SPOILERS!!! DWTS All Stars Week 3 – Who Got the Boot??
Big night tonight….lots of stuff happened. Dances revealed for next week, and two people went home. Who was it??
First, Drew Lachey went home…the Helio went home. And guess who was in the bottom three with them! Sabrina and Louis. Calm that ego down, kids. 
How did the Pure Crew do??
Heidi: Picked Drew and Helio for elimination.
Courtney: Drew and Helio
Vogue: Bristol and Drew.
Vogue? What’s going on, girl – your track record was stellar last season??
Thanks Vogue!
Vogue’s first pick was just wishful thinking!
What do you think of the dances each couple got? Which ones work for which couple??? Kirstie and the Charleston???
LOL Miss! It’s all Bristol’s fault. She’s messing up everything. lollllll
What were Helio and Chelsie going to do this week had they made it through? Broadway?
I keep trying to remember what PH & Court say – this ain’t exactly a dance competition.
But nights like tonight, it more resembles a glittery, spray-tanned cesspool – the turds keep floating to the top. JMO, but as of tonight, we’ve lost 3 who were better dancers than some who remain.
Awww…………. I am DEFINITELY going to miss Helio and Drew!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Neither one, in my own opinion, deserved to go home yet.
That said, who was the guy sitting next to Helio’s girlfriend, when he was announced to go home? He was shown another time in the show, also, but I can’t place him. The camera seemed to focus on him, not his mate, and mother of his daughter……….
So sad about Helio.\
and Sad about the dance picks, Shawn and Derek , the most exiting couple got stuck with the only tradicional balroom dance. Derek a=was not happy. I was hoping for contemporary so bad. Since Helio is gone , they could give Shawn and derek broadway
Awww, I’m going to miss those two. I’ve been voting for Drew and I did so this week. Guess there wasn’t enough. Oh well. Let’s just hope next week will bring about one of the less exciting ones getting the cut.
I think if I looked really closely, I could actually see smoke coming out of Louis’ ears at the end.
After Sabrina confession, talking about Carrie An, and blaming others and her dress for sloppy dance and lack of creativity, I could care less for her. I hope Sabrina, Gilles and Bristol go home in next weeks
Pretty damn sad Palin is still hanging around. I thought for sure that was to reason for the DI. I wish that, at least for an all star season, people would vote for the best dancers. Neither Helio nor Drew deserved to go tonight. Oh boy, Palin and wacko get to dance Rock and Roll. WTF are they going to do, bob their heads up and down? Will their costumes be made to look like flannel? Iom sure B will be great at bobbing her head, 10 10 10.5!
Darn it. Of course that would happen, with my luck. I was hoping broadway would be used sooooo bad. When I saw it on the last I was really excited, and then it was given to Helio and Chelsie, and I said they HAVE to go through. Lesson learned: don’t vote on my cell phone. Every time I vote on it whoever those votes were cast toward goes home. Crazy, unscientific, superstition, I know. But it’s happened 5 times. But if I used my cell phone to vote for Bristol……
Also will miss Drew and Anna. I enjoyed watching them.
2 champions leave before Bristol. Really? *sigh* Was it a real bottom 3?
I tried to post a few minutes ago but got an error. Apologies if this is a double-post.
BTW, what style would Drew/Anna have danced?
Judging by the scores, not only this week but since the season began, Bristol and Kirstie should’ve gone home. I think everyone kind of knew that Joey, Drew, and Helio weren’t going to win with the caliber of dancers this season, but they all went home to early. It drives me insane that Bristol has lasted this long. I was kind of hoping that since her mom has been out of the spotlight that her fans wouldn’t keep voting her through like last time, but I was wrong. Those fans are going to keep her going while more worthy celebs get the boot.
Aww … Was hoping Bristol and Kirstie would be going home tonight. Lol, Bristol has her spot for the finals, wonder who the other two teams will be?
Poor Drew. He was screwed from the beginning. They gave him Anna and the boring dances first. No tango; no paso. Not even an Argentine tango. And I really wanted to see him do that. I’m sad.
Sorry to see Helio go, too. I really wanted to see him do Broadway. I think he would’ve killed it.
Bummed Helio and Chelsie are gone. Trying to be a Positive Polly about the results, like I can get back to having more than 3 hrs of sleep on a voting day.
I kinda of wish TPTB would throw a curve ball like fans can vote one pair back midway through and the judges pick a pair too, but that could blow up in my face, so maybe not.
That was depressing. 1st, my favorite MALE STAR was Eliminated. 2nd, my favorite FEMALE PRO was eliminated. Now, all of my votes are going to Kelly and Val. Does anyone else wonder what Cheryl said to Drew after he was kicked off? I also feel that Chelsie and Anna should’ve warned their partners with “We don’t REALLY win this thing.”
You have to admit that Mark has done a little “sticking it” to Gilles by giving him Bollywood! On SYTYCD it has often been not good for the contestants because it is so different, and every little movement of the fingers means something. I bet Peta is already getting in contact with Nakul Dev to get some pointers.
I was looking forward to Broadway – I hope Laila (#6) above is right and they let Shawn and Derek do it instead of the Mambo.
As for Bristol’s still being there, I’m ready to start listening to conspiracy theories…
Lee- I still don’t know why they had Mambo in the list, we had plenty o Mambos, what about Jazz or even the lambada. Shawn and Derek are perfect for this week and they got stuck with the only really tradicional ballroom dance. Derek can choreo to any style and got stuck with mambo, I don’t think he is happy. I was already imagining contemporary, Shawn can do all sorts of leaps and jumps, turn, that girl in barefoot with Derek choreo would be beyong amazing.
Only a few pros are trained in other stuff, Derek, Mark, Chelsie , Lacey, Julianne but the rest is balroom only. Peta has a lot of ballet training as well. Val and Kelly with contemporary is wast, and I love them, I wish they had bolero, perfect for their chemistry.
I was so hoping to be wrong about Drew AND Helio leaving. If Bristol doesn’t leave after getting the worst of all genres next week……argh. But to be honest, the only ones left who I would be really upset to lose are Shawn, Apolo & Kelly. They are my wish for the finals….but I know it will never happen to get all 3.
I was shocked at the variety in the dances for next week. I expected more swing or lambada, not dances that were in no way related at all to ballroom or latin! I am a SYTYCD watcher so I am excited at some of the possibilities….and then see the train wreck possibilities too.
Here is the list if people can’t remember, though I’m sure the wonderful people here at pureDWTS will make some kind of post or article about it soon…:) The picking was certainly entertaining!
Gilles & Peta – Bollywood….people love watching this genre but I don’t think the style suits Gilles or Peta’s style. It made much more sense for Maria & Derek last season.
Sabrina & Louis – Disco – not my favorite genre but it actually suits these 2, I think they will kill it. And her fans are on alert, so she is definitely safe for next week’s elimination
Shawn & Derek – Mambo – Glad they didn’t get screwed, mambo is doable but MAN what a missed opportunity for Derek to have been super-creative again.
Apolo & Karina – Hip Hop…..SOOO glad Apolo & Karina got something as entertaining as hip hop, I know they can pull off something great.
Kelly & Val – Contemporary……LOVE it! The chemistry they have will be a huge assest and Val can be super creative here. I’m really excited for this one. Would love to have seen Derek do Contemporary too but honestly, not sure if Shawn would be the right type of partner for this genre anyway.
Melissa & Tony – Jitterbug…they should do well here. Just put some more oomph in your steps Melissa and I might like your dancing more!
Emmitt & Cheryl – Bolero ….hmm I don’t know, it could work for them but it won’t be as easy to make it a show-stopper….Cmon, wouldn’t Emmitt doing Broadway or Contemporary have been HILARIOUS? I wouldn’t really want them to have it ans screw up the genres but the thought is funny. I think Bolera
Kirstie & Maks – Charleston…..Now, how bad did Sabrina & Louis manage to look AGAIN here. I kind of….KIND of….get Louis’ point that Rock n Roll would be the worst genre…..but then guys, you have to think about who you are picking for….this is Kirstie and Maks, who could certainly make Rock n Roll a crazy entertaining ride! Why would you give them the total opposite of their personalities (if you were trying to be nice)….And screw Kirstie after they picked a perfect genre for you? Now, Kirstie isn’t my favorite or anything, but man……
Bristol & Mark – Rock n Roll……and train wreck coming, that’s all I have to say
Sad we won’t be seeing Broadway. Chelsie has experience in it from SYTYCD and Helio is made for that kind of entertainment. Wish someone could trade for it over a crappy genre!
Aww well I disagree laila that Kelly & Val can’t make it good, like I said. But I do see your point about Derek doing awesome contemporary with Shawn. Her pointed feet would be beautiful and she could handle the barefoot dancing! I just don’t see their chemistry being right for it, but if they could pick their song, that could help. I hope the pairs can choose their music, it only seems fair after giving them some crazy genres
How exactly does one dance “Rock and Roll”?
Shawn has already learned some mambo (team dance) and Melissa has done Lindy (same family as jitterbug). Wonder if that’s an advantage or disadvantage.
EPmusic – Kelly and Val can bring the chemistry, but contemporary is a lot about technic, without technic is going to look super sloppy and weird like Maks and Erin. Val like Maks is only trained in balroom. I’m sure that Kelly can point her toes but she doesn’t have Shawn training to pull a actual contemporary routine. And Contemporary is not only about hot chemistry, you can do whatever theme you want too as long as you have the technic right.
Eff’ Bristol Palin. Two former champs gone before HER?! WTF
Contemporary should be great for Val and Kelly, given that they have such natural chemistry. Jitterbug will be great for Tony and Melissa too. Other than that, I think a lot of these are going to be epic fails.
I absolutely love sytycd, so im looking forward to this week.
Sabrina & Louis disco – Stamped. killed. Kirstie REALLY helped them out. should be a blast
Gilles & Peta bollywood- these are always show stoppingly entertaining numbers. A part of me believes gilles can let go and embrace the fun, they can pull this off. If he takes himself too seriously it’s gonna be a mess
Kirstie & Maks charleston – LOL why did louis do this to them. This is bound to be funny- which actually may help them.
Melissa & tony jitterbug – This fits melissa, but i think thats going to be a problem. I think she needed something different to push the envelope and make her stand out.
Apollo & karina hip hop – im excited for this one. they both have the body vocabulary and swag to pull off a great hip hop.
Shawn & Derek mambo- ehhh…they should not have much challenge with it, but there were about 5 other styles on the board that i would have rather seen them dance…kind of a waste
emmitt & cheryl bolero – they dont have the correct chemistry for this. i see it ranging anywhere from bad to just completely unmemorable ( val did them no favors)
kelly & val contemporary – this should be interesting. She’s got the acting chops and theyve got the chemistry to really make something special, but it depends on which way they go. If they go with what Mia michaels calls “pedestrian contemporary’ which is all about the natural movement, emotion and storytelling- they will be GOLD. if they go for technique it is going to be awkward to horrible.
Bristol & mark rock n roll -???? complete trainwreck, but not such much that its actually entertaining
I think the new twist should be that the audience votes for who they want eliminated. That would get rid of “certain people”. Just think of everyone’s fanbases voting a someone out. Think the phone lines would crash.
I was also hoping for another twist. After selecting the dances, everyone would have to switch their dance with the one who gave it to them.
So BP & MB would do Bollywood and GM & PM would do Rock & Roll. I was hoping because I would have loved for Derek to get Broadway. Can you imagined what he would have done with that? Mind boggling!
Bristol and Mark aside, why is Rock n’ Roll considered the worst pick? To me, it seems like that would the most “free” style and you could do anything you want as long as you brought the performance?
I thought the issue was to give the pro’s and celebs a challenge…and some did and some didn’t…why didn’t they give Bristol the Charleston…which I think could have finished her off….but no Sabrina wasn’t using that head of hers. I do think that they gave Derek the Mambo intentionally because supposedly it doesn’t have any bells and whistles…but I think people always underestimate what he can do and I bet is will be good. Emmit gets the Bolero…isn’t that a lot like the Paso…if it is…that just plays into his strengths. And, I couldn’t figure out at the end of that was a true bottom two or if Sabrina and Kirstie were just part of the drama and the bottom two were split…or did we see the bottom four so to speak or three….I got lost on that one. I am just frustrated that Bristol is still there, but if you follow politics while on the surface her mom doesn’t appear as popular she still has a huge following and Bristol is on that Sarahnet radio every week and the Tea Party is still strong….we may be stuck with her a long time…be still my heart. I hope I am wrong.
First of all, I’m BUMMED that Shawn and Derek got the mambo. This is such a waste of talent! Broadway would have been perfect for them. I hate disco so it is gonna be hard for me to root for Sabrina next week.
I very sad to see Helio go. He was in my top 3 with Shawn and Apolo, such a joy to watch. I have nothing against her, but Bristol needs to go, I’m pretty sure her dance will be a train-wreck next week.
I think the Bolero is similiar to the Rumba; I think Alec and Natalie did the dance a few seasons ago. I want to say it was more slow and sensual. Don’t know how that would work with Emmitt…
Okay, let me just see if I understand this. Louis and Maks go way back as frineds, Maks gives a kind shout out to Sabrina when she was eliminated the first time, Maks invites Louis and Sabrina to his home this past Sunday to a BBQ and Maks (who I don’t even like) gives Louis and Sabrina a dance he knows they’ll like and will be good for them, Disco.
And how do these two desperado, backstabbers thank him, stick he and Kirstie with a dance they know will be terrible for her? Nice to show your true colors. I played it back and you can hear Louis tell Sabrina, “If we want to help them, pick Charleston, if we want to give them a hard time, give them rock’n'roll”. I’ll never believe these two don’t know what the Charleston is and that Kirstie, in her 60′s won’t be able to keep up with it but could’ve creatively rocked out rock’n'roll which is in this 60′s wild child’s wheel house.
How fitting it would be if Sabrina and Louis get voted off next week. What goes around comes around.
I fell like Louie and Cheryl were the one pros that were actually trying to give other a hard time. Chelsie gave Mambo to Shawn and Derek because she wanted contemporary really bad, most of them were playing nice
When is the wooden and poor me Bristol Palin going home? In my opinion she shouldn’t have even been on this show in the first place let alone be on it yet again. She is causing far too many good people to go home due to her mothers teabagger followers.
Here is another problem with this show, they have Palin back, and not have J.R. Martinez I mean REALLY???????
Ashley, what the hell are you ranting about?? Sabrina & Louis HELPED Kirstie by giving her the Charleston. Rock n Roll is far worse for her, because she’s in her 60s & overweight, and it’s a very athletic dance with a lot of lifts.
I think next week could be fun! Having a wide variety of dances might be entertaining…. Or NOT!
Drew and Helio gone
I am actually very close to walking away from this season (and I haven’t missed an episode since I started watching – S2, E3)
I’ll see how next week goes and that may be it for me…
I am resigned to the fact that Bristol will be on the show to the end…it really should have been Kirstie (whom I enjoy) and Bristol getting the boot. I DVR the show anyway so I can continue to fast forward through Bristol and BBC (Brooke Burke Charvet).
Can someone explain what Rock and Roll is? Isn’t it the Jive…
Who was that last singer they had on…certainly not singing LIVE
@Lisa C and Katy – You are right about this season. Between ABC having 3 employees on this season, along with the casting of Bristol and Kirstie, my calculations are that 5 contestants could be booted before these 5 are even touched this season.
I am afraid we may lose one of the favorites, Apolo and Shawn, and one of those chosen 5 will take their spot instead.
I think the Charleston is perfect for Kirstie as a dance. She pretty much “acts” rather “dances” throughout her performances, and that dance sets the stage for some great “acting.” Maks will have her do a few kicks, and then there will probably be some Keystone Cops interlude, followed by a few more kicks, and then another Keystone Cops interlude, etc.
If the Bolero is like the Paso Doble, then it definitely was a gift to Emmitt since the Paso Doble is one dance that all the football players on this show have managed to do well on. If it’s more like the rumba, however, then I see a train wreck coming, although Cheryl will probably be able to avoid it by dancing around Emmitt in a Easter-colored dress cut to her navel.
As for Bristol and Mark, are we going to be forced to endure another air guitar performance like they did during rock week? Also, Mark in “rock drag” is not a pretty sight.
Being an Apolo and Karina fan, I want to kiss whoever gave them hip hop. That will probably be the crowd-pleasing dance of the night.
Derek always choreographs great numbers so it really didn’t matter which dance he and Shawn got. Their mambo will be a great and entertaining dance, and I have a feeling that once again I will be winded after watching it because it will be jam-packed with choreography.
Melissa and Tony will choreoraph and dance a good and proper but forgettable jitterbug.
I don’t see Peta choreographing a stand-out Bollywood dance. I have yet to be impressed with her choreography. The only dance that she’s done that I thought was fantastic was the jive last season, and I have a strong hunch that Karina was primarily responsible for the wow factor in that iconic dance. However, if Peta gets help from an expert, this could potentially be a good dance. I’m not sure, however, that Gilles can lose his air of desperation to make this dance work. Bollywood dances have always struck me as happy dances.
With respect to disco, I just don’t see Sabrina and Louis pulling this off. I’ve always thought that there needs to be an element of kitsch in this dance for it to be truly entertaining, and they are way too serious to add that element of lightness to the routine. Even if they did, I don’t see it succeeding because of Louis’ personality. He thinks too highly of himself to know how to poke fun at himself.
Sad to see Drew go, but we all saw it coming. Helio’s mistake cost him, but it’s still so wrong that he leaves before Bristol. I was hoping that she would get stuck with the lindy hop, no way could she do that dance.
And I must say, I really enjoyed knowing Sabrina and Louis were in the bottom three. Louis is probably going insane. Maybe next week, we’ll see him explode.
Bristol needs to go. I’ve had enough of her non-dancing non-talent and her artittude. She is ruining the show this season. Also Kirstie needs to go too.
I realized that I forgot to comment about Val’s and Kelly’s dance. I think I probably forgot about them because I don’t know what to think about the pairing. If contemporary dance means “modern dance,” then I just don’t see it working. I do agree, however, with the posters who mentioned that Derek and Shawn would have killed this dance. Derek has the choreographic creativity to handle this type of dance well and Shawn has the physical skills to carry out that creative vision.
@Ashley – Actually in regards to Louis and Sabrina “sticking it” to Kirstie and Maks… if you pay attention to the conversation between Sabrina and Louis… Louis actually tells Sabrina: “If you want to help them Charleston if you want to give them a hard time Rock and Roll.”
Sabrina gives the look of a cute little puppy dog going “ya ya ya ya ya” and was excited to give Kirstie the Charleston while Louis says, “aww that’s sweet”.
So in all honesty, between the Charleston and Rock N Roll… I would agree with @DWTS Fan in that Sabrina did help Kirstie with the choices that were left.
Bristol and Mark will do a lot of head bobbing, Gibroni, and probably bring out the air guitars.
Y’all know that the idea was not to give the couples a style they could ace, right? Melissa giving Apolo hip hop notwithstanding. *LOL* And as for Derek and Shawn getting the mambo, it was really a great choice out of all of them for competition purposes. Wee, perky, firecracker Shawn doing a sexy mambo? It’s not going to be easy for Derek to make it work, even though I have no doubt that he will. Maybe he’ll take it in a fun direction. And of the two remaining dances, Rock ‘n’ Roll and Charleston, I really think Kirstie and Maks got the better choice.
While I was really sad to see Anna and Drew, and Chelsie and Helio leave, I think tonight’s results show was a ton o’ fun except for the eliminations. It zoomed past for me and you know what else? I’m actually really looking forward to next week! It should be fun and train-wrecky in all the best of ways.
*tossing glitter and sparkles*
Oh! Someone on Twitter last night said that the Bolero was sort of like a slower rumba… SLOWER??? Yeah… Emmitt might be a wee bit screwed.
I’m very sad to see Drew and Helio go
They were not my favorites, but I was enjoying both of them and wish it had been Bristol or Kirstie instead. Or even Emmitt or Gilles.
I’m excited for next week. I like that it will give a fresh feel to the ballroom, and that every single couple has a different style so we get a great variety. I don’t know what many of them are though, so I don’t know how to know if they’re good or not! And I wonder how the judges will judge them. It could play out so many different ways.
I was happy to see most of the couples being nice to each other.
So beyond thrilled about Apolo getting hip hop, and Karina was too cute when they were given that.
Melissa having jitterbug I think should be good for her, because it is similar to lindy hop, right? Though someone said upthread it might feel like “same old same old” from her, and I can see that POV too. So I hope they find a way to really make it shine.
I’m not sure what Bolero is, but if it is a sensual dance like has been tossed around it could be awkward for Emmitt and Cheryl.
I’m not very familiar with Mambo, either. I know we’ve seen it a couple times, but I don’t remember it at all. However, I’m sure Derek will come up with something great.
Charleston is one I enjoyed when it was danced in season 9, but I’m not sure what Kirstie and Maks will do with it?
I don’t know anything about what could be classified as contemporary or rock and roll, or how it will play out for those couples. It seems like those could have the most broad spectrum though, if that makes sense.
I think Sabrina could be good at disco. It’s cheesy, if I’m thinking along the right lines, and Sabrina is cheesy and bubbly. I can see it working.
Bollywood I don’t like. I don’t know how Peta and Gilles will work that, but I do think that his slimy desperate act this season will not go well with it.
I don’t know if I’ve left any out. I would have like to see Helio dance Broadway, I think he would have been great at that
I hope we get an article about each type of dance and what to expect from Courtney’s perspective, because I always enjoy her articles and trust her knowledge and judgement.
Yeah, the best way I can describe bolero is that it’s a slower rumba – but it has the rise & fall of waltz. It’s actually quite pretty when done correctly – I love watching the bf dance it
With the way Courtney described the Bolero, I do not see how Emmitt’s and Cheryl’s dance will be anything other than a train wreck, although it will not be scored as such by the judges.
Next week looks like it’s going to be a night of iconic dances,train wrecks, and Tony and Melissa’s jitterbug.
On several websites I have seen reference for a vote for the worst website where people can vote and that this is where Bristol is getting her staying power. How does it work; if it actually exists. I tried to google it and I still couldn’t make sense of it.
I think Apolo,Melissa,Kelly and Sabrina will shine; Kirstie will be hilarious and entertaining, Bristol will be in the bottom again and Gilles, Shawn and Emmitt will struggle and be in the middle of the pack.
My favorites to go to the finals are Kelly, Apolo and Shawn. The women rule this season.
Oh boy…here I go again with the VFTW spiel
Here’s all you need to know about VFTW:
*They’re a website that just encourages people to vote for the worst contestants on reality competition shows. You can’t actually vote on their website, but they do provide info on HOW to vote and where to go/what time to do it.
*VFTW likes to claim they’re more powerful than they really are, and if they think they can plausibly take credit for someone sticking around on a show, they will. They did it in season 11 with Bristol (even though they didn’t even start actively encouraging people to vote for her until mid-season), and they’re doing it again this season.
*The average voters will always far outnumber these fringe voters following the direction of VFTW – if Bristol’s sticking around, it’s because a decent hunk of the regular viewing audience (or a smaller hunk of very devoted voters) is voting for her, NOT because VFTW is promoting her.
I really don’t want to talk about VFTW anymore, but I almost feel like I need to do a post on it to put the matter to rest once and for all…like I did for DialIdol. Ugh.
Question since I didn’t dvr last night. Did they call an actual bottom 3? Drew, Helio, and Sabrina or was she just in jepoardy?
If Derek and Shawn were given contemporary or other creative style of dance, his choreo would’ve indeed “killed it” but the point is to hinder your opponents, not help them. He’ll do wonders regardless but why hand it to him on a silver platter? That was the reason behind letting the couples choose for each other instead of, say, picking their dances out of a hat like they do for the insta-dance. On another, more unpleasant note… I don’t think that many more fans are watching the show for Bristol, it’s just that they are super power voting(gaming the system, IMO) and so it appears like alot.
C, maybe
@Courtney – So then I would assume that the Bolero is NO lifts?
I don’t get why people think the charleston is a better dance for Kirstie than rock n roll. Kirstie could barely handle the jive, and now she’s going to have to do a charleston? Rock n roll seems much more in Kirstie’s wheelhouse, and not too much different than the ‘Moves Like Jagger’ or ‘American Woman’ that she’s danced to previously. She’s going to have to do a lot of acting and Maks is going to have to choreograph some breaks for her, so that she can manage the endurance element of performing a charleston. Good luck to her. I couldn’t do a charleston at age 50, so I don’t know how Kirstie is going to manage it at age 63. But, she did sign on for a 2nd season and knowing it was an all-stars season, so she has to lump it.
@Sandy, Heidi posted on PDH that lifts are allowed next week!! I’m a little excited about that, can you tell?
@Leigh – It was an actual bottom 3. The way Tom phrased it, he made it clear that Drew was at the bottom, and Helio & Sabrina comprised the 2nd to last & 3rd to last combined totals, respectively. I hope no one tries to start a semantics debate like we had last week, where some people were swearing up and down that Helio wasn’t actually in the bottom 2 and was just “in jeopardy” because of the way Tom worded it. IT’S BEEN REAL BOTTOM 2 ALL SEASON, KIDS. Denial is not just a river in Egypt…Sabrina was in the bottom 3.
@Sandy – That’s a good question. Heidi tells me that Derek has already said in an interview that he & Shawn are allowed to do lifts in their mambo – and I can’t imagine they would allow some couples to do lifts and not others, especially since some of the styles this week (namely contemporary, disco, & rock ‘n’ roll) seem to rely heavily on lifts. So I’m tentatively saying that everyone will be allowed to do lifts – however, that doesn’t mean the judges can’t still call a couple out for a lift that doesn’t feel like it fits in the routine, choreographically. I think bolero is one dance that doesn’t really neccesitate lifts – but that doesn’t mean Cheryl won’t throw some in. Guess we’ll see.
Thanks Courtney
Next week sounds like fun, I can hardly wait. Kudos to DWTS for changing things up…. In a good way! WOOHOO!
People don’t have to watch the show to vote. I think one contestant has tapped into some issues that activate a fairly big percentage of our population. I think it was pretty calculating of her handlers to include the shooting range. I think the religious right might also have people who might feel like they’re supporting some of their causes by picking up the phone and dialing a few times. So I’ve come to accept that some who’d I’d rather stay longer will go home sooner and while it makes me sad, I’m still going to watch and enjoy and vote for my favorites. I wish the judges would take their half more seriously and separate the dancers truly by their dance and performance ability. But I think even with quite a bigger spread some of the contestants will have the ability to overcome that more so than others(BP, Emmitt, Kirstie). I do worry they’re taking too big of a risk with Shawn and Apolo, scoring them by much tougher standards, expecting more from them, counting on fan base support.
I will be excited to see what everyone will bring next week. I had a good idea that Drew and Helio would be leaving. I loved Helio his season and even though I knew he would not make it to the end I thought he might give us a few more weeks of entertainment because for me he brought that. I thought Bristol and Mark should have gone with Kirstie and Max next. I will say that Kirstie and Max do their best at providing us with entertainment and I know she has a huge fan base as well so understand them staying.
For me I just don’t see dancing or entertainment with Bristol and her attitude is horrible. Everyone else who had the piece on show night was all about what they were going to do to entertain us, but hers was all about being mad at Mark. We never did see anything about what they were going to give us. I think the show was wrong for even showing that part. I know she is staying because of all her mom’s friends and having the tea party behind her. Like many of you I just think she will sail through week after week. Who knows she may even win the whole thing. Everyone else seemed so nervous about leaving, but I didn’t see any nervousness at all with her. Who knows, but I will just FF them. I am done with wasting my thoughts of why she is even there. I just know she will be.
What will be interesting is not only do we have all these new dance styles, but we will have Paula. I wonder how her juding will be compared to the other ones. I think (not sure) that Len is a ballroom judge only, but not sure about CA and Bruno. Does anyone know?
Courtney, I note some people here commenting about Kirstie’s big fan base. Weren’t she and Maks called in jeopardy with Drew in the 1st half of the show? Does that mean that Kirstie had the 3rd or 4th lowest scoring total, or do you think the show was just using her and Sabrina for added suspense? If she had the 3rd or 4th lowest scores, why are people assuming that Kirstie has this deep fan base? And even if she has a decent fan base, Bristol is outscoring her, since she wasn’t in jeopardy last night. I’d appreciate your (and anyone else’s) thoughts on this.
Thanks Courtney! I was soooo kicking myself for not taping because I so wanted to rewind to see Louis face as well.
Thank you Courtney for the explanation. It just did not make sense that voting on another website would somehow translate to DWTS getting the votes.
Speaking of voting has anyone tried to vote via Facebook? Is it any easier or a hassle. I have also seen people complaining about voting by phone and getting messages that the lines are closed for their time zone when it shouldn’t be.
I am with you Gail; Bristol will be around longer than she should be for whatever reason and I am resigned to it. Life is too short to worry about it. But I really hoe she is gone sooner than later.
I personally think it would be funny to make a montage of how may times Sabrina’s elemination is mentioned and Gilles “I am so awesome/I have to win” comments. We could probably cover a whole hour dedicated to those two.
Sandra77, “in jeopardy” just means they’re going to make us wait before they reveal a couples’ fate. They may be in the bottom 2, it may just be a ruse in order to create suspense. In Kirstie’s case, I think she was just one of the couples picked to be “in jeopardy” in order to drag out the actual elimination. She was told she was safe before they actually revealed who was in the bottom – therefore, you can’t assume that she was in the bottom 4, 5, etc. The only conclusion we can draw is that she was not in the bottom 3. I personally still think she’s getting a decent number of votes – likely more than Bristol.
Regarding Kirstie & the Charleston – I got to see the list of music earlier, and based on the song Kirstie got (vs. the song Bristol got), I think she’s actually going to be much better off with the Charleston than she would have with rock ‘n’ roll.
And just a general observation on the music: I think TPTB may have tried to mitigate the shock & stress of the pros having to learn a new dance by giving them easy songs to choreograph to – I would say all of the songs for next week are pretty textbook examples of what music for each of the respective styles should sound like. There aren’t any curveballs – no fodder for another “Psycho tango” or “Boom Boom Pow” foxtrot. The music is appropriate for each style.
Glad to see the dance categories expanded this year. Who knows what drives the voting, but has Anna T lost her touch? Peta M seems to be the new Cheryl, although I think Cheryl is making a nice comeback from some weaker seasons. Too much to expect Mel B, Nicole S or Jennifer G for this all-star season, but I wish DWTS could have added the likes of Mario Lopez, Joey Lawrence, Natalie Coughlin, some other strong dancers instead of Pam, Kirstie, Joey-all great people, just not all-star level.
Courtney, thanks for your quick response. I thought Kirstie was in bottom, but it seems we can’t be sure. Good to hear that at least she got a good song for the Charleston. It’s not that I’m that much of a Kirstie fan, but she is the only person on this season that’s ‘representing’ for my age group, so I have a little bit of a soft spot there. Now that the number of couples is dwindling, maybe I’ll have to start throwing her some votes (instead of assuming she and Maks will be safe) – I’ll have to start splitting votes between the Chmerkovskiy boys (I like Val and Kelly this season).
Albert, the problem is that DWTS did its job in helping to expand the careers of the people you mentioned in your comment, so they don’t have time (and for some, the interest) to do DWTS again! And I’m sure for some, once around was enough.
Courtney,
So happy to hear that TPTB didn’t mess with the music. Now, I’m looking forward to what could be a great show.
Also wanted to say, having 4 judges could definitely help to ease out the weaker performer. Fingers crossed.. Maybe they can do it two weeks in a row-LOL
I would have liked to see Shawn and Derek dance something else too, and Shawn has already done the mambo a couple years ago with Mark for a team challenge. I am looking forward to see Apolo and Karina do hip hop–should be fun!
I think next week will be fun, Derek will do a great job, as always, so style will not be as important to him and Shawn; who decided that Val was not trained in other styles? He is from a younger generation and most of the younger dancers get different training, contemporary and hip-hop being at the top of the list. As for Bollywood, I am sure Peta will enlist help, she is smart to know she needs it.
I am actually excited to see something different.
I dunno, I don’t think that giving Derek and dance he’s already done at least once is “hindering” him at all. Since lifts and tricks are allowed, I think it will end up being very good. Shawn’s already done Mambo too. I think Derek is disappointed because he wanted to do something he hasn’t actually done on the show before – which makes him a bit different than the rest of the pros, I imagine.
I think it’s a shame because I think of what he could have done with Broadway, or contemporary, hip hop or even bollywood….kind of a waste. Not from a competition stand point but from a choreography stand point. He’s never better than when he’s challenged. I don’t know if Mambo interests him.
:::sigh::: When Tom says “you’re in jeopardy” it doesn’t mean you’re in the bottom two or three. When Tom says “You’re in the bottom two” you’re in the bottom two. That’s two weeks in a row we’ve had to explain this to you, Sandra – I don’t get why it’s so hard to understand. LISTEN to what Tom says!! They make a pretty clear distinction on the show. If they don’t say “bottom two” then you don’t actually KNOW where she ended up.
Really getting tired of having this same exact conversation every single week.
It’s been mentioned several times here that adding another judge tends to lessen the percentages between the couples since the are more total points given out, which can make it harder to get rid of a sub par dancer. I think Paula may be a “generous” judge, & I have a feeling that we may see the “9″ paddle a lot from her.
Princess Heidi, I was actually trying to get opinions re fan bases and their voting. I noted that they didn’t put Bristol in jeopardy, though it would have been mega-suspenseful if they had and nobody would have been shocked by it. So I wondered if people thought that meant that Bristol was actually getting more votes than Kirstie so that the show didn’t even bother with the ruse of putting Bristol in jeopardy. It’s speculation, I know, but I was interested in opinions on how low people thought Kirstie had fallen in overall scoring.
They HAVE to put SOMEONE in jeopardy, it doesn’t necessarily mean anything. Other than the fact that they don’t seem to put the most popular and high scoring couples in jeopardy because nobody would really believe they were in danger.
Bottom two or in jeopardy it felt great to see Sabrina and Louis scared to be eliminated.
I’m not usually one to wish someone to be eliminated but these guys pushed too far on Monday with their remarks about tricks and circus and less is more it felt great to see them get knocked down a few pegs.
Maybe Sabrina like Gilles can learn its not about winning but its a show they have to let their egos at the doors and entertain us, taking risks calculated risks is part of the game the goal is to entertain not copy dances.
I thought Derek and Shawn were lucky to get the mambo. Or at least, they’re lucky that another couple didn’t get it. I would have loved to see them with something different too, but I think their mambo will be great.
I also don’t think there was much thought put into the selection of the dances. I think they all just randomly picked something because they were running out of time.
I fear that Derek has gotten just too goddamned awesome for DWTS and will leave the show. This Is a heterosexual male saying this. He’s fantastic. I think he’d be great in a remake of a Fred Astaire classic. I love the feel needed with Bing Crosby that spawned Holiday Inn. I also think he’d make a great David Bowie in a movie.
Let me just ask one thing:
1-Where in world is the donkey? I’m so frustrated… Cheryl promissed…
Leigh, #70: “I personally think it would be funny to make a montage of how may times Sabrina’s elemination is mentioned and Gilles “I am so awesome/I have to win” comments.”
You know, if those got turned into a drinking game, that could be a really fun party.
I loved the couples choosing dances for one another. some people don’t know the definition of stratagy lol.
Kirstie and Maks getting the charleston: I like this idea. she could do really well since between her and Maks they can get really creative. Big Mistake giving them this dance.
Sabrina and Louis getting disco: Another mistake. She could nail it. Plus, Louis looked thrilled.
Shawn and Derek getting Mambo: Huge mistake. They can nail it too.
Giles and Peta getting Bollywood: Could go either way. It could be really good or really cheesy. I’m leaning towards the latter.
Kelly and Val getting contemporary: I saw contemporary there and immediately thought “OMG Chelsie would nail it but so would Kelly”. I’m happy
Apolo and Karina: Probably the dance that will be last next week (I’m calling it now lol). He should be great!
Bristol and Mark getting Rock and Roll: so towo questions: 1) Um this is a dance style? and 2) Is there any way she can do good with it since all I have to compare it too is a jive so this can be a trainwreck. Can’t wait to see the fight this week now.
Melissa and tony getting jitterbug: It seemed like tony wanted that one so this could be fun.
Emmitt and Cheryl: I get the strategy behind it. If it reminds the judges too much of his paso they can give him a lower score. The only form of strategy I saw last night.
@gibroni: I agree 100% about the Fred Astaire thing. The one movie I would love to see him in doesn’t have fred astaire in it though. What about this possibility: “Arsenic and Old Lace” He would make a great Mortimer.
That’s when I haven’t seen. I’ll have to look for it on Amazon or Netflix.
mmc I also think there is a STFU gif to be had of Gilles in the confessional when he is talking and Peta has her head in her hands. lol caption contest for that one.
@gibroni: it’s a cary grant movie from the 1940s (1944 I think but not sure) based on a broadway comedy. Awesome movie.
Also I have to echo I think Sabrina and Louis definitely did Kirstie a favor by giving her the Charleston over Rock & Roll. She can hopefully pull that one off while Bristol once again doesn’t lift her feet off the ground.
Vin, I always saw Maks in that role, he just does the Cary Grant double take so well! You see it a lot with his interactions with Kirstie.
As for Derek, I could definitely see him doing the Bing Crosby role in White Christmas or … ooh, High Society! And now I have to go off and cast all the DWTS pros in classic movie roles. *LOL* Fun!
Evaine #95
“As for Derek, I could definitely see him doing the Bing Crosby role in White Christmas or … ooh, High Society! And now I have to go off and cast all the DWTS pros in classic movie roles. *LOL* Fun!”
I can’t wait to see what you come up with! What a great idea.
I am a first time poster and I love the website for all the great information. There is something we gotta do about Bristol Palin because Apolo’s season and Helio’s season made this show one of my favorites to watch because it is so positive and entertaining. If I had a bad day, I watch the show and I would feel better. Now I still like watching the performances but when I find out who got kicked off because Palin stayed all the things that I loved about the show are gone. This show used to be about entertainment and fun and now it is about politics. I will probably be watching Monday Night Football on Monday because I can’t take it anymore.
Gibroni…Derek said this season will be his “swan song”….I hope it’s not true…but he did say it.
I may not be legitimately old enough for this question but….is Derek Astaire or gene Kelly?
If I may offer my humble opinion, I think Derek is more Gene Kelly. He’s more athletic than slenderly elegant. Both were innovators, perfectionists and thinkers out of the box, but I really believe Derek is more suited to American in Paris than Top Hat.
Thanks Figmentation for the Bolero link, that was stunning. So I bet we see an awful lot of Cheryl dancing around Emmitt. I’d love to see Derek do that with Nicole or one of the female pros, like Karina or Anna.
I’d love to see your casting list Evaine. How fun.
Oh Lord, I’m going to have to do more than idly muse on things then! *LOL*
Ok guys, I’m gonna ask you to cool it with the links for now – it’s getting to be a bit of a free-for-all. Marianya & Lori have a post coming up about this week’s dances, anyway…stay tuned
Hey #47 Marianya,
I forgot to thank you for your input. I know I’m being very cynical on intent from Louis and Sabrina’s pov. I think they got on my last nerve and that’s how I’m viewing them. But everyone got what they got and it’ll be interesting for me to see everyone next week.
Heid#99: I love your question! I think Derek has both the elegance, fluidity and finesse of Fred Astaire and the athleticism and strength of Gene Kelly. I could easily see him dancing any and all of their iconic movie roles.
What happened to Derek’s movie? Did it come out yet?
They are showing ten minutes of Derek’s movie at a K-pop conference this weekend and are having a discussion panel about it. They’ve been screening it a good bit. Rumor is first quarter of 2013.
Katy, Voting on Facebook is very easy. You just click on the couple you want to give a vote to; they’ll tell you how many votes you’ve given each couple and how many votes you have left. I love that they’ve made this available because I am currently in Australia and am unable to vote via text or telephone, but can still vote via Facebook.
I’d say Derek is more like Fred Astaire and Mark like Gene Kelly. Fred Astaire was noted for his attention to detail and how he made every move seem so easy when in fact it was not. Mikhail Baryshnikov once commented about how difficult it was for him to recreate an Astaire dance for these two reasons. Gene Kelly was smaller and more compact than Astaire and a much showier dancer.
That IS an interesting question..IMHO-I have always thought he was more like GK in the ways he looks and moves and GK paid alot of attention to athleticism (according to some older relatives who teach dance) could get kind of brooding and obsessed with innovating and creating new things and be a little prickly when he couldn’t make things look the way he wanted them to. He was not the laid-back, “aw, I’ll just shuffle through this dance”guy that alot of ppl thought he was. I think to lots of ppl Derek comes across as easygoing but he can be very tough and get a little down on himself and “snappy” when things aren’t perfect (in dance). Otherwise he is very much as he usually appears and is very nice, polite etc. But I think mentally Derek is like both because he is also about DETAILS and precise movement and Astaire (again the relatives,who have hundreds of hours of dancing footage of both men, which I have studied too)was a technition, who studied angles and asthetics and all things involved a each dance.
BTW, when Cobu was screened in LA did it get mostly positive feedback and reviews?
Weighing in on the whole Derek as Gene Kelly vs. Fred Astaire debate – I’ve got to go with the latter. Fred was known for his ease of movement, and how fluid and effortless he made everything look. He was also considered better at partnering than Gene – I remember a fun “Fred vs. Gene” anecdote that my bf once told me. After Cyd Charisse’s death in 2008, her husband wrote a book. In it, he described how he could always tell who his wife had danced with on set on a particular day by how many bruises she had when she came home at night – if she had a bunch, she had danced with Gene, who was known to be rather rough and very physically demanding on his partners; if she had none, she had danced with Fred, who was much gentler and more well-versed in the art of partnering. Other differences between Fred & Gene? Gene was considered to be the more athletic & masculine of the two, so he often nabbed more of the “handsome man’s man” roles; Fred was more often cast as the flashy, Hollywood showman type. Gene was known to be more outgoing and had a reputation for being kinda moody & prone to temper tantrums; Fred was more introverted and shy, and could be hard to get to know.
The director seems very happy with the screening results, and on twitter I’ve seen only positive responses from those who saw the movie. Not that I’ve seen a lot – I think they ask you not to broadcast. They will never release the results of the screening cards. One guy wrote a whole review and said that the dancing was phenomenal and that he really enjoyed the movie, but he wasn’t sure if the female lead was that great an actress.
One thing that I found positive (as a Derek fan), was that after the first round of screening, they went back and shot with Derek for another week. NEW scenes in New Orleans and exteriors in NYC. That said to me that the comments were about not enough back story on Derek’s character. I consider it a good sign that viewers wanted to see more of him AND that they actually spent the money to screen and do reshoots. You see it on big movies all the time, but that they’re taking the time and spending the money on an indie is a good sign, IMO.
After reading the comments above, I have a feeling my fun night of dancing might also turn into a night filled with too much wine and a mute button securely in hand. I have a feeling these judges might piss me off. And the bobble head Paula too!
Oops!! Sorry my comment above #113 belonged in the Week 4 challenge section… Sorry!
per #112….Yes, that does sound positive. It sounded for awhile it would not get a U.S. release. Maybehis additional footage could make it more poosible if they didn’t feel her character was strong enough.
Eh, just rumors. Movies just take time some time.
I read anectodes about Gene Kellyand Fred Astaire and I read an interview of Debbie Reynolds she said that Gene kelly was very hard on her on the Singin in the rain set and that one day where they shot Good Morning song Fred Astaire was visiting the set and Gene Kelly and found Debbie crying.
He comforted her and planned private lessons with her, they danced in secret and Debbie came back shooting better than ever she even earned compliments from Gene she said Fred Astaire was a patient talented teacher and dancer and that she was thankful for Fred.
After reading this I realised Derek has the energy and powerful moves of Gene Kelly with the ability to partner and great teacher and the elegance of a great dancer that was Fred Astaire.
@Evaine : That would be great casting too but I always envisioned Derek in the role after thinking about who could costar with him as his love interest/fiancee (I would cast Scarlet Johansen in the role). To be honest though, I jsut want the movie remade so we can have Meryl Streep and Jessica Lange as the crazy aunts
I think Derek is more of a Fred Astaire just becuase of the attention to detail. Not really a Gene Kelly fan to be honest. He was a great dancer but an ok actor in my opinion.
Also, I was thinking of movies that Derek would be great in if they remade them and thought of this one. It’s a little old but its a goodie: “It Happened One Night “.
On a side note, I was talking to some of my friends and they think Sonny from the troupe is awesome and should be a competing pro. he is my new fav troupe memeber too. the producers hit a home run with this guy.
Heidi, Courtney and all others that gave some us some fun facts that I was not aware of about Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly I just wanted to thank you. It was fun reading. I love this site because I always learn a lot of things that I didn’t know before.
I am looking forward to seeing what the pros choreograph for us with these different dances. Not sure yet how Paula will be as a judge. I know this is dancing versus AI, but on AI she was known for just saying nice things to everyone even if it was that they looked pretty or something nice. I would hope that she will be honest in her judging and really critique all of the dancers. Guess we will have to wait and see.