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PureDWTS Discussion Post: Spencer Liff on the Choreography “Controversy”

I saw this the other day and kind of ignored it. Mainly because I don’t really consider it a “controversy” OR new information. But I’m bored – the dog days of summer and waiting for DWTS Fall Season news to break is getting old. Plus Vogue is on vaycay and me and Court have to try to fill the void. :-)

We’ve known that outside choreographers help for YEARS. Derek just mentioned it in a meet and greet the other day when asked about choreography. I don’t recall the context, but he said that he only used an outside choreographer for his and Shawn’s bhangra, but he knows that others do it more frequently….and he can always tell when outside help was used. He’s very observant, so that’s no surprise, plus he knows all of them very well. He apparently didn’t think it was a huge deal – and neither does Spencer Liff. Spencer makes some interesting points and seems to defend Witney (if she needs defending) pretty clearly. He says that outside “help” doesn’t have a right to the statue. What are you going to do? Count the steps that you contributed? What he seems to be saying – at the risk of putting words in his mouth – is that the contracted individual is responsible, is in charge and deserves the credit for that. What do you think?

Also, what I found interesting was that Spencer said he has “ghosted” on DWTS “many times” – this is intriguing, just cuz I’m nosey. :-) But the money comes out of the DWTS pros pocket when they get help, and it’s done away from the regular rehearsal spaces – and he says take your paycheck and keep your mouth shut. Very interesting conversation in the first five minutes of the video I’ve posted, below.

At the end of the day, Witney tried and gave full credit to her assistant and DWTS apparently tried as well. But the Academy has rules. Someone else mentioned in the video that the producers are limited to THREE nominees also, even if more producers were involved. Too bad. Those of you “helping” either need to stop helping without being contracted to the show, or suck it up and take the pay the DWTS pros give you.

Courtney: First off, a tip of the hat to Spencer – I’ve always found him to be one of the less “diva-ish” choreographers on SYTYCD, and while I may not have always been wowed by his choreography, I think he’s always done a good job of giving routines that are appropriate to the style he’s been assigned (unlike others, who seem to take “jazz” as an opportunity to do a contemporary routine).  I think he also did great job of explaining what’s what as it pertains to the nominations – it was very “Look here, guys – as someone who’s been nominated before, let me tell you that if you are ghosting on a routine, you are just that – a ghost.  Do not expect credit unless it was truly a collaborative effort – you don’t get to say ‘But I choreographed 20% of that!’ after the fact.  Your money is your compensation – take it and shut up.” Anyone else get the feeling he was a tad irked that some people were even trying to pull that stuff? 😉 Now, with that being said – I feel like him comparing his “assistants” on SYTYCD is maybe not a perfect analogy to what we think the situation has been at DWTS.  I’ve always gotten the impression that those “assisting” on SYTYCD were just helping the choreographer to show the routine to the couple they’re choreographing – they don’t actually contribute much, creativity-wise.  They’re just a body.  The impression I get from DWTS is that it’s one pro actively contributing to another pro’s work – giving advice on choreography.  But, I do agree with Spencer – it gets to be really tricky determining how much credit you give for a partial contribution by another pro. I look at a true collaboration as something akin to Derek & Chelsie’s acoustic paso back in season 10 – they agreed to work together and both were involved every step of the way, therefore a co-nomination was appropriate; but I get the feeling that the dances in question (presumably Witney’s, though I see the female pros are still dancing around naming names) were more like Witney getting somewhat into choreographing something and saying “Crap, I’ve hit a wall with this part.  Hey Sharna (or whoever), can you help me work through this part right here?” And then Sharna (or whoever) contributing something to a portion of the dance, and then walking away.  It wasn’t as if Pro A and Pro B started off choreographing from the beginning together; the concept of the dance was probably Witney’s idea, and the bulk of the spacing/set design/costume design/choreography was also hers. But anywho – the degree of entitlement being what it is amongst the pros at DWTS these days (as well as the degree of butthurt-ness), can’t say I’m surprised that some of the pros are basically scoffing at what has been standard operating procedure at the Academy for many years and feeling as though they are due some sort of credit.  Cause everybody is a winner and a special little snowflake that deserves an MBT, and Emmy nomination, and whatever his/her little heart desires – because FAIRNESS, guys. But yes, please do continue to throw shade at other pros for something that was likely out of their control, anyway – and then get indignant when fans try to guess just who you’re passive-aggressively tweeting about.  Such a good look :-) Funny how people think WE start “fan wars”…the pros are doing a fine job of it themselves… Read more..

July 31, 2015 I Written By

I'm a nerd and proud of it. Two degrees in geology also means I love BEER. :-) I'm also a Derek lover - proud of that too. So don't scream at those of us on this site and call us a bunch of "biased Derek-lovers" - it's just ME. :-) It may sound like I hate DWTS at times, but really, I'm just a snarky nitpicker from way back. And I'm cynical and jaded too. But I do love DWTS. :-)

New Photos Of Dancing With The Stars Peta Murgatroyd And Maksim Chmerkovskiy In Beverly Hills

Maks Chmerkovskiy and Peta Murgatroyd were seen out and about in Beverly Hills, California yesterday. You can view a bunch of photos of them at the Daily Mail. Zimbio has some photos too including the one below.

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July 29, 2015 I Written By

I'm a fashion and music fan....and I have always loved dancing too of any kind. Dancing With The Stars seems to have this way of bringing all of those things together. One of my favorite dancing quotes at the moment: "No matter what, nobody can take away the dance you've already had...." ~Gleb Savchenko . For fun music and dance mixes, visit WilUnleashed Soundcloud. To view my photography site, see Lisa Kay Photography.

Sharna Burgess Helps Kick Off 2015 Special Olympics World Games, Terrell Owens To Dance In DWTS Season 21?

It’s funny how things lead to another sometimes. This past Saturday night at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum in Los Angeles, Dancing With The Stars Sharna Burgess helped to kick off the 2015 Special Olympics World Games. You can read about it at Just Jared Jr and also see a cute pic of her. She also posted the instagram below of her and Terrell Owens on the Red Carpet. More after the photo…

Speaking of Terrell Owens….he said he’d love to do Dancing With The Stars this past February. From Dish Nation….

It’s that time of year again — a new cast was announced today for Season 20 of Dancing With The Stars, and although he won’t be competing this year, former NFL wide receiver Terrell Owens exclusively told Dish Nation he’d love to be on the show.

“It’s a possibility. I don’t have two left feet,” he hinted while chatting on the red carpet at the Gold Meets Golden event in Hollywood recently.

“I think I could do okay for that. I have a few dance moves.”

Owens, 41, wouldn’t be the first footballer to compete on the show, and he says he knows a lot of the dancing pros.

Funny too as Court mentioned Terrell in this casting rumor post in Season 13 and said she wouldn’t be surprised if his name popped up to dance. And it’s true Terrell knows a lof of the pros as Heidi posted a picture with Terrell, Derek Hough, and Maria Menounos at a Beach Party in this previous post.

So, what do you think? Would you like the idea of Terrell Owens dancing on Dancing With The Stars? I say YES to any and all football players!

July 27, 2015 I Written By

I'm a fashion and music fan....and I have always loved dancing too of any kind. Dancing With The Stars seems to have this way of bringing all of those things together. One of my favorite dancing quotes at the moment: "No matter what, nobody can take away the dance you've already had...." ~Gleb Savchenko . For fun music and dance mixes, visit WilUnleashed Soundcloud. To view my photography site, see Lisa Kay Photography.

DWTS Allison Holker To Premiere New Dance Costume Line

In more news on dancer Allison Holker. She’s going to be premiering a new dance costume line soon. Be watching TenthHouseDance.com to view it soon.

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I'm a fashion and music fan....and I have always loved dancing too of any kind. Dancing With The Stars seems to have this way of bringing all of those things together. One of my favorite dancing quotes at the moment: "No matter what, nobody can take away the dance you've already had...." ~Gleb Savchenko . For fun music and dance mixes, visit WilUnleashed Soundcloud. To view my photography site, see Lisa Kay Photography.

Pure Dancing With The Stars Allison Holker Helping To Host Good Things Utah

Dancing With The Stars pro Allison Holker is helping to host Good Things Utah today and tomorrow. Below she talks with the panel about beauty secrets. To watch more with Allison if interested, be following Good Things Utah.

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I'm a fashion and music fan....and I have always loved dancing too of any kind. Dancing With The Stars seems to have this way of bringing all of those things together. One of my favorite dancing quotes at the moment: "No matter what, nobody can take away the dance you've already had...." ~Gleb Savchenko . For fun music and dance mixes, visit WilUnleashed Soundcloud. To view my photography site, see Lisa Kay Photography.

Dancing With The Stars Julianne Hough’s New LifeStyle Blog About What She Can Give To The World

Julianne Hough talked with People about her new blog. It’s not about her dreams and entertainment. It’s about what she can give to the world. Below is more…

“Being in the world of entertainment, as selfish as it sounds, is about me and my dreams,” Hough tells PEOPLE. “But my blog is not so much about what I can take from the world but it’s about what I can give to the world. I want you guys to know my personal stuff and what little things and tricks I like.”

Those tricks span from her favorite recipes: “My stuffed peppers are so easy to make, super healthy but also super filling, which is awesome,” says the star, who recently partnered with Babybel cheese for their Big Dreamers Contest. To beauty tips: “My readers really like when I do braids and hair tutorials,” she says. “I have to do more of those.”

Healthy eating and fitness is also naturally a big topic of conversation for Hough, who spends 2 hours a day dancing for the tour with brother Derek Hough and then still finds time to get a workout in.

You can read the article in full at People. To follw Julianne on her blogging adventures, see this link.

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I'm a fashion and music fan....and I have always loved dancing too of any kind. Dancing With The Stars seems to have this way of bringing all of those things together. One of my favorite dancing quotes at the moment: "No matter what, nobody can take away the dance you've already had...." ~Gleb Savchenko . For fun music and dance mixes, visit WilUnleashed Soundcloud. To view my photography site, see Lisa Kay Photography.

Olympic Skating Medalist Nancy Kerrigan Visits Ballroom With A Twist At The North Shore Theatre- HQ Photos

It must have been so cool to have Olympic Skating Medalist Nancy Kerrigan attend Ballroom With A Twist and visit with the cast. You can view some high quality shots below courtesy of Producer Scott Stander (click on them to see them in their full size). Thanks Scott! Beautiful!! I wish Nancy would do Dancing With The Stars. Have you seen Ballroom With A Twist yet? If not, be sure you do. The show is going to Texas and New York state next. For tickets, see this link.

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Ballroom With A Twist July 26, 2015

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I'm a fashion and music fan....and I have always loved dancing too of any kind. Dancing With The Stars seems to have this way of bringing all of those things together. One of my favorite dancing quotes at the moment: "No matter what, nobody can take away the dance you've already had...." ~Gleb Savchenko . For fun music and dance mixes, visit WilUnleashed Soundcloud. To view my photography site, see Lisa Kay Photography.

Dancing With The Stars Live Tour TV Report From The Springfield, MO Show And More

KSPR has a special report on the Dancing With The Stars Live Tour from last night. You can read a little below, but, see the link for more including a fun video!!

Fans of the hit ABC show, Dancing with the Stars got up close and personal with some of the show’s biggest names at Hammons Hall Sunday.

The Dancing with the Stars Live national tour hit Springfield.

Dozens of fans got to take pictures during a meet and greet with some of the dancers and headliner, reality star, Melissa Rycoft.

It was a special time, not only for the fans.

Dancer, Val Chmerkovskiy said, “I don’t take it for granted that people are making an effort to come out and spend time watching us do what we love.”

Reality star, Melissa Rycoft said, “Ballroom was very humbling to learn you know. I came in going, I can count, surely, this won’t be that difficult. It’s like trying to learn a new language every week. It’s really difficult.”

And I’m loving these instagrams. See why below…. Read more..

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I'm a fashion and music fan....and I have always loved dancing too of any kind. Dancing With The Stars seems to have this way of bringing all of those things together. One of my favorite dancing quotes at the moment: "No matter what, nobody can take away the dance you've already had...." ~Gleb Savchenko . For fun music and dance mixes, visit WilUnleashed Soundcloud. To view my photography site, see Lisa Kay Photography.

Millennium Dance Championship Coverage With Dance Pros Jonathan Roberts And Karina Smirnoff – Video

Recently former Dancing With The Stars pros Jonathan Roberts and Karina Smirnoff helped to commentate the Millennium Dance Championships from Tampa, Florida. If interested in watching, see this link. Karina is so fun, cute, and beautiful as always. It’s good to see Jonathan again too. Thahnkis to @Jimmbboe for the heads up!

July 26, 2015 I Written By

I'm a fashion and music fan....and I have always loved dancing too of any kind. Dancing With The Stars seems to have this way of bringing all of those things together. One of my favorite dancing quotes at the moment: "No matter what, nobody can take away the dance you've already had...." ~Gleb Savchenko . For fun music and dance mixes, visit WilUnleashed Soundcloud. To view my photography site, see Lisa Kay Photography.

Ballroom With A Twist Tristan MacManus, Chris Soules, Lacey Schwimmer, Chelsie Hightower, Dmitry Chaplin At The North Shore – Photos, Videos

Ballroom With A Twist Boston by Andrea

As you might know from a previous post, Andrea saw Ballroom With A Twist last night at the North Shore Music Theatre in Boston. She loved the show and said Chris Soules was a “natural” and “charming” (and at the Meet & Greet too). She sent us a bunch of photos and videos from the show of Chelsie Hightower, Chris Soules, Dmitry Chaplin, Lacey Schwimmer, and Tristan MacManus which you can view below. We can’t thank her enough. If you haven’t got tickets yet to see this fun show, see this link.

Click the links to see the videos… Read more..

July 24, 2015 I Written By

I'm a fashion and music fan....and I have always loved dancing too of any kind. Dancing With The Stars seems to have this way of bringing all of those things together. One of my favorite dancing quotes at the moment: "No matter what, nobody can take away the dance you've already had...." ~Gleb Savchenko . For fun music and dance mixes, visit WilUnleashed Soundcloud. To view my photography site, see Lisa Kay Photography.