Dancing with the Stars Season 17 – PRO WATCH!!
It’s that time of year once again, boys and girls – time for Pro Watch. 🙂 I’m starting it a bit earlier than normal because we’ve gotten confirmation about Derek and a maybe about Maks earlier than ever before, as I recall. While Derek often knows very early, he’s not usually big on sharing – that seems a bit different this year. He’s confirmed he’s back with both the LA Times and Access Hollywood when they asked him. Now, it’s possible that this could just mean he’s open to it, not that he has a partner, but I suspect if he wants to do it, he gets to do it.
Also, at the TCA Summer Tour, Paul Lee, the ABC President of Entertainment, was asked about Maks and he gave an answer that was interpreted by differently by different outlets. No shock there. Access Hollywood said he said Maks “may well be back” and TV Guide said he said “likely” be back – now, call me crazy, but those are actually different interpretations. So, I am going with “maybe likely” as a happy medium. Particularly after last season, when Maks himself was saying he was back and then he wasn’t. And sorry Maks fans – it’s not a sure thing because, contrary to your world view, the ratings didn’t actually go down because Maks wasn’t there – they have been on a constant downward trend for a few seasons now, including those when Maks was present. We’ve been writing about it for a few seasons now, including after All Stars which was down 20% from season 14 – Maks was on both seasons. Sixteen was lower again = downward TREND.
As for the rest?? Well, Lizzie was asking who we wanted Val to dance with this season, but that could well be a “if we talk like it’s true it will become true” PR style. I suspect he’ll be back though. I wouldn’t count on Gleb or Louis…and maybe not even Tony. I really think they need to give Henry a shot, and I expect that both Mark and Tristan will have spots. As for the ladies, I suspect that Cheryl and Karina, and possibly Sharna, are the only sure things. Everyone else seems like they could go either way.
The big question mark for me?? Will there be a troupe?? I suspect there will be, although we won’t see them nearly as much early in the season. Don’t worry, Troupe fans – if what Paul Lee says about a possible return to two shows a week in the spring is true, then all may not be lost.
ETA1 Vogue here with an UPDATE: According to Enstarz, Val Chmerkovskiy will be dancing in Dancing With The Stars Season 17. He not only told them he will be dancing, he also told them his dream partners as well as saying, “I just want a partner who is willing to work and has a strong work ethic” and “You can be a supermodel, an actress, an athlete… but to be a good partner, you have to be willing to put in the work.” Be sure to read the link for more!
ETA2: Chelsie could be “possibly in”. See this post for more details!!
ETA3 Vogue here again: Due to this tweet by Sharna, we suspect she might be “possibly in”.
ETA4 Vogue again: After discussing this with Court and the way she read Sharna’s tweet, we’ve decided together to take out “Possibly In” for Sharna. The pros may be posting optimistically looking forward to season 17 (or the craziness of it, etc), but, that doesn’t mean they are “in” or are “possibly in”.
ETA4: This is sad. I hate to even report this, but, according to US Weekly, Kym Johnson won’t be dancing this season. She tells the magazine, that she has an “amazing work opportunity back home in Australia.” More here. Thanks to Lori for the heads up. Also, Chelsie tweeted of receiving “good and bad news”. We have no idea what she’s referring to, but, we’re changing her status to “unknown”.
ETA5: Karina is IN per @DWTSGossip!
ETA6: @DWTSGossip is also reporting Peta, Cheryl, Tony, Val, and Mark “in” as well.
ETA7: The hits just keep on coming, as DWTSGossip tweets that Maks “will not be returning” for season 17. -Court-
ETA8: The day of the furious pro watch updates continues, as DWTSGossip reveals that Anna & Chelsie are out and that Lindsay & Emma are in…although the “I guess” at the beginning of her tweet seems to leave a bit of margin for error…-Court-
ETA9: And now we have a bit of news on Henry. We think he’s “Possibly in the Troupe” or been “Promoted” because of what was tweeted in this twitter exchange. As Court just wrote to me privately, the problem with the guys right now is that we don’t know if any of the male troupe members are getting promoted. So, Henry may be in the troupe or he may have gotten promoted based on the tweet. In conclusion, we’re going to side with caution and assume it’s the troupe. -Vogue and Court
ETA10 Vogue: DWTSGossip is reporting Sharna is also “in”! She’s also reporting via twitter that she knows for a fact Sasha is not a Pro “as of now”. @Dwtsgossip writes to us that Sasha may very well still be in the running. Also, Tristan and Gleb are not confirmed yet.
ETA11: Oksana is out via Val’s twitter. Though the tweet has now been deleted. So, we’re going to mark her as “possibly out”.
ETA12: Just a little update on Troupe member Julian Tocker. He has tweeted that he won’t be dancing full time because of the new format, but, we’ll still see him around. Sad as it makes you wonder if it will be the same for some or all of the troupe members? Also, and if there is a full time troupe, how many will there be in it?
ETA13: Some good news and some bad news today (depending how you look at it and who are your favorite pros). @DWTSGossip is reporting Tristan is “in”, but, Gleb” is “out” (sad, I was hoping to see him back). So, what does this mean for the 6th male spot left? Will it be filled by a returning Pro (Louis? or did they change their mind and decide to make Maks a pro?), a promotion for a troupe member (Sasha or Henry?), or will it be someone entirely new? Penny for your thoughts!
ETA14: Guess what Kids? @DWTSGossip says she got mixed up and Gleb is IN! YAY!
ETA15: I’m baaaaacccckkkk!! And here to report that @dwtsgossip just tweeted “Sasha dancing with Snookie?? Mark out??” Clearly, those are question marks, so don’t get too excited. 🙂 If true, good for Markie – time to go full bore on that music career, bud. -Heidi
ETA16: And Markie is in…and Sasha may not be. @dwtsgossip can’t confirm him, but he/she can confirm Mark. Again, certain sources out there have a piss poor track record – dwtsgossip is not one of those, and neither is TMZ. I’ll leave it at that. 🙂 But seriously people -always consider the source. And remember no one is infallible. Don’t get worked up until September 4th. 🙂 p.s. see mark’s tweet to dwtsgossip. 🙂
ETA17: Heidi here to tell you that a few spots in Pro Watch may just be WRONG. Dead wrong. Sorry, that’s all I can say right now. We’re in for one surprise tomorrow and a couple other mild surprises. 😉 Maybe – take it with a grain of salt as usual when mysterious sources appear.
ETA18: Errr…well, the cat seems to be out of the bag on some other sites (and Heidi is already in bed), so here it goes: Lindsay has allegedly been downgraded to troupe along with Gleb, Sasha has allegedly been upgraded to pro from the troupe, and one of the “non-troupe lurkers” I mentioned almost a month ago, Tyne, has allegedly been fast-tracked straight to pro. Witney & Henry remain in the troupe, which is now only 4 strong. I’m not exactly happy with this new development (especially since Tyne, to my knowledge, is just a contemporary dancer), but I’m interested to see what you guys’ thoughts are…and keep in mind, this does seem to contradict some of what we’ve already heard from reputable sources, so take it with a grain of salt. -Court-
Male Pros
Derek – IN
Val – IN
Tony – IN
Mark – IN
Sasha – IN
Tristan – IN
Female Pros
Cheryl – IN
Tyne Stecklein – IN
Sharna – IN
Peta – IN
Karina – IN
Emma – IN
Out For the Season
Kym – judging position on DWTS Australia
Maks – OUT per DWTSGossip
Anna – OUT per DWTSGossip
Chelsie – OUT per DWTSGossip
Louis – OUT per Louis’ twitter
Lacey – Most Likely OUT
Super Troupers, Past and Present
Oksana Dmytrenko – OUT of the Troupe
Sasha Farber – Promoted to Pro
Henry Byalikov – IN Troupe
Emma Slater – Promoted to Pro
Kiki Nyemchek – OUT
Nicole Volynets – OUT
Ted Volynets – OUT
Dasha Chesnokova – OUT
Witney Carson – IN Troupe
Julian Tocker – Not dancing full time in troupe this season, but we’ll still see him around.
Gleb Savchenko – downgraded from pro to troupe
Lindsay Arnold – downgraded from pro to troupe
Perfect and good job!!! I’m ready!!! Bring this new season ON!!
I hope for this years pros..
Male Pros
Derek – YES
Maks – yes
Val – yes
Tony – needs a break
Mark – yes
Gleb – was meh
Tristan – YES
Louis – love him but doubt it
(and I hope Henry or Sasha is a pro – but I think it would be Henry)
Female Pros
Cheryl – probably will be back
Lindsay – wasn’t too impressed last season tbh
Sharna – yes!
Peta – I don’t really like her choreo
Karina – YES!
Kym – needs a break
Chelsie – yes
Anna – yes
Lacey – meh (I like her choreo)
Overall –
I hope it’s Mark, Derek, Karina, Maks, Tristan, Val, and Anna (otherwise I don’t care who is or isn’t a pro)
AHHH IT’S PRO WATCH TIME!!! :))
I hope for this years pros..
Male Pros
Derek – YES
Maks – yes
Val – yes
Tony – needs a break
Mark – yes
Gleb – yes
Tristan – YES
Louis – Hope Henry/Sasha take his place or both get a try.
Female Pros
Cheryl – NO. she needs a break
Lindsay – Yes!
Sharna – Yes!
Peta – yes
Karina – YES!
Kym – needs a break
Chelsie – yes
Anna – yes
I want Witney as pro!
I am ready!!!! Bring on the show!!!! And ready to write dancing poetry again!!!!
Assuming there will still be 12 couples(which I’m not certain about due to them having to fit in results along with the actual dances in 2 hours) then these are my hopes in order of how much I want them back:
Male: Derek, Tristan, Henry, Maks, Mark, Val
Female: Sharna, Karina, Anna, Kym, Chelsie, Cheryl
Lois, bring that new poetry on!!
And I’ll play too…
Male Pros
Derek – YES
Maks – YES (I’ve missed him and I’m curious for how the break effected him)
Val – YES
Tony – NO
Mark – YES
Gleb – YES
Tristan – YES
Louis – MAYBE
Female Pros
Cheryl – NO
Lindsay – NO
Sharna – YES
Peta – YES
Karina – YES
Kym – YES
Chelsie – YES
Anna – YES (I really missed her too last season and hope she’s back!)
Lacey – MAYBE
I too hope Henry gets a spot!!
The producers should really ask back pros who haven’t won yet, and also promote some of the troupe to pros as well. I love Derek, but the show has gotten kinda boring because he has 4 wins.
I kinda hope there aren’t any new pros,including troupe members sorry! Maybe for the guys but not the girls! Derek-YES Maks-Yes Val-Maybe(I want to like him, but for some reason I can’t he’s great though) Tony-Yes Mark-Yes Gleb-No Tristan- yes Louis-Maybe Cheryl-yes Lindsay-no Sharna-Yes Peta-Maybe Karina-Yes Kym-Yes Chelsie-Yes Anna- YES(pretty please) Lacey-No
Assuming there are 12 couples, my picks would be-
Male pros: Maks(missed him), Derek, Tristan, Val, Tony and Mark
Female pros: Anna and Chelsie(missed both of them), Karina,Sharna, Kym, and Lacey
Ryan, the show is boring because of Derek’s wins? lol I couldn’t disagree with you MORE!
I don’t think Gleb will get another shot with a celeb either.
I do think Mark would benefit from having a season off. He could concentrate on his music and come back refreshed in the Spring season.
It seems to me that whatever fan base Cheryl has built up over the years has dwindled some. She, out of all the pros really needs to take some time off from the show. She’s been running on empty for several seasons and doesn’t even bother to hide it anymore.
Yes! I love pro watch. I think I enjoy it more than celeb watch. Here are my guesses for who I think will be the pros (assuming that there are 6 and 6 although I doubt there will actually be 12 couples):
Male:
Derek
Maks
Mark
Tristan
Val
Henry
Female:
Karina
Sharna
Peta
Lindsay
Anna
Chelsie
Oh Ryan, STFU. You have been singing this song on nearly every post and I’m getting tired of your faulty ass logic. Not to mention that you’re spamming at this point.
Derek wins for a REASON. Same reason he’s been nominated for 5 different emmys. This is, not coincidentally, the exact same reason they will do anything to keep him around.
YIPPEE!! It’s that time again.
Hi everyone! It’s great to be back and gearing up for the new season. I am somewhat surprised that Derek is returning this season, but that’s okay by me. Bring it on!
Hope to see Sharna and Tristan return, as well as Henry to join the pro cast.
Derek Hough – YES!
Mark Ballas – YES!
Tony Dovolani – NO!
Tristan MacManus – YES!
Gleb Savchenko – YES!
Louis Van Amstel – YES!
Maksim Chmerkovskiy – NO!
Val Chmerkovskiy – Not Really
Cheryl Burke – YES!
Karina Smirnoff – YES!
Kym Johnson – YES!
Peta Murgatroyd – NO!
Lindsay Arnold – NO!
Chelsie Hightower – YES
Sharna Burgess – NO!
Anna Trebunskaya – YES!
Lacey Schwimmer – YES!
#14 !!!!!!! 🙂
**Derek is the only male pro IMHO who delivers each week and makes his partner shine
(and I started out as a Mark fan lol).
I’m hoping that Maks accepting Karina’s invitation to perform along side her in Forever Tango, and their reconciliation, leads to a much more happier and less stressed Maks.
I think Cheryl, Tony, Kym, and Mark need a break.
Hoping Tristan and Chelsie return and that Henry gets a chance as pro.
Ok, I’m looking forward to Season 17 already. I’ll just have to tweak my schedule a bit so that I won’t miss out on anything (happens when you’re an international fan, hehe). My pros are:
Male: Derek, Val or Maks (not both of them in the same season), Tristan, Gleb (another chance), and Henry (about time, I believe)
Female: Karina, Sharna, Kym, Anna (love redheads!), Witney
@sheery – “I’m hoping that Maks accepting Karina’s invitation to perform along side her in Forever Tango, and their reconciliation, leads to a much more happier and less stressed Maks.”
I was thinking the same thing. This is an opportunity for Maks to return and turn over a new leaf. What a disappointment it will be to see the same old Maks return.
Females – Chelsie, Anna, Sharna, Karina, Witney/Lindsay (interchangeable), Peta (default). IMO, Cheryl and Kym both need a break
Males – Derek (since he’s a go), Val, Henry, Tristan, Sasha (see what he could do), Gleb (give him another chance, although TPTB did not give Damian or Fabian one). Mark and Tony both need a break, did not miss Maks last season.
Lizzie said don’t believe the hype in regards to Maks. And Lee said he may as well be back, no confirmation. I don’t think he’ll be back IMO.
Henry is not easy to partner with. Unless Mark or Derek take a season off, i don’t see him as a pro.
Anyways, I’m not going to list who I want back because it’s who TPTB see more partner-able with the new cast.
Hopefully the 2 movies Maks is signed up for, Lost Luck and Lovin Brooklyn will start shooting soon and he can move on from Dancing WIth the Stars
Derek – Yes! Even though he shouldn’t, I’m so glad he is. I love watching what he comes up with every week no matter what dance style is thrown at him.
Maks – Hopefully not, but I’d rather have him over Val.
Val – Please no. He’s just irritated me since day one and I wouldn’t miss him at all.
Tony – Another please no. His attitude has gone downhill and he needs a break.
Mark – Yes
Gleb – No
Tristan – Yes
Louis – No
I agree with others, Henry needs and deserves the opportunity. And so does Sasha.
Female Pros
Cheryl – A big NO. Just go away.
Lindsay – Don’t care either way.
Sharna – Same as Lindsay
Peta – Like Cheryl, another big NO. Don’t like her choreography and sooo tired of the skimpy costumes.
Karina – Yes
Kym – Yes
Chelsie – Yes
Anna – Yes, I missed her last season.
Lacey – Would like to see her back.
Yay! It’s always a great day when Pro Watch returns to Pure.
My opinion on the pros list, and I’m including some Troupe members I’d like to see:
Derek – yes, yes, yes!
Tristan – absolutely yes!!
Henry – give this guy a shot, please!!!
Mark – sure (but only if he has hair)
Gleb – maybe (he’s pretty to look at, but…)
Louis – maybe
Maks – not really
Val – no
Tony – no (but who else is there for the tall, plus-size women?)
Sharna – yes, definitely
Karina – yes
Anna – yes
Chelsie – yes
Kym – maybe (I love her, but I think she’s tired)
Witney – why not give her a try instead of Lindsay?
Lindsay – maybe
Lacey – no
Peta – no
Cheryl – no
My opinions:
Derek – Already in, but would be a no from me
Maks – Yes
Val – Yes
Tony – Yes
Mark – No
Gleb – No
Tristan – Yes
Louis – Yes
Cheryl – No
Lindsay – No
Sharna – Yes
Peta – No
Karina – Yes
Kym – Yes
Chelsie – Yes
Anna – Yes
Lacey – No
He’s not the lead in either movie and both are still listed in pre-production, Evelyn, with no listed shoot date. He should be able to DWTS if he wants to and they want him to. If they had a start date that overlapped with DWTS, I would have thought it would be listed by now.
As for Lizzie, Jennifer, she also said that Maks is not her only client, implying that she wasn’t talking about him. Also being talked about is his dating life – IF she was talking about Maks, the “don’t believe the hype” could also be in regard to that. As for not listing who you want – you have a real tendency to be a kill joy.
Still (‘likely’ futilely) hoping that the show pretty much cleans house of longstanding (and a few newer) pros to help revamp and even out the show. If they insist on keeping some, Derek at least still seems innovative, invested and likeble, Karina is at least two of those. Maks shoulda been canned two years ago and Mark, Cheryl, Tony and Kym all could use a rest (though the latter two are at least still pleasant).
Of the transients, meh over Anna & Chelsie, nah on Louis, wouldn’t mind seeing Dmitry again.
Of the newer folk, I’d like to see Tristan with a partner that’s not eligible to collect SSI, Sharna given another go, and Henry promoted from the troupe. Val remains a good teacher & dancer, but his game turns me off. Gleb is an amazing dancer but not yet sold on him as personlity. Complete pass on Peta & Lindsay who are subpar on bothof those counts.
There are some amazing ballroom dancers I’d like to see brought in to refresh the show.
Derek- Yepper Depper Doodle!
Maks- Either him or Val, but not both.
Val- Im leaning towards Maks right now. I don’t want to see him after his loss with Zendaya
Tony- No
Mark- Yes
Gleb- I’ll give him another chance, but I’d rather see Henry of Sasha move up from the troupe
Tristan- Yes
Louis- No
Sharna- If she’s not on I’m gonna riot
Anna- Yes
Karina- Yes
Chelsie- Yes
Kym- Yes
Cheryl- No
Peta- Not really, only if they really need her
Lindsay- Same
Lacey- Doesn’t matter
Pro Wish List Season 17:
Men: Derek, Mark, Tony, Maks, Tristan, Gleb
Women: Kym, Cheryl, Karina, Anna, Chelsie, Sharna
Wynn, I’m wondering if amazing ballroom dancers want to be on DWTS anymore? More to the point, do TPTB want amazing ballroom dancers?
In their obsessive pursuit of the younger demo, TPTB have been moving the show from “strictly ballroom” to “ballroom lite”. So they don’t need experienced, competitive ballroom dancers. Young, flashy, journeymen hoofers seems to be what they’re after.
Derek: YES I’m so excited he’s coming back, he’s one of my favorite 😀
Maks: Meh…no, I don’t like his attitude or him, but I like to see what he can do with his partners, good and bad. So, it doesn’t matter. (and remember ‘it’s his show’)
Val: No. No. No. He’s creepy.
Tony: Needs a break.
Mark: Yes, I like him a lot.
Gleb: Give him another chance, yes.
Tristan: YES, another one of my favorites (and he’s quite pleasant on the eyes)
Sharna: I didn’t really form an opinion of her in her short run, but, sure go for it I guess.
Anna: YES, I missed her last season. She’s always been a favorite of mine.
Karina: Sure.
Chelsie: YES, same as Anna- missed her, one of my favorites.
Kym: No, she needs a break
Cheryl: No, needs a break, and I never did like her.
Peta: I was okay with her, but after her season with Gilles, she really started to bug me.
Lindsay: I’ll take her of leave her, doesn’t matter.
Lacey: YES, another favorite that I miss.
I am actually a little disappointed that Derek is coming back. I think it is time for him to move on to all those other things he is doing, and go out a winner. He doesn’t really need DWTS any longer.
These are the pros that I would like to see back:
MEN – Tristan, Val, Maks, Henry, Sasha, and Gleb
WOMEN – Anna, Peta, Karina, Chelsie, Sharna, maybe Lacey
The whole Derek doesn’t need dwts thing is true,but he wants it so I say let the man do what he wants! The show would be missing something if he left nothibg can try and compare to his choreography and his passion for dance,I love out song and dance man!
If it was up to me, I’d choose:
Anna
Chelsie
Karina
Lacey (there’s very little chance, if any, of her coming back, but she’s always been my favorite)
Peta/Witney(I much prefer Kym, but she seems tired)
Sharna
Derek
Gleb/Dmitry
Henry
Louis
Tristan
Val
@Cidra – With regards to ballroom dancers wanting to do DWTS, it’s all a bit dependent on what that particular pro’s focus is: do they want to build a career as a pro champion, or do they want to build a career as a great teacher/choreographer? And the two aren’t necessarily mutally exclusive – someone like Karina was a very decorated champion first, and then transitioned to more of a teaching role on DWTS after she retired from competition. The bf says he’d rather work on competing as a pro and building a name for himself, which he can then parlay into more of a teaching/coaching role – it’s more of a safe bet than holding out to be offered a spot on DWTS, which is a pretty slim chance. I would say the big pro champions these days – the Riccardo Cocchi’s & Yulia Zagoruychenkos and the Arunas Bizokas’s and Katusha Demidova’s of the world – make far more money and have far more rewarding careers as pro competitors/coaches than they ever would as pros on DWTS. They might pop by for the occasional pro performance, but that’s about it. Hell, sometimes I wonder if Karina feels a little dead inside doing all of these kindergarten-y routines with total beginners, after she did all of those ridiculously hard professional routines during her competition days. I don’t know if I would feel satisfied, given the same situation. I guess it all comes down to this: are you willing to set aside a bit of pride and take a risk by trying to make pro on DWTS? Or would you rather focus on your own skills and take a safer bet?
Just a side note: we have a seen a few “non-troupe lurkers” in the pro dances the past few seasons, too…don’t know that we necessarily need to add them to the list, but we may just want to keep them in mind as potential replacements for non-returning (or promoted) troupe members. The three big ones I’ve noticed are Tyne Stecklein, Jaymz Tuaileva, and (cringe) Armen Way. All three were repeat lurkers last season, which makes me wonder if they’re testing the waters.
I’m glad Derek is returning for S17. He doesn’t need the show but I daresay the show needs him.
Maks-no
Val-NO especially after his loss with Zendaya(was practically GIVEN the MBT and still couldn’t pull it of)
Mark–no, let him take a season off to concentrate on his music
Gleb-yes could’ve done better with a capable partner
Tony-no time to retire
Tristan–yes
Louis–no
Female Pros
Cheryl–No, she checked out a while ago
Lindsay–no she’s too green
Sharna–yes
Peta–NO her choreo sucks, she lucked out with Donald Driver
Karina–yes, she’s the best female pro
Kym–No
Chelsie–Yes
Anna–Yes
Lacey-Yes, her choreo is stunning
I’d like to see Henry moved up from the Troupe!
Court, I seem to recall you and I discussing Jaymz (gag) after he completely blew at least one bumper dance with Cheryl – totally blew. I would bet we don’t see him. 🙂
Wasn’t Armen eliminated early on in SYTYCD this season??
Actually, I think that Derek and Tristan balance out the Chmerkovskiy arrogance with their niceness – if you have too much of either the arrogance or the nice with no counterpoint, it gets to be too much. I’d be horrified of having Val and Maks (and Tony) with only Tristan as a counterpoint.
Did yall I think I was gone for good? 😀 Think again! Haha ive just been super busy and traveling a lot, plus last season was kinda of…boring and I lost interest mid-way through, but when I saw Pro-Watch I immediately became excited again. 😛 Plus i’m actually excited about the changes this show is making, it definitely needs a shot in the butt, season 10 style or even more so. They just need to get a real zinger of a cast and one that draws people in most importantly though I think. As for my pro choices…
MEN:
Derek – Yes
Louis – Actually id like to see him back
Tristan – Yes but not with an old person
Maks – Yes he’s funny
Tony – He probably needs a break but I always like him!
Mark – Meh, I don’t care either way
Gleb – Seemed like a cool guy. Would like to see him with a more able partner
Val – I don’t give a crap 😛
Corky – YES 😛
WOMAN
Kym – Can never say no to Kym!! YES
Karina – Yes
Anna – Missed the sass. YES
Chelsie – Yes
Peta – No not really
Lindsay – Whatever
Sharna – Yes shes awesome
Lacey – Probably not realistic but YESSS!! So badly I want her to come back.
Ashly C. – Far fetched but YES!
Edyta – Same as Ashly
Thanks for the insight, Court. From what you say, I see little advantage for any of the top ballroom champions to sign on with DWTS unless they have a hankering for the kind of tabloid celebrity that a few of the current DWTS pros have.
HAHAHA Heidi i totally agree. Me being a latin ballroom dancer, Jaymz has sloppy technique and he annoyed me being in EVERY troupe number. The only ones i would love to see in troupe is Tyne(she is well known in the dance industry) and Armen he is a fabulous latin dancer. I would love to see Henry Sasha and Witney move up to pro. I would like Dasha to come back but she won’t for a while she is competing and doing DAMN well! i hope troupe is back. I would like to see Oksana,Jonathan(her bf,amazing latin dancer),Jenna Johnson/Brittany Cherry(SYTYCD.Jenna probably won’t this season she is on sytycd tour, Brittany could possibly because she got eliminated early but she is fabulous and danced with derek.), Julz,Armen and Tyne.
I’m just crossing my fingers and hoping for Chelsie’s return!! I missed her so much last season!!
For what it’s worth, Lacey’s Latin technique was also atrocious and she made pro…just sayin’. Jaymz drives me nuts, too, but I can’t shake the feeling that we haven’t seen the last of him…or Armen, who is like a weird hybrid of Mark & Val: a bit spazzy in his dancing, and another Russian guy that fancies himself a gangsta rapper. I can tolerate Tyne, but she isn’t a ballroom dancer…so I’m a little confused as to why they’ve been pushing her.
Okay…. My take..
Male Pros
Derek – IN I wish he had finished on a high, and off to do better than the show, but still, will love to see him one last time.
Maks – Hopefully NOT.
Val I prefer him to Maks
Tony I like Tony as a great person, but would love to see him have a break
Mark I am iffy on him… He’s been on and off for so long, I wonder which Mark we’ll see, and fear it’ll be the wrong one.
Gleb… Nice person, but maybe a bit too nice for this show.
Tristan Definitely yes.
Louis
Female Pros
Cheryl No. Break needed, probably will be on.
Lindsay No.
Sharna Yes.
Peta No.
Karina Yes.
Kym I would greatly prefer her to Cheryl.
Chelsie No.
Anna Maybe.
Lacey
Out For the Season
Nobody Yet 🙂
Super Troupers, Past and Present
Oksana Dmytrenko
Sasha Farber
Henry Byalikov Yes.
Emma Slater – OUT (congrats for moving to Pro on SCD!)
Kiki Nyemchek
Nicole Volynets
Ted Volynets
Dasha Chesnokova
Witney Carson Possibly.
None of the rest of the troupe has impressed me at all…
Ugh! Seems to me TPTB are just continuing their pathetic old white guy efforts to morph a very successful, but aging, ballroom dance show into something they mistakenly think the younger demo wants to watch. 🙄 That could explain why they’re pushing Tyne, the non-ballroom dancer, and the ridiculously-named Jaymz. *sigh* Nothing against them, I’m sure they’re fine at their style. I’m just not interested in seeing them on DWTS.
Lol…the only thing more irritating to me than a dumb name is a normal name with a dumb/overly complicated spelling 😛 Since when did “James” become insufficient?
For what Courtney was saying about a professional dancer (who has accomplishment in the pro dance scene) vs. a dancer straight from SYTYCD (and doesn’t have as much experience – maybe in the junior level?)
I would rather watch a dancer who made a career from the professional scene come on the show because I love seeing the interaction from a professional and a beginner.
Example: When Karina came on the show in season 3, she was at the height of her professional success in the competition world and you can see how much she is an excelled dancer in comparison to someone who may have danced their entire child hood and went on SYTYCD (ex: Whitney, Chelsie, Lacey, Lindsay)
I`m not trying to say that those who didn`t make a career out of dancing are horrible dancers because they obviously have to be skilled enough to be considered a pro but.. if you were to put someone like Karina or Anna beside any of those girls from SYTYCD, you can tell they are on an entirely difference level as a dancer which is what I personally love to watch especially in the pro numbers.
Continued..
but DWTS is an entertainment show and they do want younger/fresh faces (Lindsay being 19 – who was a pro last season) represented that “All American girl — sort of like Chelsie was when she first came on DWTS years ago. And as you can tell over the seasons, Karina who was very strict and all business in her first season has now taken the process as something that she can enjoy and have fun with her partners (which appeals to the TV audience)
I don’t know if what I said made sense (sort of rambling) but personally I would love to see pros who actually have accomplishments in the pro scene but ultimately, they choose on what will appeal to viewers.
This is what I want to happen
Male Pros
Derek – yes (not the same without him)
Maks – yes (acutully missed him)
Val – maybe (doesn’t matter to be, personally like Maks better, but 100% he will be back)
Tony – maybe (too much of a nice guy to say no to him)
Mark – yes (Whether people like him or not, it won’t be the same without him)
Gleb – maybe, (doesn’t matter)
Tristan – yes (I really think this will be his season to shine)
Louis – please no (annoyed me alot during all stars, so it will take alot for me to like him again)
Henry- Yes (only cuz it is really likely to happen)
Female Pros
Cheryl – yes ( have nothing against her, she’s welcomed lol)
Lindsay – yes (want her back, but doesn’t seem likely)
Sharna – YES (very likely)
Peta – maybe (doesn’t matter to me)
Karina – YES! (one of my favorites)
Kym – YES (always liked her and she’s good!”
Chelsie – yes (Love her as a person, maybe a teacher not so much, but want her back)
Anna – yes (after watching after buzz every week really miss her!)
Lacey – maybe (doesn’t matter)
I know I said yes to 7 females, its not who I think will be on, its just how I feel if they were to be on.
Ugh. Derek and Maks are likely coming back… But I want both of them gone! Derek is getting to big for the show. He needs to take a page from his sister’s book and leave the show so he can become even bigger! I love Derek, and it would be hard to see him leave, but he’s gotsta go.
Maks… just needs to go. I know there are some hard/die hard fans of his, but honestly? I think his popularity is rapidly declining. Broham just needs to “retire” from the show.
I’m conflicted. On one hand I don’t want to see a wholesale cleaning out of the pros, because I know them and feel comfortable with them and I really don’t want to see them replaced by people who have less ballroom experience. (Although I’m afraid that is the direction the show is going.)
On the other hand, I can’t come up with a lot of pros I want to see back.
Derek, yes, if he really wants to be there.
Karina, because she is an amazing dancer.
Anna, because I enjoy her and she seemed to be so much fun last season during the pro dances. Maybe a divorce made her seem “unburdened”, who knows.
Tristan, because I want him with a good partner.
Sharna. I’ve liked so far.
After that, I find it hard to come up with names. I could stand ONE C brother, if they are on good behavior.
Mark, OK, if he’s not going through one of his “weird” stages.
No to Cheryl. She has just been phoning it in for years. Kym seemed so unhappy last season. I think she is over the show. Peta seems to be a one-trick pony and I’m not thrilled by the trick. Tony is just Tony. Gleb and Lindsey, eh. Chelsie seems sweet but I keep forgetting her.
My picks: Karina, Anna, Sharna, Chelsie, Derek, Maks, Tristan, and Val. I like Kym, Tony & Mark but think they all need to a break/move on. Please no Cheryl, Peta, Lindsey, and troupe. The verdict is still out on Gleb for me…although he’s nice to look at. Can I put another plug in for David Duchvony for one of the stars next season?! He would be definitely be some good eye candy! (like Apolo was for me back in Season 15!)
Oh forgot to mention I don’t think Lizzie asking about who they want Val to be paired with means he’s back because Mark’s management also tweeted out the same question about who do people want to see Mark paired with.
Derek = my reason for living.
But I hate him for coming back. I really do. Baaaaaad for him.
YAY VAL IS IN!! 🙂
Pro Watch Update! Val is in!!
I am so darn happy Derek is back for another season! Selfish, I know, because I agree with everyone who says he has outgrown the show and needs to concentrate on his burgeoning non-DWTS career success. But I can’t help it. I just love watching him dance!! I hope TPTB gave him a huge whopping raise as an incentive to return, because, imho, he raises the quality and excellence of the show to amazing heights.
As for the rest:
Maks – No, please stay away. I hate him after how he treated Hope.
Val – yes, only becasue he isn’t quite as obnoxious as his brother and is a far better dancer.
Tony – No, please retire. His dancing makes me yawn.
Mark – yes, but only if he wears his pretty hair; that bald look was gross.
Gleb – Nah, too boring.
Tristan – Yes, absolutely, and I hope he gets a younger partner.
Louis –No, he annoys me
Henry- Yes
Female Pros:
Cheryl – Yes, only because I am used to her
Lindsay – No, too inexperienced to handle the teaching role although I like her as a dancer
Sharna – Yes
Peta – Either way, I’m OK
Karina – Yes, absolutely
Kym – Yes, absolutely
Chelsie – Meh, not crazy about her teaching or her dancing
Anna – Yes, absolutely, I think she is a gorgeous dancer
Lacey – Either way is OK
Whitney: I wish TPTB would add her to the pro list; she is a gorgeous dancer and I would love to see what she does with a teaching/choreo.
This was fun, thanks!
Here are my choices/preferences (of what I’d like to happen):
Male pro’s
Derek – Yes, if he wants it, love to see his choreography
Maks – Nah, I think the show was ok without him.
Val – yes, only because he is a great dancer…
Tony – No
Mark – No
Gleb – Good looking but somewhat boring to watch
Tristan – Yes, hopefully with a young partner
Louis – No
Henry – Yes
Female Pro’s:
Cheryl – No
Lindsay – No
Sharna – Yes, love her choreography and sassiness
Peta – No, getting kinda tired of her
Karina – Yes, absolutely
Kym – No, she looked really unhappy last season
Chelsie – Yeah, wouldn’t mind seeing her back; love to see her dance
Anna – Yes, missed her
Whitney – not sure
Hey I want dancing with 5he stars to start already.
I was hoping that Maks would just stay away this season (and every other season thereafter). But unfortunately I have already read an article on Will He or Won’t He Return …. So, the Maks games have begun. Ugh!!
One C-Brother is enough.
Agree with a lot of the other posters, I think
Male pro’s
Derek – Selfishly like to see him dance, but would like for him to spread his wings and fly. Hope he gets to do a lot of pro dances.
Maks – With his personality when he came back to do the extra dances – old fun Maks please!
Val – Without an attitude! No showmances please. Suspect he could be on a mission to prove himself this season.
Tony – No
Mark – Think he’d rather be elsewhere, but when he’s on form, he’s good.
Gleb – Good looking but somewhat boring to watch – happy to give him another chance with a more able partner.
Tristan – Yes, hopefully with a young partner. Love him but not sure he has the choreography or drive to go all the way.
Louis – No – didn’t rate his dancing with Sabrina in all stars.
Henry – Yes – though he, Derek and Val are quite similar. Hope they give him his shot but if the other two are back, maybe not.
Female Pro’s:
Cheryl – No – she could do with a rest, but think she’ll be back.
Lindsay – No – she needs to mature a little.
Sharna – Yes, loved her choreography last season. Like to see her with someone able.
Peta – Not really a fan – with someone where she doesn’t rely on the sexy card then OK.
Karina – Yes, absolutely
Kym – No, she looked really unhappy last season
Chelsie – I love to see her dance – so prefer her to Lindsay.
Anna – Yes, missed her and thought she was amazing when she came back last season for extra dances.
Whitney – not sure she’s quite ready for teaching role, but girl can dance! Definitely for bumper dances etc.
Rather not have too many in the troupe – limit them to bumper dances etc, and would prefer to limit it too ones we know – not a fan of some of the extra SYTYCD alumi. When pros get to dance – keep it to them so we can see who is who.
I disagree…One C brother is not enough, but better than none at all.
Val and Maks…glad Val will be. Selfishly want Maks back,although I’m
afraid he’s moved on. Love those Ukrainian thugs. 🙂
Tony…Doesn’t matter. I’m sure he’ll be around for the tall ladies.
Gleb…Not really. He was just “there”. Not interesting
Tristan..Yes! how can you not love this Irish “cutie patootie”
Louis…Yes, he’s always been on of my favorites!
Henry…OK. give him a chance.
Derek…Don’t care. Not my fav,so I don’t pay that much attention to him.
Mark…Another “sandwich break” guy. Don’t care. I’m sure they’ll both be there this season.
Chelsie…Yes. Love her.
Anna…Yes, Love her,too! She was so good in the side by side dances last season
Sharna…Yes, thought she was wonderful with Andy Dick.
Karina…Yes, she’s simply stunning.
Lacey..Yes, really like her.
Kym…Either way. If she wasn’t on I wouldn’t miss her
Peta..She seemed better her first season. Wouldn’t miss her, either
Lindsay…seemed a little overwhelmed. Don’t think she’s ready.
Cheryl…my least favorite. Wouldn’t miss her at all.
I am just meh with Henry. I watched his stint on dwts Australia and he was just okay. He is creative but something about him and Sasha are bit much for me. it is a minority opinion, i kmow. No problem giving him a chance but not at the expense of say Derek or Val. Tony? Fine. For all the talk he gets old ones and Derek gets young ones, when you compare the choreography when they has similar types Tony is not memorable.
I would love to see Tristan with a younger person only so people will stop saying how unfair it is and how Tristan is robbed, I do not think his strength is choreography so not thinking it will be stellar say like Derek, he is a good teacher, I think he is a stellar, no drama teacher who showcases his partner well. I also appreciate Tristan lacks the desperation vibe some pros give off to be on the show.
Lacey’s Latin is not stellar but since the show is doing more hop hop, contemporary, etc, I would
Love to see her back. She was one of the most all around dancers on sytycd. Same with bringing Dmitry back, I would rather see Dmitry back than Gleb or troupe. Best is bringing Pasha back.
Oops, I meant bring Pasha from SCD. They did ask him to join in season 12.
Derek: NOOO (love him to death , but he needs bigger and better things , the show is holding him back big time)
Tony: honestly I’d rather watch a pile of dog poop
Val: I’d rather drink out of a toilet than have his face on my TV (his arrogance and cockiness are unbearable, bitterness is a damn hard pill to swallow , but for the love of God YOU LOST GET THE HELL OVER IT)
Maks: I’d be cool with it if they would duct tape his mouth shut the whole run of the season
Tristan: YES. How can you not love him ?? Give him an “able” partner though
Henry: give the guy a chance , very likable
Mark: he’s creative, fun, and easygoing . So I like him YES
Chelsie: my favorite female pro. YES
Cheryl: don’t really care
Kym: love her , but she might need a break
Anna: yes
Lacey: lose the attitude , then yes
Karina: she’s definitely a must , my 2nd favorite pro overall
Hope Val shows better sportsmanship if he gets to the finals again, but I fear if Mad Maks is back he will just follow his lead. Really hope all the Maks hype is just to generate buzz. But something tells me that now that he and Karina did the Broadway thing again, he will be back on the show and they will continue to play that same old game of “are they or aren’t they together again”. Plus throw in Peta and how will she act and again you have a soap opera centered around dancing. Thank God Derek is back to provide the show with some class and respectibility!
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Hi all just back from FL. Been Taking care of my parents. They have no A/C no Wi-Fi and two channels on a very small TV. So I am a bit out of the loop, but glad to be back in this century. Excited to be close to another season. As for the pros:
Derek-Yea!!
Val-ok don’t really care, but he is easy on the eyes.
Tristan- Yes
Mark-Yes
Henry-Would like to see what he can do.
Kim-Agree she looked tired last season.
Cheryl-NO
Peta-NO
Sharna-Yes
Lindsey-no
Whitney-maybe
Karina-Yes
Anna-Yes
Chelsie-don’t care
Can’t wait for the cast announcement.
Seems like Kym is ready to move on but I would love to have her stay maybe replacing Brooke or Carrie Ann. Obviously not this season but in the future. She is well liked too.
I think Cheryl and Tony need a break. They have been on the longest with no break. Like Derek, Cheryl has gone far a lot of seasons too so probably more tired than Tony and could use time to recharge.
Karina is a pro whose dancing is amazing and has gotten better over the years and underrated as a choreographer IMO. She is the opposite of Maks who got worse the longer he stayed on.
Val was fine until the end. He lacks Maks loud nature but his passive aggressive digs are worse. All season long, acting like what he did with Zendaya was the best thing ever and no other celeb got such challenging choreo. You would think he would empathize more and see what Derek experienced with Nicole but seemed more defensive. Those tweets after the loss and not even saying kind words like Shawn and Derek did when they lost ( unfairly IMO) to Melissa. Bad sports.
Seeing Karina and Anna dance, notice more how deficient Witney and Lindsay are in comparison.
From a tidbit on shape magazine’s instagram, Cheryl will be returning.
Jennifer, Cheryl may be “returning” (or I think the word they used was “catch”) but, that isn’t a confirmation that she’ll be a pro.
Hey guys… have you heard anything about Emma? Because she’s no longer on the Strictly Come Dancing new pros page, for some reason, and she was on there before. Unless there was some kinda glitch, we didn’t know if she’s ended up going back to DWTS or something else.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/strictlycomedancing/posts/Strictly-pro-dancers-2013-line-up-revealed
I’m not convinced Emma is going to be a SCD pro any more. The blog post which announced Emma, Aljaž, Janette and the return of Iveta on the BBC Strictly website is still there, but the section about Emma has been mysteriously removed.
Wow, that’s curious. If Emma isn’t going to be a pro on SCD, I hope it’s because DWTS wants her as a pro for Season 17. I’d be very sad for her if she got dumped from SCD for some stupid reason and ended up back in the Troupe on DWTS. I think she’d make a good teaching pro.
Male Pro’s
Derek – I’m with most people on him…LOVE HIM, but really wants to see him be able to move and do other things.
Maks – Maybe…I feel like Forever Tango/Karina mellowed him out a bit
Val – Maybe…he’s starting to come into his own, but his personality can be nails on a chalkboard to me.
Tony – No
Mark – No
Gleb – Would like to see him get another shot.
Tristan – Yes
Louis – No
Henry – Yes…I’ve been dying to see what he can do.
Female Pro’s:
Cheryl – Please NO
Lindsay – No…wasn’t ready at all. Pooooooooor man’s Chelsie!
Sharna – Yes
Peta – No
Karina – Yes…she’s my favorite!
Kym – No…she was checked out last season…but I still love her!
Chelsie – Yes…I really missed her last season.
Anna – No…LOVE her dancing and personality, but I’m not a fan of her teaching/choreography at all. I know I’m in the minority here, but I really didn’t miss her in that regard.
Whitney – I don’t know if she’s ready yet, but the girl can DANCE!
Hope she is back on dwts then as a pro. If they promote Witney over, ugh. Bad enough Lindsay got a pro spot over Emma.
Unfortnately Emma is leaving us she is on her way to London now. I noticed Iveta,Janette and the other pro are already in london. Emma tweeted to chelsie and sasha saying how much they inspired her and Chelsie responded we will miss you over here. Then i went on Emma’s facebook and Sasha posted on her wall “have a safe trip baby.” AWWW…i’m sad! #comebackemma i know she will do great out there i’m gonna watch just to see her finally be used for her talents. Best wishes Emma! 🙂
Thanks, Grant. Seems like our Emma is going to be a pro on SCD. So maybe the scare of her not being on SCD’s new pro page anymore was just that, a “scare”. Maybe they were just updating her info.
I want Emma to have her chance, and if that means SCD instead of DWTS, then that’s OK. As long as she gets a shot with a celeb on one of the shows, I’m happy. 🙂
I’m still not sure. SCD Pro rehearsals start tomorrow, and Emma’s in New York with Derek tomorrow, isn’t she? I thought that’s what everything Grant refers to was about – she’s flying/flew to New York. Emma’s never really mentioned anything about SCD at all on Twitter either. I suppose it’s feasible that she’s flying to London after her other engagements and joining rehearsals late, but I don’t know. Interestingly, Anya Garnis *is* in London with Iveta, Janette etc., though that might be completely unrelated.
Interesting. Anya should be a pro on either SCD or dwts. She is an amazing dancer. The difference between an Anya or Anna to say Witney and Lindsay so obvious no matter how much tptb may want young. Anya and Pasha together on scd would be fun. Too bad tptb never snagged Anya and Pasha sooner for dwts. But I sensed Nigel was keeping them for sytycd for awhile. Only smart thing Nigel ever did in awhile.
Emma appearance with Derek is in the evening. Unless she plans on going to London from NYC for the next day.
As I’m going through the list of the pros/dancers I really want to see, I’m starting to think that a bit of a shake-up might be in order – because there’s not that many of them I’m really *excited* about seeing.
Pros I’m excited about
Derek – Selfishly glad I’ll get to watch him dance some more
Henry – Would love to see what he can do
Sharna – Was really impressed with her last season
Karina – probably the best female pro on the show
Pros I’d like to see dance this season (or wouldn’t mind seeing)
Tristan – such a sweetheart, but his choreo isn’t of the caliber that makes me excited – looking forward to him anyway
Gleb – sure, why not? Let’s give the guy another chance
Lindsay – like with Gleb, I’m willing to give her another chance
Witney – she sparkles when she dances – however, that may not translate to being a good teacher and choreographer, but it would be interesting to see what she can do
Chelsie – down to earth style
Anna T. – I like her as a dancer; she tends to be hit or miss with her partners – some she clicks with, but others are rather awkward
Pros I think need a break, or would really rather not see
Tony – needs a break
Val – I keep trying to like him, because he’s a really good dancer, but by the end of the season, he becomes incredibly annoying and difficult to watch
Maks – I’d just as soon not have him back
Louis – With the right partner, he can be great (for instance, with Kelly O) – but usually his personality is a little grating
Mark – has kind of checked out, and could really use a break. When he’s fully committed, he can be great – but I don’t think he’s been fully committed for a few seasons at least
Dmitry – has never seemed to have much personality; rather dull
Kym – I love her, and she’s one of my favorite female pros, but I think she really wants a break
Cheryl – needs a break ASAP (plus she’s never been a favorite of mine)
Peta – has been dropping lower and lower on my list of female pros; I think she’s a one-trick pony and it’s getting a rather tiresome
Lacey – I often find her personality rather annoying, but with an attitude change, she might be fun to have back
As far as the rest of the troupe, I really have no desire to see them become pro (other than Emma, but she’s booked for SCD).
I think new blood from somewhere (non-troupe) might be good. There were some great ballroom dancers who auditioned for SYTYCD (and some were older than 18, which would be good). I’d really love Anya Garnis as a pro (as well as Pasha – but I think he’s committed to SCD). Or just find someone new – preferably older than 18 or 19 – who has some competition and teaching background. I don’t have to have seen them or heard of them before. There are also some pros from *way* back that I wouldn’t mind seeing again (and there’s of course very little chance that they’ll come back on the show – Damian Whitewood, Fabian, Nick Kosovich, Inna Brayer, and Julianne Hough.
It will be interesting to see how everything pans out – looking forward to the season.
Lacey bothered me a lot when she was on, but maybe being away and the C brothers antics worse, I want to see Lacey back over Lindsay or Witney. Lacey has better choreo and she far more versatile than those two. Witney, for all the show trying to push her and make her happen, she bugs me. Maybe it is the same amount of camera seeking I saw in her that I saw in Lacey ( both sytycd and dwts). Maybe time to grow up a bit and then be a pro would be better.
Feel Julianne at her age to do what she did was a lightening in a bottle moment that abc has tried to copy. They can’t. Feel Julianne was more mature than those two ( given her life experience living abroad and all) no surprise. The show should accept that and move on.
Besides so many blondes lately, not seriously, they are all interchangeable at this point.
Lacey bothered me a lot when she was on, but maybe being away and the C brothers antics worse, I want to see Lacey back over Lindsay or Witney. Lacey has better choreo and she far more versatile than those two. Witney, for all the show trying to push her and make her happen, she bugs me. Maybe it is the same amount of camera seeking I saw in her that I saw in Lacey ( both sytycd and dwts). Maybe time to grow up a bit and then be a pro would be better.
Feel Julianne at her age to do what she did was a lightening in a bottle moment that abc has tried to copy. They can’t. Feel Julianne was more mature than those two ( given her life experience living abroad and all) no surprise. The show should accept that and move on.
Besides so many blondes lately, seriously, they are all interchangeable at this point.
I’ve been thinking for quite a bit, and since it was mentioned, I’m running with it….
I WANT a big shake up with the pros! I WANT to see “new blood” on the show! I WANT to see the show back the way it used to be…….
Let’s face it…. We NEED to have a big shake up, to make things more interesting! Right now, the pros have become bigger stars than the stars…. I’m sure C could tell us more, but I am sure that the producers have a LOT of Professional Ballroom dancers they could call, who would drop everything and RUN for the opportunity! Example: Gleb was called just 2 or 3 days before he met Lisa last season.
Derek is great, he’s THE best choreographer the show has ever had, and is probably THE ONLY chance it’ll ever have to nab an Emmy for choreography. Period. But, he’s got a LOT of irons in the fire, and while he thrives on being busy, there’s still the fear of burn out. And while talking of Houghs, I’d love to see Julianne on, but I don’t think she will be…. Too much time has passed. And Mark? He’s also got other interests taking his time.
Tony and Cheryl and Maks have been on all or almost all of the seasons since season 2. With 2 of them, can we say “burnout?” With the other, while I can see why he is a popular dancer, I don’t care for his teaching style, or some of his attitude that I’ve seen. And as for Val, well…. He seemed to have potential, but as the seasons pass, he seems to be picking up his brothers worse habits.
Peta? No. Chelsie, Lindsay and Whitney? While great dancers, they all were hired to simply re-create the magic that the show had with Julianne. Chelsie has grown a LOT on the show, but she’s still missing something. And I keep going back to Helio’s 2 seasons, and how different he was, and his dancing was, with Julianne and Chelsie. Lindsay and Whitney simply need more time to gain a LOT more life experience, although, I do think Whitney has the potential to be that Julianne 2.0 that the producers are DYING to get!
I LOVE Kym! I fear she’s also reached that burnout stage, but she is the sweetest person EVER! I also love Karina, she’s probably the ONLY one who has the ability to reach what Derek has, choreography-wise. She’s grown tremendously as a teacher and a choreographer. Louis? I USED to love him, he HAD been my favorite pro… Yes, he’s got the pedigree, yes, he is a GREAT choreographer, and teacher… But he’s also got his pride and jealousy, and it’s been his HUGE downfall more than once. Once he gets his “jealous face” on, he goes downhill, and takes his partner with him.
Sharna and Tristan are PROOF! that New Blood can succeed on the show! And I think we need more like them!
Lori, I agree 100% with your post.
The job of the pros is to teach a celeb how to not only dance ballroom but to perform those dances on a live TV show.
Now, on paper that looks fairly straightforward but in reality their are many other caps that the pro has to put on.
Psychologist, cheerleader, choreographer, costume designer, stager, media appearances. It’s rather mind boggling actually.
That’s not mention if you happen to get a dance partner who’s a bit of a loony tune or excessively full of themselves or insecure.
No wonder the pros get burned out, which burns out us, the viewers. It’s no fun to watch a pro going through the motions with dead eyes and dead choreography and it’s not fair to their celebrity partner.
It really makes me appreciate Derek and Karina. They show up every season with enthusiasm, creativity, professionalism and charm.
I’m not suggesting that the producer’s do a wholesale culling of the pro field, but at least alternate them. Some sit out one season, some sit out the next. Then they have room to bring in new blood while still retaining some old favorites.
I would love alternating pros between fall and spring seasons. Also clears up schedule for pros who have other projects. The show also needs to give up on Julianne 2.0. Not going to happen. Julianne had charisma and her pairing with Apolo was just special that season. You cannot recreate that no matter how much they try with Witney or Lindsay. Neither had that on sytycd so not seeing it on dwts.
What would be interesting is keeping some pros but maybe not in the same role. Think Kym would be a great judge. Wouldn’t mind seeing Derek judging either. Then maybe doing some special performances so his creativity has an outlet.
@Susan2, alternationg really like the idea of alternating the pros spring and fall. The pros who are sitting out could work on their outside projects but also be available for randon season appearances. Also knowing their pro will be on alternating seasons might limit the relentless internet campaigning by their fanbases, but I doubt it.
@Melissa, could not agree with you more about TPTB trying to recreate Julianne 2.0 with Chelsie, Lindsay and Witney. IMO, they should be allowed to make their own places but I also realize show business doesn’t always work that way. As I like Chelsie and can tolerate Lindsay and Witney, I have been afraid TPTB could just dump all three of them and start over in their search over for the next Blond Mormon.
@Lori, I though Chelsie did a good job with Helio during All-stars, but, IMO, their results also showed how much the Julianne factor was part of him winning Season 5. But I could also be prejudiced as I was not an Helio fan seaaon 5 and all-stars just reinforced that opinion.
Emma is no longer going to appearing on Strictly Come Dancing.
She has been removed from the BBC official website and her picture no longer appears on the roll-call of professional dancers. What that means in regards to her appearance on DWTS I don’t know, but Emma is not going to be appearing on Strictly 2013.
Cidra: “Wynn, I’m wondering if amazing ballroom dancers want to be on DWTS anymore? More to the point, do TPTB want amazing ballroom dancers?”
It does appear TPTB are moving more away from the core of the show, which is largely why my enjoyment, with rare exception, continues to wane with the seasons. I’m with those that prefer the purists from the competitive dance world verses the exhibitionists from more contemporary arenas. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t room for both types of dancers and the hybrids. I just hope in all its youngunization direction, that the show remains inclusive to the former. Of course there remains that issue of who would be willing to do actually do it as well as who would actually bee good at it.
Ok guys i don’t know rather to take this with a grain of salt or not. But anyway i follow a lot of the strictly come dancing pros on twitter they tweeted all day about how fun rehearsals with ALL the strictly pros. So i’m thinking if Emma was a pro she would not only be on the website some pro would’ve tweeted we miss you or something. Emma being with Derek in NYC and doing tour round with him is giving me hope that she is still with DWTS and is a DWTS PRO. if so i will have to re- write my Pro wish list.
Males:
Val -YES
Derek- YES
Tristan – Yes
Henry- Yes
Sasha- YES
Gleb- Yes
Females: (a change up)
Lindsay- YES
Karina – Yes
Sharna- Yes
Witney- Yes
Emma- HELL YES!
Chelsie or Anna i can’t decide.
THOUGHTS?
Wynn, love your word “youngunization” 🙂 Like you, I’m willing to share the show, it doesn’t have to be “strictly ballroom” with only ballroom pros. However, if they swing too far to contemporary and jazz, and ditch most of the ballroom dances, they’ll have to bring in dancers who can dance and teach contemporary, hip-hop, jazz, etc. That would make for a lot of fresh faces, but they’ll be dancing stuff that doesn’t interest me.
If Tristan’s in, I’ll watch – otherwise, I’ll do what I did when they dropped Alec — make like a tree and LEAVE. I’ve about had it with this rigged mess but anyway I love to play ‘guess who’s on’ so here goes:
Male:
1 TRISTAN – and for God’s sake, give him somebody who’ll make the finale!
2 Gleb instead of Maks, and Maks AND Derek makes an uncomfortable situation, but if Derek weren’t on, I’d be ok with Maks – still prefer Gleb though for the big Russian slot, or better still DMITRY
3 Sasha instead of Mark (but we need one shorty so if not Sasha, then Mark)
4 Tony, somebody needs the hopeless one and it better not be Tristan who gets her!
5 Val
6 Derek’s reported in — but I’d probably pick somebody new like Jaymz Tuaileva or maybe Henry, but only because Derek gets propped too much and I’d relish a break, like we had in Season 12, one of the highest watched seasons btw, without the hallowed prince!
FEMALE
1 ANNA!
2 Kym
3 Karina
4 Sharna
5 Emma – looks like she’s out after being in, on Strictly Come Dancing, so if they don’t give her a spot, it doesn’t seem fair! Derek’s been dancing with her a lot — wonder if he’s the reason she’s not gonna be on Strictly, as planned, but will be on DWTS – because he’s asked for her ??
6 Chelsie for the little ‘un – I didn’t think Lindsay “popped” at ALL – and she’s pretty tall anyway. We need a shortie, and I think Chelsie has a cute sort of chill personality. Don’t know why they don’t seem all that taken with her. But NO to Ashly and I don’t think Oksana would work as well, personality-wise. I think Witney’s small (she’s been dancing with Sasha for some exhibitions or something) so maybe give her a chance but I’d rather have Chels.
Witney just performed a cha cha on Sytycd tonight and she killed it I want to see her with a celeb soooo bad!!!
I forgot Cheryl! I guess she’s a “little ‘un” too, but mercy, I need a break from her. I like her – hell, I like Derek – but why are they the queen and king of this show (well, her to a lesser extent but she’s almost always in the finals.)
Unlike Strictly, DWTS is far too “star-pro” centered! I think that’s one reason it’s sort of sinking in the ratings – it’s the same thing, every season…. while Strictly doesn’t have “star pros” and its ratings are as high as ever.
Witney on sytycd was all about her and she should not be a pro IMO. She had no chemistry or willing to engage with her partner. She was too busy looking for the camera. She is like that on the troupe. On the show, she would be dancing around her partner, not making them learn, etc. She lacks the personality to have a fun partnership too that people may like. She lacked that with Chehon on her sytycd season and he did better away from her. Not to mention her ballroom is no where near Karina or Anna’s level. Not that dwts seems to care for that either. I think Lindsay, who comes off more mature than Witney, showed maybe the young pros should wait. It is not like younger pros equal higher ratings. She did not get as far as Lacey or Chelsie on their sytycd seasons to bring this big fan base over either. Henry and Sasha at least both have experience on the Aussie version. Not that I am eager to see either of them.
@gail, ratings comparisons between seasons is tough given how quickly the tv landscape has changed in a short time. Pretty sure season 12 ratings would have been high with Derek on when you have Ralph Macchio ( fits well with the demo), Kirstie and Donald Driver. Not sure how Derek is propped considering all pros have judges letting some things go or called out, etc. He earned those wins and his dances are memorable. As Courtney before I think how tptb like he is professional, no drama pro, etc. He has elevated the show and most consistently trying to bring entertaining choreo. You see other pros trying what he has done.
I’ve read a lot of “This pro has checked out” and “that pro has checked out.”
my question is – Have they checked out because they know Derek will win no matter what? Is Derek that good, or are the other pros just not bothered enough to challenge him?
I’ve never seen the other pros pursue an Emmy nomination like Derek. I’d like to see them giving him a run for his money. If Tony wasn’t so determent to win, I don’t think he would have won all-star. I also liked when Karina won because she had determination to win. Most of the time pros seem resigned to the idea that Derek will win. The lackluster celebration after Derek’s 4th win said it all.
I have a question about Strictly… Does it change up the pros from season to season very much?
Cheryl and Tony have been on every season since Season 2. I think the press and the fans help make the pros “stars” in their own right. And if I was in their shoes, I wouldn’t mind the exposure because it means it extends a career.
Gail2, you’re lucky PH is on vacation. 😉
If Derek appears to be propped, I’d say it’s because (a) he can do more to make a mediocre celeb look good than most of the other pros can do with a bonafide contender, (b) celebs who can dance request him, (c) the producers want Emmy nominations, and they know their best shot at getting some is by giving Derek as many opportunities as possible to choreograph.
Winter – Strictly doesn’t have a stable of dancers they cast from each series like DwtS. They’ve never yet brought back a dancer who they’d previously set aside (though I think one dancer took a series out once). Only two of the current 14 pros remain from the original cast. This season 3 long standing and popular pros have left and another (Aliona) would seem to have been given the heave-ho. We’re still waiting to see who will replace Emma Slater….
Sorry, meant to add, there would normally be at least one new pro each time. 4 in one go is unusual.
right on the money Cidra (#98)
Jennifer, I don’t think you can lay the blame for some of the long-time pros “checking out” at Derek’s door. As for saying “they know Derek will win no matter what”, that’s a stretch. He’s been on 11 seasons (I think) and he’s won 4 times. Yes, that’s more than any of the other pros, but I don’t think he’s keeping other pros from winning.
As for the other pros being unable or unwilling to compete with him, well there’s some evidence for the “unable” part. I’d say some of the pros can’t compete with Derek in terms of choreography (everyone has different strengths and weaknesses). Others probably can but they’re not motivated to do it (their interests and goals are elsewhere), or the pieces haven’t all fallen into place at the same time. It seems that everything Derek chooses to do, he does 100%. He leaves nothing to chance. I’m not saying the other pros don’t work hard, most of them do; but they don’t totally immerse themselves in every detail of everything they’re doing the way Derek does. I think the one who comes closest to that level of professional intensity is Val.
Oh Jennifer, Jennifer, Jennifer………
Derek doesn’t ALWAYS win! In 11 seasons that he’s won, he hasn’t won 7 times. 🙂
But yes, he’s THAT GOOD!
Yes, the other pros do pursue Emmy nominations, but NONE OF THEM HAVE EVER WON! Even Derek! Mark’s gone after nominations with…. Chelsie Kane? He had some great choreography that season, but I personally couldn’t handle his attitude that season. I prefer him as “good Mark” but I must admit that when he has the great attitude, his choreography suffers. When he’s “bad Mark” and has the crappy attitude that turns people off, his choreography soars!
Cheryl and Tony….. Tony’s just never been a strong choreographer, even during All Star season. He’s a FABULOUS dancer and a great partner. Very patient teacher. And Cheryl? She just hasn’t seemed to really WANT to be there for the last several seasons. And instead of some great choreography and dancing, she’s resorted to doing the Pole Thing with her partners, even the most abled of them. (Pole thing…. Male celebrity stands and poses and sometimes removes clothing, and will walk and change poses occasionally, while female pro dances around him)
And yes, all the pros want to win. Not all the pros are equal with their choreography though, and they do know that he is the one who can take untalented celebrities further.
Karina isn’t equal to Cheryl at ALL! She’s better! Why? She knows that this is a TV show, and knows when to have fun with it (like Derek). She knows the strengths and weaknesses of her partners and can not only choreograph dances for the best for THEM, but she also TEACHES! Sharna’s shown promise to be quite similar to Karina.
And also, read Cidra’s note to Gail2 above…. I think you’re lucky, too, that PH isn’t here…….
Winter, Strictly changes its pros quite regularly, but once a pro leaves it’s VERY rare that they come back – only one professional has ever skipped a series and competed in a later one. There are two pros in the upcoming series 11 who have been in from the very beginning, the others have arrived at various intervals since then (four of them new for series 11). I *think* only series 4 and 5 had the same professional dancers – there’s been at least one change between all the other series.
I’m with Linde,….+1 Cids and Lori too!!
Well well well, how convenient that Captain Contrary – er, I mean Jennifer, shows up to rehash the same old tired arguments she’s held onto for YEARS now, less than 24 hours after Heidi leaves for vacay. Just had to scratch the itch, didn’t you Jennifer? 🙂
Derek fans, pay no mind to Jennifer – she’s an long-time instigator (and a Maks/Val/Tony fan) here at Pure and has this uncanny knack for showing up and stirring the pot when she’s bored or just feels the need to be a killjoy. Pretty sure I could say “The sky is blue” and Jennifer would counter with some sort of argument about how it wasn’t (and how “Derek always gets the good partners”), just to be contrary. Heidi may humor her in her arguments, but for now she’s going on “hold for moderation” – cause ain’t nobody (especially me) got time for that.
Ditto to Cidra and Lori and thank you Courtney.
Jaycee, I hope Strictly’s loss is DWTS’s gain and we get Emma as a pro for Season 17. Can’t imagine why Strictly would change their mind about her; she seemed a perfect fit. I was somewhat surprised (and dismayed) they dumped Aliona (she was a favorite of mine), but upon reflection, she didn’t fit the mold of a Strictly pro as well as some of the others (and Len didn’t like her at all).
This probably means nothing but I tweeted dwtsgossip: do you know if Emma is still doing SCD if not then I think we may have a new pro and her dad favorited the tweet. Again probably means nothing but thought if share!;)
I am all for Emma joining dwts. I think the pros that worked with Jason Gilkinson and Burn the Floor know how to out on a show. I think sometimes Tony goes for traditional and the tricks do not blend as well. Compare Shawn and Melissa’s week four dances and their AT and appreciate much more what Shawn did those weeks.
Would love for that to be true, Kashti. Of course, it could also be that Daddy Slater is just one of those doting papas, and he favorites any positive tweet about Emma (which would be a sweet thing too).
Aargh! It’s so annoying that they’re making us wait all the way to September 4 for the cast reveal. 😡
I agree. This waiting is a killer.
And add me to the Emma Wish List for Pro! She’d be an excellent replacement for Cheryl! (I’m so bored with Cheryl and Tony the most. Adding: same with Lindsay!)
I really think it must be Emma’s decision not to come to SCD – I just can’t think of any reason for the show to dump her. Sometimes visas and work permits get in the way, but she’s a Brit, so it can’t be that. I think it must mean she’s been offered a pro slot on DwtS – and who could blame her for wanting to stay where she’s settled, with her bf and, let’s face it, where she’ll earn more money! Either way, I hope we see her as a pro on one of the two! As for Aliona, I think you’re right Cidra, she didn’t completely fit in at Strictly. I loved her and thought she brought something fresh and different, but she definitely divided opinion!
Jaycee, yes, I can’t think of any reason for Emma not appearing on SCD other than she’s been offered the chance to partner a celebrity on DWTS, and like you say you can’t blame her for taking it, even if it must have caused the BBC some bother. I’m almost convinced Anya’s taken Emma’s place though. (And you’re right about Aliona – she did split opinion: I thought she was terrible!)
Jaycee and Lea, LOL, Well, there you go then! Glad to know my reading of the GBP was on target. Guess we know which camp won the Aliona debate. Hope she lands on her feet elsewhere.
If it turns out Emma is going to get a celeb pairing this season on DWTS, I hope she connects with the US audience. If she does, not only will she have a better one-season paycheck than she would on Strictly, she’ll also have an opportunity for more stable employment from which to plan the next phase of her life (since DWTS does keep “popular” pros on season after season).
Somewhat Off-Topic: Strictly might not have the same “star-pro” bias that DWTS suffers from, but they have the same “fan favorite” syndrome. While I was tickled that Flavia won last series, I felt Louis won because he was the Olympic hero. Not only was he *not* the best dancer but he had no chemistry with Flavia.
Anya going on scd might explain her not being an all star on sytycd.
Lucky scd, they get Pasha and Anya! Would love to have both of them on dwts. The best ballroom dancers sytycd ever had and dwts did not get them. Our loss is SCD’s gain.
Also Pasha and Anya were quite versatile in other styles too. Pasha’s jazz with Sara as well as west coast swing, all all time favorites.
No question Pasha’s a fine dancer, but I didn’t care for his attitude during his first SCD series (Mr. Snooty). I felt he had less of an “I’m a better dancer than everyone else out here” attitude his second time out. He’s the only SCD male pro I’d even remotely want to see on DWTS.
Really? I loved Pasha on his first season. The pairing reminded me a bit of Derek and Lil Kim. I know dwts asked him but he was doing Burn the Floor. Too bad because people have been asking for Pasha on dwts since sytycd season 3.
Hi everyone…oh it is so fun to be back. I have been checking on and off all summer but have refrained from commenting until now. I am very excited Derek is coming back. He is a great asset to the show. I know that he could probably fill his time with other projects, however, it appears to me that ABC/Disney now have some investment in him. Now I don’t mean he is favored by the judges, because anyone with a lick of sense, knows that is not true. But, I do think his choreography is so creative and out of the box and he is so personable that it would be silly for the network to ignore that. He has that new dance show coming up on ABC and I think his decision to be on DWTS is probably more of a business decision than any of us know. Really, if the network is willing to give him even more camera time and allow him to try out other facets of television like hosting this upcoming family dance show…it behooves them both to scratch each other’s back so to speak. This is just a guess on my part, but I think we are going to see more of Derek on the network. I think we are selling him short when we say, don’t stay, don’t stay, move on. I think he was ready to move on and then I think there was some negotiations and they each realized it would benefit the other for the relationship to continue. Derek has always been closed mouthed about whether he would be dancing and this year he is like the first pro to say he is in. I could be wrong, but that is just my opinion. I agree with those who say he is the best choreographer hands down on the show and you know what…I think this could be his year to get the Emmy. I hope so anyway. As far as the other pro’s…wow I think several of them could use a season off to perhaps think about their career…some of them seem tired and others too arrogant. I do hope Karina is back…I love her and I would love to see Sharna back…she was such a breath of fresh air. In terms of males, besides Derek I am less picky, but I hope if Val is coming back…he loses some of the arrogance…although I don’t think he will. He is, in my opinion, his own worst enemy, because he thinks he is good and wants everyone to know it and that arrogance is annoying. Oh well, not long now…can’t wait and it sure is good to “see” everyone.
I really hope Chelsie is back she deserves a win or at least a FINALE appearance!!! Thanks for the update Heidi!! 🙂
Males:
Maks
Gleb
Mark
Val
Tristan (Hope he finally gets a contender!)
Henry
No Derek (His choreo has gotten stale. It’s time to move on. Yes he’ll have his stand-out dance of the season, but other than that I’m not impressed like I was his first couple of seasons. Watch his instant cha cha with Shawn and his cha cha with Kellie…And he also needs to stop saying he’s leaving every season and then comes back.)
Females:
Karina
Anna
Peta
Dasha (She is INCREDIBLE!)
Chelsie
Sharna
No Cheryl (So tired of her. I’ve been watching since I was 14 and I’m now 21 and just feel like I see so much of her with no real improvement with choreo)
I don’t know why some people are on Derek’s case. If you compare his choreography to other pros on the show, his outshines them all (with Karina being the next best)
If you looked at last season, Kelli and Zendaya were basically head to head throughout the entire season, I honestly didn’t know who would win because both were amazing dancers but after seeing Dereks choreography for Kelli’s freestyle, there was no doubt in my mind that Kelli wouldn’t win. Yes, Zendaya did great in her freestyle as well but the simplicity in both the dance and movement were breathtaking. Derek’s choreography has always been in a league of its own and it has shown the entire season 16 and even season 15 with Shaun. For Kelli’s Jazz routine, do you honestly think anyone besides Derek (on DWTS at least) could have come up with that routine using the props as he had done? doubtful.
Just because Derek has won 4 mirror balls does not mean he should leave the show to give other pros a chance. In case you Derek bashers weren’t aware, it’s about the celebrity and their journey rather than “OH THIS PRO HAS THIS MANY TROPHIES” and then people say “Oh Derek always gets the best celebs”.. again, not true.
Guys, please don’t take the bait – I’m guessing that Izabel was probably just looking for attention when she made that comment (which is why I hesitated to approve it), but please do me a favor: do not let this thread become the perpetual “Derek debate” because a few interlopers pop in to stir the pot. So many threads have gone completely off the rails because some instigator pops in and deliberately says something inflammatory to get everyone riled up – and then everyone jumps to Derek’s defense and the entire conversation gets forgotten because everyone jumps into the fray. I’m asking you guys – politely – to either ignore the trolls or keep your response brief. Be the bigger person, please – and let us handle the trolls.
Sharna just tweeted something about going to Cabo before season 17 craziness begins,does that maybe mean she’s in? Sure hope so!
Saw that tweet, Kashti. I’m with you on this – hope she’s in!
Good job Guys! Just updated the post!
Eep!! Sharna and Chelsie!!!! Please be true I’ve missed my Chels
With Chelsie most likely back in, do you think they won’t have Lindsay come back?
I think Lindsay could still have a shot because she made it kinda far for her first season I don’t see them cutting her this soon
Good question Jessica. I wish we knew for sure, but, I’m thinking along the lines you are too. In my opinion, she didn’t make a big enough showing last season.
And Jessica….for Chelsie, don’t forget we wrote “Possibly” In, not “Most Likely” In. 😉
@Vogue Opps! I miss-read that 🙂 I think if they were to have her back “possibly” then I think Lindsay would be out. From what I’ve gathered from past seasons is that they usually only have one “young blonde – Juliane type” girl but that could also change this season as they’ve mentioned they want a younger demographic but we I guess we have to wait and see 🙂
As long as Anna, Sharna and Karina are back, I’m happy.
Since Derek is back–I’ll be watching! Not sure what to think of the cutback to one night. I hope that means TPTB will be cutting some of the filler stuff they have been using for the troupe. Would much rather see longer quality dances with the Pro–than just filler dances with the troupe.
I think that Cheryl should sit out for a few seasons. I like her, but she seems to have lost the passion for the show and some time off might allow her to miss the show and discover or renew that passion she once seemed to have for the show and her partnerships.
I’m OK with Maks & Val coming back—if they drop the “family BS” and start treating the judges and their fellow Pro with more respect. In other words, if they would both star acting like adults and not spoiled children.
I’d like to see Chelsea come back, but not with anyone cocky—just someone who wants to do the work.
I’d also, like to see more of Sharna and see if last season was a fluke or if she’ll end up being a good Pro. I’d also like for Sharna to drop the “I’m so sexy” mess that she like to throw into EVERY routine she does for the female Pros.
I miss Anna on the show—even though she doesn’t always work that well with her partners. And I love her on the After shows.
Karina is my favorite female Pro and I don’t see that changing anytime soon. She does great with all types of partners!
I wouldn’t miss Peta at all. She was OK with Donald, but didn’t like her with her other partners.
I hope that TPTB keep Henry and Sasha (sp?), but not sure I’d like to see them as Pros.
Don’t want to see Louis back–I think that his attitude often stinks when he is a competing Pro.
Kym seemed tired last season, but I want her back if she feels recharged.
Mark? I don’t want him back–unless he gives it his full effort. If he is too distracted –then he should take a season or off–or more if he has lost the passion for the show.
I want Tristan to come back and get a good partner, but I’m not sure he is up to the challenge of doing great/memorial choreography. But I think that his personality/skills really shine when he is performing working with other Pros.
Wasn’t impressed with Lindsay’s work and not interested in seeing Whitney as a Pro either. I think that they need more seasoned performers/teachers for this type of show.
Gleb is good looking, but I don’t think that he projects enough personality/strength as a Pro—at least from what we saw last season. I’d rather see him become the 3rd guy in the troupe with Sasha and Henry.
That’s it for my rambling thoughts right now.
Agree with a lot of your opinions, Cori. I like Sharna too but agree with the whole sexy mess from her and other female pros. Could not believe they all loved the run the world female pro routine. Female pros have not done a quality opening number like the ones of past like season 5. Want more than hairography from the female pros, which is what Witney and Oksana give us.
Want to see and would be disappointed without: Derek, Tristan, Val, Karina, Sharna, Kym. I hope to see them with top contenders as they bring the best choreography, personalities and partnerships to the show, IMO.
Overall, I did miss Maks too for the entertainment factor he brings to the show with his unique presence and just watching him dance.
Beyond them I don’t care too much.
Would like Chelsie back even though her routines have never risen to that next level needed to be a top pro. I like her dancing and her as a person. I don’t care for Peta, Anna (love her, but not her routines or relationships with partners) or Lindsay. Really could live without them and Tony.
I agree with Cori in regards to Cheryl. I think she needs a break and I don’t mean that in a bad way but sometimes you need to sit out for a season to refuel your fire. I think that’s what happened to Anna because honestly before this past season I didn’t care for her until she was out for season 16 and only did a few pro numbers which I think let her have a breather and put some spark back into her work.
I also agree about Peta. I think she overdoes the sexuality content in her routines, I think there is a time and place for that (leave it to the cha cha, samba, salsa, etc.) I actually hope she gets a partner (if she’s back) that she can’t rely on for the “sexuality” content that she had with Giles or even Sean (maybe someone like Andy where Sharna admitted made her get creative with her work — which I loved!!)
I’m hoping Sharna is back because she was awesome last season, she reminds me of Karina in some aspects. The whole sexy, fiery and bold brunette.
Love my Sharna, I have to admit I shouted a little “Yay” when I read this latest update. 🙂
I think Emma may be out from strictly come dancing as Karen(one of the pros) just said her fiancé, Kevin Clifton will be one of the new dancers this season.
I’d like to see the pro line-up look something like-
Henry Byalikov
Mark Ballas
Gleb Savchenko
Val Chmerekovskiy
Tristan MacManus
Maksim Chmerekovskiy
Elena Samodanova (I know she’s not really in the running, but she was a great teacher in the Aussie version, and she’s Gleb’s wife)
Sharna Burgess
Emma Slater
Karina Smirnoff
Peta Murgatroyd
Kym Johnson
@Vogue – Is it normally this quiet in the “rumor” mill? This suspense is almost too much for me to bare. I better start cleaning something…. 🙂
lol I know the feeling. Yeah, it seems the rumors are tight this time. We got hit with several rumors last week…and Friday was fun for what John and a fan named Abby found. But yeah, it’s tight. It seems TPTB have learned what to do in order to keep things under wraps until they are ready. Dang. lol
Jake, I could definitely go for your list if you included Derek somehow. And I love Elena too!
Just a little side note – I know everyone is getting excited about their favorite pros coming back, but please keep in mind that at this point, most of the pros are just working under the assumption that they will be back…they likely don’t know for sure that they will be back and have a partner. So even though it might be tempting to interpret “Can’t wait for season 17 to start!” or “Fitting in this last-minute vacay in before the madness of season 17!” as “I will definitely be back!”, I would say that, unless a pro is stating “I will definitely be back for season 17 WITH A PARTNER”, I would not count them as “in” or even “possibly in”. For that reason, I would probably change Sharna’s status back to “unknown” – even Chelsie, Anna, and Maks were tweeting things like “Can’t wait for season 16!” in the weeks leading up to the start of last season…and they didn’t end up coming back. I just don’t want to give anyone false hope.
I think this pretty much confirms what we thought about Emma no longer appearing on SCD – http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s104/strictly-come-dancing/news/a507944/strictly-come-dancing-new-professional-dancers-revealed.html. It speaks of one more pro to be announced this week, but I can’t see this being anyone except for Anya.
I wouldn’t call that confirmation, Lea – still says they’re announcing one more pro dancer later this week.
Please, everyone, allow me to reiterate: at this point, I don’t want to do too much “reading between the lines” when it comes to people being in or out – when I have black & white info from a reputable source (i.e. EW saying “Emma Slater will not be on SCD this season”), I will update the post. This is nothing new – this is how Heidi has ALWAYS done Pro Watch. Little to no vagueness, and with a good degree of confidence in the information we’re posting. It’s still a little early for the pros to be saying for sure whether they’re in or out – remember, we only figured out Gleb was in less than 24 hours before the cast announcement last season.
Interesting, Ryan (#139). I hope this doesn’t mean Emma is left high and dry or stuck in DWTS Troupe again this season.
I was speculating that DWTS “stole” her, but if it turns out Karen’s fiance is the new pro on SCD, it seems more likely that SCD had a male celeb lined up who backed out. So they had to scramble for a replacement and ended up with a female celeb instead.
I’d like to see Emma replace Cheryl, Peta, or Kym.
Courtney – Totally agree that it’s not official confirmation – perhaps I should have said it adds more weight to the argument? I guess we’ll get confirmation later this week.
Cidra – Without wanting to get too far into it (it’s not DWTS, after all!), it hasn’t really felt that last minute with regards to Emma – there’s also another pro still to be announced so it looks like for the first time SCD is having uneven numbers of men and women competing. I think your original theory makes much more sense.
Court and I are disagreeing on Sharna slightly. I think she’s “possibly in” after her tweet (it seemed to have some merit in some capacity even if a little). But, after talking with Court and the way she took her tweet, I can see what she means too.
Thanks for the insight, Lea. Yes, we don’t want to get too off-topic. So I’ll keep my fingers crossed that DWTS will announce Emma as a teaching pro this season and leave it at that.
Well said, Courtney. Hope to see Sharna & Karina on the show.
Great finding Lea! I think that’s pretty legit and I heard the last pro is anya garnis! Emma is back in LA with Sasha! So big hopes for Emma becoming pro she deserves it!! Fingers crossed! All four of the new pros on strictly Janette,Iveta,Aljaz and Kevin I’ve looked up to in the ballroom community I’m excited to see them! I don’t normally watch strictly but I’m going to this season! Excited for DWTS and SCD
SCD took some great pros. Iveta is a ten champion and see made krumper Russell look good. I will be upset if Dwts settles for Lindsay and Witney when Anya, Janette, Karen, Iveta all went to scd. All far superior ballroom dancers who competed on sytycd.
Oops, pushed too soon. By settle, I do not mean somehow they chose scd over dwts. More that dwts takes weaker and inexperienced dancers in the name of youth votes over also popular sytycd better ballroom, dancers. I am fine and want Emma to be a pro but not Witney.
Chelsie Hightower just tweeted “Got both good and bad news today. #bittersweet.”
I’d bet dollars to doughnuts this means she’s out for season 17. The producers just flat-out don’t like her. Which is a shame. She was the last pure technician left among the females on the show. (Which is what makes judge-geeks like me happy.)
Awh!I just saw Chelsie’s Tweet and Kym’s Tweet!I really hope she does come back in season 18,she has such a sweet and down to earth personality!I will miss her!
The pro watch has been updated. Sad as Kym Johnson won’t be dancing this season. 🙁 See the update for a link and more for why.
Chelsie’s tweet seems a little cryptic…
As much as I love Kym, I’m glad she’s taking a break from the show – the poor woman just looked exhausted this past season, and she’s had a few rough seasons since winning with Hines…I don’t think David, Jaleel, Joey, or Ingo were particularly easy on her.
And before anyone starts speculating about who will “take Kym’s place” – keep in mind that there’s been downsizing across the board at the show this season, and it may not be a matter of replacing pros…but taking fewer pros as a whole.
:(((( Kymmie!!! She will be missed, Cheryl needs to leave! As much as I’m gonna miss Kym that swings the door wide open for Emma!! They will need a tall, blonde, bubbly fresh beauty and Emma is that!!! Crossing my fingers for Emma.
Ok Guys! Here is post for Kym!
@Courtney, Chelsie is an All-Star this week on SYTYCD and her partner had to go see a doctor for his shoulder. Her bad news may be that she will not be dancing tomorrow with four of her seasons’ contestants. The good news could be she’s on DWTS.
There’s now speculation that Strictly is going to have a same sex couple (possibly featuring fashion designer Julien Macdonald) which may explain Emma’s abscence.
Sad to see Kym out, but I guessed it was kinda inevitable given her initial reticence to compete last season. They are rebooting DWTS in Australia on a new channel, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see her involved in that somehow down the line.
Chelsie tweeted she will be dancing on Tues for SYTYCD. Her partner posted on Facebook his shoulder was in pain, so they gave him a choice to dance or not and chose to dance. Her tweet about good news/bad news could solely be SYTYCD related. The bad part could be they had to take out some lifts for their jive. But then again… Here’s hoping she is on DWTS. Her tweet could be she is on DWTS but not with the Scott L entrepreneur guy too. The speculation list could go on.
Here’s hoping for a fresh, fun, and fabulous DWTS season.
@Harriett #163, could not agree more with your post, especially the DWTS part.
It has been weird and kind of funny to see one of my posts cut and pasted from this website by so-called fans to be used for speculation on Twitter. Since the speculation is most likely wrong, I’m not sure what to think.
Courtney #158 – I couldn’t agree more about the delightful Kym. I’m not disappointed to hear she won’t be on DwtS this season, as she seemed utterly exhausted and over it last time round. Hopefully her role down-under won’t put her out of the US show forever, as I’d happily see her back when she’s had a rest.
As regards the number of pros, there was a press release from ABC earlier this month confirming 12 pro-celeb couples, so I guess, providing they can sign the full quota of celebs, someone will be needed in Kym’s place. How the down-sizing might affect the troupe, on the other hand, is anyone’s guess.
The rumour-mill on Strictly (same-sex couple, Anya etc) is very much still speculation as the BBC have been singularly silent on the matter. (I do think Anya will be in though!). I really hope Emma’s situation hasn’t been forced on her, but still think her utter silence on twitter from when the announcement was first made (June 1st) is telling. Not entirely sure quite what it tells us, mind!!
I hope Gleb returns. I don’t think he was able to make much impact with Lisa, but goodness, he’s so, so pretty! I love Tristan, and would like him to have young-ish, fit and popular celeb. I’m not sure he cuts the mustard with his choreography, but he’s a caring teacher and an all round gorgeous person. Delighted to see Derek will be back. I’ll confess he has his moments when he gets on my nerves, but I adored his partnership with Kellie and love his creativity. Val – yes, please, but dial back the arrogance. Great dancer though. I don’t understand the Henry-love. Perhaps watching in the UK via YT, I don’t see the whole picture, but he and Sasha do nothing for me and I can’t remember who the other troupe guy is!!!
I might be reaching but Lindsay could be back. I’m probably reaching but here’s the tweet.
@lindsayarnold: On the bright side☀had a long day today working on stuff for an exciting thing coming up that I will be able to tell you more about soon☺☺
Thanks Grant. But I was not impressed with Lindsay last season. Didn’t care for her teaching style whatsoever and her choreography was lackluster and forgettable. Not a fan.
Lindsay retweeted someone who mentioned a phototshoot 1 day before the tweet #Grant mentioned above so it could be she is the face of some product too.
@BexLambrecht: Up bright and early heading to UT for a fun shoot with @lindsayarnold ! Gonna be awesome… Wish I could stay longer than a day…
I wonder if maybe Emma’s keeping her SCD option open until she finds out about DWTS.
Kathleen, maybe I’m being cynical, but I don’t see how Emma is in the driver’s seat on any of this. I like Emma but doubt she’s such a hot property that she can afford to string SCD along. If I were one of TPTB at SCD and she said, “I’ll do your show if DWTS doesn’t give me a competing pro spot”, I’d say “Thanks, luv, but I can find half-a-dozen other pro dancers who’ll sign with us right now.”
I do hope Kym’s absence gives Emma a better chance of getting on DWTS as a competing pro. Emma would be a fresh face but with a touch of maturity.
Agreed about Emma not holding the cards on this. They’ve been in pro rehearsals for a week and are recording the red carpet event and pairing up shows on the 3rd and 4th September. The likelihood now of her appearing on SCD is miniscule.
Cidra, maybe I’m being naive, but I don’t think it would have to be a hardline ultimatum on Emma’s part if she has a good relationship with the producers. Also, as a British champion, she might be particularly attractive to SCD. Maybe I’m being overly optimistic, but I’d like to think that she and the SCD producers are still on good terms.
Jaycee, I’m just wondering why they haven’t announced Anya or Kevin as new pros yet. A couple of ideas…Maybe they’re still deciding whether to go traditional pair or same sex…or maybe the final spot is still pending a decision elsewhere.
Kathleen, I think we know that Kevin is definitely appearing – he and the other pros have announced it themselves. It could be anything as small as making sure Anya’s visa is sorted (if, of course, it is Anya – which I’m personally 100% sure it is). Given that the BBC made an announcement about Emma which it looks very, very likely is now wrong, they might just want to make *absolutely* sure about the announcement. If Emma were to say she’d only do SCD if she didn’t get a DWTS spot, they’d definitely turn around and say no – and they certainly wouldn’t have announced her in the first place, only to then have to correct it. If DWTS pros are only finding out around now (and I’m basing that only on Kym and Chelsie’s tweets being at about the same time), then they’d have known Emma would be missing a week’s rehearsal – and I’m not sure the SCD producers would be particularly happy knowing they were considered second choice?
I also wouldn’t say Emma’s Britishness is necessarily a plus point for her on SCD – SCD hasn’t had a female pro from the UK since Karen Hardy, who left 4 years ago. In fact, including Kevin, there are only 4 British pros on the programme.
Thanks Lea, but I’m confused. Are there one or two spots still open? Who’s place is Kevin taking?
Kathleen, originally, 4 dancers left from s10 and Emma was one of those announced to be replacing her. Then much more recently, the list changed to say Kevin was joining and one other still to be announced (see my post 144 with the link) – taking the total of pros to 15 (the first time SCD has ever had an odd number).
I think if Anya is in they are being careful not to tease with her. No hints or tweets or photos from rehearsals. Got to be ‘legals’ – or she’s a red-herring! The final number of pros on SCD remains a mystery! As for Britishness being an advantage or not.. I don’t know (tho’ I reckon Flavia was as British as she was Italian, moving here at the age of 4). To me it matters not a jot where they come from, but you do read comments lamenting the lack of home grown talent, so maybe…
As for the ladies on DwtS this season, with no Kym, but maybe Emma in the frame, my absolute must-have is Karina. I’d give Lindsey another chance but wouldn’t be too upset if she missed out. Wouldn’t mind Cheryl sitting this one out. Peta’s okay by me, but needs to lay off the raunch (if only for variety!). I don’t care for Lacey. Chelsie is a sweetheart, but her choreo never quite gets there. The troupe blondes? Meh – dunno. Anna – I’ve lost faith in her, but she used to be a fave and Sharna is a complete goddess.
If Chelsie’s tweet relates to DWTS could be that since Kym is officially out they needed her in. Good news she’s in, bad news is she’ll miss Kym. That seems like a Chelsie reaction to me. Just a guess.
There’s a new blurb on Mark on cambio.com, advertising a twitter session Thursday to promote his music. It could just be poor writing, but the first line reads “Did you love Mark Ballas during his 12-season run on Dancing With The Stars?” To me, that sounds past tense and could point to Mark being out…
I saw that too KJ, but, I didn’t take it that Mark is out. IMO, they are just using his time on DWTS for promotion to get people to come and listen to his music. Like Court advised (and I know this is hard sometimes and I do it too), but, try and not read too much into things. Also, I don’t think Cambio knows if he’s in or out of DWTS. I don’t think Mark could or would tell them one way or the other either.
#93 Gail#2 I think s12 ratings were due to Kirstie Alley, Hines Ward and even Ralph Macchio–not because DH took a break to film a movie.
Since Derek said in his last interview that he knows who all the pros are, I can only assume all the pros know whether they are in or out. Based on that MAYBE we can read a little more into things like what Sharna tweeted. I’ll admit Sharna tweeted that a few days ago but maybe it was more than her just hoping she was on. Also if all the pros are set makes me wonder if the cast is now completed.
@KarenT – You took the words right out of my mouth. Great observation!
I wonder if Emma knew Kym wasn’t returning and said NO to SCD… hopping for an offer from DWTS. And if Derek has an idea who’s replacing Kym, I’m betting Emma is in.
Karina is at Disney with Deena Katz and Chelsie is there with her family! This may be another one my comments that mean nothing and I may need to stop reading between the lines,but you never know!;)
Lindsay’s on again this season it seems like it the way witney said it
Possibility though, not really suremif im reading too into it
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UN7Avqk6iug
Thanks Dancefan, ….could be a possibility in some form, and yet, not a full confirmation as a Pro either.
SCD new just confirmed that Anya Garnis is the last new pro. YAY FOR HER. I think this could only mean good things for Emma. #emmforpro please
Finally official, Emma is NOT a pro dancer on SCD – link here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/strictlycomedancing/posts/Fifteen-celebrities-two-new-pro-dancers-for-2013
What this means with regards to DWTS is another thing though. I’d suspect she’s been offered a pro spot there, but who knows.
Yeah, backing up what Grant says, the BBC blog states the 5 new pros are Aljaz Skorjanec, Janette Manrara, Anya Garnis, Kevin Clifton and Iveta Lukosiute as rumoured previously. Also as rumoured, Emma is not mentioned, meaning she’s definitely out of SCD.
@Dancefan, I wouldn’t read into it, Witney said at the beginning that they find out August 15th if they’re in or not, so that video had to have been filmed before either Witney or Lindsay knew whether or not they were in for Season 17.
Hi, it’s now been completely confirmed that Anya Garnis is replacing Emma Slater. I think either Emma was annoyed that they didn’t hire Sasha to be the vacant male slot on SCD, or she got a much better offer from DWTS.
Wondering if Tony is in. He tweeted last night about packing.
Dwts Gossip tweeted:@jahfan1 Karina’s back. And I heard who’ll replace Kym… That I can’t say
Hooray, happy to hear Karina is in!
That is excellent news. Thanks for the update, Vogue! 🙂
DWTSGossip says Cheryl and Peta are in as well that means there are 2 more spots left and I would think Sharna has one of them…leaving Chelsie or Anna.Great.I love both!
DWTSGossip says Cheryl and Peta are in as well that means there are 2 more spots left and I would think Sharna has one of them…leaving Chelsie or Anna.Great.I love both!
YW! So exciting. Love her so much!
More updates:
@dwtsgossip who do you have confirmed for the men pros?
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@kayell99 tony, derek, Val, mark
They have also added…. Cheryl and Peta, with only 2 more female spots left.
Yay!!! Thank goodness Karina is back!
Yes, Karina’s IN! I hope she gets a good partner. And I hope that the other pros who are in confirm that they are in. Ugh! The wait is kinda “killing me softly,” hehe.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
This is the most wonderful time of the year!!
Now it’s pins and needles until we find out the pairings. I feel confident that Sharna’s name will be added to the pro list as well.
Sounds like Gleb & Sharna might be back also. Gleb tweeted about heading to LA in a few days. Sharna tweeted back on the 17th that she was ready for the last few relaxation days before season 17 craziness starts.
DWTSGossip @DWTSGossip 2m
@VirginiaInCal Maks is not returning.
Sounds like Maks is OUT!
Since Emma isn’t part of SCD after all – could she be the one replacing Kym this season? (certainly would make sense since Derek said he knows who is the replacement and he’s been dancing quite a lot with her lately)
Maks is out? And lindsay is going back to LA?
For girls, I hope Sharna and Anna are back (but I think it’ll be Chelsie — or someone in that young demographic)
For guys, I hope it’s Tristan and Maks, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it were Tristan and Henry.
This is getting very interesting.
For the men, I hope it’s Tristan and Henry.
I can see it being Gleb instead of Henry if TPTB feel they need tall, dark and sexy eye candy.
For the women, I hope it’s Sharna, Emma, and Anna.
Unfortunately, I think Anna’s chances are kind of slim. If they’re serious about wanting youth, they’ll be looking at Chelsie or Lindsay. Hopefully not both.
I’m surprised Maks isn’t returning not because I’m fan cause I’m not but I thought TPTB would be playing it safe with the pros with all the old favorites returning.
Me to Cidra, those are exactly the ones I’m hoping to fill the unconfirmed spots. I’d like to see Emma and Henry get a chance over giving another one to Gleb and Lindsay. And I love Anna and Tristan.
Make it three Cidra, I would like to see Tristan and Henry round out the male Pros. For the women, Sharna, Emma, and Anna. I do agree though that Anna’s chances are slim. I can see them going with Chelsie or Lindsay. If I had to choose one of the two, I would pick Chelsie.
Curious, someone on twitter said they saw Maks at an event and Maks said he was not going to be on the show because “it’s the worst show”
Um, I could be wrong but this is the show that made him famous, right? I don’t follow Maks so does this sound like something he would say?
Sigh…the pros that really are in the biggest need of a break (Tony and Cheryl) are coming back, and it looks like there will be no new pros, unless one or more of the troupe make it in. If Henry or Emma come in as pros, I think that would be great – it would add some interest to the show. I still think more of a pro shake up would have been good – Peta doesn’t do anything for me, Val becomes rather annoying by week three or four, and Mark can be hit or miss.
However, I’m excited that Karina’s back, and hoping that Sharna is in as well!
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I guess – Anna and Chelsie r out and Emma and Lindsay r in #dwts
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What about Sharna?
Is their one more spot left?
According to dwtsgossip Emma and Lindsay are in Chelsie and Anna are out,because that makes sense, Lindsay.
Maks: “Dwts is the worst show ever” ha ha I like him and all but he wouldn’t be where is he is now if it weren’t for dwts.
I get the feeling based on Sharna’s current tweets she’s back
Is there any chance that Louis is returning. I know many sites have differing rumors but…
“According to The Stir at Café Mom, Cheryl Burke, Louis Van Amstel, Peta Murgatroyd, Sharna Burgess, and Karina Smirnoff are returning.”
Honestly, he would be a great fit for Tan Mom. LOL
The only reason I posted that above was because of this tweet..
Louis van Amstel @LouisVanAmstel 18 Aug
Back in NYC for two more days…
Okay, now I will let it go. 🙂 And just wait and see. I do hope Gleb and/or Tristan take the last spots.
I saw that tweet about Maks and I’m not sure if the tweeter meant that Maks thought it was the worst show ever or if the one writing the tweet thought the show was horrible for not having Maks back. For now I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt on what was meant.
I was wondering, other than Louis, has any pro ever come back to the show after sitting out two consecutive seasons? Sounds like Lindsay might be the show’s new hope for “Julianne 3.0” and is replacing Chelsie; why IDK. I was hoping for Anna to be back this season, but I think spots are filling up without her. From what Derek said about someone taking Kym’s place, I assume that means it will be a new dancer. I hope it is Emma.
Instead of getting all of these blonde Mormons, why don’t they try a brunette Jehovah’s Witness. It’s kind of the same… only not.
I am so excited to see Emma as a pro this season! I’m sort of curious to see Linsday again and see if I would like her better with a new partner although I’m sad to see Anna and Chelsie no apart of this season.
As for the guys, I hope Sasha, Tristan, or Henry or pros but maybe Tristan might take a break this season for his wedding? who knows.
KarenT, I asked the person and they said that Maks said exactly that and someone else said that Maks said the same thing a week earlier to them. So I guess he will no longer be a part of dwts. Sounds like he is not happy with the show.
They do this with Louis he’ll set out a couple seasons then return for a few. Can’t say I see what TPTB see in Lindsay I thought she wouldn’t be returning. It doesn’t look good for Anna, Maks, and Chelsie to return at some point. Which sucks cause I like Anna and Chelsie.
I’m sooooo freaking happy Emma is in!!! So ecstatic that my boo Lindsay is back to hopeful win some of y’all over! Also ecstatic to see Karina,Val,Derek,Sharna and PETA back but where the eff is Henry!! He needs to be in and not freaking tony!!
I would be really, really surprised if Louis came back – I think the only reason he got to do all-stars is because Sabrina came back and needed a shorter guy. Prior to that, he hadn’t been on since season 12. Besides, he seems busy with his fitness thingie and this line he’s creating for Sears.
As much as it pains me to say it, I doubt we’ll ever see Anna & Chelsie as pros again – just like the phasing out of Lacey, I don’t see them suddenly getting called back into action anytime soon, except maybe for pro dances.
Sad about Chelsie not being in as a Pro. I would love to see her in the troupe but not sure if that would happen.
Thanks Carolyn. I should have known. Wacky Maks; dissing the show that made him famous and is his brother’s boss. He really shouldn’t sound so disenchanted if he wants people to believe it was his choice to move on.
#226 Yes, Maks did say he wasn’t coming back and that he wants to focus on business and acting. When Karina was asked if she’d be returning….a devilish smile appeared and she said, “Hope so.” Her look said “yes” lol 🙂 They were fantastic in Forever Tango btw. The second solo was breathtaking!
According to wetpaint Anna and Chelsie’s last season was season 15. I’m very disappointed, I thought at least one of them would be on,I don’t know what the tptb was thinking. Anna especially,she was my favorite female pro.
I hear the troupe will be back. That should be interesting.
Butterfly, you’re so right. Cheryl must have TPTB by the short hairs, and I guess they need Tony for the gals who shop in the Big and Tall store.
Sandy, I see one spot left and it damn well better be for Sharna 👿
At least we get Emma as a competing pro. Yippee!!! Sadly, the writing was on the wall for Anna and Chelsie.
#224Cidra, OMG your comments about Cheryl & Tony… LOL
TBH, I’m really surprised and sort of disappointed that Anna will not be returning. She’s quite popular. No offense but I do not understand the appeal with Lindsey-she’s rather green and her choreography was not memorable at all-IMHO..
Oh well, it is very nice to see that Emma was promoted to a pro. She’s a fantastic performer. Not sure about her choreography skills though.
This should be an interesting season.
Meant to say #234-Cidra-LOL
Cidra, I bet you are right!! lol
Sure hope Tristan comes back, and Henry gets promoted to pro. Also hope Sharna returns as well. Glad that Lindsay is coming back. Pretty upset Chelsie and Anna aren’t coming back. Happy for Emma getting promoted (was hoping for Oksana to get promoted, but it’s all good).
#234 I was wondering why Tony was asked back. Now I understand. Haha
I’m not surprised by Louis not coming back and I bet he isn’t either. The writing has been on the wall for a while now.
Chelsie never coming back saddens me a bit. She’s not one of my favorite female pros but yet she’s not one of my least favorites. I don’t think she ever reached her full potential on the show. I really liked her with Romeo. They had chemistry for days. Unfortunately the rest of her routines and partners are kind of a middling blur to me.
Even though Mark has an “I’m an artist who takes risks!” attitude at times that drives me nuts, he at least makes me remember his dances. He creates excitement on the dance floor.
Chelsie was a competent, drama free pro. Unfortunately I think that’s what did her in.
I’m sure she’ll be fine. She’s a fantastic dancer.
Maks is such a prima donna, I mean honestly.
Hey PH,Courtney and Vogue this season I truly mean y’all will see a new me! I feel like I didn’t really understand why I was annoying people but I realize that me trying to force dancers on people and scrutinising others opinions is childish and immature! It processed now! 🙂 nothing but positivity from me this season. 🙂
LOL Cidra (comment 234). I’m hoping to see Sharna, as well. 🙂
At least for me so far, the pro watch has been underwhelming. Kym gone, but Cheryl stays. No Anna, but we get Lindsay back again. We get to be wowed by another season of Tony’s costume-designing wizardry, and maybe enthralled by another season of Markie and his floor-crawling, look-what-I-can-do choreo. 😯 And to top it all off, looks like all 3 Stooges are returning. Oh, and maybe, possibly, could-be, we get to watch Tanning Mom and Porno-Teen-Mom dance?!?
Guess if I’m watching at all, it’ll be to see Derek go for 5, and to see what Emma can do as a pro. Other than that, I’m hoping that somebody puts the new season of DWTS Australia out on YouTube. Without Kym, hubby is probably going to commandeer the TV for Monday Night Football anyway. 😉
Do we know how many couples are dancing this season? I thought I read somewhere possibly 12.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO………………………………….
Let’s see…………
We have confirmed….
DEREK: YAY! I am glad he’s back, but at the same time, yearn for him to spread his wings and fly far away, because he has the potential to reach further than anyone knows…..
MARK: Guess we have to wait and see which Mark shows up this season…. He seems to have 2 “speeds” for the seasons…. Corkyextreme where he has great and creative choreography, but comes off as a complete jerk, or Shirleylight where he’s calm, very patient, and pleasant personality, but NOT creative at all…. I don’t mean to diminish his parents, only used them to describe the two sides of Mark…. And used Mom for his “softer” side, because didn’t she tell him she wanted him to behave more? I’d love to see a Mark with the best of both sides of what we’ve seen…. But doubt he’ll show up.
TONY: I think he checked out last season…. He never complains, but he definitely needs a break. He’s been on the show for a while, and needs time to refresh. The only reason I can see him being on, is that Abby Lee Miller IS going to be on…. And I see NOTHING good coming out of this pairing. She will be worse than Kate Gosselin, and twice as awful with her verbal abuse!
VAL: I don’t know, I’ve never really ever seen the attraction to him… He’s not quite ever seemed to PROVE to ME that he’s a good teacher, even though I know he has to be, or he wouldn’t have been hired…. He’s got a personality that seems to turn on a dime, and usually for the worse.
Of the other males….. Louis, Gleb, Tristan…. PLEASE TRISTAN!!! And would prefer Gleb to Louis, but Gleb still has to prove himself to me.
And the girls….
CHERYL: *sigh*……… She BETTER not get paired with John Stamos!
PETA: *BIGGER SIGH*………. Same as above.
LINDSEY: She’s not proven herself to me yet. I think she’s not emotionally mature enough yet. Is she a great dancer? Yes! Everything else? ehhhhhh………………… Would prefer Chelsie, but I still have hesitations about her.
KARINA: She’s become one of my favorite current pros, and I’m glad she’s back. She’s a spitfire, and she’s got the BEST female pro choreography that the show’s got right now! Some of my favorite routines EVER! on the show are from her! Remember Boom Boom Pow???? HELLO!!!! She made the song fit the dance style, and it WORKED! even though her partner stunk.
EMMA: Glad to see her make the Big Time! She will still have to prove she’s a good teacher, like all first time teaching pros, but her dancing and personality are OUT OF THE WORLD!
PLEEEEAAAAAAAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZEEEEEEEE let Sharna be the last female spot! She MORE than earned it last season, MUCH MORE than Lindsey, in my opinion!!!!!!!!
Thank you! 🙂
I agree with everything Lori said. I hope Cheryl or Peta don’t get John Stamos because from watching Cheryl gloat over William during Season 14 (gag) and Peta’s too-over-the-top sexual choreography, I think it would be a turn off (for me at least).
I can only see John being paired with Karina or Sharna. I think it would be Karina because she has the most experience in the show and I think that would be a hot pair.
As for Seth, I could see him with Cheryl or Sharna.
I think if John Stamos is on this season, I have a feeling that he will be partnered with Emma! They’d be a hot pair, that’s for sure.-lol Now, only if she can choreograph and teach as well as she can perform.
I know Karina and John Stamos would be HOT together. But I wouldn’t be upset if he was paired with Sharna, talk about a gorgeous couple.
Excellent summary, Lori.
It’ll be interesting to see what Lindsay learned from her first season and how she applies it this season. If nothing about her approach changes, that says to me she’s not yet mature enough for the job.
Emma has the maturity. So I think her first outing will be more like Tristan’s and Sharna’s — calm and competent. I’m hoping she’ll be as engaging and capture the attention of the general audience. A lot of that will depend on who she gets.
I’d rather give Henry a shot, but I think it’s more likely to be Gleb. So I hope Gleb shows more personality and strength. Last season he sometimes had a deer in the headlights look, and his teaching demeanor seemed a bit tentative. You don’t have to be a petty dictator but you have to be in charge.
I really am happy for Emma. She’s a very good performer. She now has her chance to show her choreographic and teaching skills. While Lindsay is not in my list for female pros, maybe DWTS sees something in her that I don’t. Oh, well. Hope she does better in her second season. Like @Cidra, @Lori, and others, I really hope the last female spot goes to Sharna. As for the male pros, two slots are still to be filled. I’m keeping my fingers crossed for Tristan and Henry!
Although DWTSGossip’s tweets said they were in before, I’d say Karina confirmed that she & Cheryl are back on her instagram.
On the picture of Karina, Kym, & Cheryl– “We r back together!!! Really gonna miss @Kym_Johnson! @cherylburke and me r gonna have to hold the fort! #dwtssistasforever”
We need someone to get DWTSGossip to spill on Sharna, Tristan, and Henry. C’mon Twitter-folk, put those tweets to good use!
AMEN Cidra. If the whole world had as big a mouth as I do we would all be happier. 😀 So guys, I never payed much attention to the troupe honestly ( except for Oksana, because how DON’T you notice her )but im RLY interested in having Emma as a pro…she’s STUNNING and looks like she might have a pretty good personality. I googled her. 🙂
I’m really concerned for Gleb 🙁
He’s my favourite male pro, and the lack of news (plus the possible promotion of Henry) has me worried
Jake, Gleb?? Really? What did you see that I missed? He’s handsome and seems like a nice guy, but just like Lindsay, he didn’t really stand out to me last season. If they give him another shot, I won’t be surprised; but I thought Damian Whitewood was better with Pamela Anderson than Gleb was with Lisa, and Damian never got a second shot on DWTS.
I just thought he had a lot of patience, and his choreography was probably one of the most suited to the abilities of his partner. I think one more shot with a contender will be a sufficient means of assessing his overall ability.
Also, agree with you on Damian! Why was he never asked back?
@Cidra – Damian turned out to be one of my favorite pros that season. I loved his time on the show and really wished he had been given a second shot.
I can see them asking Gleb back, he’s a great piece of eye candy for the young-ins. But I am surprised that Lindsay was asked back. Her choreography was lackluster (even the judges addressed the issue), and her partnership seemed strained and forced. Not a fan.
Good points, Jake. Gleb’s patience made the experience enjoyable for Lisa. There’s a lot to be said for that. I agree it would be interesting to give him a younger, more energetic, more competitive partner to see how his choreography and demeanor changes. As I said elsewhere, I think he was a bit reticent in his first season and hope he shows more strength and personality now that he knows the US DWTS routine.
I miss Damian, too.
Yay, Sharna’s in! Just the male pros waiting to be completed! Now, I’m getting very, very curious about the celebrity line-up. Maybe next week we’ll get something more definite about them.
Well we have our 6 female pros. I think it’s safe to say Lacey will not dance on DWTS as a partner again. And this makes me sad. 🙁
Well, I didn’t get my wish: Tony is returning. I’m thinking the only reason TPTB must keep him in is as a partner for the “larger/taller” celebrity women. Otherwise, I don’t get it. I’m surprised Lindsay was asked back; I think she is a pretty dancer, but that’s about it. I was kind of hoping they would give Whitney a chance; at least she is bubbly and fun to watch. I’ll miss Lacey, though, she was upbeat and entertaining. I’ll also miss Anna, especially after getting the chance to see her live this summer in BWAT; I think she is a stunning dancer and visually breathtaking. I prefer her over Cheryl any day. And, I still have my fingers crossed that Irish cutie-patootie Tristan will be on the show!
Happy Dance!! Sharna is IN… 🙂
Yay! I’m celebrating, too, Sandy. 😛 Now I just need confirmation that Tristan is in. Due to circumstances out of his control, he’s had two very unfortunate seasons back-to-back. It’s time for his luck to change. I’d like to see him make it at least to the halfway point this season.
Hey Guys, @DWTSgossip has written to us about Sasha, Tristan, and Gleb. Check out “ETA10” in the first post for a small update.
I’m honestly a bit dumbfounded that Lindsay is possibly coming back. She let down a ton of people last season who were excited to see her as a pro. And she REALLY wasn’t ready. She has very little experience as a dance teacher and it showed with Victor. I doubt her training skills will improve much by the start of Season 17. She needs to do herself a favor and do something else with her talents, because DWTS is sadly not a place where her talents are being exhibited properly.
BTW – Anyone else find it annoying that Emma never addressed the fact that she quit Strictly Come Dancing before she was even on it? Like, why even sign up if you’re gonna ditch them just 2 months later?
Maybe this isn’t my business but how come DWTSgossip can confirm certain pros but not others? Like are Tristan and Gleb’s partners still coming to an agreement with DWTS?
Natalie, I don’t think Lindsay let anyone down. She did her best. It’s never easy doing something new, and Victor was a challenging celeb in some ways. She’s not my favorite female pro, but I’ll give her a chance to change my mind.
As for Emma, I don’t find it at all annoying that she doesn’t feel the need to explain her business dealings with SCD and DWTS to the world. It’s really between her and them, and maybe no one’s asked her about it.
I am super excited to find out who Sharna is paired with. Actually if John Stamos is cast, I think they would make a perfect pair.
Am I the only one that isn’t too familiar with Emma?
Jimmy Connors would be my sports pick for this season. I think he and Sharna would be an exciting, fun couple.
Seeing Lindsay Vonn’s name makes me think of other Olympic athletes from sports we haven’t seen on DWTS.
We’ve had speed skating, figure skating and snowboarding. Is that it?
What about ski jumping? Remember Eddie the Eagle? He was the British (I think) alarmingly amateurish ski jumper who you couldn’t help but like even as you would cover your eyes in terror every time he jumped.
Put him with Peta!
Natalie, I think those are pretty harsh comments of both Lindsay and Emma. Lindsay is a great dancer and if she’s being offered a spot for a 2nd season, I don’t think it’s worth taking it out on her personally. I don’t think anybody would turn that down. I’ll agree that I don’t think she was amazing with Victor, but I think it’s worth giving anybody a 2nd chance.
As for Emma, I completely agree with Cidra that it’s her business and not ours. She was announced as a pro dancer, but maybe it wasn’t her decision.
I agree Cidra,
I don’t necessarily think Lindsay let anyone down. She is 19 and she also had victor who was ready to quit the second week. Yeah I think she can definitely improve and hopefully she will this season because she is very talented girl and I think she can be promising. Hopefully they give her someone willing to work so she give them choreography rather than dancing around them. So with that being said I’m so excited for the season! Come on September 4th!
I have to agree with Natalie. I don’t think Lindsay is pro material. She doesn’t know how to teach or choreograph and she makes me feel ennui.
Lindsay’s inclusion is surprising. Lacey, for all her flaws, was good on sytycd. One of the best all around dancers IMO. Chelsie was very popular too. I compare Lindsay to Chelsie, Lacey and Julianne. All young. Lacey handled challenging partners like Chaz and Steve O well. . Chelsie did wonders for Ty. Julianne was amazing of course with Apolo. Thing is dance wise, those three even at that young age, were commanding and memorable IMO. Lindsay, while nice, not so much. Seems young and very green. Feel like even with a partner like Ross, will it be more like a Peta situation where the pro for lucky with a great star, i think her goal was dwts as a kid seeing like Julianne on the show. But she is no Julianne. She does not have her dance skills or charisma. The same foolish producers who thought their awful prom episode was Emmy worthy must also think Lindsay is the next Julianne. No. Good for her to return but as a long time fan, it is disappointing. i find it sad some pros like Fabian, Damien and even Anna D. not given another chance but she does. Especially when her dancing and teaching is noticeable worse than Chelsie or Anna.
Also with the sea of blonde from pros to troupe, superficially, that alone makes me want Anna over others. Also tptb, stop trying to make the troupe happen.
WOW… did anyone see Val’s tweet re Oksana??? Has she really been let go from DWTS… that would be a darn shame because of all the blondes in the troupe she really stood out.
Oksana is out per Val’s twitter.
I’m okay with that one. She was a hotmess when I saw BWAT.
My bet on taking a troupe spot is Brittany Cherry from SYTYCD this past season she is a fantastic latin dancer she has performed on dwts numerous times and i wouldn’t be surprised if she is a trouper. I would say Jenna Johnson who also was on SYTYCD but she will be on tour during this season but i see her being in troupe season 18 or maybe even pro because she has more accolades than Lindsay and she a fantastic latin dancer.
I don’t think Lindsay’s inclusion is that surprising. TPTB are still foolishly trying to recapture the magic of Julianne. Chelsie got a number of shots at it but failed the test. Now they’re giving Lindsay a second season to see if she can make the magic happen. If she doesn’t get lucky and land a Donald Driver, then my guess is she’ll be out, and it will be Whitney’s turn in the Spring.
Grant, please tell me Brittany and Jenna are *not* blondes.
Haha! They are both brunettes, Cidra.
Cidra they are both brunette hehe! youtube their solos they are quite creative i can see them putting together better routines than witney and lindsay.
Susan – Lol! You’re right, Eddie the Eagle was a British ski jumper (possibly our only one!). He popped up recently on the UK version of Splash! (I think, maybe he even won it!??). He seems like a game sort and I’d rather see his type than Tanning Mom (or whatever).
Feeling a bit sorry for Lindsey with some of the comments here. I don’t think we’ll know if she can cut it until she gets a chance with a decent celeb – Victor was so disappointing last time – defeatist and glum. I’m glad she’s getting another chance, but I accept her probation is over and she needs to prove she can teach and choreograph well. And it’s a shame she’s lumbered with being the new Saint Julianne of Hough – no one needs that!
Natalie – we don’t know for sure if Emma was the dumper or the dumpee. I do suspect it was her decision, but best not condemn her without knowing the facts, eh?! It’s better for her to do what’s right for her life long term – even if it does cause a few problems elsewhere and I don’t think she should feel obliged to spill…. None of which stops me being curious about what went on, of course! 😉
I wouldn’t be too hard on Emma either for not explaining anything. They have to sign contracts and TPTB has them all bound to a certain level of secrecy until “they” are ready to publicize something.
Also, and imo, TPTB doesn’t want to let all the cats out of the bag just yet. I’ve always thought they want us to keep guessing what is what. It makes good buzz and speculation for promotion and to keep things exciting. And I have to admit…I like it that way. I love this time before the show starts as much as the show itself.
As for Lindsey, I’m not feeling her either and doubt I ever will, but, I’m thinking they might have wanted her for a younger celebrity. Someone like Anna or Kym wasn’t a good fit, but, I would have rather had Witney or Chelsie versus Lindsay.
And that makes me sad if Oksana isn’t part of the troupe. I loved her. 🙁
Oh and Susan 2, a big YES to JIMMY CONNERS! He was one of my tennis mentors. I had two of his tennis racquets at the time. lol
I also love the idea of a retired gymnast!
Thanks Grant and Kaitlyn. That’s good news; sign ’em up for The Troupe. 😉
It does surprise me that they have asked Lindsay back, unfortunately for this show, first impressions are everything, and to me she failed. Once I heard her call Victor a “baby” in one of their video packages that was it for me. Like Cidra said, unless she kills it this season, she probably will have rode her last professional rodeo (or danced her last season as a pro)!
@Cidra – Donald Driver was a gem!!
@Vogue – Agree on both Emma and Lindsay. And how did Jimmy Connors turn out to be younger than I am!! LOL
There goes the last of the original troupers!
I am looking forward to this season So much:) Notice how we have almost no clue as to who the celebrities are and are mostly sure of the pros… my wish is
Male pro dancers
Derek
Sasha
Mark
Tristan
Tony
Val
Gleb is hot but sorry did not do it for me
Girls
Emma
Whitney
Karina
Sharna
Peta
Chelsie
He is one funny guys!
I am rooting for SASHA., Hoping Dancing With The Stars gives him a chance, he is a great teacher., had a couple of lessons with him myself ( Must admit he is one talented guy) And he is nice too! I am a also a huge fan of EMMA heard she she is not doing SCD – praying DWTS promotes her! I hope Witney is back as well I am also a BIG Derek and Tony fan so thrilled that they are confirmed in… Everyone else I am ok with with …
#Sandy I agree with you 100% I like Lindsay but not enough for Pro status… she in my opinion did not prove her self yet.. This season would rather Emma…
If Oksana is out, Emma- promoted to pro,Sasha -not confirmed yet, no word on Whitney,so who is in the troupe?
I agree with Vogue about Lindsay. I would have preferred Chelsie or Witney to her this season. Not because she didn’t WOW me last season but she seems sort of blah too me as a teacher but I can’t deny she is a great dancer. Just because you can dance doesn’t mean you can teach.
I am actually excited to see Emma as a pro this season! I’ve always loved her on the troop so I hope she brings it!
Yeah, I’m with Vogue on Lindsey. I thought she came off as immature and amateurish. If TPTB are trying for “Julianne 2.0”, they’re (IMO) waaaaay off base with Lindsey.
If we’re sticking with blondes, I would have preferred Chelsie or Witney to Lindsay as well. I’d take Anna over all three. However, we have Lindsay. I’m willing to keep an open mind and see what she does this season before writing her off. As Jessica said, not everyone can teach, and some can teach experienced dancers but not newbies.
I’m very excited to see Emma as a competing pro. My guess is she’s likely to get a lemon, but hopefully she knows how to make lemonade (like Sharna and Tristan).
And chelsie has confirmed she’s out…
I will take Lindsay over Witney though. Pro celebs if they get her since it will be all about Witney and the camera. She came off more immature than Lindsay and her appearance on sytycd with Paul in sytycd was not impressive.
SCD ratings have started to increase again and looking at their new pros, they are making the better choices. Going for little experienced Lindsay or Witney in seeing another Julianne or youth vote is not working. Especially since neither of them were even that popular on sytycd. Chelsie, Janette, Pasha, Lacey all made it to the top ten without ever falling in the bottom.
If Kym or Anna was being put aside due to age, saying it now, a bit wrong considering Tony himself is not that young himself (comparatively) and his choreo is still so boring. Comes off as double standard.
@Melissa I think when it comes to the age thing with Tony, he is usually given older contestant (minus Melissa and Audrina) because he is a tall and older man so the vibe fits in comparison if an older celeb were to dance with a younger pro. This isn’t always the case because we’ve seen Tristan dance with Nancy Grace and Gladys but overall it’s usually Tony who gets paired with them.
As for Anna and Kym, maybe they are having younger male contestants this season where it would seem more “appropriate” to have them dance with younger pros (such as Lindsay) — I’m not to sure why Chelsie isn’t in the mix anymore but it seems to me Chelsie was replaced by Linday and Anna was replaced by Sharna (and maybe Gleb for Maks).
As from past seasons we’ve seen Louis and Dmitry replaced by Val and Tristan in season 13 (with the exception of the All-Stars because they had Sabrina come back) as well as Lacey with Peta once Chelsie back seasn1 4. So I think it may depend on the demographic of the contestants or the producers wanting to switch it up every once in a while.
If it is a case of younger male celebs, it is still a double standard. Zendaya is young and got Val so is older than Chelsie. It is not like Chelsie is so old, lol. Also Tony hasn’t always gotten older. Stacey Sara, Marissa, Kathy, Wendy, Kate were all not old. Older celebs get Corky.
Wouldn’t surprise me if replacing Chelsie is more about the tptb misguided thinking Lindsay somehow is popular. Oh please. Even in sytycd world, Chelsie is very popular and well liked still over Jenna, Lindsay, Witney and Brittany.
Well, it’s official – Kym just tweeted that she’s going to be a judge on DWTS Australia. There was someone here at Pure that posted this might not have been Kym’s idea – and I wonder if that’s true. Why choose to go from a show with 12-14 million viewers to one that draws about 3 million? The only reasons I can think of are
1) She’s tired of the US and wants to move back home to Aus, or
2) Sitting out S17 really wasn’t her idea, and this is a good enough gig to fill the void.
Any other ideas out there?
Sally, how about…
3) She wants a sabbatical from being a competing pro, which (as we’ve all said) can be brutally hard work.
4) At 37 years of age she’s looking to carve out a new career path for when her dancing days are behind her.
I’m with Cids. I tend to think (like with all athletes their bodies start hurting past 30-35 and it’s getting harder and harder to keep up. Judging gives Kym the perfect way to still keep her foot in the door and retire at the same time. Plus, I bet the paycheck to judge in Australia is a good one. And I agree Sally, she gets to go home too. I bet we will still her, Anna, and Maks still make special appearances in pro numbers though when they can.
I agree with Cidra. It has been mentioned she has been homesick for a few seasons. Also comparing numbers is apples to oranges given usa is a bigger population.
I am back to wishing they had rotating pros so pros would not get tired and they have time to pursue other opportunities.
I think Kym’s accident put everything into perspective and I don’t think she has ever fully recovered from it.
I think this opportunity has been a blessing brought forth to her.
Kym has been interested in re-establishing herself in Aussie media for a while. After all, only earlier this year she did Celebrity Apprentice
Speaking of Kym, she did an interview with an Australian morning show today about her judging stint on DWTS Australia!
http://au.tv.yahoo.com/dancing-with-the-stars/news/article/-/18664108-kym-johnson-joins-dancing-with-the-stars-as-new-cast-revealed/
I agree, Sandy. I think that scary accident while dancing with Hines really threw Kym mentally and emotionally. It was a miracle she didn’t break her neck and end up paralyzed. Something like that is bound to change your perspective on things.
I’m happy for Kym and hope to see her again this spring,I think judging one season in Australia may even help her with her routines on DWTS. As for Lindsay I think the TPTB has lost it,I understand they want that younger demo but I don’t think many people made a connection with Lindsay,but people love Chelsie!Anna is obviously my favorite I get that she’s not exactly right for the demo but neither are some of the either pros,bottom line TPTB get it right next season!
Don’t know if you saw, but Julz gave a little more insight on to the status of the troupe in his tweets. He confirmed there is a troupe & it’s “mixed up this season.” Sounds to me like they’ll just be rotating troupe members that get to perform each week.
Update to Prowatch Guys! Some good and bad news depending who are your fave pros. xx
That red “IN” next to Tristan’s name just made my day!
Please let the last male pro spot go to Henry!!!
Last night/early this morning Henry tweeted something that sounds promising! The tweet says: Can’t wait 4 Sydney –> LA –> NYC –> LA … #DWTS
Crossing my fingers that Henry gets that last pro spot!
I was hoping Gleb would be back. Also Anna. I didn’t care one way or the other about Chelsie.
So, the ladies are set. One more male to go. I guess I really don’t care who that is. Seems it Could be Louis or Henry. Whoever it’s I am okay with. Because they are all amazing dancers who will give their best.
Waiting impatiently to get the cast announcement and season underway! Time to get my DWTS poetry writing pen filled up and ready to go!
Yay tristan and this unfortunate for Gleb! But hopefully this means Henry will FINALLY get his shot at pro!
I just feel neutral about Gleb so I’m not sad that it’s Tristan, and now I’m hoping for Henry. But I’m sorry to you Vogue because I know you were hoping for Gleb. I wonder how much it had to do with which celebs finally signed on, if that’s the reason we didn’t know about these last couple male pro slots and it turns out that Gleb wasn’t the right match and someone else (me hoping for Henry) is.
When I first read that tweet about Gleb a few minutes ago, I built up some idea in my head that someone awesome like Robin Roberts was coming on and would only do it with her friend Maks. But I see that she’s returning to her work full time next week.
Lesey-If its like last season cast reveal all the troupe have to be there to dance for the audience during breaks, I remember everyone on this board was excited last season thinking henry got a spot because he cancelled a interview with afterbuzz tv the day of the reveal only to find out he was dancing with his fellow troupe members but crossing my fingers the last spot goes to him it still can.
Yay, Tristan is in! Last spot better be for Henry, since Gleb is out. September 4th, hurry up, please!
SOOOO happy about Tristan!!! Now keeping my fingers crossed for Henry 🙂
Thanks Jen. Yes, I love Gleb. It’s sad. Hopefully, we’ll still see him dancing in pro numbers sometimes or a return in another season.
Also, I love Henry just as much too. So, if he’s picked, I’ll be in heaven with that idea too. *keeping fingers crossed!!
Sasha is great too. He’s furious on the dance floor. He’d give it his all…no doubt. I’d rather see Sasha as a pro versus Louis.
And then there is Maks!! As most of you know, he’s in L.A. too. Could there be a change of mind on him or could he be a part of the show in another way? Or maybe he will just be back for some pro numbers like last season? Hmmm….
I think Henry has the last spot.. NY-LA GMA-NY DWTS-LA.
We will soon find out.
Tom said he’ll announce the cast LIVE from New York. I’m assuming that means he’ll be in New York but not the cast.
I also noticed the female celebrities rumored are short, which make the rumors that either Henry or Sasha will be promoted even more plausible.
I wonder if they got a celeb who wanted Maks and that is why he suddenly headed to LA?
I had wondered about Gleb because a couple of days ago I didn’t think he was in LA despite his tweet he would be.
Maks was in LA all of last season as long as his bro is in la i think he is there too. Someone mentioned somewhere else that he called dwts “the worse show ever” Im thinking things didnt end on good terms between the two unless hes just mad they didnt give him a partner again.
I thought that Gleb would be back since they featured a lot of the returning pros in their season 17 promo. They showcase Cheryl, Peta, Emma, Derek, Val, Sharna and Gleb!
I have a strong feeling that Sharna will be back this season! A lot of people responded to her work with Andy last season and they want to see what else she can do. I hope she takes Peta’s path this season because when Peta did her second season with DWTS she won! So hopefully this may be Sharna’s year to shine 🙂
Woo-hoo!!! So relieved that Tristan is in 😛 *happy dancing all over the room*
I’d have been fine with Gleb in the 6th spot, but since he’s out, it dang well better be Henry!
As for Maks? No. Hypocrisy is a huge turnoff to me. So I’d be disgusted to see Maks turn up on DWTS after the nasty things he’s said about the show recently. If that’s how he feels, that’s fine; but just say “enough’s enough” and move on.
I think the only way Maks would be back is if he was promised a certain celebrity but I honestly think it’ll be Henry, if Gleb is out.
Wonder if Maks would come back to partner with Elizabeth..
Doubt Maks is coming back but please direct me to where he said (direct quotes) all these ‘nasty things’ about the show. I recall an interview where he talked very candidly about having been on the show for so long and wanting to move on but I personally wouldn’t categorize it as talking badly about the show.
In reference to the person who said he said ‘worst show’ (‘ever’ was added later by others as I saw the twitter convo), he can have a very dry sense of humor. In a video interview of he/Karina, he was asked how working with her again was & he said horrible, paused a few seconds, & then started laughing. He does that kind of stuff a lot. I just never put much stock in anything I read about ANYONE having said this/that unless I actually heard it myself or saw a direct quote.
In any regard, I hope Maks doesn’t come back because I do believe him when he says he doesn’t think his heart would be in it & I think he truly wants to do something else. I’m guessing Henry or maybe even Sasha for the last spot – especially given the height of the rumored celebs.
Am I the only one wants Dimitry back? I’ve always liked his dancing..
I write DWTS poems to share. But I also write tons of other things inckuding poetry of all natures. This is what poetry means to me,
POETRY – EXPRESSIONS OF THE HEART
Lines of poetry, vivid expressions of the heart
Spoken, written, giving clarity to our emotions
Inspirations felt inward, outwardly expressed
Words flowing as a pen strikes a chord of reflection
Lines on the page magnified with hope and love
Creating crescendos of musicality and spirituality
Expressions of the heart bouncing off the page
Emotions bursting forth as in a heart-filled chorus
Blending an interpretation of joyous praise
Etching the written word in the reader’s heart!
Written: February 27, 2011 by Lois A Troutman
Check out Gleb’s Twitter,looks like he’s back!I don’t think they bothered changing the pros this season.
Kashti, we’ll have to wait and see. Maks is in LA too and it doesn’t mean he’s going to be a pro this season. They might just still be part of the show somehow (in pro numbers etc).
Lois, nice! I’m looking forward to your new DWTS poems again this season.
Well that would really stink if Maks is back. These will he, or won’t he, or he’s not doing the show, are old, stale, and lame. Just like Maks.
Kashti, DWTSGOSSIP says Gleb is out as pro.
Glebs in dwtsgossip twitter got it mixed up!!
Yay Gleb is in! Check out the update!!
Alrighty, then, Gleb’s in, 😀 I’m ecstatic for him and happy for Vogue (LOL). Maybe we’ll get lucky and Elizabeth Berkley will get Sexy Gleb instead of Dull-as-Dishwater Tony.
On the down side, that means Henry got the cold shoulder yet again which is too annoying for words! He’s way too good to waste away in the DWTS Troupe. I hope he gets the Strictly Ballroom gig in Australia.
Ok…thanks…it took my computer 6min to refresh in order for me to say I saw this: DWTSGossip @DWTSGossip 16m
@LilMatt9889 Gleb is IN … I got his mixed – up. Sorry!
I was hoping for Henry to get a chance….maybe there will be more side by side challenges & trio dances for him to appear in 😉
WOO HOOOOOO!! I am so happy, Cids, and yes yes yesss to GLEB and ELIZABETH!! SSSSssssssss! 😀 😀 😀 😀
And Ditto about Henry. He needs promoted in the worst way. They should have replaced Tony with Henry!
Happy Gleb is in! Henry can wait, not a fan. Though Tony still being on a surprise. Rather see dwts poach from scd and bring on Artem or Pasha.
CC – Dmitry’s dancing *is* lovely; but I think his personality is too understated for the producers’ tastes.
Melissa – I think if Elizabeth Berkley is cast and paired with Gleb, and they put together a decent run, it could be curtains for Tony. The show needs a tall pro, Tony was their go-to guy; but Gleb could also fill that role, and he’s both younger and sexier.
Wonderful to have Gleb again!
@cidra, I agree and would love to see that pairing. No ringer talk because all of the celebs or a lot of them have dance and/or choreography experience.
I’m not a fan of Henry either,average choreography and dancing. For me more standing out Dimitry or Sasha. I think Sasha deserve chance to be a pro,as he is the longest troupe dancer.
I agree with you Dancer. My money is 100% on Sasha.He deserve to be a pro. Sorry for Gleb, but last season he didn’t stand out for me, very strong Russian accent and no personality. I’d rather have Dimitry. He is also tall and good looking and great dancer.There is a possibility Sasha be a good match for Snooki, she is a pin size and similar body mass.I would not mind to have Loise, but he is a bit old
I’m happy for Gleb, although I prefer Henry over him. I agree, though, that Gleb would look great with Elizabeth. I’m excited to see what Gleb can do with a partner like Elizabeth. Sept. 4th, please come soon!
Phew! So happy Gleb and Tristan will be back.
I think they should give Corbin to Sharna. She can showcase her talent more and see how well she can work with a partner that can move.
If Mark is out, I don’t think it was his choice, since he was excited abou the new season starting. Ugh can it be Sept 4th already!!!
@Princess Heidi, I agree Mark should focus on his music. I am not a fan, but reports say he seems to be doing really well with his music this off-season. DWTS Gossip is reporting the couples have already started rehearsing. Would TPTB pull one pro and replace he/she with another pro so close after rehearsals and so close to the cast announcement?
So happy for Sasha Farber. Just on Wetpaint: Sasha is dancing with Snooki.Well deserved elevation.
And the pro merry-go-round just keeps spinning. 😛 Wow, this is entertaining.
Snooki might be more mature than she was a few years ago, but if I were Mark, I’d still opt out.
Welcome back, PH. We missed your snark.
I think Wetpaint posted an exclusive confirming Snookie and Sasha being partners! I really hope that Sasha gets an “Andy” season like Sharna did in season 16 🙂
Nae: I totally agree! Corbin and Sharna would make a great team this season! He has a performing background and musicality on his side so Sharna could work wonders with him! Plus he guested on DWTS in season 13 for broadway week so he knows what it’s like in the ballroom!
I mean Sasha and Snookie would make sense. She is like 4’9″? and Sasha is relatively shorter than the other male pros so it works. I’m happy for him 🙂
You assume Mark was officially in, deena. And remember, maks was in last season up to 3 or 4 days before the announcement.
If wetpaint is the originating source, it is far less likely to be true. :::rolls eyes:::
As much as I love Sasha, I don’t trust wetpaint for valid intel…eventually Sasha and Henry will get the pro spots they deserve, too bad I’m not a patient person! 0:)
Welcome Back Heidi 🙂
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Well, glad my sources were right in the first place. Mark is IN. #Iwasstartingtodoubtthem
Welcome back PH! Great analogy Cidra – pro merry-go-round! Apparently it’s at it again, if Mark is in and Sasha out. And quite frankly, while Sasha seems like a very nice guy, I really want Henry to get the next leg up from the troupe.
I would be under the assumption that their will be only 12 couples. I can’t imagine the show with it’s new one night format could possibly squeeze a 13th couple into the lineup.
@Princess Heidi, I forgot about Gleb and Maks last seasonm, so TPTB could make those last minute changes.
Based on all rumors an gossips, my final 12 are:
Male pros : Derek Female pros: Karina
Mark Cheryl
Val Sharna
Tony Emma
Tristan Peta
Sasha Lindsay
Troupe: Possibly cut to two couples
Male: Henry Female Whitney
????? No one confirmed??????? No one confirmed
If Sasha is only in cuz of Snooki, I am not happy. I mean that they could have easily given Snooki to Mark, (Shawn is the same height she isn’t that short) and promoted Henry instead. No offense to Sasha but Henry has so much more to offer both teaching and choreography wise. All I am saying if they were gonna promote any of the troupe members it should have been Henry.
I’m not sure about Cheryl and Karina returning because if they have already started rehersals, then they wouldn’t be in LA because Cheryl recently tweeted: “Vegas bound! ✈” and “Photo: Vegas, you ready for us? @karina_smirnoff (link to Cheryl’s tumblr)” HELP!?!?
Emily–pros and their new partners have trained in locations OTHER than LA before…although I doubt they are training in Vegas.
Glad Mark is back in, still wish Henry had gotten a chance this season. Guess we’ll see what Sept 4th brings!!!
No offence to Angela, your comment is a bit harsh… The show CLEARLY liked Sasha not just because of Snooki but for the fact that he is a great choreographer and an exeptionallly talented dancer. I guess that’s what they were looking for! Every dancer is unique and has their own style. I simply prefer Sasha over other troupe dancers .I am very happy that Sasha is promoted to pro status if the rumors are true – he is in my opinion worthy and deserving.
Using the phrase “no offense…” before commenting on someone else’s opinion does not make it okay, kitty. You appear to be a newbie here and a Sasha fan – which is fine. But we don’t tell other people their opinions are wrong, or “harsh”. Everyone is allowed to have a different opinion than you. If you want to post here, state why you disagree, and give your opinion, period.
Attention Sasha fans: if you expect everyone to love him and agree he is the best thing since sliced bread, you are destined for disappointment. We try to practice good netiquette here, and have low tolerance for fans coming in here to start trouble.
Kay- I read through Cheryl’s tweets and one of them said that her and Karina are going to Vegas for the launch of something(not sure what it is) so if they’re in I doubt that their partner would have went with them because they would probably have no time.
I like Sasha as a dancer, if he is promoted from the troupe to a pro (although they all are professional dancers) I’m curious to see how he is as a teacher.
I am pretty sure that Henry would be a great teacher, as he has done choreography/teaching for movies (The Great Gatsby) —
Either way, I’m happy Mark is back and I hope he brings it this season with his choreography because in my opinion, it’s sometimes a hit and miss with him. I’m also happy, if Gleb is back, that we see more of what he could bring as well.
@Heidi Thanks, you’re right. Everyone deserves to state their opinion. Besides @kitty I wasn’t criticizing Sasha at all, I said nothing negative about him.
Awwww, it’s soooo good to have Heidi back! WOO HOO!
I am not causing trouble I am too just stating my opinion just like Angela was. Our opinions are different I never wrote hers was wrong I just wrote it was Harsh.. She prefers Henry, I prefer Sasha. Its really up to the show what they choose who they see would be the best fit or more deserving. I prefer Sasha because he makes me feel at easy , he is always happy and always smiling. I like his choreography – to me its very sharp and very clever and his dancing is very to the point and fast.. he seems like he is very outgoing and funny.. has a great sence of humor. Is that enough reasoning why I think he should be promoted? I am a ballroom dancer who took lessons from him and both my partner and I were impressed to say the least.
Yay Heidi is back!! Missed ya!! Excited for the season?!
Peta just tweeted: “Long day today… But it’s not over! Headed to rehearse with @MarkBallas for something special ;)”!! Hopefully that something special is DWTS!!
So I read all the rumors (I have been working on Masters degree stuff) but I’m back and cannot wait to weigh in on some stuff so:
Snooki: She better get Mark. That would be comic genius.
Elizabeth: She is tall but I can see her with Tony or Gleb.
Amber: She needs Val that would be great.
JC: Karina?
Valerie: Love her and glad to hear she has Tristan or at least from what I’ve seen online.
No Chelsie but Lindsay and Cheryl………ugh. I’d prefer Chelsie and Lindsay and no Cheryl.
Anyways, great job as always guys!
And I told you, kitty, why you’re not to do that. Read my comment again – said telling someone they are wrong or calling their opinions harsh. It’s not up for debate. And you being a ballroom dancer gives your opinion no extra weight around here. We’re not that impressed or easily swayed. For all we know, you could be his mom…
Gleb just landed back in LA I hope he makes the same mistake as last season and starts following his partner on twitter before they reveal the official cast. Probably just a rookie move.
@Princess Heidi comment #384 – LOL!!! Welcome back!
This could be completely wrong but maybe Sasha was partnered with snooki but then gabby Douglas deal finally went through so they gave mark snooki and gave Sasha to gabby? It would make it 13 celebs but maybe it was something too good to pass up?
Could they have an uneven group? More female celebs than males?
Judging by DWTS latest instagram Val has got Elizabeth Berkley, super excited for this one, I think it will be good!!
Hope TPTB aren’t gearing up to give us another gruesome showmance with Val and Elizabeth like they did with Val and Kelly Monaco. That was one of the blessings of his partnership with Zendaya last season.
You said it Cidra – I hated the showmance between Val and Kelly. Gross.
I was worried there was going to be a huge overhaul of the pros this season…glad to see most of our regulars back.
Outside of Valerie (Tristan) and Snooki (likely Mark), my predictions for the rest of the male pro-female celeb pairings depend on how they place Elizabeth Berkley. Right off the bat she seems like Derek’s usual type. However, she’s 5’10, which makes me wonder if they would put Derek with someone who in heels might be taller than him? But then again, last season Zendaya was 5’10 and the show put her with Val even though she was sometimes slightly taller than him.
So, if Elizabeth is NOT with Derek, then I predict:
Elizabeth-Gleb (who actually would look gorgeous together)
Christina-Derek
Amber-Val
Leah-Tony
However, if the producers are really anticipating an Elizabeth/Christina finale (which I can believe), they likely want to put them with Derek and Val, so:
Elizabeth-Derek
Christina-Val
Leah-Gleb
Amber-Tony
@ Cidra, I don’t think the producers will try to make a showmance between Val and Elizabeth since Elizabeth is married to Ralph Lauren’s son. But yes, I agree with you – the showmance bewteen Val and Kelly was annoying and nauseating (in my opinion).
Heidi, I did read your comment. I am not his Mom LOL. Just a girl who likes how he dancers. I am a huge fan of #dwts and Derek and Mark and Val and Tristan and Sasha. We all have our opinions and tastes…I never said that’s mine are right and someone else’s are wrong.
I can’t believe Tristan has yet another geriatric partner with health problems. i am so disappointed. i hope it’s not true, though.
I’ll be surprised if all the rumors are true. I hope all the good ones are. Re Tristan, I would guess that he’s happy to have a job with so much exposure and relatively good pay. If a pro does it right, they could take Valerie to the end. There will be tremendous publicity around her and who ever her partner is if she is on the show. And most of all, who ever gets her gets to be part of a very inspiring journey. Plenty of young pretty women have come and gone on the show, even placed in the finals and aren’t remembered even a season later. If Derek got her everyone would be crying foul because of all the publicity she’ll receive and because she will probably will get a share of automatic votes that are based on inspiration and respect. You can be sure that if Val got her the fam would capitalize on her inspiring journey. I believe he also would honestly just be inspired and also try his best to showcase her. That’s also what I think Tristan will do if he’s her partner if she’s on the show.
Even though they aren’t pros this season but our troupers oksana Dmytrenko and her boyfriend the amaZing Jonathan platero just got engaged! It’s so cute they have the video on YouTube! Congrats to those beauties!
Tristan isn’t a big choreographer. I believe he’s even admitted as much. Until or unless that changes, he’s not going to get young, able partners. Lord, he danced with an icon – he seemed pretty happy with that.
I feel like Tristan is on the show for the journey that his celeb will go through rather than actually winning. I doubt he’s upset if he has Valerie because like Heidi said, he seemed pretty happy with Gladys and they made it to week 6 which was great.
Think Tristan’s choreography is fine but each pro brings different things to the table. Better than Tony or Maks. But I think despite not getting a contender, he has had legends like Dorothy and Gladys. Of the rumored cast, Valerie is the one everyone ( media outlets) are most excited. Even non dwts viewers seem excited for her and rooting for her. So yes, she might not be Christina or Elizabeth, but she is a big name and will have tons of support. Think Tristan will be fine.
Any gossips who is Sharna will be paired with? She has done good job with Andy.
Sharna has been in Hawaii, though I think from her tweets she came back to the US yesterday…? Wonder when she meets her celeb partner? Some apparently have started dancing and others haven’t?
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Ok, Ill comment here now bummed about gleb 🙁 but glad hes still apart of the show. Even though we will know so soon im still gonna guess snooki/sasha(wetpaint could be right) christina/mark, amber/derek, elizabeth/val, leah/tony and valarie/tristan.
I also haven’t kept up on all this, but could this be the season of DWTS where they go from being all ballroom to being a variety of dance styles? If so, then the pros they invite to participate would be quite different, no?
Same disappointed about Gleb. Rather see him with Christina than Mark.
More disappointing is Tyne. Seriously no ballroom,. Lacey and Chelsie can do contemporary, very well and dance ballroom. How insulting. If they moving away from ballroom, why is Tony there on the male side? Or even Val as they are less cross trained. Mark got a good dancer so I expect more ripping off sytycd ideas this season. Especially if they decide to add more contemporary, jazz and who knows what else.
Kristen Burtt posted a video of Tyne doing Latin dances.
Really not sure I like this development (if it’s true – we’ll find out in the morning!)
Let me amend what I said about Tyne: I’m sure she’s had SOME ballroom training – she was in several pro dances over the seasons, so she’s obviously not completely inept. But she, for me, is in the same category as Jaymz – somebody that’s really & truly a contemporary dancer who just picked up some ballroom along the way. She may be a fantastic contemporary dancer (she was in This is It and Burlesque), but I doubt her ballroom will hold a candle to the likes of Karina, Sharna, Cheryl, etc., who have only ever done ballroom and devoted their lives to it.
No doubt she’s a great dancer, but I just wonder how she’ll be able to teach someone else ballroom if she isn’t an expert. Lacey comes to mind too but she at least had Latin and SOME standard training.
I’m mostly disappointed that they chose her over Anna, Chelsie, etc who have much more training and have more fans.
I’ll reserve judgement for later, but it’s still a bit disappointing.
I think they’re on to something for sure with Tyne. All of her recent follows on twitter are other Pros & she tweeted a pic of the NYC skyline.. she’s definitely there.. interesting to see if reports are right about what capacity she’s in
surprised they dumped oksana. i’d put witney or chelsie in as a pro over emma, but i think it’s a good call to move lindsay to the troupe. no offense to mark ballas fans, but i’d sit him out and give henry a pro slot – great dancer, and deserving same as sasha.
it does seem like the direction is heading toward more watered down styles – less ballroom overall, which would make sense adding a great contemporary dancer like Tyne, who also does some ballroom…
mixed feelings about that whole thing but then again, we’re 17 seasons in with heavily falling ratings, so changes are needed – i’d start by
mixing up the stale judging table.
I will have to wait and see how I feel about Tyne. Her latin video is very recent so maybe they talked to her about a pro spot in the future, but she had to brush up or needed to really crack down on her ballroom. Her arms do bug me in the video though.
So are they going to eliminate more “Ballroom and Latin dances” and add more styles like contemporary/jazz/hip hop/etc. into the mix now?
well that latest update just ruined my night. 🙁
Ok, I don’t know about you guys but I HATE that they downgraded people to troupe!! It’s just not fair. Also, the troupe must be going to NYC as well because Lindsay and Witney both tweeted yesterday that they were headed to NYC to bee on Good Morning America. Thoughts?
tyne – http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL827AC02B2EA76F12
well, I like new pros for best and worst. I have to wait and see about what Tyne can do. After all, DwtS isn’t just about ballroom dance – and we all know it.
So I liked Emma and Sasha replacing Lindsay and Gleb (who did a good job, but not GREAT, last season, like Sharna, IMO – of course).
I’d like to see Henry and Witney as pros next season. Love Witney.
I was told on twitter, Dee, that Oksana hurt her back.
I think Tyne is another bonehead move but I don’t know her too well yet,so I’m excited!
Susan, I saw Tyne dancinf Latin in that video and not impressed. It is very like sytycd dancers who picked up ballroom. If they were going to do that, why not just get Allison Holker as a pro.
I guess the Sasha and Snooki rumor that was previously mentioned was correct all along, would have much rather had Henry.
Don’t understand why Tyne was brought in. Why not Chelsie – who is 24 years old, already on contract and is a ballroom specialist with training in other styles. This is just weird.
Melissa, totally agree about Tyne. Maybe her level of “flair” matches that of her partner, Bill Nye the science guy.
Steve, her arms bugged me as well. Overall, I’m totally underwhelmed.