***2016 Emmy Nominations For Dancing With The Stars***
Congratulations to Dancing With The Stars! Our favorite show has just been nominated for for OUTSTANDING REALITY PROGRAM!! Other nominations for “Outstanding Reality Program” include American Ninja Warrior, Project Runway, The Amazing Race, The Voice, and Top Chef.
Also, Derek Hough has been nominated for “Outstanding Choreography” for “Footprints In The Sand/Grace Kelly/Cry Little Sister”!! Other nominations in the “Outstanding Choreography” category are America’s Best Dance Crew (Runaway Baby/Take U There/Summer Thing Quest Crew), Crazy Ex-Girlfriend (I’m So Good at Yoga/A Boy Band Made Up of Four Joshes/Settle For Me Kathryn Burns,), So You Think You Can Dance (Beautiful Friends/November/Gimme All Your Love Travis Wall), So You Think You Can Dance (Dibidy Dop” Anthony Morigerato). More on Derek at Pure Derek Hough including videos.
Stay tuned for updates as we go through the press release….
ETA: Also….
Outstanding Technical Direction, Camerawork, Video Control For A Series – 2016
Dancing With The Stars “The Finals (Part 2)”
Jimmy Kimmel Live “In Brooklyn” ABC
Last Week Tonight With John Oliver “Episode 303” HBO
Saturday Night Live “Host: Ariana Grande” NBC
The Big Bang Theory “The Celebration Experimentation” CBS
Outstanding Costumes For A Variety, Nonfiction Or Reality Program – 2016
Dancing With The Stars “Disney Night / Costumes: dancers only”
Grease: Live “Costumes: all”
RuPaul’s Drag Race
“Keeping It 100! / Costumes: RuPaul only”
The Wiz Live! “Costumes: all”
Outstanding Hairstyling For A Multi-Camera Series Or Special – 2016
Dancing With The Stars “The Finals (Part 1)” ABC
Grease: Live FOX
“Y’all Ready For This” Comedy Central
Saturday Night Live “Host: Fred Armisen” NBC
The Wiz Live! NBC
Outstanding Host For A Reality Or Reality-Competition Program – 2016
Ryan Seacrest American Idol
Tom Bergeron Dancing With The Stars
Jane Lynch Hollywood Game Night
Steve Harvey Little Big Shots starring Steve Harvey
Heidi Klum & Tim Gunn Project Runway
RuPaul Rupaul’s Drag Race
Outstanding Lighting Design | Lighting Direction For A Variety Series – 2016
American Idol “Finale” FOX
Dancing With The Stars “The Finals (Part 2)” ABC
Saturday Night Live “Hosts: Tina Fey & Amy Poehler” NBC
So You Think You Can Dance “Season 12 Finale” FOX
The Voice “Episode 917A ”
Outstanding Makeup For A Multi-Camera Series Or Special (Non-Prosthetic) – 2016
Dancing With The Stars “Halloween Night” ABC
Grease: Live FOX
“Y’all Ready For This?” Comedy Central
Saturday Night Live “Host: Ryan Gosling” NBC
The Wiz Live! NBC
“Grease Live” was also nominated for:
“Outstanding Casting For A Limited Series, Movie Or Special”
“Outstanding Sound Mixing For A Variety Series Or Special – 2016”
“Outstanding Technical Direction, Camerawork, Video Control For A Limited Series, Movie Or Special – 2016”
“Outstanding Lighting Design | Lighting Direction For A Variety Special – 2016”
“Outstanding Production Design For A Variety, Nonfiction, Event Or Award Special”
“OUTSTANDING SPECIAL CLASS PROGRAM – 2016”
Outstanding Directing For A Variety Special”
EIGHT total nominations for Dancing With The Stars! TEN total Emmy nominations for Grease Live! (If we missed any, let us know)
The Winners will be announced on September 18, 2016 at 7:00PM ET / 4:00PM PT on ABC. To view more 2016 Emmy Nominations, see Emmys.com.
Big congrats to both DWTS and Derek, so deserved!
I was hoping for more choreography noninations for DWTS, but oh well. Tom got nominated for best host again! Think he can win it twice? I’m also hoping that DWTS can win reality competition over The Voice.
I’m just thankful DWTS eked out (1) nomination, considering there were only (5) total nominations in the choreography category – two from SYTYCD, (1) from Crazy Ex-Girlfriend (that one came outta left field), and (1) from America’s Best Dance Crew (also somewhat outta left field). Travis was no surprise; the other nom from SYTYCD was from a choreographer I had never heard of. While SYTYCD has dominated the nominations in the past, the fact that they only managed (2) this year is telling.
Gonna go ahead and post the rest of the nominees here, since there will probably be questions:
America’s Best Dance Crew
“Routines: Runaway Baby/Take U There/Summer Thing”
MTV
Quest Crew, Choreographers
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
“Routines: I’m So Good at Yoga/A Boy Band Made Up of Four Joshes/Settle For Me”
CW
Kathryn Burns, Choreographer
So You Think You Can Dance
“Routines: Beautiful Friends/November/Gimme All Your Love”
FOX
Travis Wall, Choreographer
So You Think You Can Dance
“Routine: Dibidy Dop”
FOX
Anthony Morigerato, Choreographer
I’m very happy about the best Reality Show nom and Tom’s but I would have preferred to see some other DWTS pieces nominated over the ones that were, from both Derek and other choreographers. Well, actually I’m happy about the Grace Kelly number making the shortlist. 🙂
Okay, I know this is snarky and the mods may very well delete it but I’m going to say it anyway.
Remember all the talk from certain pros about Derek being gone and giving the other pros a chance to shine? Well, what it their excuse now?
Hopefully one of them can pull a rabbit out of their hats next season or DWTS won’t have any nomination.
+1 Molly!!!
If anyone’s wondering but doesn’t want to go find and watch the dance, the second SYTYCD nomination (ie. not Travis), was for their Tap choreographer, Anthony Morigerato. The winner last season was a tapper, so he was brought in to choreograph her dance with an all-star during Top 4 Week (everyone gets to dance in their style). After watching that dance, I remember thinking that it had an outside chance at a nomination.
Thanks Court. I added your additions and sharpened up the post. Thanks to Heidi too for her help. What a day!
And wow, I wasn’t expecting Grease Live to be in competition with DWTS in a few categories.
FYI, Grease: Live actually got 10 nominations. “Outstanding Directing For A Variety Special” is missing from the list above.
Sorry for the double (or tripple) post, but I forgot to add a big thank you to the Mods for putting this together and for all your hard work all year!
Woohoo! As always congrats for Derek for snatching yet another Emmy nom! I’m still not keen on Bindi’s AT, either the performance or the choreo, but if it merits an Emmy nom to him then I’m good.
I don’t follow DWTS’ Emmy nominations every year, anyone knows what year DWTS got the most noms? Eight seems plenty to me.
Thanks Sonic!! x
Well if Tom doesn’t win Outstanding Host then I dearly hope Ru does. I love RuPaul’s Drag Race as much as DWTS.
Yay Derek, Tom and all the other noms for the show!
A big congratulations to everyone who got nominated for prestigious emmys. May the best nominee wins in all the categories. 😀
@Molly – Totally agree, Molly. And it wasn’t just the pros that were spouting the whole “Yay, Derek’s gone! Now other pros can really shine!!!” nonsense – there were quite a few fans as well, boasting that it would be Val/Sharna/Peta/Artem/etc. walking away with all the Emmy nominations now that Derek was gone. And yet, I would argue that this past season was one of the weakest we’ve seen for choreography – not only was Derek gone, but few seemed to step up their game in order to try and fill his shoes. It was as if most of the pros thought they could relax a bit, without the competition from Derek – he may helped the show by getting nominated and winning Emmy’s, but he also helped keep the standard high. And with him gone – it seems like the only pros really putting in 110% at this point are Mark & Lindsay. And while I’m also seeing a lot of fans citing the “SYTYCD is probably getting cancelled soon, that will open up the door for more nominations for DWTS!” theory, I hate to break it to them, but if SYTYCD leaves and the standard of choreography does not improve on DWTS, we may see ZERO nominations for DWTS – the Academy has already shown that they aren’t afraid to branch out and nominate more meritorious routines from shows other than DWTS/SYTYCD. Heck, the Academy is actually under no obligation to nominate ANYONE, if they feel that the field of applicants is not up-to-snuff – and there’s not an obligation that there has to be X number of nominees, either. There were only (3) back in 2012, I think. So I hope the remaining pros (and Nigel and the folks at SYTYCD, too) saw this and took heed – because neither show can expect an nomination each year at this point, with outside shows stepping up their game. They don’t have the monopoly anymore.
WOW! out of the 3 Derek nods I liked Footprints best followed by the Grace Kelly dance The AT was good but not as enjoyable as those two for me. I wonder if Bindi will be there to see him win. Most of the nominations for BOTH DWTS and Grease I’d give to Grease. I love Tom but wonder if Ryan Seacrest will get it just because it’s his last season, not saying he necessarily deserves it but thinking it might go that way. I haven’t seen Idol in years.
I will have to look at all the dance nominations but from where I sit Derek should get it hands down. Everything he did with Bindi was amazing.
My only regret is that their trio with Mark didn’t get a nod. I’d love to see Mark get some recognition too. Maybe next year.
The Crazy ex GF nominations are really weird.. the only one I liked was the old hollywood style. The other two seemed very elementary.
Yeah, the AT was not my favorite dance from Derek that season. I think I need to watch it again from just the choreography angle. I think I didn’t care for the dance because it seemed so outside the box for Bindi – which has nothing to do with Choreo at all.
Yeah, I was kinda shocked that the AT was part of the group that got submitted – I thought the Halloween theme would make any potential choreography seem too campy to be taken seriously. But maybe D got the nod based more on the merits of the freestyle & the foxtrot, and they just had to take the AT with it…
While I enjoyed them all IMHO Travis is the only one that comes even close to being as good as Derek.
Ok so first and foremost: congrats to dwts on all the nominations! That is how you do the Emmys 🙂 it’s the game of thrones of reality tv shows in that sense lol (PS I am elated that my top 2 shows on tv did so well 🙂 ). Anyways, when I read the choreography ones i think Derek is the front runner. The only routine that wowed me out of the group came out of America’s best dance crew oddly enough but I really can’t see that winning (but if it does that could be cool too). I really hope tom wins this year. I seacreast submits the series finale, I think he could get it though. As for reality tv show I am praying our show wins but I can’t help but root against the voice so I’m cool with any of them winning but that lol.
Sidenote: The nominations were pretty on point this season (I don’t watch the Americans but I assume it’s really good….the whole premise sorta freaks me out). Only thing I would change overall is adding the trio dance and removing Travis lol.
Just some thoughts… When I think about how these dances are submitted — on one CD, with one dance following another with only a few seconds in between (according to the rules as I understand them) — the addition of the AT at the end makes sense to me.
Here are my thoughts: Derek presents his dances in a way that will have the maximum bang! on people’s emotions. And one way he does that is by using the swell and percussion of the music pieces he is using, right? These dances are ordered in a way that starts out slow and builds to the end, and that Lost Boys music piece is a stunner with a powerful boom! ending which would work well to leave a final memorable “WOW!” impact on the judges, I think. So… although I would not have chosen that dance all by itself as one of Bindi’s best, I can sure see how it works for a dramatic ending to his submission of three dances. Perhaps those were his thoughts as well.
By the way, I’ve looked at the competing dances. I think the dances by Quest Crew are pretty complicated and amazing, and probably technically superior to the others because of that, but I think Derek’s submission is of the kind that would win the most hearts and minds. It will be interesting to see which one wins. I did read somewhere that popularity is still a very big factor in winning awards like this, so I’m kind of hoping that America’s near universal love affair with Bindi will put Derek over the top for the win if otherwise things are equal. 🙂
I just watched all the dances too. Derek’s dances, Travis Wall’s dances, and Quest Crew’s dances are all so good. I can’t figure out how the others even got nominated?
Hearty congratulations to Derek, Tom and the rest of the DWTS Emmy nominees! Congrats to Travis and the other choreography nominees, also.
As always, thank you to Princess Heidi, Vogue and Courtney for keeping up with all of the information; your insights and commentary.
I will watch the other (non DWTS) nominated dances in a day or two. Don’t really have the heart to right now.
Eight nominations for a 10+ year old show is remarkable. I just really wish they could have pulled out one more choreography nomination for Mark.
I think Quest probably wins; if there’s multiple winners, Quest and Travis (outside chance of Derek – just have a feeling that he may not pull this one off).
Tap routine was ok. Nothing terribly special. The Crazy Ex Girlfriend nominations are joke, though – how are they even in the same category as some of the crazy stuff Quest was pulling off???
lol good question, Court! Lame in comparison!
Really surprised and disappointed Mark didn’t get nominated for anything. Very happy for Derek, Tom and the show for theirs.
Nah, Court, they can eliminate one of the dances submitted and just nominate the other two – pretty sure it’s been done before.
Incidentally, I rewatched the dance and it was stunning. All three of his dances had either intricate or just wonderful choreography. I think at the time it originally aired, I found the Halloween dance just so far removed from my perception of Bindi and who she was that I didn’t like it. And the freestyle – I remember liking his week four contemporary better, yet when I rewatched the freestyle just now I realize I had forgotten how much content there was in there – probably because of all the talk about the photo at the end.
Yeah, I think it’s between Quest and Travis – both are much more slanted toward the Trophy than a Foxtrot and AT, even with the Contemporary thrown in.
Of course, I said travis would take it last year and he did…but it was a tie with Derek/Julianne/Tessandra.
As for Mark…I loved Mark’s dances with Paige. But when you compare his dances to Derek’s, he has a heavier focus on the production aspect most of the time, whereas Derek seems to focus more on the actual dance steps. Even in the AT, while there is production at the beginning, that dance is chock full of AT content and not simple content either. There’s nothing wrong with the way Mark does it – and frankly, many pros could take notes from him because the job is to make their celeb stand out and Mark does that in spades. But it may not lend itself to Choreo Emmy nominations quite as easily as Derek’s dances do. It’s a style thing.
So happy for Derek- his season with Bindi was awesome and I’m glad he got the nod. Like some of the others have mentioned, I was surprised he included the AT- it was actually one of my least favorites of their routines. I also liked the week 4 contemporary better than the freestyle. That being said, he knows the game and he honestly had several dances worthy of inclusion. I’m happy that he continues to be recognized for his innovation and genius.
After looking at the nominees, I am actually kinda pissed Mark wasn’t included. The crazy-xgf submission? You’ve got to be kidding me. I really think Mark’s routines with Paige were better than at least two of these nominees. I know that no one “deserves” a nomination, but Mark really carried a lot of the last season for me and, selfishly, I would have liked to see that acknowledged.
I don’t watch SYTYCD or ABDC, but I really like the Quest and Travis submissions after watching them. The other two ranged from meh to WTF.
Also- Tom is incredible and so worthy of winning the host award.
Val and Sharna bitching about Mark not being included is kind of a passive aggressive way of bitching about themselves not being included. Get real kids. You want to have a voice in the nominations? GET INVOLVED. Get involved in the academy peer groups, work outside “the family”, work, work, work period. Are you members of the Academy?? JOIN. Keep learning new things, new technique.
Expand your horizons, work your asses off…then you’ll have reason to complain.
Congrats to Tom, Derek, Bindi and DWTS for their well deserved recognition and best of luck to them in the contest!
Re: other pros wanting Emmy nominations
If this works like the acting nominations, network or shows put up artists for the academy’s consideration. DWTS probably did that for Derek but not anyone else this year, hence the jealousy. BUT if the pros have enough hubris, they could have their team put their work up for consideration also, separate from those DWTS were backing.
And none of them were guaranteed a nomination anyway. That takes both exceptional artistry, execution and as PH says, there is politics involved too.
Congrats to Derek ,Tom, and show on well deserved Emmys nods. I had feeling that ABDC show would get Emmy nods but I wasn’t sure at first since Grease and The Wiz came after but glad QQ got a nod.I was thinking nappytabs would get 1 as well from ABDC. Also Congrats to Travis on his Emmy nod. Isn’t it typical for Val and company always finding a way to complain after last yr even more they find ways to take jabs etc.
Mods, what do you think is the Emmy that DWTS will most likely walk away with? I think it’s either Outstanding Reality Program or Outstanding Host for a Reality Program.
@Colleen – The way it has been explained to us, any pro can submit a package for consideration for an Emmy – the production staff starts asking a few weeks before the deadline which dances they want submitted, and the editors put everything together for them. I never got the impression that the show/network said anything like “Well we’re only going to do a package for Derek, you don’t get one!” And really, it makes more sense for the show to submit as many packages as possible, because it gives them a better chance of actually getting nominated. More candidates submitted = more possible nominations. So if it is a jealousy thing with some of the pros, it’s not because the show didn’t submit a package for them – it’s because they know deep down that their own choreo doesn’t pass muster.
If DWTS thought Mark had a solid chance, I have to believe they submitted him for consideration especially since he is still with the show and Derek isn’t. I agree with Heidi, Derek has worked incredibly hard to build a reputation outside of DWTS and his name has clout in that world now, just as Travis and Nappy Tabs do. It’s reality.
As for Val’s comment, he really needs to drum up some courage and take a step away from that fam if he wants to grow and expand his horizons. That group think mentality is a chain around his neck and since Sharna ditched her choreographer BF she has fallen into that same trap. Whining on SM ain’t going to get it done.
I apologize, my previous comment was based on the assumption that the show decides on submissions. I did not see Heidi’s clarification above until now.
Mark’s submission “prolly got lost in the mail,” huh, Val? Guess that’s what happened to your tweet congratulating Derek.
It would be interesting to know what Mark submitted though. After Witney’s Emmy backlash I doubt Mark submitted Alexa’s Contemporary since it was co-choreographed by Alan Salazar who can’t be nominated for DWTS.
Yeah, the “they didn’t submit for Mark” idea is just another way for people to try to explain to themselves why he didn’t get a nomination. Oh the unfairness of it all!! Um, no. The producers most likely put together a package for every pro on the show – the winning of Emmys benefits the SHOW every bit as much as it does the talent being nominated. Courtney is correct – we’ve always heard that the producers work with each pro to come up with the dances for the submittal. The producers do the actual work of putting together the submissions once the choices have been made. They WANT one of their pros to win – I doubt VERY much they care which pro it is. Why would they? In fact, if they knew Derek was leaving, they might actually prefer Mark to win over Derek, since he was planning on sticking around. But they’ll take what they can get.
As I said on twitter yesterday afternoon, if the other pros are so anxious for one of their other peers to get nominated, there are tons of things they could do to increase their chances. What is the ONE difference between Derek and every other pro on that show, including Mark?? Derek works, and works hard, across many different dance groups, choreographers and styles. He’s INVOLVED in the whole of the dance community and isn’t just hanging with “the fam”. He’s worked with Allison before her coming to DWTS, Travis Wall, Chris Scott, Nappytabs…and probably far more than we even know about. He’s involved in the Dizzy Feet Foundation. He’s involved in making the academy more favorable toward all dancers (with Nappytabs). EVERY week, he’s working on something new – not ballroom – and with people outside his DWTS sphere. And he’s not even on the SHOW anymore!! THIS is why he’s turned into such an amazing choreographer, and THIS is why he gets recognized for it.
Looking over the pieces that got nominations over the past few years, it seems to me that they all include some elements of movement that are – or seem to be – original. Something included that makes a judge say, hey, that’s cool, I’ve never seen that before. The choreographer is then seen as having added to the dance “toolbox”, if you will, providing a new trick that others can later use or adapt for their creations.
Most dances on DWTS are only comprised of elements that have been used time and time again. It is the nature of the show to require a certain amount of elements out of the common syllabus. They are encouraged to put those elements in an original order to fit a new piece of music, but no matter how well those things are danced, no matter how cool the production is, it will still be missing that one thing that the Emmy judges seem to be looking for — a new tool for the common toolbox. An invention.
Val prides himself on using classic movements and being persnickety about doing them to perfection. His fans love him for that. But the rewards for that are trophies in dance meets where conformity to a common ideal are encouraged. Emmys seem to be the exact opposite — rewarding innovation.
Now Mark is exceedingly creative, but a good deal of that creativity is put into costume, make-up, set design, and overall lighting and production. We don’t often see an innovative movement from him, but he has been known to produce them, and he has won an Emmy nomination before. I feel certain that he’ll earn others in the future, but in truth, I don’t think any of the pros push themselves as much as Derek to break out of the confines of what is tried and true and take the risk of inventing new ways of dancing. His whole process seems to be diffferent from the other pros, creating things on the spot, as opposed to coming in to practice with a set idea of what you want to teach your celebrity. And I think that process allows him more freedom to experiment, which pays off with new inventions, which catch the eye of the Emmy folks.
Sorry about the length of this! I just have one thing to add, and that is that I think it is possible that Val was GENUINELY feeing bad that Mark did not get Emmy recognition after not getting the MBT with Paige. I know there is a bit of an Eddie Haskell air about Val that prompts some of us to look for a hidden or selfish motive when he says generous things like this, but Shirley Ballas has nothing but nice things to say about him, and if anyone could see an ulterior motive, it would be she, I think, so I’m going to take his comment at face value.
Again, sorry about the length!
Congrats to DWTS. As much as I love this show and Derek though, I must say I’m rooting for Dippity Dop.
The only thing that makes me kind of raise an eyebrow about Val’s ranting that Mark didn’t get nominated is that the Fam and their acolytes have kind of established a reputation of being “social media social justice warriors” – they seem to take up causes and rant about the unfairness of everything from Emmy nomination rules, to childhood obesity, to rape culture (I still think back to how Maks would not let up for WEEKS about Elizabeth Hasselbeck’s comment about Erin on The View – even after she had apologized and it was long past the point of letting bygones be bygones). And it doesn’t always feel genuine – at times, it just feels like ranting for the sake of ranting, because that’s what the Fam likes to do: rant about unfairness to show everyone how selfless and socially conscious they are, and how they’re always “fighting for the little guy”. As if it somehow makes them perpetually “in the right”. The whole Emmygate last summer just left me really skeptical, because it seems like most of them were using it as an opportunity to take a dig at Witney, when in reality it was the Academy’s rules that kept their buddy Alan (if he really is their buddy) from getting a co-nomination credit. So perhaps I’m a little hesitant in assuming that Val’s tweeting about Mark not getting nominated is 100% selfless…
@psychee22: Many good points, but notice how Val did not bother to congratulate Derek on the nomination. Since Val clearly places value on a nomination, can he not be sad, or whatever, for Mark and still be happy for Derek? Are the two mutually exclusive?
I think that, in and of itself, speaks volumes.
Thanks mods for the insight and info. And congratulations DWTS!
From reading this an your many other posts about Emmys and what they consider for nominations I can’t make myself understand why any of the Crazy Ex-Girlfriend numbers where nominated.
I would love Derek to win, of course, but I think he has competition from QC and Travis Wall. Visually all of QC’s numbers are insanely intricate and imaginative I really liked them. But I’m hoping that Grace Kelly umber will make the judges take notice. IMO that is one of the Top 5 dances performed by a celebrity and their partner on DWTS history.
Whatever happens congrats to this great show on 10 noms!
@Rose1. Do we know that he has not privately congratulated Derek by phone or text? I ask because sometimes it seems like folks think that if they don’t see something on social media, it didn’t happen. And yet, there are some communications that don’t need to be broadcasted to the public and have more meaning when they are private.
What if he designed his tweet in a way to get the maximum amount of positive attention from his fan base. Congratulating Derek in that tweet would not go over well with the part of his fan base who hate Derek, and we know that there are quite a few of them. But expressing snarky disappointment about Mark not getting a nod would endear him to Shirley and give his fans something to comment about.
Val’s Twitter seems to be his way of attracting attention to himself, and as Courtney remarked above, he does it through playing the role of the social issue kvetcher. This is a New York pastime. It fits with his culture. Sending sweet affirmations as a tweet is more of a west coast thing, I think.
By the way, I’m not much of a fan of this guy. I don’t think I’ve ever voted for him. I think he sometimes tries way too hard to be liked. But Shirley Ballas is very very fond of him, so I keep reminding myself to look for ways that I might be misinterpreting him, and that is what I am sharing. There may very well be a deep vulnerability there that he covers up with faux New York narcissistic swag. I’m not real willing to extend such empathy to his more rabid Derek-hating fans, though!
@Rose1. I think people like Val use Twitter to connect with their own fans. Val’s fans can’t relate to an ” I’m happy for Derek” message. They aren’t happy for Derek. They can relate to the tweet that he sent, though. Kvetching about stuff is a New York pastime, and this gave him a new opportunity to engage his fans. If I were he, I would send the congratulations directly to Derek via phone text, as I would guess most people of his acquaintance did. We don’t get to see those messages, so we can’t know if he sent one or not.
Huge congratulations to both Derek and to DWTS on their Emmy nominations!! What awesome news! So thrilled to see that Derek was nominated once again for “Outstanding Choreography” for the brilliant masterpieces that he creates. These 3 Emmy-nominated performances truly showcase his extraordinary versatility in several different dance styles, and he so deserves this great honor. And so happy to see DWTS received a total of 8 nominations in various categories! Amazing!! Hope they will be announced as winners in September!
Oh jeez. When the first post didn’t show up after a half hour, I did the second one,thinking the first one was lost in the ether and as soon as I posted that one, the other showed up! Grrr… Sorry.
I just got around to watching the nominated dances that I hadn’t seen before, and I was struck by two things.
First, with the possible exception of the Yoga number, the Crazy Ex-Girlfriend nomination is such a joke and I have no idea how it got nominated (even with the Yoga number).
Second, I REALLY hope Quest wins. Those dances were super intricate but also highly entertaining. I won’t be annoyed if Travis or Derek gets it, but I want Quest to win.
Val is on tour across the country and according to him and Maks it’s one of a kind tour…and he still have time to throw shade by bringing Mark’s name about the Emmy nomination? I just don’t understand this kind of jealousy. Like I said before, with this mentality he’ll only move one step while Derek will be 10 steps ahead of him.
I think for Val, Sharna and the Fam fandom Mark is now the poster child for “being unfairly put in Derek’s shadow”. Mark hasn’t won for 14 seasons, which is longer than Val and Sharna have been pros, so they see him as part of their “being unfairly robbed”-club. They obviously don’t mind it though that Mark is being unfairly put in Val’s shadow… And to be honest, Mark’s biggest chances at winning recently have been in the seasons Peta won. Neither Aly, Candace or Sadie had any chance against Zendaya, Meryl and Alfonso.
Mark is focusing on his music while not on DWTS which is great but Derek is always focused on branching out in his dancing, which has connected him with Allison, Travis, NappyTabs, Kenny Ortega, Paula Abdul etc.
If Val congratulation to Derek was sincere then good for him. I hope it’s not a case of “oops I did it again”, “Sorry” after a backlash from other fans.
Mark is doing what he loves and what is right for him…and not focusing on Emmys and what it takes to get one. And that’s GREAT for him, because to succeed in music will take a lot more work. Since Mark is busting his ass doing what he loves and doesn’t appear to be even remotely bitter…why can’t Val just STFU? And perhaps take NOTES from both Derek and Mark on how to succeed at LIFE.
I think Mark would MUCH prefer to win a Grammy.
@sonic. re: Crazy Ex-Girlfriend entry. I was thinking that it might have been given the nomination because the format is innovative? I agree with you that it doesn’t seem like it belongs with the rest, though.
Question to others — does anyone see anything new about Travis Wall’s dances in this group as compared to the dances he has already received Emmy’s for? They are beautiful dances, to be sure, but to me they seem predictable once you’ve seen what he has done before.
Or am I only thinking that because I want Derek’s entry to look better to the judges? 🙂
I don’t think Derek can beat QC this year, but I am still praying for a tie.
Val brought up on Twitter earlier this week that the reason Mark not is up for an Emmy (YET AGAIN!!!) is probably because the submissions are some how getting lost in the mail. You know something, I agree with Val 100%. And Psychee22 (#59), I think Mark should be nominated for a Grammy. It will make up for not being nominated for an Emmy. Maybe who ever is over the nominees do think that Mark is to focused on production to be nominated, but I don’t think that should matter. As long as the dances are memorable, that’s all that should matter. I with Val, Mark not being nominated is totally unjust. My dude and his fiancee are killing it right now, but being nominated for an Emmy would have been the cherry on top…!!!…
And by the way Heidi (#58), I think you are right. I don’t think that Mark cares about not being nominated for an Emmy. It’s great that he is doing something else that he loves (and getting to do it with someone he loves). Still i’m bummed and super confussed just like Val is. How is MB not being recognized by the Emmy’s for his amazing artistry on the show? I just don’t get it. But; again you are 100% right, I know that Emmy’s are not on Mark’s mind right now. He is on FIRE with he and BC’s outstanding, fantastic, powerful, explosive, energetic, exciting (and I can go on and on and on) music…!!!… And now I here that they are shooting a music video for Head High!?! What can beat that?
Er, it’s a *choreography* award, CH, not a “feelings” or “production” award. Of course it matters. And the whole lost in the mail thing – pretty sure Val was being facetious (look it up, Val). That’s just a silly idea.
Also, I didn’t say Mark didn’t CARE, I said he wasn’t bitter. And probably because he’s focused on his music, instead of on dance.
Judging by the Crazy Ex-Girlfriend nomination I got the feeling that the Emmy panel just doesn’t really care about DWTS and SYTYCD that much anymore and wanted to branch out away from these shows. For me that’s the one nomination that could have easily been a 2nd DWTS nomination instead but they obviously didn’t want to go that way.
And Mark loves his production so his idea of what his best dances are might just not coincide with the Emmys notion of it, that’s why it would be interesting to know what dances Mark actually submitted. He might have submitted Alexa’s Jazz, Alexa’s Paso and Paige’s Viennese Waltz…
Well, I think the Crazy Ex-Girlfriend nomination is their way to encourage the use of dance in ‘regular’ television. SYTYCD was sorely lacking in even competent choreography last summer, and I was surprised to see 2 nominations this year – just expected one, for Travis. I was truly disappointed that Mark wasn’t recognized – for me his Austin Powers Jazz, his Proud Mary Jive, his Stone Cold Viennese Waltz, and his Jive/Salsa Fusion were each so full of detail and inventiveness, and pushed the boundaries of their styles in ways we hadn’t seen. Maybe the panel had… Glad Derek was nominated!
But considering Alexa’s season was also part of the eligible dances and I think there was a lot of choreo with her that Mark himself loved we don’t know how many Paige dances he even submitted…
Remember, the Emmys aren’t required to nominate ANYONE and they can nominate as many as SIX…it all depends on how many people think something is worthy of a nomination. Crazy Ex-Girlfriend didn’t shut anyone out. They deemed other pieces as not worthy.
Also remember, that ballroom is FAR less likely to get a nomination than other dances. Derek is one of the few exceptions.
And Mark not getting nominated doesn’t mean that the Emmy panel doesn’t deem Mark worthy of a nomination, it just means that they didn’t deem the 3 dances he submitted from S21/S22 worthy of a nomination and we don’t know what pieces he actually submitted.
Well, I’d bet that Mark DIDN’T submit Alexa’s Paso – that was Derek’s…
Actually Laurie, Derek did Alexa’s Tango. Her Paso was the Edward Scissor Hands one from Halloween Week, which I could totally see Mark submitting. And sorry Mods if I’m over stepping, but IMO, your comment came off as a bit rude.
I think the LA awards folks are all now trying to keep nominations as diverse as possible, and not just racially. Including as many formats as possible might be as much of a goal as including as many dance types as possible and making sure not to unconsciously ignore any race or sex or sexual orientation. Crazy Ex GF is comedy, and that is in a class by itself, I would think. The goals are different. You judge comedic movement by how funny it is. You judge Travis Wall’s stuff by how visually interesting and emotional it is. You judge QC by how tight, complicated, and novel it is. And each of the other noms have a different standard of excellence. So I’m thinking that this year they tried to offer a diverse array of styles and chose what they thought was the best example of each. Would that make sense?
Oops – sorry! Didn’t mean to be rude-I just remembered wrong! Maybe that’s because I wasn’t as impressed with how Mark’s choreo ‘fit’ Alexa as it ‘fit’ Paige – and I haven’t watched any of Alexa’s dances (except for Derek’s tango with her) since the season aired. (And that tango with Derek was paso-ly fierce!)
@Laurie – Fair enough. It was the wording of your comment that came off as a bit condescending to me (regardless of the accuracy of your comment). I know it can be hard to word text comments in a way that isn’t perceived as rude without the benefit of tone of voice or facial expressions and it’s something I definitely struggle with too.
To be honest, I had to look up which dance Alexa’s Paso was; all I knew was that it wasn’t the one Derek had choreographed, because I knew that was a Tango.
Geri (#68), I agree with you. I don’t think that they see Mark as not deserving of an Emmy nod, but I think it’s petty for them to not see any of his dances from the past two seasons as worthy for at least one nod. No, they were not choreographed in a traditional ballroom dance style; but again, why does that matter. I have always thought about that too. I think Mark has not gotten any Emmy nods because his style of dancing is not traditional.
It might, Psychee22 – but the way you put it makes it more reasonable to think they just found Crazy Ex GF worthy on it’s own merit. After all, it IS a comedy and isn’t trying to be a dance show with professional dancers. But it is still choreography. It’s choreography that’s supposed to be *funny*. Yes, the choreography has a different goal than that performed on DWTS and SYTYCD. So, it can’t really be compared to DWTS and SYTYCD – which are DANCE shows.
And, perhaps, the people doing the voting are just tired of SYTYCD and DWTS unless the choreography REALLY speaks to them. Maybe they admired the ability of Crazy Ex-girlfriend to incorporate dance (and not *bad* dance, really) into an unusual format. Certainly more difficult to do that than putting dance in a dance show. Although some would argue that DWTS is having a hard time of that lately. 🙂
I think Mark struggled a great deal with Alexa, honestly. I wouldn’t have expected any of those dances to be submitted. She was just not really invested until the point where she was on the verge of leaving.
I could just totally see Mark submitting the Breaking Bad Jazz with Alexa and Alexa’s Edward Scissor Hands Paso since he loves the theatrical pieces.
I agree with Psychee22 though and think they were trying to keep the nominations as diverse as possible.
:::rolls eyes::: CH, for such a big fan of Mark’s you so rarely know what you’re talking about. Mark HAS been nominated for an Emmy – 2011 for dances with Chelsea Kane. Their Waltz, V.Waltz and Jive. NONE of those three dances were done in at “traditional” ballroom style – that’s likely why they were nominated.
Just stop already. It’s “petty”?? Not everything is a personal attack.
CH(#74), the Emmy panel hasn’t seen all of Mark’s dances from the past two seasons, just the 3 he submitted and we don’t know what he submitted. So it can’t be said that “they do not see ANY of his dances from the past two season as worthy of at least one nod”.
And speaking of diversity, without Crazy ExGF, there would not have been any female choreographers nominated for this Emmy. Imagine how that would have looked, assuming that they didn’t find someone else to tick that box, that is.
True…but that still doesn’t prevent Mark from getting a nomination if they found his submittal worthy. Again, they are not limited to 5.
You’re working very hard to find an explanation. Occam’s Razor. They typically have multiple female nominees every season – this ain’t an oscarssowhite issue. More than likely it’s just a style issue. And one ballroom is more than enough for them. That’s the way it’s always been.
That’s what I’m saying Geri (#79). Or then again, Heidi (#81) may be right. Maybe it’s not anything personal against Mark at all. I just feel like MB deserves some kind of recognition for his hard work on the show if not an Emmy.
I am surprised that Mark wasn’t nominated and I thought maybe Peta/Nyle dance for that other choreographer might.
I still think that Val knew they would keep ABC darling all the way to the finale so he didn’t have to work that hard. I think he also did only just what was necessary to make sure the Peta had the best chance of winning. He’ll do anything to keep big brother happy. He’ll forever be in his shadow because of it. He had the chance to break away and show what he could do but Maks started creeping back in to the DWTS show to keep some spotlight on himself. Last season he did it through his fiance.
I miss Derek on the show but I want him to shine elsewhere too.
Sorry, I should have prefaced the last post with in my opinion.
I think Mark has created some really amazing dances over the years. But I wonder, sometimes CH, if people forget that he and the other pros get a ton of recognition and many, many opportunities because of their work on DWTS (in addition to a great job doing what they love and making good money)! So many dancers would gladly take their places with or without a mirror ball (and Mark, I think has 2), and most hope to get a single emmy nod in their entire career.
This is actually only Derek’s 2nd nomination that doesn’t include any pro dances, the last being in 2010. I think the fact that there isn’t a Results show anymore or Macey’s Stars of Dance or any innovative pro numbers has limited DWTS’ chances of being nominated in that category.
I’m very happy for Derek. Very well deserved nomination. He produced some of his best choreography during season-21 with Bindi.
Derek is a great choreographer, no doubt about that..but his talent made him too full of himself & cocky. I am so glad Val (who is not even his so called ‘brother’ or ‘best friend’) called out Emmy people about Mark being robbed off the Emmy nomination.. his contemporary with Alexa & some of the dances with Paige surely deserved to be nominated. But Derek, his so called brother/best friend dint even uttered a word in Mark’s defense!
Anyways, i hope the best for Derek. But he could’ve taken a stand for his so called ‘brother’/ ‘best friend’ Mark Ballas for the unfair treatment. But i’m happy atleast Val, Sharna stood up for him. 🙂
Yeah, cuz everyone lives their lives on social media. :::rolls eyes::: Derek is the least “cocky” person on that entire show and that is including Mark.
Val didn’t “call out the Emmy people” – as if they even give two shits. No, Val was raging against the machine like he always does. All noise and no substance. I doubt he even cares – he just has to bitch on social media. Cause of the week.
“Unfair” treatment?? NOT getting a nomination is “unfair”?? I bet you’re one of those people who thinks everyone should win a MBT too, ain’t ya. Grow up!!
GREAT point, nl. Mark wouldn’t even have a music career right now, most likely, if not for DWTS. I’m also quite sure that Mark recognizes that as well, and is grateful that all DWTS has afforded him. He, like Derek, is making the most out of it.
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After the backlash about Witney’s Emmy nomination I doubt they submitted anything this time that included co-choreographers who can’t be nominated because they don’t officially work for DWTS which rules out Alexa’s Contemporary that was co-choreographed by Alan Salazar.
And it’s not Derek’s place, or Val’s for that matter, to decide what should and shouldn’t be nominated. I bet Val doesn’t even know what 3 dances Mark submitted.
How anyone could say Derek is full of himself and is cocky must not be watching the same show I am and it’s beyond my comprehension.
Also, Derek always stands up for Mark. But Derek is not a drama queen about it and isn’t going to post about it at twitter.
@reality bites. You wrote that you would have expected Derek to ditto Val’s slam on the Emmy committee choice of not including Mark.
I haven’t followed him very long, but it seems to me, and others can tell me if I am wrong, that Derek does not use social media that way. He uses it to inspire people, to congratulate and thank people, to bring attention to cool people or things he discovers, and to entertain fans with bits of his life. From time to time, he will express more sober thoughts in empathy for folks experiencing tragedy, but I don’t think he has ever called someone out or aired the kind of negativie opinion that you thought he should have in agreement with Val and I can’t imagine that Mark would want him to.
In fact, I don’t think I have ever read a re-tweet of agreement from him on any controversial topic. He seems to keep his opinions about controversies private. I like that about him.
@Psychee22 I agree with you 100% on how Derek uses social media (vs Val) and I also think that’s the way it should be used, negativity’s never helped anything or anyone. Actually, the only controversial topic I ever saw him writing about on Twitter was the whole Abby Lee Miller situation. He called her out because of her abusive teaching style. But that’s really the only thing I remember.
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Also, Mark doesn’t need anyone to “defend him” or “stand up for him”, it’s not like The Emmy commitee personally attacked him. The commitee simply picked choreographers from more diverse styles and shows to nominate this time around.
DWTS has never gotten as many nominations as SYTYCD so there is no way they would have gotten 2 when SYTYCD also got 2.
I’m on basic cable in the UK, so my exposure to American TV is pretty much limited to what I deem worthy of streaming the next day. Recently that’s been mostly competition shows (I like watching talented people work under ridiculous conditions, sue me) so I can only really comment on the hosting category. I’m kinda over Ryan Seacrest and the whole American Idol thing, and while I love Jane Lynch and Steve Harvey I haven’t seen either of their nominated shows, so it comes down to Project Runway, Drag Race and DWTS. Tim and Heidi are running down the clock until they get cancelled, and I’d be pissed if they won this year of all years. It comes down then to RuPaul and Tom Bergeron, which is a really tough choice because they’re both pretty close to perfect. I’d be happy either way. It’s actually funny to me that Ru’s costumes were nominated for the season premiere, because it was probably the weakest she looked all season to my eyes.