Dancing with the Stars Season 18, Week 6 – Dancing by the Numbers!
Well, it’s Candace’s time in the hot seat, with Drew leaving us last week. Lucky for her, her road isn’t nearly as rough as Drew’s was. Who’s going to be eliminated it a bit more up in the air.
Meryl, of course, is still pretty insulated at the top of the leader board – she did a great dance and she shouldn’t have any problems this week. Even though there are risks being pretty consistently at the top too. Four out of six weeks, Meryl has been at the top of the leaderboard – sometimes it has been earned and other times – not so much. Thing is, she’s been up there all by herself most of the time when I feel like others have danced just as well (Charlie), with harder choreography. So, the question is – how much complacency is in her fanbase?? I’m sure Maks’ fans are anything but complacent at this point – but the pros fanbase won’t get you the win. Obviously.
There are five weeks of dancing left – I doubt they will start underscoring Meryl, but the question is, will they start giving Charlie the scores he deserves? If they are going to do that, it’s time for them to start the growth arc. If they are determined for Meryl to win…they won’t start scoring Charlie appropriately. I’m quite curious to see what happens. I called Charlie for the win before the season even started – but my prediction kinda hinges on him getting scored appropriately. He sure hasn’t been until now. If Meryl were dancing with Derek, I’m certain she would probably win. I don’t think it’s a sure thing with Maks. I still think Charlie has a real shot.
Another big question I have – why is NeNe getting so much love from the judges?? For all the whining and complaining I see about Amy and her scores, girlfriend can seriously dance AND Derek is giving her actual dances that resemble (strongly) the style they’re supposed to be. Some people still want her marked down for some reason (I have theories, fear being a large component). But the same cannot be said for NeNe. NeNe is putting on good performances (most of the time) but her dances have only been in the stated style about half the time – yet no one has said a word, she’s getting 9s and people bitch about Amy. It’s rather mind boggling. I hate to break it to you folks who are scared of Amy and Derek – when NeNe is getting high scores, it’s MORE likely that your favorite will go home in a shocking elimination. There is not a huge spread between the dancers when EVERYONE is doing pretty well, score wise. Some of you focus on Amy – you should be worried as much or MORE about NeNe. There is a method to their madness, after all. A reason why she’s getting good scores. You better hope they wise up fast. If she’s hitting some metric of popularity which results in overscoring so she sticks around – she’s the one you should be scared of. See Leah Remini staying longer than Christina and Liz. Same thing – over scoring of Leah put her in easy striking distance of Liz. Combine the likely-very-popular Candace at the bottom with the overscored NeNe above her…well, it could get interesting.
I think next week will be the week of the “shocking” elimination though – these team dances have the potential to really screw things up. We’ll see. But I skip ahead. Let’s take a look at this weeks scores:
Once again, four points between Meryl and Charlie – I don’t get it. If not for the bobble in the middle, Amy would have been tied with Meryl, I’m sure. That was a killer jive – but Charlie’s dance was also excellent. I’ve rewatched it and I don’t get why he’s four points down from Meryl…or even two points down from Amy. It mystifies me. I wonder if Meryl getting more dramatic dances, which Charlie’s have largely been lighter in mood is what has been giving her an edge over him. If it’s dark and dramatic is must be much harder than the lighter dance that Charlie makes look easy?? I dunno, I just hope this is the week that it starts going in the other direction.
Anyway, Candace is at the bottom and has been the last one called safe twice now – this is not a good sign, as you know if you read my “Jeopardy Theory” post from a few weeks back. A lot of the time, if you are the last one to be called safe, your days are number. Cody was in jeopardy back in week two and he’s now gone – can Candace be long for the DWTS world? Let’s take a look at what she needs.
This will be a real test of her popularity, as she only needs about 3,600 more votes per million votes cast to hang in there over NeNe. That is NOT a lot. Not at all. She’s fortunate that NeNe only got one 9 this past week – Candace has a real shot.
But what else could happen?? Well, if Candace is getting more votes than NeNe, is she also getting more votes than James? We saw what happened with Cody – are James’ fans similarly bad at voting? Candace only needs 10.6k votes per million votes cast to drop James in the bottom two with NeNe. If Candace is called safe early, be worried for James. Be really worried for James, because as you can see, NeNe only needs about 7,100 votes per million votes cast for James to go home while NeNe and Candace are both safe. Yikes.
For James to be safe, he needs for Candace to NOT get the 10,600 votes per million votes cast and he needs NeNe to NOT get the 7,100 votes per million votes cast. It’s really important that one of the above not happen, because James doesn’t have much shelter by those above him. He only needs roughly 3,500 votes to pass either Danica or Charlie – he might be getting the votes to beat Danica, but I doubt very much that he is getting the votes to beat Charlie.
If James is getting the votes to beat Danica, that likely means that she would be in the bottom three with Candace and NeNe because I doubt that she is getting the votes to beat either Amy (7k) or Meryl (14k). Since it’s very possible that James is beating Danica, putting her in that hypothetical bottom three, that means that it’s likely either Candace or NeNe is going home because they need too many votes (I think) to get past her. Candace would have to get more than 14,000 votes per million votes cast, and NeNe would have to get more than 10k votes per million votes cast. I think that Danica and Candace have similar fanbases which means Candace wouldn’t be able to make up the difference. This makes NeNe the wild card.
Based on all my hypotheses above, I think it comes down to Candace and NeNe. Who stays and who goes? It’s a toss up. I’ve said NeNe the last two weeks, although Drew was my second choice last week. Because NeNe has never been in jeopardy and Candace has, I’m going to guess that Candace’s time has run out. NeNe would be my second choice with James as a distant third. I have no real idea how Meryl, Charlie and Amy are doing in terms of votes, but I’m guessing they are safe, this week at least.
Finally….I saw several people questioning whether they would use the eliminated person’s scores in the calculating of who goes home. I think they do, because the points were handed out – so they would use them. But in case you were wondering what impact it would have if those points weren’t used, the ranking is obviously the same, the margins just get a bit wider. See below and compare to table two. It widens the margin by 500 votes at the lower end, and by a little more than 2,000 votes at the upper end. Not a huge deal, for those at the bottom of the leader board.
Thanks! I always look forward to the comments that you give with your numbers.
Fantastic post as usual! 🙂 I somehow feel that Candace is going to be saved by the fan vote. I just think that her fan base is really strong and they’re voting. I’m hoping that this is Nene’s week to go, but you never know with the way tptb are playing it…
Regarding why NeNe is getting so much love from the judges, I have a theory. I think that they may well be a little afraid of riling her up. I mean, I’ve never seen any of the Housewives shows, but I know that tables do get overturned, and by females considerably smaller than NeNe (well, that actually includes just about everyone). For sure she could take on the judges’ table, and wouldn’t that be a scene! I can just see her picking Bruno up by the scruff of his neck and tossing him like a rag doll (he actually might quite enjoy that, depending, of course on how he lands, and on whom). Len would scamper out of the room yelling, “Too much frippery!” while CarrieAnn would immediately fall off her chair and for once, finally, just lie there and play dead. Anyway, it’s just a theory. Especially since if they play their cards right they might wind up with a pair of Christian Louboutin shoes like Tony did, I don’t think they’re going to be delivering any undesirable critiques or scores. I do, however, think that NeNe’s AT is not going to be very good, so someone might say, “Oh, to hell with the shoes. I’ve got to call it like it is.” We live in hope.
Oh I love this scenario but can you tell Nene to start with Carrie Ann. I just can not take her anymore.
PH, Great analysis as always, and thanks for adding the bit about what difference it makes if the eliminated couple’s score is taken out of the calculation.
Have my fingers crossed that Candace’s fans have rallied to save her and we finally get rid of NeNe. NeNe and Tony add zero value to the show for me, and while I wasn’t sure how I’d respond to Candace initially, I’ve come to really appreciate her journey and her partnership with Mark.
I also hope this is the turning point for Charlie and Sharna and the judges start giving him the scores he’s entitled to based on what he’s doing on the dance floor.
The only reason anyone should be afraid of Amy is if their favorite can’t dance as well as she can. Amy is earning her place on the leaderboard by dancing extremely well. Contrast that to NeNe and Danica who (in my opinion) are getting propped up by extremely generous scores from the Stooges and the endless parade of guest judges.
I feel like Candace and NeNe will be saved from their fan votes as well. I think NeNe’s entertaining but I’m not a big fan but she and Candace seem to have quite the devoted fan base between the Christian (and she’s just a great gal, imo) demo and NeNe’s housewives fans.
I keep thinking James, who has lost his initial aw factor for me (I still like him but the new car smell has worn off for me) and blended into the background or Danica may be the shocking elimination.
Maybe Nene is good for the drama which according to the TPTB makes for good television it seems???? What other reason could there be to keep her around? I don’t think any of the other couples are likely to show attitude like Nene does. Besides dancing, I think every single one needs to ask themselves what they bring to the table for increasing viewership. In no particular order, this is how I feel…
Nene-Drama
James & Charlie- Cute guys
Meryl- Showmance
Amy- Overcoming huge challenges every week with a compelling story
Danica- Darling from a popular show
Candace- Darling from a popular show and now promoting her beliefs(adding a little bit of drama)
With just that, it would seem Danica would be in jeopardy other than the recent injury development which could go both ways. The drama will probably get old and Nene will go in a week or two.
@ Kate you just may be right!
It’s a shame if the show has really come to this–a fix for drama.
Isn’t that what Bravo is for with it’s many housewives? Guilty of watching them all but that’s what I watch them for not what I tune into DWTS for. NeNe’s drama gets old vast not even sure if it’s drama she brings more than just a plain nasty attitude.
I use lots of votes…..all season, I have divided them up. But not this past week. I was so offended with Charlie’s score that I gave him all my votes. I’m saying this in regards to Candace. I have given her some of my votes every week until this week. So if there were a lot of people out there like me, that might not bode well for Candace. I hate it. I wasn’t really thinking it all through on Monday. I like Charlie. What a good guy and I’m upset for him with the scores he has been getting. I hope Candace sticks around!!!
I enjoyed the post, but just one thing- I think Nene has been in jeopardy once- the night she did her Disney dance.
I love Charlie but I think his scores have been on point. I think others have been over scored (Nene, James, Danica) which makes him seem like he has been under scored. Where do you think he should have been scored higher? Last week was a great dance, but I think his scored were on point. Even listen to other pros about last weeks dance, they thought it was great but not 10 worthy compared to Meryl’s. Maybe choreography seemed harder, but it was not as sharp and clean. His Mary Poppins would have been all 10s if he didn’t drop the prop. The miscue despite the hard choreography docked him the point. Fair or not, if that was Meryl you would say she should not get a perfect score had she made a mistake. I think Amy is great, love her, her story, and her and Derek. I get where people say she is over scored just because as a viewer when a judge says I should take a point off, but I won’t, it makes viewers shake their head. Not her fault at all, just makes the judging confusing and inconsistent. At the end of the day it’s a reality tv show. They will manipulate what they want. I think it’s great to see the growth, partnerships, and dancing I wish I could pull off. We all have our opinions and pros and celebs we like, but that’s what it is all about. We all connect to people for different reasons. At the end of the day I just give props to the awesome choreography and the dancing we get to see each Monday.
So excellent again Heidi! I so look forward to these posts!! And I’m with you…Candace or NeNe to go home!!
I agree Emma. I feel the same way. The others to me seem overscored a bit, making that difference that much more jarring (especially on Disney night goodness gracious).
Charlie has been fantastic, but I feel like he hasn’t yet provided that wow factor in full force – in terms of either complex choreography executed absolutely perfectly (Mary Poppins dance was good, but the cane drop…), emotional impact (has to inspire intense feeling in the judges), or/and simply impressing the judges so much for whatever reason (Amy overcoming her impediments to produce an amazing jive, thus getting 2 10s despite having errors). The judges aren’t going to nitpick and replay for technique like in ice dancing judging. They’re judging based on impression about technique and performance quality since they only have a couple of short minutes.
I’ve been impressed with Charlie, but personally his dances have not yet been the ones I’ll watch over and over again. I think that is what Carrie Ann mentioned the judges are hoping to see from Charlie, and I can understand. Hope this week changes things for him though!
So – according to some, it doesn’t matter how well a dance is performed if it doesn’t have the “it” factor – it doesn’t matter how well the choreography fits the music –the footwork, the timing, the synchro – that all those “compliments” thrown Charlie’s way Monday were just “hot air”, why didn’t they specifically state to him he still isn’t performing to expectations and to his pro that she isn’t meeting their expectations in her choreo
Now if somebody can explain to me what the “it” factor is (because I’m figuring it must be universal, it certainly couldn’t just be something that appeals to individuals) I mean for those that feel his performance doesn’t merit repeat watching, what about those that feel it does..Again if they’re over scoring some, shouldn’t they be over scoring all, if they’re legitimately scoring their convictions and the angle from their view why are so many of the scores for different individuals screwy–no they do not have monitors, and it is definite there are areas of the dance floor that are not visible from the judges table
and if you depend on the tv, the camera work sucks – you need to see head to floor in order to really give a proper critique. So my main problem is this isn’t an occasional discrepancy but something occurring multiple times during a show and week to week.
Consistency is the rule – you either high ball everyone or you low ball every one or you do it infrequently so it doesn’t stick out like a bull sitting in the middle of the judging table! So now storyboard or no storyboard I’m back to being pissed again (maybe I have no right since I am a newbie & don’t have the credentials of watching) but integrity, consistency, constructive criticism has to go along with the entertainment factor to maintain a healthy demographic audience. I know it’s “only” a tv reality show, and I am enjoying the programming, but the judges are driving me nutso (maybe I should take the dog for a walk around the block when I start throwing the popcorn at the tv).
I have a question, and it should be fairly easy for the journalists whose beat is TV to answer: Game shows are monitored and regulated by each network’s Standards and Practices division, which was implemented after the quiz-show scandals of the 1950s to ensure transparency. What about DWTS? I understand the way this works, at least in theory: The percentage of total judges’ points awarded to each couple is added to the percentage of total votes cast by the voters.
For example: Meryl received 14.18% of the judges’ points, so 14.18 is added to whatever percentage of total votes from the public went to her. But should Drew’s points even figure in? I would say no.
But my point comes back to Standards & Practices and transparency. Why not just share the vote totals and percentages with the viewers so that nobody can gripe?
If fear of getting her riled up is cause for giving NeNe high scores, the judges are being ridiculous. But LOL to your scenario, Susan. 🙂
Super LOL to James’ “new car smell” wearing off. 🙂
Emma, I think that Charlie should have gotten at least one more point on Disney night. At least. That dance was difficult and perfectly executed except for one dropped cane. A dropped cane should NOT equate to losing three points any more than one bobble in an other wise perfect and very difficult jive for Amy. I think losing two points for Amy is fine – by that same token, Charlie shouldn’t have lost 3. This is where the scoring gets tricky. The judges don’t seem to recognize very difficult choreography a lot of the time. If they were, Charlie would be ahead of Meryl.
Bridget, jeopardy isn’t the biggest thing, being the last one called safe IS. When there are three people in jeopardy, it’s much more likely that the first one called safe in the group is okay. Candace was last to be called safe twice.
By the way, Emma – you have no idea what I would say, so don’t put words in my mouth.
@Ken McManus
I don’t know but I would imagine DWTS doesn’t fall under the Standards and Practices rules because although there are judges and public votes, I don’t consider it a game show. The contestants (celebrities) win a tacky mirror ball trophy, not cash. The Emmy’s classify the show as a reality show as Tom Bergeron won an Emmy for outstanding reality host for DWTS. Which means the TPTB can manipulate whatever they want like most reality shows do. Drats!
But I do think the voting has to be legit, Ashley, for a variety of reasons – not the least of which is that they would really lose any cred if they didn’t count them.
PH – If that switch up ‘twitter voting by fans’ bs is true then they have lost a lot of credibility. I wish they could be investigated because I’m much more cynical after that shady business. Really ruins the whole show for me if they can’t be trusted when dealing with the public they are duping.
Thank you for the numbers and analyses, Princess Heidi! It sure is easier to understand when there are fewer couples. I think Candace can cover the spread between her and NeNe. If that happens, then I’d be glad because I prefer her to stay around longer than NeNe. I hope her fans were spurred to vote hard for her.
The scenario you presented for James looks worrisome. He’s the last celeb I’d think of as a candidate for shocking elimination, given that he’s had very good dances, except for last week. Quickstep is not his dance. Of course, his fan votes matter a lot too and I’d like to think they are voting for him. Well, I can be very naive when it comes to this show, LOL!
As for Charlie not getting that much love from the judges compared to other celebs, namely NeNe, I sure hope things will be better for him this Monday. I really expected for him to get a 40 for his Cha Cha, or at least two 10s and was confused when he didn’t. I look forward to next week’s numbers post.
To my mind the biggest difference between a game show and DWTS is that on a game show the contestants are not paid for their performance. My guess is that the contract the celebs sign is loaded with waivers which leave TPTB a very free hand in terms of how they construct the show. It may also be that their responsibilities regarding twitter voting are different from their responsibilities regarding online and phone voting. It’s the ride the pros and celebs have signed up to take. The question is whether you want to take the ride with them, warts and all.
Having never seen either full house or any house wife show so not knowing either previously (yeah, I live under a rock), to me Nene is more fun to watch dance than Candace. I like Mark significantly more than I like Tony but personally I’d rather see Nene outlast Candace when I just think about who I want to see dance.
According to wetpaint this season there will be just 10 weeks not 11 like last season , so I think there are just four weeks of dancing left
PH – I have to go back and ready the “in jeopardy” theory post but what do you think when Tom says the “not necessarily the bottom 2” phrase? He’s said that every time Candace has been up there with the contestant eliminated. I guess in theory that could just mean that she’s in the bottom three and and she’s only beating two people in votes/scores; the celeb eliminated and the other celeb in the bottom 2.
I still think Nene is going this week though. I had hope that Candace’s votes might push her into the semis if she could get her scores up some but I’m beginning to think the quarterfinals might be the end of the line for her…that’s for next’s week “Dancing by the Numbers” though!
Heidi, I apologize but my comments when I said “you” were not aimed at you personally. I was generalizing my overall feeling that when it comes to Meryl people jump all over her if she has one mistake and would be calling her out. I would not single you our nor try and put words in your mouth, it was a general statement from how I feel people have been reacting. I will not make any other comments regarding Meryl here as I feel it is a sore subject.
I think that’s the case also, Susan – that the twitter voting isn’t as restrictive as online voting. And I also do think that the producers can construct and manipulate the show how they see fit – but I don’t think they can go so far as to rig the actual outcome. I think The Voice contracts leaks implied they could throw out votes, correct? Well, DWTS has already done that because the voting was found to be broken in more than half of the country – a contract like the one for the Voice would prevent anyone from crying foul over that. I don’t think it means that they throw out votes to fix the outcome. For The Voice in particular, there is no reason to do that – the make money (serious money) by ALL of the contestants selling on iTunes and doing well after the show. I don’t see a reason for them to actually dictate who wins.
The same goes for DWTS – they wanted Maks back this season (drinking the fans koolaide thinking the ratings would go up or just thinking Derek was gone?) so they said they would “guarantee” his win? They might have said that, and they gave him Meryl to increase his odds, but I don’t believe for one minute that they are fixing it for him to win. Why would they?? To make him happy? Why do they care about that?? They have given him the best possible dancer one can get on this show – never been a bigger ringer, actually – why would they take the extra step and fix it?? Especially when it makes a better “story” if she doesn’t end up winning?? Maks and his fans can certainly never logically say ever again that they didn’t give him the best possible chance (not that they haven’t before, but you know those illogical folks). While they have motive to make sure that certain people go farther in the competition, for sure, they have no reason to fix the final outcome. Do I think they “suggest” to the judges who gets higher scores? Sure. But I don’t think they mess with the votes unless they have to (ie. the Kellie versus Zendaya – no choice there, THAT would have been a very flawed outcome otherwise). As for not winning money – well, there IS money involved. You get paid more the longer you stay in the competition. The bucks increase towards the end. I believe the Pros even get bonuses if they make it to the end and if they win. So, YES, there actually is money involved, which is also why I think they’re much more careful with the results.
To put it another way – does anyone REALLY believe they would fix it so that Derek would win FIVE times?? Anyone who’s not an idiot, that is? 🙂 What reason do they have to do that?
I’m hoping Candace has one more week left in her. I would like to see her staying longer than Danica, but barring a shock tomorrow, I don’t think that will happen.
NeNe needs to go! Her dances are the same body shaking every week and it never has the content of the dance it’s supposed to be. And like Zendaya, it bothers me a lot that she’s never in heels. Tony is his usual dull self. I’ve said it in a previous post, they’ve worn out their welcome and it’s time for them to leave.
Well, there you go again, Emma. “I will not make any other comments regarding Meryl here as I feel it is a sore subject” – you really haven’t been reading that carefully if you believe that. We have discussions that are not always positive about various people. If you can’t handle disagreement, then you’re right – you’re probably better off not posting.
I suggest you go back and read the jeopardy post, DLT. I cover it pretty thoroughly. I don’t have the energy to regurgitate it here. I meant to add a link to that post and forgot. I suppose I could do that right now…
Thanks for this post, PH! I’ve said a few times that these are my favorite posts – I’m pretty sure that these posts are how I found this site!
The margin comparison with and without Drew’s scores is very interesting. I like how even the margins are on the bottom table 🙂 – uneven decimals are the death of me in math! Here’s a related question: what were the margins for the S8 finale? I know that the percent difference between Shawn and Gilles was less than one percent, but what did that mean in terms of margins?
One thing that I was thinking about over the week was the trio dances. (Do we know if they are even happening?). If the trios happen next week, we could be set up for something unprecedented on the show depending on who goes home next week.
If a male star goes home, there will be one female pro that still has her star and 5 male pros, leaving only 3 non-paired guys. That means that two female stars would have to dance with female pros. That has never happened in trio week – only 3 stars have danced with a pro the same gender in trio week: William, Roshon, and Apollo in S15.
In terms of the likelihood of that happening? I think Charlie is safer than we think. TPTB, IMO, want both Meryl and Charlie in the finale. If they can afford to score Charlie that low and still keep him in, he must be getting a good amount or votes. On the other hand, I think they are over scoring Meryl to keep her in.
James worries me. I am too young to have seen any Housewives shows (maturity issues) or Full House (actually, I may have seen one episode once, but I don’t remember Candace – just the Olsen twins), so I can’t say anything about what they do, but if both fanbases are strong, they could knock out James. And I would most rather se NeNe go home, but I would rather see either go home before James. I think that James might have picked up some voters from Cody’s fans – girls love a cute boy, especially one who danced to Let It Go – so I hope that can carry him. But that then puts Danica and Charlie in jeopardy….
Hmm. If James, NeNe, and Candace’s fanbases all can be strong enough to not eliminate them, Danica might go home naturally….
I usually suck at these things, but I’m going to guess NeNe or James will go home. Candace has a huge fan base, although she seems to have alienated some of them since the Fox interview, but I still think the conservative vote will keep her in, kind of like Bristol Palin.
To answer this question:
“We saw what happened with Cody – are James’ fans similarly bad at voting?”
I would say, from looking at actual tweets being posted, that James’ fans are MUCH more motivated.
RubyRed (#14) Nice rebuttal to those who say Charlie’s scores are on target and his *problem* is he lacks the “it” factor for them.
I think we’re all entitled to get our dander up when we feel our favorites aren’t getting their due. However, after I complain, I take action. Now get busy setting up your ABC online voting account so you’re ready to go on Monday. 😛 If you don’t want to mess with that, I definitely encourage you to pick up the phone and show your guy some love that way. 😉
I’m actually a little concerned for James-last week I gave both him and Charlie my votes but tipped them in favor of Charlie because the scoring (Charlie not getting any 10s) annoyed me so much. Now I’m regretting that decision…
Heidi-what are your thoughts on the fact that because of all the guest judges this season, all the dances are out of 40 instead of 30 meaning more points handed out and smaller margins…has that been a game changer at all? Would we be seeing a different story with the numbers at if they just stuck with 3 judges all season? Thanks-hope my question makes sense 🙂
I posted this before, BTW, but I think it’s worth mentioning again: if TPTB really do want Maks to get the MBT, I think they have a problem on their hands. Now I admit this is only a theory with little hard evidence, but I believe that the only way that Meryl can win is if BOTH Charlie AND James make it to the finals.
The basic problem is that if you eliminate either of them—especially James—I believe the lion’s share of their votes will go to the other. And I have a hard time seeing Charlie, Meryl, plus two of Danica/Candace/Amy/NeNe resulting in anything other than a win for Charlie. I think Meryl’s best chance of winning is if it’s her, Charlie, James, and Amy, which would best split the “eye candy” vote.
(The same goes for Danica, but I think her chances are lower than Meryl’s.)
[FWIW, my rooting interests go (although it’s fairly close): (1) James (not an athlete, not a ringer), (2) Amy (athlete, but definitely not a ringer), and (3) Charlie (yes, he’s an athlete and a ringer, but he’s really working hard).]
Trying to gauge some of the fanbases,as I know twitter is not one that equates to votes. It’s been mentioned a few times that Candance has a huge fan base. Is this because of the Christian demographic, or typical demographic who watches the show or…..?? I honestly, have not followed, heard much about her, or even thought of her for that matter until DWTS. I mean her brother pops up every now and again….
@Sam very good points! I forsee an elimination of James results in HUGE shift of votes going to Charlie. For me personally he is my #2 just trying so hard and so much fun to watch. However, Amy is AMAZING too!
Sam I might agree except for the showmance angle. The vast majority of support I am seeing, at least on FB, is for Meryl and Maks as a romantic couple. I firmly believe that was the guarantee afforded to Maks. If you follow the program’s FB, you can see they are putting it front and center several times a day.
Sam, you aren’t taking into account that Meryl and Charlie share a lot figure skating fans who are splitting their support between them. If Charlie gets eliminated before the finals, Meryl will pick up a lot of his votes.
@Kim I think if James goes home a majority of his fanbase just won’t vote at all anymore. A lot of them are very young and the rest of the celebs hold absolutely no interest for them at all.
This is one of those areas that I just smile and nod and agree with whatever the number nerds tell me. (After 1 abstract algebra class in college I decided I never again needed to know WHY formulas and theory work, I’ll just accept that someone MUCH smarter than myself has figured all of that out. lol)
I’m hoping like heck (and using my votes to try and further the cause) that Charlie makes the finale. It seems this week was a media blitz week for a few of the celebs with the seemingly obligatory “injury report” story getting it’s play as well. (Am I imagining that almost every season has at least one celeb with an injury that “could affect his/her ability to perform” story?) It worries me just a bit that Meryl & Charlie are out of the LA media limelight (in Pittsburgh and Detroit this week) and so aren’t getting quite the exposure as some of the others. (I don’t worry so much about Meryl because of her scores but I’m a bit of a mother hen in worrying about Charlie).
And maybe I’m worrying for nothing and the whole thing IS following some pre-planned producers script and they want the Olympic “Golden Couple” in the finale against each other. Since I haven’t been following the show religiously since the beginning, I haven’t really been exposed to what could be seen as “producer manipulations” or “puppet-master string pulling” over the years, so I can’t speak with any sort of authority on that subject.
I’ve had issues with the scoring from almost day one but have no desire to make myself crazy by dwelling on it anymore. I do believe it would be a complete heartbreaker to see Nene outlast James or Danica (altho I just can’t connect with Danica & she fades into the background for me as soon as she finishes dancing). I, personally, prefer to see the really good dancers in the finale.
So, I guess I will continue to read the “numbers posts,” have the charts blur in front of my eyes (is it just my computer (or my aging eyes) or is the font on those charts getting tinier and tinier? lol) and then hold my breath for each remaining elimination night.
@Allie we each have our theories.
@Kim
“Trying to gauge some of the fanbases,as I know twitter is not one that equates to votes. It’s been mentioned a few times that Candance has a huge fan base. Is this because of the Christian demographic, or typical demographic who watches the show or…..??
I think it’s both for Candace. That’s why I worry for James because the average DWTS watcher and voter tends to middle-aged women. I’m too old to know who James is or his music nor did I know Cody but if Cody’s yungins’ weren’t voting then I don’t see James getting too much farther. Granted, James is a much better dancer and cares to be on the show but time will tell. I think Danica falls in the same category except she is closer herself to the demo that watches the show and I think Val is more popular than Peta. Who knows, we’ll soon see.
@Allie:
Here’s the thing. Each voter has *two* sources of support: their “core viewer” fan base, and their “personal” fan base.
The former represents the support they’re getting from people who watch the show on a regular basis, and will vote no matter who’s on the show. The “personal” fan base refers to the people that come in and intend to vote solely for that one person. [FWIW, I suspect that James has the largest personal fan base of any remaining contestant; while Charlie and Meryl do have lots of fans, I think a large fraction of them are in fact core viewers of the show to begin with.]
I agree with you that James’ personal fan base will likely leave if he is eliminated, but what happens to his core viewer base? Those are the votes I think will move over to Charlie.
Ashley L #43, I think that the core viewers are voting more and more for James as he goes on. The way that he was so caring to Hannah over Disney week would certainly sway me to his side! He shows a genuine interest in staying on the show, unlike Cody, who didn’t seem to show that interest.
I think Nene is sticking around because the average viewer doesn’t know nor cares about whether she is technical enough. She is what the show is about. A non dancer getting out there and performing. She’s entertaining. Drama? Very little. That one blow up and afterwards a very emotional person wanting forgiveness from her partner. Tony and Nene know they aren’t at the same skill level, but they are having fun and enjoying each other’s company. When they do media, it’s fun, light, refreshing. People like that. They vote for that. A great dancer will win. For now, why not keep a personality around for a spell.
I don’t think a person like Nene should have ever been on the show in the first place and she darn sure shouldn’t still be on there. Watching her stomp around the stage is horrible. Strippers with a rap sheet just do not interest me.
And if the judges are afraid of her, that reminds me of Kirstie. They never scored her like they should have either. I always thought they were scared of the Scientologists. Neither woman can dance and they have both outlived their welcome.
@ Ashley thanks for the info. I too worry for James. The disney stars have done well so maybe maybe instead of comparing him to Cody maybe the fact that he is a NICK star he could follow the patterns of folks like Zendaya, Kyle Massey and Chelsea Kane. Cody has a single platform which may account for some of difference we saw between his success and those of the past Disney type stars.
As far as the showmance? Shippers are people who live their lives vicariously through others. Personally I would think Maks would want a win based on great dances and entertainment. Not because a bunch of women think it’s cute. But I guess a win is a win. I’m lost at the romance angle myself because I just don’t see it. I see great admiration and respect. I see emotional bonding but romance? Manufactured.
How much does “salvage” voting come into play? If someone is given bad scores this week, would people work towards saving them? e.g. Danica over Candace if Danica is injured but can still dance. (Why do I want to type Candance for Candace???)
I’m sure there are voters who don’t
didn’t finish my thoughts…
I’m sure there are voters who don’t follow anyone on twitter or aren’t on Facebook or aren’t always refreshing youtube videos. So many unknowns!!!
NeNe has a rap sheet too?
@Meghan share many of the same views-show being about a celeb going out there and performing…what about those celebs that go out there and perform and grow? They get lost too with all the other hype. I guess no matter who wins it will be someone that has been entertaining and done a good job at dancing whether it been in their history or not.
Nope, try again Abby – this time WITHOUT attacking other posters.
@Kim
Yes but the only people I can compare James to are those on his season because if I compare him to Kyle, Zendaya or Chelsea then I have to look back at who those three were going up against and what particular dynamic those celebs possessed (who there pro is, age, personality, “it” factor) and that may not apply to James’ class this year.
I have James and Danica in the same boat as far as both are very good dancers imo, both seem like nice, lovely people but then they just blend for me. So then I have to separate them by the likability and talent of their pro and the celebs age and gender. It could go either way which of them goes overboard first but it just seems to be proven over and over that the kids don’t vote.
But who knows. Watch, in the end NeNe passes them both. I would die! But so far NeNe staying in even past Candace wouldn’t surprise me because she is fun and entertaining to watch, imo. I just think if there is a ‘shocking’ elimination it could only be James.
Excited for tomorrow,,,,:)
Aviva, I didn’t do the numbers back then. Less than one percent difference between Gilles and Shawn has to mean less than one percent difference between the number of votes, because they were tied in judges scores on the last night. We have no idea what that number is, because we never find out how many votes were cast.
As for the Trios – I’m not sure what you’re getting at or why that’s a problem.
As for James and Cody’s fans – you are a girl, right? 🙂 If their boy Cody couldn’t win, do you REALLY think his fans would vote for who they see as his biggest competition?? I don’t.
PH #55, re Trios, I don’t think I was getting at anything. I don’t think it will be so much of a problem per se, it would just be unprecedented and possibly take focus away from the female star during her dance.’
Yes, I am a girl, but I don’t really get my self involved with the whole drama/fangirling over cute singing boys thing. (I’d rather fangirl over David Tennant myself.) I think there are PLENTY of girls who will vote for any cute teenage boy, regardless of whether they are competing. The rabid fangirls are the ones who won’t.
Impossible to tell, LMK, without knowing how the votes are falling.
I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if Nene lasted longer than Candance and James. Again, she is the last one on the show with NO experience. Never underestimate the under dog vote.
@ Megan Candance has dance experience? I would say NeNe’s exotic dancer skills are same as James boy band choreography. There are still 3 in that category
Again, you all are confusing showmances with shipping. They are two different things. I don’t think Meryl and Maks have actually been having a “romance for the show” (the ACTUAL definition), as much as their fans are shipping them like crazy. Both can happen, but I don’t think they are in this case.
Huh, Megan? Candace doesn’t have experience, neither does Amy. How can NeNe be the last one with no experience?
Princess Nene is a reality show person. She’s not a actor or performer. She’s not a athlete. She’s never gone before a live audience and entertained. That’s what I mean by NO experience.
Sorry, but I don’t find NeNe either fun or entertaining to watch. To my eye, she has not done a single particular dance. I was floored when the Afterbuzz folks said there was enough actual Salsa in her routine. She is big, and loud (enough with the screeching), and more or less dares anyone to try to teach her anything. About putting NeNe by herself front and center in the team dance — I don’t think they had much choice. To have her dancing alongside PETA and Sharna would highlight how ridiculous she is. Idk, maybe if I had a naturally overbearing size I’d become a bully too, but that’s how I see her. Tony mentioning the Christian Louboutin shoes she got him absolutely nauseated me. The fact that her hubby is always there fawning over her (including during the dances!) I find obnoxious. I don’t find any of it actually about the dances. I really want her gone.
Nene exotic dancing. Stripping in a club is no where near the level of performing in a boy band.
You said she was the only one with no experience, Megan – going by your metric, she has as much experience as Candace. If you think she’s just a reality show person, you’re a bit naive. I think there’s all kinds of acting that goes into her kind of reality show.
“She’s never gone before a live audience and entertained. That’s what I mean by NO experience.” Who exactly do exotic dancers entertain for if not a live audience? I’m no saying she is a dancer just pointing out your contradictory and inaccurate comments
It’s stage experience, Megan – that’s experience PERFORMING. And you have to have rhythm to do it too.
Susan when has she dared anyone to teach her? She was excited to learn from Derek, she speaks highly of everyone. Nene is a acquired taste, I get that. But I think she has been great on the show. I don’t see attitude, nastiness, or entitlement.
Are u honestly going to compare strip club work on a stage smaller than a living room to performing practiced choreo with a boy band?
NeNe is one of my favorite Housewives and I look forward to watching her tonite on the reunion. Knowing her from there she has been relatively calm on DWTS and I have enjoyed her. She has been entertaining and fun to watch with Tony however it’s time for those continuing to dance and grow to move forward. She has done well but the learning curve has been minimal for her and I don’t see it going much further.
My point is, I would not be surprised if she stuck around longer than some think because she’s different. Not better or worse, just another choice.
Yes, I will when the statement references that she is the only inexperieinced one left even though there is a singer, childhood star and snowboarder yes I am. To be honest Amy is probably the ONLY true INEXPERIENCED person left. The rest are all perfomers on some level (platform irrelevant)
I find that sort of overly sassy, Queen Bee persona that NeNe has rather exhausting.
The only time she was interesting to me was directly after the Cruella Foxtrot, when she was reacting to her blow up with Tony that week during rehearsal. She showed real human emotion with her tears, but after that it was right back to the same old schtick.
There’s got to be a real person underneath all that bluster. I’d much rather watch that person on DWTS instead of the HBIC we’ve gotten.
This week will test the strength of James’ fanbase. He is really close in term of judges’ scores with Danica, Candace and Nene so it really depends on the fan’s votes. Should be interesting to see how things turn out tomorrow.
We should not assume that Meryl will win. When Derek had Shawn for the all star season i was positive they would and should have won. But for some strange reason Melissa won with mediocre choreography. I think the pros are jealous od Derek’s immense talent. He manages toalways make his celebrity shine. He is very humble and i think that is what makes him so likeable. Maks is a big baby, imagine if Meryl does not win, he is likely to have a reaction similar to the one he had when Kirstie Alley lost. Val deserves to win more than him..Val is right behind Derek in terms of choreography talent.
@ PH, do you think it’s possible to have a tie for the win in the finals?
#Megan … Obviously we see different things, which is how the world works. As much as I love and adore and admire Derek, he was in a position to give NeNe exactly what she wanted, which was to go out there and just be NeNe. No surprise that she loved that. She has not, in my view, been willing to risk for one second not being NeNe to give herself over to the character of a dance. She constantly mentions having no experience, but a lot of personality, and she’s been banking on that since day 1. It’s extremely unfortunate that the judges have been so over scoring her, because otherwise she might have had to rethink her strategy and actually apply herself to learning something.
Truth is, I don’t watch DWTS for ball room dancing. I don’t expect it. I watch it for entertainment. Honestly, I read the comments here then go back and watch PBS ball room and see what you folks are discussing. I don’t expect it on ABC on Mon night. The water cooler conversation is about who was exciting, who was funny, who was cute, who was sexy. It’s these votes that can keep a Nene or create a shock.
once again meryl nor charlie should be on this show because of the dance experience they have. they are ice dancers. i am hoping james and amy are the last 2 standing they deserve to be. yes i do vote
To be honest I’m really shocked NeNe is still there after seeing how much backlash there was against her after the blow up. I must be underestimating something about her appeal. Since she survived last week, I don’t know what it will take for her to leave. Although her Disney week routine was entertaining, I’m just not sure where her fan base is coming from, although I guess we don’t really know that much about how large it is. The judges have been so generous to her, even though she’s not doing much of the assigned dance styles. If I’m reading PH’s previous posts correctly, Drew had to get nearly 25K more votes per million than NeNe to stay last week over NeNe, but NeNe did need to beat out Cody’s fan base by almost 5K votes per million to stay over him. If I remember correctly, NeNe had higher scores than both Sean and Diana, so that doesn’t tell us much; only that she’s more popular than Cody and at worst not much less popular than Sean and Diane. Drew seemed to have quite a bit to make up.
If it’s not NeNe going home this week, I do wonder if Danica is in trouble (only based on her being put in jeopardy last week) or Candace (since she’s been put in the ‘not necessarily the bottom two’ twice). I do think Candace’s fan base might be larger and I have to admit I wonder how many people find Danica annoying. She keeps reminding me of Sally Field, when she gave her “you like me, you really like me” acceptance speech. The only other person I see as possibly in trouble is James, since I just don’t know if the core voters are voting for him. Personally I think Meryl, Charlie and Amy are getting most of the votes, with the other four fighting over small percentages but I could be totally off base and I have nothing to back that up.
YOU said, Megan, that she was the only one left with NO experience. I am pointing out that you are WRONG. Don’t keep changing the target, sweetheart.
LOL are you serious Cathy? Meryl and Charlie have had their challenges too. You don’t think it was hard learning to dance on the floor instead of the ice? They are working every bit as hard as everyone else and are just as deserving. Don’t get me wrong, I’m loving Amy and James too, but, Meryl and Charlie deserve to be on this show or win as anyone else.
Anything is possible, Jane, but that is HIGHLY unlikely. Not with as many people that are likely voting.
Interesting comments. My question is, if you think Candace might go home does that mean TeamLoca will not win the team dance? Usually the eliminated celeb comes from the loser of the team dance. Has there ever been an eliminated celeb from the winner of the team dance? I honestly don’t remember.
jl2285 – yes, an eliminated person has come from the winning team at least once – Pam Anderson.
The problem with having a “so and so shouldn’t be on the show because….” attitude is that you could twist it to include just about every contestant on the ever.
Ice skaters shouldn’t be on the show because they dance on ice.
All athletes shouldn’t be on the show because dancers are athletes too therefore all athletes are ringers.
Singers shouldn’t be on the show because many have danced in their concerts or music videos making them ringers.
Actors are ringers because they are used to performing and getting into the character of the dance.
So who’s left to cast on the show? Reality stars, politicians, and vapid wanna be’s? No thanks.
Not to mention that many “ringers” in the past seasons haven’t even made into the finals.
I enjoy watching the Bill Engvalds and Carson Kressleys of the DWTS world dance as much as I have the Charlies and Meryls.
Ah! Ok, thanks! Hope it is NeNe going home and not Candace. Guess we can look for a “will she or won’t she dance” scenario for Danica tomorrow. Thinking a pro may dance in her place in the team dance. Can’t imagine she can do both.
Said so well Susan!!
I hope Danica is well enough to do both dances. Although I know when they substitute a celeb with a pro the pro isn’t supposed to be judged but in all honesty just their presence improves the look and sync. of the dance no matter what and the judges often comment on the sync. Team Loca already has immense amount of talent going for it. They should look fabulous I’m certain. Derek never disappoints
PH I can admit that my comment of “no experience” was too broad. I personally would not put stripping and reality tv acting in the same scope as choreo boy band dancing and script method acting. But technically, you are right. I am wrong.
I don’t see why Danica can’t do both dances, she’s dancing well enough in rehearsal. Unless there are just some tricks they want to do in the team dance that Danica isn’t up to doing.
One thing to remember is that for the team dances. You have nene Danica and Charlie all on one team with the heavily favored other team being the other 2 James and Candace. If the teams have a say James and Candace might pull out on top, with team dance scores put into it. Putting nene or Danica or both or potentially Charlie in the bottom.
@Buttercup
Thank you for the update on Danica!
Is Danica dancing well in rehearsals? I thought Val said rehearsals have been very very difficult. Unless he’s making it sound worse (while Danica has been sounding upbeat) so that when she does perform it will be awesome & she’ll get great scores. Guess we’ll see.
Sorry Michael, you have the teams wrong — it’s Charlie, James and NeNe on one team; and Meryl, Danica, Candace, and Amy on the other.
Cathy (#79) You’re probably just a drive-by, but just for the record — woop-dee-doo for you vote and you’re passive aggressive too, I see. I think Charlie and Meryl have just as much right to be on the show, and guess what, *snap* I vote too!!!!!
Megan (#90 and all your other endless comments about NeNe), How magnanimous of you to admit you were wrong. I’d say stripping is a whole lot more like dancing than “script method acting”. Stripping is movement based performance-art for a live audience. So NeNe has got a shit-ton more experience than Candace, the child actress. James and NeNe are pretty much on par with their movement-based performance experience, and he’s a way better dancer than NeNe will ever be. It would be pathetic reflection on voters if he went home before NeNe.
@jl2285 – Regarding Danica & her injury, I’ll just say this: when I asked Deep Throat (our source at the show) if Danica had missed a lot of rehearsal time due to her ribs, Deep Throat seemed really confused – said that Danica only missed one rehearsal, and it was to go to a science convention in DC; other than that, she had been doing just fine, and Val didn’t have to drastically alter their salsa to accommodate the injury. Deep Throat also said that a general sentiment amongst some of the crew is that Danica’s injury “isn’t as severe as she’s making it sound”. Make what you will of that…
EDIT: Clarified with Deep Throat: Danica missed one day of rehearsal AS A RESULT of the injury – and that was the day that she skipped it to go to the doctor and Val just ran through the routine with the troupe. She then missed an additional day due to the convention, but that had been pre-planned and was not due to the injury.
I make of it that Danica and Val have found the alternative to a showmance…
Now that’s interesting about Danica. Heidi you crack me up!
something is surely fishy!!!
@iamValC 24h
1 broken rib.
2 dances to prep.
3 missed days of rehearsals…
Seeing @danicamckellar persevere… PRICELESS!!!
Never underestimate the ability of a Chmercocky to make a mountain out of a molehill. After all, mountains get more attention. The family motto must be, “a vote is a vote and a win is a win no matter how you get it.”
I’d say stripping is plenty of experience. Sparkly, barely there clothing and a lot of thrusting….. That sounds like DWTS to me. She’s got performance experience beyond Candace for sure. Tony May be giving her non ballroom choreo but I think she sells it.
The judging has been so erratic this season…… It’s hard for me to reason about why they’re doing what they do. I try not to understand crazy
I’m just hoping that either NeNe or Danica(not a dancer with a broken rib that is *really* interfering with her rehearsals) goes home tomorrow…
The possibility that Danica might be embellishing a bit in order to garner sympathy votes just irks more when I consider that (also according to Deep Throat) there is a other member of the celeb cast that is currently injured – possibly worse than Danica – but refuses to talk about it on camera because he/she “doesn’t want pity votes”.
I was just starting to like Danica so I hope she’s not embellishing her injury. And I hope you’re not talking about Amy being injured. That would break my heart.
I can’t comment on who the other injured contestant is, but the fact that they’re the type that doesn’t want to make a big deal about their injury should offer some hints as to who they might be.
Ooh…the plot thickens. I’ll just say that if this is true, dishonesty always comes back to bite you in the end. One way or another. Now or later.
@Cids – the mountain/molehill/attention comment was hilarious.
Everyone has pretty much been quiet about rehearsals so it’s hard to tell who might be the injured celeb. Of course the fact that they don’t want sympathy votes tells me it’s probably an athlete.
For what it’s worth, Danica may genuinely believe her injury is far worse than it really is – as we’ve seen, she’s pretty Type A, and seems to get herself really wound up over things that may not be worth getting wound up over (i.e. samba choreography in week 2). She may have worried herself into thinking her injury was potentially the end of her run on the show – and Val only knows what Danica tells him, so if she says she’s in pain, he really has no choice but to believe her. So I guess if she really is worried – just CALM DOWN, Danica. Diagnoses can be scary, but they’re not always worth getting worked up about. If she’s consciously embellished on her injury, I just have to shake my head and say “Really??!”
can’t imaging how Danicanotadancer is doing it… Imagine how much better she would be doing if she had training in all of these dances for years and just had to learn the routine, not the basics of the dance. oh, wait…
And i hope the injury isn’t Amy. The description sounds like her…
I’m going with Danica’s Type A personality. She doesn’t seem like the conniving type at all. I hope she does well in both her dances tomorrow. It all may just be an honest misunderstanding like the telephone game of info.
Courtney, you might have a very good point. Some people react to illness/injury by worrying about worst case scenarios-then psyche themselves out. It could have been a few rough days for Val and Danica if she was feeling unable to really push it as was needed to learn the dance. Not trying to take away from her as cracked ribs can really, really hurt. Athletes are usually used to dealing with injuries, and try and push through them. Val might have been doing a few eye rolls those days. Regardless, I am hoping she is mending quickly.
Personally, my take is that yes, Danica is probably injured, but is she also over exaggerating a bit? Probably, imo. But I also agree that she’s the type to over stress over things like a doctor’s word of caution, so her feelings could very well be genuine.
Hm. Another contestant is injured too besides Danica? And they don’t want to talk about it? Just my speculation here: I don’t think it’s James, or Charlie. I feel Candace would talk about it if true, and Nene definitely would imo. Then it would/could be either Amy or Meryl… and Meryl looked fine to me in her latest interview from today (and well she skated a SOI show a couple hours ago, so if she’s injured, she’ll be able to dance anyway). sigh…. I could be totally off base though.
I can see Amy not wanting to talk about it if she’s injured. Candace also had an injury the switch up week (she apparently posted on Instagram about getting an x-ray). I hope Candace outlasts Nene if for no other reason than that she might wind up with a ballroom waltz or foxtrot next week. I would feel super bad for her if she didn’t get to waltz after the producers totally gipped her by giving her the rumba for her “most looking forward to” dance.
I’m just reading all of these comments and @Susan, #86, I completely agree with you. If you took out all the people that would fall in those categories, the show would be left with people I sure wouldn’t want to watch.
I watch the show for entertainment, but I also want to see good dancing. After all, it is a dancing show. I like watching the Bill Engvall’s and Carson Kressley’s as much as the Meryl and Charlie’s. I don’t enjoy watching those like Bristol Palin or NeNe. By this point in the competition, everyone left, even those without any dance experience, should have improved enough to be able to dance the dance given to them. Bristol did not do that, in fact, I remember in one package Mark asked her if she wanted him to “dumb down” the dance for her. With NeNe, all you get is the shimmying and shaking, with flats on, with little or no content of the dance she’s supposed to be doing. Her screeching during her packages are annoying. She was an interesting addition to the show, but her time is now up and she, with Tony, need to go. If she gets through tonight, and the judges gush and overscore her again, then she’s going to be around just as long as Bristol always managed, and that wouldn’t be a good thing.
As for Danica, I wouldn’t wish an injury on anyone, but @Courtney, #93, I agree. I think it’s a play to get the sympathy vote, especially when your source is saying it’s not as bad as she’s making it out to be. It’s the look at me, I’m hurt, but I’m a trooper and I’m going to dance.
My hope and wish is that NeNe goes tonight and Danica goes next week.
sorry for the off topic question, what happened to Derek’s blog this week?
Well if you go by Facebook chatter (which some people swear by) Nene will be going home this week. They posted pictures of each dance from last week and Nene’s had the fewest “likes”. I will say the week Cody went his dance had the fewest likes as well. The order is Meryl, James, Amy, Charlie, Candace and Danica are tied more or less, and then Nene (who didn’t even crack 1K likes).
As most are saying I wouldn’t wish an injury on anyone, it’s obviously difficult and painful for the celeb, stressful for the pro and clouds the judgement of the judges and viewers. That being said, it wouldn’t surprise me if Danica maybe isn’t as bad off as it sounds. Whether it’s conscious or not (or a suggestion from producers) up until this point Danica hasn’t really had a story IMO (sorry CAI, not buying the “improvement” arc you are jamming down our throats) and this gives them something to make them memorable this week. Thing is, the core audience is just going to know what they show in the package so I expect them to play it up and think it will garner her enough sympathy votes to make it to the semis. As for the actual dance? No idea what to expect.
I watched a parking lot video with Amy on PDH, where she answered the paps question of “What do you do to stay injury free?” While she never explicitly stated she had no major injuries, the way she was talking strongly suggests that she’s not the one injured (which I’m really happy about) – and she mentioned that there are others with injuries.
I think that Charlie, James and Meryl are *all* good candidates for who has an injury but isn’t talking about it, because Charlie and Meryl are athletes, and that’s how they do things, and James seems like the kind of guy who isn’t interested in creating drama, whether through injury or showmance – and Candace as an outside possibility. While she posted something on twitter briefly about getting an X-ray, that’s different than making a big deal about something on camera.
I actually wonder if it’s James with the injury. I thought he and Peta made a slight reference to it after they danced their contemporary. I think Peta said something about being so happy with the way the dance went especially with their injury and James kind of shut her down. Maybe I read more into to it than was there though. 🙂
It’s possible it’s James. In his BTR days you would not find out about their tours from injuries/illness until well after the tour was over even though they did interviews and meet and greets daily
May just be his way to not promote things like that
Megan,
This discussion is probably over and done with, but Nene does have scripted TV experience. She’s guest stared on Glee several times and was on NBC’s The New Normal last year.
Just one more note on NeNe. I once heard a woman who had weight issues say “If you can’t hide it, paint it red.” I think that’s what they’re doing with NeNe in the team dance. Can’t hide her, so put her front and center.
I’ve enjoyed NeNe on the show but I think it’s her night to go.
Wanted to mention that Mark Ballas must have taken Julianne’s comments to heart – he has not been overdancing Candace – he could have really gone to town on their last dance but he’s been pretty subdued – I like the change.
Looking forward to Amy & Derek’s rumba and Charlie & Sharna’s Paso. Hope they both kill it tonight!
I bet the other hurt is either Amy or Charlie….. Athletes understand how to take pain a lot better then non athletes (Danica) so I wouldn’t be surprised it was one of them
This is purely a situation of demographics. Typical fans of DWTS are over 49 years old. (article on yahoo news says 75%)That said, what to individuals over 49 years old watch? I am thinking that many of them watched Wonder years and Full House with their children growing up (I know I did and I am 47) and DO NOT watch the housewives of any county/city/state. My first introduction to NENE was on The Apprentice. I didn’t enjoy her then and don’t enjoy her presence now. Many many message boards talk about “NENE must go”. I am hoping that Candace and Danica (and the rest of the gang) can hold on to enough votes to have her off the show. I usually have my Kindle or a magazine on my lap while watching the show (if I haven’t DVR’d it) and I don’t pay attention to what she is doing or not doing (so Fast forward through DVR) . She is not entertaining to me at all.
http://news.yahoo.com/vastly-different-audiences-favorite-tv-shows-192137760–finance.html
Heidi…your post #97? what do you mean by that? lol alternative to a showmance…