DWTS Season 20, The Finale – Dancing by the Numbers
Well, there’s not much to discuss tonight, actually. Riker and Rumer are currently tied for first place, with Noah 8 points back. I full expect that Noah’s deficit will get larger after their dance tomorrow night which brings it down to Riker and Rumer. The scores??
When all is said and done, for Noah to win, he needs to get about 35,000 more votes per million votes cast than BOTH Riker and Rumer. Now, bigger deficits have been over come in the past, but never in the finale. I don’t think Noah makes it. Now, it’s possible he could take second place instead of third, for sure. But I don’t see him winning, as much as I would love that to happen.
That leaves us with Riker and Rumer. The margin is ONE vote. Will Riker pull it off? Well, he should. Seriously, how non-creative and unimaginative could Val get by simply doing a good Argentine Tango? For that reason alone he should lose. Like Riker’s freestyle or not, it was a risk, it was different, it was a FREESTYLE.
The problem that Riker has is that his fans seemed to be (like many younger fanbases) consumed with twitter and winning the encore dance. HUGE mistake, as I tried to tell them. Has anyone won the encore freestyle AND won the trophy?? I think Kellie might be the only one. The PLUS that Riker has is that Derek fans seemed to be pretty solidly behind him. That said – how likely are you to power vote for someone who isn’t your first choice? Not that likely. I’m sure he got lots of votes from them, but it’s unlikely to be Derek’s fanbase at full strength, especially since they’ve had a week to cool down.
Rumer? I really like this girl a lot, but her pro let her down. That as a freestyle was a total creative cop out and that’s a real shame. He played it very, very safe and I can’t believe none of the judges called him on it. Rumer’s plus said is that she’s been pimped to high heaven and a large percentage of the voting audience could be called sheeple. Add in all the bought and paid for media since the beginning of the show and Riker has an uphill battle.
At the end of the day, I can’t even make a prediction. It’s too close to call. I change my mind every five minutes.
What to look for….well, Riker winning the encore would be a bad sign, historically. Riker getting hosed on the third dance is an interesting sign. It could mean he had the votes. But the judges tend to score that dance after the voting on a level playing field. I don’t think, historically, that they want to change the outcome with their scores. Let’s just see if they still do. What has Rob Wade dictated they do?
I’m interested in seeing who wins. If Riker wins, it will be a hard fought battle by a good dancer with an uphill fight. If Rumer wins, it will be a highly pimped win by a great dancer with the worst choreography from a winner probably in the history of the show. Or at least the last 10 seasons or so, considering that the choreography game has been upped every season.
Until now.
Amber had her encore freestyle….. It seems like only Dereks partner can get the encore and win…. Still hope for a Riker Encre and him winning
Well done, Miss Heidi, and I couldn’t agree more with you on everything. I hope it’s Riker to win. From the final three, he was the best and most consistent dancer all season. And he and Allison just blew me away last night with both dances. Heidi and Court nailed it by saying they took a risk and they nailed it.
And speaking of Allison….I hope those who doubted her ability to choreograph and be a pro on DWTS last season, have changed their mind. She has really proven herself now and is in a brand new league with the best of them. Please TPTB do not let her go.
Thanks for getting this out so quickly to us, Heidi!
This was the most underwhelming finale for me of all the seasons I’ve watched. Aside from the fact that this Season (20!) I was expecting for everything to be bigger & better than other seasons – I would still feel this way if it were a normal season.
While I would love to see Noah cover the deficit, I’m not invested in any of the finalist. I’ve still not gotten over Willow’s elimination and think had we been able to see a Mark or Derek freestyle I would have felt differently about last nights dances.
I don’t have plans to watch the final show tonight, not because I’m bitter, but just because I don’t want to invest in 2 hours of filler when I can catch the dances I’d like on youtube. I definitely will be tuning into this site though to see what I missed.
I am hoping for a Noah encore and a Rumer. I still can’t get past Riker having previously competed in ballroom dancing against the likes of Whitney and Lindsey. Allison’s time is coming, I just don’t want it to be with him.
Thanks PH for the post. I have say I watched the show and the only dance I was compelled to see again was Noah ‘s freestyle. Too bad he had a couple of missteps in that AT. ….
Riker’s dance was okay, not as great as Alfonso and Witney’s, plus the music was terrible. I’m sorry but Rumer’s dance was not freestyle worthy. It looked like every other dance Val choreographed for her. She danced well, but seriously that could have been a week 7 or 8 dance. No creativity when your using the AT playbook. Sheesh, Sharna has to choreo for a guy missing half his limbs and that’s all you got Val? Very disappointing.
I think Noah would be thrilled with 3rd place seeing how he only expected to get to week 3. I saw an article on E! with the headline something like: ” Rumer’ decides where to put mirrorball…” WTF?! I’m sorry, did they announce a winner already snd I missed it?
At this point, if Val and Rumer don’t win, I would be very suprised. I mean, Ashton Kutcher, Gwyneth Paltrow, Miley Cyrus and Sofia Vergara tweeted about it. I think it’s pathetic and sad, that you have to help yourself that way, but hey, I think that is going to work.
Anyway, some part of me wants to see Val win, so we won’t have to listen about ‘I have never won’ anymore, because I’m sick of it, but I’ve thrown all my votes to Riker.
# 6 Tamara- I saw some big names tweeting for Riker ( Ellen Degeneres) and Noah (Michelle Obama) so if people will be voting purely on celebrity support only, I wouldn’t be so sure that Val & Rumer have it in the bag. I feel like it will be a very close race between all 3, this is the first season in a few that I’m just not sure who will take it. I feel like the last 2 seasons it was a bit more obvious.
I honestly think a lot of the voting demographic are sheeple PH. Sheeple that watch entertainment media shows ans talk shows which all have pimped Rumer & Val.
Freestyles have been called out before and I really was hopeful 1 of the 4 judges would say it was a little one note or not really freestyle. But didn’t happen, so I am about 95% sure Rumer will win.
I go back and forth between S18 Maks or S20 Val having worse choreo for the season for a winner. I have always preferred Val choreo to Maks….until this season. Looking at the body of work, I actually do think Maks was slightly better than Val. That’s pretty bad!
Please please let S21 be more fair than this. These couples work too hard to have no shot due to agendas.
Even with Maks and Meryl…. Maks still gave Meryl a variety of dances. Even when his choreography was lacking, Meryl played different characters. The only different dance Rumer did was that Samba….. It was dark, but it had a level of campiness to it that made it at least entertaining…. even if it wasn’t a samba.
I will give that freestyle one thing – it was entertaining at the very least. Their dances (rumba, paso, waltz) in the last couple of weeks have been boring
Allison did what I wanted her to do with that freestyle (because obviously I am the only opinion that matters)… she slowed it down and gave Riker time to shine. I just couldn’t get over the top hats and the theme of it. Reminded me way too much of Alfonso’s without it being Alfonso.
I’ve read some people complaining about Sharna doing a contemporary, but I actually thought it was perfect for Noah. It showed his journey and it was really well put together. I’m of with a contemporary for freestyle if it’s as good as that one.
@EPMusic – That’s a very interesting question actually…who had the worse choreo for the season for a winner, S18 or S20. Hm. For me I look at it as which couple has more memorable dances. Considering I’m not a fan of either couple the dances have to be pretty decent for me to remember them and I would have to say Maksyl had more memorable dances (I say that in comparison to Valenrue, not overall). Like you I usually prefer Val’s choreography to Maks but this season was such a letdown for me from him.
I’ve said it before but even though I despised Janel and that partnership I actually think he gave her better routines, she just didn’t dance them that well. Other than Rumer’s W1 Foxtrot and maybe Swan Lake I really don’t remember any other dance. I guess Disney because of the costumes but that’s about it.
I SO wish Noah had gotten 9s for his first dance. I really think that would have made the difference. I’m so bummed for him right now because I think he would have had a legit shot. Thinking of either Noah or Riker winning makes me smile, thinking of Rumer winning doesn’t do a thing for me.
I agree with previous comments. Meryl and Maks had memorable dances and I actually loved them- there was something that just clicked with them and didn’t feel forced. Then came Val and Rumer and it just feels like now that Val saw how Maks and Meryl had that natural connection, Val feels the need to FORCE his partners into trying to have the same and it just comes off weird.
Also Meryl danced a DIFFERENT dance each week….not the same waltz/foxtrot for 4 weeks and the same contemporary/AT for another 2 weeks.
I agree @DLT, I wish Noah had at least gotten 9s too…its frustrating when Rumer clearly had a couple of errors in her “foxtrot” but got perfect 10s of course. I think Noah got 8s because TPTB know he is a threat.
I just can’t get on board with Riker’s freestyle no matter how much I try to force myself to like it. When I watched it back, he and Allison were out of sync a lot and he wasn’t dancing as powerful as he typically does. I just felt like the freestyle wasn’t Riker’s style and was just Allison doing what she thinks a freestyle should be based on Alfonso’s.
It has always been said that the freestyle wins the show. If that is in fact true, then this is Riker’s win. If Val wins, and I say him, because it won’t be Rumer’s win, it will prove beyond any doubt that could be left in anyone’s mind that TPTB decide who goes when and who wins, probably before the season even starts.
That was not a freestyle from Val. Shame on the judges for not calling him out on it. I would expect that from the 3 original puppets, but at least Julianne could have said something.
I would have loved to see Noah win, but scoring 8 points behind everyone else right at the start of the show made it clear he wouldn’t. He will get the encore.
If Val wins, it will be a huge disgrace to the show and the fans, especially to those that have stayed loyal through the years despite all the manipulations and pimping that goes on.
I just went on DWTS’s YouTube page and of course Val and Rumer’s freestyle was placed as the top video that automatically plays when you click on the page.
Mods- are any of you all aware based on twitter “hashtags” who will be getting the encore for their freestyle? I tried to find an app that counted the hashtags, but I was unsuccessful.
Amber also won the mirrorball and got the encore. I really hope his fans didn’t get distracted and voted enough for Riker too.
@Meghan – So far Riker’s had the most tweet so if the voting on the freestyle is closed already then he’s definitely won the encore. I’m not sure when they’ll stop counting. One thing is for sure; Val and Rumer aren’t doing an encore. Their tweet numbers were very low.
Tony’s choreography in season 15 must be there fighting for first place in this particular FAM ranking.
It will be a big surprise if Val and Rumer lose today. If they were able to make Melissa and Tony champions (I will never understand this) there’s no way that Val will remain with 0 MBT after tonight show.
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I can’t decide if Val is delusional or just not very bright. How many times have we heard “Nothing like this has ever been done …” and it turns out to be the same old same old? And that business with “stripping it down,” Derek OWNS that. That’s what I mean, is he just delusional or not very bright? I voted hard for Riker, and since it’s my birthday and there’s no chance for a Nastia/Derek win for the occasion, I just hope I don’t have to abide a Valenrue win on this day. Will save my cake for after the show in case I need something to get my mind off what just happened.
Must mention CAI. While commenting on Noah’s first dance, she had the unmitigated gall to say, “You have a lot to prove.” EXCUSE ME???? How stupid can this person be? If there is anyone in this world who has nothing to prove to anyone it’s Noah. What an incredibly stupid, thoughtless thing to say. While the level of harm inflicted is galaxies greater, it reminds me of her “lip syncing” critique of Nastia. Just shows, from the sublime to the ridiculous, CAI finds something stupid to say about everything.
Happy birthday Suzy – I hope your wish does come true! 🙂
As a Derek fan, and someone who was pissed off at Val’s “Nastia and Derek are uninteresting” comment, I voted more for Riker than I ever have voted before. He has been one of the best dancers this season, and did the best freestyle, so I think he deserves to win.
If Val hadn’t made that comment, I probably wouldn’t have voted at all last night. So Val probably did the other two dancers a favor.
If the semi-final was special and electrifying, this final was definitely a let down. In my humble opinion, Riker & Rumer (the best dancers) had the most underwhelming freestyles and Noah, while having botched his redo, delivered the most moving freestyle. It’s all a wash. To me, Riker’s jazz trio and contemporary numbers were his strongest and delivered the most “wow.” His freestyle concept didn’t feel fresh because it was so reminiscent of Alfonso’s and I felt like it lacked his usual attack and over-the-top charisma. Rumer’s freestyle was simple and traditional and I guess, a risk because they didn’t take any risks? Huh? It felt redundant because it was. Their foxtrot, rumba, both waltzes and now freestyle have all blended together monotonously in mood, tone, costuming and style.
It’s the finals!! What happened to creativity, delivering the unexpected and living up to the hype? Least memorable finale.
Totally agree with your posts DLT 10 and Meghan 11!… Well except maybethe last part about Riker’s freestyle. I wasn’t blown away but I think I liked it a bit more:)
#marintx On the way back from taking my daughter to school, I pulled over and parked and voted (Riker) for the remaining 10 minutes on my phone. Never done that before.
The words delusional and “not very bright” aren’t mutually exclusive, Suzy. 😀
They always SAY that, Cindy, but it’s really not correct. You don’t WIN the show with the freestyle, most of the time. The ONE exception to that is Kellie. What the saying should be is that the freestyle can COST you the win.
Most of the pros who spout this I don’t think ever really considered the distinction between the two points.
Thanks PH. I needed that. 🙂
Although riker killed that Paso and it’s probably my favorite dance of this entire season, I actually thought his freestyle was the most underwhelming.
Allison kept saying it was going to be this big award show like piece, and it turned out to be a some what sloppy hodge podge of (jazz, broadway,hip hop) moves that didn’t emphasize any one strength of rikers particularly well…which I think the whole point of the freestyle should be. I did like the little hip hop section at the end, and it made me wish they had done a sick hip hop freestyle instead.
Noah had the best freestyle hands down to me, followed by rumer.
Wow. So close! I feel like even if Noah is a bit behind, if he made it this far, that must mean something regarding votes. What I’m trying to say is, I wouldn’t rule Noah out just yet. Anything can happen.
I know a lot of people rallying behind Rumer and Val, so TPTB might just get what they want here. We will have to see!
As far as Riker, I get he is a fantastic dancer and I have pretty much come to terms with the fact that he might win, but what really bugs me is Allison. Yeah, she can choreograph some fun things, but let’s not forget that she’s doing so with someone who HAS experience…and not just any experience, BALLROOM experience. I feel it was a free pass for her. And I just think it’ll be a little odd if she wins the MBT considering she doesn’t even have any ballroom background. That has bothered me from the beginning and it always will. I just can’t warm up to her.
If Allison comes back for the next seasons to come and she is handed someone who is not a Riker and she is STILL able to come up with showstopping choreo and dances for that non-dancer, then yes, I will give her major props for that…because she was actually able to teach someone properly and have them shine, kind of like what Derek did to the non-dancers like Joanna or Maria. That was impressive. Her “knowledge” will be as important as ever because she will be teaching someone who has no idea what they’re doing. Unlike Riker who I’m sure has knowledge on technique because of his past.
Until then, I will always think she got an easy pass with Riker. The fact that he has ballroom experience contributes to it a lot. Give Allison someone who doesn’t have ballroom experience or experience at all. If she can create magic with that, my respect for her will go way up. Until then, I don’t really feel it’s her time yet to hoist up that MBT.
Other pros are more deserving, like Sharna! One of my faves!
Sorry for the rant, lol.
Oh yeah, and Riker’s FS! I think I saw a comment here before where they mentioned that Allison said they would do something that hadn’t been done before…
Well, when I saw the FS, it was nothing new. Just like everyone said, it reminded me of Alfonso’s FS, only sloppier and not as good.
Okay, I’m done…lol.
Going by topsy it’s a very close race for the encore between Riker and Noah, each with around 21,000. Rumer is far behind with like 3,000. Oh how happy I would be if this was an indication of the real results. Most probably not though.
Always such interesting and informative numbers posts. I’ve been watching this show since the get-go and have been able to call the winner after the FS round in all but two seasons, but I truly haven’t got a feel here. So much of this season reminds me of S18 I’m inclined to guess Rumer but with the more even competition and without the fake showmance and over-the-top fangirls, it wouldn’t surprise me to see either Riker or Noah walk with the trophy.
If Riker had danced his paso 2nd rather than first than I would have actually been more confident that he could beat Rumer. His freestyle underwhelmed in comparison, not to mention he had to go after Noah’s freestyle. I’ve given up on Noah taking the win. I think the points margin will be to strong with him set to lose even more ground with the fusion dance. Noah deserves the encore and his freestyle is the only one I really want to watch again but he won’t get it with Riker’s twitter fandom. As for the mirrorball, I can only realistically see Rumer winning it now. Looking forward to this season being over, it’s gone really fast but the final was underwhelming. It really does give you an appreciation for how much Derek brings to the show when he’s not involved (and Mark as well for that matter).
Voted like crazy for Riker. Do I think it made a difference at all? Nope. He will either be underscored unfairly in the fusion dances tonight or he never had the votes all along to go against the other two. I am fully expecting him to place 3rd but would be happy if he managed to get 2nd. But living in reality, I know he isn’t winning. The best dancers do not always win these things. But at least I voted so Len… I can moan if I wan to. 😛
GL Riker and TBTB and Val, enjoy the win that was handed to you. I’m sure the MBT will look great on the Family mantel next to those Emmys…. oh wait…
Sorry. 😛
#wynn Derek voters are the wild card this season. It’s the first time since MBT Giveaway Part I (season 15) that there hasn’t been a Derek freestyle to vote for. Season 18 was, of course, MBT Giveaway Part II. The gross manipulation this season (the putative MBT Giveaway Part III) recalled all the distastefulness of Parts !&II, and gave rise to a great desire to thwart. We’ll find out tonight if it worked.
@eliza 25. Totally! Right at the end of Riker’s freestyle, when he hit the end platform with more of a hiphop section, I was like “wow, alright, finally here we go, I’m feelin this”…and then it quickly ended. Such a shame. His paso was definitely the more impressive number of the two.
Noah will most likely not win but in my mind he is the winner because he is up against two people with dance and performance experience.
Actually Suzy #32 we saw a derek freestyle season 15 with Shawn.
As for the last time a freestyle that won the encode also being by the contestant who won the whole thing, I think Amber achieved that as well.
DWTSGossip’s tweet with the Twitter counts have Riker and Noah in a dead-heat for the encore, with over 10X’s the number that Rumer has. However, that makes me worried that Riker’s fanbase didn’t vote – especially since his built-in fans are so young. Because of the staging mishap, would like to see Riker’s done again.
Honestly I think the only thing that will stop Val from getting his promised trophy tonight is the beginning of the Rapture and he’s the first one that gets plucked up off the earth.
The entire season has been leading up to this, the story line was clearly set and the producers painstakingly managed every little detail to make it so. I just don’t see any other outcome happening. Call me a cynic but yeah.
I think Rumer performed very well what was given to her, as the great professional she is, but what was given to her wasnt exactly creative, original or different from anything they’ve done this season.. But the judges raved about it… This has probably been the most onedimensional couple I remember seeing in a very long time on this show. And I actually like Rumer, if I didnt enjoy this partnership more it’s because of Valentin’s choreography, the obvious and shameful favoritism from the show and the fact that every week it was basically the same dark and intense character… They like to call it “passionate”. Riker’s just as passionate without being dark. In fact he and Allison have taken a lot more risks this season and shown a lot more variety. I would be very disappointed to see creativity and innovation lose to tradition lacking imagination. And this comes from someone whose favorite pro until last season was Val. She’s definitely done enough to win, he hasnt. But they have the entire Hollywood on their side…
I think the encore dance is decided by the judges. So voting for the encore is pointless. I’d rather vote for someone to win the whole thing than to vote for an encore dance. I hope Noah wins the encore and Riker wins the show. But if Noah wins I wont be upset.
#Rachel You misunderstood — I said it’s the first time since season 15 that Derek hasn’t had a freestyle. That’s season 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 all had Derek freestyles.
Usually the encore went to the couple that went 4th. We can’t compare then with now.
I am SO hoping for a repeat of Season 16. Zendaya and Val were pimped to the heaveans and even though their Freestyle sucked, I was SURE they would win. Boy was I GLAD to be proven wrong! I hope the same thing happens tonight! Team Rallison!!
I better watch the show tonight on any empty stomach.. If Val wins I just might puke!
Even though I doubt Noah can overcome the difference, his journey on the show has been not only amazing but life changing. And Sharna is an absolute gem.
And then there’s Riker. I hope he wins! He had me from Captain Jack Sparrow and I never looked back again.
Thanks mods for all you do. Get some rest too!
I am expecting Val to win and for the FAM to be insufferable. I just think the storyline has been set from the start. Unfortunately, to me that freestyle was underwhelming.
Riker’s was too much like Alfonso’s for me.
To me, Noah and Sharna’s freestyle was amazing. It did what it was supposed to do. It was meaningful and impactful and told the final arc of Noah’s story. I really feel that they accomplished what they set out to do. Would they love to win…of course. They are competitive. But, like he’s said, he never thought he’d make it this far in the competition. So, in a way they are the winners of Season 20 for me. Their journey has been incredible to witness. And to CAI, if there is anyone on this show that has nothing to prove to anyone…it’s Noah. WTF was that comment even for?!? It was subliminally saying you have to prove you deserve to be here and you just failed at doing that.
And when Val does win..Maks, Tony, Henry and Artem will be the first ones out, hoisting Val in the air. leaving poor Rumer standing there until Derek runs out and puts her on his shoulders!! Because that’s what Derek does 🙂
I thought everyone did very well last night but of course I am rooting for Rumer and Val. I thought both dances were outstanding. I thought the freestyle was beautiful, yes it was simple in that it just showed them dancing and for me that is why it was beautiful. I have never been a fan of tons of other people being part of any of the dances and especially the freestyle when it is supposed to showcase the star and pro. I know many people want a big production and if they don’t get they don’t think it is a true freestyle. But for me simple is better.
I have zero clue who’s gonna win. At this point I’m torn between Riker and Rumer but, again.. no clue.
I like to think I did some good enough voting for Riker and Allison, but these teens are so unpredictable. Just really hoping they gained a good amount of old-time viewer fans and they voted for him.
That being said, I am at the same point where I was back in Season 18 — I don’t even care if Rumer and Val win anymore. I like Rumer a lot and I’ll be happy for her if she wins but I just do not think Val has earned it yet in any way shape or form. But whatever, just give the man his little trophy so he can go back home and make love to it or something (along with the fam). Maybe finally we’ll stop hearing the same ol’ “it’s Val’s turn to win!” “Val deserves it” “Derek wins too much. Let Val win for a change”. Just really would love for people to shut up about it. Maybe if Val finally wins he’ll stop getting ringers and actually be challenged with no pimping or anything.
One can hope…
@45 Nancy. I agree that less is more. Riker had the troupe in BOTH his dances.
Noah had them in one, although he said in an interview that they symbolized his mom, sisters, and friends who supported him after he got injured, do I am okay with that. It meant something….
I loved his journey and voted for him, but after reading remarks on social media, I kind of hope he loses. People are cruel now and I can’t even image what will happen if he wins.
I think this will be a short comment but- Val mentioned the “I haven’t won before” or Rumer maybe, I forget which but regardless, that’s really not the card you play this time around in the finale. It’s not even a card you CAN play, because none of the pros have won the show before. I’m torn between Rumer and Riker actually- I think I’ve seen more of Riker’s fans on twitter and IG compared to the other two, but then we must remember TPTB’s agenda. I also weirdly obsess over how many perfect scores each couple has, but if Rumer and Val get a perfect for their fusion, which with no doubt it will, they would’ve gotten 6 perfect scores, and the only others to do so have been Jennifer Grey and Meryl Davis. As far as I wasn’t a Meryl/Maks fan, at LEAST their routines were memorable and good, and pretty consistent, and Jennifer and Derek’s routines were definitely memorable as well, even if I don’t remember all of them. I’ll imagine too, as P. Heidi, that is Val and Rumer win, Val must have showcased the most lackluster choreo for a winning couple in the past 10 seasons.
On another note, wouldn’t it be fun to see a competition between some of the best couples?
Rumer lost the twitter vote for the encore by a huge margin. Noah and Riker both had 10 times as many votes as she did. That large a margin makes me wonder – maybe she isn’t getting a huge number of votes compared to the other two.
This may seem trivial to some, but even if Valenrue takes the MBT, I just can’t get myself to think/write/say they “won.” That debases the concept of winning. If they do get the trophy, they will have sleazed their way to it, making it a DWM Sleaze Trifecta. None of them was a true on-the-merits win.
Skipped the show last night but went to YouTube and watched the freestyle. Here are my opinions (disclaimer: not a dancer & a huge Derek fan) Noah: truly inspiring
Riker: joyful energy
Rumer: perfectly “uninteresting” 😉
I was one that gave my votes to Riker because of the way the show manipulated the audience. Did my votes win the battle against the machine? I don’t know but at least I fought. Each vote I sent out was me saying, “No, I will not be manipulated. No, I will not stand by as you treat an amazing woman like Nastia horribly.” We my have lost the battle but I do think we wounded the producers a little.
Thank you to all who work on this site. Without you I know I would stop watching dwts.
Hey, I’m just wondering where are y’all finding out the twitter vote count for the freestyle encores? -Sorry for I think this is a one liner?
hmm 🙁 I saw few pics of Allison in her freestyle costume they got the encore I guess. Praying 4r some miracle.Also, don’t quite get Krystn at times is she rooting for Noah or Rumer her pick is Rumer 4r win Riker coming in 3rd.
Boy, you guys have no long term memory do you?? Who used had a teacup and saucer in his dances? Val. Who had all kinds of troupe members in his West Side Story dance? Val.
Val is not above using the troupe. And he’s certainly not the only one to go stripped down this season – Derek and Nastia had several dances where it was just them.
So the DWM page on twitter just posted a video thanking Rumer and Val….it is actually laughable when you watch it because it looks like the same dance throughout because they are doing the exact same moves and Rumer is wearing the exact same outfits. Funny thing is…its a mixture of all of their dances this season…
I have watched every season of the show so far but have never voted until last night’s episode. Val’s “freestyle” last night changed that, all my votes to Riker. That “freestyle” was the most unoriginal ever and felt like Val was just flipping us off since he knows he has this in the bag already.
According to an interview that Mak did on a blog whose name is not to be mentioned(WP), Val has to win because he will then be the new face of DWTS! It is a gem of an interview btw! No end to the infatuation with himself and his brother. He also calls out Riker as a professsional. Classy dude.
Yeah that interview with Maks cracked me up. Apparently winning one MBT will make Val a superstar the likes of which DWTS has never seen and Val will be the face of the show.
If it wasn’t so hilarious I’d feel sorry that he was so pathetic.
Ooooooohsnap I just tweeted to DWM and pointed out how one note Val and Rumer were all season and I got blocked. Way to have your big boy panties on, guys.
I really want riker to win…but then I say just give val the mirrorball so he can stop whining that he havent won yet…because I dont need him coming back next season and if I like a couple they will also be cheated out a chance to win because it will all over again be “his season”…im sure for val and rumer fusion they will have something slow again…while riker have something fast..it seem like some people won during their 2nd season it would be crazy if that happened to allison tonight..and did dwts get moved back an hour for the stupid show the bachelorette..I going watch basketball.
I guess when your friend spend so much time throwing shades at Allison then she ends up in the finale with your “king of ballroom” brother, the only way you can redeem yourself is to say her partner who competed for a month, almost 10 years ago is a pro! Maks you’re making yourself look so dumb! He’s also forgetting who he won the whole show with! Double standards much?
If only they would use the time they spend whining and throwing shade at Derek, other pros and contestants, and use it to improve their choreography (like Allison did) they wouldn’t have to worry about losing the MBT so much to a contemporary dancer. But of course why work hard when you can play dirty games! Val and Maks think that the fans OWE them a win!!! Would you please check your bank account? You’re being paid for all those many seasons you’ve been on and haven’t won!!! No fan owes you anything!
The idiots think their success depends on winning. They don’t realize how many pros who have won are no longer on the show, while so many who haven’t are because of their choreography.
The producers have been desperately TRYING to make Val the new face of DWTS for a couple years now and it hasn’t taken. What makes them think a MBT will do the trick? Oh, right. Stupidity.
As long as Derek is around, Val isn’t going to be the face of anything. And I think Val knows that. The bitterness oozes.
Val is too intense, brooding, self absorbed and preachy to be the frontman of anything, if the show is looking for a new face, how about Emma, Sharna or Sasha? I know they haven’t been on the show long but they are much more personable. If the producers want Val as their frontman it will be a disaster.
I just thought it’d be worth noting that even today, a week later from Nastia’s elimination, she is trending as #1 on Yahoo news! Yahoo’s summary says something along the lines of the fact that people are really disappointed that Nastia isn’t in the finals and that Derek wrote about how upset he was to see the bad portrayal of their relationship. It really goes to show that people are really let down after yesterday night’s somewhat lackluster performances and are now starting to realize that a finals without Derek is not a DWTS final. I find it amazing that on the day of the finals, none of the top three vying for the MBT are trending, but Nastia is trending as #1 right now. YAY i can’t wait for her dance tonight. She needs to show everyone how much she improved this season and how much Derek’s choreo really means to DWTS fans.
if Sharna and Noah win tonight, I wonder the reaction of the DWM fam considering Sharna is technically apart of that clique (although I feel like she gets along with everyone)
although, I think Noah will get the encore tonight and then be eliminated first, sort of how they did with Bethany last season.
The guy cant even laugh or smile without looking boring or intense Val is too serious. Val can never happen on his own. They have to stick to DWTS for their careers its sad, look at him DWTS is his life no where to go after the season is over he goes on Tour with DWTS and then again back to being on the show. Its Kind of sad actually. Maks is still hanging around DWTS and acting like he will not return given a chance he will jump right back.Don’t know what ever happened to I am trying my hands at acting. The C bros cant happen on their own
Bethany was eliminated the day before. They didn’t do the overnight fusion challenge. But they did get the encore — Motough fans didn’t have anything else to do but tweet for the encore.
i just wanted to say thanks. ive enjoyed this site (never been on b4 this season). ive been a very passive viewer of dancing with stars since i started watching season 4 (whichever was dereks first season). mostly because of my age, and partly because i just enjoyed watching. however this season riker was on, which inspired me to start watching regularly again and to vote. i found this site and have really enjoyed “power rankings” and “dancing by numbers”. so I just wanted to say thanks (sorry this is so long).
Val will not be able to replace even Mark, yet alone Derek. He didn’t have what it takes to be a frontman. He’s backed up by the Familia who aren’t professional with their attitude. He may win his gold MBT but that’s it. To me he doesn’t have that stage presence, charisma to be the “face” of DWTS. For example, his show Sway. I understand they are only concentrated in NY but Move Tour was in NY, NJ, CT(?), PA last year yet the DWM are trying hard to sell their tickets. Move Tour tickets sells so quickly in Radio City. Sway has most of DWTS pros with them which to me should attract many people or fans from all the pros (Sharna, Peta, Maks, Henry, Val plus Zendaya and now Amy, Emma). If Val is that good, Sway will not have a problem selling their tickets no matter how many times they performed in NYC. People from the tri-state area will travel easily. This is why I’m hoping Derek to move on when his contract with the show is over. Maybe that way people will appreciate him more. This show will never be the same without him.
Julianne and Derek WOW just WOW! loving Derek’s new hairstyle sooo handsome!
Riker looked so great in that blue! Of course Erin cuts him off and they get to say nothing after their score–two nights in a row now!! uggh really??
#jillglove just to add Riker/Allison used the troupe a total of 2 times the entire season Disney and the freestyle. I’d say that’s pretty minimal compared to how often they are used these days.