Private Members Area – DWTS Season 20 Week 4 Discussion
Tonight was week 4 (Most Memorable Year) of Dancing with the Stars Season 20. If you’re not a Pure DWTS Insider yet, you can do so here. If you are, then I look forward to the discussion in the comments.
What did you think about tonight’s show? How many times did you cry? Be honest! Do you love or hate most memorable year week? What did you think about who was sent home? Any standouts? Any people you’d like to see go home? Let’s hear it!
Also, we’ll continue the off-topic discussions. In last week’s thread it was suggested that this week we talk about celebrities we’d love to be couples. A few DWTS would be good, but any couples would be ok. This is off-topic anyway. Some people might call this shipping, but that’s taking it to a whole other level. If you want to ship, go to WordPress.com and start a site. This is just good natured dreaming. So, dream away.
I loved the dances last night…each one for different reasons. Though the biggest stand outs for me were Nastia & Derek and Willow & Mark. They were perfect 10’s for me.
As for your off topic question….I need to think about it. I will say right now though that I always thought Derek and Kate Hudson would be hot together.
I loved last nights dances as well. I was glad I had a box of kleenex on standby.
I loved Willow and Mark and Suzanne and Tony were super cute and took me back in time, I loved the bowl of brains… And also Robert’s tribute to his Mother was so sweet.
Sorry to see Michael go.
I think Derek could do much better than Kate Hudson, she has way too much baggage and I personally don’t think she is all that and a bag of chips. I rather have the chips instead.
More Disney week intel…and all of this is pretty tenuous, so take it with a grain of salt
*There’s 3 quicksteps – one from Mary Poppins, one from The Lion King, and one from some other movie.
*There’s also a Viennese waltz from Alice in Wonderland – which I *THINK* might be Willow’s…because then Mark could dress up like The Mad Hatter, which is right up his alley.
*There’s also a foxtrot from Lady & the Tramp…thinking it could be Noah’s, because he won’t ever have quickstep.
*There might also be a song from Pocahontas or Aladdin…source not sure.
*Looks like Val won the battle over what song/dance he & Rumer are doing.
It’s too early in the morning for positive couples dreaming. At this point all I can think is that Len and Louis deserve each other…lol. And yes, I know Len is married. Plus my temper got elevated first by Peta who said her favorites to win were Rumer and Val because there is something so “special” about them. They are so raw and real you know. Hello there are several couples out there that appear raw and real. I’ll come back later when I am less cranky…lol!
The whole time the media was proclaiming that Derek and Kate were dating, Derek was stealth dating (as per usual, for him) a very leggy, very gorgeous brunette dancer. He probably sits in his condo cackling at the clueless media. If he ever sits, that is. π
Peta is dating Maks – what do you expect her to say. Especially since Maks was, yet again, all over the rehearsal space and studio this week. The man has nothing else to do, clearly.
Yeah, I remember Derek was dating that NBA dancer girl or whatever, when all those Kate Hudson rumors were being thrown around. All I had to do was take one look at the two of them and know which one was truth, haha – although I did hear rumors about he and two blondes that were supposedly more rooted in truth – Lauren Conrad and that he had a fling with Katherine Jenkins. Not sure about that though. I think he looks great with his fair features and the dark-haired ladies.
I think Keo and Lindsay look great together too – but I don’t ship, so that’s as far as I’ll take that, and I’m pretty sure she’s engaged.
Not sure there is any truth the the Lauren Conrad thing or not. Katherine is a different story – she was in Park City with him and his family and there was a photo that papa Hough tweeted of Derek and Katherine on this toboggan type ride thing where they looked cozy – which Derek immediately made him delete. I suppose you can take that any number of ways. There is also video of him very close with her in a club. Hard to say. Not quite as obvious as some of his other gfs.
Interesting! I couldn’t remember why I thought he and Katherine had been seeing each other, but it was probably that photo or something.
I’d rather the Lauren Conrad thing remain unsubstantiated or confirmed untrue – cause you know, it’s Lauren Conrad, haha.
I woke up cranky today to Lynne. Don’t know why I find with this show now I get so frustrated with the judges and other things I don’t enjoy the dancing. Something is wrong with me just having a hard time enjoying it. I did love Sharna and Noah but I knew that going in. I wish Michael could have stayed longer. I honestly believe Peta did not give it her all. JMO
I’ll go have a happy cup of coffee and be back. π
Speaking of Derek Hough former girlfriends, with Nina Dobrev leaving Vampire Diaries (in part because of her other former boyfriend Ian Somerhalder?) I can’t imagine what they are going to do with the show. I’m currently watching it in the 5th season, and while it’s not a GREAT tv show by any stretch, I actually find it better than the disappointing, uneven, and even stupid True Blood seasons (except the first, which was pretty good).
No input on any of the other Disney spoilers I posted earlier? Or did they just get lost in the shuffle?
I was going to say that Pocahontas probably means Colors of the Wind – but I’d prefer Savages or Just Around the River Bend. It’s one of my favorite Disney soundtracks EXCEPT for its signature song, which I only kinda like. The score is beautiful.
Would love Step in Time or Chim Chim Chiree – if Riker wasn’t doing PoTC I’d say he’d be great for them.
Mark as the Mad Hatter or White Rabbit? Yes please.
Too much to comment on…not sure where to start. Hopefully this doesn’t get too long.
I like the basic idea of “Most Memorable Year” but it ends up being who has the most emotional story. Also, I just hate that someone is eliminated at the end of the night as everyone is sharing such personal stories. It just seems like a slap in the face. Willow probably stood out the most for me last night but I really liked most of the routines. I am growing tired of Suzanne though. Or maybe it’s more that I’m growing tired of Tony.
As for Disney week I have to admit to being pretty excited to see Mark as the Mad Hatter! I am worried that the themed dances will start to be too much for Willow down the line (assuming she sticks around). Mark would do well to do a stripped down dance once she’s more confident in her movements. I’m a little concerned about Riker and Paso honestly not because I don’t think he could pull off the character but I’m not that confident in Allison’s ability to work on his frame/technique. Might be another rough night for him so his fans better have voted.
I’m pretty darn excited for a QS to Mary Poppins as I can already envision it. I think QS lends itself to Disney week for some reason (I remember Danica’s QS was one of the few dances of her’s I liked) so not too surprised there are probably a few. I would actually love to see Robert and Kym as Lady and the Trump as I think they could have a lot of fun with it but excited to see Noah do it as well.
Not that excited about Rumer’s dance though I do expect it to be well performed and very dramatic.
So many things! Starting with Disney Week…
-I’m upset that Rumer isn’t doing Kiss The Girl. After her package last night I’m starting to like her a lot more and I really just wish I could see another side of her other
-I think I like all music from Pocahontas. I really hope that they use this movie
-I like the Riker has Pirates, but I just don’t know what to expect from him anymore. He has such talent but I just don’t have faith in Allison anymore. Emma had such good point on all-access about their tango being way too much.
-I’m kind of sick of Mark having all these crazy themes and concepts for his dances. I hope that after Disney week they can just go back to something pretty normal
-I’m excited for Suzanne and Nastia’s dances and can’t wait to find out what everybody else is officially doing!
Thanks for the spoilers as always!
With few exceptions, why do the quicksteps look so awful by the stars and so great by the pros. 3 quicksteps does not bode well for Disney week.
Why do we keep Patti around for so long? That part of the judging annoys me. I believe in respect for elders and respect for icons, but not when you’re scoring a dance competition which they chose to join. I loved having her the first couple weeks. That would have been plenty.
I don’t really ship, and I was thinking about the topic. Do guys ever ship? I haven’t dove into the world of shippers much, but it seems like from my experience most shippers are women. My theory: guys don’t want to imagine another guy with a female star, they want to imagine themselves with that hot female star. (Topic for next week?)
Also now that they aren’t doing the switch-up, I would have rather have had last night be a no-elimination night because of all the emotional stories. Does this mean that they won’t eliminate someone still and we’ll have a four-person finale?
I also think the biggest downfall for the one-night show is that the eliminations are based on the prior week’s dancing and voting; it makes an elimination more palatable if they have a rough night and then are off the show, but to see someone like Michael dance his heart out and then have to go – that blows. That being said, I’m glad we have the opportunity to see that dance, so I guess there’s benefit to it as well.
I’m sure there ARE guys that ship, but it’s definitely a female-dominated activity. Whether it be fictional characters or real-life people, females seem invested in witnessing the connection. For girls and women of all ages, it can also be about sexual expression and exploration.
My daughter is a ship-a-holic for fictional characters, not so much real-life celebs. She used to write fanfic for a bunch of different anime cartoons like Naruto, and she and her friends would share them with each other as their version of teenage porn – it wasn’t that graphic at all, but the intent was there to stimulate themselves emotionally and hormonal (even if they didn’t know it). I only know about it because they got caught with a notebook of it in school and the teacher FLIPPED out, so I thought it was going to be all raunchy. It was more tame than anything even on network tv, and I told her school to shove it.
I’m concerned that Mark’s continued trip to the costuming/production well will result in the same thing happening to Rumer and Val – getting to be a bit one note. I think at some point he needs to just dance. But maybe that’s just me.
Willow’s first dance was a very standard cha-cha. The three dances that followed were all those that lend themselves to theatrics – AT/Paso/Contemporary. I personally have loved them and they have been very memorable. That being said, I do understand the potential for that to be distracting – especially if Mark misses the, ahem, mark – with a concept or choreography. So hopefully now that they’ve really put their own personal stamp on things, they can make sure that things are well-rounded.
I think Mark’s dance last night would have been a thousand times better if he had killed off the whole troupe in the first few bars. Nothing against the troupe, but I had a hard time focusing on Willow and I thought I was watching a pro dance or something from SYTYCD. It was very distracting.
I am not a shipper because I honestly didn’t know what it was until you guys told me. I don’t ship because I don’t care! Now having said that I am pissed at Peta for being back with Max. How many times is she going to be used by that guy.
I miss Karina and Cheryl there I’ve said it.
Tony & Susanne both need to Waltz out the door. Please take Len with you.
Patty needed to go two weeks ago.
On Memory night there should be NO elimination. So what did they say last night with Michael’s elimination. OK so your Father abandoned you twice. Your a black gay man who has been mocked and degraded how many times. Hey thanks for sharing all of your agony NOW YOUR OUT! Seriously Memory night needs to be eliminated or at least handled with more compassion.
Thank God Derek came back and there is some light in the show.
I love Mark and Willow but I think she did get a bit lost in the group.
Sharna is just to gorgeous for words and I love her and Noah together.
Ryker is one hell of a dancer and I like watching him improve.
R & V SSDD in my opinion.
I’m not at all sure that Michael was upset about leaving. I’d have to watch it again because I missed part of it, but he and Derek were yuking it up about something while the credits were rolling. He didn’t look devastated.
I saw Michael’s exit interview. He seemed pretty relieved. He described it as the hardest thing he’s ever done. He always sounded like he was ready to just get back to focusing on preparing for football and trying to make a team. So, I think he was relieved from that perspective.
Some intel for tomorrow night…
*Nastia & Derek’s jazz? “Adorable, looks like it came right out of a Disney movie.”
*Rumer & Val’s samba? “Not working very well. Doesn’t even look like a samba…wayyyy too slow. Just really, really, weird.”
*Most of the couples are either using the troupe or have a huge production for their routines…and Mark is NOT the Mad Hatter, he’s the white rabbit; Val is playing an eel…I can’t even crack a joke, that comedy practically writes itself. π
*Teams for team dances getting picked Monday after the show – and they’re all going straight into rehearsal.
*Someone overheard Val claiming that the producers “offered ‘Love is an Open Door’ to Rumer & I first, but we didn’t want it and told them to give it to Nastia & Derek instead.” How benevolent of you, Val…I have a feeling you may be kicking yourself for not taking that song after everyone scratches their head at you & Rumer’s bizarre non-samba. π
Lord, as if Val has that kind of veto power. Like he can dictate what Derek gets. He’s delusional AND stoopid.
Oooh! thanks for the latest insider intel Court.
Can’t wait for Nastia & Derek’s jazz. I wonder what stodgy-stooge Len will find to dislike about it; you know there’s gonna be something.
OK, with Mark as the white rabbit, I’ll be waiting for an ad lib from Tom about Mark’s trips into the animal kingdom for costume inspiration. At least Willow will be Alice.
I’m totally disgusted (but not surprised) with the way Val has handled this whole week. What an idiot. They could have done something so cute and fun to “Kiss the Girl” which would have shown a totally different side to Rumer. Instead he screws around and ends up with a hot mess on his hands. I don’t care about him, but Rumer deserves better. Of course, I won’t be surprised if the judges rave about it like it was the best thing they’ve ever seen.
As for Val turning down “Love is an Open Door” because we didn’t want it, I wonder if he’ll make sure everyone in the press line knows he gave up the song, but changes the story to sound like it was a magnanimous gift.
I’m sure that Derek & Nastia’s number is going to be absolutely Disney-riffic. I’m looking forward to that number the most.
Seriously, a samba to Poor Unfortunate Souls? I just can’t picture it at all, so I’m not surprised it’s not working. Looking forward to this as well – for the train-wreck potential.
Also, fuck Val. Really. Maks had a lot of faults – A LOT – but at least he entertained me. Val is just insufferable.
I admit that once I heard Rumer was doing a Samba but still using Poor Unfortunate Souls it was hard to picture. Val as an eel? Not sure how that will work. I’m not going to assume anything though. Usually when I don’t think a routine will work the judges end up loving it. Just not sure if they can afford to have another good but not great week for Rumer.
I kind of wish Mark was the Mad Hatter…why do I think he’ll have rabbit ears on??? Can’t wait for tonight!
I don’t know if he would be THAT dumb, Cidra. Does he really think than anyone would believe that he could dictate what Derek and Nastia dance to??
On second thought…
All of this bravado Val is throwing around this season is making me think one thing…
…Val must have one tiny pee-pee.
Thanks Court for the intel.
Totally looking forward to seeing Derek and Nastia They will be gorgeous.
Ladies and Gentlemen VAL IS AN EEL!!!!!! lol All slithery and disgusting. You may all disagree but I think Rumor is running the show more then Val is. IMO Val is just a short ugly turd! Who would ever believe he has that much veto power as PH said. Seriouly man check yourself in and see a shrink.
Mark and Willow I love it. She will be a perfect Alice and Mark will be a cool Rabbit.
Listen to me the person who hates Disney week and I’m already anxious to see two dances.
Looking forward to the show but I still hit the mute button when the judges come on. Just can’t stand to listen to them. Any chance of making a clean sweep next season and starting over with new ones? No I guess not but it is Disney night where Dreams do come true. π
He’s all talk, no action. And then he thinks what he does is so magnificent that he brags but his gf…I mean, partner is all let down. Unfulfilled.
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Yep. Micropenis.
I’ll say this about “Love is an Open Door”-gate: I believe that Val didn’t want the song – that boy, despite his bravado, is woefully limited when it comes to being flexible with music. What I DON’T believe is that Val just said “Give it to Nastia & Derek” and the producers just said “OK! Whatever you say, Val! You’re the boss!” I think Nastia & Derek probably ended up with it by default – just because Rob reeeeeallly, reeallllly wanted someone to dance to it and I think Derek’s the only one that’s consistently been able to polish turds on this show. But I guess we’ll just have to let Val continue to have his delusions of grandeur…he’s running the whole show, apparently.
Yeah, and the fact that Derek apparently finished the choreo VERY quickly makes me think he didn’t see it as a turd OR a challenge. Which says something about some of the other pros on this show, really. Of course, it could have been just Val and Rob is covering.
Derek is also not the type to refuse a song – not regularly anyway. I’m sure he’s done it in the past, but he’s so strategic about the show that I would bet he holds those cards for when he really REALLY needs it. Val is not a forward or logical thinker. He doesn’t see that him being a dick about (more than one) songs this week will likely mean he has no choice further down the road. Or maybe he does…but those who are divas with a tiny penis AND fanbase tend to not go the distance on this show. They might just stop kissing his ass.
“Love is an Open Door” Is Disney’s money maker right now and they are going to give it to the best to Choreo and that’s what happened. IMO
Is are alternate topic this week small pee pee’s? Just wondering. π
Our alternate topics seem to happen by accident. π
I know I know PH. As soon as I hit Submit I realized I used the wrong our but couldn’t get back here fast enough to change it. π
If Rumer’s dance ends up missing the mark tonight there is no one to blame but Val himself. I’m sure he’ll try and put it on the judges but he seems to not really get the whole point of Disney week.
I’m actually most curious about Robert and Riker’s routines probably. I just love anything Mary Poppins and I just want to see what Allison does with Paso.
@DLT – At this point, I think Val only has himself to blame if this samba falls flat (and I think it will – if it’s as weird as DT says it is and the judges start heaping praise on it, I’m calling shenanigans, though). He passed on “Love is an Open Door”, he talked Rumer out of “Kiss the Girl”, he switched their dance from tango to samba – he’s been calling all the shots on this one, so if it’s as turdtastic as I hear, it’s 100% on him…Rumer has just been trusting his expertise. But I’m fulling expecting him to deflect, deflect, deflect if sh*t goes south…
…on a side note, sea creatures in general just kind of give me the willies. Was just talking with Deep Throat about how I am terrified of octopi, eels, sea snakes, jellyfish, squid, etc. That may be part of the reason I’m not too fond of The Little Mermaid. I just look at pix like this and I’m saying “Nope nope nope FUCKING NOPE kill it with fire!!!
I fully expect him to bitch about how Derek gets all the good songs.
All very true Courtney. I almost wonder if he was better off sticking with the tango and doing the straight movie version of the song. It would have been another one-note performance by Rumer but might have gone over better as a performance. Again, I’m not going to assume anything though because the producers and judges can try and spin anything they want. I do wonder if Rumer will start getting a little anxious if it falls flat. We saw her one of her earlier livestreams she’s willing to go against Val if she feels it’s necessary.
I actually have a deep fear of the ocean so I’m with you on slimy sea creatures. I do have a soft spot for Little Mermaid though because it was the first movie I saw in the movie theater.
I feel bad for Rumor – I think the girl’s got talent, but I’m not seeing where she’s being presented to her best advantage. In a way, it’s what I felt about Meryl – Maks didn’t push her or challenge her. She was great coming in, but I wanted to see FABULOUS!!! by the end, and it just didn’t happen for me.
I was reading Gold Derby – they’ve been tweeting me links directly, for some reason (maybe we linked to them at one point and they saw the hits?) – and I realized that in each of the first four weeks we’ve had a different leader board topper. Rumer, then Riker, then Nastia, then Willow. I guess I tend to look at the bottom the most, to figure out who’s leaving. Are the judges REALLY that Machiavellian? Or the producers? Has it really been an accident? Were the top 4 couples really the best in each of their weeks? I would say no, but does that mean anything? Are they trying to make it a toss up between the four?
Anyway, my point in this is that if Rumer is back at the top despite not having the best dance (it sounds like a trainwreck), then we’ll really have to wonder.
Thanks Courtney – always interesting to hear the backstage gossip! Think Derek must have choreographed it on Monday when he was the invisible man because his and Nastia’s schedule has been ridiculous this week and he sounded really upbeat about it in his column.
Any gossip on the other couples? Interested to hear how willow and Riker are getting on – am really looking forward to this evening: last year’s Disney night was fabulous. Hope that the celebs all have a fun, upbeat night after the emotion of last week.
Who are the top scorers likely to pick the teams? And do you predict shenanigans to engineer any result they want – e.g. Rumor vs Nastia?
So far, LisaW, I believe Nastia has the highest cummulative score.
Nastia = 134
Rumer = 132
Riker = 131
Willow = 128
I’ll be curious if they try to pimp someone or underscore someone to try to work out different teams. But right now, Nastia is Team 1. Regardless, ppl want Derek for his choreo but I’m not sure that’s a great idea this time around. Someone else might actually have to step up to the plate and choreograph a decent team dance. They’ve seen Derek do it often enough now. And frankly, Val better hope he gets on Derek’s team because the CFam track record is pretty bad.
I hate to say it, but, an “eel” fits Val perfectly.
Here’s what I told someone on Twitter who was speculating about who the team dance captains would be: don’t be so sure that it will be Nastia & Rumer. If they took the two cumulative highest scorers at this moment, it would be those two; but only one point separates Rumer & Riker, and I have decent reason to believe that Rumer is not going to do so well tonight. So I would not be at all shocked to see Nastia & Riker as the team captains – I think Nastia ends up a team captain, regardless; I think the other will be a toss-up between Rumer & Riker. A lot will depend on whether or not Val gets called out on some bizarre choreography, and whether Len finally lets up on Riker. I’m not even gonna speculate as to how the picking might go – it’s gotten so unpredictable these past few seasons that it would just give me a headache. I think La Familia have FINALLY moved past picking teams following party lines (translation: “We only want people on the DWM payroll on our team!”) and have realized that it can benefit them to be on a team with Derek or Mark. Besides, with Peta & Keo out, and Tony saddled with one of the weaker celebs, there ain’t many DWM cronies left for Val to pick from. If Riker ends up captain over Rumer, though, I would not be at all surprised to see Nastia pick Rumer first for her team…simply because Derek doesn’t usually indulge any of the subtle (or outright) shade Val throws his way.
Actually, Derek didn’t like the song either at first. But it’s grown on him!
I hope Derek finds time to talk team-dance strategy with Nastia.
If Nastia ends up as captain (as we fully expect), the sensible thing for her to do would be to grab Willow. Mark and Derek have collaborated on a number of dances. So Mark would be the best choice to help shoulder the burden of choreographing the team dance.
How does the picking work again? The top scorer gets first pick, right…and can they choose either to pick another couple or to pick the song/dance style?
Like I said, he can make anything work. Some of his very best work has come from songs that he initially didn’t like. A certain 50’s Paso comes to mind…. π
Val is so…limited…that he doesn’t have the same willingness to give something a try.
@Cidra – Lately, it seems like the winner of the coin toss gets to chose whether they want first pick of song or first pick of teammates. Derek usually picks song.
I’m back….
I guess the better question is….why does Rob have such a hard on for Frozen? Pressure from above?
I just saw the Anna costume and it is gorgeous. Exactly like Anna’s. Kudos to the costume department.
Yes PH IMO pressure from above!
Yeah, when given a choice, I don’t remember Derek ever picking people over song first. I think he knows he can choreograph around anyone. It’s been a winning strategy so far.
Out of all the team dances over the years, I don’t actually think Derek and Mark have been together that often. Maybe twice? I would have to go look, but often Mark is already eliminated or on the other team.
The hard on for Frozen is probably because it’s the new hot Disney film. π Want to give more publicity for it, isn’t there going to be a sequel too?
“New”?? I’m pretty sure my sister made me watch it with her well more than a year ago. π
ETA: Yeah, it was released November 2013. In showbiz time, that’s pretty old. Although in Disney time, it’s newish. I guess.
It’s definitely new in Geologic time. π
You’re right. It was announced not long ago on it’s sequel;
http://variety.com/2015/film/news/disney-announces-frozen-2-1201451480/
Not to mention, the Soundtrack was a huge success for Disney too and also a Grammy winner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_(soundtrack)
Thanks, Court and PH. I know Derek always makes delicious lemonade no matter how many lemons get thrown at him, but I just hope Nastia wins the toss and they pick Willow/Mark so he’ll have his bro to help with the choreography.
First spoiler for the Anniversary Show: Kelly & Val are reuniting to perform their paso doble…and the infamous Speedo flamenco. π―
It may not be new in terms of Hollywood, but Frozen is still a hot commodity and they are milking it for every little drop that it’s worth. For every person that goes absolutely bonkers at the mere thought of hearing “Let it Go” one more time, there seems to still be legions of younguns that are eager for any and all tie-ins. I saw the new Cinderella and the kids in the audience were way more excited about the Frozen short than the actual movie.
TWO dances??? Who in the hell thought this was a good idea??
Or…is it that they’re having a hard time getting past contestants to dance, beyond those who want to extend their 15 minutes?
Fig all I can say is in Children’s Hospital they can run “Frozen” on a continuous loop and the kids love it. They sing along with all of the songs over and over. Whatever the Magic is it’s ok with me.
I’m thinking it might be a medleyβ¦no way it’s two FULL dances. Kelly honestly isn’t a strong enough dancer to pull off two full dances without a lot of rehearsal time. Also I doubt Val has the time as he’s rehearsing with Rumer at the same time. That being said, I do think they’ll have a hard time getting people back. I’m assuming Melissa is a guarantee (Donny probably also) but what about Drew and Emmitt? Would Cheryl come back? Should be interesting to see who agrees to come back.
Court what is the date of the Anniversary show?
The Speedo flamenco again? Why, just why?
Vogue, that’s what I was going to say!! For any Seinfeld fans, I think Val should give George’s “the opposite” a try.
Miss Vogue, “I know, I know!” *waves hand in the air* “Because Val is so sexy and all the ladies (young and old) have been begging TPTB to let him wear the Speedo again.”
LOL! Both of you!
Courtney was right one tiny pee pee.