DWTS 16 Pros: Food for Thought – Did Maks Try to “Pull an Edyta”?
I know we’re all still reeling from the whiplash of Pro Watch – old pros are sitting this one out, entirely new pros are being brought in, troupe members are getting promoted, and the status of some pros seems to change from “out” to “in” and back again on a daily basis. The general question on everyone’s lip: “WTF is going on at DWTS??!!!”
While I don’t have a ton of insider info about what’s going on with the casting (even the insiders seem to be somewhat in the dark this season!), I do have a theory or two, and some knowledge of previous seasons to help back up said theories – and I’m about to share one with you that may or may not put things in perspective, and may or may not help ease your concerns…but it’s one that at least makes some sense, given what we’ve seen unfolding the past week or so and what we know of previous seasons. Take it with a biiiiig grain of salt, as I’m not 100% confident in the veracity of some of the claims made in it. And Maks fans of the hypersensitive persuasion should probably just stop reading right now.
First, let’s go back in time to about 2.5 years ago – the week or so leading up to the season 11 cast annoucement. Lacey had tweeted something cranky (and characteristically “Lacey”) about not being part of that season’s cast, and we were led to believe that she would be sitting that season out. About 36-48 hours later, we were smacked in the face by the news that Edyta had suddenly quit DWTS, and Lacey was then excitedly tweeting that she was back in as one of the pros. What happened??? Allegedly (and I’m using this as a precaution, as the info I’m about to share has been culled from multiple sources – some more credible than others, and not all of it matches up), Edyta had tried leveraging in her negotiations with TPTB – some think she was upset that her husband Alec wasn’t getting asked back as a pro, some say she was upset about the partner she got (which confuses me – read on), some say she was holding out for more $$$, who knows. Whatever it was, I guess Edyta tried to throw her weight around as the longest-tenured pro on the show (at the time) and gave the producers an ultimatum: “You give me [insert demand here] or I quit.” To which the producers replied, “K, bye then!” I’m guessing Edyta wasn’t expecting them to call her bluff, and she also doesn’t strike me as the type who will swallow their pride easily, so of course, she had to follow through on her promise, and out she went.
Besides the obvious problem of being short 1 female pro, Edyta’s sudden exit had some shock waves that resonated through the cast that season. Edyta, who was 5’7″ and had sucessfully partnered the 6’6″ Jason Taylor in season 6, was allegedly supposed to partner the 6’7″ Rick Fox (who is still in a 3-way tie for the record of tallest person ever to do DWTS); the only other tall female pro on in the cast that season, Kym, had been promised to David Hasselhoff as part of his contract. The powers that be had to do some fixing, and they had to do it quick – so they brought Lacey back to fill Edyta’s vacancy. But at 5’3″, there was no way Lacey could partner Rick – and that would have been a very odd couple to watch, don’t you think? At 5’4″, Cheryl was at least up to the challenge (and made a very pretty pairing with Rick), but that left her original partner, Michael Bolton, without a partner. Michael was both short in stature and had a reputation of being a bit difficult to work with, so he was given to the 5’2″ and oh-so-calm Chelsie, who was originally supposed to be paired with Kyle…and Kyle was given to Lacey, creating one of the most memorable partnerships we’ve ever had on DWTS…and they have Edyta and her tantrum to thank for that
So you see now what kinds of problems the exit of ONE PRO caused in an otherwise normal season – it required a lot of shuffling around of partnerships, and one pro that was originally told “you’re out” was suddenly back in. Now let’s apply the same logic to this season – which is arguably NOT a regular season. The show is in transition: they want to bring in new blood, but at the same time keep some old favorites to keep loyal viewers watching. Some pros are on the verge of moving on to bigger & better things, and some of the pros are, for lack of a better term, just stagnating on the show. They need to create a lineup that is both new and exciting to viewers, yet still follows a bit of a “something for everyone” formula: they need a bad boy, a boy next door, a sexy foreign minx, a wholesome girl-next-door type, a rebel, etc. They need a cast that is going to pull in viewers and keep ratings strong after a lackluster all-star season. Now as much as I LOVE Anna & Chelsie as human beings, I’ve got to be honest: neither one ever seemed to reach their full potential on the show. Blame it on the partners they were given, blame it on bad music, wacky themes, whatever – Chelsie placed the highest in her first season on the show, and then was never able to achieve any higher than 5th place again; and as I heard many of you remarking after last season, Anna seems to have a renegade competitive streak that has a tendency to both create friction with her partners and to make her appear unintentionally cold to viewers. As much as it pains me to say it – perhaps TPTB had seen the best they were going to get out of these two ladies, and it just wasn’t enough. I doubt their exit was anything personal – it was just the price of doing business. Enter Lindsay & Sharna – one was basically Chelsie 2.0, a blonde Mormon fresh off of a stint on SYTYCD; the other was basically a Lacey 2.0 – since TPTB seem to have phased out their former “rebel child”, perhaps they thought it time to reintroduce some of that rebel energy to the ballroom.
As for Kym & Derek – as I’ve heard from multiple people close to the show, they are both VERY highly thought of by TPTB, and are the type that can afford to step away from the show for a season (or more) and know they will always have a pro slot waiting for them back at DWTS…if they want it. They create entertaining dances, are good teachers, are easy to work with, and are the epitome of being a professional. According to Deep Throat (our insider at the show), Kym had been expressing a desire to move on from the show and return to Australia for a few seasons now – and I’m guessing that when the opportunity to do Celebrity Apprentice: Australia knocked at Kym’s door, she thought now would be a good time to answer. I’m guessing that she perhaps wasn’t banking on getting voted off so early (we’ve heard she was eliminated after the 3rd or 4th challenge), and TPTB figured out a way to work around any taping obligations she had for that show, so she probably said “Sure, why not?” at the prospect of returning to DWTS. As for Derek – after his wistfully and bittersweet interview about Shawn at the end of the all-star season, I think he felt very torn about leaving DWTS: he felt like he had to do it in order to grow and move on to bigger & better things, but at the same time felt very attached to it, as it’s where he really seemed to grow as a choreographer…and it’s an outlet that allows him to really experiment with his choreography, with a captive audience. I think for all of the reasons mentioned above, TPTB were probably willing to be a bit more flexible if it meant getting these two back as pros – the problem being that it’s not always as quick as “Sure, we can work around your 5 bajillion other projects, Derek!!!” There was likely a lot of back and forth and compromise going on in the board room before they could sign either of these two back on for season 16 – which is why it probably took awhile for us to get a straight answer on them. That, and they probably didn’t want to give any of the viewers false hope.
Now here’s the big question that I’m seeing a lot: “What about Maks???” Let me first say this: I have good reason to believe that Maks was originally supposed to be part of this season. Can’t go into detail, but let’s just say he was originally on the roster – TPTB wanted him back, and Maks was planning on coming back….as of about a week ago. I’m guessing that SOMETHING went down between then and now…and it was something that was a deal-breaker for Maks, TPTB, or both. My guess? It was Edytapocalype, redux – either Maks disliked the partner he was given, or demanded more money, or made some other sort of ultimatum, and the consequence of TPTB failing to comply would be his exit…either for good, or just for this season. However, I don’t know that Maks was necessarily prepared for TPTB to call his bluff – and if they did it with Edyta, I’m guessing they did it with Maks, too…because they, like us, know that this show is bigger than any 1 pro. They’ve done seasons without Derek, seasons without Maks, seasons without Kym, seasons without Lacey, Chelsie, Anna, Karina, Tristan, Peta, etc. – and the show has been fine. I have to wonder if Maks, upon hearing “K, sit this one out then, byyyyeeee!” from TPTB, was suddenly a bit…rueful. And if he had Lizzie whispering in his ear, I’m guessing that, as TMZ was reporting he had “quit”, he and Lounge Lizard Grubman were already trying to come up with a strategy to get Maks back in the game…but they needed to buy some time, and they probably needed to do it in such a way that they made Maks come out smelling like roses (that’s what PR folks are for, right?) The story of Maks “quitting” broke on Friday, and Maks was allegedly supposed to make a statement today…which we have yet to hear. I’m guessing they (Maks & Lizzie) were planning on approaching TPTB with a new proposal, or were just going to agree to whatever stipulations TPTB set forth in order to secure a spot. What they likely weren’t banking on, however, was TPTB hiring a Maks 2.0 – a brand new tall, dark, handsome Russian for the ladies to swoon over. Notice that the news of Gleb joining the cast just broke today – my guess is that over the weekend, TPTB decided to pull one of their many irons out of the fire in order to fill the gap left by Maks. And believe you me, they do keep many irons in the fire – my bf flew out to interview for a pro spot back in 2009, and while they didn’t offer him a spot outright, they did ask “If we have any positions that open up in the next few seasons, is it ok we if keep you on our list?” And they have called – sometimes they need dancers for pro dances, sometimes they’re looking for people to audition for the troupe, sometimes they want pros for things like the cruises & the Vegas show, etc. The bf hasn’t been able to pursue any of those opportunities (kind of hard to drop everything and leave the students at his studio to go dance in one results show dance), but it does go to show that at any given time, TPTB at DWTS do have a “little black book” full of names to call upon if they need them.
Then again, I could be totally wrong, and maybe Maks just decided he wanted a break. We may never know for sure
But hey, if nothing else, I got you guys thinking, and maybe put some of your fears at ease…or helped you regain your wits after the craziest pro watch we’ve ever had here at Pure
Be sure to keep an eye out for my cast announcement live blog – I’ll be commencing the festivities at 7 AM EST (lord help me) and will be updating the page periodically until they actually announce the cast – I believe Heidi will also be tweeting the cast as its announced from the @puredwts Twitter account. You won’t want to miss it…here’s to the wait being over in less than 12 hours!!!
ETA: Heidi here to add an update to this subject before we can hopefully move on to the season and all the weirdness surrounding it. ABC issued a statement that makes it clear that (supposedly) Maks just wasn’t asked back this season because, as sometimes happens, they didn’t have a partner for him. They equate it to what happened to Chelsie, Anna and Louis – to name three. Although he certainly was not expecting it, going by the Extra interview he did last last week, Maks offered a very gracious statement thanking the show, the producers and the fans. What this says to me is that we can expect to see Maks back on a future season, whether he was pissed or not by the developments over the last week or not. If you’re pissed and done, you react more like one of his friends did on twitter.
Almost every season, the Ukrainian-American hothead generates headlines by suggesting he won’t return to the ballroom. It looks like he finally got his wish, though ABC warns not to read too much into his absence since he won’t be the only pro sitting on the sidelines this season.
“We frequently rotate the professional dancers, so it is not unusual for them to rest a cycle,” according to an ABC spokeswoman. “As we consider who will be matched up each season, there are a lot of factors that dictate which couples make the best pairings. We appreciate each of our dancers dedication to the show, so this is a very difficult decision. Anna, Chelsie, Maks and Louis continue to be a part of the Dancing With the Stars family.”
Maks’ statement via US Magazine.com:
“I just want to set the record straight to all of my amazing fans that I will unfortunately not be returning for this season of Dancing With the Stars,” Chmerkovskiy said in a statement after the cast was revealed on Good Morning America. “I’ve been a pro dancer on the show for about seven years now and am eager to explore other opportunities that have been made possible because of Dancing With the Stars. I’m going to take this time to dive into producing and acting, while fulfilling my sponsorship obligations.”
“A big thank you to all of my fans for your never-ending support,” he added. “I also want to thank the entire cast and production of Dancing With the Stars.”
Here’s Maks on Access Hollywood talking about his dating status and his exit from DWTS. I say again – Lizzie is one aggressive publicist. I’ve never heard someone talk so much about what they’re NOT doing. LOL! And it’s shows like this that perpetuate this myth that poor Maks never gets good partners. :::rolls eyes::: This is an interesting interview from what he’s trying really hard NOT to say. Who be spinning now, Maks?
I get the sense that he’s being very careful, and if he’s not, he’ll be in trouble. Pesky contracts.
Here’s an interview where Derek is asked about Maks’ not being on the show and he gives the standard company line. What is MORE interesting than that, though, is what comes later in the interview. Because there is a significant cut in the video, it’s likely that Derek is NOT talking specifically about Maks (because he doesn’t have a history of being that way), despite how ET tries to give that pejorative spin. It’s interesting to hear how all the pros (and probably judges, hosts and field producers and the like) met with the producers and were told that this season they were going to try to get some of the innocence of the show back. Listen to the whole thing – interesting, and possibly enlightening regarding the cast and the infusion of Sharna and Lindsay…if you really want to read the tea leaves. (I watched the whole thing and it appears that Derek is the only one asked about Maks – I wonder if he has a 500th job as show PR??
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I find it all very plausible, Courtney. I think, because of one of Maks’ tweets last week that it was a question of celeb pairing and he wasn’t happy with it. (I don’t buy that they all find out the day or two before the reveal.) He sure could have pulled an Edyta and TPTB called him on it. I put nothing past that hot temper and questionable Lizzie. When I see the celebs for this season I may change my mind, but what you’ve set forth is very plausible.
Interesting! I’m glad Derek is on this season, if it weren’t for him I probably wouldn’t be watching! So many of my favorites are out his season. In a way I think Lindsay is “Chelsie” this season. I feel bad for Anna though, I actually like her cold sense of humor and will miss it this season. I admit last season she wasn’t that exciting but it as because she wa going through a tough time, I would think the producers would bring her back this season for that sole purpose, apparently they’re more interested in ratings which is understandable…guess I’m just a big fan of change! We shall wait and find out!;)
Bravo. Well thought-out, well presented. Nicely done, Miss Court!
Fantastic write up! Thank you Courtney
I love your insight. Thank you.
Great post, Courtney. You have a way with words that just make us all so intrigued and really interested. That’s definitely some food for thought with Maks/Derek/Kym. And totally agree about Chelsie. I really do love her (she was my fave when she was on SYTYCD) but I just don’t think her work is really cutting it.
I really appreciate all the work you (and Heidi and Vogue) have already put into this season! It’s makes me, and I’m sure everyone else, so much more excited for the season ahead.
Makes a lot of sense Courtney. I saw the Extra interview that was on this past Friday when it re-aired today and Maks clearly thought he would be back this season. I know that doesn’t mean tptb didn’t already have Hottie McChenko coming and Maks was the last to know but neither Maks nor tptb have given their sides of the story yet. Interesting.
Are the pairs being announced too, or just the celebs? Thanks
Well reasoned and supported, Courtney. I’m all for some fresh faces. Everyone is new once and if they have something to offer, the fans will figure it out quickly enough and embrace them. We’ll find out the reality of it all soon.
@Evaine
Thanks for the info on Maks’ tweet about not liking the celeb pairing. I didn’t know that. Now I’m even more curious who that celeb may have been and who they’re going to now if that’s the case.
Thanks everyone for the kind feedback
Just a theory or two that I have developed in the last few days to help me make sense of the madness!!!
@sheery – I believe this announcement is going to closely mirror the season 14 announcement: around 8:30ish, they announce all the celebs, take a commercial break, announce who their partners are, take another commercial break, do a short Q&A session, and then that’s it. Hoping to be done w/live blog by 9:30ish…I got errands to run.
Wow! Just wow! Good theory, Court! I fear that the new “Australian” Russian might be the end for Maks long term. I guess we’ll have to see how he does.
Don’t misunderstand me, Ashley. What he tweeted was about reading some A-list celeb interview and the celeb being less than um… educated? He wasn’t impressed. I don’t know that it was his proposed partner though. I just thought it odd because he doesnt’ usually tweet stuff like that.
I wonder and this may have already been spoken about if it had to do with Peta and he pulled a “Me or her” on TPTB and they did not appreciate an ultimatum and therefore said “Ok, her. Bye-Bye.”
After we find out who the female celebrities are, it will be interesting to speculate about who Maks’ partner might have been. Since Gleb looks tall, it seems like a single substitution instead of the cascade of partner changes like in S11.
Ah, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying Evaine.
I know which tweet you’re talking about, Evaine…I thought it was weird too. But he didn’t name any names. But Friday’s extra had to have been taped on either Wednesday or Thursday – and he sounded VERY happy and up beat and looking forward to what he called a “fun season”. That doesn’t sound like a guy who was unhappy with his partner. I tend to think that he wanted something else.
As for knowing the partners in advance, there have been MANY seasons where Derek’s clearly known a week or more in advance of the announcement. He and Cheryl both. Wouldn’t surprise me if Maks also often knew well in advance.
I don’t know, @mmc. It may be why they called Derek back to the show. Maybe it was a “celeb with pull” who wanted Maks, but would take Derek if Maks was not available for whatever reason. I would say that they are probably the two most sought after male pros on the show.
A very thought provoking article. I leave my hypersensitivity at the door when I come over here to read stuff, Courtney, because I know Maks fans are in short supply, but I come here just because of the research and time you ladies put into topics like the one I just read. I think you’re right..we may never know what transpired with Maks and TPTB. He and Lizzie are strangely quiet today when we were supposed to hear what was going on. I never knew why Edyta left suddenly years ago. Maks’ situation may be similar. I am disappointed that I won’t be seeing him dance, but the sun will come up in the morning, and life goes on. Thanks for putting this together. A fellow crazy cat lady, and Donnie Wahlberg fan is ok in my book.
It’s only logical that they would keep a little black book for “emergencies”. I’d call it common sense but that is something TPTB sometimes show a remarkable lack thereof(see the all-star season) lol
Thank you for your thoughts, Miss Courtney
After being convinced Derek was finally off this heavily manipulated show, but suddenly he’s back, plus Kym gone, but back again, also such a senior pro like Anna being out, I very much welcome your theories.
I was never a fan of Maks’ so his being off is the one great news among the craziness that is pro watch
I can’t stand his mouth, attitude nor choreography (for his celeb), most of the time. And I never found him handsome so that his supposed replacement is gorgeous made me even more excited
Even more satisfying if Gleb was truly last minute. Am I mean? Sorry
(well here’s to hoping he’s not arrogant like Maks in which case I’ll dislike him just like I do towards Maks) If Maks really pulled an Edyta, wow. I’m glad TPTB has always had irons in the fire. DWTS is a top network TV show, Maks should have been prepared.
To know that Kym and Derek are highly appreciated and that the producers are willing to work around them is really satisfying. They are the best.
I read a *rumor* that Maks got Mama June, and said gave a HELL NO, then quit…sounds like something he’d do
Lol cbg, where’d you read that?
Question, Courtney, on the timing of announcements. Maks tapes an interview at some point before Friday stating he’s looking forward to the new season. On Friday, Derek tweets that he’s going to be on the new season even though he didn’t think it would work out. Logic would dictate that Aly Raisman will be his partner. Would Maks threaten to quit rather than watch Derek spend another season with an Olympic gymnast guaranteed to make the finals if not win? As you said, something had to happen. Is it possible that something was Maks hearing that Derek would be back and partnered with Aly? Just a suspicion rolling around in my brain that Maks has had enough of the Derek love on the show.
Mama June being on the show was debunked quite some time ago, in DWTS time.
I think Maks would resent the thought that he does anything in his life because of Derek. He’s not Jan to Derek’s Marsha. Even *I* don’t think he’s that stupid. “What?? Derek’s back on the show?? That’s IT, I QUIT cuz you guys like him better than me!!” Ummm…no.
Besides, by most rational count, and not counting last season – Maks has had more ringers than Derek has. Possibly even counting last season. And what logic on earth dictates that Aly gets Derek? Because he’s had ONE Olympian and ONE Gymnast and ONE youngster (who are all embodied in the same person) in ten seasons?? Yeah, that makes it logical…only not. FYI – Aly said she wanted VAL and she’s following Val on Twitter. Maybe Maks had a tantrum because Val got Aly?? Yeah….I didn’t think so.
Really, it’s not just Derek’s fans that make everything about Derek. He’s also the boogie man. Come on, people. Quit projecting.
I honestly don’t know what would have made Maks want to sit this one out – we may never know the full truth. I don’t know that Derek being in had anything to do with it – a little birdie told me Maks had already decided he was out before Derek knew he was in.
Can you imagine if all the pros who have gotten less desirable partners flew off the handle?
Sad about Chelsie not being a pro this season but agree that she hasn’t really met her potential. I love watching her during the pro dances and when she is dancing to other people’s choreography ( like the Jason Gilkinson samba on SYTYCD). I think she is a fab dancer and would be better suited for the troupe. Here’s hoping she gets to do many Tuesday performances. Hoping she gets to be an All Star on SYTYCD like the last time she was off for a season on DETS.
Oops meant DWTS not DETS
It makes a lot of sense. =]
Well Lounge Lizard Grubman tweeted Maks will be on Access Hollywood today. And his fansite posted an OK magazine video interview he did on Thursday getting ready and excited for the season. So Lizard Lizzie may want to not treat the public like they’re stupid by having Maks say he quit because he had projects etc. and nothing out of the ordinary happened. But I won’t hold my breath.
Maybe maks is tired of what dwts had become i know at times i am and wanted to sit this one out and sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one
at times the producers make the show into a circus and i hope all these surf flamencos etc have gone by the wayside
gleb is a wonderful dancer and i am sure will be a good addition although i do think they could have troupe promoted …. Now what im wondering is how many of these so called stars i will know
my guess not many lol
I would totally agree with you Jo except for the two interviews he did the day before it was reported on Friday that he called the producers a few days earlier and said he quit. The stories just don’t match up. Heck, I certainly wouldn’t blame Maks for wanting to leave and sit this one out at all and come back in the fall. It would just be nice if he and/or TPTB would clear up the confusion. Hoping for a great season either way.
Yep ashley
and as much as i will miss maks and i will life goes on for him and the viewers
Excellent Court and this makes total sense to me. BTW I about split a gut when you wrote “Lounge Lizard Grubman”! If I was Val, etc right now, I would find another agent.
I have a feeling seasons break wasn’t Maksims idea…. a twitter quote from the “Dance With Me” family…..papazhenya
“eugene livshits @papazhenya
@ABC_Publicity you guys completely screwed yourself and your ratings. Bigger and better things coming from the fam @MaksimC”
Thanks for this excellent article. As you say, we’ll never know what really happened but this sure seems very plausible.
I’m with ya Vogue – Val really ought to find another publicist, but I doubt it will happen. He seems very comfortable being in step with The Family, and The Family is very monolithic — “all for one, one for all”. Also, they’re very loyal if they feel you’re doing right by The Family. That’s certainly not a bad trait unless it’s taken to extremes.
Very plausible theory. If Maks, like pretty much everyone else, was working on the premise that Derek would not be back, it is entirely possible that he asked more money or threw one of his usual tantrums.
Truth be told, I don’t think Tptb will regret their decision. For a start they have Derek back, who is one of the big stars of the show; Mark, while not in Derek’s league, has bene paired with the kind of star that brings out the best in him (color me surpreised if he and Aly don’t make at least to the semifinals); Tony, if any thing, has showed that he is the dear of a decent slice of the audience: I’m still convinced that the victory of season 15 was more about him than Melissa; Val has done better than expected with Kelly and has proved himself a good teacher; Tristano might finally get his chance to shine.
In this picture, I think it makes total sense to experiment with some new blood. If they get lucky they might find a new golden boy, otherwise…well, I guess someone always needs to go first. No big drama there.
I actually enjoyed Maks last season (I’m not a hater), but I credit Kristie a lot for it. Maks can work well with the right partner, but can also be a train wreck with the wrong one. And what’s worst is that it’s not always easy to predict which partnership with him might not work, as largely demonstrated by Hope Solo (who I still think was paired with Maks with the idea that he would finally have a shot at victory).
@Cidra loyal if you treat them right vicious of you cross them.
I still think it has something to do with Peta and nothing to do with Derek but that is only an opinion. Maks is an a$$ at times yes but even he isn’t that much of a douche.
Not everything is about Derek. (Don’t let PH know I said that)
Well given Eugene’s tweet, no wonder Maks’ ego goes off the rails. I love supporting you’re friends and family but there are ways to do it that don’t come off arrogant and angry. To say ABC screwed themselves and their ratings, uh really? Oh that’s right, because Maksim IS the show and ABC wouldn’t have a show without him because Maks brings in the ratings and they’ll drop drastically without him there.
If he had said, ‘sometimes things don’t work out the way we plan but thank you to DWTS for giving me season after season to show people what I enjoy doing and giving me a public stage. I have amazing things in the works and I hope my fans and those that don’t yet know me enjoy it and come along for the journey.’ Now that’s someone I would root for not someone who can’t seem to get the giant chip off his shoulder.
I hope Valentin has more sense and really gets to shine and doesn’t throw an entitled fit, like he did briefly last season when he didn’t like the scores. I really hope he’s wiser, more appreciative and does really well.
Girl, I’ve been saying “not everything is about Derek” for YEARS and no one seems to listen. He’s the savior, the god and the big, fat boogie man all rolled into one.
Fantastic post! I have at times adored Maks and at times found him to be so overdue for a break. I think he (and Val) need to cut back on the spoiled, entitled brat attitude. My hunch is that your post is spot-on. There are a lot of signs that point that way, IMO, and once I saw Gleb yesterday I thought hmmm, a test of Maks 2.0? A few months ago it seemed like Maks/Lizzie were plenty quick to dispel the idea that Maks was leaving quite yet because he’s still under contract. Now boom, he wants a season off.
I suspect that it’s true TPTB decided to have him sit this one out, and they’re gracious enough to let him spin it his way – cause who knows, they may want to keep their options open about bringing him back too. Whether it was a partner issue, the Peta split, the temper issues, pulling an Edyta, I think likely a combo of all, my gut tells me this was less Maks’ choice and more the show’s. And I’m fine with it, I think it’s long overdue.
Any instincts that perhaps Kym was lured back in part by Ingo requesting her? Fellow Aussie’s (right?) and he’s a pretty hot add in my opinion.
I think it’ll be an interesting season! As with any cast I don’t love them all (UGH on Andy Dick and Wynonna), but of course I’ll be watching!
PH – ah well, that’s The Houghster’s magic for you! He’s all things to all people, and he’s not even trying! What a guy.
Very informative reading. I hadn’t realized why Edyta was gone, certainly didn’t miss her much. Her imagination always seemed to disappear halfway through the season (I’m remembering the dance-costumes & all-when Cameron Matheson was eliminated). Just can’t imagine if he wasn’t happy with his proposed partner who it would be. Even if he didn’t think they up to his usual standard, he should’ve taken the challenge to show off his teaching skills. After seeing this season’s cast, I don’t see who he’d be unhappy with. I am very happy to have such a hot pro as Gleb to look at! Did i read he’s a 7-time Latin champ? Looks to be an even better season without Maks to me.
The People Mag Aticle on Maks departure is interesting. A “rep” says that Maks, Anna, Louie, and Chelsie continue to be a part of the DWTS family. Any word on the troupe. Why not let these pros take those spots this season. It may be a step down but a steady job is a steady job.
I can see Maks trying “to pull and Edyta” in regards to Peta.
That People article has a lovely, professional, appreciative, statement by Maks and Val today on Maks not being on and moving forward with a promising long-term career. Very nice gentlemen. Kudos to you!! I hope they stay this way.
Now, if they could just dump Lizzie and find some A-Class, professional representation.
I’m surprised Maks and Val do not have the same manager as Tony. I mean that is a GUARANTEED win there.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Maks ended up getting exactly what he wanted all along – not to be back this season and maybe not have to be back next season either. It doesn’t make sense to me that Maks would want to prolong his contract with DWTS by just sitting out seasons of the show, since he would have to make them up per the terms of his contract. The ‘not liking his partner’ etc. may have been the pretext for ‘forcing’ the show to let him out of this season altogether, so he won’t have to make it up, and would owe the show just one more season. And he might not have to do that one last season he owes if he can parlay a deal with ABC to do something else with the show or for the network. I see that as the more likely scenario here. Maks seemed to me to be ‘done’ with DWTS even before the start of last All-Stars season, and I think he’s ready not to come back at all (unless his other plans don’t pan out the way he hopes/expects).
There is an article out now stating the reason for Max’s exit, It basically says that Maks needed space and DWTS is very accomodating, and Val stated that the door is always open to Maks, and now let someone else shine. Quick, somebody hide that key! LOL
I don’t know but Did Maks EVER shine, I can’t for the life of me remember one dance that he has ever done.
As I said before…Maks was clearly planning on being back on the show as recently as last wed/thurs based on his interview with Extra. So, he either didn’t know they didn’t have a partner for him, or something else happened.
Sandy – I will say, I still remember the Paso Maks did with Mel B…. I thought it was great. I also remember the “on, around, and over the bed” finale with Erin, but that one’s in the WTF? category for me.
@Heidi – That article was on my Comcast homepage, the ONLY place that I believe any DWTS news is right here. I was just amazed how this whole Maks drama can get spun around and make so much news. Who cares about Maks? He seriously needs to get over himself.
As we have seen loud and clear this season, any and all pros can be replaced at any time, there are many more that are waiting to fill their spot.
Obviously a lot of people care about Maks, or all these interviews and articles would not be happening. Whether you like him or not, there are a lot of people who do, and want to know why he isn’t on the show. He’s been on for quite a few seasons, and for some he’s the reason they watch. I don’t particularly like Derek, and for the life of me I can’t remember any dance HE’S ever done. But I respect that others do.
I actually think that was the message out of this Maks thing – anyone can be replaced at any time, so get over yourself. TPTB went out of their way to equate Maks with Anna, Chelsie and Louis – just another season where someone has to sit it out.
@PH anyone can be replaced except for Tom because we all know that it is truly HIS show.
Thanks,auntie bellum. I don’t see many Maks fans on this site and it’s nice to know there are others out there. One of the reasons I have enjoyed this site is that there was relatively little bashing of pros or celebrities going on. Opinions are expressed but it has never gotten downright mean and hateful like posts I’ve seen elsewhere. Respect is always appreciated.
I was disgusted the most with the first part of Maks’ interview with AH that I couldn’t even watch any further! When they asked about Peta and if he’s still dating, he should have said nothing. Isn’t it sad how he would never say anything while they WERE dating and now he’s more than happy to say something and throw her to the wind.
You can bet that Peta will have more class and never say anything about it.
Well said, Cher, well said
I cant wait to see what Maks has in store for us fans he deserves bigger & better things and its nice to hear that him and Peta are on good terms & are still friends.
I’m afraid to ask, but #59 Vogue – what was it he said?
Vogue, even more interesting that his other fans aren’t speaking up about that very blatant dig since they clearly adore Peta yet pick at every word Derek speaks. Maks is never held accountable. Perfect example of idolatry.
I didn’t hear a very blatant dig, but maybe I missed it. All I heard was a man trying to avoid the subject that Billy B was pushing and ended up saying that he knows what he wants. And that he is ready to be friends and if the woman wants, then it’s up to her. What did I miss? (And for the record, I feel neither one way or the other about Peta.) Was he oh so gallant? Nope. But I do believe he was honest.
And, Cher, he is MY future husband.
I agree totally Kat!!! I’m glad I’m not the only one who heard a dig there.
Anna R, Heidi updated the post and you can watch the AH interview to hear what he said (2nd to last video).
I have to say, imo, Maks skirted the issue as best he could as well as why he wasn’t on the show. AH came right out of the gate with “Are you single” and what happened with you and Peta and were you fired? Could Maks have said I’m not saying a word, sure but then, imo, that would cause more attention. I think he just said in regards to Peta that it didn’t work out and that’s how it goes sometimes. I don’t know, I think he did alright given they wouldn’t let up which is their job as well and he’s clearly trying to answer the questions without really answering, if you know what I mean.
That was my take too, Ashley. As well, they kept trying to set him up with Piper Perabo and Richard was dancing around like a crazy fool. I thought he did the best he could. (Maks and Piper were very cute together, I have to say.)
I look at it another way. This is your challenge, Maks, to excel in other arenas-and I don’t just mean silly appearances on other TV shows. Expand and explore your abilities and creativity.
So Maksim is not dancing this season, O’ well. Watching for DL, hope he stays awhile.
I don’t believe Maks asked for money. The pro and celebrity contracts changed in the cycles after the Alec Edyta showdown. The pros signed in Maks year are all treated the same and the new pros signed recently are paid less than the old pros. The new contracts have restrictions that are not attractive to some of the old pros. The old pros are bound for multiple years. Some different than others.
I don’t think Maks was asked back. Derek made it pretty clear in one of his interviews yesterday- Access Hollywood maybe? He said sometimes pros don’t get asked back- and he named Chelsie, Maks, and Louis. Maks might look forward to the time off to pursue his other projects but i think TPTB pushed his hand to this decision. I watched him on Access Hollywood talk about Peta…he is just so arrogant. His line that said “we all look for happiness and i am still looking” or something along that regard was his way of digging at Peta and letting everyone know that he broke up with her. He needs to learn how to be polished and answer questions better. He doesn’t even need to be as politically correct as Derek- bc at times he drives me nuts too.
Couldn’t agree more Joey!!
Not what we’ve heard, Edwina. The older pros have an advantage in that their long term contracts have expired and those pros either re-signed (like Maks, since he has 2 more seasons on his) or they go season to season (like Derek, apparently, since he seems to be more in the drivers seat). But when Maks re-signed, he could certainly re-negotiate all kinds of less restrictive things into his contract because he had the pull (and the management, I guess) to do so. He could easily have negotiated in salary bargaining each season. He could have negotiated in more freedom to take time off. He’d be stupid not to, and one thing he’s not, is stupid.
Yes, they are all different, and the new pros are more restricted than the older ones, and are paid less. But not all the older pros are the same, clearly. People like Maks, Derek, Cheryl and Mark very likely all have VERY different contracts because they all negotiate from a position of being well known. They’ve all been on the show much longer than what we’ve heard the original contract term is. MUCH longer. That said – none are truly irreplaceable and you can push the boundary to the point where producers say “no thanks”. Not saying that’s what happened – but something certainly did.
I want to think that Maks is just taking a break for a season to relax and recharge. He acted pretty darn ticked off all the time the past couple of seasons, so time away probably will help him in the long run. Also, with this cast, I think he dodged a bullet (he probably would’ve gotten Lisa Vanderpump, and those real housewives girls are…interesting, to say the least).
So they’re getting back the innocence of the show by tossing in contemporary in week 1? Huh???
I didn’t watch the OTRC interviews, but I thought I read Pure’s writeups where Kym said they had a contemporary dance first? I wonder if this had anything to do with him not returning? I know he was not a fan of all the crazy dance styles they were doing last season. Possibly they disagreed on the direction they want to take the show in now? I feel that Maks was pretty set on keeping it a “ballroom dance” style show, not a Bhangra, Paso/Tango Combo, Old School Hip Hop show…..
I pity any celeb who endures Billy and Kit and their unrelenting intrusiveness. Maks looked extremely squirmy & uncomfortable in this AH segment. I saw in this interview essentially what Ashley L #67 saw and expressed very well,IMO.
Maks isn’t facile at getting his meaning across, understood. I heard his comment about we-all look-for-happiness-and-I’m-still-looking as a last ditch attempt to turn the loathsome duo onto another topic by employing the kind of generalization that’s designed to minimally answer the question and give a kind of finality to the subject – with a subtext of “that’s it – let’s move on now! I won’t be dishing up juicy details or trashing my time with this lady for your satisfaction.”
Maks appeared to be trying to respond in an old-world “gentlemanly” way to persistent questions about not being on the show and the breakup… it was as though he were trying to fulfill his obligation for consenting to the interview and maintain some sense of propriety about DWTS and Peta at the same time. He clearly bridled at some of the questions and the way they were asked, but I didn’t hear any putdowns toward Peta or the show here.
I’ve listened to the AH interview 3 times now, and I’m still waiting to hear the ‘dig’ at Peta. I think sometimes we hear what we want to hear, no matter what has actually been said. I thought he was trying to side-step their rather intrusive and personal questions, but had to give them something. I didn’t hear anything rude or disrespectful to Peta. But maybe I’m hearing what I want to hear. Honestly though, enough already.
Kit: Are you one of those people who can really be friends with your exes? Maks: Well I’m still friends. Kit: And are they still friends? Maks: Well, that’s up to them.
“Well I’m still friends.” – He has a funny way of showing it toward Karina. Hope he does a better job of showing that friendship toward Peta. Just saying!
Hey, you aren’t a mod at this site. WE decide when enough is enough here!! Everyone has a right to their feelings and thoughts which we’ve let everyone do on this. If you’ve had enough, don’t dictate to us and don’t come to this post anymore or read or post in it.
Put me in the camp with Sandra and Faby – I didn’t hear a dig at Peta. What surprises me is that I heard someone who didn’t seem prepared – I mean, what in the Sam Hill did he think they were going to ask him about? He should have been prepared with concise, pat answers about BOTH not being on season 16, AND about Peta…. disappoints me that he appeared to be winging it.
Well, Maks has always been a guy who doesn’t seem to understand that his words and his actions have some sort of consequences attached to them, be it his exes hating him (not saying they do) or not wanting to be friends with him or other people just not liking him very much. He’s never understood that it’s perfectly okay to be blunt and honest…but by the same token, YOU are responsible for how people react to that blunt honesty. He’s never seemed to grasp “Do onto others as you would have them do onto you” or “you reap what you sow” because when someone does respond in kind, he also seems to get mad. That ain’t really how it works.
In spite of my previous comment, which was in response to Meggie, I do agree that I don’t really hear a dig. I have to agree with Sally – he did seem to be winging it and that’s never a good plan. Of course, this is also evidence FOR ME that this development is quite recent and I wonder if he flew to LA expect it to change back again.
I didn’t think what Maks said is wrong about Peta all he said is it didn’t workout and hes still friends with her. Piper Perabo is on my wish list for DWTS she could probably only do a fall season on the show because durring the spring she’s filming Covert Affairs.
I am so looking forward to a more positive environment without Maks around. I really enjoyed him on the show when he was happier, but he’s been quite a sour puss the last few seasons. And I love how Derek says answers question in interviews honestly and to the point yet he remains kind while Maks always tries to spin things his way no matter who is hurt.
Maks is a cool guy, he has a lot of heart maybe too much. He takes things to the heart quick and react to situations emotionally. One thing I can say about him is he always protected and defended his partners.
Gotta agree with Sally and PH just above: Maks acted unprepared and of course, he should have upped his interview skills by now, for the sake of his own career. Besides, he knows what Billy and Kit are like and had to have guessed what they’d want to talk about. (I heartily hope B and K can contain themselves when dealing later with young Lindsay and Zendaya).
I would like to see every one of our pros handle the press/media with class and competence. Because they represent not only themselves, but the show to some extent, and I want DWTS to succeed. And most often, the pros have a role in advocating for their celeb and for the learning/teaching process and the whole dance competition. Some of the pros are quite good at handling the press already.
And for a somewhat shocking or hilarious example, depending on your POV, of how to characterize the show and all the hard work your partner puts in to learn dancing, see Cheryl’s OTRC interview on another thread – where she asserts that 80% of the celeb’s success comes from their packages and post dance interviews with Brooke. LOL if I were a celeb, I’d want to ask for 5 hrs of rehearsal time with Brooke and save my aching feet.
I’m no Maks fan at all, but I also didn’t hear any kind of dig at Peta. Nor did I think there was anything wrong with what he said.
I think he was honest. Many people said from the time they started dating that the relationship was obviously one sided and that Maks didn’t seem to feel the same way about her that she did about him. In my opinion, he just confirmed what was quite obvious to a lot of people.
Oh, my! Got a taste of Maks’s evil fans on Twitter. They’re hating on Derek big time about his opinion on this season’s absences. I made a couple of comments and boy, did I get some nastiness. I’ll never do that again. What horrible people.
I was laughing at the nasty really. How dumb do you have to be to: A) Not see the edit in that video that makes it look like Derek’s talking about Maks when it might not have anything to do with Maks, and; B) Shoot the freakin’ messenger. Even if he WAS talking about Maks, he was repeating what he was told by the producers. Very silly. The only other thing that Derek did was repeat the company line like a good employee – that Maks sitting out is typical for the show, that pros sit out all the time, yadda yadda yadda. Grow up, people. It’s pretty STUPID to blame all your favorite’s problems on one of the other dancers who doesn’t make any of the decisions – especially when, according to MAKS, there is NO problem. He’s been yacking about possibly not being back for seasons, and now he’s gotten his wish.
@faby Lol your comment about rehearsing with Brooke!
The Maks fans bitching at Derek because of Maks not being on this season is about as effective as me screaming at my cat to balance the federal budget…sure, we can both do it all we want, but at the end of the day, it’s not going to improve either of our current situations. Some of Maks’ fans unfortunately seem to share his penchant for misdirected rage – sure, it’s the judges giving Maks a hard time, but that’s somehow Derek’s fault. It may have been the decision of TPTB to not chose Maks as a pro this season, but that’s really Derek’s fault, too. It’s funny…for people who are supposedly such huge fans of Maks, they sure can’t get Derek’s name out of their mouths. And they accuse us of the same – we “can’t stop talking about Maks”. The difference is, we run a blog – it’s our job to talk about this stuff, and we’d be getting bitched at just as much if we DIDN’T report on what was going on with him. And quite frankly, now that Maks has said his piece about being out this season, I’m looking forward to moving on and focusing on pros that are actually on this season
Amen, Court. I’m looking forward to focusing on this season’s pros too. For one thing, I’m curious to learn if Mr. Hunky-Dunky Savchenko has a personality or if he’s just another pretty face.
Msks who? I forgot about him already.
I agree, New season, new pros, new celebs.. You know the old saying, “Out with the Old and In with the New”.
@ Cidra #94
“Mr. Hunky-Dunky”…..perfect moniker!
I hope a lot of these celebs and new pros have a likable personality as well and if they don’t I guess it’s reassuring to know that looks only go so far.
In the OTRC interview Gleb’s full face and full lips reminded me of the beautiful Patrick Swayze circa Dirty Dancing and Ghost.
At the end of Season 15, Maks announced that he would be doing a movie which started filming in March. At the time, I thought that was an odd date because it overlapped with DWTS. I think that reports of “tension” between Maks and ABC are overblown. When TPTB are actually interviewd about Maks they say he is great and, frankly, he is good for business. Like him or hate him, he generates comments from viewers. It’s a reality show after all. They’re selling drama. Just like on your Pure boards here, posts about Maks usually get the most responses. I think what happened is simple. Maks asked for a break. At first they told him no and so he was ready to fulfill his contract obligations. Then over time they secured another tall professional so he was able to take a break. If he wanted to come back for whatever reason I’m sure they would take him back. He may in fact renew his contract if he doesn’t make it out there in the acting/hosting world.
Nice thoughts, Tasha, but the Thursday before the announcement Maks was interviewed by Extra and he fully intended to be on the show this season. I saw it with my own eyes. The movie he spoke about before was supposed to be in May, if I recall.
As for him getting tons of discussion…so did Bristol Palin. And there you go. Posts about Maks get the most responses? Um no. As one who works on this blog I can say this is categorically not true.
Keep dreaming, Tasha.
Does DWTS really need Maks? I don’t think so. They have Val now. Maks is irrelevant, I doubt he will be back on the show at all. At least I hope not!
I love how desperate Maks fans come running in here (right after the Radar Online article, btw) to tell us what posts get what kind of comments and to tell us what we think. What’s REALLY interesting is that they come to this site they hate so much often enough to think they know what’s going on.
Thanks for stopping by!! LOL
I guess they ARE a reflection of their boy.
BTW, contracts for the pros mean nothing – CLEARLY it’s no guarantee he’ll be on the show. LOL.
Tasha, Maks never said he was starting a movie in March. I need to go find the video again, but, I’m pretty sure that Mak’s movie (a Latin Dancing movie) doesn’t start filming until MAY not MARCH!!!! Ok, here’s the link where he talks about the movie and how it starts filming in May….
http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/video?id=8871396