Private Members Area – DWTS Season 21 Week 4 Discussion
It’s time for Dancing with the Stars Season 21 week 4 and you know what that means. Time to enjoy some friendly, educated banter in the Pure DWTS Insider. If you’re not a Pure DWTS Insider yet, you can do so here. If you are, then I look forward to the discussion in the comments.
Week 4 is “Most Memorable Year” week. How many of you shed some tears? Do you love this or was it too much of a repeat of their first week? What did you think fo the dances? Any stand outs?
What did you think of Tom being gone and Alfonso being there in his absence? How about the elimination? Any other tidbits you need to share? Let’s hear it!
Next week is Partner Switch-up. I’m thinking of doing a live video stream (Blab) to discuss the switch up before the show on Monday. Let me know if you think this is a good idea and if you’d like to join.
It was such a good show. I am so angry at Carrie Ann. It seems to me she is always tougher on Derek and his partners about these lifts. When has she EVER called Val for a lift? John, I hope in the interview you get to confront her gently about this. I get not wanting to hand out 10s this early in the season, but then how do you compare this dance to Tamar and Val, only one point better. I think not. Bindi, so full of emotion, it broke my heart to understand what she is going through. It is so hard to lose a parent anytime but when you are young, it writes on the soul of your life. She presents such a cheerful and joyful attitude, but tonight I think we saw what perhaps her family sees in her moments of grief and sadness. The emotion was overwhelming for me. I guess I should have waited to write because I am still so caught up in the Bindi and Derek dance.
I have one more question. Do you all really think that Val fans will vote for Tamar to dance with Derek? I just don’t think so.
For me the show had two extreme highs – Bindi’s dance and Sasha as Bruno. Both magnificent.
I loved the show last night. I loved Derek and Bindi’s dance the most. They were off the hook.
And can I just say….I hope Paula sticks in there. Iām really loving her and Louis’ journey and their partnership so much more verses what we are seeing with Andy & Allison, Carlos & Witney, or Alexa & Mark.
Of course not, Lynne – those bitter little hags have likely been voting their fingers off to put him with Paula. Not only are they likely terrified that Val can’t choreography for someone with no experience at all, but that Tamar, like NeNe, would come back to Val raving about Derek. š That’s a big risk for them.
Of course, they will likely get what they want because I just am not seeing the passion to vote in the Derek fans. My general sense is that they aren’t sweating it overly much – or they are more worried about Bindi than they are Derek. I’m sure they don’t want Derek with Paula – I’m just not sure that they don’t want it so badly that they will spend tons of time voting for something else.
That is what I expect as well. That may be enough to bring back the old Louis too PH. Given what they said about Tamar with Louis “at this time” doesn’t that sound like they will ignore the bots. Perhaps I am giving them too much sensibility. I can’t imagine Tamar and Louis were really being paired up by voters, but I could be wrong.
I teared up during Bindi’s dance last night, but it wasn’t until I watched her dance back this morning that I found myself actually crying. Her package was heartbreaking but her dance was so uplifting and positive. Derek really created a thing of beauty with her last night.
Nick & Sharna were also a good standout for me. I do fear that his story probably got lost in the shuffle a little bit with some of the more emotional stories hat were told, but hopefully his dance sticks in people’s minds.
I liked Alfonso better as a host than a judge. It felt more natural to see him in that position.
As for the switch up – It’s just one week. And if Derek does end up getting Paula, then so be it. But I’ve also heard Courtney talk about how Alexa/Derek was going pretty strong as well. And it seems impossible that Bindi/Mark won’t happen. So by process of elimination IF Alexa/Derek happens, Paula goes to Val and I’m sure the Chmerkovskiy Mafia will lose their minds. That said, it’s a big IF. I really did want Tamar with Derek for the switch up week, but they confirmed last night she’ll be with Louis so I can only imagine what will happen with the other three gals.
Question: Will we know the switch-up pairs before Monday? Either by an ABC announcement or something? I don’t know if that’s been asked here before or not, so I’m curious.
Did they confirm that Tamar will be with Louis, or only that it was likely?
I do think Tamar and Derek would be awesome, but none of the other combos of pro/celeb really get me excited.
No confirmations on anything yet – but a quick look at the numbers last night makes me think that the female celebs will go Bindi/Mark, Alexa/Derek, Paula/Val, Tamar/Louis.
Tony,
I don’t remember if ABC announced the pairs beforehand or not, but I have to imagine we’ll get some leaks, pictures, etc. They’ll want to milk it for what they can I think.
@Fig: I do remember hearing Alfonso saying something about “At this point, Tamar will be with Louis” but I don’t remember when he said it. But I know it was mentioned. Not really a confirmation, so I misspoke a little because it was one of those “There’s still time to vote, but here’s what we’ve got so far” type situations.
Thanks a bunch, John! š
oh my. I wouldn’t have guessed a single one of those pairings. Mods? Anything you can share back here in the super secret dark room? And do you think the last minute pro change was due to scheduling or straight up politics?
I don’t like the switch-up week. I wish they would scratch it from the show forever.
I don’t mind the switch up week in general as I find it a bit more intersting than some of the themes they choose these days. However, I really wish they would use actual tweets rather than just doing what they want.
I feel like Bindi got the most tweets of all for a female celeb and most of her tweets were with Mark. I can see Tamar with Louis by default and Alexa with Derek as I know a lot of people tweeted for them to be together, but I really don’t see the Bindi and Val and Paula and Mark partnerships happening. Really a bit baffled here.
In terms of the male celebs, it seems insane that a bot would win out. Even Emma said with Glamour that she really thought she was going to be with Alek based on tweets. I through an occasionally Alek/Emma and Hayes/Lindsay at the end of my tweets, but other than that, I’m glad I didn’t spend an excessive time tweeting.
Side note which is really not of importance at all- Looks like there is a new(er) Kaitlynn which has two N’s on her name. Totally fine as they are not the same name, but just throwing it out for other members to avoid confusion because we don’t always have the same opinion š
Can someone explain to me what being put on Moderation means. So am I saying goodbye to you all or what?
Lynn, no one is saying goodbye. I’d step away from that topic now and let it go. Go into some other topics instead and discuss things.
Vogue you know I am a peaceful person and have no problem with walking away but I was called names and threatened. That isn’t ok in my book. I haven’t done or said anything wrong and I deserve an apology.
Don’t hold your breath, Lynn. Saying that you were acting like a hyper fan girl is hardly name calling. And threats? I think I have pretty strong grounds to sue you, since the only thing I threatened you with was moderation, which is fully within my rights to do as someone who is a moderator on this site. Being a private member does not entitle you to dropping snarky one liners into a conversation in an attempt to stop or disrupt that conversation. I asked you to stop it, and you started threatening *me*. I think you best look in the mirror when calling people “bullies”. From where I’m sitting, YOU have earned that title.
Now, this conversation is OVER. You still have posting privileges but you won’t for much longer if this keeps up. The only thing I’m sorry for is that our members had to read what should have been a private conversation – but you took it very public, so that’s where it stays.
Got a few behind-the-scenes tidbits from Deep Throat…
*Apparently Carlos was REALLY hoping he got Allison…no idea why, but I agree with him, because I would have rather seen Lindsay with Hayes.
*Nick can’t remember the name of the dance he’s doing. He keeps saying “Man…it’s not tango, it’s that OTHER one…uhhhhh….”
*Val says he was a Backstreet Boys fan back in the day…and that A.J. was his favorite Boy.
LOL to Nick! Too funny!
Court, thanks for the treats from Deep Throat!
* Allison was my switch-up choice for Carlos, so he gets points for agreeing with me. š I think their energy would have matched pretty well and Lindsay would have been a better fit for Hayes. It really makes me wonder what end game TPTB are trying to get to.
* Love the idea that Nick can’t remember his dance style. Question: Would a Paso Doble by any other name look as good? Sorry, couldn’t help myself.
Some more fun bits…
*Apparently they filmed some little “extra” that is going to get aired on a results show or something, and they polygraphed all the celebs and pros while asking them various “yes/no” questions…here’s some of the revelations that came out of that…take with a grain of salt, cause I’m not sure if the polygraph was real or fake…
*Nick thinks Witney is more fun than Sharna
*Nick also thinks Derek has won too many times
*Nick also thinks that he & Sharna deserve better scores
*Val has been intimate with at least one of his partners
*Val feels he has been robbed of a MBT
*Derek does NOT feel like he has been robbed of an MBT, but he does feel like he should have won more (this one kinda confused me)
*Val thinks he’s the best pro dancer, and better than Maks ever was
*Derek think Maks makes a good judge
*Derek was not a Backstreet Boys fan growing up, but Val was
*Derek doesn’t think Bindi will get higher scores with Val, but he thinks he can Alexa higher scores
*Derek thinks Val is a better dancer than Mark
*Apparently Carlos is not popular with the production staff, as they think he’s kind of a jerk and very controlling of Alexa. Apparently he farts on her – but she’s not allowed to even mention farting in his presence. Starting to get why there might be some friction between Mark & Carlos…cause Mark doesn’t seem to stand for that sh*t.
Don’t want to be a buzzkill, but I gotta say, I’m not liking this little “extra” and don’t think it’ll be fun to watch. Taken individually, the revelations are interesting (and some sound plausible). However, just looking at the answers they have, I can see how easily TPTB will be able to spin them to make Val come across sympathetically while making Derek out to be an arrogant a$$. I remember the last Dance Center had a pretty mean edge to it which took all the humor out of it as far as I was concerned.
As for Carlos, what a jerk. There have definitely been undercurrents of serious chauvinism from him. So this revelation of his vulgar behavior towards Alexa doesn’t surprise me (and yeah, Mark would have big problems with that). What amazes me is how often successful, financially independent, apparently intelligent women like Alexa are willing to put up with this kind treatment from their spouse. I get that she’s a Christian and the doctrine includes a lot of schlock about submitting to your husband. However, I believe being respectful towards one another is also high on the list of thou shalts for married couples.
Yeah I’m not liking this “extra” bit either. I have one word “BOO”. Talk about trying to stir up the pot.
I think I’m just DVR’ing this episode. Each season I find myself more and more turned off with Switch up week concept.
Really? Carlos is a TOOL. I remember there was a show “I’m Married to a Tool”.. or something like that. Maybe that should be his next reality gig.
Agreed, Sandy. I always DVR DWTS to get past the seemingly endless commercials between every dance. Plus it has the added bonus of letting me FF past the bits I know will just make me angry. I enjoy the show a lot more now that I can just focus on the dancing. I start watching the recording halfway through the live broadcast and by scrolling through the commercials, etc. I’m caught up by the end of the live broadcast.
Switch-up is an interesting concept and I think it could be fun if handled properly. TPTB just ruin it (as usual) with the way they implement it.
I used to work for one of the largest polygraph manufacturers in the world (located in Lafayatte, Indiana) and have taken literally hundreds of polygraph tests for demonstrative purposes. There’s a reason they aren’t admissible in court. So much depends on the test-taker, the test administrator’s skill (and intimidation level) and even how well you’ve slept or what medications you use. I have fooled polygraphs, had false-positives for lies, and have had accurate interpretations – all in the same day. They’re a great tool and provide a fun narrative, but they are very, very subject to so many variables that I wouldn’t worry if your favorite pro/celeb doesn’t come across in the best of lights – but we know that’s not how TPTB will spin it.
As for Carlos farting on Alexa, I have to say that is one of the things I feel weirdly strong about. I just find it so immensely disrespectful that it’s a deal-breaker for me as a person. A bit random and bizarre, I know – but I think it’s a very gross way to show dominance and I have let every guy I’ve ever dated know how serious I am about them never doing it. I am as light-hearted, goofy, and forgiving as anyone I know – but keep your flatulence off me.
@Cidra – To answer your question about the Bindi/Val rehearsal hullabaloo, what you’re hearing on social media is probably right, given that I tweeted it out originally – although I’m interested to see what kind of “telephone” treatment its gotten š Basically, Val was getting really frustrated with Bindi during rehearsal, and said something along the lines of “I don’t know why you aren’t getting this!”. It spurred Bindi to blame herself, and she said something like “I’m sorry, it’s my fault, I’m just getting frustrated”, and I guess a producer witnessed the exchange and told Val he was being a douchebag.
Also heard something about Val being “shocked” that he got Bindi, and actually went on to blame bloggers for Derek & Mark always exchanging partners and keeping him from ever getting one of theirs. I’m sure he wasn’t referring to us š
Hi – Longtime (like years, lol) lurker here. *waves* So, if I’m not doing this right please be gentle on me! Courtney in your post with the info about the polygraph you said you weren’t sure if the polygraph is real or fake. Well, I have to much time on my hands during a conference call here in the office today and was hitting some of the people tagged in various instagram pitures. The guy sitting at the laptop giving the polygraph in the picture Witney tweeted is one of the shows producers, Adam. I don’t know how much personal info is appropriate to give but if you or Heidi or someone wants me to give you the name/instagram name I’m happy to. Another producer posted a picture of her getting a polygraph and tagged him and it’s the same guy in Witney’s picture. I just thought I’d throw that out there because it seems to confirm the polygraphs were likely fake and the answers are probably scripted to fit TPTB narrative.
wow, that was really convoluted so me and my side eye will be going back to the corner now!! Hope that helps though!
That’s very interesting Jen – and maybe the celebs/pros are in on it, maybe they are none the wiser. But that just confirms to me that this is all a part of their narrative, and not anything that the “wiser” fans should fall for – unfortunately the masses may not think as critically about what they are presented with.
@Jen – Hi! And thanks for posting. š
Leaving some space here…. I’m sure everything on this show is producer driven so your comment makes perfect sense.
And as far as Carlos releasing himself on Alexa – That’s gross, disrespectful, rude, and immature. Honestly, I can’t believe that he would do that in front of other people.
Makes me wonder if the problem with Mark is not Alexa, but Carlos.
I don’t know which was worse, the switch-up dance or having a married couple compete against one another on the show. *thumbsdown* to both
Carlos’s behavior reminds me of an animal marking his territory. It is without a doubt disgusting. More importantly, Alexa puts up with it — and probably a lot more. In an interview yesterday Alexa told the story of Carlos saying if they both made the finals, “you know you’d have to let me win.” The fact that she thought this an appropriately “cute” anecdote speaks volumes. It hardly reflects well on him, and there’s no good answer for her, particularly after her Monday night response to Alphonso’s comment. This is all very messed up. I think Alexa will probably have a great dance with Derek because: 1) it’s Derek; and 2) this week is a break from the competition drama in which she’s drowning.
Interesting tidbit about Carlos’ control over Alexa. Didn’t someone mention how awkward she seemed in the memorable year dance? Might explain her behavior. Spectulating of course, but Carlos might be telling her how to act and what to do on the show. And like it was said, could be why Mark seems so disengaged sometimes. Especially if Alexa doesn’t see anything wrong with it’d be hard for him to navigate their rehearsals. Carlos reminds me of Corbin. Good, but just can’t quite put my finger on what I don’t like.
I am/was a fan of Val, but he is making it harder and harder to like him. He seems so appreciative of his fans, I usually like watching him dance, he is easy on the eyes, but then BAAAMMMM, he opens that mouth… SMH. Derek is the total package for me. No doubt about it.
Court, Derek is on record saying he thinks he and Shawn should have won. But I’m sure he doesn’t feel “robbed”. He’s probably the only one who can think both things at the same time.
I suspect Nick is beginning the audience manipulation for the producers.
So I wonder if Val being a d-bag will make it into the package on Monday. If Val didn’t want(or was surprised to get) Bindi who did he want?
Also I wonder how Derek will react to Bindi getting the Val d-bag treatment. He just seems to be very protective of her.
I doubt it will make it into the package, and I’ll be accused of fabricating the whole thing – just like when I said that Val was kind of awful to Meryl during the season 18 switch (he was, but they picked the least inflammatory parts to show). But at this point, I’m past trying to convince people of anything. For some, Val could hit a baby in the face with a dead hooker and they’d still defend him (“Maybe the baby deserved it! Maybe he was trying to revive the hooker with a good hard slap! HE SAVED HER LIFE!!!!”). As for who he thought he was going to get – I think he probably thought he was going to get Paula. Which is why I thought his tweet about “y’all voted” was a bit of a taunt to Mark – he was laughing at the fact that Mark got stuck with her, and that he skated by with Bindi.
Derek, being ever the diplomat, will probably say nothing – at least nothing within earshot of cameras. I think he’s been holding his tongue less and less in recent seasons where the other pros are concerned, though…
@Court, Sorry for the slow response. I got pulled into an unscheduled meeting at work. Thanks for filling me in on the unsavory details. I should check Twitter because then I would have known what was going on and that it was from a reliable source! I just can’t bring myself to get out to the Twitter-verse very often.
So Val is being Val and Bindi is being Bindi. No surprises there. At least the producer called him on it. I’m sure Bindi is strong enough to survive a week with the douche-bag and there’s such a strong trust bond between her and Derek, that he’ll be able to restore any confidence that Val temporarily dented.
Hi! Everyone…
I thought it was about time I started supporting PureDWTS after this being my 4th season as a regular member. Even, though I don’t spend a great deal of time on my desk top p.c., which is my only computer and I still use a old “flip” cell phone LOL! I’m pretty good I guess even with my health issues and old age. I left the other ABC website and came here 4 seasons back and have been so much happier socializing here. (it looks like the ABC DWTS board is closed)
I really appreciate all the moderators and manager (s)? I started bloging about 4 + years ago and it’s been quite a new experience.
And now my thoughts:
I have noticed that Mark is not very enthusiatic this season. He has a beautiful quite potential celeb and older for a change. After reading some of these posts here, now I can understand Mark’s lack of enthusiasm.
It saddens me that if Carlos is like this with Alexa; why would he bother to make his “Most Memorable Year” package about finding God and Alexa. As a person of faith he has some growing to do in the area of husband and wife and their responsibility to each other. Maybe this switch will be a good thing and make a difference for Mark & Alexa. Something gotta give or Carlos could throw a monkey wrench in his journey and be sent home before Alexa. I am looking forward to seeing Alexa with Derek. The Master will work his magic.
Welcome KKat and Jen!!! Thanks for joining! x
Thank you! š @voguerista
Glad to have you both on board š
Thank you for the welcome! and for all the updates, I’m ecstatic #TeamAlma. š
Thank you for the welcome, Vogue & Courtney.
You all have become like family to me. I’m happy to become a supporter, and I understand the different between being in the regular member area and the private area. And, I will keep things private and keep them here, too.
As always, I will try to keep my comments respectful of others.
UPDATE:
I’ve been hearing on the news that Alek’s friend Stone, is doing great and will fully recover. I’m sure that will perk Alek up so he can give us his best Monday night.
Jen & KKat, great to have you in the members’ area. Jen, I hope you feel encouraged to join the conversation, but lurking is good too. KKat, I think you’re always respectful to others. Thanks for the positive news on Alek’s friend Spencer.
One of my favorite things about the members’ area is it’s a relatively safe place for Court to share special intel.
Thank you, Cidra! and great news about Spencer Stone.
I’m looking forward to chatting on Switch up Week with you all. š
I’ve felt after week one that Carlos was Mark’s problem, not as much Alexa. They seem to have good, natural interactions when Carlos is not around – in rehearsals and interviews, etc., but when Carlos is there, he fades into the background. Although one can also put the onus on Alexa for not managing the situation better, and likewise for Mark to not be so obvious – I think Mark is just not in a good situation and I empathize with the difficult scenario. Here’s hoping that some time with Derek will give Alexa some additional perspective and the will to stand up for herself, and my hope is that Carlos is gone before she is.
BTW, I actually wondered if the judges slight nitpicking of Carlos is a way for the producers to give him some well-deserved backhand without dragging his reputation down. Lord knows the producers have gone soft on a lot of shitty behavior, unless your name is Nastia then they make you look like a raging bitch (but we’ve already covered that).
Hi guys!
I’m just sick about what Court tweeted last night about Val being mean to Bindi. How could ANYONE be mean to such a sweet girl. Must’ve been bad if a producer called him a douchebag.
As far as the PenaVegas go…yes as Christians, women are called to submit to their husbands but that DOES NOT include abusing your spouse and I’d think what Carols is doing to Alexa is bordering on abuse.
Why do TPTB even have us fans vote for the switch-up if they’re gonna just throw whom ever they want together anyway? CAI wrote on her blog today that she thinks the judges ought to select the switch-up pairs.. the way this is going the last few seasons, I kind of agree with her.
I wonder if Alexa would go so far as to sabotage herself so that Carlos stays longer?
While I think Carlos is disgusting, I don’t know that Alexa has much going for her if she willingly puts up with that sort of behavior.
Isn’t that an ugly can of worms to open though, PH – with regards to Alexa’s role in their relationship? Not to get all off-topic, but questioning the motives/will of a person that submits in a potentially controlling/emotionally abusive/manipulator borders on victim-blaming for those that do stay in toxic/abusive relationships.
Sure as logical, reasonable people it’s difficult to imagine anyone subjecting themselves to that behavior for any amount of time, but I would a million times over put the responsibility on Carlos for his actions, than Alexa for submitting to it. It’s complicated, but these things always are.
PH To me, that was the implication of her response to Alfonso’s comment. Aside from it being, maybe, something to do out of wifely fealty, she knows best what she will face if she lasts beyond him. Considering what we’ve already learned about what is “normal” for them, she may have a point. I can’t imagine that she ever had the slightest inkling that their participation would trigger all this.
Sounds to me like the entire staff loves Bindi and aren’t willing to let Val be a dick without calling him on it. š
#Fig — I agree that it’s all coming from Carlos. But I don’t care as much about whether Carlos changes his ways as I do about Alexa developing self-respect.
#PH — That’s great news!!! I hope she feels the love and support.
Sure, Fig…but the fact remains that she won’t have much going for her if she doesn’t open her eyes. Of course it’s ugly. And of course it’s all on Carlos…but still…*her* life and career could still end up ruined and she is in a position to let that not happen. Yes, it will all be Carlos’ fault – but it will still have happened. Saying it’s all on Carlos and he’s an asshole is all true – but it does nothing for Alexa. I just hope that SOMEONE actually has the balls to say something. She might not even realize what he is doing and what she’s allowing – his behavior can be very insidious.
How could you not love Bindi… she’s adorable. Val on the other hand is a putz.
Bindi and Alek could give Nick a run for that MBT. Nick would definitely be the tour’s cash cow when it comes to ticket sales but I wonder if Bindi and/or Alek could bring in the big ticket sales as the tour’s headliner.
I maintain that final 3 will be Nick, Bindi and Alek. In seasons past, on FB DWTS posts and Insta, I’ve read a lot of “Derek has won too many times”. To be honest. I haven’t seen much of that at all this season with him partnered with Bindi. Most of the comments have been largely positive with only a few C-bro fans chiming in that Tamar is gonna win. I honestly don’t see her doing any better than 4th, with Hayes and an outside shot of Carlos battling it out for that spot.
I think that Tamar will make it to fourth place – because I feel pretty strongly that Alexa and Carlos are going out 5th and 6th. They just aren’t making an impact.
and if Hayes keeps up the stellar performances, I think he could edge out Tamar, Alexa and Carlos for 4th place. He seems like a sweetheart. Too bad he has Allison this week :/
I feel really sad after reading about Alexa. I can relate to her completely. I was in a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE relationship for seven years. It went to a point where I had to drop out of college, and I spent so much time just being out on sleeping pills just so I wouldn’t have to deal with my situation. I think and hope Alexa’s situation is no where near as bad as mine. I knew I was in a bad state, but I did love him, and I didn’t want to fail in a relationship. But eventually there came a point where I knew I had to get my life back on track. The hardest thing was cutting of all communication and stop replying to emails, texts, phone calls, etc, because I was used to forgiving everything. It took a long time to build back my life, going back to college, and eventually med school. But today I feel like a much stronger person. I wish Alexa the very best, and hope she understands how important it is to be with someone who respects her.
Thanks for the warm welcome, y’all!! FYI – this is the Jen that posted the polygraph info earlier. Sorry to the other Jen, I didn’t realize there was already another one posting! I can be JenA?
Yeah, I would advise JenA just so people who aren’t mods can tell who’s who.
Ugh! This is what happens when TPTB decide they must have a husband vs. wife storyboard on DWTS. Who needs it? Not me, that’s for sure.
There’s no way I can know enough about what’s really going on in Carlos and Alexa’s marriage to have an informed opinion on it. From what we’ve learned, I tend to think Carlos is a controlling, chauvinistic ass who treats his wife disrespectfully and that Alexa is misinterpreting the tenets of her faith which say a wife should submit to her husband, and therefore allowing herself to be abused. However, I’m sure it’s way more complicated than that, and I’ve (thankfully) never been in that situation. So I think I’m going to leave it alone from now on and just hope for the best for Alexa.
I think this inside information could go a long way to explaining why Mark seems so subdued and unhappy this season (especially on the live shows). I feel for him. He’s in a no-win situation. Also, as much as I respect Derek as a teacher and person, I doubt one week of working with him is going to produce an epiphany in Alexa and suddenly give her the courage, insight, or whatever to see that her personal life isn’t all it ought to be.
At this point, the best I can hope for is that Alexa is eliminated soon and Carlos goes out the following week.
You know and this may not be your experience, but many years ago I did some Child Protective Service work in Texas with varied cultures. We were taught and it really showed to be true, that when you approached a Hispanic male you did not call him out in front of his family. You asked him to leave his home, take him aside and speak with him. Even though my job was to investigate some of the worst cases of sexual or physical abuse, you still had to treat the male “perpetrator” with respect in front of his family. We were taught that the Hispanic male is head of the household and everyone answers to him so if you combine that with fundamental Christianity it could be very difficult for Alexa. Sometimes when empowered, especially males in marriages, take significant advantage of that. This is just my opinion and experience in a very small group of folks in this culture where admittedly there were other issues.
Oh and Val is having trouble teaching Bindi. What? He has all this experience teaching young people. I read that on his facebook. Imagine that. Gee Val did you forget or ignore that she never danced a day in her life before DWTS. Derek is gifted. Poor Bindi and taking it on herself, that just makes me mad.
@Cidra…#14
Thank you for the welcome.
It always amazes me how much you all know about Ballroom dancing and this show.
I agree with what you said about husband and wife on the show in the same season. I think it would work good if they both could have open minds and realize this is not a real competition and just be happy for each other and leave things like possessive, dominating, fretting about one out-performing the other, etc. out of the equation. The only thing they should bring into the rehearsals and dance nights is their TRUST for each other and total support; but at the same time feel free to give their full potential to the dance.
Sorry for the confusion everyone, I changed mine to my middle name.
-Jen O. ?
Yikes! Fit is hitting the shan on Twitter regarding Pure vs Val. I guess the moderators are hearing about it? There is some not-so-nice things being said. š
Sending out a hug to Ananya for sharing her story and how she came out on top. Good for you, Ananya.xxx And I too wish the best to Alexa. That is just disgusting what Carlos does to her.
Thank You Vogue, and I must say Derek had a huge part in me changing my outlook on life. I never really watched any tv shows, including DWTS. But i followed Bill Nye on twitter, and in 2013 he was tweeting about being on DWTS, so I checked out the show. That’s when I first saw Derek, and there was something about the way he spoke and his whole presence, that made me become a fan. I feel so much more optimistic, and most importantly I don’t look back on life with regret. I will always be grateful to him for that and I’m glad I was able to tell him that last summer.
Sooo awesome!!! I’m glad you did too!x
Ananya, brave story to share! It seems that you’re in a good place. š
Personally, Jillo – I think it’s hilarious. After his rant, every single thing he said about us, can be said about him. Too bad he’s not self aware enough to figure that out. Too bad for him I also screencapped the entire rant. Now….what to do with all this information….
Heidi, I am glad to hear your take on it. And have some humor in it. I screencapped it as well. I read some of his defenders comments too and they are pretty harsh with their words, just as Val was. One of the defenders kept calling you all ugly names. Particularily Courtney. š
After looking at the profile, I realized it isn’t even a “human” account. It’s someone HIDING behind a “pet/dog” account. Go figure. A bitch bitching about so-called “bitches”.
* meant: found some humor in it
Sheesh
He’s beyond delusional. He really ought to take a page outta Derek’s book by not responding to what he perceives as negative things because it only makes him look bad. And not once did he attempt to deny what DT told Courtney. I’m sure it was all caught on tape in the rehearsal studio. I also highly doubt he discussed Pure w/Derek. Saying Derek agreed that all the bloggers at Pure are crazy? Yeah right! He pulled that one outta his ass. I find this all very amusing tbh because his responses really do show how insecure he really is. If he were secure, he wouldn’t give a rats ass what anyone said about him!
Okay…who is the mole..lol? Who in here is running and telling stuff we learn here which I thought was private?? You mods hang in there. We know the truth. He can just get glad in the same shoes he got mad in. So will you post the screen cap in here???
Not me! Some random chick on Twitter stated she was able to get back here & was the one who re-tweeted what Courtney stated up thread.
Now Val has posted a Dubsmash of him & Bindi stating they’re BFF’s . Trying to do damage control there Val??
Yep, it would seem so. š
I’ve only been following Pure since last season and just joined the private members section. First I just want to say “hey” š
Second, I cannot believe he linked Courtney’s tweet. There’s no way I’d even acknowledge that if I was in his shoes! Good grief, that is crazy! I see some of the other pros get into it with fans social media but nothing to this level. I guess the reason I’m so shocked it bc I’m new to all of this. Maybe this happens every season and I just haven’t seen it before.
Hey, Mandi.
Some are insecure and need to rally their fans to their defense.
One of the things I’ve always admired about Derek is the discipline he displays in putting into action that which he knows to be true. He would never in a gazillion years waste his energy doing what Val is doing. He uses that energy for constructive purposes, of all kinds, in his life. Val depletes his energy so greatly with this farcical destructive behavior that it’s not available to him for anything constructive whatsoever. And as I said previously, I just don’t think he has the depth to really get this.
Wow!! I’m still learning to navigate in Twitter; I still don’t know how to vote on it. My old brain seems to get stuck in 1st gear, and I don’t like to sit at my p.c. for all this blogging and don’t have a iphone or smartphone yet. But, for someone to get into this private area and be a traitor against any of our moderators saying things on Twitter to any Pro is just pathetic. And, to support Pure by paying and becoming a private member, then go betray a private member, especially a moderator is just mind boggling to me. I don’t have that kind of money to throw around, especially for dirty, rotten deeds. Whoever this person is they are a sad example of a human being. Just had to vent. I’m okay now!
Wait a second — linking Courtney’s tweet didn’t require getting onto this site. It was over on twitter, accessible to anyone with a twitter account. What information was taken from here?
Is it possible though that a very computer savvy person could’ve hacked the site to get back here to see what was further discussed? I don’t honestly think that someone paid for a membership only to throw Courtney under the bus…but I could be extremely naive too :/
Not the Val info but the further info about the Penavegas & the lie detector. I saw that on Twitter yesterday or the day before & whomever posted it on Twitter stated she was able to get in here & screenshotted that info & posted it to Twitter..I should’ve screenshotted it myself but didnt
Kelly — Thanks.
I can’t see Derek saying us bloggers are crazy either. That sure isn’t what Derek said to Miss Heidi and I at his shows this past summer. Same with Julianne. He’s so full of it.
And that’s not even “Derek” anyway to call someone crazy or his fans.
Derek said he doesn’t even really read tweets anymore. So I would take that – and the rest of that over-the-top, maniacal rant by a certain male pro – with a huge grain of salt.
Let’s talk about something more interesting…like the fact that Alek & Emma seem to be doing more date-y things on their little getaway to Roseburg than the average couple. I am pleased with this development š
Hey everyone! I haven’t had much time to post this season but have been reading and just signed up for the membership for the first time.
The funny thing is, the more Val responds to all of his perceived ‘haters’ on social media, the more what they are saying all along looks true. He can’t handle any criticism at all. Who has the time to respond to every negative thing said on twitter? Who lets it bother them enough to need to respond? Those with the serious need for reinforcement from other every day for their ego and self-esteem. Kind of liek the people who post on facebook 30 times a day because they want reinforcement from people constantly? Except this is worse because at least you know who your friends are on facebook. Val is super successful but still needs reinforcement from strangers on twitter to feel good. He does well on DWTS, but doesn’t feel like anything is enough and doesn’t feel validated until he won that mirror ball. It’s really sad honestly. What a way to live. Especially when you have so much in your life to be happy about and positive about.
It is obvious that people like Derek and Julianne and other pros appreciate fan love but have an inner love and confidence in themselves that they would have even if there was no DWTS or if they never had fame, which is why they are so appealing.
I bet Derek doesn’t want any drama and could have made a comment to Val when he was upset that was supportive and against any negative drama social media between fan bases. But I doubt he actually thinks negatively of his fans on this site.
Sorry that Courtney had to make her twitter private, but it’s probably for the best!
I love Alma too, I hope they are having a good time together! š
As for this season, I am pulling for a Bindi, Nick, Alek, Hayes final. If there are 4. Have we heard if it’s 4 or 3? I feel like it might be 4, I heard there is one double-elim coming up but I think that would still leave 4 for finale week?
Courtney — And it’s his birthday!!!!! I couldn’t believe it. Emma seems to ve loving Oregon, at least the way Alek is showing it to her! I’m really excited to see their dance. The certainly have the chemistry, so if he can just learn the steps …
I swear, the stars have just aligned PERFECTLY for this week for Alek & Emma: they got the rumba, to a gorgeous song, and they go to have this awesome, scenic getaway weekend to Oregon, where Alek got to celebrate his birthday with her, sunsets, his niece, and cake š These two ought to have some WICKED chemistry come Monday. š
On “Seinfeld,” George Costanza used to talk about how important it is for a couple to have a great story about how they met. I would say Alma is Exhiibit A.
I think Alek n Emma make a cute couple! ? I think their Rumba will be spectacular!
I’m so so excited about #Alma, I guess their flying back to LA now or tonight, since tomorrow is camera blocking.
Court, I’ll honor your request that we’ll turn our attention to fun stuff in a minute.
To those who’re asking how some crazy Fam member could get into the members area and then share what they’ve found — my guess is, the same way you and I got in here. They paid the membership fee. I remember PH telling us in here last season that we had moles.
Our MODs know the regular nut-jobs who slam around on Pure, but if someone new comes along (or one of the crazies uses technology to mask their IP address) and pays the fee, they’re in.
Now on to fun things…
…can’t wait to see Alek and Emma’s rumba on Monday. I hope they’ve both had a lovely week in Roseburg — working hard on their dance but then finding time to just relax, unwind, and enjoy each others company.
Well, I am a little crazy, so there you go. š
This whole Alek/Emma thing is very sweet.
Mandi and EPmusic, happy to see you in Pure’s speakeasy (I like to think of it as Charlie’s Hideaway). š The bar’s at the back and there’s fresh-squeezed lemonade and sweet tea in the fridge — help yourself!
PH, you…crazy? Nah, you just got perspective, a good pair of brass clangers, and a flexible social finger.
LOL – I love that, Cidra. š
Wait…I’m supposed to be weeping in a corner….let me collect myself. š
Lemonade and Sweet Tea? WTF?? Oh, right, the lemonade has vodka and the Sweet Tea is the Long Island kind.
Courtney, I am so sorry for the ridiculous bashing you’ve been getting on Twitter. Its especially disappointing because the people being most awful seem to feel empowered because of what their…leader?…felt the need to tweet. True colors and all…
I also need to make a confession….I’m competely obsessed with #Alma. I couldn’t even focus on couch shopping today because so many cute pictures kept getting posted. #sorryhubby
@Courtney #87…
I think Alek & Emma is a terrific subject to talk about. I think these two are going to be great together. With Alek’s friend going to make a complete recovery and getting our sweet Emma for his switch, he no doubt is having a great week and will surprise the heck out of me out on the dance floor Monday night.
Haha! Thank you Cidra. Sweet tea makes me feel right at home š
I’m a little obsessed with Alma too, they are just precious.
I love Emma and Alek too! They are just sweet as can be. I love the way he smiles when he’s with her. So cute!
You guys are talking up Alek & Emma so much I’m not sure that they could ever live up to the expectation. So, I’m going to assume they’re going to be awful together so I’m not disappointed when the show airs š
Got a few more little tidbits from Deep Throat…
*Tamar & Louis’ samba is looking nice, but they also seem to be getting along well – DT thinks it’s because Louis actually listens to her ideas for the the routine.
*Mark & Paula getting along FANTASTICALLY. Both were kinda nervous at first (Paula apparently thought Mark was “edgy”), but apparently Mark really gets Paula’s sense of humor and they’re having a blast.
*Alek’s rehearsal package will include footage from the dinner he & Emma had with his parents š
I’m happy to hear all those things!! I’m excited to see some good dances a d packages. As long as Bindi comes back to Derek the way she left then I’ll be happy.
I am so glad to hear those things. I think Monday will be interesting to say the least. I’ll bet everything will look like sunshine and roses for Val and Bindi. And I just have to get this one thing off my chest. What adult goes to another adult and say…hey your friends/fans are being mean to me? Come on, grow up. What is Derek supposed to say. Sheesh.
Mandi, I thought you might go for the sweet tea.
John, you could be right. At this point, nothing short of Alek dropping to one knee on the dance floor and asking for Emma’s hand would satisfy. LOL Actually, I think I’d be happy just seeing Alek enjoying the DWTS experience again, with maybe just a hint of Cuban motion from him in the actual rumba.
Court, Great tidbits. I’m sure it’s a novel experience for Tamar to have a partner actually consider her suggestions. We might even see some expression in Tamar’s face when she dances this week. Very pleased to hear Mark’s having a good week with Paula. Oh boy, dinner with the parents–TPTB wouldn’t pass up the opportunity for that kind of romantic gold.
Thank you! Courtney for the info. Dinner with Alek’s parents, had to be such an honor for Emma. Now I’m even more excited for Monday night to get here.
It’s nice to see so much conversation among friends. š
I am loving the newest tidbits.. All very interesting. But I’m not surprised that Mark is enjoying Paula, heck I’m enjoying Paula. It just goes to show you that Mark is a professional and knows enough to just embrace the experience.
Funny thing is I really haven’t minded Louis this season one bit.
Shipping is totally not my thing. But Alek and Emma are so dang cute together.
Aww! Alek introduced Emma to his parents!! How sweet!!!! I’m not a shipper either but damn, I’m jumping on the #alma bandwagon!
I like everything about Bindi and Alek and I want them two in the finals for sure!!! I want to see them for as long as I can see them.
I think Alek and Emma are cute too. I hope everyone remembers to vote for the celeb and not the pro though. I fear a very surprising elimination if people don’t remember that. And really how can they do a double elimination? They are going to include scores from the switch-up which is kind of unfair to the celeb, but who cares what I think…lol. I found the quote on Val’s facebook interesting where he talked about he and Tamar and his teaching style. He basically says that the celebs have to understand that he is the professional and let him make decisions and they should just listen to him and do what he says. Man that explained a lot.
Well Val’s nonsense pushed me to finally join the member’s area here so there’s something good in that, right? He’s either incredibly insecure or actually believes he’s never wrong. One tiny bit of criticism and he has to explain himself. He’ll be onto something else soon enough.
Emma and Alek are too cute and it’s making me jealous! Haha.
@Kelsey – welcome to the members only section! It really is the best place to be.
I think it’s safe to assume Val is EXTREMELY insecure, pre-win and post-win. If anything he seems more insecure now. It’s a shame because I actually really started liking him in S16 because I think Zendaya had a positive effect on him and it was nice seeing him being genuine with a partner. It all went downhill as soon as Maks won and the producers started blowing smoke up the fam’s collective asses.
Enough about him though…excited to see how tonight goes!