Hey Dancettes, ready for the new Afterbuzz TV show? This time Jenna Johnson and Artem Chigvintsev join Kristyn Burtt and the crew to review Dancing With The Stars Season 18 Week 4. Lot’s of diverse discussion this time. You won’t want to miss what they say on Maks, Danica, and Julianne! Part of them thought Julianne was rude with her judging and part of them didn’t. Suri thought Maks handled it well (he did?). I especially loved their talk on the Macy’s Stars Of Dance. It was cool getting Artem’s perspective on Derek and his choreography being he was part of the dance. Note too that the next Macy’s Stars Of Dance takes place in two weeks. Lots more below. Another great show! I so look forward to these every week.
Tonight’s episode of Sesame Street was brought to you by the phrases “these are the couples you chose!”, “keep it all in the family”, and “incestual”. I know I can’t be the only one that thought they were trying to drive the point home just a bit too hard that the couples we saw last night were the ones that we voted for – defensive much? Had they actually given Meryl to Derek (as the voters had), it would have created an entire cascade of partner changes that I think would have created an entirely different outcome last night. But that’s neither here nor there – I guess I’m just sort of over the entire partner switch at this point. It’s over and done with, and it’s hard to dwell on what a turd the whole thing was when we’ve got Disney Week next week
I do feel the need to touch on the phrase “keep it all in the family!” though – on the surface, it seems innocuous enough, but I feel like it’s yet another barrier the Chmerkovskiy brothers (and Tony, to a lesser degree) put up between themselves and the other pros on the show. I know they seem to have a sort of “us against the world” mentality, but more often than not, they themselves are the ones creating that environment. “Keep it all in the family” says to me “I don’t trust the other pros. I refuse to associate with the other pros. I am better than the other pros. Don’t let the other pros near my partner…mine, mine, MINE!” It implies that the only family that matters is theirs – and the relationships with the other pros that they’ve cultivated over the years are worthless. The Chmerkovskiys are a family, but so is DWTS – when the cards are down, the pros do look out for each other. I guess the reason I’m bringing it up is because I was rather surprised to hear Meryl repeat it in her package – I think it was probably just out of politeness to Val & Maks, but in the spirit of the switch (which so many of the other pros embraced with open arms – including Tony), it just seemed almost like self-segregation.
I’m left feeling rather puzzled by the judges’ comments & scoring last night – there were certain couples that got raked across the coals that I didn’t think were that bad (Candace & Tony, Charlie & Peta), couples that got treated with kid gloves (and this is probably gonna get me in trouble, but Amy & Mark), and couples that just did not really register at all with the judges (Danica & Maks, Cody & Sharna). And apparently there was fallout backstage last night after the show – a source says that Peta was in tears and was being consoled by Charlie & Sharna, and Mark was allegedly overheard saying that he thinks he’s “as good as done” next week thanks to Tony (which I don’t agree with…at least not the reasoning). Tough day at the office for those two
On the upside, we got a pretty cute opening number (that was perhaps a little heavy on the “switch” theme, but whatever), and the Macy’s Stars of Dance segment returned triumphantly with a pretty cool flamenco-infused number by Derek, Artem, Sasha, Henry, Jon Platero, & the beast that is Kathryn McCormick. I smell some potential Emmy fodder, if the Stars of Dance segments in the coming weeks measure up to the one we saw last night! Julianne also returned as a judge, to both cheers and jeers – and WTF was up with her eyebrows??? Somebody get Anastasia Soare on the phone, because somebody is using the wrong color pencil on Miss Hough…
Bear with me as I try not to repeat too much of the stuff I said in the live discussion post last night – guess I should have held back a bit for my power rankings I went ahead and put the original pro partner names in parentheses here, as they will be the ones potentially at-risk to be eliminated next week. Read more..
And below is a Good Morning America recap of Dancing With The Stars last night. There is also a backstage interview with Maks Chmerkovskiy complaining about Julianne Hough’s judging. She comments too. (Do I dare comment on that? What does he mean Julianne is too young to judge him? I don’t think so. She’s just as decorated as a pro as he is! )
ETA: Some of the cast and pros commented on the Julianne and Maks thing too as well as Maks himself. Here is a take, but be sure to see Today for more.
Ultimately, the exchange made for good TV.
“It doesn’t matter,” Chmerkovskiy said of Hough’s remarks. “It’s not about me. People want to be entertained when they tune in.”
The Hough/Chmerkovskiy post-dance exchange was reminiscent of other interactions he’d had with judges in past seasons — there’s a reason he’s often referred to as the bad boy of the ballroom — and that’s a place Chmerkovskiy would prefer not to visit.
“We were brought back to where things were,” he noted. “I don’t like that. Just like (I don’t like) the switch-up or Disney Week or Outer Space Week. But it’s not my call. I just have to enjoy it. We’re all in the same boat together.”
Below is Julianne with On The Red Carpet….
What another great night of dancing! I really liked the opening number and Derek Hough and the Macy’s Stars Of Dance performance. HOT! Also, all the couples did much better than I thought they would with the Switch Up dances too. Though, please….no more Switch Up dances in the future as I think the cast had enough pressure as it is. Why put that kind of pressure on them…and US? What do you think? Vote in our new Poll and then see some media afterwards.
So, for new media and interviews after the show, how about if we start with ABC7 with George Pennacchio!! Also, On The Red Carpet has one interview posted with Meryl and Val (seen below). Val is happy with last night and the way it went down with an exception that he wasn’t happy with the judges scores and comments for Maks and Charlie. He’s also not looking forward to Disney week while Meryl feels the opposite…
And for those needing a repeat of the scores….
NeNe Leakes & Derek Hough: 32
Charlie White & Peta Murgatroyd: 33
Meryl Davis & Val Chmerkovskiy: 39
James Maslow & Cheryl Burke: 35
Amy Purdy & Mark Ballas: 34
Drew Carey & Witney Carson: 33
Cody Simpson & Sharna Burgess: 31
Candace Cameron Bure & Tony Dovolani: 28
Danica McKellar & Maksim Chmerkovskiy: 32
Stay tuned. More coming!!
ETA: Below is some after dark coverage with PopTVDotCom…
ETA2: The On The Red Carpet Interviews are now up! Be sure to see them here. Lots of Disney talk! ADDING: Drew says he has the Quickstep. Cody says he is doing something to “Lion King”(Court knows more. Stay tuned). Sharna says she and Charlie have the Jazz. Candace hints that she is doing to something to “Little Mermaid”. Tony is going to be a “dog”. Read more..
Heidi is otherwise occupied for the time being…so for now, you get me (Court). Who’s ready to see this partner switch?
Cute opening number…maybe a little repetitive on the whole “switch” theme. That song takes me back to sorority recruitment 2005. Damn, Julianne’s hair is SHORT.
Candace & Tony actually seem like a good match, personality-wise. I think that dance suited them both well, and she actually handled it better than the last two dances we’ve seen from her.
Kinda surprised at Candace’s score. Thought she was a little low-balled. Wonder if this is gonna be one of those nights with lots of over & underscoring…
Wow. James & Cheryl must’ve found some chemistry after all – cause that was hot, both technically & from a showmanship perspective. He really may be a “dark horse” (pun intended )
Unrelated: isn’t that Oksana’s bf that was standing up by Cheryl’s throne? Jonathan Platero?
Erin, your voice makes me want to punch babies. Please stop with this inane showmance talk.
Drew & Witney were actually really cute – I think having a younger partner brought out the more playful side of Drew.
Hmmmm…beginning to wonder if they’ve decided that Candace is expendable, the way they’re scoring everyone else…
Pretty cool Stars of Dance performance from Derek & Co. Kathryn McCormick is a beast – probably only one of two female contemporary dancers that could have kept up with the ballroom boys…the other being Allison Holker.
Hmmm…Danica & Maks were interacting exactly the way we said they would: Maks saying “just do it” and Danica asking super-detailed questions. It was cute, but it seemed like an awful lot of time-wasting…and WTF was up with the wedge sneakers???
Charlie & Peta were nice to watch – if not a bit incestuous-looking, with their twinnie-looking hair. Thought I saw a lift, though…will Carrie Ann call them out?
Really glad Amy is going back to Derek next week – Mark tried, but I think Derek just knows better how to utilize Amy’s skills. On the upside – her ass looked hot. I’m envious
Kinda left with mixed feelings about Cody & Sharna’s foxtrot – I think she did a good job of choreographing to his strengths, but his frame is still wonky and I feel like he doesn’t get very invested unless he can make the dance very “Cody”. Also, Cody & Sharna aren’t the first Aussies to dance together on DWTS – that would be Ingo & Kym on season 16.
Now that may not have been the most difficult jazz routine, but it was PERFECT for NeNe and I thought going the Afro-jazz route was pretty clever. Was nice to see her let loose completely!
Meryl nailed that. ‘Nuff said.
TV Guide intereviewed Erin Andrews about the rumors that the producers of Dancing With The Stars are thinking of replacing her. She immediately called producers and asked them about it. Below is what she tells TV Guide…
“I’ve got to be honest. … It kind of got me worried and scared,” Andrews told TVGuide.com last week, noting that she immediately called producers to do damage control. “I just went back and forth with the producers like, ‘Are we good here? Please tell me what I need to work on. Please tell me what I need to do. ‘And they’re like, ‘We couldn’t be happier.’”
And below are her thoughts about the Switch Up Dance, which celebs she’s the most impressed with so far, and the stiff competition….
Next week is the switch-up. As a former competitor, how would you have felt about switching partners?
Andrews: Oh, I wouldn’t have liked it, but I like that the show’s doing it. I think every little twist and turn they can add to the show and spice it up — it’s been on for 18 seasons, so you’ve got to do something to keep it new and fresh. But I wouldn’t have liked it. You get in such a comfort zone with your pro dancer, and you know they know your weaknesses and your strengths. Somebody like Amy, who has been obviously going through so much with Derek [Hough], and Derek really seems to understand her. Not that the other pro dancers wouldn’t, but it gets you out of your comfort zone. You’re already out of your comfort zone doing ballroom dancing in front of millions of people on prime-time television, so it just adds one more element of like, oh God, what am I doing here?
Which celebs have you been most impressed with this season?
Andrews: Well, I think right off the bat most impressed and most surprised would be Amy. I don’t think any of us really knew what to expect. And to say that we’ve all been moved to tears pretty much every week is an understatement. … You know, she was already a very inspiring person, but [Derek's] just kind of peeling off these layers for her and showing her, and showing all of us, what is possible, and that’s so special. And I just get choked up every single time I think about it, because I’m so proud of her and I don’t even really know her very well. I’m so thankful somebody like her is showing really all her strengths. You would think they would be weaknesses, and they’re not. Danica [McKellar] has been unbelievable. She’s really talented. And I think Candace [Cameron Bure] too. A lot has to be said about somebody who hasn’t taken a dance class before. Mark is a very talented and special choreographer, and he’s really playing to her strengths and I think that’s very cool to see as well. [Charlie White's] personality is really starting to come out. I saw it especially last week. He’s so sweet. … And Meryl [Davis], I think she’s like a Disney princess. She’s just so graceful and so gorgeous, and I’m so glad she was paired with Maksim [Chmerkovskiy] for so many reasons. I’ve really enjoyed both of them.
It seems like the competition is especially stiff this season.
Andrews: My mom said that the other night. My mom watches the show, she loves the show. … I think with my year, you could kind of see that Nicole Scherzinger, was going to blow everybody out of the water. But this year, the competition [is fierce], and the stories behind it — and that’s exactly what the show wanted and needed. It’s been a really fun journey.
To read more, see TV Guide. An interesting read before show time!
Last week, Sports Bovada didn’t post their new odds for Dancing With The Stars, so that’s why you didn’t see us post on them. However, they have posted a new set of odds for Dancing With The Stars Week 4! Note how tight they are to previous seasons at this time which is a credit to this cast of dancers. Also, note how Amy Purdy moved up to second place ahead of Charlie White!! After she and Derek’s dance this past week, it’s no wonder…
Meryl Davis 7/4
Amy Purdy 5/2
Charlie White 3/1
James Maslow 10/1
Danica McKellar 10/1
Candace Cameron Bure 15/1
Cody Simpson 20/1
NeNe Leakes 25/1
Drew Carey 33/1
Odds two weeks ago:
Charlie White 5/2
Meryl Davis 5/2
Amy Purdy 4/1
Candace Cameron Bure 11/2
Danica McKellar 15/2
James Maslow 10/1
Cody Simpson 20/1
Drew Carey 25/1
NeNe Leakes 25/1
Sean Avery 33/1
Billy Dee Williams 100/1
Diana Nyad 100/1
So, what do you think? Do the odds makers have it right this week? I think they do with an exception to Nene, Drew, and Cody. I think Nene should be in last place. I think Candace should be lowered to next to last with Drew and Cody in the middle of the pack. Other than that, they have it about right.
Court and Heidi, what do you think?
Courtney: *shrug* Do the odds really even matter anymore, with all of the shady business going on behind the scenes? I feel like I’m betting on a fixed boxing match. I guess I understand why Meryl is at the top – seems like she’s being set up as the golden girl now, after a few weeks of Charlie actually being the golden boy. Do I think she’ll actually win? Hell no. Mark my words, the “setting up” will backfire. Glad to see Amy moving up; looks like everyone else is kind of staying the same. I would put NeNe before Drew, though – I doubt the Real Housewives fanbase is going to carry her a whole lot further, past switch week.
Heidi: I’m kinda with Courtney. And I think Charlie will end up winning in the end. I think we’re going to get to some dances that Amy may struggle with and I think Meryl will come off too much like a sure thing and it will backfire. People do like an underdog and they’re the ones putting Charlie there – really, he talks in his package about how it’s nice to be at the top of the leaderboard and then he’s underscored to make sure he’s lower than Meryl? That’s not at all transparent!! If they don’t hose Meryl but good a couple times, or at least get real with Maks on not upping the choreo, I think she’ll lose. They had her 3 points ahead of the next couples – bad idea. I do agree that Drew will last longer than NeNe – he just has a larger fanbase and unless they start overscoring her and underscoring him, I think he outlasts her. I do wonder if we’re going to see a “shocking” elimination of either Candice or Danica – Candace because she’s not dancing that well and is kind of in the background (note they didn’t even really show her Full House cast in the audience) or Danica because Maks is back and any cross over voting Val might have benefited from in the past is going all to Maks to help him win. And if not….well, that supports my Meryl isn’t going to win wager. If not one of the women, possibly either Cody or James and I’m leaning toward Cody right now because James is making a strong showing.
Some Official Dancing With The Stars teasers and definitely worth a watch. Most of you might have seen the first one. Scroll below for updates!
ETA: And another promo…
So, as I had predicted but had hoped to be wrong, the producers did what ever they wanted in terms of the pairings. They will find some way to explain it away, but there is video evidence that you could use twitter to vote (at the 4:14 mark) – so don’t buy that excuse. These are the pairings THEY wanted to see, so they made it happen. Also don’t buy the scheduling excuse – there is one change they could have made to not upset one of their “stars” but chose not to do it. But you know what? I’m pretty sure that it will turn out to be very interesting. And the potentially upset “star” in question ain’t so upset. Let me just say this:
Tony IS already upset.
Karma is a bitch and this may not be the trainwreck they hoped for. Anyway, Courtney and I have lots of other little details and we’re hoping to find out more. For now, here are your new pairings (from what we understand, anyway) and a couple dances.
ETA: So, Danica and Maks are NOT getting along. Apparently, the old Maks (“Just do it”) is back.
ETA2: Apparently, Nene is surprised. In a good way. And Courtney tells me that there are no duplicate dances this week. Every couple has a different dance.
The number of question marks is directly proportional to how sure we are that someone has a given dance. Or is that directly DISproportional?? I’m tired. Anyway, the more question marks it has, the less sure we are that that’s the dance they have. Three ??? means we arrived at them by process of elimination. Also adding – Tony is apparently not mad at Derek but at the producers for the dance given to Derek and Nene.
ETA4: The rumba for Charlie appears to be confirmed.
ETA5: Apparently Meryl & Val ain’t getting along great, either – he seems a bit starstruck by her, but he also seems to have zero patience with her. Their routine is really, really fast and poor Meryl can’t seem to do anything right for him.
Charlie and Peta are getting along great and had their dance choreographed by Thursday so they’ve had lots of time to polish it.
According to our source, these are the dances. The couples that are doing well are Derek/Nene, Tony/Candace, Charlie/Peta and Drew/Witney. The couples that are struggling are Meryl/Val, Danica/Maks, Cody/Sharna and Amy/Mark. James/Cheryl are apparently neither good nor bad. Whether we see any of this will be very interesting. A bunch of people who change the voting rules when it’s time to count the votes isn’t above changing the narrative in the editing room, are they?? I expect we’ll see the opposite of what we’ve heard when it comes to Meryl and Charlie – and possibly Nene, mainly because they paired NeNe and Derek to see problems. Question is – did those couples doing well give them ANYTHING to use?? And did those couples doing poorly give them anything to make it look positive? I guess we find out tomorrow.
Charlie and Peta – Rumba
Danica and Maks – Jive (Music: “Love Me Right!” by The Swag Geeks & Brook Penning )
James and Cheryl – Tango (Music: “Dark Horse” by Katy Perry )
Drew and Witney – Cha Cha
Amy and Mark – Salsa
Candace and Tony – Quickstep (Music: “Ballroom Blitz” by Sweet )
Meryl and Val – Argentine Tango (Music: “Too Close” by Alex Clare
Cody and Sharna – Foxtrot
NeNe And Derek – Jazz (Music: “Grown Woman” By Beyonce