DWTS 16, Week 8 – Power Rankings
Well, this is probably going to be a pretty short ranking, because besides nursing a killer migraine…tonight just kind of sucked.
Ballroom round? Too short, and pretty ho-hum. Trio round? Only one real standout, a couple that were so-so, and the rest were fails. And of course, Len continues to be a horrible human being. I miss Andy more than I thought 🙁 Let’s get this over with…
1.) Zendaya & Val – First off, I probably would have picked a different song for their foxtrot – the fact that it’s a capella made it feel a bit thin & boring. On top of that, it seemed like it took a little too long to get into the dance, and what I saw, while pleasant to watch, didn’t really excite me. As for their salsa trio – where was the salsa? I saw a lot of vaguely hip-hoppy stuff and a lot of side-by-side actions, but very little interaction between Zendaya herself and the two guys she was supposed to be dancing with. And I generally just found some of the choreography to be a bit odd – once again, rather stop-and-go. It wasn’t a bad dance, per se, but I would dispute the fact that it was a salsa and call attention to the fact that the bulk of it was done individually, as opposed to in couples. Hell, salsa’s even one of the easier dances to do with 3 people…would it really have been that hard to do a bit more work in-hold? Oh well…they’ve got a 58, so they don’t even have to worry about it…
2.) Kellie & Derek – I feel like they were the only couple tonight that really put a ton of thought into both of their performances, and even figured out a clever way to link the two together. The Viennese waltz was very pretty, though I would have liked a little bit more of it to be in-hold, because Kellie can handle it; the paso trio was the only dance that really stuck out in my mind tonight, because it was so exciting to watch and it was the only one that actually seemed to work WITH the props they chose, as opposed to just having them there (like several other couples). Len’s score AND his comment to Bruno about having “something up his ass”? Uncalled for, inappropriate, and I’m just done with that SOB. If Fox can issue an apology for Steve Tyler’s behavior on Idol, then they can certainly issue one for Len’s behavior on DWTS. Dude is seriously crossing the line.
3.) Aly & Mark – Man, they’re REALLY trying to make Aly “happen”, aren’t they? Yes, she has grown – somewhat – in her time on DWTS, but I still find her a bit underwhelming to watch. I actually agreed with (ack) Carrie Ann about her Argentine tango – for as acrobatic & flexible as Aly is, her leg lines seemed a little…weak. I don’t think it was 29-worthy – maybe 27-worthy. As for the jive trio – it wasn’t bad, but it was just so BLAND. Part of it was Aly, but I really just found the choreography to be a bit blah as well – Mark seemed to be erring on the side of safe again. I have to wonder if she’s not getting the votes – because they seem to be scoring her awfully kindly these days.
4.) Jacoby & Karina – The Viennese waltz was better than I expected, though not his best dance. Liked the drama of it, but I thought it could be a bit neater. Actually enjoyed their paso trio with Cheryl, but I feel like the only real problem seemed to be that there was just so much choreography jam-packed into that routine that Jacoby got a little distracted…which could explain why he just kind of flung Cheryl off to the side. I think they just got so caught up trying to show everything that Jacoby was capable of doing that they may have overwhelmed him. But overall, I thought he did pretty well with both of his dances tonight…let’s hope that translates into safety. Not sure what to think after he ended up in jeopardy last week…
5.) Ingo & Kym – Eee gad…this partnership really kind of imploded this week, didn’t it? Kym seems like she’s at her wits end, and Ingo got really, really whiny this time around – that package did not do them any favors. For all the fussing that they were doing, I think their foxtrot turned out halfway-ok…it was definitely better than Sean’s tango, despite a few little stutters. The jive trio was basically a dud – you could tell the ladies did everything they could to ensure that Ingo was moving as minimally as possible during that dance, as they did most of the heavy-duty dancing; there was also a rather prolonged entry & exit, perhaps to cut back on the time that Ingo was actually dancing. I think they’re definitely bottom 2 fodder tomorrow night, and might even end up going home. They’re just getting hard to watch…
6.) Sean & Peta – Well, I think Sean is probably the weakest dancer left, and I think the judges made clear that it’s Sean they want gone tomorrow night. The tango felt stompy & awkward, and I could tell that Peta was doing a good deal of backleading in that one. Jazz trio? Despite having Sharna there to at least offer up some good advice, I think Sean’s trio was probably the biggest fail of the evening. Like Ingo’s trio, it seemed like they tried to put the ladies front & center whenever they could, and had them doing most of the real moving…although I feel like there was even less actual dancing in this dance than Ingo’s, and Sean was even more awkward attempting some of the jazz steps than Ingo was with the jive steps. I was pretty much done with Shawn a few weeks ago, and I’m definitely ready to see him go now…the question is: will it be him, or Ingo?
So was anyone else let down by this week’s dances? Go ahead and sound off, I need to lie down…
Always welcome your rankings because you know ballroom. Thought I was the only one who thought Zendaya’s salsa lacked salsa. Also it was just three people dancing alone. Preview of her hip hop I guess
I’m with you, Court! Bored to tears tonight! Can Len really be that delusional or is he just following instructions from TPTB??? A 7 for Kellie’s trio dance??? Madness!
I want to start by saying that I enjoyed tonight’s show. No, the dances weren’t great for the most part, but I was entertained. And after the day I had at work, it was a welcome diversion.
And then Len had his breakdown on national tv. He should be embarrassed by the way he acted and he should give Kellie, Derek and Tristan an apology tomorrow night. He’s shown his displeasure over dances before, but tonight he crossed a line.
Was he so upset because Derek had an idea that was outside his precious box? I thought it was amazing how he tied the two dances together. Some of the other pros should take lessons from him. Stop being afraid to try something new, stop trying to plan your choreography around what Len will like. Do what you like and what’s best for your partner. Len is going to say and do whatever he wants anyway.
Now that I’m done ranting, I will again say I enjoyed tonight’s show. I liked seeing Tristan, and I’m hoping Henri gets to be a pro next season. He can take Val’s place and then we can (hopefully) be done with both the C brothers.
All I want to say about Kellie and Derek is job well done.
Ingo’s tired? So is everyone else. But he’s just so forgettable and boring.
Sean, hmmm. Along with Ingo, I didn’t like his dances. His trio was stiff and awkward and as he said in his package, he just kind of stands around and let’s Kym and Lindsey do the dancing. Time to go.
Other than that, I don’t have much to say about the others.
Bottom two have to be Ingo and Sean and I really don’t care who goes, but I’m thinking it will be Sean.
Sorry about your headache Court! I’m currently in Twitter jail because I obviously RT’d too many times about the Twitter dance vote for next week.
I think Kellie and Derek were better than Zendaya and Val. I liked Z’s foxtrot but thought their Trio Salsa looked more like a hip hop…not enough hip action there for me.
I LOVE how Derek sequed the VW into the Paso! Brilliant! Len was way ridiculous and ABC DOES need to issue an apology. Poor Kellie looked scared when Len went off! I thought she was gonna cry!
I really don’t think Jacoby needed to jump over Karina and Cheryl again. That move is gettin old…save it for the Freestyle! I thought he did a good job in his Paso Trio and was slightly underscored.
Also think Ingo was overscored, as well as Aly. She was off time a few times but at least Mark had her dressed more sexy.
I thought Sean did horribly. He needs to go. Buh bye!!
Doing this for us when you have a migraine is going above and beyond…Thanks, Court, take some meds, rest, and feel better.
I said I wasn’t going to watch, and then I did. Stupid me. Given the way this season is going, I should have known better.
Now that Andy is gone, I’m on team Jacoby, but really, Kellie, Derek and Trisan’s paso? The most amazing dance of the night. What the hell was Len smoking? A 7? A meltdown? The man needs to retire. He more than crossed a line tonight.
And dear Carrie Ann’s comment to Ingo that he brought back the fun and entertainment that left when Andy left? Nice try at redemption, chick but no one’s buying it.
No way was Zendaya’s trio worth a 30, and they sure as hell are pumping up Aly for some reason.
I don’t care whether it’s Sean or Ingo at this point although I was done with Sean weeks ago. I just hope it’s not Jacoby or Kellie because of Len’s score.
I really think that there was absolutely no truth to Len going off on Kellie/Derek’s trio- that was staged to the max! Maybe they needed to make sure Kellie’s fans weren’t going to be complacent after having the week off last week from the immunity, so Len had to be completely over the top to rile them up. I mean after weeks of really enjoying Kellie and Derek he all of a sudden has 3 point difference between his points and Carrie Ann and Bruno in the opposite direction… smells really fishy to me. Also this is the 3rd season in a row where Len lowballed a Derek trio- that can’t be a coincidence!
On the the other hand, I really enjoyed both of Zendaya’s dances tonight – I thought they were both just so cute and I love the little looks between her and Val during the dances! Also enjoyed Jacoby and Karina’s waltz and Aly’s trio as well.
Finally, Sean deserved a 17- that dance sucked something awful!
Oh man, I just wanted to scream as soon as Len started yammering away about how supposedly horrific Kellie’s Paso was! Is he serious?!?! Well excuse Derek for actually utilizing the resources at his disposal to create such an amazingly awesome and unique Paso! Not to mention that (maybe with the exception of Zendaya’s) Kellie is the only one that looked so great and nearly effortless in her dancing compared to the others. It’s fine if Len didn’t think it included every itty bitty move he would’ve liked to see, but come on! That was not even remotely close to be worth the score Sean received! Not to mention that even if he didn’t like Derek’s concept, THAT in itself is not what he’s supposed to be judging in the first place!
…Wow, I really ranted there. I apologize profusely for that, but I needed to get that off my chest.
I watched Kellie & Derek’s Viennese Waltz again and I think Len is seeing things. Not enough heel leads? The skirt was long & the smoke was high – how could he see her feet? His tirade for that magnificent Paso was totally uncalled for. Would love to hear what he says to Derek after this one. For Len to complain about the music is crazy since the music is given to them. Len would be happy if it all went back to season 3. But we are spoiled now with the amazing choreography by Derek Hough and want to see his masterpieces.
Actually didn’t hate Zendaya and Vals for the first time this week. Doesn’t mean that I liked it though. I thought she did well with her dances but her trio felt like hip hop with some hip moving rather than salsa.
Loved Kellie and Dereks dances and the connection between the two. The costume change and mirror breaking was awesome. I only wish Tristan was in it a bit more. Yes, the 7 is ridiculous and almost laughable at this point.
Really like Jacoby and Karina’s waltz, not a huge fan of the paso…maybe that’s just because I’m not a huge fan of Cheryl though.
Aly and Mark are way overscored in my mind. Am I the only one that thinks her footwork is extremely off? I feel like I’m watching a different dance because it just doesn’t seem to be clean.
Ingo and Kym were just blah. Thought the trio was a hot mess but probably the best they could get him to do. I honestly don’t even remember what his first dance was which goes to show how much I remember about him.
Sean and Peta were pretty crappy tonight. Saw him get off time for a lot of it all. I think I’m realizing that it’s not Sean that I dislike, just Peta a lot. If he could have kept up I would have liked the jazz a lot more. Saw a lot of Sharna choreo in there which I of course love.
Overall blah night for me. I don’t see myself going back and watching a lot. I think they judges are pretty much forcing Sean out tonight as well.
Court, put a damp washcloth in the freezer and let it get cold then lay in a dark room with it over your eyes. Drinking a few sips of Coke helps me too. My endometriosis makes me get killer migraines sometimes so I fell ya. Thank you for writing this up while feeling crappy. 🙂 It is much appreciated. Feel better.
Val has got to do something about Zendaya’s legs. Bambi’s were steadier when he first learned to walk. There is just an offness to them. Val also needs to make up his mind. Does he want to be age appropriate around Zendaya or does age not matter? Can’t have it both ways.
I think Kym is over Ingo and just wants to be gone. I get such a “I don’t awnt to be around this guy anymore” vibe from her now.
Sean, Sean, Sean….long due man, long overdue.
Le sigh. I’m gonna go watch Kellie’s threesome with Derek and Tristan again.
And as a side note, I think this is my least favorite of the twitter voting. I don’t even care who dances what, including my favorite. Maybe that’s because it’s Kellie and Derek and I know he’ll create something good no matter what and I’d rather just spend my time voting.
And sure…let’s just basically give hip hop to the PROFESSIONAL hip hop dancer. They know she’ll get it because she wins everything related to twitter. Gosh it makes me so angry.
WOW!!!!! Len has lost it. I’m not even there and I cringed.
Word – Cindy
On to the dances:
Aly bores me
I liked Zendaya’s Foxtrot but her Salsa was too much like Hip Hop
Jacoby I enjoyed, nothing earth shattering but enjoyable. Really want to see what he can do with no rules.
Ingo was meh, but I am voting for him in the hope I’ll get rid of Sean
Sean – please go away.
Kellie AMAZING. Derek does such phenomenal choreography and Kellie handles it so well.
And is evil Tristan total hot or what??
Still shocked over Len’s outburst.
If ABC issues an apology from Len, I think it should be not only to Kellie, Derek, and Tristan, but to Andy and Sharna as well. And one from Bruno. With the exception of last week I don’t think Carrie Ann was too terrible with her critiques to Andy.
The one thing that kind of bugged me about
Aly’s trio was I found it quite flat footed. I don’t have any knowledge about jive other than what I’ve kind of learned from watching. Correct me if I’m wrong. The jive is supposed to be on the balls of your foot, with a certain bounce. I never really saw that from Aly.
At first I thought it was a ploy for ratings but Bruno seemed genuinely upset at Len. Really a 7? The same as Sean’s messes? I think she’ll be fine but a 7 is a bit of a lowball.
Derek is light years ahead..he is using production now to create dances that are memorable- just always creating “firsts”. Funny Len didn’t like that Paso bc it had an uncanny resemblance to Maria’s..a lot of the steps from hers were in Kellies tonight and he loved Maria’s. his rant tonight was a designed rant..I can see his bluff from far away now. That while dance was intense and by far the stand out of the night.
Tonight, it’s like Len went out of the way to suck the life out of the ballroom with his absolutely uncalled for comments and scoring of Kellie, Derek, and Tristan’s dance.
Kellie doesn’t know this move from that move in a Paso Doble, but she absolutely danced to perfection the choreography she was given. Instead of being caught up in the fantastic energy of the crowd, she may be saying, “what argument did I step in the middle of”? And they wonder why they have a hard time getting celebrities?
Len’s rant and score were just a sad reflection of what this show has become. And lest we forget, he did the same thing to Derek and Shaun last year (Mark as third) on the samba, a seven to Carrie Ann’s ten and Bruno’s nine.
PH, can you enlighten us as to the animosity he has towards Derek – one of the best dancers and choreographers in the world? Is it jealousy that Derek is far better than he ever was? Is it strictly stupid scripting on the part of TPTB? What is going on?!
When at the end of a show my wife and I are wondering why we even bothered taking the time to watch it, the producers should be concerned, because that’s when people stop watching for good.
This is being written before I’ve even looked for Courtney’s Power Rankings, so she may answer some of my queries, but at this point I can only wonder.
And while we thought that Zendaya’s trio was very well done, it did not come close to the power and intensity and sheer entertainment of Kellie’s.
I’m in like, full on rage mode right now.
Zendaya & Val:
Foxtrot – I liked it, actually. I thought it was cute, and light. Not sure it was worth a 10, but I think it was definitely better than what we were expecting from her. Not crazy about her dress either. Haha!
Salsa – Again, I liked it. I was thinking that Len was gonna call her out for the hip-hop-y stuff going one, but I did like it. No, there wasn’t a lot of trio stuff going on, so maybe it wasn’t worthy of a 30, but I’m not upset. Didn’t like this outfit either. She’s definitely getting Hip Hop too.
Sean & Peta:
Tango – Ugh. He needs to go.
Jazz – Ugh. He needs to go.
Jacoby & Karina:
Viennese Waltz – I liked it. I thought Carrie Ann was gonna score with her va-jay and give him a 10, but I’m surprised that she didn’t. It was a decent dance, but his hold looked odd to me. Still a nice dance.
Paso – Okay…I loved this dance. I thought it was Jacoby’s best dance. It wasn’t the best Paso I’ve ever seen, but it was a really nice performance for Jacoby, I thought. I hope he gets the Lindy Hop.
Ingo & Kym:
Foxtrot – I thought it was nice. One of his better dances, but I still don’t care for him. I think that package did some damage for him.
Jive – Oh, God. Can we eliminate Ingo with Sean tomorrow night?
Kellie & Derek:
Viennese Waltz – UGH. Love, love, loved this Waltz. It was beautiful, elegant and everything I wanted from Kellie, and more. I thought this was pretty darn good and should have had a 30.
Paso Doble – OH MY GOD. I CAN’T EVEN RIGHT NOW. If Zendaya got a 30, then this should have been a 40. ASDLKFAJSDLKFSDKJHFASKDJH!!!!!! LEN! RETHINK YOUR LIFE CHOICES RIGHT NOW! I loved the concept of these two dances. Derek, bravo. PLEASE! Let them have the Charleston!!!!
Aly & Mark:
Argentine Tango – I think I saw bent legs. And this is a big thing for me because I never notice things like this. It should have been a 27, I thought as well. It was good, but not Aly’s best.
Jive – Wow…I called the score right earlier today, but thinking about it, it wasn’t even worth that. Despite the energy of this song, I thought Aly was moving really slowly. Maybe 25 or 26 really.
Well all I have to say is Len is jerk…Len should issue an apology…but I think TPTB put him up to it… Derek took it well, started out laughing, but then I think he realized this wasn’t staged but real and his expression changed. This show is quickly getting to be no fun…they need new judges. Even I could tell there was little Salsa in Zendaya’s dance and then Len has the audacity to tell that to Derek…at least I could tell that it was a Paso Doble…there was no doubt….shame on you Len.
I forgot: Does ANYONE know he name of Kellie’s Paso song? Because I’ve heard it before, and it’s going to drive my crazy if I can’t find out the name of it.
I think Len low-balled Kellie and Derek to offset the inevitable 10s from CAI and Bruno. I mean, if we can predict their scores from a mile away, surely he can, too, from 6 inches away. Was that 7 uncalled for? Yes. But I don’t think that’s the score he would’ve given if he didn’t expect the 10s. That being said, I do agree that the theatrics were a bit distracting – especially the strobe lights and the smoke that covered their feet most of the time.
Zendaya & Val – the foxtrot was cute (though that dress hurt my heart) but took a LONG time to get started. And that “salsa” was a mashup of hip hop with an iota of samba. And UGH freaking sneakers again!!
Kellie & Derek – very pretty VWaltz, Derek did a great job bringing the emotion out of Kellie. The paso was absolutely spectacular. Kellie got a little stiff and didn’t completely connect – she ALMOST had it – but she danced it beautifully. Len’s behavior was a. staged, b. uncalled for, c. unnecessary. There was as much content in that paso as there was her samba. Derek knew what the wanker was going to say just as well as we all did, because he had the same reaction I did – “LMFAOOOOO!”
Jacoby & Karina – cute vwaltz, I loved what they did with it (but wished K had picked a different color for her dress, it looked almost identical to her tango dress last season). I ADORED the trio. (Karina’s dress was stunning!) Jam packed with content and the power that Jacoby danced with was amazing! I think they underscored the paso just a point or two.
Aly & Mark – yep, they are trying SO hard to make her “happen”. AT was ok, but she doesn’t have the extension of the legs that are necessary for this dance style, and she’s still kind of clumsy when she moves. The jive, I did like – but *manipulation alert* there was hardly any jive content in it at all, and Len didn’t say a DAMN thing.
Ingo & Kym – what’d they do again? I just remember the band butchering one of my favorite jive songs and the girls trying SO hard to make it LOOK like he was moving when he didn’t. It was unpleasant to see such a grown-ass man whining the way he was.
Sean & Peta – what’d they dance, the tango? Erm. All I remember is, it didn’t look very good. And the trio? Sean’s weird. He says he’s such a virgin, but he said “I like the idea of dancing with two women” and it sounded really perverse…and kinda creepy…and that dance was a FAIL. I glued my eyes to Sharna the whole time, but even the amazing Sharna couldn’t camouflage the fact that whenever Peta’s in charge, things just become trashy.
I hope Sean, Ingo, Zendaya, Aly, and Len go home tomorrow. For no other reason than this: then the show can just be FUN.
Actually, I think Len is playing a role or fulfilling some requirements the producers have. I don’t think he really felt any of that at all. Based on numerous things that Derek has said, I think Len actually loves Derek a bit too much and over compensates. And no, I don’t mean in “that way”.
I mean, doesn’t that temper tantrum seem totally over the top and just ridiculous – exactly what you expect out of reality TV programming.
Wow, what a night and more entertaining than last week…
Kellie and Derek (and Tristan) – Wow, these two are from another world. Kellie just keeps getting better and better and taking it a level up. Their first dance was just exquisite. She was a true princess. As for the trio dance, it was beyond brilliant! A true masterpiece and unforgettable. Derek continues to create dances fans will never forget. Shame on Len for trying to bring such a powerful and theatrical dance down. He needs to give it up and retire.
Jacoby and Karina (and Cheryl) – I just loved these two tonight. Jacoby added just the right romance, beauty, and elegance to the first dance. I loved the way he held karina’s head in the turns. The second dance was full on entertaining. He was just like a Bull fighter and full of power. You could feel steam coming out of his ears. Awesome and creative choreography for both dances.
Zendaya and Val (and Gleb) – What a charming first dance to start the night. Zendaya’s extensions and glides were so refreshing. As for the second dance, Aztec perfection. I loved the creativy, the style, the quickness, and she never tired. It’s like she’s a professional with the best of them.
Aly and Mark (and Henry) – I’ve really been impressed with Aly these last few weeks, but, I didn’t like her as much tonight. I didn’t like her legs. They were slow and heavy at times and needed more sharpness. I was shocked when the judges gave her 10’s for the first dance especially when the lifts seemed rough and off too. As for the second dance, although still some stiffness, it was better. There is something about Henry that gets Aly to have fun and entertain.
Ingo and Kym (and Lindsay) – It was great seeing Ingo relax a bit more tonight and let loose. You could feel it both dances. I think it helped for Kym to make him dig deeper and get a little tough on him. ADDING: what Courtney said!
Sean and Peta (and Sharna) – There was a lot of power in their Tango, and yet, he was clumsy and he missed a lot of steps. He was thinking too much all through out the dance while Peta tried too hard to make up for what he was lacking. As for the Trio dance with Sharna, yes, there were some messy parts, but, I actually found myself liking it. The choreography was really creative and entertaining. Even still, he will find himself in the bottom two (with Ingo) and I think it’s his time to go home.
@ Tony- The song is “Unstoppable”—E.S. Posthumus. Lindsay danced to it on SYTYCD last year for the paso as well (Jason Gilkison choreo)
Princess Heidi “I mean, doesn’t that temper tantrum seem totally over the top and just ridiculous – exactly what you expect out of reality TV programming.”
HELL YES. He spent CAI and Bruno’s critique stewing, trying to figure out what he could make up, then suddenly leapt out of his chair, started screaming like a 2 year old, and cursed out Bruno. I only wish it wasn’t so obvious that it was staged.
And Court, I hope your head ache will go away soon. huggggsssss no fun xxxxx
Lol, Sean’s a “born again” virgin, which is about as real as a unicorn. I’m sorry, but that’s not just something you can get back.
@Kaitlyn: Nooooooo!!!! Oh my gosh, I’ve listened to that song so many times, now could I not think of the name! Thank you so much for that!
Guess I’ll be nasty, like Len. Forget about their dances,I can barely remember Ingo and what’s-his-name-batchelors names. And to me, Aly belongs in that group also. She might be a little better but I am so sick of whoever is pulling the strings trying to convince me that she can keep time to music or dance much. Zend’s dance was a freestyle with hiphop instead of salsa, Jacobys waltz like no waltz I’ve ever seen and kellie/dereks dances tonight some of the best I remember. Len couldn’t see if she had helleads in the waltz and her paso had more true content of paso than any of the other dancers. It’s just insulting to everyone, Len can’t act, they made sure Zend ended up in first place, Aly got pimped so I guess she could make it to finals,and Len points and screams at Derek and tells him AGAIN how he’s disappointed him.Imagine how disappointed everyone else is thinking Len is the only real judge on the show, lying about the content of Dereks dances to mislead the audience and giving Kellie unrealistic low scores. They need to retire this tired act of slamming Derek’s trio dances just because they are so many miles in quality better than anyone else that it puts hem to shame. It’s getting boring.
“I think I saw bent legs.”
The legs are supposed to bent in the Argentine Tango.
First of all, Kellie, Derek and Tristan did a fabulous job on their dance. The choreography, costumes, special effects were extremely creative. I was sitting on the couch enjoying the dance, eating a chicken sandwich, along with homemade guacamole and Triscuits…..when I was stunned into pure shock by the grenade that Len threw into the middle of the ballroom.
Then, he said the word a** on a family TV program. Poor Bruno looked as though ice water had been poured down his pants. Last week, Carrie Ann was bad enough. What is wrong with these two? ABC needs to seriously reconsider Carrie Ann and Len’s contracts. They’re losing their minds.
Zendaya and Aly’s trio dances were fabulous as well. I really enjoyed the show tonight until Len exploded like a ticking time bomb. Someone needs to go to the doctor and have some lab work done. I’m serious – explosions like that can be due to high blood sugar, low B-12 levels or even heart problems. I’m not kidding nor am I trying to be funny. I’ve witnessed this up close and personal. Even my family doctor told us that high blood sugar and low B-12 levels can make someone “mean as an alley cat”
Court…so sorry your head is hurting…feel better soon – and thank you for “powering through” to post tonight.
::sigh:: Len isn’t an actor…and he clearly was playing a role (for TPTB) – and TOTALLY sucked at it! He apparently was “sitting on the legos, dreidels and dice” that had been strewn about by us “rioters” last week after the Andy debacle. The dance that Derek put together for that trio (with the lead in from the VW) was a-mazing. Would love an encore that let them do the two back to back…like Derek imagined it. Do I think they will get to do that….::sigh::: no!
And surprise, surprise…they found a way to SLAM Andy even after he was gone! ::so not impressed with them::
I enjoyed Jacoby and Karina – don’t think they were brilliant or well executed dances…but I always have a smile on my face watching them.
I enjoyed Aly and Mark…didn’t think they were better than Kellie and Derek…but I was entertained.
I enjoyed Zendaya…not so much Val…but did enjoy seeing Gleb dancing with her. I think their Trio Dance should have counted as “getting the Hip Hop” and eliminate them from getting it for their dance next week. I LIKE Zendaya…she seems like a genuine and positive girl – and she is a very good dancer for a girl that is 16 years old – I find myself irritated with all the goofy stuff going on around her…but so far has not turned me against her as a valid competitor.
And, I will end where I began…. ::sigh:: don’t like seeing good dancers/entertainers demoralized for ANY reason…and NEVER like seeing a judge move into “commentary” rather than constructive criticism. Nobody wins…particularly not the celebrity and the fans. And then….one more ::sigh::
@DWTS Fan (#30): Oh, my bad. lol I guess what I really mean to say is that Aly’s legs looked really weird in that dance…
DWTS Fan “The legs are supposed to bent in the Argentine Tango.”
Are you sure? I was taking classes in it and my teacher was always telling us to take long steps, onto our heels, and I never once saw her knees bent. They can be bent when you take the step, but are supposed to elongate once you finish the action.
I really hope Zendaya won’t be given hip hop as a dance for next week, I feel like it would be an unfair advantage considering it’s what she does for a living.
Derek tweeted that he wants Flamenco so he and Kellie can “show Len” I think that’s a good idea! Give it LOTS of content, no frippery!
I also just noticed.. in Kellie’s second dance the audience behind them were missing (empty chairs) and then during Mark and Aly’s right after, they were back? so that sort of confused me as to why they weren’t there
and.. Len was SO out of line yelling at Derek like that, he didn’t have to execute his anger like that and could have said it in a more “professional” tone and I actually like Kellie’s dance, it was better than Zendaya’s IMO.
JMO but, if they are going to give a 30 to a hip hop non-salsa salsa, danced while wearing sneakers…. then I need to find a new show.
@KellyK: Oops. Haha! I think the fans have been tweeting for them to have the Charleston too much for that to happen… lol
I like to say that I did not like Jacoby waltz, everyone thinks he is so great. I watched him dance that waltz and his posture was terrible, he doesn’t stand straight, he bends forward. Derek & Kellie were fantastic, Len does have a problem Loved Val & Zendaya. Mark & Aly were ok Kym & Ingo ok Sean hopefully going home
I am so over Zendaya.
Kellie and Derek will win this
The Len stuff was DEFINITELY planned. His remarks were SO inaccurate (not any content) and he fighting and yelling SO over the top, it was definitely planned. Derek was laughing. But, Len went too far with it, probably farther than the plan and it was inappropriate.
I think it went way too far but I really didn’t care that he was harsh with the score because I want Kellie fans to vote!
Thank God for Derek’s creativity or it would have been another show without a real moment. Loved the great use of music, props and effects….staging and drama that had purpose, not just for the sake of it.
As for everyone else….
Zendaya was good as always. I actually really enjoyed the foxtrot, she moved really well in it and I liked Val’s choreography. The salsa however was a letdown. Not because the girl can’t move or perform because she can. But the concept and outfits and NO HEELS were all disappointing. It didn’t have enough salsa moves or flavor. And, I’m sorry, salsa needs heels. This isn’t jazz or contemporary. It was not 30 worthy…I’m not surprised Bruno and Carrie Ann loved it, but I really didn’t expect Len to think it was good enough without more content. Again, Len was so all over the place tonight.
With Aly, things are now reversed. I think her performance level has gotten really good. But her technique needs work. She does move heavily and it just isn’t 10 worthy dancing to me. There have been a dozen better ATs on this show. Maybe she needs some help through the scores to make the finals?
Jacoby was definitely good in both but they just didn’t excite me. I enjoyed the choreography of Ingo’s foxtrot. His other dance and both of Sean’s were just blah.
I will say that even if they are going over the top with the manipulation to make it so, if the final is anything but Kellie/Zendaya/Jacoby/Aly, it will be ridiculous. Sean and Ingo are both so much beneath them, it just wouldn’t be right. And Sean has had an unattractive attitude lately and Ingo just seems done like Victor was (only enjoys the performance night but nothing in between)…and Kym seems done too!
I hope you feel better soon Courtney. Thank you for posting your power rankings despite the fact you’re not feeling well.
Tonight, I thought that Zendaya and Kellie had the best dances. I really enjoyed Zendaya’s foxtrot and trio dance. The trio needed more salsa steps, but overall it was fun to watch. The chemistry between her and Val in rehearsals and during the dances is nice.
Kellie’s first dance was beautiful. I think she still needs to show a bit more emotion in her dances, but overall, she’s great. The 7 from Len was ridiculous for their trio just like it was last season for Derek’s samba trio with Shawn and Mark. If not a 10, at least a 9. I thought the transition from the first dance to this one by using the mirror was so creative and it would be cool if we could see the two dances back to back.
I like Aly, but I just don’t see her as that great dancer that the judges especially Len want us to believe she is. Her AT to me was not worthy of a 10. Her leg movements could have been sharper. Her jive could have been better too. Overall, a lot of overscoring.
Sean and Ingo should definitely be in the bottom two tomorrow with Sean going home.
By the way, loved seeing Andy in the audience tonight! I missed seeing him dance with Sharna.
Derek/Kellie/Tristan had the performance of the night! It was BRILLIANT the way Derek paralleled the V. Waltz and Paso Doble. He has a true GIFT. It was intense passionate. Isn’t that what the Paso Doble is about.
BTW, Derek & Tristan work incredible together. They were so strong in that performance! Kellie was right there with them-amazing! That is for me what makes Derek such a stand out choreographer as he creates routines where he & his partner/partners become one in the dance!-Amazing!!
Len needs to get the stick out of his ass(forgive me) If he doesn’t give Derek/Kellie/Tristan an apology something is seriously wrong.
Kellie, Derek & Tristan’s dance is why I believe Derek needs to leave the show and why I believe this dance would have rocked SYTYCD. That show would allow Derek to show off his creativity. I mean, I wouldn’t want him to do it every week because I think he should be doing other things, but every once in a while.
I knew Mean Len was going to make an appearance sometime soon. I’m thinking he did that to Kellie so they have someone to put in jeopardy tomorrow. Seeing as Jacoby was in jeopardy last week and Zendaya and Aly got pretty good scores and comments, Kellie is likely going to be the one in jeopardy — with Ingo and Sean being the bottom 2.
After his reaction to Shawn’s trio dance last season, I am so over Len that I couldn’t really get THAT mad at his ridiculous comments. I loved Kellie and Derek’s trio paso. Though the only thing I could have done without was all that fog. Half of Kellie’s body was covered by fog at one point.
With that said, I hijacked my family’s phones and voted for Kellie and Derek since Andy is gone now.
Actually, (to whoever was talking about Aly’s Argentine Tango) no, there aren’t supposed to be bent legs. AT is all about extension and lines (as opposed to lifts — which are supposed to enhance the lines, not take up the entire dance), and the legs are definitely supposed to straightened.
Also, can I just say this: Len’s reaction, although perhaps not quite to the extent that it occurred, was totally predicted? I remember reading Derek’s blog and half the comments were predicting that Derek would get slammed. Oh, gee, look what happened.
Just finishing watching this on the west coast. I get a little of Len was saying about the staging – the judges were looking around the hangy white things in the first dance (and finished it behind the mirror), but isn’t it for TV, not the judges? And who can control the evil smoke machine (who’s dance was it a few seasons ago when it malfunctioned and almost obscured them completely?). that said, gorgeous both dances, but the paso was crazy amazing.
And on Val’s hip hop salsa – saw a few moves in there that reminded me of Derek/Maria/Henry’s much maligned bollywood samba that Len panned – but it was okay to do it when it is the Disney star? And I don’t get the pimping of Aly. She’s not that good. Passable, yes. Better than the blonde twins, for sure, but not 10 worthy. not close.
Blech DWTS…
I’m a bit “meh” on Aly too. Yes, she can dance well, but the rest of it just feels very “so what?” to me. She doesn’t have that sparkle when she dances like some of the others do.
Who should go? Either Sean or Ingo. I’m feeling Sean since he’s so far down on the leaderboard.
I thought Zendaya did good tonight but i did like song she dance to for the foxtrot. I her Salsa trio dance i think they made a good choice choosing Gleb. Aly I think is being scored to she has improved but shes still not as good as Kellie or Zendaya yet she should been marked down. I think Sean should go home tomorrow is he clearly the weakest left. Jacoby really needs to listen to Karina about his feet if he wants to improve. I thought Len was right about Kellie and Derek Trio Paso but i think he took it a little to far its just to much dark side for me.
Zendaya tweeted her fans telling them she wants to dance hip hop next week…..of course.
I’m so tired of Derek getting slammed for his creativity. so disgusted in Len – he should apologize to Kellie, Derek, Tristan, Bruno and CAI and to the TV public for his ridiculous outburst.
I hope Kellie & Derek get through and show him again.
Z’s salsa – was that a true salsa? Whatever?
Aly was good but the first set of scores were generous, imo.
The blondes – bottom two and hopefully Sean going.
Looking forward to Derek’s dance tomorrow night.
Well said @Sharon….
I really hope Zendaya doesn’t get hip hop for next week, but it looks like she will. It’s basically the equivalent of adding gymnastics as a style and giving Aly the chance to do it.
It’d be nice to see her doing something new and different, and not a style she’s been practicing for years already.
I’m not even mad about Len. We all predicted this. We all knew he was going to come down hard on Kellie and Derek. Len is just sticking to the script. He got it yesterday and inside it said, “Slam Kellie and Derek this week”. He is an ass, though. Let’s not forget that.
I haven’t watched the VW yet, but that paso was amazing. Kellie was wonderful; Derek is a genius; and Tristan looked yummy. Too bad it won’t be the encore tomorrow.
you guys are harsh, man. i thought a lot of the dances were cute, even sean’s jazz number, which had an awesome song. i enjoyed zendaya’s salsa though i agree it was a lot of hip hop. gleb looked very good doing it. 🙂 i also thought aly’s jive looked really nice. the bottom is certainly between ingo and sean; i hope sean goes. i thought both paso dobles sucked. they were overdone. i thought len had a point. he often expresses the less popular opinion and i often think there’s merit in it.
Does anyone think Len gave Kellie low scores to get viewers heated up. This is always said about the dancer but never Kellie. Maybe she needs the votes.
I also think tat Aly is being scored high on how much she has improved in addition to her great dancing.
I’m kind of getting annoyed of Jacoby.
Zendaya gets everything first, doesn’t she!
*the other dancers but never Kellie
I don’t believe Len’s comments were staged at all – the producers would not have someone yelling and screaming and using curse words on a family show. Len is often cranky with Derek, but that was almost abusive. All I can think is he’s going senile or something, scary.
loved Kellie’s trio dance, it was passionate, intense, dark. Love LOVE dark Tristan!!
Len? Good acting. That was just show, but totally over the line in my opinion.
As Shirley ballas said on Afterbuzz last week…gotta do something to make it exciting. Switch up the scoring to keep it interesting. So although I was initially surprised by his reaction to kellie’s paso because I thought the dance was great, I have been watching long enough to believe that his outburst was for effect…to get the fans engaged. (And you have to admit it was a moment…all 3 judges standing up yelling at each other). 🙂
I as many others think Len’s reaction was scripted but he did take it to far. I don t have enough words for Derek’s choreography, that boy really is bigger that this show.
I’m in minority abot Zen’s salsa since I really enjoyed it, yes there wasn’t a lot of salsa content but overall it was so darn entertaining ..but that might be because I couldn’t take my eyes of Gleb. I really hope he gets a good partner next season. Also Val seams incapable of finding a good outfit for Zen. Since she is so skinny I think dressing her well would make her lines look so much better.
Aly isn’t doing it for me, I think Mark spends so much time teaching her how to perform that he forgets she also needs good technique. She seems slow and labored. Seeing her dance makes you appreciate Shawn Johnson as a dancer even more. Mark used to be among my favorite pros choreography wise, I don t know what happened to him..:(
I actually don t have a problem with Zen getting hip hop since I think it will back fire on her. She has to be perfect since everyone will expect that and wwhen/if she is everyone will say “off course she was good, that’s her day job” …I can t see a winning scenario for her if she gets hip hop….plus the fact that many of the older viewers won’t appreciate that type of dancing style
I do agree Len’s behavior last night was VERY OVERPLAYED and totally out of character! Even if his intent is to HELP Kellie gain more votes, it’s just not a good way to go about getting them IMO.
Totally agree with you #blonde. This is my first season watching The Voice and the difference between that judging panel and the one on DWTS is like night and day. On The Voice I actually look forward to what the judges have to say, they have such an easy, funny, respectful banter going on it is a joy to watch, on DWTS I just mute the judges. I can’t give up on DWTS because I love and admire the pros, the dances, the stories but they have to do something about the judges. They are unwatchable and they have lost all type of credibility.
@blonde actually I would say since Len has done the same thing for what, the past three seasons now? I would say that is spot on for his behavior. I was really surprised he didn’t go off on Derek sooner.
You know this power voting is some serious energy drainage suckage. Know what would be funny? If Zendaya’s followers were so busy voting for Hip Hop on Twitter they forgot to vote for her to stay. Serve TPTB right with the Twitter BS.
My personal thinkage of the situation:
MONDAY Morning…….Meanwhile while dress rehearsal is going on elsewhere TPTB put their plans for the night into action!
TPTB: We must pimp Zendaya without looking like we are pimping Zendaya. The masses are on to us. Especially that darn Pure DWTS site. Jacoby was the sacrifical lamb last week so it is Kellie’s turn.
Len: But they don’t have Samba! I only…grrr. It is tradition I go hard on his Sambas!
CAI: I was the troll last week with Andy. I’m not doing it.
Len: What am I supposed to say? There wasn’t enough Samba in his Paso?!
Bruno: I’m the good dance fairy. I can’t do it!
Len: Fine! I’ll do it but you guys owe me. I’m tired of getting prune juice sent to me in the mail.
TPTB: Great! The sheep, I mean viewers will never be able to tell we are telling them who to vote for. While you guys are at it. It’s time for Sean to go. He has outlasted his usefulness and make Aly look really good. Ok? But don’t overdo it. Zendaya is our main focus here. Oh and we need some mention of Andy . We underestimated his popularity, maybe throw a comment or two at Ingo. Jacoby is good snug towards the middle ground. He’s got plenty of votes. Have a good show and remember don’t come off as rehearsed and planned. We almost blew it last week with Andy. (Exec looks at CAI)
CAI: What!?!?! You said go hard on the man!
Bruno: I was the perfect amount of douchey.
Len: (grumbling) Now I’m going to be the grumpy old fart that picks on props again…
TPTB: Not so much overkill this week. Better yet, don’t pull out any paddles below 7. Can’t be THAT obvious. Darn viewers tried to start a riot. Thanks dolls!
:::end of meeting:::
If only walls had ears. 🙂
ARGHHHHH! I was already miffed about the judging/scoring again this year, but this takes the cake. A 7?? Really?? For the best dance of the night, even if it lacked enough Paso steps for Len, knock it down to 9, cause it was sooooo deserving. First time this season I actually screamed at the TV. I know Len does this with Derek at least once a season, but that score was unbelievable.
#Cher imagining that was the highlight of my day …oh man:)))))))))))
Oh Cher, that was really hilarious. Thank you for this. Court, i hope you are feeling better!
This gonna be one great final!!!
Did you see the enews interview with Derek? He said Len blindsided him because Len said try some moves and Derek put them in. Len is crazy.
Nowadays, all we can say is “at least it was…”. So, at least it was better than latin night, but I want Andy back! Already said this, but he wasn’t my fav one to win, but my fav one to stick around much longer. I was voting for him like crazy every week and now he’s gonne I can’t even vote to my fav couple =/
kellie and zendaya are so far beyond the rest, i’d almost rather get rid of the everyone else and just have them dance for an entire hour. The rest are just sort’ve getting painful to watch. I get the lowballing of Kellie/Derek so as to avoid Kristi Yamaguchi syndrome. But ya know what, I’d rather watch fair scores and know someone is running away with the competition than have all these dramatics. Len’s critique was stupid.
The rest…just painful. Aly (bless her heart, lordy was it unkind to place her in a season right after Shawn for comparison) still can’t count but if the inflated scores get her into the final over jacoby, whatever. I am going to be SO irritated if he makes it to final 3 and wins over Kellie and Zendaya because he has the football power vote. Jacoby wasn’t bad, but I just don’t enjoy watching him. What some see as charm I find smarmy and He, like the other guys, has kind of hit a plateau dance-wise. Ingo and sean can both go home this week and it wouldn’t hurt my feelings.
I agree! Something was so lacking without Andy last night…and Sharna dancing with him too.
And I wanted to add that Courtney you nailed it too for how I was feeling about Ingo and Kym as I couldn’t put my finger on it.
Also, I’m so over these judges right now!!!
@Cher: LOL!!!! Why do I have a feeling that’s EXACTLY how things went?
@Carolyn, where is this interview?? I believe it, but I wanna see what Derek says.
Hey Court, Thanks for your comments. Just a suggestion for your migraine: my wife swears by Maxalt. It’s a prescription, but she used to get migraines every two weeks and the only thing that helped her was Maxalt. Get the kind that you put under your tongue and it dissolves in your mouth. I hope that will help. As for DWTS, it is time for Sean to go and then Ingo. Isn’t there a double elimination that still has to happen with only two more weeks? Could it be tonight and they both go? Good luck with the migraine.
Hey Courtney – hope you are on the mend. I know the agony of migraines and really appreciate you doing this despite feeling crappy.
#67 Cher – think you do have a fly on the wall!! Funny if you couldn’t believe something very like it happened. Really like the line about the sambas!!
It was a mixed night, from what I have seen on youtube – I really enjoyed the trios round on the whole,
Zendaya: thought her foxtrot dress was gorgeous! For me her top line didn’t quite work in places, but it was a fine foxtrot, though I agree with Carrie Ann that it was a little weak at the beginning. Thought that their package was sweet though. Their trio was a good dance (although I agree with whomever posted that there were overtones from Derek, Maria and Henry’s Samba) and I really liked her, she can dance and was having a ball. However, am really disappointed that it was the first ’30’ dance as it was not proper salsa – lots of hip hop and she was wearing trainers again. Assuming she gets the hip hop next week she’ll no doubt be in trainers again and then obviously for freestyle too. Girl has enough natural advantages – do it properly!
Sean – haven’t actually brought myself to watch the tango but was a little disappointed with the trio dance. Agree it was a good idea, but don’t really like dances which consist of women just wriggling suggestively (though am sure Peta was aiming at the half the population who do!) particularly when they are professional dancers – thought Sharna might add more class.
Jacoby – have to admit the boy has a winning personality and really suspect he is going to beat all these women and take the thing. The waltz was my preferred choreography of the two – depsite the feet being a bit clompy. The Paso was fine, but I agree that the leap thing is overdone – twice in one dance is a bit much!
Ingo – thought that the foxtrot was actually quite nice – and he actually performed it well on the night, but goodness, the package was off putting. Poor Kym – she definitely looks like she’s had enough. The jive was forgettable – agree Lindsay just is a bit in the background and it didn’t really work for me.
Kellie – thought her waltz was lovely – she is starting to connect with the emotions and I liked it, but it had a missing sparkle. Think Derek really had a problem with the length – he mentioned it a number of times! Loved their paso – really thought Len was out of line and Derek himself has said that he wasn’t expecting it this time – why he was laughing I think! Kellie slammed it – she performed with emotion and passion. That’s what I am most pi**ed off with Len about – he didn’t comment on Kellie’s fire and performance, just on the production values. Would love, love to see the two dances performed together as Derek imagined, but can’t think that will happen – hope someone creates them on you tube so we can get the idea. Think that viewed together the waltz would also have more intensity and purpose. This was Derek at his best and Kellie was right there with him. Always lovely to see Tristan too.
Aly – the AT is my favourite dance of all and I found this one OK – it reminded me a little of Maria and Derek’s in that somehow her posture was slightly off and it didn’t quite sing, but I thought it was good and she acted it really well. I forget sometimes she is only 18. Clearly I am in a minority, but I loved their trio – was it the best dance ever – no, but I thought it was fun, she had obviously worked hard at timing, and she worked well with Henry and Mark. Definitely a dance I can imagine rewatching some time. She is top 4 so overscoring not bothering me too much, but she doesn’t really deserve to win the whole thing so hope that she isn’t going to pull a shawn in the finale!
Overall, I actually hope Ingo goes. Not that I like Sean and Ingo is a better dancer, but I really like Kym and she looks fed up!! To me they are the Drew and Anna of this season – on paper they looked like they were going to be good and preseason had good vibes, but something is just off with them. Shame. But don’t really mind which of the bottom two goes as long as it is one of them.
Eh… I missed the show tonight and after reading the wrap up here I went to youtube to catch up on the dances. After typing “Zendaya” and “hip hop” and browsing through I remembered that it wasn’t actually hip hop but salsa she was supposedly doing (long night/morning at work!). The first search result was “Salsa Dance from Cece And Zendaya.” Hmm… okay. Next result: Zendaya, Val, Gleb. Well, the “Shake it up” first video was a little grainy and didn’t have any music to it but was a cute little hip hop/salsa. ZVG on the other hand? I get it, Zendaya can spin. She can project. Yadda yadda yadda. To be honest, the package put me off. Don’t know if it’s a Disney kid thing (Roshon anyone?) or just hanging out with the Chmerkovskiy’s but Zendaya’s coming across as a little bit ‘precocious’. In a Honey Boo-Boo obnoxious kind of way. The throne didn’t help, either.
I liked Kellie & Derek’s dances but I would have liked to see her feet through the smoke. I kind of felt in the paso that she’s so light, Derek & Tristan were kind of flinging her between them. Part of the reason I wanted to see her feet – I couldn’t tell if the guys were holding her up or whether she was getting her feet under her strongly. If that makes sense? I’m sure she was but yeah… as a production, I liked it.
I actually liked Aly, Mark & Henry’s jive better than the Argentine Tango. Although it seemed like more of a jazz number to me, with a few jive steps thrown in. I think Mark needs to forget about trying to teach Aly to count and instead just try and get her to point her toes and extend her feet! That was what ruined the AT for me. But then, Aly could barely point her toes after 15 years of gymnastics training. And Court, I know Aly’s probably “flexible” amongst the average population but it’s not a label that would ever have been applied to her in gymnastics. You’re more likely to hear “sturdy”, “consistent”, “powerful” and “fugly form” from gymnastics fans!
Jacoby’s trio confirmed something I already knew. Cheryl Burke should not ever dance next to Karina Smirnoff. That might be harsh on Cheryl but as Shirley Ballas says “there’s quality and there’s quality.” That said, I didn’t like Karina’s choreography for this and Jacoby seems to be losing focus as the season wears on.
Ingo and Sean are still much of a muchness dance wise, although I’m glad Ingo got a few more points as I can’t stand any man vain enough to be “TV’s Bachelor.” Hopefully Sean is gone today.
#KJ “Cheryl Burke should not ever dance next to Karina Smirnoff”..so true. I’m in no way trying to be mean but Karina’s precision is amasing and I never felt Cheryl was as sharp as many of the other female pros.
That’s interesting, KJ, because Jacoby had major game face on during his V. Waltz package and for the dances last night, especially paso. Did you happen to notice his shoes in the rehearsal package? LOL
lol @Cher! Probably spot-on 😀
Cher, that was a great script you wrote for this reality show! Brilliant!
Court, hope you’re feeling better now! 🙂
Buttercup, if you think Len was over the top and was not doing this because TPTB asked it of him, do you think there will be any consequences for him????? I mean really, I thought he was going to blow a fuse. There’s something wrong with that man!
Derek is going to get the afro jazz and will do something amazing with it. He’s probably already started planning it. Z is going to get the hip hop, it’s beyond annoying how obvious that is. And since Jacoby asked for the charleston, he will probably get that. Anything else will surprise me.
Cher, #67, we can only hope that Z’s twitter tribe forgets to vote because they’re too busy trying to get her the hip hop. Even though they’re not going anywhere (unless a truly shocking miracle occurred) I would love to see her and Val’s face if they were put in jeopardy.
I know I am gonna get flack for this but I don’t care. I Laughed hysterically at Len’s outburst. It’s about time he put Derek in his place. That dance had no Paso Doble moves or anything in it. It was just a lot of smoke and mirrors (literally). Although I do believe that he overreacted quite a bit and that the score was a little harsh. I think an 8 was in order at least. I have never seen Len get that upset. Derek pushes the limits all the time and gets away with it. I wish the other judges would see the light. I do however feel like Len did cross a few lines tonight and needs to apologize at least to Derek and Kellie. The dance to me was “eh”. The only bright spot in the dance was Tristan. He makes everything better.
I know this page is a bunch of Derek lovers so I am done now.
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Well, the TPTB got the result they wanted. Mass hysteria over Len and his melt-down. I think most everyone watched the Shirley Ballas interview. This is show business. The power voting for Kellie was probably off the charts last night, to show that mean old Len. I can’t imagine that she wasn’t getting the votes. But it did create a buzz, and that’s the name of the game.
I loved Zendaya’s foxtrot. She does have some lovely lines when she dances. And the trio was just what I thought it would be. Loved the choreography, and I thought there was enough Salsa in there to qualify, but that’s just my opinion. And it’s kinda hard to see any hip action , when you don’t have any yet. Very entertaining. Say what you will, ringer, pimped to the skies,the girl can dance, and she’s a joy to watch.
I also liked Kellie and Derek’s V. waltz. Very pretty. And the trio paso with the added treat of Tristan was definitely not a 7. At the least if Len wanted to penalize, maybe give them a 9. But it was to create controversy, and it did. Probably resulted in more votes for them.
Aly is trying, but she just looks heavy and cumbersome when she dances.I always look at the judges in disbelief when they give her their scores. But, they want her in the finals, so I guess over-scoring is the way to solidify it.
Jacoby is still the class clown, but I’m getting tired of the jumps. We know he can. Now dance. Also I agree putting Cheryl next to Karina tends to cause comparisons with Cheryl suffering. He’s certainly the best of the 3 guys left, so we’ll probably see him in the finale
Ingo and Sean I just lump together, with Ingo with a slight edge. Despite Sharna being there in Sean’s trio, it wasn’t that good. ( I am liking her a lot. Hope she’s back next season) It’s time for one of them to leave. Too bad this isn’t double elimination week.
I loved last night when Brooke was talking to Aly about counting and how she couldnt count either and Derek comes popping in to say “true story.” Thought it was a cute moment.
I really enjoyed Kellie and Derek’s paso and the theatrics of it all. (It reminded me of an old school episode of the tv show Charmed). I was expecting Len to pull out a 8 not a 7 but I don’t think it really matters at this point, Kellie should be safely into the final. It was done for drama and it did what it intended, got people outraged and talking about it.
I enjoyed the show.
I did like Kelly’s and Derek’s trio the best. 2nd would have to be Zendaya and Val’s.
I do have one issue. I watch this show with my kids. DWTS frames this as a family show.
1) Cheryl said Bitch 2ce and they didn’t block it. Now I am not a PC person, but that was a pre-recorded, chosen segment. DWTS should not have put it in there. My kids 7 and 5 actually commented on it.
2) The one that everyone is talking about is Len’s comments. He always picks on Derek, which is uncalled for. But what crosses the line for me is the comments to Bruno. He went way to far.
I hope you feel better Courtney.
I admit it, I’ve always had a soft spot for Len, but even I can see that he went too far last night.
I really think he should retire from judging. I personally would still like to see him involved in some capacity on the show. Perhaps have him come in during semi-final round to coach the remaining couples. But the cranky old man act is too much week after week to take anymore.
For God’s sake somebody put a muzzle on Jacoby’s mom! I get that she’s proud of her boy and I do like a sassy mama, but I fear she might be alienating some of Jacoby’s fans a bit with her camera hogging.
I really loved Karina and Jacoby’s waltz. It looked like he was actually doing the leading. Lovely lines.
Karina’s dress was gorgeous. It reminded me of a dress Lacey wore once with it’s sheer circular strips of fabric on the skirt.
Now how come I can remember silly things like that but I can’t remember what I just walked into a room for?
Loved Kellie’s waltz. Wished it was at least several minutes longer. Should have gotten tens.
The Paso had such a creative concept. I did feel she could have used a little more attack in her movements.
Zendy’s foxtrot was nice. Not particularly memorable, but nice.
I loved her Salsa. It was fast and used so much of the floor. I appreciated that her movement came from a place of strength and confidence rather than last weeks clichéd hoochie mama choreography for Aly’s salsa.
Aly’s AT and jive both lacked the same thing. A crispness in the legs. It almost looked at times as I was viewing her legs dancing under water, they were that slow. Over scored.
Loved the costumes on Peta and Sharna for the Jazz. Unfortunately that was all I liked about it.
Please go home.
I forgot to add that I laughed like a hyena when Jacoby threw his cape and it landed on Cheryl. Is that wrong?
Hmmm, not sure what to say about last night…
Loved seeing Sharna with Sean and Peta, and it illustrated to me why she’s very quickly become one of my favorite pros on the show…. Peta let Sharna take lead on the choreography, which was smart on Peta’s part. Sharna definitely choreographed to Sean’s strengths, but he just didn’t dance it well. AND!! SHARNA was more of a supporting partner to Sean during their judging critiques than Peta was. Not sure if Peta even touched Sean, except while they were dancing? Much preferred their jazz trio over their tango. I’m also tired of Peta’s costuming choices, and her “how naked can I be this week?” thinking. Yes, pretty much all of Edyta’s costumes were bejeweled bikinis with a quarter yard of draping, but the biggest difference is that Edyta opted for the classy barely there costumes, not…. well… And, she focused more on her partners, even if she did have some boring choreography, the dances were about the partners more than HERHERHERHER!!!
Zendaya is a great dancer…. And yes, I know she’s young, but she’s not the first under 18 year old they’ve had on the show. She is graceful, but gangly, and hasn’t quite gotten the hang of controlling her limbs. And I don’t know if Val has helped her to grow to the full of her abilities. Yes, he’s doing good with her, but I don’t know if he’s yet been able to get her to the furthest that she could be. With her abilities, even though she’s young (and she likes to tell us) she should be giving us WOWTHATBLEWMYMIND! performances time after time after time…. And she’s not, she’s been good but almost adequate. I don’t think she should have peaked. And the salsa last night? I know little about dancing, honestly, but even I could see mostly hip-hop type moves. And she gets a perfect score, even though the actual salsa content seemed (to me) to be pretty lacking.
And that’s what makes Len’s blowout that much more troublesome to me, Val gets a tongue-bath and a 10 from Len for something that wasn’t completely a salsa, and Derek gets trashed for lack of content, when in my eyes, it seemed like he had more paso content in his paso than Val had salsa content in his salsa.
Derek, PLEASE leave this show and never come back!!! You’ve shown repeatedly that you NEED to stay out of the box….. You need to go away from the show, and be allowed to SOAR! You can’t soar to your abilities when you have shackles and chains holding you down.
“And that’s what makes Len’s blowout that much more troublesome to me, Val gets a tongue-bath and a 10 from Len for something that wasn’t completely a salsa, and Derek gets trashed for lack of content, when in my eyes, it seemed like he had more paso content in his paso than Val had salsa content in his salsa.”
Totally agree Lori. Plus Derek put in moves Len specifically asked for. That is part of why I know it was staged. But Len took it way too far.
I will miss Derek but I agree, he probably should focus his creative talents on his new projects. Especially if he does manage to win with Kellie, and I do think it is possible, go out on a high note.
Put Henry there in his place. I have faith that he can bring something great to the show like Derek has and like Sharna has done as a new pro this season.
Len, Len, Len… I didn’t think I could be more pissed than I was at Cries Alot for her hypercritical 5, but congrats! I am at your petty, vindictive 7!
I’ve never been on the “we need new judges” bandwagon, but I am now! This season, more than ever, Carrie Ann is a b*tch, Len is a pr*ck and Bruno is disgusting and cruel.
Excuse the venting. The above is only my opinion (and emotions) and is no way meant to reflect anyone else’s opinion (and emotions). Unless, you know, they do… ;-/
*sigh* We finally get a 30 worthy dance, and TPTB won’t let it stand. Crap.
Was there other dancing? They’ve faded already…
EDITED BY COURTNEY: Yeah, let’s avoid commenting on the parenting strategies of other posters…let’s just avoid commenting on other posters, period.
Bruno has made far worse comments regarding contestants’ weight, looks, etc. in the past that were far meaner and more appalling than anything Len said. Tonioli deserved to be put in his place.
“Derek pushes the limits all the time and gets away with it” it annoys me to no end when I read this…It’s season 16 for apple’s sake..we already have repetitive moves, which is to be expected we need out of the box dancing so that it doesn’t all look the same. I only wish all the pros were capable of creating like that. When I hear a pro complain about a new theme it usually is because they are incapable of doing it, unlike Derek who loves the challenge. Maks and Tony were the worse at new things ..and no matter how many times people bitch about Derek getting the best dancers the truth is that no other pro has as many memorable dances as Derek and I don t believe for one second that Maks, Tony, Louis etc would have produced the same kind of entertaiment/choreography if they were paird with Shawn, Nicole etc. I’m not bad-mouthing the others, they are all talented and great but some are just better.Rant over!
Thanks everyone for the well-wishes and tips for beating migraines 🙂 Feeling much better this morning, but I did put in a call to the doc to see if it was my new inhaler that was causing all the problems. Steroids seem like they’re a lot more trouble than they’re worth!
After seeing everyone’s comments about Len, I feel as though I should clarify – while I do think it was petty and stupid and OTT for him to throw a tantrum about Derek’s choreography, I’m actually more upset about what he said to Bruno…the “something up your ass” comment. Given Bruno’s sexual orientation, I think that could have been construed as homophobic. Not to say that Bruno took the high road, though – pretty sure I heard an “up yours” directed towards Len as he flung up his “10” paddle. I think all the judges would be better off if they avoided making comments about things getting put in (or in Carrie Ann’s case, coming out of) anyone’s hindquarters. It’s just…crass. And this is coming from someone who helps write the cheesecake 😛 And yes, all of the judges have stepped out of line at least once this season…and it may be time for a charm school refresher for them. Damn, this show is just coming unhinged…
Holly, I think you’re missing the point – just don’t comment on other posters, period.
Does Len really think he did himself any favors last night. He is always jokingly asking why he is getting booed when he gives bad scores well lets see Len why would anyone boo you. It’s not like you were down right rude
and vile to anyone right. oh that’s right he was. I also think it was awful that poor Andy is not even there and they still have to take a swipe at him. I think these judges need to take a week off and be replaced. I use to enjoy listen to them sometimes now when they come on my sister and i just make games out of there comments.
Bruno’s sexual orientation didn’t even come to mind when Len made the “stuck up your a–” comment. It’s a common term; I doubt it was meant as anything against Bruno as a gay man.
Courtney: At first I thought Len’s was joking around, then when I saw that he was serious I just couldn’t believe it. He was out of order, almost completely crazy with his comments. Tom Bergeron looked upset about how he was acting as well. He really should apologize to everyone, Derek and Bruno. Kellie appeared as though she was going to cry for Gods sake!
Okay, while I’m not really rooting Kellie and the couple I’m rooting for is Zendaya & Val (although I’m not a teenybopper – I wish I was that young again, though :D) I completely agree with you Courtney over Len. I LOVED that dance from Kellie & Derek and thought it had more Paso content than he made out. Also, the comment he made was ridiculous. The judges have been staged out of proportion now. I remember Season 1 when they just marked and made sensible critiques, but obviously that won’t rack up the viewers ABC wants. SO annoyed by that score and comment from Len, it definitely didn’t need THREE points knocked off!
Sorry for the rant, lol, and hope your migraine is getting better, Courtney!
@Margaret
It is Len’s messed up scoring system. If he expects more out of you then he will score you low. He doesn’t do it with everyone which is what is so effed up about it. It also doesn’t look well for Zendaya since he has already handed her two tens. What gets me is he gave her a ten for a dance she almost fell on her booty in and then hands out a seven for Derek giving Kellie too much flashy lights and griping about the music they were given.Which they have no control over.
I did enjoy Tom’s “I don’t know you anymore.”
Len is competing for the Master Douche Blaster award this week.
@Cher
I’ve watched that dance a couple of times on YouTube now, but I must be missing something, ’cause I didn’t see any parts where Zendaya almost fell. Do you remember where so I know what to look for?
For me, best and most memorable dance of the night was Kellie, Derek, Tristan’s paso doble hands down…. I think it has become tradition for Len to lowball Derek’s trio dances ever since its inception… Maria/Derek trio Samba 9-7-9; Shawn/Derek trio Samba 10-7-9; Kellie/Derek PD 10-7-10 … Notice a trend going on there?
All that matters to me is that the dance was incredibly entertaining and I could DEFINITELY tell that it was a Paso Doble… Not to mention that Kellie danced both of her dances very well. So great job Derek and Kellie (& Tristan)!
Len was extremely out of line with his comments to them (& Bruno), but it is a entertainment show… not sure if it’s a reality show anymore. But still, it was way OTT.
I knew Zen was going to get the first perfect score (because that’s how the storyline is set up for her) and will prob get the encore tomorrow night.. But I would much rather see Kellie and Derek’s VW/PD to see Derek’s vision of connecting both dances. I bet she is going to get hip hop next week also.
Honestly, i didn’t really pay much attention to the show last night because I heard abt the 7 from the east coast and spent most of the evening just voting my butt off for Kellie. But I think Sean will be sent home tonite, Zen will get the encore, and Derek will blow everyone out of the ballroom with his Fred Astaire homage!
@Holly
Zendaya and Val even talked about it in their afterbuzz interview. Val said she covered it up well. To me it was when she was dancing with Gleb.
Here is their afterbuzz interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkzJz-xpdQU
If you enjoyed it, great. My point is don’t look at one dancer with rose colored glasses then pick on another for their music and lighting.
#106 Elmari: Derek will do just that!
So this will go one of two ways. Either Zendaya’s trio gets the encore because of the perfect score, and god forbid we should forget about her for a second, or Kellie and Derek get the encore, and Len apologizes to them, (as he did to Donald Driver a couple of years ago), and all will be sparkly in the ballroom once more. Unfortunately, I think it’s the first scenario that will play out.
After my rant last night, I want to add that if this show had any smarts they would have Kellie and Derek and Tristan do the encore for all the controvery but my guess, they will go with the chosen winner of this season, who has already had 2/or 3? encores. I guess, little ole Kellie Pickler just isn’t worthy or you know, there just isn’t anything in it for TPTB, the network and so on to have the dancer who has progressed the most and done great dances every week actually win. That would add too much credibility to this farce of a show.
Sigh… IMO, DWTS is about the only place where “Larry, Moe, & Curly” could be “judges”, and the “brain trust” consists of a hamster, that water-skiing squirrel, and a coked-out ferret. 😯 This is getting so insane… Again, this is JMO, but it’s getting to the point where the style of dance doesn’t matter (a Salsa ain’t necessarily a Salsa, or there wasn’t much jive there, but who cares ’cause it’s entertaining, yadda, yadda, yadda). The manipulation is gross, the behavior is worse, and management doesn’t seem to care. It’s like they’re merging DWTS with KUWTK… At this rate, DWTS won’t last much longer. Sad, sad, sad.
Well, just to get my 2 cents in. Had to wait until today to
comment, as I didn’t trust myself!
Decided to watch Derek, Tristan and Kellie’s paso again this
morning before I went to work. Lo and behold I saw something
I missed before. After the dance, the cameras switch to
the judges and what…could it be…LEN WAS CLAPPING.
What a bunch of phoney baloney harkey malarkey…
Well, you guys have already said it all. As for me–
Karina is a ballroom goddess, Mark is insane, but when
Derek is gone, so am I.
When you combine the Zendaya fans with the Chermosky fans they end up being such a sweet little bunch, don’t y’all think? WOW
Well, I think most of last night was for dramatic effect but it still matters because lots of “Normal”viewers think Len is a real judge who knows what he is talking about. Len said once again, how disappointed he was with Derek and went on to insinuate that he had broken the rules etc. But only praise for the other couples who had less of their dances required content in them. What bothers me more, is that Derek went out of his way to try to protect his partner from the same fate as last season by not only asking Len about content but then doing that content, and plenty more and STILL had way too much deducted from Kellies scores. You, Len are the disappointment. No deduction to Zend, who did not even wear ballroom shoes(and that according to you with Master P IS A REQUIREMENT)and no deduction for all the side by side hip-hop in her salsa that wasn’t a salsa or her weak-legged FT. Praise and a higher score for Aly, flat feet, loss of timing and so many other problems with her dancing and Jacoby, whose VW was unrecognizable as such, so much out of hold, which Derek always gets slammed for, no Spanish lines in his Paso and you thought it was GREAT. All of that influences the viewers.
Derek epitomizes what this show started out to be,teaching a non-dancing celeb to dance, and apparently from his track record is a hell-u-va lot better at it than most. So the reward for he and his partners is if they get better week after week is that TPTB will do anything they can to knock them out of the running. And if that doesn’t work, they will just do what they did last season.
Of the ballroom dances I liked Zendaya’s and Kellie’s best with a slight edge to Zendaya for me, then Jacoby, then Aly, then Ingo.
For me the dance of the night was Kellie’s trio PD, brilliant! Then Jacoby and Zendaya very close but Jacoby edged out ahead for me. Then Aly. Didn’t care for Ingo’s trio or Sean’s ballroom or trio.
Overall order last night for me would be Kellie, Zendaya, Jacoby, Aly, Ingo, Sean. I don’t care which of those last 2 go home as long as it’s one of them. I wouldn’t mind a double elimination either. I don’t enjoy watching them dance, especially Sean, and I’ don’t enjoy how Ingo is so negative.
@Cher
I actually saw that interview, but I didn’t think that was what she was talking about. There’s a point in the dance where she’s dancing by herself in the front and Val and Tristan are doing something COMPLETELY different in the background, and I just assumed that was the part she went off book for. Either way, she handled it well. Most of the other celebrities wouldn’t have handled a fumble to the point of it barely even being noticable.
I wasn’t picking on Derek and Kellie for their music. That’s not something they can control. I did, however, find it annoying that Kellie’s feet were barely visible fir almost the entire routine. And honestly, I agree with Len that it lacked content. It was just hard to tell with all of the extra stuff going on around them.
@Holly
That’s the thing though. You didn’t pick on the music but Len did. It has nothing to do with you. It’s Len.
The points he brought up was less flashy lights and thumping music. As a judge he shouldn;t count off for those.
Also as a judge he should be able to tell when someone is off. We a viewers can have any perception we want because we have our favs. As a judge he shouldn’t play that way.
Understand what I’m saying? HE’S the one viewing through rose colored glasses and not playing fair.
@Cher
I get what you were saying, but from my perspective Len was upset because he didn’t think there was enough content to back it up, I guess. Personally, the theatrics wouldn’t have bothered me if I didn’t feel like they were only there to hide a problem and cover for something that was lacking. When he mentioned the lights and music, I would assume he meant the strobe lights flashing with the music, with Derek probably did have control over, at least a little.
In the interview, Zendaya said she improvised the steps, which I took to mean that she didn’t fall or stumble, but she forgot a part or something and just filled in that space with something else. With the part that you mentioned about her almost falling, were you talk about the dip she did with Gleb?
Uh, newsflash, Holly, Tristan wasn’t dancing with Val and Zendaya.
@Cidra
Did I say he was..?
@Cidra
Whoops. That was unintentional. Sorry!
Val and Gleb*
@Cher
I completely agree with you. I think the thing I have the hardest time with in reference to Len is the rose colored glasses. I don’t mind that he called out Kellie and Derek and gave them a 7…that’s expected. But what I would also expect is for him to do the same for others, such as Zendaya.
The salsa didn’t have too much Salsa content so he should have docked that as well. I was really surprised when he didn’t just based on Derek’s past trio’s with Maria and Shawn. They were great dances but he did other things creatively and he was taken off points for it. For a Salsa that had a hip hop vibe and less of a Salsa feel (hell, she even danced in sneakers), I think she should have been given a lower score as well.
That being said, I really did like Kellie’s Paso and Zendaya’s salsa. They were both danced amazing but had a different creative feel to it which I appreciate being able to see. I just think they need to be judged in the same way.
This season is so frustrating the show defiantly jumped the shark. For starters Zendaya’s Salsa was not salsa. Hip-Hop should not have been included this season as a dance considering Zendaya is already a professional hip-hop dancer they shouldve put bhangra or bollywood instead of hip-hop. I really hope Zendaya gets African Jazz and not hip-hop tonight for next week. I am starting to get excited for Battle of the Blades here in Canada for the fall because that show reminds me of how this show used to be no real gimmicks besides theme weeks but even then that just comes down to the music assigned on that show and no major manipulations on that show. I really wish u guys in the US could get that show because it is what dancing with the stars used to be about.
@ Holly.
Yes ma’am. When he dipped her she slipped just a bit.
@ Kaitlyn
Yes! Exactly.
@Cher
I’ll have to watch it again andpay closer attention to that specific move. Even if the slip up is there, I don’t think that was what she was referring to in her interview, but I could very easily be wrong.
That’s called CREATIVITY, Holly. I know it’s a hard concept to grasp when related to this show, especially as a fan of Zendaya and Val. But really, to call out Derek for that amazing Paso and then give Zendaya a 10?? THAT was not a Samba – not a recognizable one.
By the way, just because Len says something – it doesn’t make it TRUE.
They can’t actually control the fog, either, Holly and really if you’re a Zendaya fan I’m going to take your agreeing with Len for what it likely is. Seriously – you think the Paso lacked content but you were Okay with THAT samba? Um…sure. Okay.
EVEN if Len was remotely right – a 7?? No fucking way, not when compared to Zendaya and Aly. Anyone who doesn’t agree with that has their own agenda at this point.
I’ve seen at least two interviews with Derek where he says Len told him the Paso moves to put in and he does it, which was why he was surprised (but also laughing his ass off cuz he’s a lot smarter about this show than some of the viewers are). E! News was one and I think he mentioned it on Access Hollywood as well. If anyone is still looking – I’ve been away all day.
@Princess Heidi
You know what word I hate? Agenda. Everyone always has an agenda. Heaven forbid someone make a decision without any ulterior motives.
Creativity is not equal to flash and shock value. Dances can be entertaining and original without (literally) smoke and mirrors. Just because I happen to agree with Len on that specific point doesn’t mean I agree with everything he ever says. I have a mind of my own, you know, and I take pride in that.
Zendaya danced a salsa, so of course it was lacking in samba content.
I was having a respectful conversation with Cher. We didn’t agree with each other, but we weren’t yelling, either.
I wasn’t sure if I was going to comment, because I’m still not over what they did to Andy. With the judges’ scores, they pretty much made it impossible for Andy’s fans to save him – and then they acted disappointed and surprised when he was eliminated. Bah. And they got rid of him so we could endure the schlock of Sean’s and Ingo’s routines? Really? Grrr.
And then there’s a whole new batch of things to grouse about this week. Double bah.
However, Derek and Kellie’s paso was *amazing*, and their waltz was lovely.
Most of the rest of the dances were totally forgettable and overscored. I did enjoy Aly’s trio – not sure if it was just the music, or Henry, or the style of it, but it was enjoyable. Overscored, definitely. And Aly’s dancing wasn’t that amazing, so I don’t think I enjoyed it because of her. Also, I didn’t think Ingo’s foxtrot was bad either – Kym does lovely foxtrots to Sinatra-type songs.
It was also lovely to see Sharna again – I watched her during that trio, and tried to not notice Peta or Sean.
It was so difficult to see Zendaya getting raves again for nothing spectacular, and Jacoby’s mom is becoming unwatchable as well, which diminishes my enjoyment of Jacoby’s routines.
I don’t even want to get started on Len, and if Carrie Ann thinks that Ingo brings (or brought) what left when Andy did, she’s seriously delusional.
But Kellie and Derek’s dances made watching the show bearable. It was priceless to see Derek’s reaction to Len’s tirade – it’s a really good thing Derek doesn’t take the show or the judges too seriously.
@Princess Heidi Zendaya didn’t even sance Samba yesterday night,she danced Salsa.
The REAL problem with Len’s comment is that it reinforces the bullshit idea that Derek is always breaking the rules or doing dances with not enough content. To the point that LOUIS, of all people, is responding and saying that it had plenty of Paso content. THAT is the problem. Len and/or TPTB want to create controversy, yet it always seems to be at Derek’s expense when he does choreography that has the potential to benefit the show as much or more than it does Derek himself. It’s like how they build up the “bad boy” rep for Maks (although with a shit ton of help from Maks himself) – they’ve got to build up the rule breaking choreographer image for Derek. Of course, in a small way it’s gone a LONG way to make Derek accepted as the best choreographer on that show. Which means he has that rep but will never win again because there are actually idiots who believe everything Len says. Except when he picks on their favorite, of course. 🙂
I think you know exactly what I mean October – but thanks, that kinda proves my point. I couldn’t actually tell or remember what dance she danced. 🙂
Holly, repeating the same lines over and over again is not a conversation. And my point is made – couldn’t really tell what Zendaya was supposed to be dancing, if it wasn’t hip hop.
And you’ve been warned twice about talking about other people. Watch it.
PH, Do you think maybe after this season Derek will finally feel he can say goodbye to DWTS? I know he’s loyal and genuinely enjoys the show, but surely it must get a bit tiresome to do creative choreography and get called out by Len (“the ballroom judge”) for “breaking the rules” and/or “not having enough content”? If he wants a DWTS fix, surely he could come back as a guest. Then when he does his innovative choreography all 3 Stooges will ooh and aah and give him a standing ovation instead of a kick in the pants. Also, I can’t imagine he wants to be a liability to the celeb he’s paired up with; and seems to me it’s gotten to that point (or as near as makes no difference).
@ButterflyWhirl I absolutely agree with you regarding Andy. It was so frustrating watching Sean dance the way he does and Ingo act the way he does, all while TPTB set it up so that Andy was impossible to save. Andy was a ball of joy and he WANTED to be here. While Sharna loved that Andy let her do anything she wanted, jeeze, poor Kym. For Carrie Ann to claim that ‘fun’ and ‘heart’ have been restored after Andy’s departure thanks to Ingo? Seriously?
At least I got to see Sharna dance. I could totally see a little of her choreography in that trio trying to help Sean. Unfortunately so little can be done to help him.
In my eyes, Derek didn’t set out to choreograph two dances; he wanted to create art. He made me feel something when I watched those two dances. Maybe Zendaya and Aly received higher scores. Maybe Zendaya was more technically sound (though I don’t agree with this). I didn’t feel anything during their dances, though. I know that not every dance can have a story, but hey, this is why I’ve fallen in love with Sharna. I don’t want every dance to have flashing lights and numerous props, but if it necessary for the story/emotion/what have you that you are trying to convey, by all means, go for it. Take me on a journey.
Cidra, I don’t know that Derek actually cares all that much about the things Len says and does – he knows the score. I find it HILARIOUS that Val thought it was great that the judges were being “characters” after all his brother’s temper tantrums of the past – but I don’t think that Derek actually cares.
As for being a liability – I guess that depends on how you look at it. If going to the semi-final 9 out of 11 seasons is being a liability, that’s kinda crazy. If he goes to the finale again this season that’s how many seasons in a row?? Only one person can win and your chances are only 1 in 11 or 12?? That seems like much better odds than dancing with Tony, for example.
Holly – please learn to read. Where did I say the word “negative”? I said you’ve been warned about talking about other people on the site – no one said it had to be “negative” – that’s your projection. Just don’t do it.
Oh Holly you’re doing that all by yourself right now! 😉
Ok, I know this is a no-no but I have to step in this since I am somewhat responsible for it.
Holly, lay off.
Now.
I’m not going to sit here and let you talk to her like that.
You’re making yourself look bad.
honestly, I think the show would suck without Derek (as much as people made huge controversy over Maks, I’d be more sad without Derek)
As to what Len said, I don’t really care about WHAT he said but HOW he said what he said to Derek and Kellie. I mean, Len has said a lot worse and has critiqued dances like that before but it was the outburst of anger that bothered me and HOW he said it.
As what Courtney said about his comment to Bruno, I thought that was unprofessional, attacking another fellow judge with that comment that could be taken as offensive because of Bruno’s sexuality. I thought Bruno was really mature not to say anything back or even punch him in the face because if someone else made a comment like that, it would have caused a lot more controversy on the show.
I agree what Bruno said on twitter “Heated controversy @DancingABC #DWTS ultimately the fans can turn things around I totally respect that your votes count x . B” – because honestly, it is the fans who ultimately decide
Are you people blind! Derek and Kelly are awful. Sorry can’t stand Derek. I Loved Val and Zandaya’s Salsa and their foxtrot. I also love Jacoby and Karina
Of course you do, Sweetheart. LOL
Do the Children of the Corn not understand that we recognize a campaign when we see one???
As for you, Holly, name calling gets you on moderation.
That’s not really true, though. It’s always half judges/half viewer votes. The judges can influence the voting, like they did last night, or they can make it damn near impossible for someone to move forward, like they did with Andy. Saying “it’s up to the viewers” is total BS and has never actually been true. That’s what they say to keep you voting.
Post 67. Cher. That was hilarious!!
Personally I am thinking what Len did steal Zendaya’s perfect score attention. With the perfect 30 it was all about Zendaya getting that first 30. And then the moment Len fell off his rocker. The attention turned to Derek and Kellie’s dance.
Not meaning to be a troll again. But, when people say that they hope so and so comes back and gets a better partner next season. On this show that doesn’t always happen. There have been pros who stayed on it for a good while. And have yet to take that MBT. I don’t want to be Len-like. But, TPTB should consider making sure they let pros leave the show with at least one of them. From now on. Yes, it might be show business, but, if ever any of those veterans pros competing were to leave. And the show was to continue. I’m sorry the new pros aren’t ready to fill those vacancies… Sometimes I wonder if we lost the family friendly show. Especially when we are seeing more men go shirtless, and the women here lately during the pro and dance troupe wearing very risky outfits. I’m not a fan of it. Leave the Vegas like dancing in Vegas. Some of it isn’t appropriate for a family friendly show. No wonder people are getting fed up with the show. The areas that TPTB are neglecting with the show. Is the areas that are causing people to turn the TV. Just my daily opinion. Whoever TPTB bosses are needs to shake up the TPTB’s roster. And see how they like going from having a high ratings show. To losing millions of viewers. To wishing they would have listened to us more. I still haven’t given into the whole. The pros that got sat out are out for good thought. A couple I have a feeling in my gut. But, I won’t go there not until I actually see that it is for good. If DWTS does manage to survive for another season. That will be when I will have my proof. BTW the Mods know who my favorite pro dancer is. As big of a OMG season DWTS has given us. Correct me if I’m wrong but, at some point was Sharna used on SYTYCD as a pro mentor, choreographer. Not trying to start something. Yet, if I hold it in it won’t go away. The fave dancer here lately has been doing things for the upcoming season of that show. We got Witney, and Lindsay from there. Could that earlier report of conflict of interest have anything to do with the other show. Seeing how it will be starting up next week. Not saying they’ll be back for season 17. Just wondering if I’m the only one finding it suspicious. We’re seeing quite a few SYTYCD alumni appearing on the show this season. And they were from a Fox network show. Aren’t they suppose to be a competitive network against ABC. I smell a skunk coming and it’s not me. I hope I’m not trolling right now. Yet if they use the fave pro the same way others have been used on SYTYCD in the pro mentor, choreographer like way. It could end up showing a side of them that hasn’t been shown on DWTS. Due to all of TPTB mind games.
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#141: What are you smoking? Kellie and Derek are awful because you can’t stand Derek! There are people who can’t stand Zandaya because she is a ringer! She has the perfect partner who is just as cocky, Val! ONe of the Smuckovsky brothers!
@Margaret, the best way to handle the people who come here to bait others, and to start arguments and cause problems is to ignore them…. If they don’t get the response they want, they’ll go elsewhere. 🙂
If you’ve a problem with something that’s posted here, you can always click the link above to contact someone, and if there is a problem, it can easily be handled.
And while you may not like them, can you please find a way to refer to Maks and Val without calling them names? I would appreciate that.
Ok, sorry! Sometimes the comments just infuriate you, its stupidity.
Lori: I actually like Maks and Val, great dancers. Its just when they start shooting their mouths off.
Not a problem, and you’re right…. It is infuriating.