Afterbuzz TV Reviews The Finale Of Dancing With The Stars Season 19
Below is the new Afterbuzz TV show. This time Serge Onik joins Kristyn, Anna, and Suri to review the show. I haven’t listened to all of the show yet, but, I hope to later. Let us know what you think.
Okay so didn’t agree with anna about bethany freestyle
Serge was not a great guest plus i didn’t like the little comments here and there about alfonso bitter is the word
I was happy with kristyn and suri comments on bethany freestyle and derek
Loved that anna mentionned that val went maks road but it was about the celeb except if you are maks and tony
Best comment ever
Im a little upset at mark anna mentions that he was really upset after the show i mean everyone want to win but if you dont take the high road (like derek)
Shirley implying that the show is rigged on facebook or the fact he took a shower and missed a part of the press line and some of his comments (he didn’t say anything bad but the vibe of his comments i didn’t like ) i like mark and i guess im dissapointed especially since he is friend with witney and alfonso
I loved Anna saying how it’s supposed to be about the celeb and not the pro (THANK YOU) and loved how she called out Maks for last season hahaha. Sometimes Anna frustrates me during Afterbuzz but one thing I love is she says what everyone else is thinking about this show!
I LOVED how Anna said usually it’s about the celeb except last season with Maks and All Star season. Serge did not look happy. I hope Mark is only disappointed not pissed because Alfonso did deserve the win . He was in a league of his own. Mark should be proud of how far he took Sadie, and his possible Emmy nods. Overall a good show, but I really wish Jake was there.
I agree with Suri’s comments. Bethany was eliminated because Derek has won 5 times. It sucks, but it’s true. And I love that everyone said that their freestyle was their favorite. I agree, it was fantastic!
I don’t really like Anna, but her comment about Maks was seriously on point.
I’m a little dissapointed and shocked to hear about Mark’s behaviour. I get it, they are very competitive, but for me personally, true champion knows how to win, but most importantly – knows how to lose, too. He should learn from Derek π
Oh what did Shirley post on FB?
I understand being competitive but Alfonso was the best dancer with a great personality and has a good fan base. So I am very shocked that Mark would act badly. I am not surprised by Val being upset. That is normal for “the family”.
Agree with what Anna said about the allstar season & Maks.
The only thing that bugged me was Anna commenting that Derek and Mark were “pissed” over not winning. Ok, Mark did look angry, but Mark’s attitude has sort of bugged me a lot this season, despite my love for him. But I didn’t see one ounce of anger or even surprise from Derek when they came in fourth. Heck, their post show interviews were like a “we are the champions anyway” happy party. Derek may have been upset for Mark, but pissed, I just don’t see. That’s not his attitude in life at all.
I don’t think it was as bad as val season with zendaya but yeah anna confirmed he was upset and he left to take a shower But he did came back
Shirley posted on facebook that it was the closest finale ever and it was like a 0, 1 margin or something like that i cant seem to copy and past with my phone and vaguely mention she knew more …
If it was maks i would have put a comlent about bad sportmanship but i am biased to the ballas only because i love derek
I think Anna projects a lot of emotion on to Derek that is just not there. Pissed at not winning?? Derek?? If ever there is a pro who is NOT going to be upset, it’s him. That boy would love to win for Bethany, of course, but if he doesn’t – water off a duck’s back. Derek is always the first one to lift one of the winners on this shoulders – which he probably shouldn’t do, as he spent the entire finale getting back treatment (love those backstage cameras).
Unlike Val and Zendaya (or Val and Janel), Mark and Sadie were treated pretty badly all season long, up until the end. Not Ralph Macchio bad (the judges don’t have the balls to go that far on a 17 year old), but pretty bad. We commented on it every week. Mark is not stupid – he knows when he’s being railroaded, or when there is another agenda at play. Unlike Derek, he lets it get to him – and I don’t really blame him that much. Val and Zendaya are still acting disgraceful about their loss to this day and they were pimped the whole way AND had the high score when the winner was announced. They have to deal that it was the people who gave them second. I think Mark (correctly) suspects that if they had been scored like everyone else all season long there MIGHT have been a different outcome. :::shrug::: One thing I know – he’ll get over it quickly. He probably already is over it. Unlike Val and Zendaya.
Heidi i Personally think anna meant mark and val
Plus it was well known they were both upset lots of press member mention it on their recap or twitter if she actually meant derek she is crazy he was the one lifting witney and he just so positive
I agree to an extent that it’s all about the celeb. But the pros have become celebs in their own right that it’s not just about the celeb. For me, I want to see the two come together. My favorite couples are ones that become a true partnership and work together to achieve, and both push each other to grow and do better.
I think Anna’s point was that the pros are very competitive and want to win. They are upset when they don’t and that the show is about the celeb. I don’t think she singled Matk out in particular though. Val would be pissed at coming third. That is worse than second which he might have been ok with cuz he could justify it with Alfonzo being such a good dancer. Also Witney winning first time at the finals would sting. Anna’s comment was on point about Maks. It kind of hung out there in dead air for a couple of seconds while Serge looked annoyed!!
I feel like Mark should be mad in a weird way. The judges underscored Sadie at almost every turn but they had such a journey. Alfonso and Sadie were both great so he should feel very happy. I hope this doesn’t make him like Val. Ever since Zendaya (as Princess Heidi said) he has had this weird attitude on him. Like he will do anything to win and that trophy is the only thing that matters in life. I feel like he turned into Maks.
I got the impression that Anna mistakenly during her comment said “Mark & Derek” were pissed because as she kept talking she then was referencing “Mark & Val” demeanor after the show. I really thought Anna came off as very cold this show, more so then I’ve ever seen her before, it was kind of uncomfortable. My point is, I’m not trying to defend her because she brought any heat on herself but I sincerely think she used Derek’s name by accident in place of Val.
Jackie I thought the same . She meant Mark and Val
Sidenote, whatever Anna has against Derek is weird. In terms of the biggest transformation, Bethanny wins that hands down. I think that Derek could care less that they didn’t win because they had a stellar season. I love what Anna said about Cheryl though. Those two always seemed like they really got along and this made me smile.
I can’t stand it when they have Serge on here. He sounded so bitter.
Serge is even more a ‘familia’ member than Sharna, Henry and some of the other pros on the show. So there will always be a little bias there.
Anna meant Val & Mark were pissed, not Derek. She went on to explain more after she made the first statement and was talking about Val & Mark, just a slip of the tongue. Glad to see Derek lift Witney up on his shoulders on Tuesday night.
I love that Kristyn and Suri became big Bethany fans gradually like me and loved her freestyle the most! Wish Jake could have made it, I like his feedback too.
Loved the little side comments about last season being all about Maks instead of Meryl and about the pros and cons of an All-Star season. Anna basically implying she also thought Shawn should have won and the season was about the pro who had never won instead of the dancing in the end haha.
I don’t think they will do an All-Star season again anytime soon. But, if they do, my recommendations would be:
-No former repeat pairings, all new
-No former winners, all second place or lower
That would HELP prevent the same result as the first time, though if Val hasn’t won yet before they would do another All-Star season, then, we might see more of the same….
I think Anna meant Val and Mark not Derek. That is her dislike or bitterness from s10 coming out. Similar to her comments about the FS. She seemed shocked that Kristyn and Suri liked Bethany’s the best which I thought it was top2 of the night. She lost me when she said it was easiest. No, that was Sadie. Also kept talking about production but I can picture Derek’s choreo and Bethany dancing it without music and it would look good. Sadie? Take the costume and music out and that choreo looks strange. Also I felt half way through like the FS, Mark went for more what he wanted versus what was good for Sadie. That is an idea he wanted. I feel he wanted dress like Mario.
Given how competitive he is, they are and Shirley’s comments, the behavior doesn’t shock me and I don’t think they were treated poorly. Underscored relative to Janel’s overscoring.
Serge doesn’t add much and wish they got a better guest for the finale. Or just the three of them. Jake is the best and missed him on the panel.
It certainly makes more sense, if she meant Mark and Val.
I agree about Jake. He is a really good contributor to the panel. I wonder if Serge thought he would be talking about Val’s win when he booked the show! He just came off as though he was wanting to make snide remarks about Alfonso and Sadie but was restraining himself. But not restraining his facial expressions enough so we would all know he felt an injustice was done to his friend Val. Thing is, until Val realizes it is not about him, he will never win. Maybe next season he will get a non ringer and actually show a range of emotions in his dancing.
I absolutely loved Anna’s comments about Maks and Tony, her comments are always unfiltered. I just don’t get why you should get a trophy because you don’t have one and have been here for so long.
I don’t think Mark was pissed, I agree with princess Heidi, I think Mark was more disappointed about the scoring from the season compared to the other couples, because if Sadie had been scored just like the others, i don’t think Mark would be that disappointed coming second to Alfonso. I also think that Mark is only disappointed for a matter of time, he knows how to pick him self up and continue. I mean after that zombie paso, he could have taken the no risks path with his choreography, because of the comments and feedback, but he knows what he stands for and likes and he’s gonna go with it.
All of them are very competitive, just because you’re a man doesn’t mean that you’re not allowed to be disappointed or to complain. They do put everything they have into this show, and when it’s not rewarded the way you tought you’ll definately be disapponted. Disappintment is good, it makes for really good motivation and a stronger and better comeback.
I think that if you take away Mark and Dereks choreography and creativity from the show, there isn’t a lot of amazing choreography and creativity from the orher male pros in my opiniom.
It was ok. Serge definitely does not like Bethany as a dancer that is for sure and his snide comment about enjoying a minute and a half of Derek’s time was just rude and a snipe to both Bethany and Derek. Bethany killed that routine and was front and center of the whole dance (not Derek). Derek did a great job of showcasing her strengths. I agree that she might not have made it as far with someone else (other than maybe Mark), but give both Derek and Bethany credit not only for Derek taking the time to teach Bethany to dance but to help bring her out of her shell and to start to become confident in herself as a dancer and performer in front of millions of people. No she is not a natural dancer, but she did a great job, better than I could ever do. Hey as a non dancer she came in fourth and Janel who is a trained dancer came in third so not to shabby. Bethany grew the most of anyone on the show as a dancer and performer.
Serge is a member of “la familia” so people need to start treating his opinion for what it is…irrelevant.
I loved Anna’s remarks about Tony & Maks’ wins!! And to see the look on Serge’s face! The guy was speechless (probably because he knew it was true).
Anyways, I’m a little disappointed in Mark’s behavior. I loved his choreo throughout the season (& hope he gets an Emmy nod), but his attitude & sportsmanship is really a turn-off. At least Sadie was a good sport, saying Alfonso was a deserving winner. I may not agree w/ most things her family believes in, but I will say they did a good job raising a sweet & polite girl. Maybe I’m wrong, but I didn’t even see Mark congratulating Witney or Alfonso @ the end of the show. He’s going on tour w/ them soon, so he better man up.
As for Anna saying Derek was one of the pros that was “pissed,” the only scenario I could see that to be true was about the production mishap in his & Bethany’s jive. But even then, he was quick to give his thanks to the crew! I don’t believe for one second that Derek would be “pissed” that Alfonso won & that Bethany didn’t. He’s always the 1st one to congratulate the winners & lift one of them up on his shoulders. That’s one of the reasons why I like & admire Derek so much. The “Derek Haters” who say he wins too much, gets all the best dancers/ringers, gets favored by the judges, or whatever else they say can whine about that all they want, but the one thing they cannot say is that Derek is a poor sport.
So I really hope Derek comes back next season. Without his positivity & sportmanship, it’s going to be too negative amongst the pros (with the exception of Emma & Witney), & I don’t think I can enjoy the show as much.
I originally thought she meant “Mark and Val” too but then someone corrected on YT saying, “no she said Derek was pissed not Val. You misheard” and Kristyn commented back: “LOLβ¦.people mishear us every week. Interpretations of our words are always so fascinating to me. I’ve just gotten used to it.” So I took that to mean that Anna was speaking of Derek. Who knows though.
The comment about Bethany not making it as far with another pro is just idiotic. What’s the point? EVERYONE’s season would have been different with a different pro. Furthermore, while it sounds at first hearing like a put down of Bethany, it’s not really about Bethany. If another pro couldn’t have gotten those performances from her, that’s on the pro. If Bethany wouldn’t have made it as far with, oh, say, Val, that says much more about Val than it does Bethany. I’m sure that Serge didn’t know that that’s what he actually said. In fact, what Serge said really puts the lie to the claim that Derek always gets good dancers. So thanks for that, Serge.
Speaking of Janel and Val, I would have really appreciated it if one of the judges had mentioned their Romeo and Juliet performance. I thought that was quite a beautiful dance. The freestyle just added a staircase. The other three couples presented something new, challenging. With the exception of Val’s impressive dead lift, this was all more of the same. Val really needs to get his act together. Mid season he changed his shtick and started spouting all the “right” comments, about the journey, happy being part of the show, blah blah blah. He doesn’t seem to realize that it’s not saying those things that’s important, it’s actually living that way that makes the difference. When they were announced 3rd, Val’s expression completely betrayed him by telling the truth about how he felt. I think it’s time for him to partner with a non-ringer. Maybe he’ll learn something.
Regarding the encore, it probably will pretty much always be the eliminated couple since those fans have no voting to do and can spend all their time on Twitter. And if the fusion challenge is not going to be competitive — meaning everyone will get all 10’s — they shouldn’t do it. It’s ridiculous for the couples, who are exhausted, to have to stay up and figure it all out when in the end it will be exactly the same result as if they hadn’t done it at all. I also think that it should be structured so that everyone’s freestyle can get votes that count, even if that means having a 3 couple final. Otherwise, the freestyle of the fourth couple has no bearing at all on the end result. I think if you do a freestyle, it should count towards the end result.
Oh yes, Anna got big bonus points with me for her comments about Maks and Tony. I’ve always liked her because thought she had big lady balls and she did not disappoint,
In regards to the encore they should just automatically make it the couple that placed 4th at this point. Here is my reasoning: 1) it will count as their performance on the finale 2)frees up room for one of the team dances.
I think she meant Val. You could tell Val was upset (and he always is) but Derek looked anything but upset.
If she really DID mean Derek, then she’s an idiot. She may hold a grudge, but I don’t think she’s THAT stupid.
I don’t think the twitter encore will “always” be the eliminated couple – James and Bethany are examples of people who have HUGE social media followings. If it had been Candace who had been fourth, I think James still would have won the freestyle.
Anna said Derek and Mark and then said Val and Mark in the next thought. That was a pretty obvious mess up that I am surprised no one corrected her for
@Suzy #28
I agree with your last 3 sentences.
” I also think that it should be structured so that everyoneβs freestyle can get votes that count, even if that means having a 3 couple final. Otherwise, the freestyle of the fourth couple has no bearing at all on the end result. I think if you do a freestyle, it should count towards the end result.”
What in the heck was Bethany’s Freestyle good for anyway? I’ve been asking myself. Since, last week’s(week 10) votes by the viewers counted against them before Week 11 even got underway. I have never liked this voting system since the last 3 seasons. The votes should count for that same week’s dances. I think the last 2 weeks should be the same. 2 nights for them to give the last 4 remaining a chance of having their Freestyle count. I just think the 4th runner up gets cheated.
What was it good for? Are you crazy? It was good for US to WATCH. It was entertainment. It was a great freestyle. I would rather see more freestyles than less. So what if it doesn’t count? Every week a couple does dances that don’t count.
No I’m not crazy, PHeidi, just using my right to express my opinion. I liked the show from Season 16 on back. I don’t like to see the couple I particularly like do a stunning dance and receive all 10’s only to be eliminated that night. I just prefer the original way the show was run. This is why I am not going to bother with voting next Season and just watch and not get so invested into it.
I hope Serge isn’t permanent next season because he’s about as entertaining as a sock
So much for good entertainment, eh? Perhaps you shouldn’t watch the show at all.
Megan, you don’t give socks enough credit π
I don’t mind that each couple in effect gets an extra week to perform even though they are technically already eliminated. I like 4 freestyles, at least this year when they were all so good. Why should the pair care, they get to go on another week, one more week of exposure, one more week of pay, one more week of the experience of dwts. I prefer this way of votes and scores all from a same week performance being what counts for the elimination rather than votes of one week and scores of the next week performance counting. I hated that.
Back to after buzz, I liked this episode. I expected after reading a few of the comments here to dislike what Serge had to offer. But he didn’t really bother me. I didn’t see it as dissing Bethany as to me, it’s no secret that the girl wasn’t a dancer or performer but Derek worked his magic in teaching and choreography and she improved so so much. I think he just pointed that out, that Derek knows how to create routines that people want to watch and that make his celeb look so good. That’s why he’s golden.
I wouldn’t expect less of any friend to give some kind of body language response to an overt criticism of their friend/family, even if it’s true, or maybe especially if it’s true and it hurts. If someone gave on overt dig at Mark for something and Derek was on the panel he’d find a way to defend his brother. So when Anna pointed out that on 2 seasons it was very much about 2 certain pros winning vs their celeb I wouldn’t expect Serge to sit there and happily nod his head.
To me it wasn’t a boring episode, just calmer with perhaps every one feeling the down feelings of a good season gone by. And no one taking over the show loudly with an angry agenda.
I appreciated Anna’s candid comments. (Will she ever get a front row in-studio seat again?) I also think based on her explanation, that she thought both Mark and Val were pissed. Maybe Derek was also annoyed because Sadie & Mark had not won. I noticed one moment on Monday’s show when Derek and Bethany did not get any 10’s for the jive re-do and Derek looked mad and said something like “not one 10?!” But then he moved on. He doesn’t seem the type to hold a grudge.
Hope no one – celebrity, pro or fan – truly regrets Alfonso and Witney’s win. It was their season though to my surprise, I enjoyed getting to know many of the cast members and their stories and dance journeys!
All very good points, Jess – especially the one more week of pay (for the pro in particular).
Yeah, PH, and especially this season when Beth was 4th, I’m SO glad they got to do a freestyle. When your boy moves on I’m going to miss his creative genius so much.
Your boy is not going to move on, PH! I sent a letter to Santa and he promised me that Derek would be back next season! Santa wouldn’t lie, would he?? π
You’re right though .. onto bigger and better things, I hope!
Santa can be telling the truth and Derek could still not be back with a partner. π Santa told ME that Derek would just do the anniversary episode and some Macy’s Stars of Dance.
I think your answer sounds more like it! That Santa, he’s a tricky guy! Let this be a lesson to you, boys and girls. Be very specific with Santa and your Christmas request! π
Well that’s an hour I’ll never get back. That had to be one of the most boring Afterbuzz yet.
I do feel bad for Mark and Derek, but I agree with Anna, just about everyone knew from Week 1 that Alfonso was going to win the MBT.
I agree with those who say that Anna clearly meant VAL and Mark, not Derek and Mark, having just watched the episode myself. She initially says Derek and Mark, but every sentence after that in that discussion, she says VAL and Mark. So, in the whole context of the conversation I think it’s obvious she meant Val and Mark.
Beside, everyone who knows anything about Derek knows that “mad” is the last thing he would be. Bummed out for his bro Mark? Sure – but not so much that he didn’t lift Witney onto his shoulders. And while we’re on that topic – why IS it always Derek? Where were the rest of the men? Where was Val?
PH Val and the rest of the fam had already retreated to that very dark place where any unfilled fam wish is grieved. Motto: “We’ll always have Zendaya.”
I always enjoyed Anna’s dancing, and agree with most of what she says on Afterbuzz. She was referring to Mark and Val’s showing their disappointment in the results of the show.
“Mad” is not in Derek’s vocabulary of emotions. I honor the great sportsmanship he has always portrayed. Val should have been right there with Derek to hoist Witney in the air as a means of congratulating her for taking her partner to the MBT; especially being that she is fairly new at Pro teaching a celebrate to dance. It would have show good sportsmanship and the viewers would be pleased and he would gain their respect.
Witney has sure surprised me with her talent both in dancing and choreography. I was just as happy for her as for Alfonso. I’m glad he is going on the road with DWTS Tour. I am hoping that all 4 finalists experience a career boost as a result of the recognition from DWTS. I do hope Witney is back in S-20.
Since the Afterbuzz crew were chatting about the All-stars I thought I would put this here.
Sherri Shepherd was on “The Talk” today and she stated that she would love to do DWTS again and be partnered with Val once again. Maybe she’s putting it out there in the hopes that there really may be another All-Star cast lineup after season 20. Gawd, I hope there isn’t.
Aww, Shirley Ballas-well I think she can pretty much forget ever being a judge on dwts-LOL
Not to complain but, its kind of tough for me to watch Afterbuzz because they always make Derek the center point and treat him as if he is the celebrity competing-LOL That makes no sense IMO!!
I did, however, appreciate Suri & Krystn speaking up about Bethany’s freestyle and how it related to her triumphing over being bullied. Why Anna couldn’t see how this dance related to Bethany is beyond me-lol π
TBH, I think when the competition gets to the freestyle round be it week 10 or week 11, the votes most definitely should count towards the end result. I find that very disappointing that they do not. IMO, its a rule that should be changed.
Anyhow, Bethany had an amazing season and she IMO showed the most improvement of all the contestants.
You all rock here at puredwts… π