maks or has of Maks. Like info.hope says if you knew her, you would know that she NEVER backs down nor will she delete tweets that people don’t like. She also follows some people that she clearly doesn’t like or disagrees with on certain things but I’ve never seen her unfollow anyone or block anyone – she puts some idiots in their place in her typical sassy way!
I agree with info.Hope – a great post from a soccer fan that gives you some great insights of Hope and a different perspective
There are those who will say they “know” Maks and can vouch for his innocence without ever having met him. There are those who will excuse any type of behavior by a man they think is handsome. Some think they know how every person should behave in an abuse situation and the precise amount of time it “should” take them to find the courage to come forward. The truth is, most of us do not know Max or hope, and most of us do not know what truly happened between them. There is certainly enough smoke to determine a fire but I don’t like to pronounce a person guilty of a serious allegation any more than I would dismiss a person’s account of having been abused. I say it needs to be investigated. The producers need to release the backstage videotapes and reveal what they know, as do any other possible witnesses. If, in fact, he is abusive, he needs to be dismissed from the show. By the same token, if she is not being truthful, she should be charged for libel an defammation of character.
@tara… I checked last night and see no tweets to Maks that were reportedly deleted. None wishing him a happy birthday or to come to the Olympics. I don’t follow Hope, so my cache would be clear.
Hope also wrote that the coach shoved her and he has denied it vehemently and that it never happened. I’d give Maks the benefit of the doubt to some extent. Hope may be taking a situation and putting her interpretation on it.
The newest “thing” by those who think they know Maks because they met him a few times or watched him since day one is to harass Hope Solo on twitter.. re-send her her old tweets from her time on DWTS. Or call her a liar and whatnot. I guess they don’t believe some of those tweets were not done to “save face” after that bad situation she described. Someone brought up the matching coat photo, and yes a few people thought at the time that was suspect. Maks’ timeline on twitter is pretty quite if you filter out the Hope harassers.
No, Andrea, it’s always been that way. I would guess that they NEVER expected Sherri to leave when she did and, since she works for ABC, certainly didn’t want her to leave that early. No way. And SOMEONE has to go first. Going first, despite what you say, is NOT the bad spot to be in – Courtney has done the math. Going second or third is worse. Regardless…someone HAS to go second and third too.
I think some here are giving them more credit than they deserve. Sure they manipulate – but not to get certain people OFF the show, to keep certain people ON the show. There is a huge difference there. They wanted Kirstie to stay. I would bet they really wanted Sherri to stay also – they failed. They fail, I think, because there is a limit to what they can do without turning the audience completely off. Everything is about ratings. If you are a ratings grabber you’re going to go first, the top of the second hour, or close to the end. Period. Yes, that benefits those that are ratings grabbers and harms those that aren’t – but “ratings grabbers” are ratings grabbers for a reason. They’re likely getting the votes too.
I think MANY fans tend to increase the producer manipulation factor in their minds to explain why their favorite didn’t do as well as they thought they should have.
Oh joy – we now have people citing zodiac pseudoscience as proof of Hope’s innocence. Congrats, Info.Hope – you’ve successfully erased what little credibility you might have had around here.
[...] Then on Thursday, Kirstie tweeted, “Just wanted to say..DWTS is THE most REAL reality show on TV..what u see is what u get.. It’s tough and sparkly and 100% The REAL DEAL!!” Did Kirstie mean these words in addressing Hope Solo’s Dancing With The Stars comments in her new book since this is when the story broke out about them? Not sure, but, it sure is an interesting tweet regardless. For more on this topic, be sure you read our Hope Solo on Maks and DWTS – Opinion Piece. [...]
Hope needs to come up with some physical proof of her claims really soon.. if not, she is done. Don’t know what her motive is, but she could destroy herself with these claims.
Well, I debated whether to respond to the serious fangirl that is info.hope – I mean, what’s the point?? But certain things, I just can’t let slide by:
1) Um, what’s your point? Hope didn’t want to look bad? Um…too late.
2) The DWTS part is more like 7 to 9 pages. I have them on my computer. Hard to miss that vibe in that section and that’s the point of this post.
3) Truth teller?? HER truth. HER reality. If she’s so “real” why was Maks so shocked by what’s in this book, eh?
4) Hmmm….so? Her reality can be wacky. Doesn’t make her RIGHT.
5) Whoopee
6) I thought you said Hope kept it real and was never a fake person?? So why keep up appearances?? That is so…fake. And why is the part where they had to do it for appeances not in the book?? Cuz it doesn’t fit her narrative, eh?
7) Maybe he looked guilty. He was guilty about that rehearsal footage that was shown – you can’t interpret more than that, logically.
8) Of course she does!!! She’s trying to sell BOOKS!! She doesn’t have to “make stuff up” only embellish to keep herself safe legally. Which is another way of being “fake”.
9) So, all that makes her more real? um…no. And again, it’s 7 or 9 pages, not 2. You also have a tendency toward hyperbole. Or reverse hyperbole…what’s the word for that. Extreme underplaying…
10) Blah blah blah…thats all I got on that one.
Again, her truth, her reality….doesn’t make it everyone’s reality. Her mistake is believing her version of events is the only “truth” and “reality” there is. And that is arrogance.
LOL – never backs down. Never backing down is not necessarily a good thing. If you are in the wrong and you won’t back down? Hmmm….there’s a word for that….sounds like how people describe Maks too, actually.
Again, I ask – if Hope is so “real” why is she so worried about saving face and keeping up appearances?? The two things don’t go together.
I would just LOVE to see Kirstie Alley’s S15 contract
@ Infohope like Heidi said we can only hold Maks accountable for the actions we saw in the rehearsal footage because we the viewers didnt see any of evidence of abuse which makes this argument into a he said she said match right now. If she refused to take a new partner and her allegations in her book about the slap dont you think the show would let Maks go after the season ended because he would be too big of a liability to have back to compete with Melissa because if he hit Hope what wouldve said he wouldnt have done it to Melissa or any other of his pervious partners and that they wouldnt have come forward about it like Erin Andrew, Kristie Alley and Brandi would be very vocal about it. Also there are 3 sides to every story this one has Hope’s side, Maks’ side and the truth and so far the public only knows Hope’s side of the story.
Oy vey!
What a hot mess. All I wanted to say on this is that given the pattern of behavior of both Hope and Maks before and after their coupling , they can both not be believed or be believed if that’s how one chooses to see it.
I will say I remember when Hope was on DWTS spouting off, “they wanted us off the show from day one” and “They’re not going to bring me down” or something to that effect and thinking, geez this girl is a nutbag. I thought to myself where on earth did she get that crap from? Then I remember hearing Maks when Melissa was on spouting off how if they have to go into the dance duel they’ll be voted off no matter how well they dance etc. I know Maks was referring to the judges but he has said things about the production of the show as well. My point being I think it’s entirely plausible that when Hope is spewing these inaccuracies or lies depending on your pov about the inner workings of DWTS well I wonder where she got that from? Maks would by my conclusion. Whether there is an actual secret memo or not, for me isn’t the point, if Maks TOLD her that and she believed him as well as his history of they don’t like me blah, blah, blah well that would explain why his partners start to sound like him.
Of course with Hope’s problems it doesn’t help her credibility either but I could absolutely see Maks hitting her the way she says. I also know that that doesn’t mean that that is what happened but I would like to hear ABC deny it.
I am neither a Maks fan nor a Hope fan and there is his side, her side and the truth which I think lies somewhere in between, that being said there are a few things that do bother me.
First of all Hope Solo writes a book where she is in serious jeopardy of being sued for defamation if what she is stating is nothing but lies. I cannot imagine any publisher not doing serious fact checking before going up against a potential defamation of character lawsuit from ABC.
Second of all, Hope’s timing is suspicious which makes it a really gray area in my mind, publicity good or bad sells books.
Third why do the tapes of instances where there have been questions regarding either the behavior of a pro or a contestant (Jaleel) seem to always get lost. The lost tapes would prove either innocence or guilt and provide fans of the show with real answers as to who is actually telling the truth.
Fourth, I am a victim of abuse and it took a lot of therapy before I realized it wasn’t my fault. There is no way I’m saying Hope Solo doesn’t bear the responsibility for what she has said but it did cross my mind that she might have thought some of Maks’s behavior was normal until she starting writing the book and questioned his coaching technique. However, I do wonder and since it can’t be proved one way or the other if she isn’t exaggerating some of this, obviously some of Mak’s behavior towards her was bad, that is documented.
ABC makes a big deal about how they match the personalities of contestants to the pros, which by the way I don’t believe for a second, but if things were as bad as Hope wants to make us believe and she and Maks were a volatile pair, ABC, who owns and runs DWTS, should have intervened. However with ABC it’s all about ratings,and if they thought keeping this pair together would boost ratings they probably would have looked the other way.
That being said I do think Maks has anger management issues that need to be addressed as we have all seen, was it as severe at Hope Solo wants to make us believe, I have no idea.
As I said at the beginning of this long epistle I think the truth lies somewhere in between. If Maks is being slandered I would think ABC would stand behind him and file a lawsuit against Hope but so far they have said nothing but they may just be getting their ducks in a row. However, Hope can file a counter suit if what she is stating is the truth and provide the documentation she claims to have to back her up.
I have no idea what the truth is, I find Maks too temperamental but I also find Hope all too willing to cast stones at coaches she doesn’t like . I think the only way the truth and nothing but the truth will known is if this is taken into a court of law then we would have facts not just he said, she said which would not stand up in a court of law.
Sorry, this is so long but the only bottom line I see at this point is maybe, maybe not. I don’t think anyone can really make a judgment call on the information and facts that are avaiblable at this time.
I don’t know why Maks’s fans on Twitter think harassing Hope is helping him. His legal and management teams should be dealing with this situation, not a bunch of Internet ladies who think they know him and what happened just because they watch him on DWTS and follow him on Twitter.
These are people who have no idea what really happened calling Hope a liar. Claiming Maks should sue for slander. Considering these people have no idea what really did or didn’t happen, wouldn’t calling Hope a liar be the same grounds for slander? Particularly if someday a memo or video is produced that show her claims to be true?
I’m sorry, but tweeting someone is proof of nothing. I talk to plenty of people on Twitter and Facebook that I don’t like. Every time I get a friend request on Facebook from someone I couldn’t stand in high school I cringe. But I still accept the request, say hi, wish them a happy birthday. And I didn’t spend however many weeks publicly dancing with them as part of one of TV’s most popular shows.
Maks and/or Lizzie really need to tell these ladies to stop it before they make things even worse.
PH (133) – Fair enough. I didn’t take the memo part of “secret memo” too seriously – a “memo” as in “the word is out – you 3 Stooges need to take down couple X. And as I’ve said before here, Occams Razor could also apply to “TPTB have some inkling as to which couples generate ratings in their desired demographics, therefore, they’d like to steer the competition as much as possible in order to keep the largest number of eyeballs glued to TV sets.”
I disliked Hope from Day 1. She pushed Maks’ buttons from the very beginning with her disrespectful comments to him. I actually think she was insecure about dancing and didn’t want to look like a fool, so she tried to play the tough gal by being verbally abusive to him. I have no idea whether more than what we saw during the group dance rehearsal happened, but there is certainly proof of a shove. I can’t figure out why TPTB would show even the shove if more happened like Hope says. Wouldn’t they want to keep it ALL quiet if more happened??? But I do ask myself why they were not allowed to do press after their elimination and why Maks became so close-mouthed (for him) the rest of that season and in his season with Melissa. I wonder if he and TPTB knew something was brewing or they were worried that Hope would say something more about their training sessions. I also thought it was odd when Maks’ parents were on and felt like they had to state what a great son Maks was (my impression of that clip anyway). Something is fishy, but I still don’t think the “shove’ would be televised if more physical abuse took place. I agree with those who say there is “her truth, his truth and the real truth”. I hope that Hope sells few books, that Maks gets his temper in check (I think he has somewhat already) and that the whole thing blows over before the start of Season 15.
Okay, kids, hit me with your best shot!
A big part of the problem between Maks and Hope is they are exactly alike. And obviously, put 2 volatile people together long enough, and we end up with exactly what we saw on our TV screens. Obviously, the embers we thought had died are still simmering, and it’s been reignighted.
Info.Hope: “When (Hope) makes a mistake, she OWNS up to it…”
As a longtime follower of soccera, I have yet to witness an instance of Hope owning up to any of her faults, of which I’ve observed several. Every impression of her as a hardworking, talented, sometimes gracious athlete is matched by one of an emotionally wounded, translucent-skinned, illusioned, inflammatory, attention seeking, aspersion-casting spinmaster with a martyr complex…and that’s just in the last month alone! The question remains if she was any of those latter things in this instance. Let’s just say her track record may stand her in as bad stead as Mr. Chmerkovskiy’s does him.
Heidi, that really is the crux of the issue.
Heidi: “The probelm for Maks, unfortunately, is that just enough of it is true to make the rest of it seem plausible.”
That’s really the crux of it, Heidi. Could I see Hope misrepresenting this to drum up sales and get some personal vengance out of this? Sadly, yes.
Could I see Maks lashing out in a moment of frustration. Also sadly, yes.
For DWTS’ sake, this had best be a case of a badly vetted book. However given their lag in refute of the abuse part of her allegation, as well of lack of an official statement from Maks’ camp, I suspect there something there…sadly.
#154 Donna….they can’t help it. They are infected with the disease, Maksitis.
Maksim will be on Entertainment Tonight tonight. So, I’m sure we will get to hear his opinion on Hope’s accusations. I just pray he thinks out his responses before he speaks. I don’t think he slapped her nor do I believe her crap about DWTS management and memos. Unfortunately, “Shoulder-Gate” gives some sort of credibility to her accusations to the casual observer. As was mentioned earlier, the best lies have a kernel of truth in them.
everyone knows reality shows are rigged. i don’t see why this is an issue.
Granted, Maks’ “legal team” and ABC could be taking the time to get their ducks in a row before pursuing legal action, but I’m predicting they’re both hoping and praying that this little scandal goes away, and quickly. The true scandal would be if they allow him to return next season imo.
Because the show isn’t completely rigged, Rooster – as much as simple-minded folk like you & kallie seem to just want to write everything off as being “rigged”, the reality is that they cannot fix the votes, they cannot pre-determine who goes home each week, and they are CONTRACTUALLY REQUIRED to give every celeb a fair shake. Can they use their crafty powers of suggestion to try and sway the voters in a certain direction? Of course. But there are federal laws in place that prevent vote tampering & predetermining the outcome – laws which I guess I’m going to have to spell out in a future post for those who aren’t motivated enough to actually do a little research before making themselves look dumb by making claims like “the show is rigged”.
i don’t know why you’re so sensitive about this. i have friends who have been on reality tv and know others who have and they say it’s all determined from the outset. i’m not attempting to “write everything off,” i just don’t think hope’s claim about a “secret memo” is necessarily wrong. none of her claims about maks sound unreasonable to me considering how he’s behaved on the show. i just don’t see why you guys are so invested in defending dwts. is it because you’re a fan site? but does that make dwts perfect? i’m sure plenty of crap goes on behind the scenes, even abusive behavior.
Courtney, hope your mom is well soon! Sending good wishes!
Do you remember the DWTS chapter in Brooke’s book? How she described Derek as a “blond dictator”? and ruthless? and then she invited him to her wedding last year and they are best buddies, etc. Everything for ratings and sales.
In Hope’s case: I don’t think the slap happened. And for sure now with all the discussions, the books sale went up a bit… Good one!
EKate, that Brooke invited Derek to her wedding doesn’t mean she didn’t think he was ruthless during her season. People who plan to write books keep journals. That tells me that’s how she felt at that moment in time and that she got past it.
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:::rolls eyes::: Brooke thought Derek was cold and ignored her, when she was expecting Prince Charming. They talked it out, worked through it like adults and are now the best of friends. He regularly calls her his lucky charm. Hardly the same sort of situation and it’s very ignorant to compare them, IMO. He’s been to her house on numerous occasions and I believe she was the first person that he allowed to hear one of their songs a couple years ago.
While it is silly to believe everything you see on TV real, the equal and just as silly reaction is to believe everything is faked. The reality is somewhere in the middle.
Rooster, you’ve been trolling at my other site and now you’re trolling here? I blocked you there, don’t think I won’t do so here.
@Rooster certain things are manipulated like the dance duel snd WTA Cha-cha but when it comes to votes I dont think they really can manipulate that I’m sure if it was last season Sherri Sheppard would have lasted longer then she did because she works for ABC and the network could milk it by promoting her so much but she didnt get the votes to stay the week she got voted off. the video packages are the only thing i believe that are not real as they are edited and can be taken out of context or show the viewers certain things in rehearsal like Maks always yelling at his partner. They make it so every pro has some sort of reputation like Derek is the nice guy, Lacey is the rebel and Maks is the bad boy.
NEW UPDATE added to the first post about Maks and the show considering legal options against Hope!
Hmmm…didn’t consider that Hope would be in breach of contract. That’s a good angle.
If Hope is lying (which I strongly believe she is, for a number of reasons) I hope that Maks and/or ABC does sue, and wins.
Any kind of abuse is not a subject to be taken lightly, and making false claims hurts the real victims by making them have to fight that much harder to be believed. If Hope did that, she should be held responsible for it.
I could see ABC suing for breach of contract, disregarding her claims against them. That would solve their dilemma, but I don’t see how that solves Maks’. If he were to sue, everything would need to be disclosed. Competing lawsuits?
Yeah, I said the same thing, Heidi – why didn’t we consider that to begin with?
I’m sure there’s something in her DWTS contract that says she can’t divulge certain information about the show, period…doesn’t matter if it’s true or false.
I do think whatever happened behind the scenes should be left at that.
No matter what happens with this issue, I hope that this has been an eye opening experience and a valuable lesson learned for Maks and he partakes on a lighter more fun approach to his teaching.
And as for Hope, well she should have left it alone and moved on. period.
hear hear Violet – false accusations of abuse hurt women all over the world, in all walks of life, who find themselves in truly abusive situations. Women who lie about abuse are in the same low league as the abuser. IMO, of course.
often we hear celebs ask their Pros to be tough – “don’t take it easy on me, I want to learn, I want to excel, I need a tough coach” And no …. I’m not going the “she asked for it” route, was just curious if Hope and Maks had had that conversation early in their training?
Maks was out of line, no doubt about it, and the most telling part of the group rehearsal video was how shocked and dismayed everyone else in the room was! There was no excuse for that … none. Even if the woman pushed every nerve wracking irritating exasperating rage inducing button you own (which it sounds like Hope was quite good at, and not just with Maks). However, like someone her has already stated …. something about Hope’s story just doesn’t pass the smell test.
Well it is a wait and see now. You would think, or I would think I should say, that the attorneys and publishing company asked to see her contract before this section on DWTS was released in her book but who knows. The Huffington Post article doesn’t make me think much at this point only because there wasn’t an official rep from ABC going on the record saying anything just a Maks supporter. Personally, the bottom line for me is did Maks hit this woman in the face or not?
I think if that part of her memoir is true, the slap, the meeting afterwards with ABC/BBC offering to fire Maks and get Hope a new partner and the legal document she alleges they created after the violence to legally cover themselves, then I don’t expect to hear a word from ABC on that particular matter or any really because they already did what they needed to do and should have done to protect themselves when it happened. Maks on the other hand is on his own if it’s true because ABC isn’t going to protect him if he did indeed strike her in the face. They would only protect themselves and it looks like they did that. Again, this all assuming that he did hit her in the face. I’ve heard Maks deny it but not ABC. Time will tell I suppose.
@Katarina (#175) – This ‘close to-the-show source’ did say Hope did not tell the truth in the book in addition to the potential breach of contract. Now, assuming this source is legit, it wasn’t specified what thing(s) exactly Hope wasn’t truthful about, but if the physical abuse allegation was among them, and that can be substantiated, it’ll help Maks personally as well as the show. And frankly, that’s in its best interest as well. Getting her on breach of contract is essentially moot if the show is seen as retaining an abusive employee for ratings purposes.
@ Sandy (#177): This story has weight and legs, so it will likely persist until more thoroughly addressed/settled by the involved parties.
Linde (178): “Maks was out of line, no doubt about it, and the most telling part of the group rehearsal video was how shocked and dismayed everyone else in the room was!”
By no means excusing Maks for whipping Hope around in the Paso rehearsal for all the world to see. However, the seeming reactions were cuts/edits and thus perhaps not the most accurate gage without having more video/sound to context or those present to confirm. I mention this now mostly because it is curious that Hope didn’t note cited editing when it was damning to Maks, but did blame that which was damning to her own character (i.e. “F them). Interesting inconsistency.
To Ashley (179): Assuming Hope’s abuse allegations have some truth to them, I thought DWTS might take the she refused a new partner route. The release might protect them legally, but retaining an abusive employee would likely be catastrophic to the livelihood of the show.
good points, wynn. If TPTB orchestrate those packages, as we all know they do, then it’s not a far stretch to think they also orchestrated “reactions” to an event. I guess I didn’t think that through.
I still find it hard to believe, though, that DWTS would air that footage if there was any truth to the abuse allegations. why would they compromise themselves and the show in such a public way? why would they ask Maks back? I’m with Heidi – TPTB could give a rat’s a$$ about any of these Pros or Celebs, whether they win or lose, which Pro gets asked back; they only care about ratings and this would definitely be a ratings killer.
does anyone know if they took legal action against Edyta for breach of contract when she left and then was talking about DWTS in her blog, giving “insider” info on the not so up and up goings on behind the scenes?
Hi Wynn (183),
That’s exactly why I think they gave her the option, to say well we offered to fire him and told her we don’t condone violence but she negated our offer etc. And that they were in the middle of the broadcast they had covered themselves legally but continued to keep/use Maks for the ratings he brings but put him on notice for the future and just get that season over with.
I don’t know about retaining Maks would be catastrophic to the show but I’ve only been watching since season 9 so I don’t know. I know he’s popular but I didn’t think he was the Joe Paterno of DWTS, if that makes sense, where if Maks goes the show goes. But I could be wrong. What I really have a hard time wrapping my head around is this constant vibe from his fans of he’s tough but not abusive mentality. You know the, he shoved her but she wouldn’t do what he said, or he didn’t hit her but if he did he didn’t mean to. Disturbing. The line of acceptable behavior in society keeps getting pushed and pushed, doesn’t it?
I just want to know if Maks hit her in the face. That’s it. If ABC stays silent on that one note, then that answers it for me because they won’t be backing up Maks’ denial of that particular incident.
Hi again, Ashley
. Great comments as usual.
I don’t think that losing any pro would be detrimental to the show. But I do think that if it is proven true that Maks did indeed assault Hope and was not immediately removed from the show, that wouldn’t go over with their main audience very well.
I don’t remember if Hope wrote that they actually offered to fire Maks or just give her a new partner and she assumed he’d be fired if she accepted. Either way, that strikes me as odd. Given the liability alone (let alone morality), business protocol does not leave it up to the accosted to decide in such situations. Then again, this is DWTS, so if they thought they could smooth it over and salvage a popular cast member, who knows…that claim seems very suspect to me.
Hello again Wynn:)
Indeed, I went back and read the DWTS pages in her book again and she says they told her they wouldn’t stand for violence and they could get her a new partner and Maks would be off the show. You’re right, I interpreted off the show as being fired when it may have been off for that season.
I wouldn’t put it past them to try and salvage Maks in that incident if as his fans could interpret that the alleged “slap” was not intentional, he’s just passionate….you know the routine and keep the ratings. Which of course if there was footage and now it’s gone, that would be suspect. Oy, this is getting all to conspiracy theory for me but I was trying to boil it down to the basics for myself which was did he hit her in the face. Maybe we’ll never know.
Thanks so much for your insight, I like your style.
Linde, I wondered that as well. If Maks actually hit her like she says, then why on earth would ABC even air what they did in the group rehearsal. Didn’t they think they would leave themselves open to this sort of thing?? Because it’s the airing of that footage that puts Maks in the position of having most people believe Hope. They added credibility to her by airing what they did.
As for keeping Maks on the show – he had been on for how many seasons with no real complaints that we know of?? And quite a few of his partners love him. So…I dunno. He has a pattern of being an ass, but not really an abusive ass.
I don’t like Hope Solo and I find her incredibly annoying and I doubt a lot of what she said was true. That being said, I think Maks should have been fired for the actions WE SAW ON THE AIR during the team challenge. Everyone in that room was incredibly uncomfortable and upset. My husband was watching that episode with me and he got so angry watching it (and watching that nothing was being done about his behavior) that he got up and walked out of the room and he’s only watched a handful of shows after that (he used to watch a lot more). If people doubt Maks now he only has himself to blame. And the show is to blame for their current reputation loss because they have let him get away with more and more inapproriate behavior each year because they know he’s popular and are afraid of fan reaction if they axed him or disciplined him.
exactly PH (#188). I can’t imagine the legal eagles on the DWTS team allowing such evidence to be known, much less aired, if they had any inkling that Maks was physically abusive with his partners. Any of his partners.
And I cannot believe they would risk this show going down in flames straight to hell because of ONE person, even a popular person like Maks. Harboring an abuser of women – hell, pairing him up with women and insisting he spend long hours under arduous circumstances with them in order to fill their greedy pockets – that’s the kind of thing that would make their core audience (and the not so core ones as well) turn away in disgust. I can’t see it happening, just to smooth things over about Maks.
Dare I say – even losing Derek is not going to kill this show. It will just give someone else an opportunity to shine. Why would TPTB think any differently about Maks, especially if these allegations were true.
By the same token, I can’t disagree with many here that it’s hard to understand why the book publisher did not vet this part of the book before going to press. Is there a memo, or a document? How much proof do you need to make these allegations when ABC aired that group tape?
something is up with all this mess – maybe there’s another shoe to be dropped ?
Ya know, following on from my earlier thought and something Nancy said clicked in my brain…what if DWTS has no choice but to let Maks go due to the harm to their reputation? Even if it’s not true, it will be hard to refute because of what they DID show on the air. And is there a way for an attorney to watch several hundred hours of rehearsal footage and be able to tell if something is missing? After all, you can’t prove that something didn’t happen, only that something did. You can’t prove a negative.
Heidi, couldn’t the lawyers just subpoena the unedited footage of that season to see if something did happen? Or do shows not keep that stuff?
Exactly, PH, I really don’t think the producers would show the group dance rehearsal if something worse happened besides what they aired. It doesn’t make sense.
If it doesn’t all blow over by the middle of this season, I think Maks will take a break, either because he wants the break or TPTB suggest it. I don’t think they will actually “fire” him, as in pack your bags and don’t come back.
Also, I don’t think Hope is actually demanding any action be taken, so I still think it could all blow over.
I would have thought that Hope would have to prove it happened, rather than Maks having to disprove it. Then again, I guess she only has to do that if sued. Short of that, all that’s out there is her claim and the group rehearsal video.
As others have said, why on Earth (or any planet for that matter) would TPTB invite him back last season if this happened during the prior one? Seems like cutting him loose after Hope’s season would have been the next action even if she agreed to finish the season with him.
I haven’t seen the chapter and have no intention of buying the book. Did she say when during the season it supposedly occurred and that she had proof (i.e., a copy of the memo)?
Wasn’t Maks almost not back last season?
A lot of dwts contestants have written books that include their time on the show. Brooke wrote about it. I just read Melissa’s book. Why is Hope breaching the contract?
I’ll believe the lawsuit if Maks or the show make a statement. It’s just hearsay until then.
I remember Mike Catherwood doing an interview after he was voted off. He said producers asked he & Lacey to basically “show interest in each other” wink wink
He had a GF and she had a BF. Now if contracts have a clause in them to not talk about the “behind the scenes” so-to-speak of the show….why not penalize him? Bristol spoke/wrote about a confrontation/”heated exchange” between Mark and dwts ‘staff” when they talked negatively about her. Is it because these are not as “inflammatory”?
Also, off topic but…who the heck is this person LOL:
I don’t get the argument that the show would never have aired his behavior during the team challenge if there were worse behavior. I think they aired the team challenge behavior because they had to, there were so many witnesses to what happened it couldn’t be contained. Many people saw what happened and many people were upset. If they didn’t air it it would have gotten out there anyway with so many digusted witnesses, and the rumor might have been even worse than the truth.
I don’t know if there is any worse behavior, I just don’t think that’s an adequate rationale for why there couldn’t be.
Another argument I hear is that she wouldn’t have been friendly with Maks if any of this had happened. That makes a lot of sense to people like us who would never put up with such treatment. But the psychology of people who do put up with such treatment and still have some good feelings for people who treated them badly is not easy to understand. My mother was almost killed by my stepfather, he stalked and harrassed her for years. She’s now back together with him because she still loves him. Does it make any sense? God no. Does that mean he didn’t really almost kill her? No.
Again, I don’t like Hope and I hate that someone like her is now the face of an abuse accuser, because every time you have someone questionable like that it hurts real abuse victims who are dismissed out of hand. I just don’t agree with some of the rationalizationsI’ve heard for why her allegations couldn’t possibly be true.
Yeah, but Hope and Maks relationship wasn’t a marriage. It was just a dance partnership. It’s not the same dynamic. Hope could have easily walked away, she didn’t really have any emotional investment in the relationship.
It’s like if an employee, or boss, was treating you badly, but instead of quitting or reporting the behavior, you stayed on.
Who else watched all of season 13? After week 7 incident-whatever-Maks made an apology (rehearsal for week 8) on film to very attentive HOPE. He said he took 100% responsibility for being overly rough. She said some significant things: …(sounded like) I have insecurities…I’m just a girl….he reached out to her and said “I’ll be trying a gentler approach”. Some where she mentioned her (rt) shoulder surgery and the pain in it. He brought her to his family at a luscious dinner with candles and wine. She appeared warm and friendly. They danced all of week 8 (2 dances), all of week 9 (3 dances), but eliminated next night. They had not been touching week 7, but friendly encouraging affection weeks 8 & 9 and for results show. Things seemed to go well. At their elimination he said he wished “I could have been better for you”. Not bad for Alpha male to Alpha FEMALE. I don’t know them, only about them. I love to watch Maks dance.
There was an article in the Huffington Post saying Maks might sue Hope! LOL
I think unless if Maks loses his job over this or his business suffers, there is not much he can do as far as suing her.
He has to prove harm.
Nancy, I don’t think any of the pros or celebs would have said anything about the team rehearsal. They are probably under contract so they couldn’t say anything even if they wanted to.
Perhaps the producers showed it because it was their idea of “good TV”. If more than that happened, I think they would have “sacrificed” the good TV and stayed away from the “rough” behaviour angle altogether. Why draw any attention to it at all if there was something “worse” that happened??? Or why not bite the bullet for the sake of “great” TV and show the slap if it did take place? I’m not condoning any of this behaviour, I’m just trying to figure it out.
I can’t stand Hope Solo. I will not take the time to write about all her failures and short comings as a decent human being———-Hope is mentally ill just like her Father and I hope she gets the therapy she so deperately needs before she completely wrecks her life!
Diana, her father passed so he isn’t anything mentally ill, or anything else for that matter.
Last night on her Chelsea Lately interview, Hope tried to avoid the issue, but Chelsea wouldn’t let it be. Hope didn’t verbally recount the story, but she did demonstrate and it seemed completely plausible to me.
That’s what I mean, Mo – yes, they could subpoena unedited footage, but if the particular incident isn’t there, that’s not necessarily indicative that it never happened. You can’t prove a negative. If Maks was suing, they would have to piece all that back together and I don’t know if they would want to go through the time and effort (and expense) over something that may still be in limbo when they get done. May be better to let the issue die.
The minute you started slinging insults, Julie, you practically guaranteed you’d get deleted – had you just offered up your own opinion WITHOUT taking shots at anyone with a different opinion, I would have let it be. Learn the difference between politely disagreeing and coming in guns blazing, practically BEGGING to be deleted.
Dance really is a contact SPORT. There are penalties for unnecessary roughness, but take the penalty and continue the game. Every season there are bumps and bangs to ribs, ankles, shoulders, feet, necks even the noggin. I am amazed how beat up dancers are. When I was a child my Chiropractor father had an ex-dancer male patient with chronic back problems because of a “throw” gone wrong. I love Jerry Rice’s humor that puts crap in its place w/o denying it and his T/Outs. I appreciate PH’s logical analytical sorting of FACTS, and Court’s and Vogue’s “salt and light” takes that level perspectives. If Hope had a glimmer of “we handled it, WE GOT OVER IT-whatever “it” was, would that be healing? sell her book? She APPEARED TO ‘GET OVER IT’ for the rest of the season and beyond, after Maks’ apology and amends. ” That’s where the knife goes in.” IMHO
You know what blows my mind?….that people comment without reading the other comments! I love reading the comments…good or bad. I must be weird.
It blows our minds, too, Sherry
Especially when someone says something so matter-of-factly, as if they’re “schooling” us, when in reality the point they’re trying to make has already been discussed at-length in the previous comments. Oh well – glad you enjoy reading all of the comments!
Hope Solo and her publishers have played this very smart. Her stories about Maks and DWTS get her book more publicity and hopefully increased sales. But her stories are just the sort of thing that it’s almost impossible legally to prove or disprove. So people believe as they choose to believe. If ABC and/or Maks were to sue, they would have the burden of proof to show that the incident did not happen – so they must prove a negative in order to prevail in a lawsuit. They can’t just say “see, there’s no footage of this happening” to prove that it didn’t happen. It’s virtually impossible to prove that what she alleges didn’t happen. Hope’s publishers and their lawyers know that. Just because the stories appear in print is not sufficient to establish veracity – people have published stories in books that have been proved subsequently to be patently untrue (Kitty Kelley’s numerous celebrity biographis come to mind). The lawyers for the publishers just need to know they’re in that grey area of defamation/libel law in order to take the risk of including the story. The unfortunate irony is that even if ABC/Maks decide to sue, people will still believe whatever they want to believe. I remember before Maks’ and Hope’s season started, there were blogposts (including on this site) from people who claimed to know Hope who savaged both her character and personality. I remember thinking then that these people were going too far and have to have an agenda. But now I wonder if they might not have been the ones telling the truth – they might have been the canary in the mineshaft. IMO, the judges on DWTS mistreated Hope, and I always thought that with Hope’s personality, she would be hell bent on getting back at the show. She may have just done so.
Heh. I Hope’s MIND the judges mistreated her. I though they were far too kind.
Heidi, true, Hope really couldn’t dance. It’s like she couldn’t even do a “monkey see, monkey do”. But I do think the judges could have been kinder to her on camera, no matter what they thought of her dancing. But maybe we don’t know the whole story behind their choice of words to her. The more I see of her behavior (e.g., to Brandi Chastain at the Olympics and on Morning Joe), the more I wonder if she might not have brought some of it on herself.
Hmm, I found it interesting that the infamous footage of Team Paso rehersal suddenly got label “
Please disregard my previous post. Thanks.
Well, I found it interesting that the infamous footage of Team Paso rehearsal suddenly got label “PRIVATE”. Correct me if I’m wrong.
PH (#205) – You are absolutely correct that you can’t prove a negative… normally..
But if I understand it right (and for me, that’s a really big if), a lack of evidence that some event occurred can be used in court – what do that call it with lawsuits, “A preponderance of the evidence”? If that preponderance of evidence shows that “event X” didn’t happen, then…
But Sally, we’re talking a civil suit. With the actual evidence of Maks’ “other” behavior out there for all to see, the absence of additional footage is not going to help him. He really can’t prove it didn’t happen. And I think when they say “preponderance of evidence” it’s used in the reverse of what you’re saying. That is – there is a ton of evidence showing that something happened. I don’t think you can apply it to it NOT being there. Hours and hours of video footages of them getting along can’t be used to say that he never hit her because you would have to prove that there was no time when they were together that isn’t on tape. I don’t know what kind of records they keep, but I think it’s likely impossible to make that argument. All they can say is “no one witnessed it happening and it’s not on tape” – but that doesn’t prove that it didn’t happen. And the “preponderance of evidence” in this case is, unfortunately, not is Maks’ favor.
I think it depends on the particulars of any lawsuit that’s filed. For instance, if Maks is thinking about some sort of “I didn’t treat he roughly” lawsuit, then I’m with you – he’s ovbiously going to lose that one. But a suit specifically about the face slap? I think that if the video doesn’t exist, then someone would have a hard time showing it did…. I guess it all goes to how a lawyer would “weasel-word” a lawsuit.
They don’t have to show that it did concretely because it would be a civil, not criminal suit. There is no way Maks wins…all hope’s ppl need to do is show what was aired on TV. Maks has to prove she’s lying…with what was shown on tv, I don’t see that happening.
I found the information on California defamation suits on this website kind of interesting. I agree with Sally that it will probably depend on the lawyers. And as many have said, it may not be worth pursuing anyhow.
http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/california-defamation-law
Conrad Green can easily clear this up. Hope says she met with him after the brutal hand slap. Conrad can either defend the reputation of the show and the character of the dancers under his watch or Miss Solos claims are validated by his silence. If she is indeed correct then BBCworldshould be held accountable as an employer who condones violence against women as a cheap form of entertainment . All he has to say is they never met about the incident.
Pali, I SO agree with you. Why wouldn’t Conrad come out in support of his long-time employee? His silence speaks volumes.
Pali…just, NO. Read through a lot of the above comments – silence does not indicate guilt. And if Conrad did indeed meet with Hope and offered Hope a new partner and she declined, then I’d say that would negate any sort of legal action Hope tried to make after the fact. They offered her an out – she opted not to take it. And I’m pretty sure they’d have her sign off on that too – that they offered her an out and she refused it. It would show that they did try to rectify the situation and she waived her opportunity to get out. I have a feeling the legal eagles at ABC did everything in their power to cover their asses legally.
I’m beginning to think that some people don’t even bother to read any of the previous comments and just skip straight ahead to jumping up on their soapboxes. We’ve pretty much debunked the whole “silence = guilt” bullsh*t that some of you are trying to spin. Clearly some of you don’t seem to understand that legal counsel explicitly instructs their clients to STFU until they’ve had a chance to pore through all of the facts and build a solid case. It’s not being “guilty”, it’s being SMART.
I read through all the comments. I don’t believe ABC will do a thing,except hope it all goes away asap. The last thing they need imo is to bring more attention to the illustrious behavior of their star pro who is about to partner with their coveted celeb. Maybe I’m wrong, we’ll see.
Well there is the crux of the matter. Miss Solo did not meet with Green? Of course she did. Offering her an out at week 7 because they just didn’t get along? Are you for real? Coming from one of the toughest women in sport who deals with difficulties all the time? An athlete who is so ir die? This isnt a shrinking vilolet. We all saw the incident,and that at least in part tells us that he is brutal and can’t control his anger. It isIsomething to be demanding and hard, most all the pros are but it quite another thing to inappropriately shove slap etc. The fact is the meeting DID occur for a reason and reasonable people know why. To claim otherwise is fantasyland, because the show has neatly covered its ass. In fact, They probably knew the contents of the book for awhile. Maks may or may not have known and thats why his PR people look so inadequate trying to deal with the fallout.
Pali, I think you’re just confusing yourself at this point – either that or you’re selectively literate, because I’m not saying a meeting didn’t occur. I’m saying it did, and Hope actually talks in the book about how they offered her a different partner after the incident and that she decline. Have you even read the excerpts of the book??? Did you understand them???
Please do not patronize me, there have been people saying she is lying. If she were lying why discuss in her books meeting with Conrad Green among others took place? I’ll explain it because None of you have mentioned the obvious.No employer would need to go to such lengths to cover their ass if they did the right thing in the first place. Any decent employer would have removed that pro and not saddle the celebrity with making such a decision. The fact that we saw the bullying season after season is a testament to their douchbag tactics for ratings. It is just incredible that Hope had to meet the producer to make this animal stop. I distinctly heard her asking him to Stop and he said No before storming out. Of the Paso rehearsal. Is this the example to set?
Regardless if not one other thing happened, and I totally believe it did,this show had had a responsibility to remove him.
“None of you have mentioned the obvious” – No, we’ve discussed it at length, and we’ve done it without you. And quit acting like you’re the voice of reason, waltzing in here to educate us, Pali.
If you hate the show so much, Pali, then go complain to them about it – ’cause this is a fan site, and if you’re just here to bitch & moan about how much you hate the show and the people behind it, then you’re trolling and I’m gonna start deleting you.
I think Pali is trolling too, Court. I don’t like how she’s trying to tell you how to moderate and I don’t like her better than thou soul authority type attitude. Funny how Hope had that same kind of attitude as well.
It’s funny how much Hope Solo’s fans sound just like her, really. Birds of a feather, I suppose. But really, in my opinion she has lost a lot of credibility in her timing, her behavior with Maks following the season, and her prior history at blaming others for her actions. The cognitive dissonance that I have regularly seen from her on the field, in the ballroom, and on the press junket leads me to question the validity of anything she says. I do believe there may be *some* truth that something happened, but that it’s an event that can be interpreted many ways – but as others have said, the best liars dabble in truth. I don’t think Maks is a saint by any means, but until more reliable sources come out and support her claim, my gut tells me that Hope is simply trying to sell books and get attention. Thankfully she will most likely get no further notice from me.
Silence NEVER implies guilt in the entertainment business. That’s just dumb. If you get into denying or discussing every single thing that comes out about you, true or not true, you won’t be doing anything else AND you’ll keep the issue in the forefront of the media – where you don’t want it to me. Ask Mitt Romney about Congressman Akin – betcha he wishes that guy would shut up and go away.
Plus most PR reps would tell you to STFU too – true or not true.