Afterbuzz TV Reviews DWTS20 Week 3 With Mark Ballas: Let Us Know If You Agree Or Disagree?
Man, I was digging this new Afterbuzz TV show last night ….especially being Mark Ballas was a guest. He provided some cool “behind the scenes” information about the dancers and the show, getting his partners from A to B, how you can tell who is in it to win it every season, what it’s like having a gymnast for a partner, and more. Though, I have to say….I was disappointed at the end when he and Anna Trebunskaya went on about Henry Byalikov and what a great job he’s dong with Nastia Liukin. Hey, maybe Henry is doing a good job and that’s cool, but, let’s be REAL here! Anna said Henry has Nastia for “half the week” when that IS NOT TRUE! Henry only has Nastia for TWO days (Saturday and Sunday). It’s also not true that Henry is doing all the cleaning up, etc as Derek has been conversing with them on the weekend from New York City making sure everything is perfect. Yes, Henry may be a stand in for Derek on the weekend, but, he’s not doing it “all”. So for those on the Afterbuzz TV show and fans taking it in everything Anna says as if it’s “word”, think again. Also, Derek is doing ALL of the choreography HIMSELF. See this NEW “YOUNG HOLLYWOOD” rehearsal interview of last week’s rehearsals in New York City. This footage was filmed before Nastia went back to Los Angeles….doesn’t this say it all? Anyway, take a listen to the show below and let us know what you think. Yes, I’m wound up. 😐
Totally agree Vogue. I was loving the episode because Mark was such a fantastic guest till the end. What Mark said didn’t bother me, it was Anna. That girl certainly has something against Derek. It was so evident today.
Anna is an odd one. No clue what she has against Derek but I really hope he shows up for one of these at some point and schools them about what really is going on.
I totally agree with you #Ananya. What Mark said didn’t bother me at all, but what Anna said and the way she said it, She clearly isn’t the biggest Derek fan. And I’m not a fan of Anna either.
Not sure why so many folks are all over Stealth Douche (Henry’s) balls these days. Dude was a pro for one season, and he was first out. If he was worth his salt as a pro, he would be a pro…and lo and behold, he’s not. Just because he’s running through Nastia’s routine (and I do mean just “running through” – he is not contributing anything to the choreography, he is not helping with the costumes or set design, and he really isn’t doing that much critiquing – they’re videoing their rehearsals and sending the video to Derek for pointers) with her does not all of a sudden make him eligible to take half the credit for Nastia & Derek’s success. Lame, dude – and the fact that you’ve got all these other folks snowed into thinking you’re this phenom is just kind of pathetic. Deep Throat was laughing his/her ass off when I told him what kind of misinformation was being spread about Henry’s role in that partnership – and he/she confirmed that Henry is ONLY just practicing Nastia’s already-choreographed routine with her. Just go take some more selfies, dude.
And Anna? Already knew she had some serious bitterness issues where Derek was concerned, but she’s just coming across as a hag these days – let it go, honey. Bitching and moaning about him does not change history to get you & Evan the MBT.
I am totally done with ABTV. Anna should really get to the root of her problems before she passes this nasty trait onto her baby. You lost to Derek season 10 – Build a bridge and get over it! She talks out of many sides of her big mouth. On the first AllAccess show, she said she loves Derek and was so glad he was back because he pushes everybody to do creative choreography. Then she never misses a chance to downplay his talents. From the package, it was evident that Henry was looking at the video of the dance choreographed by DEREK. He was just practicing it with Nastia. I think they should get Sasha to work with Nastia. He’s a lot like Derek because he is very supportive of everyone. The troupe is there to help everyone; that’s what they are paid for. But, if it is so important to let everyone know what Henry is doing, why isn’t the choreography help being made public? Which pro is getting help putting the dance together? I’d rather know about that than who is practicing a routine that was already all choreographed by a real Emmy winning pro! There’s only one; probably because some of the other pros are getting help so they can’t be nominated.
Sorry for the rant but that poor excuse of a show just really ticked me off last night. Why is Nastia being nitpicked because she’s a gymnast? She has to unlearn her 20 year training and relearn movement for dance. I think that’s harder to do than someone learning how to dance for the first time. They aren’t going against 20 yr muscle memory. Rumer came out looking experienced from the first dance. Why aren’t they nitpicking her?
Sorry again for continuing the rant. It has been bugging me since last night!
I liked the show all the way til Anna started discrediting Derek. The afterbuzz may just lost a viewer. Loved Mark being on there. Had no problem with him. It was nice to hear a pros point of view who wont throw another pro under the bus. But Anna she comes off bitter towards Derek.
I always like when they have current pros on the show, because I think it keeps the hosts more focused on what they should be talking about rather than the random tangents they can go off on sometimes.
I think “fan wars” have jaded me into thinking that certain pros don’t like each other, though I’m sure they’re all closer to some than to others, that it’s nice to hear them give each other props for choreography, etc.
Honestly, Afterbuzz can’t afford Derek and Derek doesn’t have any spare time. Does he seem like the type to volunteer an hour of his time to talk about himself or discuss the pluses and minuses of other couples?? Getting that man to do media is probably like pulling teeth – I would hate to be his publicist.
You know what just occurred to me?? What if Henry is one of the pros choreographing for other pros? I wonder if that’s why Mark made that comment about Henry not getting enough credit – what if it had way less to do with Derek/Nastia than it did with the comments about pros choreographing for other pros who are competing?? Clearly, not Derek, Mark or Sharna…but what if he’s a lot more involved than we realized with some of the other pros? I generally think Louis is full of crap – but even full of crap people have grains of truth.
Just a thought. I haven’t watched AB yet and I don’t know if I’ll find the time, but I just thought I’d throw that out there.
Either way, he’s still stealth douche in my book.
#Princess Heidi
That’s a great point. And it does actually make a lot more sense as of why Mark might have made that comment. Never thought of it that way.
Can I just add that I loved the comment Mark made about walking in to the wrong studio and Robert standing there in his cuban heels practicing his arms alone in the mirror. He just seems like a person that really want to be there and is having a lot of fun.
Word…all of you!
I also thought it was uncool of Anna to criticize Riker for not looking more “man” like in this past week’s dance. Geez, he’s still growing into a man. I loved his dance this past week. I just don’t get her?
Kudos to Henry for helping out of course but certainly Derek is doing 99.9% of the work!! Nastia and Derek are alone in NYC doing there thing – Henry’s not even there. I think that’s as plain as the nose on my face!! What’s up with Anna? Bitterness never looked good on anyone!
I will say up front that I don’t have any favorite pro.
The only thing that Anna said was that Henry rehearses with her half the time. She never said anything about choreo, costumes, concepts, etc…..she is just harsh, period and so I don’t look to deeply as to what she says. She does seem to have a thing against Derek, but I have seen her poke at others pros as well. Not sure how she knows what’s really going on anyway seeing how she’s not there every day.
Mark did not say anything against Derek. He did give props to Henry about his work ethic, blah , blah, and the only thing he said in regards to Nastia’s was that he helps ” clean things up “. I thought nothing about what he said and I even went back and watched it again. As a current pro I thought he was fair, non-partial and had nothing but nice things to say. What was he supposed to say? I personally would have been bothered if he had gone on and on about the greatness of Derek.
Henry remark, “chemistry is built up through friction snd the less friction you have, you’re really not going to build much chemistry” . So what part of this isn’t true? For me it comes down to the fact that Derek chose him to rehearse with his celeb and at the end of the day if Derek trusts Henry, then there really is no issue. Unless the fans make it one.
Henry does love his ab selfies!
I liked Anna when she was competing on dwts and i think she is a lovely dancer but im not getting her on after buzz. I know comments are always made and some you will agree with and some you wont but although only three episodes in of after buzz but it doesnt have the same good feeling about it this season it feels bitchy which is sad. I think i will give it a miss.
Yeah but Jill…in my opinion Mark could have corrected Anna when she said that Henry was with Nastia half the week, etc. he didn’t and they went on as if Henry was doing everything. He did say a lot of nice things about Derek too though.
Er, Jill, no one is complaining about what Mark said – not sure why you’re so defensive of that.
As for the chemistry thing – how would you or Henry know about Derek and Nastia’s rehearsal time. That’s the point. He should just STFU – saying anything at all makes him look grasping. He’s basically implying that they have less chemistry – true or not true, saying such a thing makes him look like an ass.
And since we are viewers (ie. consumers) we can make any issue we please. This comment in itself adding to the “issue”, is it not? Don’t think you’re in a position to make such a statement.
Vog, like I said I take was she says with a grain of salt as she is critical in general. When she gets on one of her rants I just scroll through my Instagram and emails…
Going back to Henry, you have to admit what a hard job it is the stand in for Derek. I would think that’s a huge responsibility. Derek probably does not have a spare minute and so it would not surprise me if Henry met with costume and set designers. They need feedback ASAP and Derek can’t be reached. Would it be out if the realm of possibility that Henry would have to make some decisions to just move things along? Sure he would take pics and consult with Derek, but I would imagine that some of these decisions can’t wait. I think the guy deserves a little credit.
I’m more concerned about a certain celeb withholding dance competition experience.
I really hope the producers of dwts don’t keep Henry in Derek & Nastia’s rehearsal packages. To me Henry has the “Ick” factor. He makes me want to turn my TV off. The voting public might not want to vote for Derek & Nastia if they think she has two pros (even though we know better) helping her. I was considered a “hater” by afterbuzz and was blocked because I said I would not watch their show this season because of Anna and her backhanded complements. Funny how commentary is acceptable and not thought of as hate (even though Anna called Derek lazy) but disagreeing with someone is considered “hate”. Oh well, no big loss for me. Really stopped watching their show two season’s go but was always hoping they would change each season. I guess not. I LOVE this site. Always knowledgeable and fair with everyone. Thank you for a place to go without having fear of being labeled a hater 🙂
I have not watched any of ABTV this season. Just reading the comments, I don’t even want to hear what was said.
Did Derek choose Henry to rehearse with Nastia? I am curious as to how this arrangement was made.
I’m with everyone who doesn’t get Anna, especially regarding Derek. On the season premier’s All Access, she was all sweet to Derek and even proclaimed she loved it when he’s competing because he sets the bar for all other pros. Next thing, she was a lot less complimentary. I enjoyed her on Afterbuzz during seasons 16 & 17. But not anymore after that.
Courtney #4, please thank Deep Throat for me for clarifying Henry’s ACTUAL role in Nastia and Derek’s partnership. I applaud him for helping; just wish he’d be forthright about it. And thank you for sharing that tidbit with us.
Princess H # 9, makes me go “Hmmmmm…” Definitely food for thought.
PH . I got the idea from a sentence the opening paragraph of this post: “I was disappointed at the end when he and Anna Trebunskya went on about what a great job Henry was doing with Nastia
Lutkin. Was I incorrect to think that the ” he in the sentence was Mark? It made it sound like Mark said something wrong.
Also question was posed in the title ” Agree or Disagree” you asked and I answered.
I never said I knew anything about Derek and Nastia’s rehersal time. My statement was Anna’s and if you go back a read it you will see I said that I was curious how Anna would know anything about it seeing how she’s not there every day. I really don’t put too much stock into her opinions
I haven’t watched yet but I was expecting a heightened level of bile from Anna since she was booted off All Access in favor of Ema. Anna ts to be quite long-winded which is not a good trait for a commentator or interviewer.
As for chemistry, people can have it from moment they meet, before there is any “friction” whatsoever. Definitely felt Henry was throwing shade. Hate the shrug.
And if Anna called Derek lazy that should end any credibility she has and she should be escorted from the studio.
I agree with a lot. Derek does the choreographie and is the man who trains Nastia. Henry helps out when Derek can’t. Anna seems to be bitter at times, just like Louis. I kind of like everyone but Louis is getting to me with his constant reminding us of “what he did for Kelly Osbourne” (gee, it has happend numerous times with numerous people) and now his accusations about choreographing or not. He either shall spit it out who he is talking about ao just leave it. I for once would like to know it all or nothing at all. Now all all remarks lead to more speculation.
Henry surely wants to be back as a pro and so he needs every bit of limelight he can get. Which is okay, if it is not on somebody else’s cost. We all know this show is heavily produced. So Nastia and Derek’s story right now is the travel and the change in partners. It is the choice of producers what they put in the package.
I am sure Derek trusts Henry and does not mind any of this. There is no negativity towards Derek, just a bit of attention for Henry. He might even be able to cut back on the selfies 😉
Personally, I think TPTB have decided that “chemistry” and “workload” is going to be Nastia and Derek’s story arc this season. So I wouldn’t be surprised if Henry’s just playing along.
No one in the comments to the post are complaining about Mark though. And being disappointed is not really thinking Mark did something wrong – it’s more about wishing it hadn’t gone on.
You answered, you then lectured us about how “fans make it one” – that’s pretty much my issue in a nut shell. It’s condescending.
PH, I also wonder if Henry is helping with Artem. Patti’s routines this season are so different than Lea’s – and through Louis’s little hints, I’m pretty sure he’s accusing Artem of using outside help. So I wonder if this whole “Henry doesn’t get the credit he deserves” train is about that. Not to give credence to LVA’s smear tactics – but it does make me wonder.
Jill, I think it is actually out of the realm. Derek decides the costuming on Monday nights after the show – that’s how it’s always been done. After that, it’s fittings. As our source said, Henry runs through the routine, then sends video to Derek, who then responds with his critiques via video. Why you think costuming would be any different is a mystery to me.
Henry has gotten his little credit by grabbing it. Problem is, he seems to want a lot more than he deserves. “MY little samba queen?” Oh really.
I agree Figamentation with the story arc seemingly being decided by TPTB. Just hope that doesn’t cause people to think there always is no chemistry even as it improves each week.
I enjoyed Mark so much…lots of inside scoop on the show, his past partners, and he was so positive while also having constructive criticism that didn’t come off at all rude or insulting like how Anna often sounds. Also didn’t feel like he was on there just to promote him and Willow. Great guest guys! If more pros can come across this way, I don’t mind having current pros still in the competition still on as guests. In the past, there always seemed to be an agenda when the pros were on that were still in the competition.
Many were not that impressed with Bethany at this point last season and she grew into quite a good dancer and performer by then end. So I’m definitely enjoying them already but also looking forward to Nastia’s growth in different ways through the season.
For those who are unwilling to watch due to Anna, I wish you’d change your mind. I’d even be willing to watch it again and tell you the markers where she speaks so you can FF. It was really interesting getting to hear about behind the scenes.
Loved how positive Mark was toward all of the stars including Charlotte. He gave her the benefit of the doubt, and explained what could have gone wrong. He sounds like he is a fan of all of the stars. He was very positive toward the pros too.
He gave a great explanation of just how difficult it is to instruct a gymnast by giving examples from Shawn and Ally. There are a lot of bad habits to break. His explanation really just makes me respect and love Nastia and Derek even more. The comments about Shawn were pretty funny too.
He did talk some about Willow, but not overly. I was most impressed when he compared her work ethic and power to Shawn and Kristi.
If you haven’t watched it please do. I really would be willing to write down when Anna speaks so you can mute her.
Oh and Darvina is a cutie.
I love Mark and it was so cool to see him in Afterbuzz! He is such a nice person. I love how, when he speaks, his accent changes btwn “American” and “English”!
I also think that having another professional, who is as qualified as Anna helped in making her comments, for the most part, less bitter and straight negative. But of course, she always needs to find a way to say something about Derek. I stopped giving credit to anything she sais a long time ago. If you compare her comments from all access with her online behavior and her afterbuzz comments it has become very clear to me that she is very bitter and a hypocrite many times. I really think she needs to let all that negativity go.
It was good to hear Mark’s comments and see how he understands the show, and that not everyone can be judged as a professional dancer and that everyone’s purpose in the show is different. That, for me, is one of the best things of this show. Her trying to always be so technical and critical (of course of the people she does not like) just shows me that she does not understand the show. (And maybe that’s why she is not in it anymore).
As for Henry and Derek- I really don’t care much. Derek has proved to be one of the masterminds of dance in our generation and this show (along with some of the other pros) and I don’t think he getting help from anyone takes anything from who he has proved over and over again that he can be as a teacher/choreographer. Thanks to Henry for helping, he is clearly an important part of the process, but that is what it is, help.
I hope they last to the end (which I think they definitely will) because I believe the last 3 or so weeks the NYSS will be over. Just in time for D to do his magic for the finals without having to deal with this conversation about “how much has Henry done?”
Don’t stop watching AfterBuzz just bombard them with complaints about Anna 🙂
I thought it was common knowledge that Henry (and the rest of the troupe for that matter) help all the other pros when needed. Henry was helping choreograph Michael’s foxtrot with Peta on the live stream a couple of weeks back. No wonder he’s respected by every pro on the show. I don’t really have an opinion on his role with Nastia and Derek but I do have an opinion on his shirtless selfies. Cringeworthy!
Mark was a great guest and the idea of a livestream in pro rehearsals is a great idea. Make it happen producers. Some pro dancers are quite reserved when they come on the show but Mark was loving it. Had a detailed opinion on everyone and it was interesting to hear how he comes up with his routines. It’s a shame he probably won’t be able to do the show again for god knows how long.
NYSS finishes on the Sunday before the quarterfinals, so Derek will be with Nastia full time for the Semifinals(week 9) and Finals(week 10). No Henry needed. I think it’ll be just 1 week where they have to worry about 2 full dances, which is the quarterfinals.
Week 4 – Most Memorable year
Week 5 – Disney
Week 6 – Switch Up
Week 7 – Team Dances
Week 8 – Quarterfinals.
This seems like the plan, and I’m confident Derek can work around it.
Of course if Houghkin wins, some haters will demand a trophy for Henry as well, but they lost their minds a long time ago. They’d also buy that Henry helped Derek win his other 5 MBT and his Emmy.
PH. it want meant to condescending . Sorry of you took it that way.
Not sure why my opinion about Mark is an issue? It wasn’t directed towarded anyone, and if anything it was positive and supportive.
I never said he DESIGNED the costumes or sets ( just throwing out random examples), just saying that if there was an urgent problem or if Henry saw something in rehearsals or production that was a concern he would have no right to say anything or offer any feedback? Sorry I disagree and I think Derek is the kind of person that would listen if Henry came to him with an opinion or concern.
My problem may be is that I only get my info from this site, so I may have missed some Henry quotes. I stay away from FB, DWTS blog, and Twitter and I like it that way. Too many crazies and drama for me. Here you gets the facts without all the showmsnce, fanfic crap!
Thanks for responding. I may not always agree with you, but I do respect what you have to say.
I LOVED this episode, Mark was such an informative and positive addition. This is the best show for Suri too. I just don’t listen to Anna anymore, or I listen with filter knowing she’s going to throw shade on a lot of the female pros who are there instead of her, and on Derek, and to be fair, she was very hard on Maks season 18.
So, since I don’t really listen to her I didn’t hear her call Derek lazy. WHAT? (as in wtf!)
As far as costumes, I think Derek has FAR more ability to communicate with a team of people he’s been working with season after season than Henry who had one week as a pro. Derek and wardrobe probably have a short hand type communication going, doesn’t take that much work for them at this point, they know what he likes, he knows what they can do, BAM, get it done no heming and hawing.
I think Henry deserves some credit, AND I think he IS getting plenty. Clearly having someone so trained run through her dances is far better than having someone not so talented run through them with her. I wish I knew the content of what he said to Vogue that helped you mods learn how douchy he is. Also, the constant shirtless selfies always remind me of a certain president from someones country of origin, the strutting around shirtless for photo ops.
I appreciate the offer, Dee2, but my thing really is TIME. As in, finding some. 🙂
M8 – we’re referring to the comments that Louis made about some pros not doing their own choreography. As much as I hate to give it much weight, it makes one wonder if Henry is doing more than just “helping” with some of the choreography of some of the pros.
While I don’t actually have a problem with that, what I do have a problem with is keeping that activity a secret while putting Henry in the Nastia/Derek rehearsal on blast. Smacks of yet another agenda in the heavy handed production of this show.
I think the “lazy” comment was actually last week, Jess.
Oh, last week or this week, bad on her. Lazy didn’t get him where he is today.
Princess Heidi – No problem. I understand the time issue. I took off for spring break this week so I have some extra time.
When Mark was talking about how Charlotte probably messed up her routine because of watching her package before dancing, I couldn’t help but think what a powerful tool it is to either help or hinder someone. I can’t image standing in front of a giant screen watching a really negative clip about me from the week and then going out and dancing. I wonder if the producers ever use it for that purpose. I see no reason for having the dancers watch the packages just before dancing.
I really enjoyed hearing Mark’s comments, it is good to hear from a Pro’s prospective.
Not sure he was giving Henry anymore credit than he deserves.
Did not care for Anna’s comments about Riker, he is not a dancer and is young for heaven’s sake. He has a great attitude and is putting in the work, and doing well.
Because of Derek’s time schedule and flight schedule, I thought it was smart to have someone ready in case he had a flight issue. I did not see Henry as the do all and savior.
Derek is doing all the work, it is smart to have a back up plan.
M8. There seems to a lot of helping going on. Henry was working on the choreo with Alen and Shasa for the opening segment where they all danced in Michael and Peta ‘s foxtrot, Val also danced the jive with Redfoo (hilarious) and Artem was helping Chris with the cha cha cha counts he struggled with. Peta asked Val’s opinion about Michael’s New Yorker and you could she was getting spotting help when Michael was learning the lifts. I enjoy the live streams and seeing the pros help each other.
I would love to see live streams of the troupe rehearsals!
I also think that anyone even the least bit familiar with Derek would realize there is no way in heck he is letting Henry make any decisions in regards to his routines, not even costuming. That’s not how Derek works. Yes he is always shown as taking advice and suggestions when tasked with a group situation such as the trio dances but in this situation it’s just not going to happen. If Derek said he could handle being a pro this season and he committed to this with Nastia then he is not going to half-ass it and let someone else do his job. That is just not how he operates.
I have to wonder if Anna is slinging her crap because even in three days with a full show schedule Derek is choreographing and performing routines she couldn’t put out in two weeks uninterrupted(catty, but truth, sorry).
I’ve watched AfterBuzz’s discussion of DWTS religiously for the last couple of years. In my opinion, Mark Ballas is one of the best guests they’ve ever had. As has been said by others, he was insightful but fair, and had only good things to say about others.
For me, though, there was a big elephant in the room, and that was a lack of discussion about Bruno Tonioli’s insulting and sexist comment to Charlotte McKinney. I’m guessing that neither Mark nor any other pro (or wannabe pro) feels free to criticize one of the judges in a public form like this. Even though it’ll be old news in a week or so, I’d like to hear the AB moderators’ take on what was said. (And kudos to Tom Bergeron for his “neither will you” quip!)
Carol, Mark was asked in a pap video about Bruno’s comment and said that he actually did not hear it as he was busy at the time so couldn’t comment on it. Sasha commented on it saying that “every person has their own way of thinking and it’s just how they think” or something along those lines basically saying, “he wasn’t going to comment on how Bruno thinks”. The only other pros I’ve seen talking about it were Derek and Witney. Derek was on All Access right after it happened and looked very surprised and hurt for Charlotte and said “that wasn’t nice” and Witney basically said the same thing when asked.
I don’t think there is too much the pros can really say on it other than it wasn’t nice and they don’t agree with the sentiment.
I liked this week’s show for the most part. I loved Mark’s insights. He was one of, if not the, best guests they’ve ever had. I did think the going-on about Henry was a bit over the top. I understand he is helping Nastia & Derek in some ways, but if you’re going to talk about Henry like that, what about the other troupe members and all they do for the show? I understand Henry has a more defined role with one of the contestants. But I still think it’s unfair because all of the troupe (specifically Sasha) seem down to do whatever to make sure the show is the best and most entertaining without getting much credit for it. To me, it seems like in over-inflating the role of Henry, not only does that do a disservice to Derek but to the other troupe members as well. Kind of like saying “Oh Henry was ONLY in the troupe before, but now he’s really doing a lot of work.” Seems like an indirect slam on the troupe.
With all of this, it just seems like such a non-issue to me. I remember in season 13, Maks hurt his toe or something, and Teddy rehearsed with Hope. Heck, Edyta danced with Cody for 2 weeks while Julianne recovered from surgery, and Maks danced with Joanna one week I believe. And I remember a few other examples of these types of things over the years. It wasn’t a big deal to me then, and it’s not a big deal now.
Moreover, Michelle, when all the pros are in a group/team situation, they defer to Derek. That says a lot.
Derek’s face after that comment was not good. He hadn’t heard it either and had to be told. He said the energy in the room went south very quickly, which was why he was asking what was said.
Exactly PH. Even if Derek’s partner is not the captain he is still the one shown doing most of the creating and choreographing in the team dances. I honestly think it’s laughable if anyone thinks Henry is doing anything without Derek’s direction. That’s not saying that Derek doesn’t have faith in Henry or that Henry could not be helpful in that regard, it’s just that Derek is not going to slack off his responsibility to his partner to another pro, nor would he ever take credit for another person’s work. If Henry was choreographing or doing anything more than just helping out with rehearsal and camera blocking then Derek would say so outright. However, he has said the opposite in not so many words.
I noticed Henry on Twitter thanking Mark and Afterbuzz for the “love and support”. It seems he is really just to play up that he is getting crapped on by the Golden Boy. Or maybe he just reads that way to me. He can’t honestly think anyone would believe that he is doing any of the choreography or creating can he? Taking away the inconceivable notion that Derek would ever allow another to do his job there’s the fact that these routines all have the mark of Derek all over them. There is no confusing Derek’s choreography with Henry’s. Sorry but no way in hell dude is that even possible.
Thought this was the best AB episode this season. Mark’s behind-the-scenes comments were great. He’s got nothing but love for everybody and I’d like to see more features on pro rehearsals, costuming, makeup/hair, etc. Always thought Carson Kressley would be great hosting behind the scenes. It was interesting to hear them discuss exactly what gymnasts bring to the ballroom and how they have to adapt. Also loved that Mark prizes the friendships he’s made with Sadie, Shawn, Kristi and others. Talented and classy guy!
# Courtney love what you said straight up and to the point. I needed a laugh today and you gave me that. I was actually thinking the same thing about why Henry was never asked back as a pro. If he’s so good doesn’t this just happen? (sorry a bit sarcastic). I’m tired about hearing about this, can’t people move on, there must other pressing news.
I didn’t listen to the show as I am tired of the negativity towards Derek except for Suri and Jake.
Ok, why can’t Sasha be a stand in? I don’t know how much more credit these people want for Henry. Derek and Nastia said on IG how much they appreciate Henry. In a subtle way Derek even show how he text back and forth to Nastia and Henry what he wants choreo wise (seemed to me even cleans things up). I don’t know why some of the c-bros fans making it such a big deal. What do they want Derek do to Henry? Kneel in front of him and wash his feet? Announce a “thank you”on Times Square? Some even saying Henry should be the pro for Nastia instead of Derek? Really? Laughable and unbelievable. Sorry for being so upset.
@Sharon1 – Hehe, glad I could help 🙂 I’m just baffled as to why it’s all of a sudden “Poor Henry, he never gets any credit!” It’s not like anyone acted that enamored of the guy the past few seasons – my guess it has less to do with making Henry look good, and more to do with just trying to make Derek look bad. Heidi may be onto something, thinking that Henry is one of these mysterious pros that Louis is insinuating have been do other pros’ choreo for them, but I highly doubt it’s Derek that needs his help. But you know that some will glom onto just about anything bad about Derek and run with it, whether it’s true or not.
PH if that’s the case then Henry deserves all the credit, no doubt. Henry is a PHENOMINAL choreographer, and he deserves to be a Pro, because Nastia has been killing it out there! Good job Henry!
It was dereks choreography it had all his trademark moves all over it- if those chermoskys fans with no brains can’t see that then the have no eyes. Derek has his stamp on eve thing he does and that’s why I love him. He has a different unique set of moves that no other pro can do the way he does them.
Wow, Lydia – way to completely misrepresent the conversation. Nastia is killing it out there because of DEREK, not Henry. Henry is little helper boy. As for him being a phenomenal choreographer – how the hell would we know that?
PH If Henry did choreograph that samba, he’s amazing!! I think I must’ve misunderstood you.
Some people just want to hear what they want to hear or read. Very selective on how they want to interpret things. LOL.
Thiana did you not read that I said I misunderstood?
I really enjoyed Mark on AfterBuzz. Great insight and analysis from him, and he was so positive about everyone. The inside scoop was fun.
@ Thiana I so agree, why can’t Sasha be the helper. I know if that were the case, there would be none of these issues.
sorry.. I wanted to add that I think Henry is making the move from stealth dbag to full fledged front & center dbag. JMO
You most certainly did misunderstand me. Every single comment on this post has made a point of saying that Henry DOES NOT choreograph for Derek. How you missed that, I don’t know.
#59. Lydia, I didn’t mean that for you. I checked on my IG and wrote here. Just so happened it came right after you. No need to be stressed.
I just wish that when someone has the opportunity to sit down with a pro for an extended period of time (like afterbuzz did with Mark) that they would have the balls to just raise the issue of the “war between the pros” that is constantly harped on by their respective fans to see what the pros themselves have to say. I don’t doubt for a second that there is professional jealousy (especially toward Derek in light of his clear talent and success and by former pros who have lost their spots.) When the pros are together (irrespective of the mix), however, they always seem to be having a great time and they seem to be supportive of each other. It makes me wonder how much of this is real and how much of it is just manufactured by fans on all sides jumping on every comment and trying to stir the pot and create drama.
I’m sure they do get along splendidly, Jean. They probably claim to all be friends. Maybe they ARE all friends. But I’m not sure that’s necessarily better, particularly if you’re Derek and you have Maks/Val (or their DWM account which they are responsible for) making snide comments and Anna being nice to his face and a total beyotch behind his back. Many of those comments are NOT open to interpretation – one only had to be online when Kellie beat Zendaya to see some true colors come out.
Maybe Derek is above it all. But man, I’d be pissed if people were throwing shade behind my back and then being all sweet to my face.
Afterbuzz is NEVER going to bring up a subject to a pro or challenge any of their guests who come on their show. (Yes, that was a challenge. 🙂 ) I don’t actually blame them too much – they want people to keep coming back as guests and if uncomfortable subjects get brought up, they won’t. That’s the downside of that being your income – you are pretty limited. Can’t piss too many people off. Only Derek fans. 🙂
It’s become evident to me listening to Anna on Afterbuzz why I always considered her to be the weakest female pro on the show. She’s so unfocused and I don’t think she brings much insight. I can understand why she’s bitter but she has no one to blame but herself. She got her one chance with Evan and completely bombed the freestyle and the show downgraded her with bad celeb partners ever since.
I loved how Mark set her straight after she went on and on ad nauseum critiquing Suzanne Somers on technique as if a 68 year old dancing with a fruit basket on her head to Copacabana is really gives a damn about technique in the first place.
All good points PH. It is just all such a shame because it is such a great show and it would be so nice to just be able to enjoy it. Pipe dream I know. Thanks for the comment.
Losing respect for Anna and never had any for Henry. He is so desperate in case his shirtless selfies were not a hint. He could just shut people up and not egg them on but he wants it. Saying my samba queen says something. That isn’t being supportive. While he is talented, if he is not underrated. A few loud online fans is not indicative of huge support either.
Fine it funny Anna RT someone questioning Riker’s experience but nothing about Rumer’s performance and training.
I stopped giving Afterbuzz ratings and all bc that is what counts. KB seems to be clearly catering to a specific fan base too. She ignores any comment that calls Anna and their bias out.
I noticed Mark kept interrupting Anna’s repeated comment about how Riker needs to dance like a man. He clearly thought she was full of BS. I also wonder if when he said Henry deserves more credit he meant overall, not just because of Nastia. I believe PH touched on this, but he may do choreography for others that he can’t claim credit for. With Nastia he found a way since camera blocking is of a more public nature and Nastia opened the door by thanking him. Too bad he took her kindness too far.
I didn’t watch the entire AB episode, but of the sections I did see, I thought Suri did a good job, actually better than KB lately.
This was the icing on the cake for me! Mark has steadily grown on me over the seasons and watching him on AB sealed for me. I have always enjoyed his parents on AB but he was even better than them. His English/American “accent” it so adorable. I really enjoyed the discussions between him and Anna (minus the Henry bit of course). Wish Kristin was there instead of Suri–she just erks me for some reason.
Side note keep seeing comments about how young Riker is–thought he was 23? Not that that’s old by any means just not an age that I think the “well he’s young” thinking connects especially when teens have become a regular occurrence on the show.
In Louis’ week 2 blog, he writes that it’s not fair for pros to get praise from the judges for their choreo when, in fact, they do not do it all themselves. Now, the only pros I could think of that get consistent praise from the judges about choreo the last few seasons is Val & Mark. Mark – I do believe he comes up w/ his choreo. But Val? I don’t know. I think he gets (a lot of) help from other pros/choreographers.
A couple years ago on Afterbuzz (I think it was from season 17), I remember how it was mentioned that Val called Sharna his “muse,” & I read somewhere (was it here?) that Sharna may be helping Val come up w/ concepts for his dances. Henry & Val are also good friends. Now, Mandy Moore is a producer whose job it is to help all the pros “fill in the blanks,” or whatever she said on ABTV last season. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Val, all of a sudden, is able to choreograph these super-creative, highly thought out routines on his own. During his season w/ Zendaya, their dances were mostly the type of routines you would see in a ballroom competition – nothing super creative, out-of-the box, or pushing the boundaries of what traditional ballroom dances are perceived as. And I think that’s more his style. I think he’s a ballroom purist at heart, & all the modern dance/progressive stuff is too out of his realm, so he needs help making his routines look creative & amazing. Some examples: Elizabeth’s cello AT, Danica’s Beauty & Beast Quickstep, Danica’s Lourde Tango, Janel’s Romeo & Juliet Contemporary, Janel’s PLL “window-washing” Waltz, Janel’s Freestyle. If you compare the choreography from Zendaya’s to these dances, there are (IMO) huge differences in terms of creativity, production, story-line, etc.
As for Derek & Mark, they’ve been on the show for a long time & I think we’ve seen a natural progression of them choreographing from traditional to more progressive/fusion ballroom routines. I don’t think they need a whole lot of help coming up w/ creative & forward-thinking concepts for their dances on their own, so they should be exempt from Louis’ accusation. As for Val, I don’t think he deserves all the praise he’s been getting for his choreo – I think he’s been getting a lot of help, & that certain people have been hired to help him become the “next Derek Hough” once Derek leaves the show.
Sorry for the long post.
Jane it’s been noted by several people on the show including sharna herself that val does his own choreo. But your right about Val being a Latin purist at heart, and I think it took a season like zendaya and him losing, to realize that dwts isn’t blackpool & creating the purist technical cha cha isnt the end all. It’s been cool watching his choreo expand.
Interesting theory, Jane, and you could be right. However, I don’t think any of Val’s dances are particularly memorable or “out-of-the-box” or massively creative (that AT with Meryl was awesome, though) – but then, I don’t care for Mandy Moore’s work on this show either, so there you go. 🙂 She seems like a very nice person, don’t get me wrong, but I think she’s highly over rated when it comes to choreo. The only thing memorable from last season was that all female Beyonce dance – and even that was chest pumps and other things you expect from the women choreographers on this show. She may get a nomination for it, but I would never expect to see “the box” or even that lovely dance that Derek and Chris Scott did a couple seasons ago, from her.
yea I find Mandy Moore so overrated. There are far better choreographers on SYTYCD.
Kim, speaking of age…
Michael Sam just tuned 25 in Janauary and Riker will be 24 in November, yet no one remarks about Michael being young. Riker LOOKS younger and Michael’s size is imposing. so maybe that’s why they say that about Riker. He is tall and very slender which could be why he’s getting those feminine comments. I have seen both their live steams and they both still have some boy goofiness in them. Both my boys are their age and it sneaks out in them every so often.
Now fanbase-wise, Riker’s is MUCH younger.
Anna’s hair up her behind about Derek gets old and I listened a couple of timse to AB last season and that was enough. I’m glad I didn’t listen to any this season. By the looks of these posts, I would have been more disgusted with Anna’s comments concerning Derek. I just don’t see why all the hype about Henry practicing with Nastia. People are just down right “jealous” of DWTS’s LIVING LEGEND and have to nit-pick him apart, and tell lies or half-truths. I made up my mind not to read their garbage. I understand clearly that Nastia is just practicing what Derek puts together with her in NYC. Jealousy is such an “ugly” thing to possess and it does not create anything good in a person’s life.
I am enjoying quite a few of the couples this season; but for me, Nastic has been getting all my votes. She’s beautiful, in every sense of the word, and I’m glad she hasn’t felt the need to mark her body up with tattoos and body piercing. Nastia is doing some awesome dancing and working hard at getting away from the gymnastic mold of which her body was accustomed. I can’t wait to she her A.T. Monday.
Quite frankly, Riker isn’t the only one who is being coy about previous experience. A daughter of Demi Moore is going to be put in dance classes and acting classes. To think that one of her daughters can come out on the dance floor (having no experience what-so-ever) and dance like she did Premier Night is really hard for me to swallow, and that’s why Val didn’t want the viewers to see how good she was before premier night. And, if people were listening carefully to the interviews in another thread here, Rumer gave herself away. When she was asked how she likes dancing she said, “I love dancing and love being on DWTS and dancing.” Val looked at her like he was concerned about what she just said the way she worded her comment. No one will convince me she has never, ever done any dancing. She even showed Val some of her mother’s dancing moves.
Can I just say how much I love Mark Ballas in this AB video? I learned so much about the show, the judging process, his celebrities’ journey, his inspirations and what he personally enjoys about the show as a pro. His comments were so interesting and insightful. If you are reading this Mark, thank you, and I hope you can do another AB show! You were great! Also, Mark, I think you are a phenomenal dancer! As for Anna, she just gives me a negative vibe (don’t know if it is sour grapes or what), despite the fact that I totally loved her as a dancer on the show, especially in that waltz that Mark mentioned, and her dance (Paso?) with Derek. I just fast-forward her comments, as a rule, so I don’t have to listen to them. As far as Nastia & Derek’s Samba, I thought the panel was a bit stingy with their praise, and gave way too many props to Henry. Since Derek is doing literally a superhuman job taking on both DWTS and NYSS, I thought that would be worth at least a major compliment, but I guess not. AB acts like the unrivaled and mega-talented Derek is just la-di-da, so-so, and equal to any number of the other DWTS pros, rather than appreciating the fact that this guy is a once in a generation phenomenon, and I think should be recognized as such by AB….ha, ha, now that would be something!! Anna would probably have a fit.
I can’t stand listening to videos for any longer than a few minutes – my attention span is quite short – but based on the comments here and my enormous respect and appreciation for Mark, I’m going to actually give it a go. So great job selling me on it, guys! 🙂
In terms of Derek’s godliness or “living legend” status, I think it’s a bit unfair to question why they aren’t fawning all over him. I love Derek, and I think he’s great and definitely found a way to be enormously successful on the show while developing his creativity, but these are his friends and colleagues, peers and competition – I’d think it’d be weird if everyone always gave him a tongue bath. Not that they shouldn’t acknowledge him or endorse his great qualities – but living legend might be taking it a bit far, at least in terms of how they perceive or talk about him. Just my take on it.
I’m not American but I am a fan of US DWTS since season 8. Because of the olympics I looked up Shawn Johnson and some of her gymnastics and then I saw Shawn’s and Mark’s Quickstep, since then I am hooked. I rewatched all previous Seasons and pretty much every dance on dwts for several times (like really a lot of times).
My point, you can see the progression of the longtime pros and you can see their styles and their individual collection of moves and steps. A Jive from Mark looks completley diffrent then a Jive choreographed by Derek.
I think that with pros like Derek, Mark, Karina, Cheryl, Kym and even Tony, you can see their learning curve in every aspect of a routine (steps, staging, costumes, music, camera, lights) but it’s still their style and it feels to me like it was a learning process.
But since season 18 it kinda feels different to me. Maks’s dances suddenly felt different to me, not the steps more like timing, gimmicks, themes, the troupe parts, that kinda stuff. Same with Val. And since when is Tony that creative?
Or for example Witney and Allison. They are pretty new to dwts, but it feels to me like problems other pros had in the beginning, they are not really having. I do not have any prove or anything I’m just having the feeling that Mandy Moore is way more involved in some of the pros routines then we think.
It’s really hard for me to describe but it feels like the dynamic of the routines are different.
Another example: Derek had to choreograph two people for hist first freestyle, over the seasons he progressed and when he was allowed to add other dancers you can see those are his moves and the progression of choreographing for more then two people (group dances and freestyles).
How the heck could Witney do all that in her first freestyle?
I think that’s what Louis is referring to.
PS: I’m just asuming, I have no prove of anything, feel free to correct me.
artdeco, it sounds like you’re talking more about production value than you are choreo – like extra dancers, flourishes, etc. That’s definitely what Mandy is there for, although I think Derek, and probably Mark, were already heavily involved in the production of their dances long before Mandy came around. Derek used to work with the orchestra to get the music the way he wanted it, and even with the camera people to make sure it was shot the way he wanted it. He was heavily involved in every aspect of the dance. Perhaps TPTB brought Mandy in to help those pros who didn’t have the ability to do those things.
And maybe she is doing some choreo for those pros you mention. I do wish she would eliminate the Chmerkovskiy need to have extensive walking in every. single. routine. That is as noticeable a trait as Derek’s crotch bob thing that he puts in some of his latin dances.
Yeah the production value for some pros have gotten significantly better, but their choreography hasn’t necessarily evolved alongside it. Maybe for the general audience they can be “fooled” into believing that Tony’s a better choreographer, but I know what my eyes see and it’s a lot of the same crap he’s always done.
Didn’t Val get help with the freestyle from Mandy last season?
Yeah, they all get help nowadays IMO. If Louis was on the show, he would have gotten help as well.
Jen,
some people rumored it was val. Dwtsgossip said that someone was getting help from 6 pros & Mandy for their freestyle. If any freestyle seemed to fit that profile, sounds like Witney to me
@eliza – Doubt it was Witney. From what I heard from DT, a lot of the choreography credit for that freestyle actually goes to Alfonso – he contributed quite a lot.
Fig, I was thinking the same thing. Even though Mark and Derek are friends, at the end of the day their celebs are competing against each other, so really what was he supposed to say? He could have said something about rehearsal time with Henry, but maybe instead of getting into it with Anna, he just let it go. He is busy with his own celeb.
The other commentators I noticed were a little more diplomatic and cautious in how/ what they said this episode. Mark did most of the talking which kept Anna quieter than normal and she wasn’t even on last week.
About the general audience bring fooled, you’re right. I know ZERO about dancing, except for some ballet, and I just like who I get good vibes from or who’s story moves me. I not necessarily fooled, is that I really don’t care. For instance Willow and Nastia do absolutely nothing for me – zip, even though I like Derek and Mark. Not really a Peta fan, but love Michael’s story, love Noahs story.
How many people watching are dancers and know what to look for? My bet is that they’re more like me.
Princess Heidi I don’t mean probs necessarily more like transitions and fluidity, little winks into the camera and sometimes parts of choreo better suited to the music, which in the past to me was lacking except for Derek. Other pros even Mark have had ‘hiccups’ way more often then now.
The steps are pretty much the same, but in my opinion those little things make the audiance go wow or not. I’m sorry it’s really hard to describe for me cause I myself can’t really put my finger on it.
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Just finished watching Afterbuzz and i gotta say…I’m thinking that Henry does probably do a substantial part of the cleaning. And UNFORTUNATELY it shows. While i’m sure Henry is a “trouper” for stepping up and helping with things that are needed for the show, i think his inexperience as a PRO shows. What i’ve always noticed about Derek is that he is one of the few if not only Pro who handles the entire DWTS process from start to end. He designs the costumes, he produces super creative choreo, he cleans the dance, he is involved in the staging/lighting/music…the whole package. Other pros need someone like Mandy Moore to take control for them. But one of the things consistent across EVERY ONE of Derek’s partners is their “finish” in their dance. What i mean by that is that their movements are clean/crisp and not sloppy. Even partners that were not the best dancers (Joana, Maria, Bethany) had very clean dances. We all know Derek likes things done a certain way and will drill it until it becomes that way.
Looooong winded way of saying…I thought that was missing in Nastia’s samba. It lacked the Derek Hough finishing touch. He would have been able to fix the over flexibility of her back and the hyperextension of her limbs had he had the time. So…while kudos to Henry for stepping in … i think Anna’s is giving Henry TOO much credit for Nastia’s success. What i think this really shows is Derek’s ability to work with all the challenges he’s given ..and still give a GREAT show.
Welcome Lisa.
I think it’s going to take a lot longer for Derek to break Nastia of that hyperextension, regardless of how much time he has. Nastia’s movements and quality of movement have been drilled into her since she was very young. She’s what? 24 now? So you’re talking 15 to 20 years of muscle memory built into her that Derek has to deconstruct. I think that even sans Henry and NYSS there would still be glimpses of it in Week 3. Those habits just aren’t easily broken. Shawn, for example, had already done the show once when Derek got to her. When Mark had her, she was younger than Nastia is now. I think it’s easier to break bad habits when they’ve had less time to be ingrained. And I don’t think that Shawn had the same hyperextension in any case.
Hell, it’s entirely possible that during rehearsal she has it down pat, (and really, those dances she has done would likely have gotten 10s in any other season) but then the lights come on and it’s time to perform and the old muscle memory pops back in with the adrenaline.
Very true PH. Good point
I’ll be very interested to see how Nastia does on switch up week. Derek said in an interview that she’ll be in LA so she’s gonna have a lot more time with the pro she gets than she usually does with Derek. Also I bet Henry will try and find a way to be involved in her routine as a troupe dancer or something since he won’t be needed that week. He’ll be like a lost puppy without his precious “samba queen”.
PH, if Maks had come up with the rumba and samba Derek gave Nastia, there would have been so much praise for the choreography and certainly 10s would be popping out. Of course with Derek stellar choreo is routinely expected
Derek said Nastia would be in LA the week of switchup?? How did I miss this? What interview?
I think M8 is referring to the afterbuzz interview. She didn’t say she’ll be in LA the whole time, she said she’ll try to stay for as long as possible
Which, unless she’s in finals, is tuesday morning, Ananya. She supposedly has classes all day on Tuesday, but at some point exams start so her schedule may change.
PH I think she meant she’ll arrive at LA earlier in the week rather than on Friday or Saturday.
I found Nastia’s Samba to be outstanding. The musicality was beautiful and I sensed a heighted chemistry. She liked swiveling her hips from thelook on her face had a nice body/body hug with shirtless D at the end. Even the way she grabbed his thigh when he was flat against her from the back. Its an improvement. I thought Jules comment of maybe the most difficult Samba she’s seen on the show was insightful. I’m sure the over-extension is not something Derek can “clean” out of the routine. She may have it and the adrenaline of the live audience has her pushing & performing and she doesn’t realize. Nastia is really goign to have to keep that forefront in her mind to get it to stop.
Henry is definitely part of the fam. His work on Sway & recently with Amy and now Amy shows up in Sway. He probably does help in many ways for many people behind the scene. I’m sure the need to have a diverse pro on the team and Derek’s surprise return are 2 reasons Henry didn’t get his pro spot. His ego is growing also along with his perfect abs, vanity and strict diet plan where he has zero cheat days. I’m sure he is being egged on to take credit for his help but probably doesn’t need too much encouragement. Its everywhere. Look at Val in his All Access a few weeks back. Demi wants to do the show but they would probably give her to Derek so I need to make sure she has nothing to do with the show. They don’t mean it but lttle slights like that leak out and you can tell people’s allegiance. Henry is propogating the “no cheistry” myth to help Val/Rumor’s story line.
I for one, think Nastia herself has caused some of this by the way she has answered some questions in interviews. She needs to be schooled about their packages and image. Don’t give them the news byte. Very reminiscent of Amber and her knees. Just stop talking about anything related to that so they have no fodder for their manipulation. What worries me is that they are going to try a Beth scenario out for Nastia so she gets 4th, can’t possibly win and they get Val / Riker / Willow for the finale so Rumor has an easier path to win and Derek is out of contention. I can hardly stand the manipulation. IMO, I don’t get the Willow hype either. Watch that Paso. She has absolutely ZERO crispness. Look at her skirt swishes which are to snap and she wildly all over the place. I just don’t see it with her. Even when she had the issues and didn’t perform as well as probably dress rehearsal, they still went off. Rumor is being set-up for the arc. Val needs to get “not enough appropriate content” comments and get the 7’s that go with that for his off-theme dances.
Ana already said what her beef was with Derek. Derek insulted her and despite her 2nd place finish with Jerry Rice and other performances he made an unkind comment once, without thinking that he didnt’ think she was that good or something like that. She said it on AB. Obvious, it confirmed to her, he didn’t respect her abilities much and didn’t think she was that good and along with taking her only chance at the MBT, she can’t get over it. Nothing she says about Derek is objective. She is so duplistic, hard to listen too. It isn’t getting her anywhere and is so transparent, it just makes her look small.
Mark did over commment Henry. It did slightly discredit Derek’s work with Nastia by over-crediting Henry. I too agree it was probably a little OTP due to all the other things he does for all the people in the back ground and hasn’t been rewarded and less to do with Nastia but most people wouldn’t put that much thought into analyzing his intent. Its that little jealousy that is underneath for Mark and while it was minor, it leaks out in subtle ways that are sometimes “omission” instead of “commission”. I think he was a little wordy but had great insight and I respect his positivity about his peers. I have long sensed that Mark has a kind heart and can be a good friend that is well like on the show by his peers.