PureDWTS Angels Weigh In: Amber Rose Has a “Bone To Pick” With Julianne Hough
This news is blowing up all over. According to E Online, Amber Rose isn’t all too happy with Julianne Hough. On Amber’s recent podcast, she said she felt “body shamed” when Julianne said she “felt uncomfortable” during the grind on Dancing With The Stars this past week. Julianne also responded back to Amber. Below is more. Look for our thoughts afterwards. Be sure to tell us your thoughts too in comments.
E! News has the exclusive clip from Amber’s next episode of Play.it’s Loveline With Amber Rose where the co-host dishes on a recent experience with the blonde judge that rubbed her the wrong way.
Amber’s fellow host Dr. Chris Donaghue mentioned that he felt Julianne’s criticisms of Amber’s dance were unfair, to which she replied, “Last night was like, they did the commentary, and I, it was a point in the dance where I had to lift my leg up and Maks [Chmerkovskiy] dipped me & [Julianne] said, ‘Oh, I’m uncomfortable,’ and instantly I felt, I did feel body shamed.”
Amber added, “You know, all the beautiful professional dancers that are on Dancing With the Stars, I mean they dress very sexy and they do the splits and they grind up on these guys and they look absolutely stunning and get a standing ovation. And me, and my body, my hips, my ass, my breasts made her uncomfortable.”
Meanwhile, Julianne tells E! News exclusively, “To be clear, that was a produced package, not live coverage and they can put those sound bites anywhere. My ‘uncomfortable’ comment was about the fact that I felt like I wanted more out of the performance – when someone is doing a hot, sexy dance like that without the right amount of energy that is required, it can be uncomfortable to watch. ”
She continued, “Trust me I’m ALL for a sexy booty dance!! We all know that!! And any kind of body shaming goes against everything I believe in.”
More at E Online.
Our thoughts:
Vogue: When I first heard Julianne say she felt “uncomfortable”, I immediately thought same here since she wasn’t exactly doing a SALSA. Seriously, that dance was kind of a mess from the get go all over. It was like Maks couldn’t get her to do a Salsa, so, he just let her do whatever she wanted.
Miss Heidi: I think AMBER was uncomfortable in that moment and she projected it on to Julianne. I didn’t for a moment think “body shaming” when I heard the comment, I thought she was uncomfortable with the style and content of the dance. Julianne was echoing what most people who read this site were saying about that dance and nowhere did I see criticism of Amber’s body. In fact, most of us think she’s a very beautiful woman…with some insecurities like we all have. Own the insecurity instead of projecting it on to other people. And really, tell MAKS when you’re not comfortable doing something, because doing it when you’re not comfortable – TRULY not comfortable – will show on camera and make others feel the same. Honestly, the discomfort with that dance was that it was a bad dance. I felt the SAME discomfort in watching Maks and Val make idiots of themselves with that little scripted bit they did before their dance. Just dance, boys. And it had nothing to do with their bodies.
I think this is what they have come up with for her to get some sympathy votes.
Also to say, those that follow Julianne know she is opposed to any and all bullying and works diligently against it. Amber clearly doesn’t know much about Julianna.
Possibly. Maks is usually long on tactics and short on choreography. But Amber seems more straight up than that.
Personally, I agree that no body shaming occurred here, and in my opinion, when the comment was said, I thought Julianne was referring to the lack of salsa & that Amber herself didn’t really seem completely comfortable doing the dance.
In terms of what Julianne had to say in response about the editing, when she stated she felt uncomfortable, the camera was only showing Jules & Bruno. From first watching, to me it looked like she said it right before she said there wasn’t enough salsa.
This “dance” (and I use that term lightly), made me all kinds of uncomfortable and it had nothing to do with Amber’s body per se!
I guess my bigger issue is that something like this which is overblown and IMO NOT body shaming, gives true body shaming a bad name! When a word or phrase is over, or inappropriately used, it loses its effectiveness!
Same here. I think most viewers were uncomfortable and it had nothing to do with her body or its shape. As Julianne said afterward, she blamed Maks, the professional dancer for not choreographing an actual salsa but a strip club number, imo. I say the same thing about the pro women bump-n-grinds that Mandy has been doing for many seasons. The girls are gorgeous, that’s not the issue.
Editing strikes yet again!!!! I never thought for one second Julianne was body shamming. It was all about the no content dance and I use that word loosely. Amber is gorgeous and Max is just taking his paycheck, phoning it in.
This is what Julianne had to say about it to Entertainment Tonight
“My comments were solely reacting to the quality of the dance I was judging,” Hough, 28, said in a statement to ET. “I have been a strong proponent of female empowerment and an anti-bullying advocate for years and I take that very seriously.”
She added, “Any kind of body shaming is the furthest thing from who I am and what I stand for.”
Sorry if I’m overstepping posting this, but I thought these comments were important, clarifying exactly what Julianne meant.
I hope Julianne isn’t forced into doing an apology tour when she didn’t do anything wrong here. As much as DWTS wants Derek and Julianne on the show, they don’t seem to be treating them very respectfully. The BS edit they gave Derek this week, and now this.
Thanks for posting Julianne’s response. I was wondering if she did respond after seeing some headlines about what Amber said.
I think this is just fodder for Amber to promote and have a real life, current example of “slut shaming” since she’s doing her SlutWalk event or whatever its called with Maks soon, if not already. I’m sure she’ll bring it up.
I may be older than teens these days, but I don’t understand why some people use the word “slut shaming” whenever someone is uncomfortable or doesn’t agree with what your wearing or doing or saying.
Not to be too judgemental, but for me, I thought Amber’s dance with Maks, technically speaking, was amateur and a cop out for her from Maks. It was so predictable and too basic. She even said it herself, that she wasn’t out of breath after it.
Now, I do believe it was indecent and innappropriate for the show. I have neices who watch DWTS and are in middle school. Why is it so bad for Julianne to say that…what if Julianne said “oh that’s a bit indecent?” IDK maybe I just hate twerking. lol
I dont’ think Amber felt uncomfortable, but she did look uncomfortable or maybe confused like this is not a salsa.
Twerking up against a guy and performing a sensual figure 8 is two totally different things for me. Amber’s defense is taking both things out of context…need to look at the whole picture, in my opinion.
Wait…maybe TPTB are encouraging this lol.
Julianne is a hater. Point blank period.
Honestly, I had to rack my brain to even remember a whole lot of what the judges said this week, since we heard so little from them and I’m used to tuning them out, anyway. I agree that I don’t think Julianne was specifically body-shaming Amber, and that Amber may just be conditioned to complaints being made about her body and automatically assumed that’s what Julianne was doing. But what I actually honed in on more was “Should they have really used the judges’ comments from during the dance?” I remember hearing some of what they were saying during the actual dance and thinking “Man, some of this is kinda harsh…did the judges know this was going to get used on results show night?” I vaguely remember Bruno making some joke about someone (Rick maybe?) looking like he was “ready for takeoff” and thinking “Erm, not sure I’d want to hear that from one of the judges, if I were him!” Part of me thinks a lot of what we heard from them DURING the dances was just a whole lot of verbal diarrhea, and not the more coherent, well-thought-out critiques we get from them after the dance is done and they’ve submitted their score. I think it was actually a mistake to use those sound bytes, no matter how important some thought it was to hear from the judges this week. Just seems like more potential for misunderstandings…
*eye roll* Sorry Janet, but anytime someone throws “Point blank period” at the end of a statement, I automatically disregard anything they’ve said – because it just comes across as a hostile, unintelligent reason for whatever argument they’re trying to make. I generally write off accusations of “hater!!!!” for the same reason – pretty childish.
Honestly, if Julianne had said this about anyone other than Maks’s partner, it wouldn’t have even registered as a blip on the radar. The fact that Amber Rose is a relatively big name get for the show is what blew it out of proportion.
Also, Janet/Jamie/Alicia/Hayley4Pro/Heather/jessamyn, pick one name.
I was upset about the comments the judges were making when they were showing the dances. Between their comments and the bad edit they gave Derek, the producers were not showing the more positive aspects of the show. I have tuned in to DWTS for the enjoyment of watching the journey each couple is on and how they grow and improve. I am finding this season to be highly manipulative and at times downright unfriendly to the couples as well as the viewers.
I wonder if Maks encouraged her to say this about Julianne. It’s pretty obvious that there is no love lost between Julianne and Maks (and I think it goes more deep than Julianne making a comment that Maks was phoning in that dance with Danica a couple years ago that ticked off Maks.)I really could see him doing that with Amber. Nothing would make him happier if next season the producers put Maks in the judge’s chair instead of Julianne because of the dust up Amber is yaking about.
I am surprised. If anything Julianne is against bullying. Honestly this just seems like “I’m not doing as well as I thought and need more votes so I’m just going to complain about somethig little and blow it out of proportion.” This seems like a maks move too. This isn’t going to help her either. After reading the comments on Facebook and talking with my friends their opinion on her hasn’t changed at all and this just adds to it. I think she is gorgeous and love her spunk but she should have realized that this could have come back to bite her. I agree with whoever said that if she felt uncomfortable she should have told maks. It’s like he doesn’t care at all this season and wants to play up her sex appeal and edginess but she doesn’t yet doesn’t tell him that. Just a very weird situation overall. Can’t wait to see how maks is going to spin this now in the video package -_-
I do think Julianne has more than earned the benefit of the doubt in this situation. And really, I don’t think there’s that much doubt. Like her, I was uncomfortable too because the dance didn’t feel right. It had nothing to do with the appearance of those dancing it and everything to do with the choreography.
I do feel for Amber in that I’ve been there…thinking others are making really hurtful comments about my body (and in my case it wasn’t in front of millions of TV viewers). I can see how if she felt attacked how she would react that way, and I don’t prescribe any bad intent on her part at all.
I agree with Courtney that some of the stealth camera/microphone clips that were shown on Tuesday left me uncomfortable. I don’t always like the judges and sometimes find them to be unprofessional, but I don’t think professionalism is the issue here. They either need to be told that these moments can make it on the air, or TPTB need to not put them on the air. Otherwise, what the celebs are getting isn’t composed or useful critiques.
I felt the same way watching Amber and Maks and that Salsa as I was watching Mischa and Artem. I was uncomfortable and it had nothing to do with their bodies but the dance (or lack thereof) itself.
I honestly believe that this is just for publicity for Amber’s slutwalk this weekend. I hope it is because I’d hate to think that her self esteem is that low. IMO, Maks is fueling this fire for votes.
@Darlene – I don’t see this “dust-up” doing much of anything, let alone ousting Julianne as a judge and installing Maks instead. I agree that this seems like a total Maks move – which, in addition to being kinda underhanded, is also not particularly well thought-out 😛 It kinda reminds me of the troll we had last week that completely misinterpreted Heidi’s use of the phrase “a tough row to hoe” (which is a common idiom) as Heidi implying that Laurie was a whore, and then threatened to tell her “producer friend” and “get us shut down” – in the end, it’s the accuser that is gonna look like a complete bonehead, not the one that made the original comment.
Here’s the thing about Maks judging: if they wanted him as a judge, he would be a judge. Instead, he’s been relegated back to pro. What does that tell you?
I also thought that Julianne was referring to the “lack of Salsa” in the dance and this made the dance uncomfortable. But, I also don’t think it was a good song to dance a Salsa to either. And, I also don’t feel Maks is that invested in his partner; since he just seems to want to just have fun.
Sidenote, between this and the stuff they did to make Marilu and Derek look like they were not getting along….tptb must be real proud of themselves.
@molly: i think you are on to something about the “slutwalk” (which has such a horrible name….like geez they couldn’t have chosen a worse name. If the whole point is to take some stigma off of all of that what about “confidence walk” or “positivity walk” or something like that? No they go right to that lol.).
This is the producers having their cake (The Houghs) and eating it too (typical BS editing, attack behavior), JM. I just re-watched the results show yesterday and totally figured out why I disliked the show so much and it wasn’t how they edited Derek, really, at all. He didn’t say anything remotely wrong – he was HONEST with his partner about there being mistakes, told her it was okay, that it happens, etc. But then in that segment later in the show, Kym says he seemed frustrated, blah blah and he acts surprised and says no…and explains himself. She then asks the same question AGAIN just using different words, clearly trying very hard to get him to admit to anger, disappointment, whatever with Marilu. She’s doing what the voices in her ear are telling her to do…but it was really uncalled for. Derek started getting this really steely look in his eyes in response to the question, but still managed to turn the conversation positive. But he was on the verge of pissed off. THIS is what is really shitty about reality shows – when they try so freakin’ hard to create drama. And it’s only really exciting drama when the actual stars of the show are involved.
And, sadly, there are plenty of idiots in the world who just believe what they see on TV and read online without question or thought. I had to block Holly Robinson Peete on Twitter because she can’t have a rational conversation – she’s arguing with Derek fans online because they took issue with her claim that he didn’t treat her friend Marilu “nicely”. And she’s been on TV and should know better…although judging from her conversation style, she’s not the sharpest tool in the shed. Marilu jumped on line and said Derek is amazing, they’re on the same page with wanting high quality dances, yadda yadda and her response is “that’s who Marilu is”. :::rolls eyes:::
Poor little producers – so conflicted. They desperately want/need Derek and Julianne on the show for a variety of reasons, but they also want people to be talking, stirred up about it, so that they watch the show. They gotta be somewhat schizophrenic trying to satisfy all their needs. I suggest they tread carefully. Derek and Julianne are nice people and are probably being paid VERY well to be there. But at some point, the cons may outweigh the pros of being on the show. And the producers will have done it to themselves.
Only people with no intellect to engage in a rational discussion use the phrase “point blank period.”
Amber Rose is a big name get for this show?? In which universe?? The under 25 twitter universe? Cuz she sure doesn’t fit the main demo that watches this show. In terms of celebrity, several of the celebs on the show are bigger names/gets than her. Laurie, Maureen, Marilu, Babyface, Rick Perry…that’s just off the top of my head.
Darlene, I would say there is zero chance of Maks replacing Julianne UNLESS Julianne decides not to come back. And it certainly wouldn’t be because of Amber.
I never felt uncomfortable watching the dance I just thought it wasn’t Salsa at all, and the choreo was corny thus cringeworthy. Frankly there have been a lot of other dances like that shit they called a female pro dance, that was a lot more uncomfortable watch. Julianne must have forgotten some of her own past choreo like that Wicks Rumba to feel so uncomfortable.
:::rolls eyes::: Haven’t you given up YET, Casanova?? No one is looking at you as an authority.
@# Casanova
exactly .. it lacks salsa but it was not uncomfortable, unless Juliane meant something else about ” uncomfortable ”
therefore i didn’t like Julianne’s comment .. i felt sorry for Amber
the strangest thing for me from the beginning of the show is i didnt see the slut side of Amber ..on the contrary i saw shy woman with grace ! .. she was even shy when Kim ask her to repeat a booty move !!
I’m disappointed in Amber a little. Part of the reason I love her is that she’s a straight shooter and really speaks up for the stuff she cares about. I guess maybe its possible she felt body shamed, but come on- judges have said “this is uncomfortable” several times over the years. She was clearly referring to the dance itself. This feels manipulative to me.
I can see this being Amber’s arc next week. Amber talking about body shaming, Julianne is forced to apologize and be super nice, and they get a shockingly high score and escape elimination. Ugh, this is part of the show I hate.
Crazy idea in my brain – don’t air these comments in the first place!! All it does is stir the pot and cause misunderstandings/ hurt feelings etc…I really hate when there are cameras/ mics everywhere. I don’t need to see/ hear everything that’s going on. I’m only interested in what happens on the dance floor. But I guess creating drama is high on TPTB list of importance!!
First thing I thought of concerning Derek’s piece this week was “hmmm look who’s getting a lot of votes and tptb aren’t happy, so let’s try and make him look bad”.
I agree wholeheartedly with Julianne and pretty much the rest of you. Ambers dance was uncomfortable. I think she is absolutely gorgeous but I didn’t like the dance at all. I’m not a fan of Maks, so I’ll just give them the benefit of the doubt and say the song was their downfall. Poor song, no good way to make it a decent salsa. She deserves better. Hope their song this week showcases her a bit better.
Amber has been playing the victim since the first week, always complaining about something or other. I’m surprised the producers haven’t realized she’s too much trouble and manipulated the votes to get rid of her like they did Shannen Doherty in her first week, days after getting into a fight with a producer over a parking space.
I interpreted Julianne’s “uncomfortable” comment as being that the dance was NOT a salsa and instead looking like something straight up out of a sex club. I’m no prude and often roll my eyes when Len refers to a dance as “too much raunch” but that thing Amber and Maks claimed was a dance on Monday night was a joke.
If anyone should have been upset by judges comments this week it should have been Jana when one of the judges said something about “she f_cked that up” at the beginning of her dance.
I just hope the star and their pro can’t hear those comments from the judges while they’re dancing as hearing some of what they say would throw me right off.
I completely agree that Julianne wasn’t body shaming her. I agree with Heidi; Amber was uncomfortable in the moment. I thought the choreography let her down.
The dance was uncomfortable to watch; it was almost pure night club dancing versus a salsa. Maureen attempted a proper salsa and you can see the difference.
I immediately thought this was a way of getting sympathy votes too. I am so bad for thinking that way but it just feels like a stretch for Amber to think that is what the comment meant. Producer manipulation or Max? I just hope it doesn’t mean a better dancer leaves before her.
#18 @ Darlene “I wonder if Maks encouraged her to say this about Julianne.”
That was my first thought. He was pissed she called him out directly for not actually choreographing the dance style he was given because he’s the pro & knows better. So he used Amber as his conduit whether she knows it or not. He knew it would make press & he wanted to try & gain sympathy for his team & anger towards Julianne. So something he would do.
When I heard the “uncomfortable” comment, I assumed she meant she felt uncomfortable for the same reason I did: that kind of raunchy dance is not what is supposed to happen in a ballroom dancing competition. I watch DWTS to see people do ballroom dancing, and I would have felt uncomfortable watching any couple do that dance, regardless of their body types. I hope that Amber reads/hears Julianne’s explanation and understands that the comment had everything to do with the dance and nothing to do with the individuals performing it.
As far as the airing of the judges’ commentary during the dances, I didn’t even think the uncomfortable comment was the worst one. I specifically remember Bruno saying something along the lines of: “It looks like she’s dancing around a lamp post,” during Cheryl and Ryan’s, and I thought: “Wow, that’s a pretty abrasive way to tell someone that he was doing a bit too much standing around and not quite enough dancing.”
Julianne got completely thrown under the bus and criticized for being uncomfortable. She didn’t say what she was uncomfortable about in the clip, so why just make up the reason yourself? I believe it’s because Amber was speaking out of insecurity and fear, and I really can’t fault her for that. Dancing in front of judges, who are there to judge you after all, and millions of people would make most people fearful I believe. It’s not fair to assume Julianne’s intentions though. She could have been uncomfortable about a million things and maybe Maks was the source. Unfair to Jules.
I used to love this show. For a few seasons I’ve been just watching the dances on you tube and here but the powers that be are just off the track. Talked to some of my friends about this and we seem to be in agreement that we are moving on to the voice. Really appreciate everything that the mods have done but we are done. Thanks
I actually when I heard that comment from Julianne i thought it was meant in a “this is too over- sexualized her body in this dance and this choreography makes me feel uncomfortable.” But because I am familiar with Julianne as a very feminist body- positive woman I immediately dismissed it.
Looking at the horrid super sexual comments Amber Rose gets on social media makes me think that she misconstrued what Julianne said, and maybe she has become very sensitized to perceived negative sexual comments from people. It also didnt help that the producers totally put that sound bite in for dramatic purposes and the context behind it was lost.
The producers made a big mistake in judgement by editing Julianne negatively which was misinterpreted by Amber. I hope Julianne made her anger known.
The stealth comments were fun in the beginning when they were light and fun comments shown. This week, it seemed like the producers only showed negative comments which came off as mean. But now the judges are not going to be spontaneously saying anything during performances. That’s why Len was relatively quiet.
What is wrong with these new producers by trying to bring down the Houghs? I’m beginning to really hate these new producers .
I too thought Julianne just meant she was uncomfortable with such a poor salsa. Maks had to know that dance would not be well received by the judges, right? Amber Rose is so beautiful, and that costume and dance did nothing for her. I’m sure all the judges felt uncomfortable with having to score that as a salsa. Maureen amazed me by doing so much better, and I loved her costume.
And Maks and Amber seemed excited to perform their booty song with all the twerking. It was hip hop but it wasn’t a proper dance that Len would like. No surprise there. He hates the raunch. And isn’t twerking technically a sexual dance move anyway?
If ANYONE body shamed Amber it was whomever gave her the BOOTY song in first place. The only song I can think of that would be even more blatantly obvious is Dance 10 Looks 3 from A Chorus Line! Though Maks could have made it a little less obvious had he stuck to a SALSA instead of that hot mess of a dance they did.
Oh and lest we forget Julianne’s comment about BINDI’S Salsa last year.
‘I wish I could’ve seen a bit more down and dirty, because that’s what salsa is all about,’
so yeah she clearly is not uncomfortable about women using their assets.
The latest People article says Amber will “embrace her body” in her next dance, and “Come Monday’s episode of DWTS, viewers can expect to hear Hough address the controversy”. I’m getting a really bad feeling about this. Why should she have to address this faux controversy?
These producers aren’t new this season, you realize. Dude’s been at the helm for a little while now. But the stupid crap has gone up dramatically with his arrival.
One of the Hough’s downfalls, Chayse (and I say that semi-jokingly) is that no one will force them to apologize. They will apologize even if something isn’t their fault. But the word choice might be interesting. 🙂
That could be People guessing, JM. I wouldn’t get worried just yet.
Of course, I doubt they want Maks to leave just yet…
I wonder if Amber has seen the video of Maks and Val dancing fully unclothed, except for hats on their privates. He is her biggest problem. He and Val have proven that they have no self-respect AT ALL with that piece of crap routine they did on Tuesday, which was actually a perfect companion to the piece of crap routine they did when announcing their summer tour last spring. All ego. No self-respect. If TPTB it probably never occurred to him to “Go high,” and choreograph a real salsa, without dancing in front of a wall screaming BOOTY!!!
I also wonder if Amber spoke to anyone connected with the show, like any of the pros, or other celebs about how she felt. I’m certain that any of them would have assured Amber that Julianne would not have meant to “shame” her in any way whatsoever. On the other hand, Amber agreed to be on a program where what her body does is going to be judged. If that makes her feel “shamed,” she probably shouldn’t have done the show.
I think probably Maks and the producers are feeding this fire for some PR for Amber and just general stir the pot. That dance reminded me of when Maks had Hope Solo do that lap dance for him. Maks should have choreographed something that at least resembled a salsa but he took the easy way out.
Too bad Amber got Maks as a partner.
I actually feel bad for Julianne come Monday’s show, as I said earlier I believe she said nothing wrong and Amber interpreted the comment how she wanted to hear it, so how is Jules going to critique her next week? Probably walking on egg shells or apologising for doing nothing wrong. I don’t think it’s fair to put her in that situation, especially since I believe she is such a nice person and probably will apologise or just be overly nice about Amber’s dance. I hope the show don’t bring it up or if they do, they don’t make Jules look bad especially since she has clarified her comment a couple of times already.
@Heidi-I meant more with the dance this week. I can Jules going overboard on the “I’m sorry if you took my comment the wrong way- you are such a strong powerful woman and that dance really showed it” and then giving her an inflated score. The whole thing- Amber’s remarks, Julianne’s apology, the people article- just seems so manipulated in order to create this big comeback week for Amber. She must be really close to being eliminated.
Its a shame because my opinion of Amber, whom I started out loving, is slowly starting to go down.
I keep a list of rankings on paper just to see who dropped and went up in rankings as the season goes on (is I this for survivor as well…..I swear it sounds weird bute and my friends kinda use it during the course of the seasons like crazy…it still amazes me how much they like survivor and can predict the winner from week one…if any betting people are out ther betting on the show they say zeke lol) and anyways Amber started off towards the top for me and now is in last place. I hate to say it but I wouldn’t mind seeing her gone if this is what she brings to the table.
I don’t understand.
Has the “concept creep” gone so far now with this term that it is not possible anymore to criticize anything that someone is doing with their body without being guilty of “body shaming”?
When Miley Cyrus was criticized for her MTV VMA raunchy twerk toward Robin Thicke’s crotch, was that “body shaming”?
Amber is using this term as a dog whistle to get sympathy. Right now, there are 30 tabloids running with this story and the number of tabloids covering it is growing exponentially.
But how many of them are reporting that the ONLY thing said about Amber’s body was said by Len who said “She was right out front when they were giving out booties!”
NONE.
Before this,I thought she was a fun addition to the show, but now that Amber has unfairly gone ugly on Julianne I will be happy when she is eliminated. Observing this kind of tabloid-whistled sensationalism is not fun for me. It’s nasty.
Chayse – Amber doesn’t need a comeback as someone has been dumb enough to give her $8 million to do a world tour in which she talks about sex which is ironic considering she claims she hasn’t had any in a year. That’s lined up for after DWTS winds up. I suspect doing DWTS was just a way for her to raise her profile in order to land that gig. Why anyone would pay anyone $8 million to go around the world and talk is beyond me.
Does anyone follow Amber on Instagram, all she posts about is her message about body shaming. Wonder if this was a publicity stunt to promote her message and the events she has with them. If so it is kinda genius either that or just her previous insecurities about her body made her jump to that conclusion. I found nothing wrong with Jules comment especially considering the “I am uncomfortable” comment has been used many times before by judges specifically Bruno.
Amber is a feminist and we all know what modern feminists love to do – assuming & victiziming themselves. Jules’ comment wasn’t a bodyshaming but I guess if Amber wanna be a victim so bad let her be one. After all, Julianne hasn’t done anything wrong but voice what she, and lots of people, thought. I wouldn’t mind if she left next week.
Alex, don’t make sweeping generalizations like that. It’s distasteful and from you it reads misogynistic.
This whole thing reeks of Lizzie! Isn’t she doing PR for Maks again?
All I know is TPTB are salivating with all these gifts dropping at their gnarly feet. First, Lochte protesters on live TV. Now this. Bet Amber dances in the pimp spot or close to it. TPTB want all the drama lovers in eager anticipation of the confrontation between Jules and Amber.
Eight million for that?! Geez, that’s nuts that people would even pay to hear her talk about it all. hope she isn’t bringing her kid on that trip
I was actually really disappointed in Amber’s comments, if she knew anything about Julianne and Derek for that matter, she’d know how much they hate ANY kind of bullying or body shamming.
It’s like the producers have this kind of love hate relationship with Derek and Julianne, they want them on the show so badly but they try so hard to stir up drama or make them look bad.
You could tell Derek was getting irritated when Kym kept pressing the issue, and it takes a lot to piss him off. Derek has the patience of a saint, but you push him enough and it will not be pretty…..
Angela #60: I totally believe it was a publicity stunt. Gotta give it to the woman, she knows how to get her name out there. Now, do the judges walk on egg shells? I wanted her voted off last week so badly but knew it wouldn’t happen because little C brother had immunity.
I really enjoyed the dance part of the show last week, but after the results show, I was just left feeling sad about the show like others were.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for feminism and strong women who feel confident in themselves, but I sometimes think Amber maybe takes it too far.. But the fact that Julianne came out and said it was a poorly edited package makes me realize that in this case it was just the show trying to create drama.
However, there was also the Derek Tweets from this morning about the sexualization of dancers. Now I know Derek may have just been drunk Tweeting, but I agree with what he said and it actually made me feel bad for the Pros on the show. Many of these PROFESSIONAL dancers have trained since their early childhood in a form of dance (Latin & Ballroom) that is actually very beautiful and my no means easy when done with the proper technique. So, to have the show’s producers or choreographers tell them to just take off their clothes and shake their booty’s is actually just making a mockery them and their years of hard work and careers. Again, I’m probably overanalyzing Derek’s tweets, but it would not surprise me if world champion dancers like Derek, Cheryl, Karina, Val, Gleb or others are upset by such a thing.
@Amanda I am quite sure that those Derek tweets you mentioned were directed towards producers/pro numbers choreographers. However, it seems like Val took it to the personal side judging by his last couple of tweets… I mean, I understand that Derek might have been sickened about this over sexualisation, tweeted about it and then thought it twice and deleted it. But the Val shade hours later… I really liked Val but I cannot stand thia childish C-bro’s behaviour anymore, like any of you.
Cristina- I just saw those Tweets by Val. All I did was laugh. How can someone who is a hugely successful latin ballroom dancer implying that stripping is better than actual technique? That Val seemed to take that personal says a lot about him. A lot of not very good things.
Part of me is a little worried about Derek as well. It may just be overprotective fan instinct, but I worry that he is being overwhelmed with work that might have led to him ultimately tweeting that, which highly out of character for him if we’re being honest. With the night under the stars performance tonight, choreography for the show on Tuesday, releasing music videos, teaching Marilu, upcoming Hairspray Live rehearsals not to mention the strain of having the show try to make you come off like a bad person. We all know the reason Derek tweeted that was because he holds the show, and himself, to a high standard and just wants the best for the show. However, maybe it’s time for Derek to realize maybe the show just isn’t helping his career and he needs to move on to better things (which he will, eventually)
No, Amanda, I think you are pretty much on target regarding Derek’s tweets (drunk or sober, does it matter? It was a truth we’ve been expressing here for more than a year). Makes me very curious to see the Male pro dance…and if Derek will be a part of it. Incidentally, DWTSGossip said that Cheryl complained and refused to participate in the female sex show…I mean, dance…and sure enough, I checked the video and Cheryl isn’t in it. Clearly, Derek and Cheryl are in a position where they can complain and sit out if they feel they need/want to – makes you wonder how many of the women feel the same but need the job more. And I wonder if Derek and Cheryl’s comments will have any impact whatsoever on Mandy.
As for Val – moronic as per usual. I can’t tell if he thinks Derek was tweeting about *him* (cuz his fans sure think everything is about him) and Maks, or if he’s defending Mandy’s choreography. Either way, he’s quite the asshole. He and Maks both complain that there is no rivalry, and their fans claim that it’s “fans” who create the rivalries. That’s bullshit – Val stokes this crap all the time. Val’s fans – because they are totally insecure – buy into it and do their usual insanity, while Derek fans don’t even know anything is going on. LOL – had NO idea that anyone could possibly see those tweets and think Val/Maks until one of their stupid fans tweeted Derek about it. Val/Maks fans and Trump fans – two groups so insecure they were sure Derek was talking about them (cue Carly Simon).
Amanda, going by the various snapchats I saw, Derek went to a long rehearsal for Night Under the Stars and then to a birthday party for Arielle Vandenburg…I think he just had too much truth serum. 😀
Okay I saw those snapchats… Derek was a bit tipsy. LOL. No real harm in that. He deserves to have some fun at times with all the hard work he does. Last thing I’ll say about this then I’m done: Val is a fantastic dancer and I’ve tried to like him as a person and support him but I’m starting to reach my limit. Val makes stupid mistakes all the time. Derek makes mistakes as well. The difference between him and Derek? Val usually plays the victim while Derek usually apologizes. Sometimes when he doesn’t even need to. Val still needs to realize he has a lot of growing up to do as a person. Seriously.
I’m relieved that I wasn’t the only person who thought the ladies pro dance Monday night crossed the line. I’m seeing more women commenting that they have to send their kids out of the room during DWTS at times. But then, there were also those who were disappointed Cheryl wasn’t in that dance, thinking they excluded her lol. Good for Cheryl, and I too am curious to see if Derek went along not with whatever is going on this Monday. I’m just sorry he deleted his tweets.
@Amanda, I agree with you. I try to be as objective as I can and in the beginning as I thought Val would be quite different than Maks. However, while I do like his technique and think he is a skilled dancer…they (more so Val for me..Maks took it down a bit) really come off as cocky/arrogant at times. I can’t think of every example, but I always get this feeling whenever I see Val’s tweets or vids during off season months. I think Val might have an insecurity complex.
Also, I support Cheryl if she did opt out of the all girls dance on Tuesday. When I first heard Tom announce the dance coming up I kept looking for Cheryl, I had a feeling she wouldn’t be part of it…because she stands up for what she believes in. I did notice another female dancer who looked similar to Cheryl (maybe tracey shibata not sure), but I just assumed since she was in jeapordy she ain’t dancing.
Maybe Mandy knows this and choreographed it for someone else to step in. If you are in a position to speak up for your morals, I think you should…respectfully and in a mature manner.
I don’t even think Val follows Derek on twitter…but seems like he’s reading those tweets.
But, I do think DWTS/TPTB really upped the ante when it comes to glamorizing sex/sexuality through media television.
I find it hilarious that Val doesn’t follow Derek on twitter, claims not to care about him, but finds a way to shady subtweet him at every opportunity. I loved Val when he first came on, voted for him and Kelly and him and Zendaya, but this crap is the reason I find it impossible to vote for him or really like him- and just when I was really starting to love him and Laurie….At least Maks said his stuff straight to people’s faces, he didn’t subtweet and wait for his followers to attack.
Alex- I’m gonna try to be as nice as I can. I am a “modern feminist” and I find your generalization incredibly insulting. As to that point and Kerenza’s about who is “paying her to talk”- her feminism and slutwalk is why I love her so much. She may “talk about sex a lot” and speak in really frank terms, but what she is doing is important. I’ve worked criminal law and nothing will ever prepare you for the bias and straight up victim shaming of rape and sexual assault cases- if they even get to court in the first place. Anyone who is speaking in a sex positive way and empowering women and men gets a A+ from me- there isn’t enough of it IMO.
Like I said above, maybe Amber felt shamed, but that convo should have first happened with Julianne and not a national newspaper. It just really feels like an “Amber empowerment” arc that is not necessary.
@EmnEm In regards to Val’s possible Inferiority complex, I have always wondered if that was a possible downfall of such a competitive dancing environment like Latin Ballroom dancing. In training as hard as some of these ballroom dancers do and becoming the best, dancers often lose compassion and doubt themselves because you are literally so focused on proving they are better in every way from other dancers rather than uplifting and working alongside other people. It’s like an unhealthy addiction for some people I suppose. Now, that doesn’t mean every ballroom dancer is like that or that it excuses Val’s arrogant behavior. There are other things that influence that, like how him and his brother were raised, who they hang out with, things that happened to them etc. But I always felt like Val is like a 17 year old in a 30 year olds body and I’m glad I’m not the only one that feels that way.
As far as I can recall from the results show, Julianne called MAKS out for lack of content in that Salsa too by saying, “Isn’t it ironic because Maks is always the one talking about content?”
I personally feel this calling out was enough a reason for the Chmerskovskiy to be offended and propagate ‘uncomfortable’ conspiracy in Amber against Julianne. The show has seen how Julianne has always been vocal about being true and authentic and vulnerable and BE YOU. Body-shaming allegation holds no stand.
I am a bit disappointed in Amber too for bringing this out as a public statement. Was really liking her as an individual apart from their dances and really hoped for them to do better. But this was something very petty to even bring to notice if she felt that way, and naive if she was manipulated by Maks to feel that way!
I think where the male stripping is concerned, especially when it involves dances which are simply designed to “showcase the male meat market”, this is something that the C-Bros and their New York-based clientele seem to enjoy. Consequently, it could be argued that it is good for their brand.
But it is NOT something that will in any way enhance the brand of our Disney Derek.
The show aims to appeal to a quite heterogeneous audience. So from my perspective, I would say, fine, go there for that crowd once in while, but allow Derek (and any other dancer who does not want to go there) to opt out. It is not in Derek’s best interests — nor the show’s — for him to be a part of that.
They should celebrate the diversity.
Can anybody very briefly tell what is the exchange of tweets that happened and being discussed here? Sorry but I’m completely unaware of it..
#79 Robbie- Derek tweeted about how nice it was to be on a show without male strippers, then said sarcastically, “wait, do we still do that?”. He also tweeted that talent trumps trash and that he hopes that America knows the difference. Val tweeted something about Derek needing to get away from the male strippers then. Derek didn’t seem to be targeting a person, rather show concepts, but Val tweeted back to Derek as though he (Val) took it personally. At least, that’s my take on this. TPTB are continuing to get what they want- manipulating everyone for more drama. I just want to be able to watch good dancing!
Robbie, Julianne made a comment to a fellow judge that she wasn’t aware was going to be broadcast. But besides that – she was RIGHT. Maks was all up on his high horse about content in dances when he was a judge. And now he’s back at pro doing a non-salsa salsa.
The only reason Maks would get mad is for being shown to be a hypocrite. Something we’ve known for a long time. If he retaliates against Julianne in this manner (and it wasn’t just Amber projecting her discomfort on to Julianne, which is still my main theory), it says far more about him than it does Julianne.
He didn’t say “trash” he said “cheap thrills”…or cheap something.
Val takes everything personally because he’s been conditioned his whole life to believe the world revolves around him.
Amber’s fans are making their stand against body shaming…..by body shaming Julianne. No disconnect there at all.? As for Val, he needs a hobby. He should get one of those adult coloring books. Maks was asked yesterday at Amber’s event about the body shaming comment Julianne Ho made. That’s right, they called her Julianne Ho, and Maks never corrected them, he answered by saying they were rehearsing harder than ever.
@JM…adult coloring books LOL …they sell them at Barnes and Noble, Val!
I think TPTB really fudged up with allowing Maks to be a pro again after being a judge. THere should be a rule that it shouldn’t be allowed, for me at least.
I wonder what score and comments MAKS would give that salsa if it was done by Sasha (as her pro) and Amber??!!
I think Amber was probably defensive because of insecurities from society that make women who may not look like super models feel bad when they show off their bodies. So she did have a point in turns of stating that all bodies should be embraced. HOWEVER, It was a misunderstanding and it was a sound bite and Julianne didn’t mean that whatsoever. So Julianne shouldn’t be shamed. Amber does have a point in terms of body positivity.. But miss Julianne didn’t really body shame her.
Also, just to make a statement. The female pro dance IMO, while I think they are gorgeous and have wonderful bodies, there was no content……. Idc about the way they look, I just wanted more dancing. Is I said I didn’t like it or “felt uncomfortable”, “would that be body shaming?”
Maks, the judge, ripped Keo apart for not doing the proper dance elements, and he also ridiculed Antonio for a poor performance, yet he shook his head in disagreement when the tables were turned last week. I have no doubt that he’s egging Amber on with all her negative comments.
Julianne, just like Derek, promote nothing but love, kindness, and acceptance for all, and are totally against any and all types of bullying. When I heard Julianne’s comment, I did not for one second interpret it as body shaming Amber. Perhaps Julianne felt uncomfortable…and rightfully so…by the style and content of the dance they were doing, which was clearly not a salsa. Both Derek and Julianne’s comments have been deliberately “misinterpreted” this past week, clearly to stir up drama for the show, but their fine character speaks for itself. Love the Houghs! 🙂
I agree with you 100%, Psychee22 (#78)! Not only is Derek extraordinarily talented and in a category by himself, he is also a beautiful person with exemplary morals who does not have to lower his standards nor compromise his values. His fine character speaks for itself.
Laura #85, Amber was signed as a Ford model in NYC when she was a teen. She was not pencil thin, but proportional to her height and always had just a beautiful face. Don’t know how long she was on contract or how lucrative that was for her, but a lot of reports had her moving on to exotic dancing in Brooklyn with press about augmentation. I know a few waitresses who had breast enlargements done specifically to augment their tips. (with great success) Would probably help even more for a pole/exotic dancer/stripper. Wondering if the body shaming issues came up for her before or after she started exotic dancing?
Didnt someone say that Amber refers to herself as a SLUT in her branding? As in Slutwalk? Yet, she is upset that Julianne said she was uncomfortable in Maks choreographing a hiphop booty dance (that was supposed to be ballroom/Latin)?
I believe it was on ET that Amber’s costume is going to very barely there, and revealing with alot of black lace. It looks more slutty and raunchy than sexy, IMO. She has a beautiful face, but her body is just too fake.
This is all a publicity stunt for Amber to get her name in the paper since most of America had no idea who she was.
And then Derek was on the red carpet (video on E! or ET?) and had to defend Julianne’s statement with a smile and didn’t put Amber under the bus, saying that it was all a misunderstanding.
I wish the entertainment shows would show videos of his tremendous talents instead.
She’s controversial, but definitely knows how to market herself. What better advertisement a few days ahead of her slut week, at no cost.