Afterbuzz TV Breaks Down Dancing With The Stars Season 17 Week 8
AfterBuzz TV has released their post game wrap up for Dancing With The Stars Season 17 Week 8. Tyne Stecklein joins them this time. It’s interesting getting Tyne’s inside perspective about Cher since she’s worked for her in Las Vegas. Anna Trebunskaya also joins them again (who I’m seeing in a different light this season and it’s not a favorable one sad to say. I didn’t realize until this season that she had so many issues with Derek.) With that said, here ya go. Let us know what you think.
They were more complimentary of Leah than I was expecting. I still don’t think Elizabeth will go home next week though. I have a bad feeling it might be Bill. The two dances might be too much for him and I’m worried about his scores. Always good insight from them though!
They’re WRONG on Ambers score..Bruno gave em a 10 for 28!
I agree with you, Vogue. I think Anna has many issues with Derek.
Honestly Derek needs to leave. He is so under appreciated and they always seem to hate on him. I honestly think there just jealous since he has four trophy and a Emmy. Derek go on the bigger and better things and silence all the haters
Btw no one complains when Val goes shirtless in every dance at least derek didn’t walk down during the opening without a shirt
Anna nailed it when she said Peta is the female Version of Mark. But I don’t think she has many issues with Derek. She is just very honest this season, no filter. Maybe it’s the hormones ๐ I think it was Anna who got a hug from Derek after the opening pro number choreographed by the Schwimmers.
Hi Everyone! I’m going to jump in here early:
@Alex: I read your comments and had to giggle because if you go to YT and read the comments, we get accused of only loving Derek. We can’t win! ๐
I will go on record that Anna loves Derek. She’s been very open and honest about her commentary this season, but I’ve had off-camera conversations with her about Derek and they are always complimentary.
Thanks for watching!
Kristyn
AfterBuzz TV
Kristyn & Co. just can’t win – damned if you love Derek, damned if you don’t ๐ I guess the new rule should be: do not acknowledge Derek in any way, shape, or form, be it positive or negative!
Completely agree with the assessment of Corbin’s dance and Elizabeth’s dance. I do feel Elizabeth is extremely type A and coming off as ‘too hungry’ for the trophy as some celebs in the past- one reason why she’s not connecting with viewers =, plus her lack of connection with Val.
Didn’t agree with a lot of their dance-off comments- Corbin slayed Elizabeth to me and Brant beat Leah.
As for the Derek shirt issue, one of the after show interviews did have Derek saying he planned to wear a wifebeater all week but Amber & Derek together just decided to go for the shirtless on show day. They didn’t say ‘she ripped it off by accident during the live show’.
Hope they are wrong and Leah goes not Jack. People who are positive and show they appreciate the entire experience like Nicole, Jack, Brant, Bill are more pleasant to watch than the poor attitude that Leah (and Tony) often give off. If Christina got kicked off due to poor personality, so should Leah. Christina also danced better than Leah. But unfortunately Leah’s fans are in the main demographic of the show and the others are not.
Yeah, I don’t get the Leah love AT ALL. That baffles me. But I hate her attitude and Tony’s as well, so that likely colors my view of her dancing as well.
Well, I think they are normally very nice, overall, to Derek on Afterbuzz – Anna appears to have some issue with him, but it’s HER issue. And her problem. ๐
As for Derek going shirtless, it seems obvious to me what happened there, but you won’t know that if you don’t watch ALL the interviews. Derek very clearly says that the producers made him wear the sailor outfit and he hated it, didn’t get it, and he didn’t know how to choreograph that part of the dance with that addition – Amber said because of that he had to get it off as soon as possible. He also said that he normally would wear a tank under that, but for some reason (more manipulation?) he didn’t this time. Sounded to me like he was, at the very least, egged on by SOMEONE.
That’s the one thing that I think would benefit the Afterbuzz crew – I think they need to watch all the post show media and listen to what all the pros and celebs say and use that to inform their discussions. Because frankly, I would KILL to hear what Anna has to say about producer manipulations. If she would be brave enough to say it, because that would likely mean the end of her time on the show, permanently. But surely the other folks would weigh in.
EP, based on ALL the interviews together – particularly the OTRC one – I think they decided to remove his shirt because of the sailor suit.
Of course, on further consideration, I suppose that all the other guys in sailor suits were the producers idea as well.
And I wonder just how often they interfere.
And really – Val is shirtless every other week compared to Derek’s once or twice a season, so I’m not sure why he gets a pass. Of course, I haven’t gotten to that part of the show yet, maybe they were so focused on how BAD Liz’s dance was that they didn’t have time to talk about Val’s proclivities. ๐
Some like Val shirtless and some like Derek shirtless. there is nothing wrong with that. How dare Anna not like Derek shitless?
Geez, Jennifer, I’m totally shocked that you COMPLETELY avoid the actual topic and just pull something out of your ass to try and start something. I’m so shocked. You were so worked up you had a pretty interesting typo.
Seriously, I’m tired of your “shit”. Ha. The point was the AMOUNT of shirtlessness by the two pros – not whether some like one guy and some like the other. And, if you’re going to mock Derek being shirtless, it would also be appropriate to mock Val for being shirtless.
I know that nuance is not your strong suit, but please refrain from trying to create different controversies than what is actually being discussed. I was very close to deleting you this time. Next time I just will.
Also wanted to note – Kristyn apparently DID see some of the media after the show. Just got to that part.
I also don’t get the Leah love. I will say that the V. waltz this last show was probably one of her better dances. She’s just been so overscored all season, and has such a rotten attitude that I can’t wait until she leaves.
Hoping top four are Amber, Jack, Corbin and Bill.
Loved the show! Tyne was an awesome guest. ๐
I have a question because Iยดm confused. Usually the seasons have been 10 weeks, is it the same this time? One week they didnยดt eliminate a couple, is it double elimination week 9?
I was glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed that Peta was sort of out-dancing Brant but like Anna said, she is a fierce dancer (like Mark) so it sometimes happens but when I watched their disco routine, I really notice that espeically when they danced side-by-side
As to the Derek, shirtless discussion here, I mean clearly the producers told him to be in the sailor costume with the sailor theme and I believe that Sasha said (during the PopTV interview) that the other dancers who were behind them during that dance didn’t know they were doing that either until the producers set them aside and gave them their costumes.
If Derek took off his shirt, he took off his shirt. I’m not complaining. It’s not like we don’t see other male pros or celebs take off their shirt but it’s always with Derek where people make a big deal over it. I personally love Derek so I didn’t mind at all.
We have 11 weeks this season with a Monday and Tuesday show that week. As for the double elim – we don’t really know. We’ve been speculating as to when it will be.
Thank you PH for your answer!!!
Personally I don’t understand why shirtlessness even became an issue. Derek has gone shirtless only a handful of times in all the dances he’s performed. As for Val, his shirtlessness doesn’t bother me either, except to the extent that I suspect sometimes he might do it for effect, rather than because it’s appropriate to the dance. However, I must say that Val wearing a Spedo was the grossest thing that’s ever been on display in the ballroom. Such bad taste, such bad judgment, and it didn’t even fit the surfer theme. Guh-ross.
All I know is that my 18 year-old daughter exclaimed “I give this dance a ten!!” when Derek took his shirt off on Monday, and nary a word when Val does it. Of course, she’s pretty biased, haha.
Didn’t the producers step in a couple of seasons ago and tell Derek he could not do the “redemption” dance he wanted to do but to do a particular one. I think it was the all star season.
Do the producers tell the other pros what to do or wear or is it just Derek? Really a sailor theme? was it because that Cher originally performed it on a Navy ship? If that was the case then Amber should have been sporting the barely there outfit that Cher wore then…..
We’re not sure about the redemption dance, Katy, we speculated this was the case based on what we know of Derek and what he’s done in the past…and the fact that Henry very baldly stated that Shawn and Derek were going to do that AT that Shawn had to do with Mark.
ETA: someone reminded me that it was the fusion dance – but wasn’t it a tango/Paso fusion??
Yes, tango/paso fusion. Their AT was the one to a Michael Jackson song.
First, the song Amber was given for a rumba was so wildly inappropriate he had to deal with that first. Then, add the uniform?? From things Derek said after, I think he was trying to give it something of a rumba feel and some romanticism and sexiness. I mean they could barely even do any familiar rumba passes, the tempo was so fast. Frankly it pisses me off when they mess with music or other hindrances they give Derek for rumbas–it’s been way too seldom that he could do a full-on, sexy rumba, maybe ONCE in all these seasons.
Then it’s treat to see Derek shirtless on the show, cause he doesn’t do it a lot. So Val sees that and the reaction so he has to do it TWICE as much-UGH and like you see him and think what? meh! AGAIN? He acts like an immature child.
And I don’t t h I n k Anna was dissing Derek necessarily about the shirt thing, I took it to mean what Brooke mentioned one time about the fact Derek is almost always shirtless in rehearsals/backstage etc, cause he gets hot and is just less so with it off (Lucky anyone who works there)
Oh and I forgot….Leah needs to go. She moves less and she and Tony smirk more every week. Tony and Melissa were bad and pathetic enough but if Leah makes finals ! ?? ! I don’t enjoy watching her or the two of them together but I do enjoy Bill and Snooki and Brant they were making an effort and improving instead of dragging in a famous friend.
Producers played a roll in Derek & Shawn’ s Knight rider theme dance. They could not use anything related to that show. It worked in Derek’s favor. I think it is one of his best dances.
Carolyn, there is a very big difference between telling a pro they can’t use something because they don’t have rights to it, and telling a pro they HAVE to do something.
You can work with the absence of something much easier than being made to work with something. I think the first one enhances creativity, and the second one could inhibit it.
I’m just not seeing the content in Leah and Tony’s Waltz that the Afterbuzz crew saw. It was like a Waltz on Ambien. Slow, hazy and dull, dull, dull.
Maybe someday a Viennese Waltz will actually be waltzed to a classical Waltz piece on the show.
I wonder when the Producers told Derek that he and the other boys would be doing a homage to the actual video by being dressed in sailor uniforms? It sound like maybe a last minute thing to me, which would make it really inexcusable.
I would hate to have a vision and direction for the dance then have the TPTB come up and say “gee we’d kind of like to have a couple of ten foot tall teddy bears and a live monitor lizard up on stage while you dance. Okeydokie?.”
First let me say Susan2 please please don’t give the producers any ideas. If Derek has a song that involves teddy bears and lizards I am coming after you…lol. But, somehow he would make it all work, how to simply have everybody love each no matter their differences…I am hearing a lion king song in my head now. I agree with the fact that Derek rarely takes off his shirt so it is fun to see it. I thought Anna was a little snarky, but I also think she is highly competitive. Most of the pro’s have won dance competitions in some form or fashion so I understand that it irritates the heck out of them that Derek wins a lot, regardless of who his partner is. Some people have the gift to teach, others not so much. I had many teachers in grad school who were very well know in their field, but when it came to teaching others their craft…well not so much. I am sure the same thing is here, many are incredibly good at what they do, but not so much in the teaching arena. I think the same goes for choreography. I think once in awhile, you find a Derek, that is great at dancing, can teach that dance, choreograph to a partner’s strengths and know how to handle a partner emotionally to draw out the very best in their partner. Many could be good at one or two, but rarely will you find someone who is good at all of them. I just think it brings out the “green eyed monster” in those around him.
Second that Court! I love Derek but I don’t always like the things that he did. As a matter of fact, during the dance, I found Val’s ‘shirtlessness’ sexier than Derek’s (I know, OMG!). Opps.. I shouldn’t mention Derek… (or Val) ๐
I don’t like Val and I find his need to be constantly shirtless (especially in the opening) to be rude… and desperate.
I have always felt that the Rumba is a sensual dance of love between two people. Soft and flowing. But having Derek go shirtless took away that story for me and drew all the attention and focus onto Derek himself. I thought it was unnecessary for that style of dance. Derek has 4 MBT’s and an Emmy his dancing speaks for itself.
I enjoyed this Afterbuzz segment. I don’t get their affection for Leah but otherwise I thought all of their commentary and input was pretty much spot on and fair. They call it as they see it. And fingers and toes crossed that their next prediction is accurate and we see Liz leaving the ballroom.
Susan, one of the sailors – don’t remember which one, maybe Henry – said that they didn’t know they were going to be sailors until either right before the show or right before dress rehearsal. Don’t remember which.
Thanks for explaining about the producers’ wanting the boys in sailor suits for A&D’s Rhumba. I found it really hard to believe that Derek had thought that one up because I felt it detracted, not added, to the mood of the dance. At least now I know that Derek didn’t have a brain freeze and that the producers were to blame for what I saw as a nautical faux-pas. It also explained why Derek seemed a tad uncomfortable in that goofy sailor suit, at least from what I could tell. If they were going for a nautical theme, they should’ve put Derek in a Admiral’s costume or something equally sexy, ha ha.
@Heidi it was Sasha (during the popTV video with Henry)
What is really amazing to me is if Len had been judging, he would have probably marked Amber & Derek’s score down because of the extra dancers.
Just caught up to this thread and I have always watched every episode of After Buzz and really enjoy it. I was glad to see @Kristyn Burtt #6 jump in and say how they are always accused of only loving Derek. I have seen plenty of Derek love by all of them on this show and even before they started to talk about Amber and Derek’s dance Suri mentioned that fact. I can’t speak about anything else, but this After Buzz show, but I have heard Anna and all of them say wonderful things about Amber and Derek. I didn’t feel that Anna was dissing Derek and @RaineMayer #25 thank you for mentioning what Brooke had mentioned one time about Derek being shirtless in rehearsals/backstage because he gets hot. I agree lucky anyone who works there. ๐
I enjoyed this After Buzz segment as I do all of them. I don’t get the Leah love because I am not seeing what they see in her at all. I think many of the comments reflect my thinking of both Leah and Tony. I am past ready to see both of them go. This may have been her best dance out of all of them, but that’s not saying much because the judges have totally over scored her the entire season. Her rude remarks may be funny to some of the viewers, but for me they are just rude. I am not a Jlo fan because AI already turned that show into the Jlo show when they had her on and I became sick of her. I don’t need to see her over and over on this show. Off Topic, but hear they are having her back yet again on AI. Sorry if I have offended any of her fans.
I pretty much agreed with the other comments they made except totally agree with @EPmusic #8 Corbin slayed Elizabeth with his cha cha.
I was glad that they mentioned Corbin and what he did with Elizabeth with their little dance together routine. I just want to add he totally showed his support of her and he really reinforced to me why I like him so much. I just find him to be a totally nice guy who shows his support while on the side lines cheering all the cast on, and I love the way he dances. When he dances I can’t take my eyes away from him and that’s the way it should be. I don’t think he gets enough credit for coming from the hip hop world and working hard to break those habits and learning ball room. IMO it can be harder to be trained in a certain dance and retrain then to have no dance experience at all. I think Karina is a wonderful teacher and choreographer who doesn’t get as much credit as she deserves. His footwork might have been a bit off, this particular week, but his lifts were incredible. How many times have we seen blatant mistakes in footwork and it’s just dismissed? I have watched his AR over and over. They mention Tony and his lifts with Tyne, but Corbin’s were stunning imo.
Last, but not least I totally enjoyed Tyne as a guest. I really enjoyed hearing more about her as I was not familiar with her. Guess I’ve been hiding under a rock.
Almost forgot if Leah can’t leave this week then having Liz leave will be okay with me as nothing would make me happier than having Corbin, Amber, Jack and Bill in the finals. Just like everyone else who knows what will happen in this very strange season? All my comments are jmho.