DWTS 15 All-Stars: The Great “Previous Dance Experience” Debate – Helio Castroneves Edition
After a brief hiatus to accomodate all of the hoopla of the revealing of the 13th couple, I’m back with another edition of my series examining the highs and lows of our all-stars’ original seasons. As always, if you’re playing catch-up, check out the previous editions with Kelly Monaco, Emmitt Smith, Drew Lachey, Joey Fatone, & Apolo Ohno
Today I take on season 5 winner, Helio Castroneves.
I picked his Mask-inspired quickstep as Helio’s best dance:
And for his worst dance, I chose he & Julianne’s bizarrely chilly rumba:
First, I feel like I have to get this off of my chest: I do not think Helio was the best dancer on his season, and I actually think he was one of the weaker champions we’ve had, in terms of dance skill. The one big advantage he had, though, was personality - in BUCKETLOADS.
I think that’s ultimately what won him the MBT over Mel B. – while she herself was a big personality, I feel as though he managed to endear himself to viewers a bit more, and generated a stronger chemistry with Julianne than Mel maybe had with Maks. I think his quickstep is a perfect example of how his chemistry with Julianne & his personality carried him through to the end – he was just so FUN. Plus, he seemed to really excel at the ballroom dances, which seems to be an area in which even the best male contestants seem to falter. However, when you take a closer look at his quickstep, you’ll see that he sometimes tends to get so carried away with the character of the dance, that he loses a bit of the technique – a problem similar to Joey’s. And judging from he & Julianne’s rumba, in which he couldn’t really play a character, his weaker technique seemed to stick out like a sore thumb…and his chemistry with Julianne also suffered. To date, I still think it’s one of the strangest, least romantic rumbas we’ve ever seen on the show…and as I recall, the judges seemed kind of horrified by it. I think he & Chelsie are REALLY going to have to work on their chemistry, first and foremost, if they want to stick around – and if they can forge a good chemistry, then I think it’s on Chelsie to strike a balance between making Helio focus on technique, and still giving him the opportunity to be a showman. I do think they’re going to have to make a big splash, though, and they’re going to have to do it soon – because they’re kind of becoming this season’s “forgotten” couple for me: the couple that I always struggle to remember when I’m listing off all of the couples this season, because they haven’t yet made a huge impression on me.
Court’s verdict: I think Helio’s success this season is seriously going to hinge upon whether he’s able to really connect with Chelsie – and if she’s going to be able to choreograph to suit both his technical weaknesses and his strengths as a showman.
What’s your take on Helio? Is he going to struggle this season…or will he & Chelsie surprise us all?








Wow, Courtney, you have been a busy women between this and the wwib. Always love to read your take on things.
I agree that they’re really going to have to bring it from the very start this season to stick around. My preconceived idea is that they won’t be able to generate the chemistry but will be happily surprised if they can.
I think he’ll be the first male champion eliminated. He really relies on personality and was incredibly lucky to win his season. I feel bad for Chelsie that shes never made the finals, but she won’t again I’m afraid.
Another good one in this fine series. It’s easy to agree with your points here, Court, and if I didn’t, the videos would have convinced me.
I loved Helio in his season, unfortunately this season his pairing with Chelsie just seems awkward. Seriously though, at the end of the night her dances are forgettable.
Thank you jess & Faby
I really like Helio as a person, but I worry that he will likely be the first male contestant eliminated this season – being up against so many other dancers that are both personable AND talented dancers is just going to make his technical weaknesses stick out like a sore thumb, I’m afraid
IMO, Helio is going to really have to pimp the Indy Car vote, as well as work hard for Chelsie, since he cannot just rely on a big personality masking poor technique, like he did season 5.
Well, Chelsie’s tweet tonight to Helio was quiet cute:
@helio I found my 1st outfit for DWTS. What do you think? Don’t say no. He replied “haha I’m in trouble”.
The picture was a like futuristic punk look a la the 5th Element.
Here’s hoping they have loads of fun together. I think Chelsie can help him improve his technique quite a bit, fingers crossed. Helio’s foxtrots were quite good too with Julianne and IMO that is one of the better dances Chelsie choreographs.
I think they can do it…. I hope they can anyways
The cutesy tweet and the response got them attention and I expect to see more of those in the coming weeks if they prove effective. I also expect the other couples to use that same tactic.
Except forTy, Chelsie hasn’t had much luck with older celebrity partners respecting her because she’s a young professional, but maybe this partnership will be different.
With the older celebs she has had jake was just a douche and Mr. Bolton just didn’t realize how hard dancing was and how stressfull that and touring would be (and how bad he would be at it). Bless his heart but I don’t even think Derek could have made Mr. Bolton look good.
I agree that Helio might be the first guy out. I never really liked him, he more annoyed me than made me feel like he was fun. Might have been because in season five, there were so, so many others I really liked and could not believe he beat them all. I think that was when I first felt that the pro influenced the vote a good bit.
Anyway, I don’t really care to watch him so I hope he is out pretty soon. Which pains me to say because I just love Chelsie and hope to see her in the finals one day. Just not this season.
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I love Helio. And I think he really deserved won his season.
Just remember he did the best final sprint from week 8, compared to Mel B and Marie. And the best freestyle – which all we know is a crucial dance.
Let’s remember:
Helio last dances from week 8 – Paso-quick-chacha-foxtrot-jive-freestyle-quick
Mel B’s – tango-mambo-V.Waltz-Paso-chacha-free-mambo
Overall, yes, she was a better dancer, but she was on B2. He never. Her freestyle was so apathetic… (blame Maksim). The fact is that she wasn’t beloved by the audience (what was a shame, ’cause I loved her and still. Just don’t like Maksim that much since that season).
If Sabrina wasn’t eliminated, I have my reservations to believe that Mel B could even reach the finals that season. My POV.
Can we just tell which seasons the best dancer won? I have on my mind here seasons 4, 6, 7, 8*, 10, 11, 13*. 50%.
*I think people overstimate Gilles his dances have impact but never captivated me (i like his samba, paso and chacha. other dances, not that much. even the at which became a reference on dwts… I preffer Lil’Kim’s…) and I think JR could dance better if he wasn’t injuried.
I don’t think Sabrina being eliminated was a fluke. The fact that Mel B made it to second place and Sabrina got eliminated is not coincidence. Sabrina got eliminated on the first week that she wasn’t in the top 3 dancers – that tells me that what was keeping her in prior to that was mainly her scores.
I get an off feeling on the Chelsie and Helio pairing currently, but, I’m looking forward to seeing if they will surprise and change me around. No doubt he will work hard just like he did with Julianne. If they can work on their connection and an audience connection, I think they’ll stick around atleast to the half point. “Connection” is key here and if they don’t find it, I agree how he will go out early.
Gonna go ahead and plug your “by the numbers” retrospective which detailed what it took for Sabrina to get eliminated, Heidi…http://www.puredwts.com/2012/07/05/dancing-by-the-numbers-dwts-season-5-retrospective/
Regardless of how Helio danced in the last two weeks, Carlos, I don’t think anyone can win a season based on his/her performance on 2 out of 10 weeks alone. Helio & Julianne built up a fanbase all season long, not just in the last two weeks. And while I agree that their freestyle was the best of the 3 we saw that season, I think that’s kinda like saying he was the smartest kid on the short bus – because the freestyles were pretty lackluster across the board that season. Marie’s was HORRIBLE, Mel’s was a big letdown, and Helio’s was just ok for me – I think that may have been one instance where the win really came down to freestyle, as opposed to the technical skill the couples showed all season…because if it was the latter, I still feel like Mel was a far better technician.
Fantastic analysis, Courtney! I’m in complete agreement. And I’m really concerned about how long Helio will last this season, because I don’t think Chelsie is the right fit for him. I think Chelsie is a great dancer, and a really sweet kid – but so far, her choreography hasn’t impressed me. After all, it was her idea to put Michael Bolton in that goofy dog house…
So, count me as agreeing 100% with Court’s verdict!
Sally, your mention of the Michael Bolton dog house debacle made me wonder if that’s one reason why (in addition to the “Julianne clone” factor) they paired these two. Helio would have made crawling out of the dog house funny and endearing.
Neither Helio nor Chelsie are favorites of mine, but I like them better than at least 3 other couples this season. So I hope they find a way to stick around for at least a while.
@Cidra, I hope like you do – that they can stick around for a while.
I just don’t know…
Courtney,
I just pointed the last couple weeks dances because of the dance skills comparison.
I think Helio was the one who showed the biggest improvement that season even not beating Mel B on dance.
I agree with your points, I just still think that he deserved to win even not being the best dancer that season. For me, he had the perfect balance between dance and entertainment. And I like Mel B, I really do.