DWTS Season 21, Week 10 – Who’s Dancing What…and When?
So, what kind of crazy assed, ridiculous, redundant and stupid theme will we have to endure in week 10??
Vogue here: LOL Heidi! Well, guess what? According to the Afterbuzz interviews (you can watch them in the new Media and Interviews Post), it’s “Trio’s” week! The couples also have a “ballroom” dance. Sharna revealed they will be dancing with Peta for their Trio dance (Yay! She’s back!). Lindsay said she and Alek have a Waltz and an Argentine Tango, but, they didn’t say for which dance. Also, JC Rubio tweeted that Emma will be back (not sure how yet?).
ETA2: As most of you have already heard, Tamar withdrew. Also got confirmation that Emma is in Alek & Lindsay’s trio (!!!!) and they have Argentine tango (double !!!), which means their individual dance is waltz. Also looks like Carlos revealed his dances & songs in some interview…sorry guys, just waking up to all this stuff, so let me know if anything is missing…and please provide a source 🙂 – Court-
ETA3: Apparently Victor mentioned in his Snapchat that Karina is in Carlos’ trio. Gonna trust you guys with anything Snapchat-related, because I hate it and can only be bothered to use it to talk to my sister. -Court-
ETA4: Per Derek’s blog, Mark is tentatively in their trio, depending on his injury, and it’s a jazz trio. Complete guess on my part, but if Mark can’t dance, I could see Sasha stepping in. Their individual dance is salsa, and he also mentions this mysterious “3rd dance” that TPTB have thrown in to fill time since Tamar withdrew. -Court-
ETA5: So, according to People.com, the mystery dance is a dance off where the winning couple gets 3 points. And yes, the manipulation gene is strong in these producers. Bindi is dancing against Nick – a samba which he has already done. Carlos versus Alek is a cha cha – which Carlos has already done. These…..people…just can’t help themselves. The BS just never ends. Ya know, with the way they add dances to this show, it’s not hard to find two dances that neither couple has done to at least attempt to make it fair.
ETA6: So per Deep Throat, apparently Carlos is no longer doing a samba trio, and the song they’re using is NOT the Austin Mahone one he mentioned. DT says it “looks more like a Charleston or jazz” and the song they’re using sounds “old-timey”. So what happened? Don’t know for sure – did Carlos misspeak? Did Witney veto the song/dance? Did Carlos just suck at samba and they threw him something he was more likely to handle well? Discuss. -Court-
ETA7: According to Derek, he and Bindi are dancing first tonight. Dance order doesn’t matter much at this stage of the game, but I do wonder WHY they’re going first. To be underscored, or to set the bar for the rest. ~Heidi
Trios:
Sharna, Nick, and Peta
Alek, Lindsay, and Emma – Argentine Tango
Tamar, Val, and ?
Bindi, Derek, and Mark (tentative) – Jazz
Carlos, Witney, and Karina – Samba (Song: “Dirty Work” by Austin Mahone) Charleston/jazz?
Individual Dances:
Bindi and Derek – Salsa (Song: “You’re Never Fully Dressed Without a Smile” by Sia)
Dancing 1st
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Alek and Lindsay – Waltz (Song: “America The Beautiful”)
Dancing 2nd
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Carlos and Witney – Contemporary (Song: “Drag Me Down” by One Direction)
Dancing 3rd
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Nick and Sharna – Tango (song: “Scars” by Alesso feat. Ryan Tedder)
Dancing 4th
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Tamar and Val –
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Dance Off:
Bindi Versus Nick – Samba
Carlos Versus Alek – Cha Cha
Yay for Peta being back!! Sharna and Nick either have a tango/waltz coz she said they have a ballroom dance next week and those are the only ones they have left. Hope it’s a tango so she can fix his frame and it can be seen.
So glad Trio round hasn’t been cancelled!
My guess for the Trios:
Alek, Lindsay and Emma
Tamar, Val, and Artem
Bindi, Derek and Mark
Carlos, Witney, and ? (since Lindsay is not available whould she choose Jenna or Karina or someone else?)
I get that Sharna and Peta are best friends and everything, but personally I was hoping Nick and Sharna’s trio would be with Karina, since it would’ve been a perfect opportunity to bring up Aaron’s stint on the show back in Season 9.
@Bia I also think it has to do a little bit with height as well, because isn’t Karina quite short compared to Sharna? But also Peta and Sharna always work together in trios if they can so I guess it would be weird to change that but I get where you’re coming from re Karina and Aaron
Really. You wait until WEEK TEN, WEEK TEN to have a “Ballroom” Round. This should have been weeks ago. I am not sure who I want less in the final To be honest.
If Emma isn’t with Lindsay and Alek, I’ll eat my hat.
I don’t want to see Keo in any trio dances.
Very happy to see Peta back on the dance floor.
As much as I love Mark, I really hope Sasha is the pro in Bindi and Derek’s trio dance.
If Witney is smart, she’ll pick Karina as the other pro, because HELLO, it’s Karina! You don’t pass up a chance to dance with her, if given the opportunity.
Well I’m guessing Bindi will be the only one not doing a ballroom dance since she already danced all her ballroom dances. All she has left is Latin (and Jazz & Salsa).
THANK GOD Alek is doing a Waltz and an Argentine Tango.. I feel like he could REALLY nail those two dances. I’m guessing the Waltz is his individual dance and the AT is the trio. A trio Waltz sounds.. odd 😛 Then again Mark didna trio Foxtrot with Sadie so who knows. Would have loved to see him do the Argentine Tango as his individual dance but a trio will do.
I’m guessing Val might choose either Artem or Tony. I’d love for Derek to pick Mark but I’d rather him choose Sasha instead because the dude’s awesome (and an Aussie like Bindi). Also hope they either have a trio Paso Doble or Jazz. That could be epic!
@Susan2 – I’ll eat half of your hat if Emma isn’t with Alek & Lindsay I mean.. IT HAS TO HAPPEN!! 😛
I bet Witney picks Jenna but she should pick Karina! I really enjoyed seeing Derek and Mark dance last night so I hope he picks him. Sasha would be fun but I think he went with him last time bc he was already dancing with Nastia.
Here’s to HOPING Bindi and Derek get Mark for their trio. I’d imagine Derek would fight pretty hard to get him. Also hoping they’re doing a paso for their trio! How epic would that be? Bindi dancing a paso with Derek AND Mark? I LOVE Mark’s pasos. His zombie paso with Sadie last year was SO GOOD.
If for whatever reason they don’t get Mark, I’d like to see her dance with Sasha. Or maybe Alan.
Bindi has the highest cumulative points so she gets last pick for the Trio. Just something to keep in mind.
Oh well crap…that kind of sucks. The only other couple that could pick a guy would be Val and Tamar, correct? Well, I guess maybe Lindsay and Alek could pick a guy pro as well…Mark did it last year with Sadie and picked Emma.
Maybe I’m naive, but I don’t know anyone else who’s really want Mark for a specific reasoning.
So glad that Trio dances are back. But I also want the plugged/unplugged night like Bethany’s and Amber’s season. I hope Bindi and Derek would get any dance for the Trio other than a Salsa or Samba. I’m not a fan of those trio dances which Derek choreographed including Shawn’s and Amber’s. I would like Mark to be there instead of Sasha. Sasha is great but there is something about Mark that I prefer. Plus, Mark have danced with a younger celeb before. Let us see. I have noticed that Bindi has no ballroom left and Paso is Latin, right? Hope that there would be no issues regarding the situation.
Happy that Peta would be back but I do not want her to be with Nick and Sharna just because these 2 pros together might outshine Nick. Nick hasn’t been a standout performer/dancer for me. He is good but not great in most of his dances. Some of his dances lacks content and has less appeal than the other. I hope it will not be like Tommy Chong’s trio where all my focus was on Peta and Sharna and their skimpy costumes.
I want Emma to be paired with Alek again so I hope this would happen in the trio. I also agree with the other comments that Witney might pick a troupe member. Maybe Jenna or Britney. I would like it if I am wrong but Witney should pick Karina in their Trio. That is Karina and she was amazing.Please pick her. Don’t care about Tamar and Val or should I say Tamar alone. I think they will pick Artem. Please no Tony, no Louis and NO KEO!!!!
My guess is everyone is that most are assuming that Alek and Lindsay will have Emma in their trio… And from PH’s comment, Alek would have first pick since he has the lowest score, right? But for some reason, I just feel like the producers are going to make sure that doesn’t happen. I was skeptical that he’d get her for switch-up too, so maybe I’ll be wrong.
I will say that these should be great dances for him. If he gets the votes this week like he’s seemingly been getting, he may get to the finals. But all the drama last night may have stirred some fan bases. I’m really hoping Tamar bows out…
I actually hope Bindi’s not doing the Paso like a trio dance. I love this dance so much I just want to see her dancing it only with Derek. But if she’s doing it as a trio, I hope she won’t have Sasha because I feel like he does better with fun dances in terms of performing skills.
I’d like to see Bindi do a Samba for her trio dance and Paso with Derek this week,if they can’t save it for the finals along with a Jazz 😉 Wishful thinking on my part! I think Derek will ask Mark to be their 3rd. I see him going with a male pro as opposed to a female pro. But it would be nice to see Karina out on the floor again 😀
Well, dancingfeet, you heard Witney ask Carlos during the dance off if he wanted to “mess with them” – there’s your answer right there. Pick Mark so Derek can’t use him.
1.Alek, Lindsay & Hayley
2.Bindi, Derek & Mark
3.Carlos, Witney & Britteny
Lynn, WTF? SOURCE.
I am so excited trios are back! They are my favorite “theme” if you can even call it a theme that the show has.
Sharna/Nick/Peta is a great pairing, I’ve missed Peta!
The other couples if I had to guess…
Lindsay/Alek/Emma
Val/Tamar/ torn between him choosing Artem or Jenna, he did pick Peta last season so I could see him trying to do something different and choosing a female.
Witney/Carlos/Jenna or Brittany (depending on if Val picks Jenna)
Derek/Bindi/Mark
Also thrilled to learn that the “theme” for the main dances is ballroom….wow week 10 and a theme that actually fits the style these celebs are assigned.
Trio week and Team Dances used to be such a big night on the show, but I feel given the use of the troupe these days these dances no longer stand out as much … I really hope for the ballroom round we see just the couples out there, look at Bindi and Derek’s v/waltz it was magical and was just the two of them.
Excited to see Peta back, missed her on the dancefloor.. my ideal choices for this week would be:
Nick with Sharna and Peta
Carlos with Witney and Alan (deserves a chance and they spend a lot of time together backstage)
Bindi with Derek and Sasha
Tamar with Val and Artem
Alek with Lindsay and Emma or Karina
Has Peta been cleared to dance? I didn’t think she had been cleared to be back on the show.
Has anyone ever had the same trio partner as switch-up partner? I know these themes don’t occur in every season, but I’m wondering if they are encouraged to spread it out…
“Bindi has the highest cumulative points so she gets last pick for the Trio. Just something to keep in mind.” (PH, p#10).
Indeed but I can’t see Mark or Sasha (my top two hopes for Crikey trio partners) being legit choices for any of the remaining contestants. Thinking they’d go Mark first given the fanbase, loyalty, creativity and familiarity.
p.s. Carlos would have to drop Wit on her head a few more times before she would want him spotlighted dancing beside a male pro.
“So glad that Trio dances are back. But I also want the plugged/unplugged night”
Same here, Lucas. Why is it that we have to endure all these asinine theme weeks while the ones with actual merit get shelved?
I carlos and whitney to pick bethany , anna or emma .
I can’t see (most likely) Mark or Sasha being logical choices for any of the remaining contestants other than Bindi, so hope that pans out. As for Witney going for Mark to stick it to Team Crikey, Carlos would have to drop her on the ol’ noggin’ a few more times before she’d want him spotlighted next to a male pro like that.
Court, FWIW, Peta looked in fine dancing form in this morn’s GMA segment. Granted it’s not DWTS clearance per se, but it was a segment for the network show and she certainly looked up to the trio task if cleared.
Trio week is fun, but I reallllly miss Latin Night, especially that openeing number last season. Also, it’ll be exciting to see Peta back, but I kind of wish Cheryl switched back networks to ABC.
My predictions but not necessarily my choices for trios week are:
Carlos and Witney with Jenna
Bindi and Derek with Mark or maybe Sasha (hopefully doing a salsa (Amber style))
Tamar and Val with Artem (hopefully doing an argentine tango)
Alek and Linday with Emma
Also, does anyone have an update on Tamar’s condition? If she doesn’t feel well and drops out, would Mark and Alexa be able to come back into the competition?
Apparently on the View Mark said he was injured (didn’t see it yet). Guessing this might mean he won’t be in a trio.
Peta had originally said she was going to be back at DWTS in week 7 or 8 in group numbers so she’s had longer than expected to recover I guess.
@Ilovepure Sadly, no. Since Tamar had the votes to be safe and did make it to the studio, and Alexa was the one who really had the lowest number of votes she had to leave unfortunately.
The only trio I’m interested in is Alek, Lindsay, and Emma. Pretty please? Make it happen!!!
@Courtney I watched the afterbuzz periscope last night that someone tweeted out. Sharna then revealed Peta was joining them and Sharna said she saw Peta’s picture on the board for options and they immediately picked her. Guess she has been cleared since she is committed to the tour.
Mark did say he was injured. He couldn’t dance on The View because he said he had a piece of glass in his heel and it was swollen and painful. I would give you a link but you know I am not very tech savvy….lol.
Looks like Bindi and Derek have a samba according to what they are practicing on snapchat
Well dang! I REALLY wanted to see Bindi and Mark dance together. I originally wanted them to be paired together. I guess I’m all for Sasha being in her trio, then.
Yikes.. maybe it’s a blessing in disguise that he left last night then. Also, just watched the snapchat. Dance savvy folks, could it be a Salsa also? Or Just Samba?
My predictions
Bindi Derek – Mark/Sasha depending on Mark’s injury
Nick Sharna – Peta confirmed
Alek Lindsay – Emma
Carlos Witney – Brittany
Tamar Val – Jenna, but it wouldn’t be surprised to see Artem because if Peta was allowed to be picked from the board then I’m guessing Artem would have been as well.
Tamar has pulled out of DWTS as per her IG post. She has several blood clots on both sides of her lungs, not Pneumonia,
So with that, are they now going to have a three person finale instead? Or just no elimination this week?
Is it possible now that Tamar is out for Alexa to come back? Or will things continue as it is and progress with a 3 person finale like last year?
They should let Alexa come back. it’s only been 1 day since the show.
Tamar should’ve just withdrawn on Monday night and Alexa would still be in the competition. I can’t help but think Alexa must be a least slightly mad about that.
Almost like someone beating you for a job and then they quit the next day.
Since Tamar has withdrawn from the competition as per her IG, I think she made the right choice, Alexa should be back to take her place since only a day just passed. However, if Mark is really injured then it might not happen.
I doubt that the trio week will be a non-elimination one. I think TPTB would make it a 3 person finale like last season which sucks because Nastia needs to do a freestyle and it would be awesome. If this is the case, we have a clear finale with Bindi, Nick and Alek.
If Alexa came back though that’d mess up the next elimination wouldn’t it? No one on the west coast or east coast would’ve voted after the show cause she left. So she can’t come back. Tamar withdrew too late. It’d be different if she bowed out Monday night but she waited till after voting by phone AND online was over.
That said, Alexa got really screwed over cause of that.
***voted for her (Alexa)
Sorry didn’t catch that till after I posted.
Alexa would not have received many/any votes seeing, at least speaking for myself, people don’t normally vote for celebs once they are eliminated. She probably has the lowest votes so then she’d just get eliminated again…right?
Would any of us what to come back knowing we didn’t get the votes? She’s off and is starting to put it behind her and they they pull her back in? She may not want that airing during the commercials break.
Then again, there’s alway the $$$& factor.
I’m pretty sure Peta has been cleared to dance by her orthopedic surgeon. 😉 She and Maks did that undercover dancething on GMA not too long ago
So now I guess one of three things happen, three person elim, no elim, or Alexa comes back. I don’t think Alexa coming back is an option as it would void Monday’s vote. I reckon it depends on who has the next lowest combined total of votes and scores. If it’s Alek I think they’ll go ahead with the elimination and have s three person finale, but if it’s Carlos I think they’ll have no elimination and let him in the final. They’ve pushed him all season to make the final and I can’t see them letting him fall in the final hurdle.
*three person finale
Seems like they were planning on a 4 person finale. So I think that no one gets eliminated on Monday.
Carlos posted a vlog on his Youtube channel and revealed that he’s doing a contemporary, and a samba trio to Austin Mahone’s song Dirty Work (he talks about them at the 4:13 mark)
Also Carlos’s contemporary is to One Direction’s Drag Me Down
Tamar post is up: https://www.puredwts.com/2015/11/11/puredwts-season-21-week-9-tamar-braxton-withdraws-from-dwts-cancels-remainder-of-tour/ I’m going to politely ask that you guys continue the discussion about her there, just so every post doesn’t turn into the “Tamar discussion post”
Well, since Tamar withdrew, and if Mark can’t dance, I’d love to see Derek/Bindi/Val. I loved her and Val’s cha cha. But like I said if not Mark/Val, then Sasha should definitely be partnered up with them.
Like I said in the live blog, Tamar was extremely selfish in the way she handled this situation. First leaving without telling anyone, and rushing back at the last minute. People think she is so “brave” and “dedicated” for dancing on Monday. No. The only things she accomplished was endangering her health and getting Alexa eliminated. Oh and getting a sh*tload of attention.
I don’t think the rules would allow for Alexa to return, but then sometimes I think tptb make things up as they go.
Sorry for the second post, but Alek, Emmma & Lindsey and AT yummy!!!!
And since the trios had already been chosen before Tamar withdrew, does that mean that Val won’t be dancing? Or can a couple go back and change?
What up with Carlos getting songs by all these teen idols? Lol. Justin Bieber, Austin Mahone, One Direction… 😛
I feel like a Contemporary from Carlos could be good but I thought the same for the Argentine Tango and we all know how that turned out. For whatever reason I’m imagining his Samba is gonna be very, very cringe worthy.
Boy I can’t wait to see Alek do an Argentine Tango with Lindsay and Emma. Talk about heat and passion! Hope he isn’t too focused on Emma and gives the same intensity when dancing with Lindsay.. Hahaha
I’m kind of torn on Tamar’s withdrawal… I’m glad she’s taking care of herself but I wish she did it on Monday… Because then Alexa could stay. And I’m guessing that they won’t tell Alexa she can come back and dance this week. :/ Plus Mark’s injured so I guess the possibility just seems really unlikely…. Boo.
I’m tickled Alek will get to do the AT, which is the dance he said he wanted to do when asked way back at the start of the season. Of course no matter how well he does with intensity and lifts, the so-called “judges” will be nit-picking the crap out of him for not enough emotion and for poor technique on just about everything. My guess is they’ll also pick at him for not doing enough ganchos, no matter how many he does.
I’m just curious, do the pro have to pick certain other pros or troupe to be in trios? Or are there cliques happening?
I just never see any pro pick Karina to be in a trio and if were them I would jump at the chance to have her
So looking forward to the Alek/Lindsay/Emma trio! I don’t care whether it’s a showmance or a realmance… After last week, I encourage all the feels. I’m really hoping for positive vibes next week. This week has been such a mess and such a downer. And hey, if the mancake makes it to the finals, even better.
There are several factors, Jessica.
If they have a certain concept in mind that a certain pro excels at.
Who is left depending on where they are in the picking order (used to be lowest to highest scoring, not sure if it still is).
And, yes, some just pick friends out of trust and knowing how they work together, etc.
Smart move would be to pick Val. He has danced with Bindi before, would do a great job and bindi might pick up some family votes
What Carlos says “I´m not spending a night without you, I’m coming to New York with you”
What I hear “I’m not letting you go to New York alone with Mark”
Jessica, I remember that Peta picked Karina back for her and Donald Driver’s Jive trio.
Stoli, I don’t think Bindi needs any “fam” votes, and most of those nut-jobs couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Derek’s partner to save their lives.
I’d much rather see Sasha as Bindi’s Trio partner if Mark isn’t up to it. Sasha is a team player, an all-around great guy, and has a proven track record working with Derek.
Val and his minions will throw support to Nick since Sharna is quasi-“fam” and his bro’s girlfriend is dancing in their Trio.
Yeah, I don’t think picking Val would be the way to go. I don’t think Val could surrender his ego long enuf for Derek to be in charge. IMO I am hoping if Mark can’t dance that they are dancing with Sasha. Sasha works well with Derek and I think the three could be great together.
@Tina…. are you sure about that? I was just wondering because I was pissed alexa and mark were eliminated, but what if now… it does happen? (feeling hopeful) Check out Tom’s twitter post.
I agree that Mark and Sasha are the obvious choices for Derek and Bindi – but Derek might surprise us all. Remember that he picked Tony for the paso trio with Bethany. I don’t think anyone expected that – I definitely didn’t.
I think derek and bindi could have hayley for trio. I saw hayley like the dwts official photo on insta of bindi and derek conversing on there trio partner. She liked it as soon as it was posted like less the 5 minutes after it was posted
Val I see maybe is gonna go with Carlos since they get along since the Sinilar personalitys. Unless Whitney dosent want a pro guy to bring out Carlos weaknesses and bring in a female pro instead to play it safe
Ew do not want Hayley in dereks trio. ? lol. Would prefer so many other possibilities
Hayley is Derek’s girlfriend so I won’t be suprised if he chosed her for their trio
I see on dancing abc snapchat Nick practing some ballroom moves does he have ny more ballroom dances yet to do.
I don’t know if a Lindsay, Alek and Emma trio is wise. Alek gets too distracted by Emma and Emma is too flirty. Lindsay would do the choreography,but Emma is a best friend and might want to throw in a few Alek- manhandling-Emma-moves.
On the other hand Alek has danced with both so he’s comfortable with them and the 3 look good together. Maybe Alek should dance blindfolded.
@Mishti He has yet to do a Waltz and a Tango and based on that snapchat I’m gonna guess he might be doing the Tango.
Also looks like Bindi is doing some Salsa-ish moves there. Hmmmm….
Alek doing an AT with Lindsay and Emma . . . I think I can hear the squeeing from a thousand miles away. 🙂
BTW, on the French version of DWTS (Danse avec les stars), there was an interesting trio tango by last season’s winner (Rayane Bensetti) where he “lifts” both of his partners at once. (If you want to watch it, just Google “Rayane tango”.) Alek certainly seems capable of something like that, if they want to go in that direction.
#CCNY thank u so much yes agree it cud be Tango. Bindi it tot more like a samba step to me but i guess we will knw soon thank u again for letting me knw 🙂
Mark said he thought he had a piece of glass in his heel. I am sure he got that out and should likely be ok to dance. I hope he is with Derek and Bindi. I hope the Paso is just with Derek though.
Glad to see Peta return but totally agree with others that Nick will have a difficult time standing out with those two.
Emma with Alek will be fun.
People who saw the DWTS periscope said that Bindi is doing Samba. I forgot about it with all that has been going on.
@maria has it been confirmed shes his gf? I thought it was a fling??? Plus I cant imagine derek parading his gf around on tv he seems really private
I sure hope that for Bindi and Derek’s Trio Dance they don’t do Paso Doble. The girl celebrity is not the one domineering in the dance, it’s the male (s). That’s the same with Kellie Picker when she and Derek had the Paso Doble. When 2 men are in the trio with a lady celeb, it’s not the same when a male celeb in in a trio with 2 woman. He gets to be the dominate one, in a real paso doble. And he always gets the admiration by the judges. IMO
So, I hope Bindi & Derek are doing the Salsa for their Trio. It would be better if she is dancing with two males.
Either way, I believe Bindi will nail her dances just likes she has all season.
Random thought for the day…now that Tamar has withdrawn, maybe we could see a Bindi, Derek and Val trio. Val did work with Bindi during the switch up!
Looks like Karina is with Witney as per Victor s snapchat so right now it looks to be like Alek Emma Lind, Sharna Peta Nick, Witne Carlos Karina. So,only Derek and Bindi Trio partner we are not sure of he will most likely go with a Male Pro Partner he has never used a girl for his trios and he will do wats best for Bindi at this point. I hope his Blog is out today and he mentions who it is Mark or Sasha I cant see ny other male pro other tan these two.
@moravamc – Except the trios were already chosen before Tamar withdrew. Derek & Bindi don’t need Val, they already chose someone else. And just because Val worked with Bindi in the switch, doesn’t necessarily mean she wants to work with him again…
I’d be happy with either Mark or Sasha for Derek and Bindi’s dance, but part of me actually wants Sasha over Mark.
I’m trying to not get my hopes up for Karina as the other pro with Witney and Carlos, but I can’t help it, my hopes ARE up. ?
A Lindsay, Alek, Emma Argentine tango sounds divine! Can’t wait!
It’d be interesting for sure, cause it looks like the remaining couples have chosen a previous pro instead of someone from the troupe. So I’m curious to see if Derek picked Mark or Sasha.
Excited to see Karina back on the dance floor—Figuring (hoping) Witney yields to Karina for choreography.
@Tina
That’s occurred to me too. Sasha was a pro once, in S17. But didn’t someone refer to a “board” from which they got to pick their Trio partner. So I suspect producer manipulation again. Perhaps Sasha wasn’t on the “board.”
I’m so suspicious that I suspect the reason the judges and even Tom appeared up in arms over Derek asking “Who wants Jive?” when picking partners for the dance off was that TPTB wanted something else. Like Derek and Val plus their partners in a direct, head to head dance off. Because, from what we’ve heard, the pros/celebs always discuss who/what to pick ahead of time BTS. Like when Kellie revealed that Andy asked to be on her team so they could call themselves Team Picklerdick!
Plot twist: Derek picked Mark but he had to step out because of his foot so they chose Val to replace him XD (Kidding! I hope that’s not what actually happened.)
I’m kind of nervous about Alek being with Emma again because we’re getting down to the wire here and he could get distracted. But hopefully Lindsay being there will reign him in a bit.
And I’m so excited Karina and Peta are going to be in trio numbers!I wanted Peta to be in Andy’s trio if he was still in at this stage but she’s an awesome match for Nick too!
(And I feel ya on Snapchat Courtney. Lol)
Karina and Emma! Now if I can see Sasha in a trio too I’m great!
Colleen, I’m pretty sure they wanted Alexa and Carlos to dance off against each other and Derek ruined it. That would be my first guess. I don’t think it has as much to do with Derek and Val.
AH! es, that does actually sound more like TPTB. ‘Cause especially this season, Val’s partner would have been even more outvoted than she was vs Alexa.
@PH: Now you’ve got me wondering how much worse it would have been if the team dances from Monday had been Alexa & Carlos, Alek & Nick, and Bindi & Tamar (or, come to think of it, Alek & Tamar and Nick & Bindi—that would have been a pretty easy way to continue Mission Screw With Alek).
Just read the couples will have to learn a third dance now? Because that is fair!
Here is another great Veterans Day interview Alek Skarlatos did On Air with Ryan Seacrest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1kKbsCEmmo&feature=youtu.be
Ashley #96, Where did you read this? If true, is this turning into the survival of the fittest?
@GinnyD Carlos said it in his interview today with Witney. They posted the interview on the main page!
No paso doble from Bindi 🙁 , I was realy hoping to see one from her , the ones from the other couples were very underwhelming ( not a single perfectly scored one for A PASO ) , I hope it will be a judge’s choice on the finale ( long shot though the first dance is usually a redo or a recreate ) , oh well at least they are doing jazz , another favorite style of mine .
I agree Kirami, or maybe in that third dance somehow maybe they can do a Paso, but I was wanting to see one so badly since it had the chance to be one of the best Paso’s. Oh well though since they have two great dances that Bindi will excel at.
You know what I’d like to see instead of a mysterious time filler third dance? Tom sitting each individual couple down in a pre-taped bit and doing a five minute or so in depth interview, maybe followed by some fun rehearsal bloopers of the couples.
As for the mysterious 3rd dance – I’m wondering if it’s a relay.
This week isn’t the finale, Kirami. Odds are Bindi will do a Paso on night 1 as her unlearned style.
So you think it’s not likely that they’ll do the Paso in the finals? After figuring out their dances, I was actually hoping they’re going to do it in the finals. Was there even a season when Derek didn’t do the Paso at all?
Heidi, I hope you’re right and she won’t do a Samba as her unlearned style. I really don’t like this dance (even though Derek is one of the pro’s that actually can choreograph a good Samba) while I absolutely love Derek’s Pasos.
Derek’s idea for their trio sounds very cool, I hope it all works out. I’d be happy with either Mark or Sasha. 🙂
To fill time, why don’t they do an awesome pro number instead of a “mystery” dance. I am really getting tired of the drama….
I know PH that’s why I was hoping it will be a judge choice .
I hope so Heidi, when do they do the re-do dance on the finale? First or second night?
@Tina – Most likely night 1. Night 1 is usually last unlearned dance/judges’ choice/redemption dance and the freestyle; night 2 is usually instant dance.
Unrelated to anything being currently discussed: can someone please explain to me why Peta is currently on Twitter, apologizing for having nipples? lol
I guess TPTB forgot that this was originally a dance show…instead of a “third/filler” number, it would be nice to see a “Macy’s Stars of Dance” or pro number. I do miss seeing dancing instead of drama 🙁
Haha Courtney I think some people were tweeting her outraged that her nipples were showing through her shirt a bit. It’s hilarious that people can’t just move on with their days.
She didn’t realize her shirt was see through and, unfortunately, she still gives two shits what some idiots on twitter think. Kinda like her boyfriends brother.
It shocks me every day how puritanical, judgmental and sanctimonious Americans are. And yes, I am one so I can say that. 🙂
I say the same thing, Heidi 🙂 And I, too, iz American. I blame the damn Pilgrims.
It still shocks me that there is such a taboo in America about breasts, and really, just the female body/sexuality in general. I heard a fact the other day that kinda blew my mind: if you show a man’s face while he’s having an orgasm in a movie, you can get by with a PG-13 rating; but if you pan to a woman’s face while she’s having an orgasm, the film has to have a minimum of an “R” rating. 😯
Yerp. It’s kinda disgusting, really. And heaven forbid we see a penis.
Men in suits are skeered of us wimen folk. Don’t want us to see the goods. We might think “less” of them. 😉
The Peta thing–the “braless” tweets were probably from the few remaining Maks/Meryl shippers, who constantly monitor Peta’s clothes, makeup, demeanor, etc. in order to contrast her with “classy” Meryl. Hard to believe, but it’s true! LOL!
OMG Heidi you and Courtney are hilarious. I too iz American and I find that whole thing funny as well. As for Peta…her boobs should be slapped for showing her nipples…lol. Don’t take me seriously folks…just kidding. I am with the folks who say why not a great pro number instead of a third dance…sheesh!!
Does anyone know if any of the male pros/troupe other than Derek and Mark are cross-trained in Jazz? I know several of the girls are (namely the 4 “Utah Babies” + Hayley and Allison), but I don’t know about the guys. I’m asking because I know in the past when there have been Jazz Trios the pro has typically picked someone who knows what they’re doing in that style so I’m trying to get a sense of the likelihood that Derek would pick someone other than Sasha to replace Mark if needed. I know Derek’s situation is different than Karina’s was in Season 17 because he himself is comfortable with the style, but he might still prefer to have someone with Jazz experience as the 2nd pro.
@ PHeidi & Courtney…
LOL!!!! Youins is histerical!!! I’m an American, also.
Meryl doesn’t NEED a bra. Just sayin’.
This mystery third dance should be interesting. Saying that I’m hoping it’s not a new style though.
Could that 3rd dance be the re-do dances? I think it’s going to be “easier” compared to creating a whole new choreography. If that’s the case they can probably incorporate another theme to next week, they seem to love theme nights!!!
Veronica, that might not be a bad idea, that way going into the finale, everyone gets a chance to do one unlearned dance + freestyle, then the instant/fusion dances on the second night.
I just realized that Bindi is the last female celeb in the competition. Good for her 🙂
#BoobsAreNotDangerous #DitchTheBra #IStandWithPeta
I’m actually taking a psychology of sexuality right now and we actually discussed the whole controversy about women exposing their breasts here vs. other parts of the world and I swear, North Americans (and obviously conservative countries) are SO.. extra about it
you go to Europe or even places in Africa or South America, and it’s literally just a body part, that women have to feed their children or it’s just kind of there (how like we here think of mens breasts) because uh… men have breasts and nipples too! and we see a lot of that every week 😉
anyways! #FreeTheNipple
Mark just posted a funny instagram of teamcrikey doing the dirty dancing lift and him in the water with the caption “TRIO WEEEKK!!! #teamcrikey” so looks like he’s in. Cannot wait to see what they come up with because just like last week, Derek + Mark = genius. And for sure they are going to make Bindi shine.
If I looked like Peta when going braless, I’d be putting on a show in the frozen food section every trip to the grocery store. She looks amazing and shouldn’t apologize for it.
Truth be told, some of the costumes they wear on the show are more revealing than her shirt today, but whatevs. Set ’em free!
the third dance is a dance off.
I case you haven’t seen it (I know Vogue usually handles media stuff), People has the list of songs and styles for the individual dances as well as some info on the 3rd dance.
Well it seems like TPTB’s idea is to mess with Bindi and Alek.
Bindi vs. Nick in a samba dance off
Alek vs. Carlos in a cha cha dance off
Surprise surprise, Bindi and Alek haven’t done their respective styles.
@Ananya Why would the TPTB want to sabotage or mess with Bindi, from what I’ve seen they’ve done the opposite overscore her and over praise her.
of course it’s the opinion of those that don’t want Derek to win another MBT that Bindi has been overscored and overpraised. If you feel that way i’m not going to try to convince you otherwise as it’s your opinion. However history shows TPTB wants a pro that’s going on tour to win, and that’s Sharna, not Derek. Now Bindi is very beloved so they can’t openly screw her over like they did Nastia, so they have to be more covert. Do you think it’s fair to Alek and Bindi to have to learn two completely new dance styles when their opponents don’t have to do the same?
Here’s what I make of the new dance-off stuff (note that this is all my opinion and I’m fully prepared to be wrong):
I can’t say I’m surprised that TPTB are trying to mess with Alek. If there’s no elimination this week they’re going to need to give Carlos all the cushion he can get over Alek if there’s any hope of Carlos cracking the Top 3. There’s going to be A LOT of points being handed out leading into the Finale Monday results so the margins are going to be TINY. I would be shocked if Carlos doesn’t get at least one perfect score on Monday and I’m sure they’ll lowball/nitpick the crap out of Alek.
As for messing with Bindi, I think they’re just trying to make it look like a horse-race at this point with Nick. She’s too good (and Derek has already called out the nitpicking) for them to really dock her much to keep her more inline with Nick. Dance-offs (especially where only one person has previously done the style) are easier for TPTB to play with a bit.
Does anyone have a list of all the DWTS champions and whether or not they went on tour after and who was the producer at the time ?
While it does seem unfair to give Bindi a style she hasn’t done yet for a dance off against Nick (who HAS done a Samba) I’m gonna keep a positive mind and think Bindi will do a very good job and possibly beat Nick 🙂 Hehe.
In Alek’s case.. I’ll try to be positive but it’s not looking good for him.
They couldn’t give everyone dances they have all already done for their dance-offs?! Like give Bindi and Nick a Jive and give Alek and Carlos a Salsa and call it a day.. Ugh.
Anyways, I love Bindi’s Salsa song. I have been waiting for DWTS to use it (saw it as more of a Samba but Salsa works too). They couldn’t have chosen a more perfect song for Bindi. I think she herself knows she’s “never fully dressed without a smile”.. and what a cute smile she has 🙂
I don’t think they are messing with Bindi. With Derek as her partner, she’ll be fine and who else were they going to put her with – Alek? I can only imagine the complaining.
You know when it comes down to it I really don’t think, as much as they all would like to win, that anyone would be upset if they lost to Bindi (maybe Tamar would, but that’s a moot point now). At least that’s how I Imagine it! She’s a little too perky and wide-eyed for me, but if she won I’d be happy for her. I was not happy last year…
I’d be more happy if Nick won, but I don’t think that’s going to happen. Either way it’s all good.
I have a strong suspicion that the ones complaining about Peta going bra-less are fans of Meryl. To them she can do no wrong, and have come to the conclusion that Maks must have rocks for brains to pick Peta as his GF instead of Meryl. They are really ridiculous and sound like a bunch of school girls over on Tumblr. They just won’t accept that Meryl is not Maks type for obvious reasons, and Peta is for obvious reasons. LOL! And I am sure Meryl has gone bra-less before, it’s just that no one has ever noticed. LOL!
Now as far as the dance-off, I am confident in Derek’s talent and Bindi’s talent they they can pull off a pretty decent samba and beat Nick, so no worries from me.
I just want to add to my earlier comment about the Bindi/Nick dance-off that I’m sure Derek will teach Bindi to do a good samba that will likely rival Nick’s, despite the obvious handicap. However, I’ve become cynical enough about this show that I don’t think it will matter how well Bindi does and the judges will just give the win to Nick no matter what. I would love to be proven wrong, but that’s my guess about how this will go down.
BTW, if everything is on the up and up at DWTS, Bindi and Derek should win the MBT. There is only a small bit of fear creeping in, because I have realized that Sharna is the only pro that will be going on the DWTS tour of the remaining four pros we have now. So far there have been two DWTS tours, and for the first one, Witney and Alphonso won the MBT and both were on the DWTS tour. The next season, Val won with Rumer, and both of them were on the DWTS tour. So, I am hoping that TPTB aren’t setting a pattern here, and Sharna and Nick win since Sharna is going to be on tour. Some serious stink eye is gonna be given from me to the producers is this happens.
Yeah, it’s a dick move, but I really don’t think Nick is a very good ballroom dancer. I have total confidence in Bindi and Derek.
The current incarnation of the tour is very recent. Prior to these last few tours, I think the last one was after Season 7 or 8.
Congrats, Andy, we’ve not heard stupid, anti-Derek stuff in several days. I was missing it.
Why don’t you try reading the site for a while before posting, so you don’t ask silly questions.
I agree with Suzy – even though Bindi hasn’t done Samba, I think she’ll still beat Nick in dance-off… so in yo face TPTB! Unless, of course, they do another split screen, then that’s the only way I could see Nick winning.
I can’t believe they’re doing another dance-off. What’s so wrong with doing a relay?
Come on, Jill. I know you have trouble understanding basic fair play and you know it’s not who her partner is but the DANCE STYLE. Nick has done it before, Bindi hasn’t. Just because she has Derek for a partner and will likely be all right changes nothing. Three points are on the line and Nick has an advantage. AGAIN. Guess he can’t win without it.
Lindsay is going on tour too, Darlene. Hence all the Carlos semi-pimpage. And she’s never won. I expect that phrase to get thrown around A LOT by some insecure pros this coming Monday.
I don’t think the dance duel is as unfair as some people want to make it seem. True, Nick has done a samba, but it barely had any. It was more disco than anything. And it’s not like Bindi hasn’t learned the dance before. Just because she didn’t dance it doesn’t mean she doesn’t know it. Everyone had to learn a samba for the other dance off along with jive and cha cha. So chill people
, they just paired 1st vs 2nd and 3rd vs 4th.
So with salsa, samba and jazz, does that make paso the only one left?
What toads. ? well I’m pretty sure bindi will outdance Nick anyways, I’m more worried about alek. I don’t think you can do lifts in chacha either, which alek is way better at than Carlos.
Will the dance off include viewer voting like last time or just judges?
@whitney your comment had me cracking up!!! ? I dunno Jill, I can imagine Carlos and Nick having poopy faces if they loose to bindi. Even bindi sometimes makes bummed out faces when others get a higher score every once in a while. Nick is not a saint and although bindi is wonderful and pure and kind, certainly she has at least a tiny drop off competitiveness in her. I think she takes it out in her work ethic though (as demonstrated by her feet) instead of taking it out on the other contestants. Hated the split screen it’s really hard to focus on both at the same time. I’m actually sick of relays and dance offs. How unoriginal TPTB. Would have preferred longer dances. The dances seem WAY longer on strictly and the Ukraine and Russian versions of DWTS. Or another lie detector segment.
Correct me if I’m wrong but…..
Even if Nick beats Bindi in the Dance off, receives the additional 3 points and gets 30+30 for both his unlearned and trio dances, Nick would still need Bindi to get 25 or less to beat her cumulative total.
Unless something radically wrong happens and Bindi performances absolutely terribly, I think it’s safe to say Nick does not stand a chance in beating Bindi’s cumulative score.
Nick would need Binid’s total of the night to be 50 or less than that. I just don;t see that happening.
I am actually not worried about the dance-off between Bindi and Derek. Nick to me doesn’t look comfortable in latin dances. And Bindi is such a quick learner, she will nail the samba.
I would actually love to see a Waltz-Trio with Nick/Sharna/Peta because I think it could actually work really good and I loved Mark/Sadie/Emma’s Foxtrot-Trio. But since TPTB have proven that they totally lack imagination and are nothing but repetitive and there has never been a Waltz-Trio before, I totally expect Nick/Sharna/Peta to have a Salsa-Trio like Noah/Sharna/Emma’s Salsa-Trio of last season.
I really don’t get why they didnt’t turn the stupid dance-off reloaded into either a Samba or Cha Cha relay :/ Or why they didn’t use the additional time for a pro number to promote the tour (Val, Artem, Keo, Jenna and Brittany are all available)…
Sonic, Derek and Mark aren’t really cross-trained in jazz. They have some experience with it but to say they’re trained in it is a stretch. To be actually trained in jazz you need to have a degree of classical (meaning ballet) technique, which they don’t have. Jazz technique varies from classical technique, but the basis is still the same.
Oh…I plan on staying up all night to power vote for Bindi on FInale night….I’m off that night, thank goodness. Plus working 3rd shift, I’m used to being up all night anyways 😉 I just won’t be getting paid for it.
I think it’s BS that they’re doing ANOTHER dance-off. Do a dance marathon instead and make it the Jive that they’ve all done. What a STUPID idea from TPTB!! Grr……..
I DO hope Bindi wins….give Derek a 6th MBT (which he should’ve already had after he got gipped in All-Stars) and let him go off to Broadway and p*ss on DWTS!
Subliminally, they are screwing with him and his partner by giving them a dance style they’ve never done before.
@floppy – Fair enough. They both seem comfortable with it though, or at least the DWTS version of jazz. I maybe should have asked if any of the other pro/troupe guys have experience with jazz.
@ Floppy well at all access Louis VAN Amstel said that Mark Derek and Julianne are right for the show because they are not just ballroom dancers , and they are cross trained dancers in other styles .
And as SYTYCD fan , I can assure you that ballroom is a nightmare over there for jazz and contemporary ….etc dancers because it is a very technical style (as the judges keep saying) , where ballroom dancers can switch to the other styles almost effortlessly . they even almost cut that style off last season .
and I don’t think jazz and Ballet have the same techniques , I think Ballet is the most technical dance , and unless you are a ballet dancer you can’t just be a jazz or whatnot dancer and pull that style off (again SYTYCD hardly if never done ballet with non ballet dancers ).
Sonic, I’m sorry you probably already knew what I was saying anyway. So I know what you mean, and to answer your question I don’t think there are any other male pros as experienced in jazz as Mark and Derek?
Kirami, I don’t know what you mean? Mark and Derek can not do what contemporary and jazz dancers do, period. If you want to think that ballroom is much harder than ballet, that’s up to you I won’t argue.
Ballet is the basis of contemporary. Without ballet contemporary is nothing. So again I don’t know what you’re saying.
@floppy – I also want to add that there’s a video that recently resurfaced of Mark/Derek/Julianne rehearsing a Fosse-style routine when they were kids (Derek looked 13ish), so even if they aren’t formally trained in jazz, they certainly have experience in it from long before they ever had to do it on DWTS. I think the performing arts school they all went to in London taught them a few different styles of dance (in addition to the ballroom/latin they were learning from Corky and Shirley).
I am confident in Derek’s talent. I am confident in Bindi’s talent. But all of that doesn’t matter. It has already been determined who is gonna win this dance off, just like the last dance off. The judges already know who is going to win and it isn’t going to be Bindi. Have I mentioned lately how much I hate TPTB?
Just for further clarification Kirami, contemporary technique is 95 percent ballet technique, without pointe shoes.
Sonic, for sure! I’m sure they have experience and took class in different styles. I just don’t think they are anywhere near a professional level.
I know people will be mad that I’m posting this but I’m just going to say it: the producers want Nick to win because Sharna is going on tour and they probably want him to go on tour (as per the tweet that Sharna retweeted) so that’s the reason why they put Bindi and Nick for the dance off to do the samba when Nick has already done it and in my opinion he did a good job at the samba. I will still continue to vote for Bindi because I think she deserves to win and she has done a great job throughout the competition but let’s be real here, the producers know who they want to win and they are in control overall. That’s just my opinion. #notsorry
@Kirami – I think the biggest reason that a lot of the ballroom dancers on SYTYCD can hold their own in contemporary/jazz, but not the other way around is that most of the ballroom dancers who go on that show have had some degree of cross-training in contemporary/jazz but the contemporary/jazz dancers have rarely done much ballroom before.
@floppy – I hadn’t seen your #160 comment before I posted my #161 comment, so thank you for answering my question 🙂
@floppy – I was talking about cross-training in jazz, not being a professional jazz dancer. There’s a difference. I don’t think the four “Utah Babies” would call themselves professional jazz dancers, but they’ve certainly trained in it (along with other styles).
@floppy where did I said in my comment that Ballroom is better than Ballet? it’s like apples and oranges , I said Ballet is the most technical dance of them all followed by ballroom , and you said it yourself , Ballet is the source of contemporary not jazz so why would jazz share the techniques with ballet .
and I can tell you that contemporary dancers cant just do what ballroom dancers are doing , and from the heart cry routine with Alison , Derek seemed to me like more than just holding himself .
and I just did a quick research and I was right : the trio received training in many forms of dance, including jazz, ballet,hip hop and tap. and that is said in multiple sites and interviews .
Ruby, not your place to tell everyone to “chill”. Consider this your first and only warning – express your opinion, but you don’t get to tell everyone what to do.
I too believe Bindi and Carlos will win the Dance off. Wish it would’ve been style they both haven’t done. I also too believe the producers this on purpose so Bindi and Alex can have a harder time so they can lose.
Watch Derek through this quick samba out of the park.
Also, I can’t believe I didn’t realize that Lindsey is also going on tour and she also a pro that hasn’t won the mirrorball with her partners (shame on me). So now it’s more interesting to me that Sharna said in the “Cool Cat” package that : ‘She just realized that she’s the ONLY PRO left that hasn’t won the Mirrorball. Did she not realize that Lindsey is a PRO and still in the competition and hasn’t won either, or did she say that to diss Lindsey, or did the producers force her to say that. Very disappointed in Sharna this season.
Kirami, I said ‘much harder’ not ‘better’ and you did actually say it was harder. Contemporary and jazz are built on ballet technique. Contemporary and jazz dancers train in ballet BEFORE they train in contemporary and jazz. You can think ballet is most technical, and ballroom second, again that’s totally up to you.
You can also think Derek holds himself well in contemporary, if you want. That’s also up to you. Derek and Mark took classes in other styles, but they can’t even do a full split so? Any kind of turn with correct technique? Point their feet well? Don’t have a turnout to speak of?
@ floppy I give up , my mom have warned me about arguing with strangers on the internet , but I dont listen , god dammit .
so there you go : you’re right and I’m wrong and I’m sorry that I bothered you with my logic :).
Floppy, take a walk. You’re getting combative and condescending – and I feel like we’ve warned you about this before. Come back when you don’t feel compelled to harp on arcane technique points that nobody other than you really cares about.
Well by giving Bindi and Alek a dance off style they have yet to do it means they must take more rehearsal time away from their other two dances and learn a third style. Big Advantage to Carlos and Nick, who can just brush up on their dance off styles and concentrate on their main dances.
America will prob not get a vote this time, so the judges(or should I say producers) can completely control the outcome.
Maybe Bindi and Alek should just do the worm, it worked for Andy and Carlos last time.
@MP she said she was “ONE OF the only pros left who hasn’t one”. She didn’t diss Lindsay.
Sorry, it’s been a long day. **”One of the pros left who hasn’t won”
@PJ – Or take off their shirts – whoops, I forgot…boobs are eeeeevil. Poor Bindi 😉
This dance-off kinda reminds me of the finals of season 19 – for the redo dance, Alfonso & Bethany had to redo their jive, while Sadie & Janel had to redo their sambas…and because Alfonso & Bethany had done their jives in week 1, when all of the routines were shortened, they were told they needed to add an additional 30 seconds of choreography to their original routine. Janel & Sadie didn’t have to. Fair? Not really.
Please forgive if I’m derailing the post. In my experience, ballet and contemporary share many things but their are some big differences.
Ballet dancers are taught from the very beginning to pull up. From the feet, though the legs, torso and chest. This is for two reasons. The first is that it enables the dancer to achieve that lighter than air appearance. But the main reason is that when a female dancer goes on pointe or a male dancer on demi-pointe, the toes and feet aren’t taking all the weight of the body. Because of the training, the weight is distributed through the legs up through the torso.
Ballet teachers are forever telling their students “Pull up!” for this reason.
Contemporary at least in the beginning, was much more grounded to the floor, with lots of body contractions and weighty movement. It’s sort of morphed a bit into a catch-all dance form with more lyrical, ballet type movements, but I disagree that it’s 95% ballet technique. That’s like saying a $20,000 couture dress is 95% the same as a $200 dress from Kohl’s. They’re two different disciplines. And yes, I suppose I am a ballet snob. I own it!
Ballroom is another technical beast entirely. Some day I’d love Courtney to do a post on the pros ballroom technique. Differences and who’s better and whatnot.
Your right Sarah missed that. :/
Calling a moratorium on the ballet vs. contemporary vs. ballroom discussion. You’ve all made great points, but please move on.
It appears that the dance-off was thrown in to the mix after all the voting was closed (and Tamar withdrew). So tptb most likely already knew the results for this week. The fact that Bindi and Alek are at distinct disadvantages makes me think they must still be running away with votes and it’s the only way to “level the playing field” or get the “desired” finale they are looking for.
With that said, I think Bindi will still beat Nick in the dance off and Carlos will likely beat Alek. How the judges choose to score the dance-off concerns me a bit, however I think it backfired last time. But, Alek has two dances this week that are likely to bode well for him. He’s been able to overcome point margins in the past. So, I don’t know that the dance-off will be quite the game changer that the producers are perhaps intending. But then again, this season has been a total crap shoot, so who knows.
In the end, I believe that this competition is Bindi’s. If she’s not holding the MBT at the end, then the producers should be ashamed.
If they’re going to have a stupid 3 point dance off, they should’ve put in a hat all the styles that EVERY couple has done and had them draw a style and the couple they compete against.
“Mark and Derek can not do what contemporary and jazz dancers do” – is the most utter BS I have heard on this site in a long time. Especially since Derek was handed TWO Emmy Awards for contemporary dances – Emmy awards that are largely decided by contemporary dancers.
Sorry, floppy, but I’m quite sure that Derek, at least, has had some ballet training. I recently saw photos along with a note from his teacher. He didn’t last long, from what I understand, because he didn’t care for it. They also had contemporary and Jazz training. They had to learn all forms of dance, actually. As Kirami pointed out, eve LVA said so.
I also don’t think you’re in a position to say what they do and don’t have. AT all. Not to mention that you’re picking nits in a really annoying and condescending way (agreeing with Courtney, there) – but hey, if you want to believe that Derek and Mark are just naturally brilliant at both Jazz and Contemporary, fine by me.
Whitney, I SO agree with you!! Something tells me that even though Nick will be F2 with Bindi, that he isn’t getting the votes like they expected. But hey, if the judges score the dance off the same way they did the first time, then Bindi will continue to run away with the votes even more this time because people will be pissed. I think they will put that into consideration this time.
Hasn’t Tom mentioned the past couple of weeks that they’ll make an announcement regarding the winter DWTS tour soon? Makes me wonder if Nick is holding out on appearing with the tour on contingency of his placement in the finals/winning. Devil’s advocate, I know, with his wife expecting and him possibly not able to tour, but just throwing it out there.
Wouldn’t it be something if Derek was the hold out for the tour? Maybe he’ll join after his big December trip. Reaching, I know…
This could just be my bias, but I don’t think people should count Alek out of the tour. Last winter’s tour invited all three of the finalists, and Alfonso and Janel both agreed to do shows. Janel later pulled out of her shows, but she was still invited. IF Alek makes the finals, why not him? His pro will be there, as will his switch-up partner, and let’s face it, people want to see that rumba again.
@Whitney – It’s certainly possible. If he plans to return to UCC in Roseburg for spring semester, he could always skip the last few dates on the tour. Or he could do just a handful of shows – he does seem to be pretty popular.
If It is “ballroom night” shouldn’t the dance off be ballroom dances? Wouldn’t that make sense? Oh wait…chances are Bindi and Alek would win their respective dance offs in the ballroom category. Can’t do that!
Never mind…maybe it isn’t ballroom night…I thought I saw that somewhere…or maybe it was and now it is not. Hard to keep up.
I’ve been thinking more about who guests for the tour might be since as it turns out I might actually be going to see it and as I was waking up this morning Alek being on the tour actually crossed my mind too! I think that would be awesome and a lot of fans seems to adore him so that’d be fun. Might sell some more tickets. And the shippers would go nuts. XD
I think the decision to go on the tour will be made by TPTB, the Army and then Alek last.
I don’t think they would ask him though.
They may not have a lot of options though. Bindi is supposed to go back to Australia after Thanksgiving, I think Nick is doing stuff with BSB and then there’s his pregnant wife, and Carlos has Grease Live to deal with. So unless they would rather have someone who was eliminated earlier or from a previous season like the last tour Alek might be one of their only choices.
Worth mentioning on the topic of Nick doing/not doing the tour that Alfonso did the whole winter tour while his wife was pregnant last year.
@Shart Alek is in the National Guard, so it’d be much easier to get signed off to be on the tour. He’s been on the show for the last 10 weeks, right? If he were active duty in the Army, he never would’ve been on the show to begin with.
If they don’t have an elimination this week and everyone’s points carry over to the finale, would that give Nick the boost he needs to win? I’m confused about the cumlitive points. Like in the all star season I thought that Shawn and Derek lost bc they were docked points on their QS for breaking hold (or whatever).
Worth mentioning, M8, is that they are two different men and may make different choices with regards to their wives pregnancies. This is the first child for Nick, whereas it was Alfonso’s second.
If there is not elimination next week, I hope they count the points/votes from this week to determine who will finish in fourth place. If they don’t count the points for this week, it would be unfair to Bindi and Derek since they got a perfect score on both dances this week.
Anyway, I think it will narrow down to Bindi and Nick for 1st and 2nd place with Bindi being the winner and Nick finishing as the runner up.
Bindi has been more consistent and I think she has a slightly larger fanbase.
As for Carlos and Alek, I think they will battle it out for third and fourth place. Alek has the viewers’ support while Carlos has the judges on his side.
Does cumulative score determine the winner?
I meant to add if Nick wins the dance off, which will probably be scored like the last dance off.
No, Mandi, cumulative points are just that – cumulative. He already has them, regardless of whether they carry over week 10 or not. Shawn and Derek’s quickstep was in the finale, not the semi-final and it may have cost them, but that’s a separate issue from cumulative points. The cumulative points don’t affect who wins or loses, just occasionally who get to pick first in trios and such (only when TPTB feel like it). Sometimes they use it to determine who dances first/last….I swear though, their use of the cumulative points changes depending on who’s in the lead.
What affects the “win” depends on how they do this coming Monday night. If they have an elimination on Monday (using votes and scores from LAST monday) and only take 3 to the finale, then I’m not sure, but I think the winner will be determined by the combined votes and scores from Monday the 23rd and tuesday the 24th (provided they have a scored dance on tuesday like usual) AND from this coming Monday night. If they don’t eliminate anyone on Monday and decide to carry the scores and votes from LAST Monday to the finale, then what will LIKELY happen is that the scores and votes from the 9th and 16th will be used to eliminate someone on finale Monday, the 23rd. The winner will then be determined by the scores and votes from Monday the 23rd and the scores from the 24 – provided they do a scored dance like normal on the tuesday finale show.
And, putting it all in writing like that makes me think that they’re not going to eliminate anyone on Monday night. It would be risky, I THINK, to use that many scores and votes to determine a winner because the margins will be so tiny. I suppose they could eliminated someone on Monday and still eliminate someone on the 23rd, leaving us with a final two on Tuesday…but I kinda doubt that.
Thank you! In my mind I’m just trying to figure out how they will screw Bindi out of the win.
I think they will want 3 couples going into Tuesday (“Finale”). Not doing an elimination on Monday (“Finals”) would be too deflating to viewers’ anticipation, which they will want to keep at fever pitch. They can keep the suspense this coming Monday by not saying anything in particular about it and waiting to the last minute and then calling everyone safe. I think that’s the way to wring the most “drama” out of the situation.
I’m really looking forward to Bindi and Derek’s salsa…and samba. Even though I do miss the latin(y) kind of songs/dances…like the Volare samba from Strictly last week and the Gotan Project argentine tango… AKA please bring back latin night.
After seeing the dance off pairings, it does irk me a bit. As horrible as it is that Tamar is ill and out, I feel like TPTB are exploiting the situation (no shocker) and can manipulate things even MORE now to get Nick and Sharna to win. Sharna is a great choreographer, but I wish they would just let things happen naturally.
One of the reasons why I want Bindi and Derek to win is because this show would always introduce me to new (or even obscure) songs and make me fall in love with them because of the choreography. Derek and Mark would always do this…like with Bindi’s argentine tango that I couldn’t stop watching or listening to the song.
This is how I think they are making the decision about eliminating someone this coming Monday. If Carlos has lowest total votes and scores they won’t eliminate. If Alek has lowest total they will. Can’t wait to see PH numbers for the week! My guess is that Carlos has lowest total so there won’t be an elimination.
I’m with Heidi. I think the scores & votes from the past two weeks will be used to determine the couple in fourth place which will be on 11/23. That leaves 3 couples going into 11/24 and their Freestyle score, individual dance + votes to be combined with the final instant dance to determine the 3rd place couple in the middle of the show.
PLEASE NO, not another stupid dance off. And could the TPTB be screwing Alek over anymore with this? We know Latin dances are not his forte…so OF course they have him doing a Latin dance in the dance-off with Mr. Latin Lover “Marc Anthony is my idol” Calliente Carlos. Give. Me. A. Break. At lease give someone a break, because they’re certainly not giving Alek one. At least his other two dances on Monday are to his strength.
I’m not as worried about Bindi in her dance-off against Nick. I think she’ll be able to hold her own.
This just makes me propelled to give all of my votes to Alek next week. I came for Nick, and am still here for Nick, but have come to adore Alek. And Bindi. And really dislike Carlos.
In the LA ABC Veteran’s Day interview with Lindsay and Alek, she intimated Alek may be asked to join the tour and he seemed to think that was something he would like to do, so there is that.
@Sharnai: Thanks for the info.
I was going to say it would probably come down to three things: (1) How much TPTB pay people to go on tour, (2) how much he’s enjoyed his experience to date; and (3) how comfortable he’s become with being a “performer” (which he really wasn’t before this).
After all, before he agreed to do DWTS, he said that his career goal was going into law enforcement.
If they ask Alek to join the tour I can’t see it being anymore than just a few cameo appearances dancing. With respect to him, he’s just a normal bloke, he doesn’t have any presenting experience so surely they wouldn’t entrust him to host the whole show that people have paid good money to attend, like Alfonso and Melissa did. That’s why I still think Nick is who they want. It’s a long shot, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see perhaps one person host/perform in the first half of the tour (maybe Nick) and then someone else do the second half of the tour (Rumer perhaps just a wild guess). The tour goes on for two months so it’s a big commitment for one person to do the whole thing.
I would say that Nick may have been who they thought they wanted, but the Nick who showed up for the competition seems to not so much be that guy. I don’t know him from the BSB so maybe I am missing an afterimage from back in the day. But he always seems slightly withdrawn, uncomfortable, everything about him seems a bit hazy. Doesn’t seem a natural fit for a host. I think TPTB probably began the season ready to take Bindi out to get Nick the win. Then Bindi turned out to be a fabulous dancer and a compelling person. Nick turned out to not be the performer many thought he would. TPTB must have known that putting Derek and Mark together on the “Chicago” challenge would produce THE show stopper. If their priority was a win for Nick, they never would have allowed that.
If Alek is serious about going into law enforcement, he could be thinking that his earnings both in this season of DWTS and going on DWTS Tour would help him with his expenses with going into law enforcement schooling.
I have a soft spot for Alek because he’s one of America’s best. I have an older brother who was America’s best, who was a Corporal in the United States Marine Corps who was killed in Vietnam in 1966. Knowing from the heart what sacrifice every woman/man makes when they join our military, I have great admiration for them.
Bindi has captured my heart also, and I am just simply addicted to her infectious personality and her amazing natural talents.
These two have been my favorite, but I feel that Bindi has definitely won over the hearts of many, many, and should be the winner.
Aren’t you guys forgetting that their main celeb last season was Melissa Rycroft?? And that Rumer was there for what? Five shows or something like that?
I don’t understand all the complains. Since the last dance off,they are supposed to know these dances (jive, samba and cha cha). If there is another dance off round, these dances will be better than the brand new dance which is tiresome for all of them to learn. Bindi and Carlos danced jive last time so they won’t be paired together and will dance cha cha/samba. Carlos dances samba for his trio next Monday. That means he will have cha cha for dance off. And Bindi will take samba. Since Alek already had samba last dance off, he’s gonna have a competition with Carlos on samba. That leaves Nick with Bindi for the dance off.
I think the producers just go with that logic to decide who dances with whom and dance style. It’s not fair or unfair. It is logical.
I believe Rumer was there for about half the shows but a big reason why she wasn’t there for so many was because she got injured.
I’m a very logical person, Catherine, and I didn’t understand yours at all.
Nick did a full Samba for a dance one week. Bindi MIGHT have learned a bit of it one day last week for the dance off. Might. I suspect very little.
I’m not sure I agree that Nick did a “full” Samba, PH, as his “Samba” was the Saturday Night Fever number that Sharna managed to work about 10 seconds of Samba into. YMMV, of course.
@CM agreed, they were doing the same samba steps over and over and there were no samba rolls
I think TPTB will manipulate this situation and Nick will win the dance off. Bindi is now too far in the lead with accumulative points. I do hope that it shows how the public is voting. While many votes went “uncounted’ last time because we couldn’t seem to get to the page to vote it would be interesting if we can trust TpTB don’t mess with it. I think we have to keep the pressure on the judges to judge fairly because they seem to respond to twitter pressure.
Sorry, Nick’s dances don’t actually stick in my head. 🙂 The problem with the stupid assed theme nights – they aren’t actually learning ballroom in some cases.
I still contend that Nick has spent far more time on Samba than Bindi did. But I bet if Derek can stick a samba roll in there, Bindi can win it. Oh, wait…Len’s not here.
Do we know if the danceoff is going to be handled the same way as earlier this seaaon – both couples dancing at the same time and the audience voting as the fourth judge? I hope they let the couples dance separately this time. First, we’ll be able to see their entire dance, rather than parts of it due to bad camera blocking. Second, it shortens the length of the dance for each couple. Otherwise, they will have to learn three complete dances in one week — not cool. Of course, having a shorter dance would benefit Nick because he probably wouldn’t have to learn any extra samba steps to fill time. But who am I kidding — it doesn’t matter what steps each couple does because the winners are already pre-determined.
Astounding and totally transparent how much TPTB is pimping the Nick & Sharna + Peta trio. Shameful of them.
@fictiongirl how are they pimping Nick’s trio? They’ve posted one photo on their IG and they posted Aleks trio photo long before they posted Nicks.
Agree with so many comments here. 3 dances? Are they trying to see who is the stronger or the better dancer. As an Alek fan I don’t think 3 dances is going to help him. Why not have a performer like they use to do on Tuesdays. Macy Dancers is a good idea.
I also think Alek danced better early on. He danced free and loose and I don’t know what changed. Criticism, fatigue, pressure?
I’m tired of the dance offs, challenges, competitions, etc. It’s turning DWTS into a game show. Puts more pressure on all the dancers too.
The tour group are busy practicing now (as per snapchat videos) so hopefully we’ll get to see a good opening number tomorrow since we’ve been lacking those this season
Sharna and Nick have a salsa trio
Sorry forgot to add source – according to Sharna latest IG
Is Alek the only one charged with learning 3 totally new dances this week? hmmmm something smells fishy!
@Kim no, alek is only learning 2 new dances like everyone else because technically everyone should know how to samba/cha cha because of the prior dance off
@Sara Actually, Alek did samba for the first dance-off, but will do cha-cha for this one. So yes, he is learning three new dances.
@Bia for the previous dance off ALL couples had to learn cha cha, samba and jive because they did not know which one they were going to get – so he is only learning 2 new dances as he would have had to learn the cha cha for that dance off despite not having to perform it.
@Bia, even though Alek did samba for the first dance-off, he would have still (kinda) learned cha-cha in case he had to do it. Ditto for Bindi with the samba. I still don’t think its right that they have people who have done a particular style as a regular dance going against people who haven’t, but that’s a separate issue.
Sorry, that completely slipped my mind.
On a slight change of subject, has anyone leaked the songs for the other three trio dances?
I agree Alek was mostly doing better earlier but I think that’s because of the styles. He had mostly ballroom plus a jazz (aka freestyle) during the first few weeks and is only just now starting to be given the hip-shaking Latin styles. I think if he’d gotten those earlier in the competition he may have been out by now.
Concerning the latest update: Hmmmm, Carlos already had Jazz so Charleston seems more likely I guess. Maybe the producers couldn’t clear the Austin Mahone song, so they gave him a new dance which fits the new song better?
Well, in a DWTS Snapchat from some days ago (I think it was like.. Thursday or Wednesday? Before the Trios were revealed) Carlos, Witney and “the mystery trio partner” were doing some Charleston swivels which I found odd at the moment since I had thought he was doing the Samba.
Wonder how he’s gonna do with this one. I think probably better than he would with a Samba but I guess we’ll see.
I agree, CC, for some reason I don’t see Charleston fitting will for Carlos. Alexa and Bindi set the bar high with theirs last week, and I can’t help but think the women will be dancing circles around him
A charleston trio is going to be a total letdown after last week with Bindi and Alexa. Probably not a great decision but whatever.
Seems like Carlos has it easy with all 3 dances
@MP didn’t actually think about it but yes he does! Are TPTB really trying to push him through? seems so but why? what’s the goal with the married thing no longer a thing?
I see there is another Kim on the board so I will switch over to CA Kim. Carlos is pretty decent in dances so if he gets a Charleston he should easily pull it off. It doesn’t seem like that challenging of a dance. Witney’s problem will be something showstopping. Here’s her chance to show us why it’s “her time.” Step up to the plate, girlie and let’s see what you’ve got.
I see that Witney was inspired by Derek & Amy’s freestyle and are using the rope swing (per dwts instagram account)
Derek announced on his Insta and Twitter that they are dancing first tonight with a beautiful pic of the two of them. His post reads heartfelt and shows he is really really into it and wants to see them go all that way! Team Crikey, FTW!
Heidi, I think they are going to set the bar. I think at this stage, they will give out 10s if it’s a 10 worthy routine. And also, they are the only couple who have not gone first all season, so it could just be that as well.
PH, I was wondering too – why they are performing first. I guess if they are going by some cumulative scoring logic, Alek should get the last spot and Nick and Carlos should be second and third respectively. Also, is the dancing order the same for individual dances and the trio?
Yes, Aditi. That means they are the first trio to perform as well. I honestly just think that because they are the only couple yet to go first they have to go first tonight.
Yeah, Aditi, the order usually holds. I think it’s fine if they are doing it in order of highest cumulative score goes first and on down the line. But I suspect they’ll put Alek second and totally hose him because he went after Bindi.
Depending on how Carlos’ dance change came about, I would say that they’ve gone out of their way to benefit him this season. I just can’t figure out WHY, unless they just want the three best dancers standing at the end.
Then Nick is probably going second because he and Bindi are together for the dance off and they need to change/prep for that too
Good to see Bindi is going first. Means that she shouldn’t go first on finale night where you are voting to win.
Heidi, do you think there’s a chance that Alek could overtake Carlos and take 3rd? I have to wonder with the events this weekend in Paris and such, that might encourage more people to vote for him and beat Carlos.
I’m guessing they just put Bindi first since she’s the only one who hasn’t gone first yet so they might as well. I’m just happy that they’re putting her first tonight and not during the Finale – Derek seemed worried when he and Bethany went first during their Finale.
I’m still sure they’ll have a killer first performance and their Salsa is gonna be nothing but fun so I’m not too worried. Just hoping the judges don’t have their little producers-fed agendas at the ready.
Derek’s not an idiot. He knows going first is the coffin slot so to speak. I suspect that post earlier was his way of mobilising he and Bindi’s fans so to speak, because they need every single vote at this stage.
I think that Alek could have overtaken Carlos BEFORE Paris.
But, honestly, I don’t connect Alek with everything Paris anymore. He’s standing on his own as a contestant with his own fanbase. I don’t know that it will increase, unless he picks up those who only tune in for the last two weeks.
Going first when they have to dance 3 times doesn’t seem like a bad thing IMO. Maybe she will have a little more time before the last dance by going first. Can’t wait to see the dances for tonight.
I agree, M8, and CC. I’d rather them go first this week than next when next week is very crucial, because you’re deciding on the winner. Plus, no elim.
Well on the one hand, considering Bindi hasn’t went first this season at all, it seems fair that she does. BUT considering I do not trust TPTB at all and know they have their own agenda going on, I suspect it is to score them lower. You know the “good routine but you are first, we have to see what’s coming up, etc”. The judges will absolutely be following the producers agenda. They so far haven’t been overtly mean to Bindi a la Nastia BUT appear to be doing whatever they can to see that she doesn’t get the mirrorball. Bindi and Derek winning the mirrorball doesn’t benefit TPTB at all. They are going to do what they can to prevent it. Just my opinion, that I would LOVE to be wrong about.
@Tina, that does make sense. They haven’t gone out first this season. And honestly I also believe the order doesn’t matter as much this late in the season. I hope it works for the best.
@PH, the Alek hosing possibility totally makes sense and if he is placed right after Bindi then we know that cumulative scores wasn’t the logic used.
I was also wondering about that use of the rope in Carlos/Whitney contemporary, the same week when Derek mentioned the rope idea in his blog. I don’t know how it makes any sense for two pros to use the same prop, in the same episode. I have been even more skeptical of everything Whitney does after her should we mess with them comment. Forget about Derek for a sec, who in their right mind would say something so mean for Bindi? I mean that’s a great way to appear super nasty! Anyway, skipping the tangent. Also the trio pics for Derek, Bindi and Mark only show a metallic cube/box/frame. Anyone has more clue on what’s going on? Also, what’s the music this big secret this week? Sorry too many strains of thought, all at the same time!
That is true, Cheryl, however I think that will definitely backfire on them this time. Bindi not only has Derek fans behind her, but this time, the general public, and they WILL show their frustration and anger by voting, so it’s just better that they don’t try any of that.
@Aditi, no, the only songs we know this week are the individual dances. Everything else seems to be secretive. And about Witney, I will giggle if she and Carlos come in 4th, because what goes around comes around.
@Tina, amen to them coming 4th! Even though I am not a die hard Alek fine – I do find him tons more likeable and real than Carlos. And I definitely prefer Lindsay over Whitney. So yes I am all for a Bindi, Nick and Alek finale 🙂 Now that Bindi, Nick and Alexa ain’t possible 🙁
Cheryl — I still say that if preventing Bindi from getting the MBT was a priority for TPTB, they never would have allowed Derek and Mark to work together on the show-stopper challenge.
I’m happy that Bindi is performing first that means she’s going last in the finals which is a good thing because whoever is last usually wins Rumer Alfonso Amber Donald JR Hines Jennifer Nicole Donny Kristi Helio Apolo Emmitt. I’m surprised that Tamar and Nick got the pimp slot more than Bindi as though it seems she’s the fan favorite by both judges and public. Tamar got it week 2 week 5 week 7 and week 8 with Nick and Nick got it week 1 week 4 and week 8. Bindi only got it week 2 and 4
@Suzy, I agree with that as well.
They don’t simply reverse the order from semi final to final, Andy. They didn’t last year, and I don’t think it’s a sure thing.
And they didn’t “allow” them to work together on the showstopper – they are the ones who created the teams.
This is yet another example of the producers competing agendas – they also have to try for Emmy nominations. Derek winning two Emmy’s is just as big a deal for the show as it is for Derek.
Derek also likely remembers that he went LAST last season with Nasti, M8. Going first has never been the coffin slot – not even early in the season. The coffin spots are 2nd, 3rd and 4th – but that pretty much ends by the time you’re down to 6 people.
If Bindi is getting a ton of votes, it makes no sense to “mess with her”. If it’s CLOSE, then they might – but that could backfire big time.
They actually did reverse the order last year Rumer was first in the semifinals and then went last in the finals
George Pennacchio says that the order is Bindi, Alek, Carlos, Nick. I suspect PH #247 might be right about TPTB plans for Alek tonight.
Hello guys!!!
Just so you know that here’s the order of who’s performing tonight:
Bindi & Derek, Alek & Lindsay, Carlos & Witney, & Nick & Sharna
According to George, NICK is dancing LAST AGAIN. That’s two weeks in a row! TPTB are up to something.
Also, per George, Trio dances are last. After their individual dances, they do the dance off.
Only Rumer was reversed. Everyone else was NOT in reverse order, which is what I was referring to. Rumer wasn’t dancing in a vacuum.
If they are really up to something, they will put Nick in jeopardy even if they have no plans to eliminate someone.
So Bindi and Derek will have lots of time to practice samba if they want to.
No more time than they would otherwise, Suzy.
I think the only time the order has foretold anything is the finals.
Only twice has a celeb won going 2nd in the finals, most of the time the winning celeb dances last.
Brooke danced first on night one of the finals, but last on night two.
Shawn danced first both nights.
Donny danced last both nights.
Nicole danced first on night two of the finals, but last on night one.
Jennifer danced last both nights.
Hines danced last both nights.
JR danced last both nights except for the last dance where he was first.
Donald danced last both nights.
Melissa danced 2nd both nights.
Kellie danced third of four on night one (and there were three dances), and 2nd of three on night two.
Amber danced last not only on both nights of the finale, but in the semi-final as well.
Meryl danced 2nd on night one and last on night two of the finals.
Alfonso danced last both nights.
Rumer danced last both night.
This little exercise tells me that it’s last a lot…but not consistently enough to hang your hat on it.
Thanks so much compiling this on the fly, PH! So much effort from all the moderators 🙂 You are right – its interesting to see patterns – and there is perhaps a little more to glean from places that people who didn’t won were placed in the two night finale. I won’t be surprised if there is a pattern that emerges consistently in the latter set. Again, thanks for refreshing tona of memories. Just hoping and praying that TPTB’s best made plans are over ruled by pure talent, hardwork and magic 🙂 #TeamCrikey
Placing Bindi first tonight and having the last time she was in the pimp spot was Week 4 bodes well for her dancing last next week.
I hope she does, whether or not Derek have won before, I vote for the celeb and Bindi has impressed me the most with her determination, smile, and lastly how good she is for not being a ringer.