DWTS Season 19, Week 1 Discussed on Afterbuzz TV
I haven’t had a chance to listen to the whole thing yet, so I can’t give my full commentary. 🙂
I haven’t had a chance to listen to the whole thing yet, so I can’t give my full commentary. 🙂
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Anna just killed me this week! Sergei was a great guest. 🙂
yeah I didn’t enjoy it as much Anna I feel was a little bitter about something! She wasn’t her normal self I don’t think she enjoyed it!
I agreed with everything Anna said. I love her analysis.
So Serge thinks Sadie is a liar and has had secret dance training because she was good?
Really? And he had to throw a dis in on Derek getting presents with high scores because he’s won 5 times. What an insecure person he must be. I would love to see if he can get through next week without having to put someone down or call them a liar which he essentially does by saying he doesn’t believe Sadie when she said she never danced outside of home before. Putting other people down isn’t going to make your team’s scores higher.
I can’t wait to see Keo next week on the show!
I agree with you Ashley, especially about the Derek comments. I spent 2 hours researching the dance comment from Serge and couldn’t find anything that supported that.
I was also disappointed with what Suri had to say about Derek and Bethany, after calling herself a Derek fan. I don’t know but it always seems like she is a “fam” fan. Then she also talked about Janel and Val and how Val had specifically said it wasn’t a “showmance”. I have to say I thought I was watching a different show than they were.
Frankly, I can’t stand any of them….just liked Jake.
I was just getting ready to watch this, but after reading the comments above, I think I’ll pass. I don’t need the aggravation! Thanks for the heads up!
So you expect me to take a SYTYCD wannabe (and failure) judging an Emmy award winner seriously ?? Yah … no . Keep trying though Serge , I appreciate the effort
I will take Kenny Ortega’s opinion of Derek’s capabilities over Serge”s any day.
I agree, Machane !!! Plus, he basically says Sadie isn’t being truthful about not having danced before by how her feet were when she did a duck/quack motion in a video her & Mark did during rehearsal….good grief 🙁
I didn’t watch the episode, but from what I’ve gathered… what, is this pick on 17 and 18 year olds day? I’m not one to baby a younger contestant (they chose to step into an adult arena), but there’s a difference between criticism and blatantly calling Sadie a liar and saying that Bethany’s scores were “presents”. That isn’t appropriate. Unless Sadie does something to prove that she’s lying (something legitimate, not speculation), why even discuss it? After all that fuss about how Zendaya’s hip hop experience didn’t count for anything back in season 16, they sure are trying to throw Sadie under the bus.
Wow…I can’t believe the “fams” attempts to trash Sadie just to propel Janel. I think they know Sadie will appeal more to the general audience so now they are trying to start some campaign that she’s a liar. Give me a break. Sadie is clearly a natural mover yes but I thought it was fairly obvious she also isn’t that polished or completely fluid in her movements yet. Give the girl a break!
For once I actually agreed with Suri on what she had to say about Janel though.
The “fam” don’t make it easy to like them do they, hypocrites spring to mind tbh. They are doing to Sadie exactly what they complained was happening to Zendaya . Mind you this season im just watching the dancing and if I like it voting, if not I don’t bother. Im trying not to bother too much about dwts on social media but it is hard as they are going hardcore with it this season.
I love kristyn. She does an amazing job both on sytycd ab and on dwts.
This episode was a bit weird. I love anna, but she was acting out for the cameras. They spent a lot of time rambling about unimportant stuff and then rushed through the episode. Also, jake NEEDS to come back. Weird chemistry happening there. Laughed out hard when anna was trying to say derek is the only pro on dwts with status to become a judge and serge said maks. For real????
About the dances I agreed with many things they said, except that for this time, the fam lovers will be delighted to listen to serge. But I agree about what he said about sharna. That woman is a beast.
Ok that’s it. .
Totally agree Machane! I trust the opinions of the person with the legitimate credentials before the spokesperson for the fam. In the beginning of the interview, Anna was talking about Julianne as a judge. Boy, the look she shot Serge when he interrupted her by saying they should have had Maks as a judge. Who is this guy?? I know it’s tough to get good guests, but don’t just grab anyone who’s “free”. Also didn’t like him saying he had to go back to watch Bethany’s dance because he couldn’t remember it. Presents?? Derek doesn’t need any help after 6 Emmy noms, 1 Emmy and 5 MBTs (not helped from overscoring or a showmance, but truly earned).
Wish I could find where you give them the stars because this show barely makes 1 star. They need better time management instead of going on and on about some couples and then rush through the rest.
Can’t wait for Jake to return. No more ‘fam’ spokespersons. I couldn’t believe Serge’s accusations on Sadie. Typical fam propaganda. Knock someone else down to elevate “la familia”.
I will say I won’t blame the whole fam, Val included, for what Serge says and Janel favoriting her exec. producer’s tweet the other day.
I’d at least ask Val his opinion of what was said and not assume he agrees but I really don’t think he himself is thinking about little Sadie. Janel, yes, because she was overconfident going into the show, hence her comment after the first night about wanting higher scores and Val saying they had to deserve them and to work harder.
Haven’t even watched yet, but I don’t anticipate a “surge” of good feels from Serge, based on what I’m hearing…
…he’s part of the Chmercocky faction, of course he’s gonna tie himself in knots trying to belittle anyone he perceives as a threat to one of his own. Why Sadie has suddenly become the object of everyone’s ire? I haven’t the foggiest idea – and don’t worry, Serge, I can assure you she has no dance training. Heidi & I actually researched it instead of running our mouths first and then fact-checking later. Unless you count playing basketball and throwing javelin as “dance training”, Sadie has none. Is the concept of “natural talent” lost on some of these folks??? Or just really good teaching on Mark’s part? But whatevs…so predictable, The Fam. Belittle all you want, Serge – last I checked, you were a SYTYCD loser who couldn’t break the top 10, and your claim to fame now is being micromanaged by the Chmerkovskiy brothers and filling in on a DWTS podcast/internet show. Is there a rule that all of Jake’s replacements must be butthurt Derek detractors? First Julz, now Serge…
I think in this case it is the pot calling the kettle black. Sadie is not the one trying to hide or downplay her dance experience, Janel is. Sadie is not the “liar” Janel is.(or Pretty Little Liar) Ha ha
Unfortunately, the make yourself look better by putting someone else down is not an uncommon thing in today’s world.
Sad but true, PJ. But my father used to tell me that not responding to passive aggressive comments is the best solution, as it leaves the naysayers mad as hell for not being able to get into a fight. Both Derek and Mark are seasoned pros and know how the show works, and how to support their partners, so I think both Bethany and Sadie will do well.
What bothers me is that they imply that Bethany is not a star, but in my opinion neither was Amy before the show. Her story was very inspiring, but she was no household name, and her partnership with Derek was amazing!
Huge success breeds jealousy. Always something to keep in mind. Add in that Serge is a member of the family who’s motto is “Family First” no matter what, of course you’re going to get snide Derek comments and the inflated view of Janel. Come on – Janel was NOT good and she’s trained. Bethany is a young girl who’s never performed live before and who’s experience was a pre-teen dance class.
Generally, I enjoy Afterbuzz. I don’t mind comments about Bethany’s technique – she’s not a trained dancer! She’s not going to have great technique after 3 weeks with Derek. It is what it is. But the snide comments about Derek and the comment that imply Sadie is lying about something?? Gee Serge, feeling a tad jealous?? Wait until Janel is voted off in week 7 or 8.
For some reason I can’t get the podcast to load on my phone and it’s probably a good thing. Based on the comments here, I don’t really think I want to watch this week. I’ll tune back in for week 3. I don’t really need to listen to Serge thinking he is all high and mighty and talking about how Derek gets pity scores because he’s so good and how Sadie is lying about her experience. SYTYCD brought everybody from the top 14 on to the tour except for him and they put Marquette in instead. Probably says something about him…
#18 Machane I think CAI feels Bethany is not a star either. She had such a “blah” tone in her voice when commenting Monday. Plus, totally leaving Bethany out of her Parade blog is inexcusable. The ABTV crew shouldn’t dismiss her either; they could make it big too off an internet show.
It does make me wonder how much Derek is a talking point in the “familia” for Serge to get in line. Real stupid seeing how Move Live on Tour could need more dancers; but I guess he just wants to be a dance instructor.
Really Kaitlyn?? Yeah, that is pretty telling….
With his attitude , no wonder SYTYCD didn’t even choose him as an alternate for he tour. They chose Marquet, who was top 16, instead of Serge who was top 14. And I pray he never makes it to DWTS. It was evident he wasn’t comfortable with Ballroom dances, just Latin.
That’s the funny thing about “the fam” – always shooting themselves in the foot. Lucky for them, Derek is NOT the type of person to not hire someone who badmouthed him or is jealous of him. If you’re a good dancer, he’ll hire you, I think. Now Julianne?? Watch your ass, buddy. 😀 Unfortunately for guys like Serge, Julianne is the worker bee and Derek is the creative one.
As PH says, EVERYONE has biases and when we’re able to know the bias it’s easy to take opinions as opinions…but perhaps a lot of people who might watch the afterbuzz show might not realize how close Serge is to the fam.
I agree that I don’t remember Beth’s dance and that Derek has his work cut out for him. I can kind of appreciate how they clearly “documented” that on this show. She’s a cutie and has a lot to be very proud of, but she is not a natural. She’s not flexible, but more so, as Derek said in one interview, girl is NOT strong. Her core, poor child, she’s so stacked, her spine and her head on her shoulders. And as they ALL, even Serge said, Derek’s got his work cut out for him, and if anyone can do it, it’s Derek. Thankfully, they have a fan base to give them time.
I also agree that no matter how cute Keo is, this very needy celeb and this inexperienced pro weren’t a good match.
I think the score gift comment was clearly a jab based on bias, but it’s a common thing that team will say on that show about scores in general so maybe for those of us who are aware of his strong bias, it might be easy to react more strongly to him saying it when it’s said all the time by all of them.
I find it very ironic that the Afterbuzz crew questions Bethany status due to her being famous for You Tube. Have you ever seen Suri report on primetime TV? I don’t live in the US, so I have to watch her on Youtube as well.
What the hell was up with Anna. She wasted so much time rambling and staring at the camera. Just weird, I had to fast forward her parts after a while.
Serge was there to shill for his fam and he did it well. Kristyn knew what was up which is why she didn’t dwell in him too much.
Also, in pitting cute very young girl (Sadie) against polished performer, they are digging Val’s grave rather than helping him, so Serge, if you’re reading this and you care about Val sticking around, a lot of people who are the main demographic of this show, the ones who vote and keep people in, are not going to appreciate it. Do Val a big favor and be a little more gracious, do your snark privately.
@PH- Yup, everyone except for him on tour. On the last so you think ABTV show he talked about how he thought he was in but then he wasn’t and I believe it was also on that show (before Serge got there) where Teddy mentioned that him, Emily, Carly and Marquette were the alternates.
The fam have complete blinders on when it comes to anyone outside of their circle and anyone associated with them. I think Val is slightly better than most of the members of the fan but not a lot.
I feel like such a vindictive person but I have such a strong desire to see Janel and Val voted off just to prove to him and the fam that their little strategy isn’t the way to win and the fans are smarter than you think. I agree with Heidi though that if they are voted off before the finals it wouldn’t be until week 7 or 8 (though I would love for it to be sooner!).
I can’t believe Sadie’s dance experience wasn’t discussed among the C bros and Serge. They all live together and the strategy of the partners etc would be a topic of conversation. I think Sadie danced like someone who didn’t have dance classes. Definitely room for growth and she will be a sponge for Mark and I am sure Shirley is helping out. I think Serge and the fam was pissed that Mark and Sadie were scored so high and also she could be a real threat to Janel mid season when all the weaker dancers are gone. As for Anna, she needs to learn when to stop talking. That girl is a chatterbox!
I thought the comment about Sadie was pathetic. Really dude? You “can tell she has dance experience” from a little duck-inspired-dance move that she did? Give me a break. It was damn obvious to pretty much EVERYONE that this girl has no dance experience whatsoever. What she does have though is youth, the willingness to learn and an amazing teacher in Mark which is why she looked as great as she did Monday night.
And about that Derek comment? Wow. Dude, grow up. Seriously, who thought it was a good idea to get Serge? At this point I’d rather have Julz back. (or Jake, even though I haven’t seen an Afterbuzz show with him on but people seem to love him)
I also got some REALLY weird vibes from Anna from the beginning. It was almost as if she was bitter that Julianne got the judging gig instead of her. Not a good look Anna… And then the rest of the show she just looked kinda uninterested. I did agree with her in SOME of the comments though, I guess.
I also think they really underestimated Bethany. I thought her Jive was miles better than Janel’s. Maybe Janel’s was more “energetic” and “sexy” but Bethany’s was a lot cleaner and not so much “in your face”. I also just rewatched the dance and I don’t think her kicks and flicks were as bad as Suri and the rest of them thought. They looked fine to me.
Idk, this whole first AfterBuzz show did not leave a good taste in my mouth. If it’s gonna feel like this next week then I don’t think I’ll be tuning in.
I always enjoy listening to the afterbuzz tv show, and in my opinion this one wasn’t that bad. Sure there were things I didn’t agree with, but I just enjoy listening to the different opinions. I actually didn’t take Serge’s comment as an insult to Sadie, I thought he was joking about how good she was by saying that it looks like she’s had dance training. I also agreed with Suri’s comment about Janel possibbly being like Christina Millian and eliminated early for not connecting to the viewers. This is just my opinion however.
I loved this episode of AferBuzz. A little bit rushed, but that’s about it.
To me Sadie looks like a natural mover, and as someone you can mold easily. Anna described her perfectly.
We we all listening to the same show? I didn’t hear what most of you guys heard at all. I heard them giving major props to Derek as the “one” who could help a girl like Bethany get farther than perhaps another instructor could because he is more talented. I actually had to go back and listen again to find the comment about scores as gifts. I didn’t know who serge is/was so as someone from the outside, I didn’t come away from it at all thinking he was in favor of one group over another. Does supporting a pro mean you aren’t allowed to comment or criticize their partner? that’s just weird….
Bethany wasn’t memorable for me at all either, but obviously the show loses something if Derek isn’t on. I was wowed by Sadie and can’t wait to see more. Love her with Mark Also didn’t connect to Janel (but i like Val a lot) and my opinion hardly matters because i live overseas and never bother to vote unless I feel super invested in someone.
IMO this was the worst episode of Afterbuzz DWTS ever. Boring and infuriating. If Suri says “you know I love everything Derek does, but …” and then goes on to say how over-scored or unimpressive Derek and his partner were, I’m going to scream. We get it – Suri is tight with Tony, and that little lead-up doesn’t fool us. Serge surely made his agenda known throughout the episode. Ugh.
I usually love Afterbuzz but this first show of the season did not work for me at all. And yes a major reason was Serge. His comments basically calling Sadie a liar immediately made me loose any respect for his opinions at all.
I didn’t even bother to care what he had to say about Bethany and Derek. We all know that most of the Fam have to toss out a Hough dig. Well, until they need a Hough to get them on camera and then they will run out front and center to be choreographed by the “Golden Boy” with a smile on their face. It’s sad for me because I adore Val, or used to a lot more than I do now, and that’s because of the Fam and their childish antics.
I just hope Serge doesn’t become a regular on AB because I look forward to it every week during the season. But I will tune out if that is what they are going to offer up on a weekly basis. If I want to listen to more whining from La Familia I will start following the DWM Twitter again.
@ LG #35 “I actually had to go back and listen again to find the comment about scores as gifts…..”
“Does supporting a pro mean you aren’t allowed to comment or criticize their partner? that’s just weird….”
It’s not that Serge critiqued Beth, it’s that he said the scores they got were gifts because Derek has won 5 times. That’s just an immature dig at a pro.
There’s a difference between personal criticism and an objective critique. And Serge said he didn’t believe Sadie never had dance training, implying the 17-year-old innocent is a liar.
That’s just pathetic, immature and unprofessional. Imo.
To people with that low character trait, good luck, let’s see where it gets you in life.
Yeah, really, LG…way to miss the entire point.
Funny how that always happens. Don’t like how people are criticizing someone you like, twist the subject.
I was actually thinking about the comment someone made earlier about saying that one of the hosts (suri?) called herself a Derek fan and then criticized Bethany when i asked why one can’t support a pro and still criticize the dancer.
My MAIN point was that I heard that segment about Derek and Bethany and I heard criticism of Bethany–of her technical skills– and nothing but praise for Derek as being the one who was talented enough to help her out and take her far. It seemed pretty complimentary. I.e. the way these comments read (and i read them AFTER listening, not before, so wasn’t going in with preconceived notions) was that it was some sort of Derek bashing session by all of the hosts. Just didn’t think we had all listened to the same broadcast.
I’m guessing one of the Chmerkovskiy fangirls caught wind of what was being said here, and either posted the link to a Maksyl fan board (and yes, we can tell who links to us – thanks for the traffic, sillies!), Twitter, or Facebook, and rallied the troops to come and “defend the Chmerkovskiy honor”. Explains the sudden influx of Serge sympathizers…
…and as I mentioned on Twitter, I’m a little baffled as to why, of all the contestants on this season, is Sadie suddenly the Chmerkovskiy’s favorite whipping girl. Do they really think she’s the biggest threat to Janel walking off with the MBT? If so, then they’re gonna be blindsided when Alfonso, Randy, Bethany, Lea, and/or even Mike manage to outlast Janel. All of the above (plus Sadie) are either more talented than Janel, more likeable than Janel, or have fanbases more compatible with DWTS than Janel. Hell, at this point, I’d say barring some MAJOR meltdown, Alfonso’s almost unstoppable. You all know I love the guy to bits, but I’m surprised that Mr. “Four 9’s in week 1” and “One of the best first week dances ever!!!” is not getting more shade thrown his way by fans of other couples. Or is everyone just in awe of how damn good he is that he’s above reproach? 😎
Well, LG, I suggest you be more specific in your posts so people get what it is you’re talking about the first time. If you weren’t so intent on being critical of other posters maybe that would be easier.
I’m baffled because Sadie is partnered with Mark who, unlike Derek, doesn’t let those kinds of comments slide. I wonder how he will deal with all these crazy complaints.
I’ve never been a fan of Anna’s while she was a pro – she always seemed so cold to me. When she started in on Julianne and “gravitas” – I just had to laugh. She is so jealous! She thinks Maks has more gravitas – please! I think Julianne is a great judge and gives constructive criticism.
I missed Serge’s comment about Sadie. She and Mark are really cute together and I think they’ll go far.
Although I enjoyed Janel’s dance, the package with she and Val doing the I love you and kissy face was a total turnoff. Definitely think Sadie will connect more with the audience than Janel.
Think Kristyn has been hanging out with the fam too long. Serge as a guest for two weeks is not entertaining and he isn’t even a dwts pro. He wasn’t good in ballroom on sytycd. He is as bad as Julz except Julz just talked more. And Julz was never on time.
Serge just guarantees a pro fam pov. Unlike Shirley who is a judge and has trained all the pros and can provide insight.
I think Kristyn and Suri don’t think Bethany is a star and are extra critical of her. While Sadie who is a reality show participant is more? Sadie is a natural mover like Brooke. Bethany is not a dancer and while stiff, I thought it looked great. They seemed harsh on her which makes me wonder what is going on ( bias) to lead to such tough criticism. Serge’s comment about the gift because of her partner was just petty. He wishes he could be a five time winner, NY times best seller, sold out tours, Emmy win, guest star on a tv show etc.
Reading Kristyn’s comments, her bias for ?Val which I always thought she had is evident. She seems to think Janel will go far.
It is Alfonso’s to lose anyway. Though Sadie herself has a hard core fan base. Sure same ones voting for Candace will vote for her.
I can’t really say much that hasn’t already been said… I love Kristyn, Suri and Anna to pieces, but Serge was not enjoyable.
He didn’t say TOO much on Janel but what I heard made me go “Oh yeah… this dude is a Fam dude…” And then he started talking bout Sadie and how she’s lying. Really put me off. And too bitter about Derek and he literally has no reason to.
I sincerely hope he doesn’t join our lovely ladies again after next week.
I like Kristyn and I don’t think she has a bias towards Val or the Fam. What I think they ALL do is try to hard too be fair to everyone…to the point that sometimes they aren’t really fair at all. Try to not offend anyone because they want people to come on their show – and I can understand that.
I want Derek to go on there and show the other pros how to be diplomatic and not throw others under the bus. But the price of his success is that it will be difficult to get him.
Melissa, I love Kristyn too. She is one of the most kind hearted entertainment reporters out there and, what’s more, one who considers herself one with all of us. I also don’t think she’s biased towards Val, etc. I can tell you…she loves Derek. Like Heidi, I think she’s just trying to remain neutral and let everyone get their opinion in. If everyone agreed in their discussions, the show wouldn’t be as good as it is.
I like Kristyn but I think you guys hit it on the nail for me. When she tries to be neutral sometimes it seems like it veers too much in one direction. But I do think she has her biases. We are all human. I don’t always agree with her though. She does like Val, that is evident. I usually agree with Suri and Anna but I disagreed a lot about their thoughts on Bethany.
There is no rule that she has to hate or dislike Val in order to like Derek. The two things aren’t connected.
I am not disagreeing with that. I do think she likes Val, just like she likes Derek.
Sadie is a Church of Christ girl (just like me) and we don’t dance in our denomination. It’s a social norm amongst our religious group. So just an FYI – Sadie really probably doesn’t have a lot of experience
I have listened to After Buzz on DWTS for a long time. I really like Kristyn as well. I still like her, it was others on the show (Serge and Suri) that I thought were unfair. Kristyn is a moderator or facilitator for the show so I can see why she “walks a fine line.” I’ll watch it again next week and see how it goes, but it will get old fast if the show starts going only “pro family”. The comment about Derek getting a gift etc. made me see red. The comment was just accepted and I felt like that was wrong. I kind of enjoyed Serge on SYTYCD but wow can’t stand him now. Maybe Kristyn will read some of these opinions and remind her fellow panelists to at least have the appearance of being fair. It’s a three thumbs down for me.
Kristyn reads the youtube comments. There were a few who stated their thoughts on Serge and his comments but Kristyn didn’t reply to those comments. I did give this one a thumbs down. Sorry, no five star rating this week.
I’ll add my voice as one who’s a fan of Kristyn and I look forward to afterbuzz each week. I often don’t agree with everything that’s said but that’s part of why I like listening to it. Last season, quite a few people took shots at Maks, most of which I agreed with although I still think it’s douchy to take a hit on someone that’s your colleague or if you’re a wanna be colleague. Like I thought Gleb crossed a line but otoh it makes for an interesting show. So I’ll accept that some of their guests will also in a douchy way take shots at Derek or Mark or others. And I’ll probably come here and state my disagreement but it doesn’t mean I dislike the show or the hosts.
While I also liked Serge on sytycd and enjoyed him quite a lot on the last sytycd afterbuzz, I think he has too much of a horse in this race that he feels very worried for so has an agenda of throwing shade on others.
So Serge thinks because a celeb dances with Derek they gets “presents” in the scoring? Len & Carrie Ann must not have gotten that memo when he danced with Shawn during All-Star season.
Didn’t care for Serge. He needs to go. Seems like these people are jealous of Derek’s overwhelming success.
Well Serge, if Bethany was given week 1 presents because of who her partner is, then the judges were freakin Santie Claus where Meryl was concerned all of last season. Most of the rest of what they said about Bethany was fair though it somehow made it sound worse than she really was. Seems Camp Chmerkovskiy also fears Ms. Sadie and rightfully so: If this is her first dance go, season 19 could be witness to a prodigy.
Also agree Anna seemed off. Wonder if it has something to do with her uncertain participation next week