DWTS 11, Week 4 – Dancing by the Numbers
Acoustic in the Round, eh? Yeah, not totally impressed by that. The stage was cool, in my opinion. I don’t give a rat’s ass if it limits the couples – challenge is good and I think that the upper tier celebs and their pros (again, my opinion) worked with that challenge just fine. The “acoustic” idea was just silly as it was executed. I’ve never seen a nearly full orchestra referred to as “acoustic” before. But what really bugs me is Tom saying that next week is “TV Week” followed by “Rock Night”. What the hell people? Why do you have to have a theme every week now?? Why not just let the couples dance? How’s that for a novel idea??
Then again, I guess when you realize that a season with no real ringers results in generally poor dancing – or at least, unexciting dancing – you best have a gimmick of some sort. Kinda like the pros who realized they really need to do something to make a statement or distract from a poor performance. Can’t say I blame them, really. At some point they have to realize they aren’t going to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. The middle of the packer’s failed to impress – really getting quite tired of Kyle and his antics. It wears a person out.
Our “sow’s ear” for the night had to be the Situation (sorry Courtney) and to a lesser extent Bristol and Florence. And it’s really a shame that the person I like most out of the three got the lowest score. The question is, can he overcome that low score with votes? It comes down, essentially, to a battle between the right wing, the Jersey Shore Fans and the Brady Bunch lovers.
The Percentages of Judges Scores Awarded:
The Judges Scores and Percentages
Place | Celebrity | Score | Percentage |
1. | Jennifer | 56 | 15.64 |
2. | Brandy | 48 | 13.41 |
3. | Audrina | 46 | 12.85 |
4. | Kyle | 40 | 11.17 |
5. | Rick | 39 | 10.89 |
6. | Florence | 35 | 9.78 |
7. | Kurt | 34 | 9.5 |
8. | Bristol | 32 | 8.94 |
9. | The Sitch | 28 | 7.82 |
It’s a very safe bet to call Jennifer, Brandy and Audrina safe for tonight. Why some of you are arguing over second place is beyond me – with these kinds of number, it simply shouldn’t matter. Two points out of sixty is NOTHING. Mathematically speaking, anyway. I thought all three women did a great job, although I do agree with the judges comments. I thought Audrina looked pretty vacant tonight. Brandy was much improved although there is still something funky going on there that I can’t put my finger on. Maks was HILARIOUS in their package…and I’ll save the rest of my comments for the Cheesecake. 🙂
Kyle and Rick, while a LONG way out of 3rd place with 40 and 39, respectively, are also a pretty safe distance from the bottom of the pack. I’m going to bet they are safe. Just for fun, I will tell you that Kyle would have to get 44,700 more votes per million votes cast than Jennifer to find himself in first place overall.
That leads us to this week’s basement dwellers: Kurt, Florence, Bristol and The Sitch. Who’s going to go home? This is a much tougher call this week, despite the double scoring. I think it’s pretty easy to call Kurt safe because ALL of the following would have to happen, for him to go home:
Sitch gets 56,000 more votes than Kurt per 1 million votes cast;
Bristol gets 5,600 more votes than Kurt per 1 million votes cast; and
Kurt DOESN’T get 2,800 more votes than Flo per 1 million votes cast.
I honestly don’t see all three of those thing happening. Watch Bergeron’s twitter – if he starts talking “shocking elimination” this would likely be the one.
Okay, that leaves us with Florence, Bristol and The Situation. The Sitch, as the lowest scored person, only needs to beat one person in votes and here it is in a nutshell:
Sitch needs 11,200 more votes than Bristol per 1 million votes cast to be safe.
Do you think he can do it?? That’s a lot of votes. How popular is this guy? Now, just beating Bristol’s number doesn’t mean she’s the one who goes home. They could both get more votes than Florence. For Florence to go home instead of either the Sitch or Bristol, ALL of the following would have to happen:
Sitch gets 19,600 more votes than Florence per 1 million votes cast;
Bristol gets 8,400 more votes than Florence per 1 million votes cast; AND
Kurt gets 2,800 more votes than Flo per 1 million votes cast.
I think that last one is a given, but I included it anyway. Again, you see why I have trouble picking someone to go home tonight. I just don’t think it’s an open and shut case. Basically, if the Sitch doesn’t pick up 11,200 more votes per million than Bristol he’s gone, if he does and all other things remain the same, Bristol is gone.
Okay – going out on a limb to make a call. I’m going to call Florence safe, along with Kurt. Then I’m going to bet that the Sitch doesn’t pull in the votes he need to overtake anyone. The Sitch goes home. This is NOT what I want – I would be fine with either Florence or Bristol going home, but I think those ladies have another week in them. Obviously, one of them has TWO weeks – but we’ll cross that bridge when we come to it. 🙂
Heidi, I LOVE THIS! I, too find it difficult to guess who will be in “the bottom two” and even more who will go. For some reason, I see Flo, Bristol & Sitch safe (maybe “in jeapordy”). I don’t think the top 3 will go, but something tells me something bizzare will happen. Kurt might be at risk, but it seems like he has a pretty strong fanbase. So, who knows. At this point, it’s more likely, to me, that Sitch is out. I think if Bristol gets another chance, next week is her make it or break it week. Who knows?
I’m hoping that the Situation doesn’t go for entertainment sake. I’ve had enough of Bristol. She can go home and continue to learn how to dance on her own spare time.
Heidi, I love this post. I agree it is difficult to predict who will be eliminated tonight and its only going to get tougher as the weeks go. I don’t think the top 3 will be in any jeopardy either. My guess was either Situation, Bristol and Flo in the bottom tonight with Situation leaving. I know he is trying so hard, but somehow I think Bristol is pulling in more votes than him. I guess will see tonight.
Heidi, as always – A MAY ZING 🙂
My 2 cents: Both Jennifer/Derek & Brandy/Maks smoked in their respective dances, deserving of the high scores they got (still can’t warm up to Brandy but credit where credit’s due). Kyle is cute and all, but kudos to Lacey on her choreo for this guy. I’m waiting on Audrino to really sizzle – she’s a sweet girl, I’m sure, but she needs a little fire in her belly; not sure Tony is the guy to coax that out of her. Kurt did better than his scores indicate – I agree with whoever said he had that “Ty” quality about him. Rick/Cheryl’s performance was flat – I think the small stage intimidated him. I was hoping that The Sitch would rock this dance, and in that regard I was disappointed but still his scores were harsh. By the time we get to this portion of the contest, it’s usually the middle of the pack that are in greatest jeopardy, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed that The Sitch will make it through. That leaves Florence & Bristol. I thought the antics with Cloris were all Cloris, but I think I may have been mistaken. I think they’d be much better off leaving the schtick out of their routines. I am so rooting for Bristol because she seems to be such a shy girl, truly without a doubt out of her comfort zone – and she is picking up the technique very well. I think her biggest problem is Mark – he doesn’t know how to adjust his teaching style to the student at hand. Yes, obviously, her performance skills are lacking – but I don’t see him doing anything at all to help her improve that. Even from my far removed perspective, telling her she’s performing in front of 20 million people, so just bring it sounds about as idiotic as Nancy Reagan’s Just Say No. I found Derek’s advice to Jennifer (know you are amazing, and dance like you know that … paraphrasing of course) spot on – I hope Bristol saw that clip as well 😉
So I guess I’m saying, even though I don’t want anyone to go home to night – forced to make a decision, I’d have to say Florence (in truth, I’m saying I’ve seen enough of Corky, but Florence is part of that package, sadly 🙁
I agree with your post, Heidi. I hate to think of the Sitch going home but I don’t see how he can overcome those scores.
I’m guessing that Florence will be the one to leave. She’s older, doesn’t have the voting fan base that the others have…even though she actually can dance a tad better than Bristol or the Sitch.
Kurt might well be a wonderful person but he is just a stiff dancer..there just isn’t fluidity there at all.
As much as I hate to admit it…I do find the Sitch interesting. I really thought he would be a massive jerk but he doesn’t seem to be that way at all. He can’t dance but I’d like to see him around for another week or so.
Bristol….I just don’t know about her at all. She is just so uptight about everything, I don’t think she will be able to loosen up and get the hang of dancing. Kinda makes me wonder how she ever got pregnant.
OMG I LOVE THIS POST! Good job Heidi!! Oh but how your numbers are scarying me. Please don’t let it be The Sitch going home. Bristol and Pistol needs to go. *cries* I cna’t take it anymore. She was just plain awful last night as she has been every single week. I cringed so bad last night watching her, it was downright painful.
And I don’t know why they have to go with these “theme” nights either?! American Idol does the same thing. Please, just let them pick their dance, song, etc and let them perform already.
Great great post and thoughts afterwards. I love this!
“Bristol….I just don’t know about her at all. She is just so uptight about everything, I don’t think she will be able to loosen up and get the hang of dancing. Kinda makes me wonder how she ever got pregnant.”
Patti, SO TRUE!!!
I completely agree with Linde’s section on Bristol and Mark. Mark’s my fav pro but I have to say either his heart’s completely not in it anymore or he is truly challenged by her (and not in the right way). Linde’s comments made a lot of sense to me and I think he needs to step up and find a way to break through Bristol’s cast-iron shell and get “something” out of her or they deserve to go home!
I’m frankly ILL over the whole Corky/Florence thing, literally!!! It’s not cute, it’s not dignified and I don’t think it’s at all endearing and I wouldn’t be at all upset not to have to endure another week of them, so if they go home tonight, I will consider it a personal favor!
Patti, you just cracked my ass up with the wondering how Bristol got pregnant. LOL – well done. 🙂
i hope it bristol. i’m sorry but La sua danza era una cattiva. very cattiva. much as i dislike mike(still not calling him by that ridiculious nickname), he has shown(or at least acted like he isn’t a total guido.
Thx Heidi!! Makes things alot easier to understand loool :P!
Sorry Princess don’t agree! Tiny, small, round stage gave us dances that were not as good and couldn’t be because of the size of the stage. BAD BAD BAD move! Give us back the regular stage so we can get all of a dance the pro’s choreography can give us, and all of the camera angles possible for us to enjoy the show. Got none of that last night! Small stage just plain sucked!
Thank you for putting this together. The show last night was strange and flat. Good point that it’s probably harder for the pros and producers to make it entertaining when the actual dancing is bleh with no ringers. Yes, there’s Jennifer but I’m waiting for her to blow out her back or foot – not rooting for it. I hope the Situation stays if only because Karina has been all in – and he’s trying, too. Good report but I hope you’re wrong about tonight.
I have a different issue. These performances have always had a strong element of Broadway or Las Vegas show dancing in them, despite Len’s admonitions. Can’t they move on to some other dances or dance forms. Jazz? Others? I’d even consider 2 person versions of some folk dances. Also, let’s vary the pros somewhat. They had a contest to pick a new pro and she only danced one season. Obviously, as the actual salary has increased, not to mention the spinoffs and celebrity, most pros I expect want to stay active?
I agree, the top 3, Jennifer, Audrina and Brandy, are going to be safe. And I do think that one of the bottom 3 will be leaving tonight. And I want them all to stay, and all to go! For different reasons!
Florence/Corky: STAY because she IS a classy lady, and she’s dancing much better than any of the MoreLifeExperienced Celebrities that we’ve had. GO because I have had MORE than enough of her Pro. Why couldn’t they let Jonathan teach Florence?
Bristol/Mark: STAY because I’ve found a soft spot for her. She is trying, and she’s improving and her technique isn’t bad. GO because Mark is a lot like his dad, and while I do think he was teaching her well at the beginning of the season, it now seems to me like he’s clocked out, and I don’t like him showcasing himself.
Mike/Karina: STAY because he’s like that goofy kid that everyone wants to “beat the bully” in those cheesy teenager movies…. Kind of clueless, but still sweet and strangely endearing. GO because I think his run is done.
The middle three, Kyle, Kurt and Rick, I HONESTLY would not be unhappy if Rick was the first of the 3 to go. I’ve thought that the judges gave him more credit than he deserved, because he’s “foxy.” This week and last week, Cheryl did all the dancing. They were like Karina and Mark, but Cheryl got more credit, and they seemed to pretend that Rick did more dancing than he actually did. And I think Kurt comes off MUCH more likeable to me, definitely the Ty factor. Kyle’s got great presentation, but lacking in the technique, and I honestly thought his performance this week suffered, from working so hard on technique.
I’ve actually kind of fallen for The Situation. He’s really funny (most of the time without trying) and I like Karina. She’s been very patient and she’s done a good job. Though he obviously needed the votes much more, I gave all of mine (which is alot.. lots of email addresses. :)) to Jennifer and Derek because Derek the greatest thing to walk this planet and Jennifer is pretty dang amazing herself. 🙂 But I’d like to see Florence and Corky go home. I’m really over them. I agree with what Courtney said earlier in the season: that she’s trying too hard to be as great with the all the “crude humor” as the amazing Cloris Leachman was in Season 7. But I’m not going to pretend that I didn’t absolutely love the “appropriate” and “not appropriate” signs in the package and in the celebraquarium. That whole thing got me laughing pretty hard.
Bruce – there are two sides to the pro equation. Of course, the pros want to stay because it’s a high profile gig and they’re paid well. BUT, I would imagine that the producers would move heaven and earth to keep Derek, Cheryl, Maks and Mark (at the VERY least) because they have very large fanbases of their own. They are becoming stars in their own right – they ARE bigger stars than some of the people who come on the show. That means ratings. Both sides win.
Jay, bite your tongue, re: Jennifer – but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t have the same concerns.
Everyone willing to throw Rick under the bus? Wow, the guy works hard out there, the stage threw him off last night, and they did get less practise time in because of a trip to Atlanta, but gawd, Kurt Warner is nauseating. What did he think he was signing up for when he came on this show? A disney cartoon? That whole “I am Christian” really rubbed me the wrong way. So other people who are Christians can’t dance ballroom as it’s intended because they’re not comfortable with dancing with someone other than their spouse? What century are we in? I’m sorry that he had to go there and use that as an excuse for not doing a rumba, because he knew what he was doing when he signed on the dotted line. He also said he was going to do what it takes to win back in week 1 including baring his chest and being sexy and wearing spandex. So what changed?
I dislike Christianity a great deal, but Kurt does seem like a genuinely nice guy. I think because a large portion of his fan base knows he is very religious, it was appropriate for him to address this difficulty, either real or imagined.
As for Rick Fox, I liked him on OZ, but I do not find him physically appealing, although I guess I can see why other people do? But his dancing is much more awkward than Kurt’s. Sure he’s taller, but they are both large men and I feel that Kurt has much better musicality and commitment to the character. I think the judges are being really hard on him and have babied Rick until last night. Again, I like Rick Fox, but I think he is a very flawed presence on the dance floor. I went in thinking I wasn’t going to like Kurt much, but he is definitely appealing and a lot better than I thought he was going to be.
Kurt Warner is STIFF. He has not danced well at all and the latin dancing has exposed his flaws even further.
And as far as being a Christian is concerned, I’m a Catholic, and yet I would have no problem grinding up against Maks if I was paid handsomly to do it and especially since my husband and I knew exactly what I was signing before I started the show. Heck, Jennifer Grey has no problem being amorous towards Derek and her husband and daughter have been there every week.
Oh, and BTW Jennifer is a practising Jew. Does that make her less committed to her faith because she’s able to act like she enjoys dancing with a man who is not her husband?
Please. Warner does nothing to advance dance if he’s going to be a stiff and act like a stiff with his partner.
Andie, I agree. I thought that was a little weird that Kurt had such a big issue with getting more intimate with Anna. Really, if he was that concerned about his faith being an issue, maybe he shouldn’t have signed up to do the show? Don’t get me wrong though, I like the guy a lot. He’s a class act and it’s cool he’s thinking of his wife.
You know, Kurt isn’t the FIRST celebrity who signed on the dotted line to do the show, and then had problems with the intimacy in the rumba…. I doubt he’s going to be the last.
Kurt isnt’ the first, but he’s the first to use Christianity as a crutch.
Well we haven’t got any surprises yet as to who is going home. They had to put a fork in The Situation, he was well done.
What happens when you have a season with no Nicoles ” Ringers ” and no Kate Gosselins ” People that are gonna get votes even if they bomb “? Whoever is at the bottom of the leaderbored is almost guranteed to go home. GOSH suprise me a little! Forget the results shows just tell whoevers at the bottom to pack there suit case and hike to Jimmy Kimmel!! Lol! :P!
I dont blame Kurt for being uncomfertable at all!! That would be ackward, like two married people Rumba…..ing ” Yes its a word 😛 ” together and not with there spouse while both there spouses watch!!! Tou try doing that Andie! He even did a GOOD job while doing it and anyone that has class would have some thoughts about it, and its awesome how his wife was totally chill about it too.
Im a christian and i give Kurt major props!
I just wonder why Mark is always clinging to Bristol..i see him as being too touchy!
Kurt Warner is an Evangelical Christian, which is what I was raised as (but not any longer). Their doctrine is rooted in a much more puritanical dogma than Catholic, Jewish, or most other prevalent religion in the Western hemisphere. Dancing lewdly with another woman would be very questionable, and in many churches, frowned upon. I think by addressing it, he assured his fellow believers that this was taken into consideration, and with his wife’s blessing, was deemed to be appropriate. While I am no longer a part of that belief system, if I had been, I would be wondering what he would make of it as well. So I think it was very natural for it to be addressed since it’s such a well known part of his character.
Right, so if your belief system considers ballroom dancing lewd why would you be on the show in the first place? Either you suck it up, and embrace the show for what it is, or you don’t. You don’t use your religious angst to explain your lack of ability.
You obviously don’t like the guy, which is fine. But I don’t think he used it as an excuse for his “lack of ability”. You seem to be taking his approach to this really personally, so perhaps you should lighten up a bit. I don’t even care if the guy goes home or doesn’t, or when. I was just clarifying why his belief system SHOULD be addressed because of how prevalent it is to what people know about him. You seem to ignore that logical part of my statement, so keep trolling.
BTW, I think it’s good that such a Bible thumper isn’t being such a retard about the dances. He said it made him uncomfortable but still did it – instead of preaching why it’s “sinful”, but rather, why it could be perceived as such but then by examining it with logic, it obviously wasn’t. So he did it, and he didn’t get struck down with a fiery vengeance.
Oh brother. This is the first season I’ve seen someone use his religion as an excuse. Of course it’s his reason why he “couldn’t get into character” but whatever, his pissed off personality wasn’t quite as bad as the Situation upon receiving the scores, but it didn’t make me want to vote for him either.
I took the religion thing the way that Figamentation did. Did Kurt actually say “I’m uncomfortable with the intimacy of the dance, so won’t do it very well” or “My poor performance/scores were because the intimacy conflicts with my religion”? Maybe I just missed it. Anyway, at least it wasn’t the Lambada… 😀
the whole Kurt’s religion thing is a tempest in a teapot, IMHO. I don’t think HE made a big deal out of it at all, and I certainly don’t see where he’s used it as a crutch. I think he’s shown time and again that he’s willing to do whatever it takes in this competition – and taking a moment to talk to his wife about the intimacy in this dance they’re doing – well, that’s just damn considerate. One thing to sign up to do this show, another to find yourself in the arms of a beautiful red head doing simultaneous hip gyrations. So maybe he didn’t think through every eventuality before signing on the dotted line – not unlike so many other celebs who didn’t think through how much hard work this competition really takes. Prefacing his concerns with “as a Christian guy ….” is no different than Rick constantly referring to his height, or Kyle referring to youth, or Jennifer commenting on her neck surgery.
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+1 LINDE!!!!! 😉
Well said, Linde. Couldn’t agree more! 🙂
Everyone is giving the football hall of famer a by. I bet if it were anyone else on the show tongues would be wagging. But, he’s the first white guy NFL player so everyone is looking the other way while he stinks up the dance floor, has a poor attitude when he gets his scores, and uses the worst kind of pandering to get the vote.
Give it a rest ANDIE!!!! Nicely said Linde!!!
@ Linde – Speaking of the beautiful redhead, didn’t Anna look gorgeous in her gown? I have to admit I was watching her hair fly by so much I forgot to look at Kurt! 🙂
Hmmm I hit a nerve. At least he finally got the scores he deserved, he’s been overscored all competition until Monday.
Oh, and for all the Rick Fox haters, he’s been scoring top 3 in this poll for 4 weeks running, so he’s got some support out there.
http://www.learntodance.com/dwts_vote_results.htm
“Hmmm I hit a nerve.”
your surprise surprises me, Andie, wasn’t that your intent all along?
Actually I thought there were more people who actually appreciated dance and not football personalities so much, but I was wrong.
Anyway, I’m hearing that Jen and Derek have foxtrot to a Sinatra tune, probably Love and Marriage from Married with Children. That’s a great draw if they have it.
Oh I just remembered something. When Kathy Ireland danced with Tony, there was a week that she gave all glory and praise to God and most everyone thought it was awkward, it’s nothing anybody who gets an award these days says, but coming from Evangelical Kathy it just didn’t sit well and she was gone the next night.
Too bad you haven’t won any superbowls Kathy, you’d be top 3.
Carlie – in my opinion Anna always looks beautiful. Her radiant smile and that wonderful red hair – well, pretty much every other pro pales in comparison. Yes, Kym is hot and Chelsie is cute and Edyta’s body rocks etc etc etc – but Anna trumps them all IMHO. It is hard to concentrate on the celeb with Anna in the picture !
Kym is actually my favorite female Pro, though – her personality, her performance level (she can tell tales with just a pose and a look), her no-drama attitude and cheery outlook ….. she’s who I wanna be in my next life 😉
I have to admit though, I’m really enjoying that Anna has been on so consistently – I think she’s kind of letting us in a little more, to get to know her a little more. Evan brought out a different side of Anna, a more approachable side, if that makes sense. She seemed aloof to me the first couple of times she was on – very beautiful, but cool.
Andie who peed in your ceral? Just shut up! Gosh!
Im giving Linde 10 points so add that to Vogues 1 point and its
Linde: 11 Andie: 0
LINDE WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s funny that I’m defending Kurt Warner’s actions, because as I stated – I am as far away from Christian as can be now AND I expected to dislike him. I find him surprisingly charming and much better on the dance floor. I can only assume that the troll has it in for Kurt because he is constantly compared to Rick due to them both being big athletic men. They are totally different, and despite my prior appreciation of Rick Fox I am a bit disappointed in his performance thus far. I just don’t like how he looks on the dance floor as much as the other celebs. But this is completely separate from my feelings about Kurt. They don’t reflect one another, despite them both being athletes.
But not disparaging Kurt Warner because he’s white? Cmon. I am sure that there are people that are glad he’s white. I’m sure there are people that give a shit that he was in the NFL. I’m certainly not one of them in either case. Plus comparing him to Kathy Ireland is a bad call, as she was HORRIBLE on the dance floor. One of the worst they had on the show that was not strictly prohibited due to age or other disabilities. She didn’t show much of a personality and came across as vapid. I can’t imagine many people wanting to keep her around. Plus supermodels tend to either stick around a long time or get booted off pretty early – she was obviously one of the latter.
Anyway, as Linde said, I don’t think his mentioning himself as Christian was anything more than him talking about a particular challenge for him that week.
I just had a good chuckle at myself for getting in an internet argument over DWTS. I don’t even vote! lol!
(But if I did, I would probably vote for Kyle, Jennifer, Kurt, Brandy & formerly the Situation)
lol Shame on you Fig. You need to start voting!!! 😉
Nah, I’m really glad I don’t vote, actually. I have people I like on the show, more than others, but very few people that I want gone. I also find myself much less disappointed if I don’t vote if one of my favorites gets booted off – I don’t have as much invested in them, and truly I can just enjoy the show for its entertainment value. So while I may argue in favor of one or four more than the others, the reasons I have are always different (entertainment value, dancing ability, personality and prior appreciation of their work) and this way I don’t have to stress over which to pick each week. I can enjoy them all for what they give. Like this week, I would have much preferred Bristol to go home (if only so Mark so mark could stop looking so desperate) I am much less disappointed at the actual outcome than if I had spent time trying to change the course of something I really don’t find that it matters (such as when Gilles and Shawn were in the final – I wanted him to win but I was totally fine with her winning). I realize that my approach isn’t for everyone and that a lot of people need the voting to feel involved, but it’s how I think I maximize my enjoyment.
Thanks for explaining. Your reasoning is perfectly understandable. With an exception to a few times, I didn’t use to vote. I just sat back and enjoyed the show. But, that all changed with the Joanna and Derek pairing. I just loved those two and it felt like they needed as many votes as possible….especially at the end.