DWTS17 Las Vegas Odds For Week 9 – Do You Agree And Who Is The “Dark Horse”?
The greater the obstacle, the more glory in overcoming it. ~Moliere
Sports Bovada has posted their new odds for Dancing With The Stars Week 9. They continue to put Bill Engvall in last place with 100/1 odds which I don’t understand. He has proven the odds makers wrong every week thus far. Overall though, I think they’ve called it pretty close with an exception to Amber who I think should be in first. Also, Leah should be in last. I agree with their final four too (dance wise). Though how I’d love it if Bill made it to the finals instead of Elizabeth. I also think our “dark horse” might be Jack Osbourne. What do you think? Take a look at the new odds and then let’s see what Heidi and Court think. Be sure to let us know what you think too in comments.
Corbin Bleu 1/1
Amber Riley 11/10
Elizabeth Berkley 7/1
Jack Osbourne 25/1
Leah Remini 75/1
Bill Engvall 100/1
Below are last week’s odds:
Corbin Bleu 6/5
Amber Riley 5/4
Elizabeth Berkley 6/1
Brant Daugherty 16/1
Jack Osbourne 16/1
Leah Rimini 66/1
Bill Engvall 100/1
Heidi: Honestly, looking at those six names it feels like a toss up to me. And I feel like anyone could go home this week, including Corbin and Amber. At the end of the day, though, I expect the odds makers are pretty close. I might switch Leah and Bill. And maybe Jack and Liz – but maybe not. Everything depends on the judges scoring this week, and I think the judges scoring might give a hint as to what they want to see in the semi-finals, OR it will be an indicator of how the votes are actually going. Beats the hell out of me. I still think Corbin is going to win, even if Amber were to get healthy – I don’t see people voting to give Derek another trophy. I think he won last season because he and Kellie kicked ass in the freestyle and because he was robbed in the All Star Season. Unless the Gleeks are a much more massive and a voting power house than I think they are, I don’t see it happening. As someone with a younger audience, she might even be in trouble this week. As to who’s going home – ask me after I see the judges scores. 🙂 Whether you like it or not, they do have a significant impact.
Court: Not a whole lot to add – just hope the hammer drops on Leah so we’re spared the enormous ego trip we’re bound to see from her & Tony, should they make the finale. I think the judges being more critical of her last week is a good sign. Ditto for Liz, although I could see the judges being more likely to overscore her to ensure she sticks around. I think both Jack & Bill have the potential to be dark horses – Jack in terms of skill, and Bill in terms of popularity; but the judges are going to be more likely to back Jack and try to backdoor Bill.
I hope it is leah who goes home this week, cant take much more of her and tony! I still feel corbin and amber are better dancers than liz. Bill is entertaining, but not a dancer. Heidi, why do you feel amber is in trouble this week? She is pulling in the votes. Derek shouldnt be paying the price because he won last season. Yes, im a fan, but i think it should be amber, corbin, and jack. Im not saying amber should win, she earned her way to semi_finals.
Just as long as Leah and Elizabeth go, I would be happy with any of the remaining couples winning. Courtney, you mentioned how big Leah and Tony’s egos would get, well I think Val would be just as bad, if not worse. Neither one of them deserve to be in the finals. One has to go this week, the other next week.
please, please, please, please, please, LET IT BE LEAH!!! Is there a double elimination coming up?
I am afraid Amber will not win because of the freestyle this time. Derek is a genius, but he may not be able to do tricks with her while his back and her knee are injured. And Corbin and Karina will probably have a really intense and energetic freestyle. Most people agree that their solo in the freestyle team dance was the best. I hope Derek and Amber can surprise us!
Heidi, I feel the same.
My gut says it could be Amber, or even Corbin (although, I’m not sure it’s Corbin). As much as I want it to be Leah, I don’t see it coming. I’m afraid it could be Amber. People probably dont want Derek to win again this season. With this new format, everything can happen.
corbin also has a younger audience
younger than amber actually i don’t see corbin win
i ‘m amber fan so i hope she will get that trophy but derek winning a fifth time?
Just re: Courtney’s thoughts on the judges preferring Jack to Bill. I felt sure by last week that TPTB have caught on to the fact that the audience really, really love and enjoy Bill & Emma. I know CAI got it a while back and Bruno just seems to have a personal issue with Bill’s dancing like Len does with Derek except more persistent.
I guess I’m just bummed ’cause your probably right and they will hose Bill hard. Despite the fact that a large number of viewers are seemingly speaking with votes.
Maria, Don’t underestimate Corbin’s audience. I see on Twitter some people actually watching DWTS for the first time because he is on it. And especially with this format, every dance counts. Karina is a very smart pro. And if in fact Corbin has the same base as Zendaya, look where she placed. And Corbin is quite a bit older now, and in fact a dude. Ladies love him.
# machane, if Amber gets to the finale, I believe Derek will find a way to make her shine. 🙂
i didn’t watch last season but zendaya is fun and nice and i think it reflected
corbin i don’t connect with him at all
it just my opinion i don’t find him relatable and his fanbase is a little dated
maybe i’m wrong and he pulls million of votes i don’t know
i don’t think he will win
i agree with heidi everyone could go this week elizabeth corbin amber nobody is safe
i hoped for weeks now that leah will go home and she still here 🙁
@Kaci I personally think Corbin is cute so I’ve been shocked at the comments regarding him at Oh No They Didn’t. Theoretically, he should be their #2 candidate after Amber but they have cooled on both as the season progressed.
Corbin has the only dances, other than Bill’s, that I find at all memorable this season. He has skill and seems to be a genuinely nice guy. But maybe a bit bland? He really only made a strong impression on me in the Jive, the Foxtrot for his sister and the GoT waltz. I think he needs to put more of himself into his performances besides technique. That said, once Bill’s out, Corbin will get my votes.
And machane, I wouldn’t discount Amber & Derek in the freestyle. He IS the best choreographer on DWTS and a part of that is understanding his celebs strengths and working with them. Freestyle has no rules to contend with. Amber’s greatest asset is showing her personality through her performances. He’ll craft something that will show her in the best possible way. I just abhor the hip hop elements he has incorporated into several of their earlier dances and dread their return. Not to my taste.
I didn’t say it was fair, margaret, I said that’s what might happen. As for why she might not make it, I think I made that clear. She has a young fanbase and they aren’t as good at voting as those with older fanbases – see the exits of Brant, Christina and Nicole for some evidence of that. While I tend to think that Amber is getting the votes to get to the Semi’s at least, there is NO way of knowing that. You don’t know for sure she’s “pulling in the votes”.
I doubt their freestyle would cost them a win, machane, because this is Derek we’re talking about. Who would have thought a stripped down contemporary piece would get him the trophy over the ringer last season??? I sure as hell didn’t. Once I saw it I thought they had a good chance, but when I heard about it I sure didn’t.
Remember Jennifer Grey?? She who couldn’t do too many tricks because of her neck?
I don’t think Amber will win, but I don’t think it will be because of a sub par freestyle.
I agree with Heidi – I don’t think Amber will win this season. Derek did just come off of a trophy win, not to mention an Emmy win (much deserved) as well, I don’t think the viewers will hand him another win this season.
And at this point I’m not even 100% convinced that Corbin will win either. I am somewhat confused on how this season may play out.
@SH – “I felt sure by last week that TPTB have caught on to the fact that the audience really, really love and enjoy Bill & Emma. I know CAI got it a while back and Bruno just seems to have a personal issue with Bill’s dancing like Len does with Derek except more persistent.”
I do think TPTB have “Gotten It”… The manner that they have chosen to declare Bill and Emma Safe shows me that they have “Gotten It”. Me personally, I don’t see anything wrong with Bill making the semi-finals whatsoever. Quite frankly, Bill and Emma are the Only couple that is keeping me tuned in this season.
Surprised that they keep putting Bill so low – but he hasn’t dropped this week, which else did except Corbin and Amber (their odds got tighter).
I definitely want the final four to be Amber, Corbin, Jack and Bill. If it’s a three person finals, I’m having trouble deciding which three to put in. I *absolutely* want Amber there, but as far as which two of the three guys I would pick…not sure. Corbin’s the best dancer of the three, obviously, but I think I would would choose Jack and Bill – Bill has so much heart and is so much fun, and I’m really liking Jack (and Cheryl this season, too). As much as I love Karina and like Corbin, I’m not connecting with them quite as much as Bill and Jack and their partners. Plus, it would show the judges and TPTB that we’re on to (and don’t appreciate) their machinations.
As far as who would win – I think ultimately I’m rooting for Amber (even though I *know* it probably won’t happen), but I’d be happy for anyone as long as it isn’t Leah or Elizabeth – and if *either* of them make it to the finals, I will be voting my fingers off for whoever else made it – because the smugness from Tony and Leah or Val would be too, too much to take. It was bad enough when Tony won during the All-Star season. I don’t think I could handle it again.
i actually see bill becoming a contender i don’t think he will leave this week leah will stay even tho i pray she leaves
that’s why i agree with heidi anybody could go home this week corbin and amber included
Let me clarify. I don’t think Amber’s freestyle would be subpar. But Derek couldn’t do the dance he did with Kellie with Amber. Kellie had extreme flexibility and was really slender. I think he would have to try something different, more similar to Ricki’s freestyle, which, if I recall correctly did not have the same impact as other freestyles from Derek. I never meant to offend either Derek or Amber, though. I’m just worried about their injuries.
Heard you the first time, maria.
I really have no idea anymore at this point. For almost every person there is a nagging doubt in the back of my mind.
I for sure thought Leah would be gone by now because of all the negative comments I’ve been reading about her and Tony online but then I have to remind myself that the majority of DWTS fans aren’t online and are probably more Leah’s demographic, so maybe she is pulling in more votes than I think. Elizabeth and Val had a pretty rough week last week so not sure if they’ll have the votes but I think the judges will bump up their scores. Jack and Bill? I just really don’t know with those two. If Jack wasn’t in the real bottom two last week (per Tom) who was??? Ahhhh, I can’t take it!
I agree with Heidi that the scoring this week is very important and indicative of how the rest of the season will play out. I have to wonder if the judges/producers have finally wised up to what the viewers want to see. Both Leah and Elizabeth have been treated very well by the judges, but last week CAI and Bruno weren’t feeling them. I’m interested to see if that trend continues and if Len will continue with his Elizabeth love affair. If he isn’t that complimentary of their first dance, V. Waltz, which is right up his alley, I think they’ll be the ones to get the boot.
I would love to see a four-person finale with Amber, Corbin, Jack and Bill. And either of them winning would be fine for me, for different reasons. Even though my favourite pro will always be Derek.
I like that four person finale, Amber, Corbin, Jack and Bill. While I want Bill to win, I would be okay with any of the guys. I think its a guy’s turn to win.
I’m rooting for Amber. I think if Amber makes it to the final, she will probably have a chance to win. These two next weeks is very important, we will have to vote harder than ever to whoever we root for.
Didn’t ABC release a press release after the phone number debacle that there would be a double elimination or am I making that up? If there is a double elimination then there will only be three people in the final (which I prefer).
I don’t think they’ve ever mentioned a double elimination – I think that’s been speculation, but I could be wrong.
Found it…it was in an article from the TODAY show that discussed a double elimination, and it wasn’t even a real confirmation. It just said: “An ABC rep told TODAY that an upcoming episode will have two couples exiting the ballroom on the same night, but that that double-elimination won’t necessarily happen next week”.
So basically the producers will decide if there is a double elimination or not based on who goes home this week.
@maria, Corbin has the OLTL fans as well. So he doesn’t just have kids voting. Corbin is not like Zendaya. He is 24 years old and most of the HSM fans who interact and talk about Corbin are adults now. As he stated in an interview, his fans grew up with him. So the combination of some of his older HSM fans and OLTL fans could keep him there.
All I’m going to say is don’t doubt the power of Amber’s Glee Cast friends and her management team which is also Bieber’s supporting her. They can be like sheep, deranged hypocritical sheep but sheep none the less. So the young fanbase is supporting her. She also has a ton of friends in the business garnering her an older audience too. Her performance at Black Girls Rock (go watch it!) also got the attention of those that might have been consistently tuning in and voting at least for this week’s elimination at least.
Can they bring in people for these freestyles or is that just an All Star season type thing?
Drew, I don’t think they’ve said if they’re going to “supersize” the freestyles yet or not. They did last season, with Zendaya bringing in all those children.
I don’t watch Glee. So Heidi – Do you think that Glee brings a big fanbase with it?
I have a feeling that the finals will be Corbin, Amber, Leah (ugh!). I think if Leah makes it will drive up interest similar to Bristol in S11 (I believe ratings went up from 20 million in week 9 to 24 million for the finale) I think the TPTB will try to create controversy.
It does, or should. But it’s possibly a younger one. Not one as young as Zendaya’s but still.
# Em
like i said i could be wrong i don’t connect with him but it just my opinion
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Vogue, I hope it is! I could see that helping Amber. The week should definitely be interesting. Thanks for all you all post on here. It’s very interesting and insightful since I’m such at DWTS novice.
P.S. I’m not sure if my first comment read correctly but I meant the glee fandom can be like sheep not the cast.
Amber fans aren’t as young as you guys think they are. She does have older fanbase. More so closer to her age (27).
w/ DWTS it doesn’t really come to if you have old or young fans doe. Week after week. It ends up being the dances that excite the viewers. The personalities of the celebs. One lackluster dance can keep you from getting the votes from the general viewers (which I think are the ones that always are the breaker in the winner each season) moreso than actually “fan supporters.
At this point I think anyone can win and any won can get eliminated.
Along with some of you I’m hoping for a final four of Corbin, Amber, Jack and Bill.
I don’t think Amber will win it. If both she and Derek weren’t injured than maybe. I’ve got to imagine that the constant wear, tear and stress on her injured knee isn’t stabilizing it and could actually be getting progressively worse. It’s a shame that a contestant with such a charismatic performing style could be stymied by an injury.
If Karina can keep her eyes on the prize in a calm manner and really stress quality instead of quantity in her choreography than Corbin can definitely take it. I think he realized he came off a bit bad in last week’s package with the constant rehearsal interruptions. I think he’ll come roaring back to top form Monday night.
If Jack continues to improve than he’s the dark horse for me. Cheryl has the experience and Jack has the heart to get there.
Bill I want to see in the finals because he’s earned it. Of course they all do, but him especially because since week one he’s been seen as the weakest dancer and yet week after week he fights back with charm, laughter and a heartfelt desire to learn and to please.
I would love a Corbin, Amber, Jack and Bill final. Before this season the only one I was familiar with was Amber and that’s because I have watched every episode of Glee. Let me just add I am not a young person at all (although I wish I still were). 🙂
I was not familiar at all with Corbin or Bill and only know the Osborne name because of Sharon and Kelly. I became a huge fan of Corbin because I love to watch him dance and think he is a really nice guy. I think everyone has become a fan of Bill because of the type of guy he is. Him and Emma remind me of Andy and Sharna from last season. I think Bill is a better dancer than Andy was and I also think Bill has a huge following from the country world. I know in the music world country voters are always the strongest voters.
I was very familiar with Leah and liked her until seeing her on DWTS where I ended up not liking her at all. Never heard of Elizabeth before this season and heard Showgirls mentioned. Never watched SBTB. I did a google search of Showgirls and that was the first time I saw Elizabeth. I do belong to another site where Elizabeth is liked by quite a few people who watched SBTB and also some that adore Val and will always vote for whoever he has for a partner. That same site has the attitude that Tony always gets stuck with clunkers and like him as well. Very few of them are Derek fans. Just a few of us are.
I wonder if some of the votes aren’t coming from the fans of the Pros over the stars?
I have no idea what will happen in this strange season, but my wish is that Leah goes first and then Liz. Although I would take Liz first and Leah next. Just as long as they both end up going.
@shamelesshussy, I wouldn’t take ontd site comments seriously. Those are the same posters who rag on this site but if you dare to question their illogical reasons for why Derek is the worst pro, person, ( in their world) to ever live, they resort to name calling. They are not representative of the viewers but like minded viewers who think Anna can do no wrong and Derek does all things just to be famous and proof to the contrary they ignore.
I hope Amber and Derek wins, since Derek is my absolute favorite pro. :)But also I don’t think Amber and Derek have enough chemistry. Their partnership seem kind of off compared to his past partners like Menough (my favorite partner of Derek’s:) for some reason…
I am very, very aware of the peculiarities of the crowd at ONTD. Without even looking, they were rooting for exactly the 2 celebs I expected, Corbin and Amber. I just find it really curious that interest in DWTS on that site has plummeted so quickly and if anything, the remarks are nearly all disparaging now. There’s almost no one even staining those 2 anymore.
Because the are about the right age and interested in pop culture, I wonder if that is the only corner of fandom where interest in these two might be dying and voters checking out. Hard to figure. Young – to youngish crowds are generally the ones more likely to actively stan and vote in contests plus the ones who will power vote. BUT I wouldn’t think DWTS is high on their radar and do they lose interest before the end in a season that’s kind of lackluster. VS. the steady watches season after season DWTS viewer/voter. Many, many of them also have pretty specific biases including for/against specific pros.
I agree Heidi, unfortunately I don’t think Derek will win as his haters will go for the ‘anyone but Derek’ vote in the final.
What’s “ONTD”?
ohnotheydidn’t.livejournal.com a gossip site with mob mentality and a taste for the vicious. They do however support or at least tolerate certain acceptable celebrities.
Oh, Thank you.
I’ll take a pass on checking that site out. I learned a long time ago that those types of sites are volatile and not in my best interest. I will stick to my PURE… Thank you very much.
I think all the dancers have been over rated at times and some of the judges comments don’t make sense. However,Amber has more of a fan base than most here give her credit for. Its not just Gleeks, but plus sized women from 10 to 100 who are thrilled to have someone their size to root for who has a real chance of winning because she can actually dance. Derek is a great choreographer and if he has earned a fifth trophy then, so be it.