DWTS Season 16, Week 5 – Dancing by the Numbers
Okay, that turned out somewhat better than expected. For all the pimping of Maks, he ended up being a non-event – for me, anyway. It’s rather odd, actually. I guess when you have nothing better to pimp, pimp one of the pro dancers who’s known for being a “bad boy” who’s not on this season. Ummmm…okay. I guess TPTB are just pandering to one group or another all the damn time. For those extremist Maks fans who read this site just so they can complain about us (yeah, it makes no sense to me either), the ratings were up LAST week, so if they are up again this week? Get over yourselves…it’s a trend, not an aberration. Reminds me of the Twihards who claimed they were tanking the MTV Awards this year by not watching…and they were actually UP significantly. Don’t jack with numbers, man. 🙂
Mah goodness, my favorites of the night were Jacoby and Kellie – fantastic. Loved it. Zendaya is being soured for me by the pimping…and seriously? The bent legs, the instability coming out of the turns…if this girl were dancing with Derek she’d be getting hosed for being a ringer. And we’d be getting trolls out the wazoo. But since she’s dancing with Val she essentially has rainbows shooting out her ass. The girl is a good dancer, yes. And I like her as a person. But I have to tell you, I’m seeing a LOT of people in the comments here and on twitter who are getting REALLY good at predicting exactly what will happen. Up for 2 weeks, down for two weeks…to come roaring back to get two tens. Hello – we’ve seen this storyboarding before. I expect someone else will get a perfect 30 next week – either Aly or Kellie, most likely. Because we have to keep it a horse race at all costs, so it can’t be Zendaya. And, as predicted, Zendaya and Val get the encore.
In the “credit where credit is due” department – Kick ass opening dance, Lacey Schwimmer!! Excellent. Loved it. Girlfriend has been honing her group choreo skills over there in Vegas and it’s paid off. MUCH better job than Sharna did last week on the women’s number, although Lacey has the benefit of time and no celeb partner. And Sharna is doing great with Andy.
Anyway….how did our dancers do??
Now, Andy is in serious trouble here. DL has never been in the bottom two, while Andy has been. His only saving grace is Victor…but Victor has a cushion. What does Andy need to be safe? He needs ONE of the following things (substitute DL for his requirements):
– Andy needs ONE more vote per million votes cast than DL, OR;
– Andy needs 14,400 more votes per million votes cast than either Ingo or Victor, OR;
– Andy needs 28,800 more votes per million votes cast than Sean, OR;
– Andy needs 33,500 more votes per million votes cast than Aly, OR;
– Andy needs 38,300 more votes per million votes cast than Jacoby, OR;
– Andy needs 43,100 more votes per million votes cast than Kellie, OR;
– Andy needs 52,700 more votes per million votes cast than Zendaya.
Now, looking at those numbers I’d say that Andy only has a shot at beating DL or Victor – and I’m really not sure about either one. When Andy was beating Victor by one point, Victor couldn’t get the votes to stay out of the bottom two. In week 3, Victor was beating Andy by 5 points and Andy couldn’t muster the points to stay out of the bottom two. It seems to be a case with these two that whoever has the lower score ends up in the bottom two. But it’s week 5 – maybe Andy has built some support?? And, this week, Victor’s lead is only 3 points. Maybe it will be enough.
Anyway, once you get past Andy and DL, either of whom could easily be in the bottom two, you have Ingo and Victor. As I mentioned above, Victor has made several trips to the bottom two. Ingo and Victor both need the same things to be safe – most importantly, Ingo needs ONE more vote than Victor to be safe…so I think he’s safe. But you never know. What does Victor need to be safe? He needs ONE of the following things to happen:
– Victor needs either DL or Andy to NOT get 14,400 more votes per million votes cast than him, OR;
– Victor needs to get ONE more vote per million votes cast than Ingo, OR;
– Victor needs 14,400 more votes per million votes cast than Sean, OR;
– Victor needs 19,200 more votes per million votes cast than Aly, OR;
– Victor needs 24,000 more votes per million votes cast than Jacoby, OR;
– Victor needs 28,800 more votes per million votes cast than Kellie, OR;
– Victor needs 38,300 more votes per million votes cast than Zendaya.
So, if DL stays true to form and stays out of the bottom two, that means that Andy and Victor are the most likely to be there. HOWEVER, I sense somewhat of a shift towards Andy. Could Ingo be in danger? Remember, Ingo and Victor have the same score, for Ingo to actually go home, it would mean Victor got one more vote than him and that both Andy and DL got 14,400 more votes per million votes cast than him. Since Victor has been in the bottom two TWICE, I would not be surprised if that happened. But if Andy is making a comeback and DL is still living on Cheryl’s fanbase, then Ingo could be in jeopardy. That would not shock me at all.
But what about Sean?? He and Ingo are the two middle men who seem to be forgotten between the really good dancers and the crap dancers who have some sort of entertainment factor. For Sean to be safe he needs ONE of the following to happen:
– Sean needs either DL or Andy to NOT get 28,800 more votes per million votes cast, OR;
– Sean need either Ingo or Victor to NOT get 14,400 more votes per million votes cast, OR;
– Sean needs 4,800 more votes per million votes cast than Aly, OR;
– Sean needs 9,600 more votes per million votes cast than Jacoby, OR;
– Sean needs 14,400 more votes per million votes cast than Kellie, OR;
– Sean needs 24,000 more votes per million votes cast than Zendaya.
I don’t see Victor, at least, getting the votes to get past Sean, and I kinda doubt that Andy or DL have that juice either. I guess we will see.
We’re in week 5…and sometimes, this is when we start to get “shocking” eliminations. Will we this week? I tend to think not, but what would be “shocking” at this point? Let’s see what Aly needs to do to be safe. Here’s what would have to happen for Aly to go home (next week I’ll do Kellie or Jacoby):
– Andy and DL would BOTH have to get 33,500 more votes per million votes cast than Aly, AND;
– Victor and Ingo BOTH have to get 19,200 more votes per million votes cast than Aly, AND;
– Sean gets 4,800 more votes per million votes cast than Aly, AND;
– Aly does NOT get the 4,800 more votes per million votes cast she would need to get past Jacoby, AND;
– Aly does NOT get the 9,600 more votes per million votes cast she would need to get past Kellie, AND;
– Aly does not get the 19,200 more votes per million votes cast she would need to get past Zendaya.
Could this happen? I find it to be highly unlikely. She hasn’t really been making much of a splash in this competition, but the girl is still an Olympic Gymnast who won medals just last summer. I don’t see it happening just yet, but when DL, Andy and Victor are gone? There could be trouble. But, I guess that could be true for Kellie and Zendaya as well. Jury is still out on if tweens vote in the same numbers as their older counterparts do.
ANYWAY, I’m thinking tonight could be interesting. I think the bottom two will be one of the following combinations:
Andy/DL
Andy/Victor
Victor/DL
Victor/Ingo
I don’t know why, but something in me is chanting Victor/Ingo in the bottom two with Victor going home. It could totally be wishful thinking on my part. I think it’s more likely to be either:
Andy/DL = DL goes home
Andy/Victor = Andy goes home
Hoping it’s DL that goes home, but I fear for Andy and Victor both. We’ll soon see!!
Great job Zendaya and Val! Sooo happy that the AT got the encore. Well deserved. It was the best dance last night! Best dance, best music, best pros, best choreography, best celebrity, and best wardrobe 😀 Basically had the whole package 😀
Excellent once again, Miss Heidi. Good job and always so fascinating. And now that you calculated what you have, I can see Ingo and Victor in the bottom two as well with Victor going home. In my review, I put DL and Victor in the bottom two with Victor going home, but, I wouldn’t care if it were DL to go home. Whatever the case, just please don’t let it be Andy going home or I will cry. *please DWTS Gods
I’m a Val fan, but I agree w/the Zendaya pimping. She’s a good dancer, but nothing really sticks out to me with her. I liked her first dance the contemporary, but everything else not so much. I’m rooting for Kellie & Derek this season. I loved their dance last night I thought it deserved at least one 10. I like Jacoby too, I was hoping he would get the encore dance because that dance was fun to watch. Who knows he might? But I doubt it Zendaya most likely will.
People still actually WATCH MTV? 😯
I’m crossing my fingers that Andy has gained some momentum in the past few weeks. Mama Spence is visiting her sister & Texas, and last night the two of them went around the house calling in votes for him on any phone line they could find (my uncle runs a business from home, so they have more phones than the average family). Also saw some non-voters (and those who were voting for other couples) toss a few votes his way, too – I’m hoping it adds up and is enough to keep him safe. I’m also hoping that D.L. tumbles into the bottom 2, now that perpetual cannon fodder Lisa is gone…and I’m seriously hoping that those tossing sympathy votes his way have come to their senses and realized he’s not worth it.
I do think Ingo is quickly approaching cannon fodder territory – even seems like some of his fans are tiring of the Debbie Downer act.
I’m not ready to let Andy go yet!! I know his dance kind of sucked last night, but I look forward to his performances each week. There are just too many *meh* couples left in the competition that need to exit before him.
I wish Zendaya and Val would get the axe, but we all know the producers have other plans up their sleeve for these two.
Just crossing my fingers that Andy is safe! I gave him all my votes last night, because he needs to outlast a few of the other couples still left.
I also think Kellie deserved a few 10’s, maybe even one. That was one of Derek’s best Foxtrots in a long time. Just shows when he gets the appropriate music he can do a killer dance and create great choreography. Zendaya and Val were good but her legs were bent as mentioned and if thats the case Kellie deserved the same score!
I also think Victor or DL is going home. But we will see.
I so want Andy to stay! I voted early with email accounts but didn’t vote with my phone till after Andy danced. I was getting a busy signal which I never had before for him. I hope that means people decided to vote after the judges comments. Love his positivity and just desire to do well.
JMO, Who is voting for DL or Victor for that matter? I just cant imagine they have large numbers of fans voting. I know DL has Cheryl but are her hard core fans keeping them in alone? Victor’s rehearsal package was awkward. Him talking about the cheating girlfriend was strange and Lindsay comes off as distant. I was trying to reserve judgement on her before the season started but as each week progresses I find myself saying “she was so great she took a pro spot from Anna and/or Chelsie, really?”
Really hope Andy can make it through.
I have a soft spot for Victor but that pairing just isn’t working imo. I, too, keep wondering why Anna didn’t get a spot vs Lindsay. So my underdog votes went to Andy. I somehow don’t think DL is going anywhere just yet. Or Sean. So bottom 2 Andy and Victor with Victor leaving is my prediction. And I wouldn’t be shocked by an Ingo elimination.
I was looking forward to last night, and for the most part TPTB didn’t totally kill my buzz.
Do you suppose Jacoby blew his shot at the encore by saying he wanted it? After all The Stooges wouldn’t want to appear to cave in to the wishes of a celeb. They like to pretend to be in charge.
It’ll be a disgrace if we lose Andy. I threw my vote support his way this week and hope enough others did the same. From what I can see, DL and Ingo are the two who would like to be *done* with the show. I’d be more than happy to hold the door for DL, and I confess, Ingo’s downer attitude has become a disappointment.
As far as I’m concerend, Victor, DL or Ingo can go this week. I’d like to see Andy stay because he NEEDS this! Sharna has done really well with him I think,
Pissed that Zendaya got the encore. I’m SO tired of her being rammed down our throats.
Honestly Aly is forgettable for me as well. She just doesn’t seem to move well. She’s stiff. They keep dressing her in these matronly costumes. She is a gymnast! Show off her body! A Samba is a sexy dance and that costume looked like it belonged on an 80 yr old!
Jess I thought Anna was horrible with Drew last season, in effort and attitude so I wasn’t surprised they cut her for one season. She seemed genuinely happy yo be back last night though.
I think bottom two will be Andy and Victor. I think it could go either way but going with Andy since he had the lesser performance.
I was so happy to see that Anna was back!! I have only seen her dance with Kellie and Derek so far. She looked exquisite! She is such a beautiful dancer and is so gorgeous.
As much as I don’t care for Lindsay, the teacher, I really don’t see Anna and Victor together either. I do hope that she will be back next season as a pro with a celeb though.
I love Anna on AfterBuzz TV and in the pro dances.
Not sure what happened last year with Drew. I just don’t think they were suited to one another.
@Ashley L (and really anyone else also puzzled by the fact that Lindsay was picked as a pro and not Witney) – From what I understand, Witney was actually filming a movie when the time came to pick pros for this season…so her availability may have been in question. They picked the troupe members much later, and she may have been free at that point. At first I thought I would have rather seen Witney as a pro, but now I’m of the “Do at least a season or two in the troupe before becoming a pro” camp, and think both girls would have been better off just as troupe members. Hell, I even think Gleb should have been in the troupe, and really the only success story that has come out of the new pros this season is Sharna…who had 3 seasons of troupe experience under her belt before getting promoted. If I were TPTB, I’d be a bit embarrassed by the way 2 of the 3 new pros really have not worked out well.
That said – I’m not sure that bringing back the pros that sat this season out is the solution, either. As fun and carefree as Anna came across last night, we have to remember that she really didn’t have much of a stake in how things panned out last night – and thus probably didn’t obsess in the same way she would have if she had a celeb partner. I think many of us have agreed that Anna’s major fault as a pro is that she seems to take the competition just a little too seriously – and that it tends to take a toll on her partners. Hard for me to really give an opinion on Chelsie & Maks returning, just based on last night – Anna kind of stole the show for me, with as great as she was dancing, and Witney far outshined Aly in that samba 🙂
Anna did look especially lovely and is my second favorite female pro after Karina, so I was glad to see her back – her quality of movement is so beautiful. I don’t blame her for last year – she was going through the divorce to Jonathan and I just don’t think she and Drew were a good match. Hopefully she’ll be back next season – let Cheryl take a much-needed break, or Peta. I was also impressed with how good Maks looked. He’s always in shape, but he looks like he’s been hitting the gym even more.
Re: Anna, I also wonder if her divorce from Jonathan played a role in her being “off.” If memory serves (which it admittedly may not), I think the news broke shortly after she and Drew were eliminated. I personally would probably throw myself full-throttle into work, which might drive people around me nuts. Maybe that’s partly why her partnership with Drew seemed so strained? Their pre-season media seemed pretty good, which is kind of weird. Anyhow, I agree with others that it was nice to see her back. She seemed relaxed and happy.
Sorry, Fig. I guess we were posting at the same time. Anyhow, I agree with you. 🙂
I hope that the supporters of Dorothy, Wynnona and Lisa didn’t stop voting and are now on Team Dick after he obviously bonded with all three of them. Also that Jacoby is on Team Dick for sure could help Andy to gain some sympathy votes for this bro’mance. I’ve my fingers crossed for him and Sharna tonight.
I always look forward to reading these numbers, and have no idea how Heidi does them because math is certainly not my strong suit. 🙂
@Sandy I agree I am to the point of wanting Zandaya to get the axe as well and it’s a shame because I probably wouldn’t feel that way if she wasn’t shoved down our throats by TPTB. I know there is no way that she will really happen.
I am still disappointed that she, yet again gets the Encore Dance and Jacoby didn’t. I like it when they give other people a chance and that ballroom exploded when Jacoby finished his dance. Just as Andy got cheated from doing the Encore Dance another time when I thought he should have been the one to perform it. I personally would rather see a dance that moved me in a special way or provided a ton of fun. Just because you get a couple of tens which imo were not warranted shouldn’t mean that you get the automatic Encore. Of course we have to take into account that Max wouldn’t get to perform with his brother, because I am assuming it will be handled the same way as last night. I can fix that by not watching her perform tonight, and may just tune into The Voice during that time.
I have been voting for Andy right along and continued doing so last night. I have read comments by many people saying that they have voted for Andy so I think he may stay. At least I really hope so because he wants this so badly and puts in so much effort. I compare his desire to DL and Ingo and Andy always comes across as wanting it the most. I hear DL say he wants it, but without the intensity that Andy has, and with Ingo using words like skating by that tells me it doesn’t mean as much to him either.
I am guessing that DL and Victor will be bottom two and either could go, but hoping for DL more so. I know Victor probably does not have the fan base, but he imo did a better dance than DL.
Sorry for the typo. Sentence should read there is no way that will really happen and not she will really happen.
@courtney, I also heard interesting comments from Sharna in afterbuzz about Whitney. It gave no insight why they took Lindsay over Anna or Chelsie. But Sharna hinted at some maturity consideration for Witney not being a pro. She mentioned what it was like working with her and Lindsay when she helped Jason on sytycd. Thought it was interesting. It was another reason I am liking Sharna, Honest but not rude, or digs. She and Tristan are more examples why a year or two as troupe is okay.
Thank you for the new pro explanation, Courtney. I watched SYTYCD last season and Witney was my favorite of the two girls, personality and “shine” quality. I also agree that some of the pros not chosen this season needed a break. Haven’t seen much by way of Emma’s personality in the troupe, wonder why she wasn’t upgraded to pro status?
Thank you to all the mods for their great work on this site!
I just read some history on Andy Dick; and in all honesty, I cannot believe that DWTS would risk having someone like him on the show. His past behavior has been deplorable. He has been arrested multiple times on DUI charges, has exposed himself multiple times, has paid fine after fine, been charged with sexual abuse, etc. etc.
This guy REALLY has some serious psychological issues. DWTS should question the need to invite people like him onto the show. What are they thinking?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Dick
Geez Magnolia, you must be the perfect person, hmmm?? He’s trying to make a go of it again and has been sober for quite some time. I’m giving him a chance because I would want the same if I had to start over after an addiction…would you if it were you? I admire him so much for making an honest effort at it all, working hard, and not letting anyone who is judgemental bring him down.
I am still baffled as to why it is ok for the judges to speak to Andy the way they did last night but not D.L.?
I really enjoyed Jacoby and his dance. Did anyone see Derek’s picture of him dancing with the elderly woman in the wheelchair. <3
I'm disappointed Zendaya got the encore. I hope it is a false rumor but most likely not.:) Spread the love some. All I'm saying.
I'm not sure how I am feeling about this season. Certain fans of certain celebrities are kind of putting me off it. The sad thing is Zendaya really had a chance before they started (over) pimping her.
It is very hard to have an intelligent conversation with someone that cannot get your view point. What really gets me is their argument is if she didn't have it in the bag the judges wouldn't be the way they are with her. It makes me feel bad for Kellie because she is a good dancer. I'm rooting for Andy, Jacoby and her. I love how Jacoby has everyone photo bombing now.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank the mods for putting up with others (I'll call it unfriendliness) to make this such a friendly, well conversed place to chat and visit.
Hoping Andy is safe and D.L. goes home. Bad dancing I can deal with but bad dancing and a bad attitude, no.
Enjoy the results show everyone. Happy dancing. 🙂
Since Zendaya and Val have the encore, that means I won’t tune in until at least 8:15 or 8:20. Knew they were going to get the encore. That was so obvious. Should’ve been Kellie or Jacoby. Hmm. I have a feeling I’m going to be saying that line throughout the rest of the season.
@Magnolia, the show has given others with a questionable past a chance on this show, and most of them were able to show another side, one that people came to love!
Addiction can be very troubling, and it has made people do some awful stuff… But when it’s time to clean themselves up, they do deserve the chance to make things right.
Andy has earned a second chance.
@Fancy, I hope you changed your mind! 🙂
Obviously this is only a small sample size, but I partied with Andy Dick in Vegas and while he was really drunk and quite amorous, he was never disrespectful or gross and really most of his existence is centered around making people laugh – and that was when he was still a roaring drunk and druggie. Just my own experience, he was mostly just a threat to himself and obviously has attempted to change this.
To everyone who thinks that I’m being self-righteous and judgmental about Andy…..how would you feel if he had groped your daughter, sister or best friend? Is it okay for men (drunk, doped up or not) to make inappropriate gestures towards teenagers and women? Is public indecency appropriate? Even his t-shirt, Team #Dick, along with his other remarks, is not necessary.
People deserve a second chance, but this guy was dealing with troubling issues last year. He needs to prove himself before someone hires him for six-figures. He doesn’t need dance lessons – he needs counseling. This culture spends too much time excusing illegal and inappropriate behavior.
Magnolia,
You’re about 6 weeks late. The outrage over the casting of Andy already happened. If you look at postings, even on this site, you’ll see that people shared similar concerns. However, he has danced his way into all of our hearts. Every week he is honest, vulnerable and genuine about his struggles and his breakthroughs. You can tell he’s having the time of his life — being on the show means a lot to him. He’s had counseling/therapy, but he actually said (at some point during the season) that dancing has been the best form of therapy. He was approached to do this show many seasons ago, but he didn’t agree to do it until he thought he was in a place he could handle it.
You may not change your mind – you totally have the right to your opinion. I just wanted to catch you up.
Well said Lori, Fig, and Les!!!
Magnolia, this show is about “real life journeys” as much as it is dancing! So, why not give a former alcoholic a chance who HAS and continues every day to change and make his life better?!!! And sorry, but, Andy has already had counseling and been alcoholc free for some time. He’s also getting counseling right now by doing DWTS.
Alcoholism is a disease, a demon that takes over your mind, body, and soul, it invades your everyday existence.
In my eyes Andy is a Hero… He makes no excuses, he has been open and honest since the beginning, this show has been a lifesaving opportunity, and he is so grateful for this, and in return, he brings his JOY to the dancefloor each and every week.
I am happy and honored to take this journey along with Sharna and Andy. And I hope that his story might be able to help someone that is struggling with demons as well.
On a lighter note, I am excited about the Team dances. Did I read above that Kellie and Derek do have the Samba? I love the song “Superstition”, I am sure the house will be up on their feet rocking to that tune.
Honestly, I’m more than a little confused as to where all of this sudden outrage over Andy is coming from, Magnolia. You haven’t posted here in quite awhile, and then you suddenly drop in to educate all of us on the evils of Andy Dick…5 weeks into the season??? As les said, you’re about 6 weeks late on that one – most of us have moved on and are now Andy supporters. We aren’t excusing “illegal & inappropriate behavior” – we’re acknowledging that people can atone for them, move past them, and get to a healthy place. God forbid we give him a second chance!!! Where is this sudden puritanical crusade against his former indiscretions and the use of his last name (and yes, it’s his real last name – so I see no issue with him using it as he sees fit) coming from? And why is it directed at us? I would have expected this out of a garden-variety troll, but not you, Magnolia – is this just the result of boredom because Tristan got eliminated so early? Because this is completely out of left-field, IMO… 😯
Oh how cute – Cindy Jones & bev morris are the same damn troll. More trashcan fodder…
Good god, cindy/bev, now you’re pretending to be a “happily married man” named trey who has a man crush on Maks? This is getting pathetic. You’re getting trashed because you’re a) sock puppeting, which is both deceptive and a form of trolling, and b) taking swipes at this site/other posters, which is ENTIRELY different than stating your opinion on the show. Tell us why you like Maks/Val – you don’t need to bring us or our opinions into it. The fact that you can’t make that distinction is sickening.
I have enjoyed Andy up until this week. His Waltz last week made me get tears in my eyes. Reminded me a lot of Jerry Springer when he danced the Waltz with Kym for his daughter who was getting married. Both of them kind of lost steam after their Waltz. Andy seems like he is really trying and wants to do a good job, but now there are others from whom I would rather see more dancing. I would like for Andy to stay and be an interviewer, like Carson Kresley did a few seasons ago. I think he could pull it off.
I haven’t posted yet this season, because, well, I swore off the show after what TPTB did to Apolo and Shawn. I’d watch, but not care, and *certainly* not vote!
HOWEVER – they have hooked me again with Andy’s storyline! Is his history full of inappropriate actions? Yes. Has he owned those inappropriate actions as *being* inappropriate and for which he now has genuine remorse? From what we can see, YES!
I have a personal connection to his storyline because my brother is a recovering alcoholic. At one point he was so bad everyone in my immediate family told his wife that we would completely support her if she wanted to leave him. She said that wasn’t what marraige was about (loved her!), stuck it out, and eventually my brother realized his problem, was able to find himself again and accept the help he needed to live without the booze each day. Every day. For over 10 years now. He was able to be there to support his wife as she lost her battle with cancer, has been able to mend his relationship with his daughter, and find love and true happiness with a good woman for the 2nd time in his life.
So yeah. Totally invested in the 2nd chance storyline. Loving Andy’s spirit and outlook and support his efforts at making right what he did wrong.
Back to lurking… =D
I’m confused… I am reading comments about Zendaya/Val getting the encore, but that is not what I saw last night!!
Hey guys (and girls) – I’m not trying to be self-righteous nor am I trying to be mean-spirited towards Andy; but in all honesty, I had not read his “rap sheet” until the other night. I had always heard that he had substance abuse problems, but did not realize just how bad it was. That’s why I’m late to the party on this one!
For the record, we’ve had a friend and a family member who have struggled with alcoholism; and I can tell you first-hand, it takes a while for people to overcome these demons. Sometimes it takes a life-altering experience for them to wake up to their destructive ways.
On top of this, I have lost three cousins over the years who were hit and instantly killed by drunk drivers. Two of them were children on the way home from fishing and the other was an older cousin who was driving down the road with his daughter. So, my tolerance for substance abuse is somewhat lacking.
The thing that bothered me the most were Andy’s charges of groping and indecent exposure. That takes on a whole new set of problems…..That’s why I was so surprised that ABC took on someone who would be considered “high-risk” in their behavior.
I truly hope that he can overcome his problems; consequently, if DWTS and the Cha-Cha helps him to work through his issues, that’s even better. The main reason I brought up his “last name” jokes is because there are families and children watching.
Yes, I may sound as though I’m living on Walton’s Mountain, but it’s in the best interest of ABC to “keep it clean”. There’s so little worth watching on TV anymore, and it has been a pleasure to watch an entertaining dance contest. Plus, I do enjoy the commentary and comments on this blog.
I wasn’t offended by Andy’s last name “joke”. Colour me stupid, but to me it was like saying PicklerHough. Hopefully, the children watching are as naive as I am! I have no idea why Brooke told Andy that he couldn’t say that. He did say PickleR with an R, right?
I think it is safe to say we can thank sweet baby Jesus that his last name isn’t Hancock then. 🙂
I think DWTS dropped the family viewing ball when Val stripped down to a speedo. Unless anyone else can think of something before that?
LOL Cher! Both good points!
@Meggie – Because Brooke is completely inept as a host and couldn’t think of anything else to say. 🙂 And yes, he did say “PicklerDick”. Kellie, Derek, Sharna, & Andy all seemed to get kick out of it; Brooke said “You can’t say that!” but was laughing herself; Zendaya & Val chuckled, shook their heads, and went back to looking stern and disapproving.
@Anne – DWTSGossip originally reported that Zendaya & Val got the encore for last night’s results show – this was announced yesterday morning. However, we think the DancingABC Twitter account may have gotten inundated with angry tweets about Zendaya getting a 2nd encore, because then Jacoby somehow got it last night, and Len even made a point of mentioning Zendaya getting 10’s before announcing Jacoby as the encore. DWTSGossip is usually pretty on-point with her intel – so we think something changed throughout the course of the day. Are you less confused now?
@Cher – My delicate sensibilities were quite disturbed by the sight of Florence Henderson’s orthopedic bra in season 11 😉
DWTSGossip said Zen was getting the encore, but we’re thinking they made a change and gave it to Jacoby. They’ve done it before, after all.
Not only is DWTSGossip usually on point, but we know from our own sources that they make changes ALL THE TIME.
PH: DWTSGossip said Zen was getting the encore, but we’re thinking they made a change and gave it to Jacoby. They’ve done it before, after all.
Do you think that’s why Val looked so annoyed when he was interviewed with Z., Kellie and Derek on the result show???? Or is it just me who thinks he looked put out by something?
@Meggie I think Val was just trying to catch his breathe as he had just finished dancing the bumper with Oksana. JMO
@Meggie
I heard he apparently hurt his back. Plus the little blurb with Maks on Tuesday kind of confirmed it. To give him the benefit of a doubt he might just be in pain.
Pain has the tendency of making you piotchy.
Either that or he’s just being an ass.
You never know with Val.
@Courtney
Dang girl, I had that image erased from my mind. I completely forgot about that. The show is just one big wardrobe malfunction waiting to happen.
Well I do feel sorry about his back, and if that’s the case, maybe that’s why they changed the encore dance.
I doubt Val having a back pain would stop him from doing an encore….didn’t Maks say last season that Tony would never sit out and let Melissa down? (Swip at DH sitting out for paso/tango fusion dance).
Fans were tweeting and on facebook they said they were emailing ABC about pimping Zendaya, etc. Baby who cries the loudest gets picked up..so they say lol.
#48 Meggie, Perhaps Val looked that way because he was pooping himself since he has to face Derek again in a team dance and Team Gangham style was nothing to brag about 🙂
I lay the majority of the blame of GS on Maks. The rest can be divided up between Gilles for picking it in the first place and the other pros for not stepping up and saying it was not a good routine. You have to admit it was funny to watch in a train wreck sort of way.
@Sheery
I don’t think the encore had anything to do with Val’s back. I really do believe Jacoby got the encore because the power of the people used Twitter for the use of good instead of evil this week so the dance fairies pick him.
I got a bad feeling the rest of the season is going to be played Derek vs. Val. I really hope they don’t go down that rabbit hole.
Cher, they can try to play it that way, but unlike the C bros, Derek don’t play that way. I think there is hope for Val, but he has to be careful because comments like “I don’t think the pros should be pitted against each other” can be read as arrogant and condescending. I gave him the benefit of the doubt but a lot of people did see it that way.
Why are people so against Zendaya? Confuused.
I have nothing against Z. personally, but what I don’t like is the way ABC has propped her up in many ways. i.e. She always dances in the second half of the show; she has the most twitter followers, so all of a sudden ABC wants to have contests based on twitter votes. She doesn’t need it! She’s a great dancer. They did the same thing with William, because they wanted to make him a big ABC star too (and he did need the help!). There is speculation that Z. was suppose to get the encore again on Monday. I’m tired of her already.
If Derek was her partner, all we would hear is what a big ringer Z. is with her choreographed dances on her Disney show each week. Hip hop, yes, but still choreography! Not hearing too much about that though.
I don’t think anyone hates her but people don’t like being force-fed Zendaya. People don’t like the advantages she’s being given (suddenly twitter is relevant to the outcome when she has millions more followers than any of her competitors). She’s a good dancer so I don’t know why TPTB feel the need to shove her down our throats, but it’s turned me off.
And it has nothing to do with her not being Derek’s partner. I’m a fan of Derek, but not a mega-fan. He’s not the reason I watch the show. If you think there’s Zendaya hate now, it’s nothing to the hate she would be getting if she were Derek’s partner. If she were Derek’s partner many of the same people praising her to high heaven now would be ripping her apart for being a ringer.
Thanks Nancy & Meggie for your articulate responses to sunshinekid & Sandra77…unfortunately, the latter has proven herself time & again to be little more than a Chmerkovskiy troll who simply cannot resist the urge to pop in occasionally and look down her nose at the rest of us who dare to like a pro whose last name isn’t Chmerkovskiy. And I doubt sunshinekid is “confuused” about why some of us aren’t all that thrilled w/Zendaya – more likely, he/she just doesn’t like it, & is trying to play innocent while very subtly igniting an argument. Guess the point I’m trying to make is “beware of trolls” – someone who was genuinely trying to join the discussion wouldn’t have made their first statement about what everyone else was saying & imply that they were wrong because of it. Just don’t want you well-spoken ladies wasting your wise words on someone who can’t comprehend much more than “ZOMG Zendaya & Val RULZ!!!! :-):-):-) #valdaya #mbtwinners #pointlesshashtag <3<3<3 #derricknkelleesuck lolz"
LOL, Courtney! Should have known better! Pretty sure that Nancy and I got the last word, though, as opposed to it going to the two charming trolls you mentioned. That’s some consolation! I see their comments have disappeared into thin air. 😉
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