DWTS Season 12 – PRO WATCH!!
IT’S ALMOST TIME!!!!!Β π
Well, it’s about that time again, folks, and even though we are having a Hough-less season I find myself very excited to start this all over again!! Last season was rough there at the end and I’m looking forward to a fresh start – the time off (mostly) did me good. π So where are we on the pros?? Well, the only thing certain right now is Derek is out. Most of the remaining pros appear to be assembling in LA, including Damian and Peta – although I’m not sure where Maks and Tony are. But do they really need to be in LA to find out?
Check back here often – we will update this post as we go. With my luck stuff will happen when I’m unavailable. But maybe Courtney and John can update if they don’t see me do something rather quickly and can’t get me online. Here’s the list we’re starting with – I’ve intentionally left out Alec and Edyta based on their tweets, but let us know if I’ve neglected anyone.
The Men
Derek – Out for Season 12; filming Cobu 3D
Maks – ??
Mark – Per @BewitchBallas, Β his Management says end of next week he finds out.
Louis – IN (see below)
Tony – IN – per Disney News and the tweet shown below
Damian – ??
Dmitry – ??
Jonathan – ??
Corky – ??
The Women
Cheryl –IN (changed fromΒ tentative to “fer sure” per Cheryl’s Facebook)
Anna T. – ??
Lacey – IN (?? see below)**
Chelsie – IN (? See Video Posted by Vogue)
Karina – ??
Kym – ??
Anna D. – ??
Ashly – ??
Peta Murgatroyd* – ??
Julianne* – ??
*I included Peta and Julianne with the women mainly due to some internet blather about Jules and lots of clues about a potential Peta appearance as a full time pro (really, will the producers be able to resist a new “couple”??).
Lacey tweeted a comment not too long ago to Derek saying something like “I’m excited to be your dance class buddy”Β – people took this several different ways. Some thinking it meant she was out for the season and working her Dad’s studio, and Derek was participating in some way. I took it to mean that Derek was taking lessons related to his movie, and she and/or her dad was somehow involved. It could be both, I suppose, but Lacey has been abnormally quiet on the subject of DWTS and I can usually rely on her to blab. π Times like this I actually LOVE that about her.Β Β But if I find out she has a part in Derek’s movie, I may go postal. πΒ You’ve been warned.
Cheryl and Mark fully intend to be on this season and are waiting to find out if they are or not. I think some questioned whether they would be around based on Cheryl’s book tour and Mark’s music related activities.Β Louis also wants to be on the show pretty badly, based on his excitement over finding out. The rest, as far as I can tell, have been pretty mum on the subject.Β TALK, PEOPLE!! π
ETA: Β Think Lacey is in??
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ETA 2: How about Louis?? I’ve updated the tweet I had with the one below – when someone tweeted asking if that meant he was on DWTS for sure, he responded with only a wink. π
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ETA 3: Tony doesn’t usually say, as I recall, but I’ll take his smile here as a yes.
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I’ll never give up on seeing Anya Garnis and/or Pasha Kovalev as pro dancers on DWTS… NEVER! π
Lacey has been unusually silent thus far – she’s usually yapping up a storm about wanting to know if she’s gonna be on each season. Makes me wonder if she already knows, or if she’s just trying to save face in case she doesn’t get asked back.
I would honestly be shocked if Jules came back – seems like she’s got several other more lucrative, exciting ventures out there. Then again, I think this is the first season since she left that she isn’t on tour or filming a movie. Hmmm.
According to his Twitter, Maks has just returned to NYC this morning, so at least he’s back on the continent. He also mentioned being able to join whatever Kurt Warner has going on – football wise – sometime in March, depending on scheduling.
And Cheryl mentioned just yesterday, I think that she’d schedule her book tour around whatever DWTS has in store for her and she’d be finding out soon.
Didn’t I say that about Cheryl?? I think I did…
I fully expect Maks and Tony to be back on this season – but they have not indicated anything one way or another. Playing football? Not really a good enough sign for me. π
Jules has been saying that she’d like to come back, Court – but of course, that doesn’t mean she WILL. I just wonder if the producers wouldn’t LOVE to pull the Hough switcheroo for a season and see what kind of hay they can make out of it. Seems like their kind of thing.
If Julianne returns, it will be a dream!!!
All my votes for her!
I can’t stop dreamming about a finale with at least 2 pros from Ballas-Hough clan.
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Courtney, I agree about Lacey. She’s mumming the word this year (so far). I wonder if she got in trouble last year for saying things too early?
Yep Evaine, Maks flew back to New York in the middle of the night and tweeted he hoped his family (“Mommy”) were going to pick him up. I hope this means he’s on his way back to LA next? π
And Heidi, see the video in this link (which we posted about after the Grammies) in case you didn’t see it. Julianne sounded negative about returning this Season (since she has a lot of other music and movie projects going)but didn’t discount future Seasons.
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Julianne-Hough-DWTS-1029496.aspx
If Jules gets the part in Rock of Ages, they start filming in May. With her being director, Adam Shankman’s, “date” to the opening night of the musical in LA last week and the producer or the writers of the musical singing her praises, it sounds like she is most likely getting the part. I’d love to see Julianne back for one more season, though. I just doubt that she would ever be back after about two years away. Besides, her comments make it sound that she’s up to doing pro dances on the show, but not actually teach a celebrity anymore.
I would thoroughly enjoy Mark Ballas taking a season off to “focus on his music.” I doubt Julianne Hough will ever be back to the show, even with pro dances, as acting appears to be what she is most interested in. It would be fun to see Jonathan & Anna and Damien & Peta as part of the cast.
Derek hung out with Shankman on a couple of occassions and also with Mia Michaels and it didn’t appear to mean anything – of course, the movie stuff takes years to get lined up so who knows? It could be something after Cobu – that was apparently in the works for a long time. And Shankman is all over the movie business. As for Mia, I see she’s heavily involved in “Grace”, Carrie Ann Innaba’s show about a ballroom dancing family. I’m wondering if any DWTS pros are going to make appearances. They can’t be leads, I don’t think, since Eric Roberts is the dad and many of them would be too old to play his children. Except maybe Chelsie…
But really, I’m wishing for a Hough simply because I can see the fans of other pros now realizing maybe their shot at a win isn’t as big as they thought. π
If Juliane came back, she would probably be the biggest fan fave pro there. I would hope Lacey is part of this season. If anything, thye can live without Chelsie on the show (she is a great dancer but a little lacking in the personality department in my opinin). Ashely delgroso would be awesome to see again. She was so good with Buzz Aldrin (I used to vote for him). She really made him have the time of his life and unlike some older c0ntestants (Cloris) he really was doing the dances. She really brought a lot of energy to the show. If Cheryl isn’t back, I would be shocked. She really is partly responsible for making the show a hit as well. After season two, she emerged as the best female pro but lately has been given some dud partners (all after she was partnered wth Giles).
Lacey is IN? I bet that’s what her tweet means too!!! π She was a blast last year. She’s really grown on me a lot. I look forward to her quirkiness and creativity again!
so louis is in too:
his twitter says:
Good news!!!!!!!!!
I got a lot of tan today….Woohoo
Is this getting exciting or WHAT??!!! π
It may mean nothing but Lacey is already talking about spray tanning. The only time she ever talks about tanning is around DWTS season. Probably means nothing but thought i’d post it π
The annoucements are slowly trickling in – I have a feeling they’ll gain momentum as the week progresses, since TPTB are likely still firming up contracts with this season’s celebs at this point. I’m wondering if the next announcement will be someone telling us they’re not on this season…last season seemed like a random smattering of “I’m in/I’m not in” by midweek.
I know I should probably already know this, but when are they announcing the actual couples for this season? Is it the morning after the cast announcement, on GMA? I always enjoy the brief 12-14 period where we know the celebs & the pros, but not who’s paired with who – always invites interesting speculation π
I think Peta pretty much confirmed she’ll be on DWTS by RT this. I think…
http://twitter.com/#!/kanitydane1014/status/39126169127354368
Nothing official on that date yet Courtney. Like you, I enjoy that time period too where we can guess who the pairs are coupled with. I love it when all the official new pictures are released. Fun times coming up for sure. Can’t wait! π
Courtney, usually the pairings are announced within about a week after the actual contestants have been revealed. The cast will be revealed on Feb. 28th, I’m guessing that their partners will be revealed in the 1st week of March.
I’m actually surprised that they are possibly brining in a new female pro. I hope they bring Karina back this season.
That’s not quite true, Dee. Last season they announced the pairings the next day on GMA. It may have seemed like a week because we actually knew the whole cast several days BEFORE it was announced, thanks to a TMZ leak. That gave us time to guess the pairings – which I always find to be fun.
They used to not make a big deal at all about the pairings until they realized that people cared about that as much or more than who was on the show. We used to have to guess using paparazzi pics. I think once they realized that it was impossible to keep is secret once they started rehearsing, so now they just announce it.
As for Peta- sorry Jennifer, that’s not enough for me where she’s concerned. We’ve followed Louis and Lacey long enough to know how they operate – and know that both can’t resist sharing. That re-tweet could be all wishful thinking/hoping on Peta’s part. I need a bit more.
Yeah, echoing Heidi’s sentiments, we are fairly certain about Lacey & Louis because they’re the 2 pros with the biggest mouths π They can’t seem to resist letting everyone know that they’re going to be on the show. As for everyone else – total crap shoot. We’re making an educated guess about Cheryl, since she seems to be tweeting with the assumption that she’ll be on the show this season, plus she’s pretty popular & knows how to “play the game” so to speak – there’s no real reason for her not to do the show this season. The rest of the pros have been almost completely silent about the show – I have a feeling it’s gonna be a bit harder from here on out to determine who’s in, as some of them don’t say anything until after the cast annoucement. It’s usually easier to determine who’s out, since pros who aren’t coming back seem to let their fans know so they don’t get their hopes up. I think Peta is gonna be a hard one to call – it seems like there’s a decent possibility of her doing the show this season (better than any of the other female pros we’ve seen gunning for a spot in the past few seasons), but she may be one of the last ones to know, just due to the pecking order. I could see TPTB making sure they have partners for all their incumbent female pros first, and then seeing if they have anything “leftover” for Peta. Sucks, but as we’ve seen, it’s far harder for newer pros to get on the show these days, because older pros tend to have a following that will draw in viewers.
Very interesting comments, Courtney! Im really hopeing Jonathan and Damian are back too.
Julianne is never coming back to DWTS. She is careful not to say Never in interviews because she doesn’t want to alienate her DWTS fanbase, but she’s never coming back. She has offers for roles in huge movies coming out her ears, she’s way beyond DWTS.
Heidi, I forgot about that but I think you are right. They use to make us wait but they did change it up a bit last season, probably primarily due to the cast leak. They seem to have the leak situation under control this season for the most part any way. Should be interesting I suppose!
Louis just tweeted that he has to get new clothes for rehearsals…. and then winked back at someone who asked if it was for dwts.
I saw it John and just now realized that maybe I should update the post. π What can I say, it’s Sunday!!
Ok so this could mean nothing but on Jonathan’s twitter account he says that he’s flying to Boston, NYC, and Wisconson. Again HUGE GRAIN OF SALT but this makes me wander if he’s IN and partnered with like a singer, entertainer, etc and having to fly around alot like with Macy is season 9. Man I just really hope Jonathans back. Thoughts people? π
I noticed that tweet too, Zach. Not sure what to think? He could be travelling for some more dance appearances too. Note too how quiet Anna has been. I also noticed how Karina said she is headed back to L.A. this week. Hmmm…as the dance world continues to turn. WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?? π―
If he’s flying around like that this week, then it’s probably NOT for DWTS. I doubt very much they start rehearsing before the announcement – they used to, but too many people were getting busted by the paparazzi. Last couple seasons they’ve only had 3 weeks before the show to rehearse, I think partly because of that. Besides, Jonathan has been travelling all over for a while. I don’t think its a new thing.
Anna, in the past, has said “I’m not going to say anything until it’s official” or until it actually happens. She might not know yet.
Mark took on FB to reveal he’s excited. I bet he’s in.
Both Jonathan & Anna travel quite a bit during the off-season, mostly to teach and sometimes to compete (I know Jonathan does quite a bit of competing with his students in the pro-am division). They were actually teaching at Marianya’s studio last week. I wouldn’t read too far into Jonthan traveling – it’s most likely not related to the show. And the way I’ve been made to understand it, the pros don’t get told whether they’re in or out until their potential celeb partner has signed their contract – which is what is likely happening all this week. He likely doesn’t know yet, and he may not know for awhile – I don’t think he’s a definite “out” right now, as he usually announces it on his Twitter if he’s not coming back a for particular season. If what my bf told me the other night is true, one of Tony’s partners (he’s not sure who) actually waited until the day of the cast announcement to sign their contract – meaning Tony didn’t know he was going to be on the show until a few hours prior to the actual announcement. So the celebs could be dragging their feet on signing these contracts – which in turn means the pros might not find out until later in the week. Fingers crossed for Jonathan, though π
YES, Courtney! Crossed fingers!!!! Vogue this is really getting exciting! I think/speculate/HOPE Karina is in LA because of connections with DWTS. π
Oh, joyous. Another season of Mark Ballas fish faces, OTT mugging and OTT self-promoting. But I suppose TPTB cannot have both Hough and Ballas off the same season.
I dunno, Jennifer – he’s playing the Roxy tonight in Vancouver (I think) – That’s much more likely to get him excited. He’s never been one to hold back on his status, I don’t think.
Or maybe I have a hard time believing that Mark gets excited about DWTS these days…..
that’s true Cortney.
I know Belinda Carlise was supposed to be on Season 6 instead of Season 7 and partnered with Tony. She had totally forgotten and was on her way to India instead. Marissa was her replacement ( which explains a lot)
I bet tony was very thankful for that…
LOL Princess Heidi. SOOOO True
I think last season they met their partners before the announcement. I seem to remember people asking about partners at the ‘press conference’ even though the stars couldn’t give away the names of their partners. I actually took Jonathan’s travels as a sign he may not be back. It’s a lot of cities to hit in a week. I’m assuming the pros have to be free by the end of the week to meet their partners before the Monday announcement. Maybe he’s just trying to get all the traveling done before then.
I don’t think so, Amy. I think some stars know who their partner is – and the pros are definitely told, so they can google if necessary. It all goes back to one unnamed pro walking into a studio and having NO IDEA which person in the room was their partner. Talk about embarrassing. π
Anyway, either or both may know who their partner is, but I don’t think they’ve had any rehearsal time prior to the announcement for a couple seasons now.
Deena, I’m not a Mark fan by any stretch of the imagination, but can you post about anything OTHER than your disdain for him? I’m just wondering – I’ve seen a similar comment on almost every post on this site. It gets a bit tiresome after a while. Are there people on the show that you LIKE?? That you want to see more of??
Yeah Jonathan seems to travel a lot in the off-season – he was just performing with Chelsie somewhere, and now Mark and Chelsie are headed to Vancouver for a show or something. I definitely wouldn’t read too much into their travels this week unless someone announces they are going away for 2 months to Bangladesh or something – then we could pretty much count them out. Please though, I really hope Jonathan is back!!!!! If he’s not back this season I lose all hope for the future of his status as a competing pro (although I’ll still take seeing him in the pro numbers).
Breaking News: Christine O’Donnell got the official ‘ask from DWTS
http://www.facebook.com/supportchristine/posts/10150110604247376
WOW! WOW!
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I may be wrong, but I don’t think this is a good thing.
You are not wrong, Evaine – it’s a fucking nightmare. They aren’t just asking politicians, they are asking politicians that are widely considered freaks, even by their own party.
Is that a shark I see???????
Okay, is it really possible that she JUST got the official ask when the announcement is tonight? Unless she’s a last minute replacement for someone who declined to sign her contract at the last minute for whatever reason? God, I don’t WANT to think the producers are a bunch of total morons.
Puke. Actually, whatever – I don’t care who they have on the show, but I’m more puking at the support that crazy lady gets on her FB page. Scares the bejesus outta me. Maybe they can get Keith Olberman and her to duke it out.
I just checked the post on this site from last season’s press conference, and some of the stars said they had already rehearsed. The press conference was the announcement last season. I’m sticking with the theory that most of them meet before the announcement.
Keith would know better than to destroy his political cred with DWTS, I think. But I can hear lots of tweets about the Witch on DWTS from his corner. π
The announcement isn’t until next week Evaine, so it’s possible. Eeek.
Amy, I’ll take your word for it, although after the latest news I don’t much care any more. I will say that there is a different between all of them meeting and a couple of them rehearsing. There’s no way they will all be in rehearsals before Saturday or Sunday – most are dead silent, and Maks is still in NYC. I don’t think their presence in LA is indicative of anything right now. Isn’t that where you were going?
My bad! I thought the announcement was tonight. *LOL* I thought we were the 28th today. *RME*
Nerved up? Moi? Nah!!!!
*g*
While I find the very thought of Christine on the show the biggest load of bull since Bristol, I’m not gonna get all riled up about it – looks like a good deal of her supporters are discouraging her from doing it, and it already sounds like she’s decided herself that it’s not a good idea. At this point, if she does do the show, at least her supporters won’t have the “She’s just an innocent teenager!” defense to fall back on if she makes a total fool of herself. Muahahaha. Gotta go, gonna go stock up on some voodoo dolls & eye of newt so I can put a hex on her this season π
Gads! Please “No” to Christine. This would be like Bristol Part 2 all over again! *CRIES* PLEASE NO!!
It would be worse than Bristol, I think, in a way. Although I can’t stand Sarah Palin’s politics, I tried to give Bristol a chance since she isn’t her mother. It really wasn’t until the end of the season when the whole FB fiasco, her indignation and her comments about “not getting the tens she deserved”, the haters, all in spite of the ridiculous overscoring on her last Jive, etc…that I began to develop a sense that the apple didn’t fall far from the tree. But Christine O’Donnell hasn’t got that excuse in my eyes and her platform is somehow even more ridiculous than Palin’s. That being said, I think she’s far less popular than Sarah Palin and while we’d possibly see a little bit of a retread from last season, I think that the rest of DWTS’s fans have wizened up enough to not let it happen at least for a few more seasons (once they’ve forgotten). And yeah, she doesn’t have the victim of the media angle to work for her either – her mistakes are all her own π
OH NO not Christine O’Donnell. You’re right its gonna be Bristol: Part 2. She’s hardly a celebrity, I’m sure they could find somebody else besides her. I wish they would just leave politics out of it like everyone wants, but the ratings from last season’s politics seems to have won the producers’ attentions. I hope to God she said no.
I do hope Jonathan gets a chance to be on the show again. He’s probably the most “abused” pro in the sense that they never really give him anybody that has a chance. He either gets someone that isn’t well liked, or someone that isn’t well known. HOWEVER, if he is a pro on the show and they pair him up with another Macy Gray like person, I would rather they just put him out of his misery and have him skip the season. I would not want him to go through another one of those ordeals and would probably be way better off teaching and traveling.
Cheryl on Joy Behar’s show said for her and Tony Dovolani, “it will be our 11th season”
So Tony is IN.
Nope, Maddy – not enough for us. Too ambiguous – she could be talking in generalities or assumptions. Plus, she is talking FOR Tony, which is never a good thing to take as solid.
Let Tony take a break and bring in Jonathan if that’s what it takes! Tony seems like a nice guy most of the time (not always) but his routines more than any others are just duds for me. I think he tries to be too strict on the basics of the choreography, which is great for a real competition but for DWTS does not make for great television. Of course maybe the same could be said for Jonathan – but he’s had way worse celebs than some of Tony’s (Stacey, Marissa, Melissa and Audrina for example) and I just snooze when Tony is up. I’m always going to keep an open mind and hope for the best for ALL the pros – even Corky, who I can’t stand most of the time – but he just seems to me the most expendable male pro (but maybe there’s something to be said for his supposed nice guy appeal).
But I realize as I type that out that Tony will most likely be back – unless his rumored (emphasis on rumor) transgressions with Audrina get him some flack. Doubtful though. I wish for Tony to get an older lady celeb then, be nice and smile and have a relatively early exit with class (not a Kate Gosselein – wouldn’t wish that on anyone).
If those sorts of transgressions were a sin in the land of DWTS, Fig, Derek would have been out after Season 6. And possibly others. π Of course…Derek isn’t married and neither was his partner.
Yeah, that’s what I mean – of course, two people can do whatever they want, and there’s always going to be hook-ups, but there’s been rumors of the married Tony getting a little hands on with his partners and upsetting their significant others (I’m sure I’m not saying anything people haven’t heard before – and there’s no way of proving it, either). But to be truthful I’m just looking for any reason to boot Tony in favor of Jonathan π
Wait! what? Tony and Audrina?
Why is there sometimes questions about Tony’s fidelity. Is it that people are so cynical about relationships in Hollywood? I haven’t heard anything more than rumors though.
Without going into any detail, let’s just say Tony has a reputation in the ballroom community for having a bit of a roving eye. There’s no doubt in my mind that he loves his wife & children…but for some men, sometimes that’s just not enough. He seems like a nice guy. Draw your own conclusions.
I’ve seen what the pros are like when the cameras are turned off, and Tony is actually a really nice man and Corky is extremely nice and cool as well as Mark. Same goes for Chelsie, Kym, and especially Louis. But everybody’s favorite, Derek, is not the nicest man to be around. So I’m kinda happy he’s out for season 12, but hopefully when he does come back for season 13, he will actually have a challenge and have a celebrity with no dancing experience like Corky and Louis are always stuck with. Granted he’s very talented in his choreography, but it’s not really fair to the other pros.
Courtney that’s what I have heard…that he’s a good father and loves his wife, but that he’s not been 100% faithful (now that may be okay in his relationship with his wife, I am not him nor in his marriage…and again it may not even be true). Tony has been through a lot in his life, witnessing firsthand horrible war crimes against his family, etc. He does seem nice on many occasions. People aren’t perfect, and we can never know what each person is dealing with. Sometimes that can be positively channeled…other times not. I mean, as much as I think Jonathan appears to be the *perfect* man (swoon), who knows what goes on in his marriage or in his life? Things are always different inside out, outside looking in. So I don’t want to sound too judgmental at Tony. It’s easy to excuse our own behavior and even easier to condemn others. Sorry for the derail!
Spoken like a loyal friend, John. I know this will be hard for you to believe, but I can be not nice to be around sometimes too. π I can’t imagine it is fun to be around the other pros when they all think you get the easy ride (bullshit) every season and have no trouble telling everyone who will listen. If YOU are saying it (provided that you aren’t lying, of course – always skeptical, nothing personal) then I imagine the others are saying worse than what makes it into the press. And that is bad enough. It’s pretty shitty behavior, even from so-called “nice guys”. Especially since any idiot can see that neither Jennifer, nor Nicole – nor any of his other partners – were walks in the park.
It is extremely disparaging of Derek’s talent and his work ethic to say such things and I would be a resentful bitch, if it were me. And I WOULD not be all PC with the media like Derek is. Boo Hoo, poor other pros getting stuck with Audrina, Melissa, Kristi, Shawn, Kelly and all the other great partners the people you mention have had. Poor babies. Hell, Corky should be kissing the producers asses for letting him on the show at all. Jealousy is an ugly thing, even between friends.
Ok, let me clear some things up. Nicole compared to Niecy and Kate G., Jennifer compared to Margaret and Florence, hmmm…. It’s obvious who would be easier and Len even said it himself when commenting on one of Kate’s performances that its much easier for pros who have more talented dance partners. All I’m saying is that I would like to see Derek have a challenge, and the fact that he has easier partners to work with and Louis, Corky, and others have more difficult partners to work with, Derek should not be seen as this fantastic, best dancer in the world. I’m sure some of the others pros could produce just as great if not better choreography if they had as talented partners as Derek always does. I would just like to see him with someone like Kelly or Kate and not someone like Nicole.
And when I say he’s not the nicest guy, I mean he has a bit of the hollywood cockiness and arrogance to him. And all he pretty much does is party, get drunk, and screw whatever girl he can find. And he’s rude to Henry, a paparazzi guy, whereas the other pros are not.
oh dear
So…that means I have a shot? Awesome! π
Sorry I don’t mean to start anything. We all have our own opinions. π
Please, John, you know perfectly well what I’m saying – you’re being disengenous in the extreme. Mark has had two of the biggest ringers in the history of the show – Kristi and Shawn, not to mention Sabrina. Tony has had Audrina and Melissa (and didnt’ he also have Stacey Kiebler?). Maks has had more great partners than anyone – Mel B, Erin, Brandy, Misty (and the list goes on). Louis had Kelly and he didn’t do half bad with Pricilla – and I’m sure there are other good partners from before I started watching. Corky ONLY gets on the show when there are older ladies on that they don’t want to pair with the younger guys – therefore, he should be glad he gets on the show and gets the exposure at all. Just because they didn’t always win doesn’t mean they didn’t get partners that were just as good as Derek’s. They just didn’t win for whatever reason. Derek had Brooke, Nicole and Jennifer – neither Jennifer nor Brooke can be legitimately called ringers. Jennifer is 50 years old (20 years older than Maks’ ringer for the season, and 25 years older than Tony’s great partner – Audrina). Brooke had never danced a day in her life. The ONLY ringer that Derek got was Nicole. Who were his other partners? Jennie (8the week), Shannon (7th week), Lil’ Kim, Joanna. Just because someone does reasonably well with a partner, does mean they getting favoritism. In fact, both Lil’ Kim and Joanna had so much baggage going in that most thought they would leave early. And no, having watched seasons 5 and 6 recently, having a good partner does not guarantee good choreography – that’s laughable and Tony is one of the worst of the lot in terms of boring. Every time I have this discussion about how they play favorites toward Derek, it annoys me even more because it is just ridiculously idiotic and borne out of jealousy. Such stupidity is just so extremely annoying. Very nice of you to be such a good friend to Tony and Louis though.
As for his not nice behavior?? Oh, that sounds just horrible. :::rolls eyes::: I’ve never seen a 25 year old do that before. I wonder if he can find me? LOL And do I really need to pull out the 500 videos of him being very nice to pap Henry?? You know I can. All pre-date Cheryl Cole of course. He ain’t talking to nobody nowadays. I do love how it’s somehow a sin to not suck the ass of the paparazzi – those lovely guys who yell at Joe Jonas questions about if he’s gay or chase Clooney in their cars almost causing accidents. Or scream at Derek about sleeping with Cheryl Cole. Or take pictures of you through windows when you’re shopping. Yeah, it’s a horrible not to be nice to THOSE guys. That’s devastating. LOL.
You talkin’ about Derek, Fig? The line forms behind me. And don’t you forget it. I don’t want to have to hurt you.
Start something, John?? I think you did intend to start something. And in this case, it’s not “opinion” – it’s delusion.
I love many of the pros and although Derek tends to be one of my favorites, I find the ringer stuff bull. Yes, Nicole was a ringer if there ever was one – but she WANTED Derek (as did Jennifer). But Brooke, Jennie, Lil’ Kim and Joanna were not ringers by any stretch of the imagination. Yes, they are all younger, in shape girls (although Jennifer is 50). But many of the pros have gotten them too. I’m pretty sure that with as many people that were annoyed with Jennifer this season if Derek HADN’T been her partner she would not have won. And yeah, Maks gets some great ones, as does Tony and Mark. Dmitry had not only a professional dancer in Mya, but she TAUGHT dance! It’s all about the total package of what the pro and celeb bring. Anyway, it doesn’t bother me that Derek gets pretty things. He’s so pretty himself! π Is he arrogant? Maybe. So is Maks, so are others. Fine by me. They are some of the best at their craft and receive a great deal of attention for what they do. I’d love to hear more about Derek’s personal conquests…he does seem to have a thing for cute brunettes so maybe if I play my cards right….yessssssssssssss.
Hahaha, you do deserve first crack at Derek. I’m okay with whatever shell of a man you leave to me. But I’d rather have Jonathan, and since I GUESS his wife might object…I can’t have either of them I’d take Maks as a consolation prize. I’ll show him who’s boss!
No No Fig. I’ve got dubs on Maks first and Derek second after Heidi. LOL!!!! π
Damnit, you’re a brunette?? I’m screwed. I’m a strawberry blonde and I think he’s a contientious objector to blondes, with all those sisters.
I’ll still hurt you though. I have dibs. π
I’ve never understood the problem with a bit of arrogance – I’ve never minded Maks until he starts running his mouth about OTHER people (and when he gives talented partners crap freestyles). And I swear, that ringer argument is such bullshit. I find the stupidity and the narrow minded, revisionist history of it very annoying. In case you couldn’t tell. Frankly, I think Derek is the most popular and talented pro because of what he managed to do with his NON-ringers, like Lil’ Kim, Joanna and Jennie. Any of those ladies would have gone earlier (and I agree Jennifer would have too) if not for Derek. Aren’t Derek and Cheryl the only two pros to get partners either fresh out of prison or on their way to prison?? π I think ole Tom DeLay is in prison right now, isn’t he?
I didn’t really mean to start anything Heidi, honestly. But if you look at the facts, every pro has had themselves a challenge in the past, meaning somebody who is overweight, old, and has hardly any shot in winning, except Derek. I just want a true challenge for him, that’s all. And I just think he should learn to have more patience like the other pros. Look how patient Tony was with Kate, except for that one time lol, and I think a challenge like that will teach him to have more patience.
I wondered how long it would be before Vogue threw her hat in the ring. π And Fig, I think you’ll have to arm wrestle Courtney for Jonathan.
There doesn’t appear to be a line for Mark or Tony. π
Kym Johnson’s twitter: At LAX on my way to Portland…
Ok there are two reasons that this caught my eye or else this would of ment nothing to me in idicating that she was either in or out. 1. Why is she randomly going to Portland and then not saying why? Hmmm
2. The … clued me in that shes trying to be mysterious ” Isnt that cute π Good Ole sweet Kimmy! “. I could be taking this wrong but the … made me think that shes trying to perpously hide the reason shes going to Portland. Im thinking shes going there to meet her partner. Why? Because of all the reasons I said above AND this is the exact right time that the celeb/pro meetings usally take place. Gosh im starting to feel like Sherlock Holmes! LOL! I could be taking this out of context because i really want Kym to be back ” And hopefully stay for more than a few hours unlike with The Hoff π “. But everything aside I think that might be an indicator that Kym will be back. Alright tell me why im wrong, guys?? π
Derek has been called “intense” and “driven” and an introvert and I don’t see that changing. I don’t WANT it to change – that’s the reason he’s so damn good and why he goes so much farther than anyone you seem to favor. That’s where the Emmy nominated choreograhy comes from – and if you think the producers don’t find THAT extremely valuable, you’re cray cray (as Courtney would say). And if you don’t think Jennifer was a huge challenge for him, you need to quit the drugs. The woman has had two surgeries since the show ended!! It’s not like she was faking the pain and the injury – and the screws in her neck combined with being 50. I’ve named two of his other partners who had NO shot of winning, one of which was fresh out of prison, and one who as a model who was seriously hated by most of the audience after her performance on that show that Maks was on. Challenges come in all shapes and sizes.
As for looking at the facts – you need to look at them, and hard. Those poor, poor pros who you say are treated unfairly because Derek gets all the good partners have all had just as many good partners as he has – in some cases MORE. I think you (and other like you who make similar arguments) are more biased than I could ever hope to be.
You could be right, Zach, but it’s still not enough for me to update the post. π
Aww Well I figured it wouldnt be. Shoot darn π
Some of my friends actually think I look like Shannon Elizabeth (I’d rather look like Cheryl Cole though, minus the shitty tattoos). I’m a few years older than Cheryl, a few years younger than Shannon…right in his wheelhouse….I’mma go git him. No, but really, he’s a darling guy and I’d be fine just keeping it platonic. Be much more difficult for me to keep my hands off of Jonathan though, yowza. I just watched that video of him and Anna talking about Valentines and it made me all twitterpated. I think I have a thing for seemingly happily married men that make me laugh, dance well, and have dark hair and a great smile (that I would never act upon, of course with a married dude). My daughter has a crush on both Derek and Mark, if that makes for one in Marks’ camp π Now Maks, I’d take him in as a challenge, we’d probably kill each other though in the process! π Boy this is a fun way to avoid doing work.
I don’t think they are poor poor pros who get treated unfairly. But seriously, get real. All of Derek’s partners had a great shot at winning. They were all either young, fit, or had previous experience. And prison doesn’t really affect somebody’s dancing ability. But he’s never had a Kate, or a Bristol, or a Kelly. I’m sorry, but I can’t honestly believe that if Derek had Kate or Bristol that they would’ve performed 10x better just because they had him coaching them. And in my opinion, Derek isn’t the best pro. It’s obvious that he’s used to having partners who are at least halfway decent when he loses his patience with Jennifer after just learning the steps. He’s only 25, and there are other pros that are much older, have much more experience, and are better teachers. Like Louis for instance, look what he did with Kelly. And he was also nominated for an Emmy for one of his choreographies.
I’m not wasting any more time with you after this, John. Sorry – but YOU used the word “fair” in your first comment. No backing out now. YOU get serious – if the audience perception (good and bad) doesn’t have as much impact as dancing, then how did Ty, Bristol and Kelly get to the semi-finals or finals?? Hence, Lil’ Kim and Joanna having no shot at winning for coming in with people viewing them negatively.
Most rational people I know think you’re dead wrong. But I understand you have to support your favorites. That doesn’t make your argument more valid, however.
@Fig – I think you summed it up pretty well with regards to Tony. We may never know the full story of how their marriage works, but I’ve heard the same rumor about Tony enough to wonder if it might have some merit to it. Don’t get me wrong, Tony is (usually) a very nice guy and has gained a lot of respect in the ballroom world, and he seems to absolutely gush about his family on Twitter, but, like many men, he is human, and may be prone to temptations of the flesh. I think it’s very possible for a man to love his wife deeply but still stray. I also heard my boyfriend mention that Tony had an arranged marriage back in Albania, which may have something to do with him maybe not being 100% faithful. Nobody’s perfect, I guess.
And speaking of nobody being perfect – John, I’ve taken multiple lessons with Corky over the years, and I can say that he is sometimes the very nice guy you mention above – but he can also be a bona fide asshole. As I’m sure everyone can from time-to-time – you never know what kind of mood you might catch someone in on a particular day, or what kind of facade someone might be putting up. Hell, I had my performance review at work back in October, and one of my bosses’ big critiques for me was that “you’re a woman of mercurial moods – we never know if we’re gonna see the calm, kind Courtney or the hostile, irritated Courtney!” Well guess what – no one has a perfect day everyday, and no one is going to be able to be all sunshine and rainbows 24-7-365. Maybe you caught Derek on a particularly stressful day, and maybe Mark was just in a good mood. Maybe Corky was faking being good-natured, who knows. I just don’t think you can really get an accurate read of someone’s true nature from only seeing them once in a fleeting moment. As for the ol’ hackneyed “Derek gets all the good partners and it’s unfair!” argument – so what? The show is not fair. Life is not fair. Half of the really “good” partners he’s gotten have asked for him specifically – it would not surprise me if TPTB agreed to give some of the bigger names that have done the show their requested partner in order to secure them for a particular season. Clearly Nicole & Jen saw something in Derek they liked & respected, so he must not be completely without talent if he caught their eye. As for him not getting any “challenging” partners – I don’t think Jennie, Shannon, Lil Kim, or Joanna were exactly shoo-ins for the win. Jennie, Shannon, & Joanna were not natural movers, and Joanna had a bit of a bad rep to contend with; Kim may have had a dance background, but she was also a recently-parolled convict. Did it ever occur to anyone that the reason that it looks like Derek seems to “always gets the good partners” is that he’s JUST THAT GOOD at hiding his partner’s weaknesses and showcasing their strengths? Somehow, I think Derek could get an ill-behaved orangutan as a partner, somehow make it look like a good dancer, and would STILL get called out for “always getting the good partners”. I can hear it now: “IT’S SO UNFAIR!!! Derek got that orangutan and [insert pro here] had to deal with Britney Spears and her crappy dance skills! UGH!” I’ve also seen other pros get good partners and totally blow it when it came to snagging the trophy – Maks with Mel B. Dmitry with Mya. Cheryl with Gilles. Having a decent partner may help a certain pro get further in the competition, but when it comes down to it, it’s not a guarantee that a certain pro is gonna win. They gotta be able to pull the proverbial trigger when it counts.
I think people simply get resentful of people that win all the time. They think it should be a thing that is spread around. I can’t say that I blame them, because as a huge baseball fan I see that many people hate the Yankees (I cheer for a different team) cause of how often they’ve won and what a juggernaut they are…yet if you really look at the numbers, they’ve had their share of dry spells too. They’ve won the WS more than any other team, but they’ve had to battle through decades of not winning a damn thing. Yet I know so many people that are just hearing about how great New York is. So I get it. People want other pros than Derek to win…but he’s had his tough, challenging years too. They just seem to forget about those. For me, I just want to see good routines, fun celebs, good teaching, and some entertainment value from my pros. Derek just happens to deliver that a lot more than many π
No, you’re dead wrong. You’re just biased because of his good looks. It’s OBVIOUS why Bristol got to the finals, and Kelly got there because she deserved it. Joanna and Lil Kim had a great shot at winning based on their scores, as all of Derek’s partners have. He’s popular so the producers give him the best partners so he will stick on the longest, it’s obvious.
I don’t know if you remember this Courtney, but when Derek got Lil’ Kim the people who are not Derek fans rejoiced saying “finally he gets someone who will go home early” (keep in mind that he had only won ONCE at this point)!!!! And as the season progressed it turned into “Damn, Derek always gets a good partner”!!! Not to mention that Lil’ Kim left Derek cooling his heels for HOURS while she took her time getting to rehearsal. Then the exact same thing happened with Joanna: “Finally, Derek gets a partner who is not only a model who can’t dance, but who is universally reviled!!!” which then turned into, again, “Damn, Derek always gets good partners.” Like the producers are psychic and can tell who all the good ones are going to be. LOL. I think they tried on both those occassions to give him someone who would leave early and – well, he’s just that good.
And John blows his last shred of credibility….
Yeah I distinctly recall the talk of both Lil Kim and Joanna – how Derek finally got celebs that would make him exit early. Too bad he’s so amazing at covering up weaknesses and playing up strengths. I’m confident that Nicole would have made it to the finals without him, but if she had been with anyone else I am guessing that Evan would have had a better shot. Same with Jennifer Grey, and ABSOLUTELY the same with Brooke. I’m guessing a week six exit for Brooke if she’s with Tony. Maybe eight. But certainly no trophy against Lance Bass and Warren Sapp, two bigger personalities. And I’m betting if Brandy, Mel B, Stacy Kiebler, or Mya had been with him that there’s a good chance they would have won. It’s all hypothetical, because maybe there’s SOME people out there that just wouldn’t have worked as well with him because of the kind of partner they had (I honestly think that although Mark did a lot of distractions with his dancing (which were annoying) that he may have been one of the few pros to handle Bristol as well as was done). Same with Louis and Kelly…sometimes the relationship is just the exact right fit for what they need.
I just read that Maksim isn’t gonna be back this season because he’s on the Ukranian version of the Bachelor.
Wow, you really ARE an insider.
Well like I said we all have our own opinions so lets leave it at that.
Wow you guys are mean around here…. I was just trying to help.
Ok…so we can’t forget that in some cases the celebrities pick their partners. For example, I remember reading somewhere that Jennifer wanted Derek as her partner or she wouldn’t dance on the show.
Just chiming in, when Alec and Edyta came and did a workshop and show, they answered a few questions after their workshops. One of the questions that was asked was if the producers were biased or something and that certain pros get better partners. Eventually the question was geared towards someone asking if Derek got better picks on purpose. They answered saying that sometimes the pros get lucky with who they get and sometimes they don’t. In the case of Derek, they said that he happens to be really talented and great choreographer and that he doesn’t get “favoritism” from the producers, etc. In fact, they said that Joanna was expected to be an early exit by the producers, but Derek transformed her and made her more personable to the audience and not what everyone thought she was, plus she was not a bad dancer at all. I used to be one that thought Derek got lucky all the time, but the truth of the matter is, he’s just that talented in terms of teaching and choreography. The only thing I would say is that he is so driven, that sometimes when things don’t go his way, he kind of panics and tries to do other things and sometimes it can strain his celebrities when they don’t get what he wants. BUT he is extremely talented and a great teacher π
I know that Derek is very talented and he is a great teacher. But as a person, well not so much.
Sorry, I can be a bit snarky at times. It was meant jokingly because it’s all over everywhere that Maks did the Ukraine bachelor (but it’s already done filming). Voguerista I heard Nicole requested Derek as well. Kelly requested a switch to Louis (or it may have just been NOT MARK) because of her boyfriend not wanting her to be with a young single guy. For some celebs I’m sure they’ll try to accomodate. Others, you take what you get. But honestly, I don’t really watch the show for who wins a MBT…sure I’m glad for the couples I like to get further along and be rewarded for them time and effort…but some celebs HAVE to know they don’t have a shot at winning (hello, Buzz) but instead want to take a chance at doing something different or out of their comfort zone and it can really pay off in terms of increasing their fan base, exposure, or just having a unique experience. Some of my favorite dances and couples haven’t been that great (Stevo, for instance) but I enjoyed watching them anyway. I’ve said this a million times before, but it may be because I don’t vote that I feel less invested in who wins or doesn’t, but I think it also contributes to my overall peace with whatever the outcome is. Sure I would rather have had Brandy in the final than Bristol, but honestly Brandy probably got way more exposure by not making it than coming in 2nd or 3rd.
One can acknowledge Derek’s considerable talent and his considerable blond boyish good looks without being fond of the young man himself. As I do. I had always found his ways cocky and bordering on smarmy, but the night when Brooke won the trophy and he grabbed it before she could get her hands on it … well.. that bugged me. I just can’t like Derek himself and maybe I am a little harder on the things he does when the camera is in the neighbourhood because of that. I’ll admit it. But I also find Jonathan has the personality of a wet dishrag contrary to many of the rest of you. π
I can only assume that the papfest he’s had to put up with since this whole Cheryl Cole thing has had some affect on him, I mean, come on, the boy’s human.
I think a lot of simmering Derek dislike bubbled over thanks to the Nicole partnering. I know it sharpened my dislike of him and that might not be fair, but it is what it is. You know… it’s kind of the same thing I find I dislike in Justin Bieber. Anyway, we all have our favorites for whatever reason and we shouldn’t get snappy with each other over it. But we do. *g* We’re human too.
I agree, and at the time it was Kelly’s fiance lol. But I did read an article saying that Maks would not be back this season because he’s filming the Bachelor. So is that false? I know he’s in NYC now, so I don’t know. But I also read that because of what happened between him and Carrie Ann last season, the producers don’t want him back.
whatafight… =p
I really tried to read everything… but you all are fast… ahahahha
I like derek, and if he’s cocky, he is not as cocky as maksim.
I wanna see if maksim wins… he will not le his partner even look to the mbt
LOL
I love Derek. I see him as the guy next door type. I don’t see him as snotty or the partying type with the dance, health, and work ethic he has either.
And I love when you Guys talk about him and Joanna too. <3 <3 My ultimate fave DWTS couple ever <3 <3 I know it's hard to accept for some and I'm not going to say Derek is the best dancer because that can be subjective and they all give it in that department. But he really is the best dance teacher, choreographer, and competitive dancer on the planet and in seperate realm of his own (IMO).
I had heard lots of negative things about Joanna but I actually really enjoyed their partnership. I think he and Lil Kim were great too. Nicole annoyed me a bit but she was undeniably talented. That 50’s Paso still astounds me.
ageed about the 50′ paso, fig.
best pro-star dance of all seasons to me.
I liked Derek and Jennifer, and Jennifer really is a sweet woman. I’m so proud of her for fighting through the pain. But my all time favorite couple has to be Kelly and Louis. They were amazing together.
Evaine – The Justin Bieber comparison cracked me up. π Thanks for that. I also learned a new word, smarmy, which I will have to use sometime.
I honestly like all of the pros, and I’m not just saying that to avoid a confrontation. Sure, I like some more than others, but I appreciate all of them and what they bring to the show. Then again, I’m relatively new to the show so maybe that will change as I see more of them. :p
I really don’t think anybody here can truly know what any one of the pros is really like unless he/she is very close to said pro. There are people I see and interact with every day and I don’t even know what they are like. People wear masks, or something like that. Haha does anyone know what quote I’m trying to refer to?
Anyway, *very* interesting discussion! Can’t wait for the new season… Crossing my fingers for Jonathan and Karina, as well as others who are more likely to be back.
let’s get back on topic
DWTS is looking for videos of Shirley. Do u think they’re considering her somehow?
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Well, Jennifer, we were never actually OFF topic, but damn, I have to give you credit for a DAMN good find!!! At first I was like, “so what, Shirley is looking for old pics” then I saw where she was wanting them sent!! I don’t know what to do with this information. It could mean a lot of things. Girl – you good.
I went out and spent an obscene amount of money and then I went out to play and I see you all were busy in my absence. I only have one thing to say – it cracks my ass UP when Maks fans say they find Derek cocky and arrogant. LOL!!!! OMFG – that’s a good one. These guys – Derek, Maks all of them – are some of the best in their field. They have earned the right to some ‘tude – I have never found either one of them to go too far in that department and way too many people confuse CONFIDENCE with arrogance and that has always annoyed me. People just can’t make fine distinctions any more. All black and white, no shades of grey. For example, me and Courtney being labeled Maks haters for picking on some of his actions. Come on people – I Loved Maks during his season with Mel B, and I’m digging him with Misty May – but when ANYONE starts pointing fingers at other couples and talking smack that is blatantly hypocritical, I’m going to comment on it. And Maks has done far too much of that. Not to mention that he seems to choke on the freestyles. My one complaint for Derek is that he is too damn PC – he never fights back. Ever since his blow up in Season 6 he’s been too careful. Damn, boy, tell Tony he’s full of shit when he’s talking smack about you and Nicole. Although Louis was the worst offender. Derek would be perfect in my world – always PC, managing everything just right.
People see what they want to see – and often they see reflected back at them what they are projecting out to someone.
Maks was just joking on Twitter that he finds it amusing that people know more than he does about what he’s doing – I think that was in direct response to the Extra bullshit about him not being on the show. I just don’t believe they would willingly lose both Maks and Derek in one season. I also don’t think that Carrie Ann has that much pull that smarting off to her would get him the boot – Maks has more pull than she does. She’s just a judge – she could be easily replaced by Shirley Ballas….wait a second. π If a pro were going to get the boot because of Carrie Ann, Tony and Derek would have been gone long ago.
John – we are extremely snarky and sarcastic on this site. More blunt than mean. I don’t see that changing. Just FYI.
No most people are very nice and polite on this site, except for you. And FYI, I’m not that big of a Maks fan.
*LOL* Heidi, if I’m one of the Maks fans you are referring to, I never called Derek “arrogant”. Cocky, yes. Smarmy too. Just my opinion. I also called him considerably talented and good-looking. Maks is DEFINITELY arrogant and you know what? I like it on him. *g* And really, there’s nothing wrong with being cocky if that appeals to you. In this case it doesn’t to me. Like I might assume that arrogance doesn’t to you. That’s all. π
As for the Extra bit, you know they didn’t really SAY Maks wasn’t coming back due to the Ukrainian Bachelor, they offered up the possibility (wrapped up like a done deal) but then at the end of the report or whatever you want to call it, they tossed it all back in question.
What I thought listening to it, was that they’d been reading the threads here on the board and taken their reporting, their assumptions of IN and OUT directly from these threads. *LOL* In all honesty, we didn’t learn a single new fact from the whole thing.
Now the Shirley thing is VERY interesting. Maybe Carrie Anne is too wrapped up with her new show to devote time to DWTS this season? (Awwwwww!) But sweet JESUS, I’d hate to be in those pros shoes (so many that she’s trained over the years) when it comes to critique time! Especially Mark! Can you imagine??? YIKES!!!
And as for actually dancing… why not have a more mature lady to dance with a mature man? Could be very interesting!
Y’all too quick for me, so bear with me while I respond to some of the stuff brought up since my last post…which seems like decades ago in PureDWTS years, hehe π
On pros being cocky: I’ve come to find that dance teachers, especially ones that have competed themselves at one time or another, tend to be a bit cocky by nature…even my boyfriend is prone to it from time to time. They fancy themselves artists, as well as experts in their field, and if they’ve got trophies & titles to back it up with – even better. Of course they’re going to come across as a bit arrogant from time to time, because this is kinda their “thing”, and it’s going to be even more evident when their work is under attack. Think about Maks, Derek, & Tony all mincing words with Carrie Ann on a few occasions – she takes a swipe at their work (“Too much fooling around!” or “I saw a lift!” or “The choreography didn’t showcase your partner!”), and they rush to defend it, because they take pride in it. And really, a bit of arrogance is almost necessary in their field – it’s actually something to be desired in the character of a male Latin dancer out on the floor. He’s gotta be cool, cocky, flashy, & slick. Who wants to watch a wimpy guy with absolutely no confidence or stage presence? If a little bit of ‘tude spills off the floor, so be it – all part of the bravado.
As for Shirley – if she’s replacing Carrie Ann the twit, I have died & gone to heaven π The woman scares the sh*t outta me, but I’ve got mad respect for her craft. If she’s gomna be a judge, she may be even tougher than Len – girl doesn’t hold any punches. And I doubt she’d waste time on frivolities like “lift policing”. Oh yeeeeah! π
Oh, and Fig, you can have Jonathan π While I adore he & Anna, as I’ve said before, I kinda have a hard time swooning over any of the male pros on the show because I have my very own π But if I had to pick, I guess I’d say I like Damian the best because he looks the most like my bf. Plus he’s just chill, which I dig.
I don’t think you people understand where I was coming from calling Derek A BIT cocky and arrogant. I meant in real life, with NO cameras, and just in general as a person. I don’t know if its because he’s only 25 or if the fame went to his head, but Derek is a little arrogant, and I know this for a fact. It’s no big deal. In life some people are nice and some are not so nice. And there are other pros on the show who are extremely nice and not so full of themselves.
Still Evaine – people see what they want/expect and have little to no distinction between confidence and arrogance or cockiness – I find that disturbing because it is so prevalent now. And equating all those words and THEN making them pejorative? Well that’s almost obscene. Not that you were doing that – but it happens here often enough that you come to expect it. And no, actually, I find Maks’ arrogance charming when he keeps his comments limited to himself and his partner. As soon as he starts pointing fingers at other couples, then it becomes class-less. And he’s not the only one with that problem. I will never like Louis again for his asinine comments. AS IF he would have won if Nicole weren’t on the show. Puh-lease, boyfriend. Get a clue.
I didn’t see the Extra thing, but I saw all the chatter on Twitter – and it would not surprise me in the slightest if they were culling info from blogs – the American press is far, FAR better than the UK press (although they’ve set the bar so low that’s not saying much) but they still have some fatal flaws. And do you want to guess how many blogs copy ideas off this one?? LOTS. I can say that because we’ve been doing things like Pro Watch for a few seasons now and suddenly…there are others.
Yeah, there were a few people assuming that Mark would be the favorite, but I think it would be exactly opposite if Shirley were a judge. Bet she calls him on over dancing his partner. Can I just add that I’m in the middle of watching season 7 for my judges thing and his over dancing of Kim K was painful to watch.
Yep, Courtney’s own pro is pretty hot. I’ve seen pictures. π
Thanks love π I am indeed one very, very lucky girl.
John, the reason no one pays attention to what you say is that you are too anxious to sell it. The more often you try to sell us on “insider” status, the more likely I am to think you are to be full of shit. π I should check your IP address to make sure you aren’t a sock puppet, in fact, with how badly you are trying to sell it.
BTW – isn’t it clear yet that we don’t care what you think of the pros??? Get a clue!!
I suggested Shirley as a judge or pro even a long time ago…I wonder if it’s happening!!! I’d love to see her as a pro with an older guy, since we’ve had Corky. I am shocked to realize that she may actually be on there…and wow she’d be a tough judge (I actually don’t mind any of the judges, even if I don’t think they are always consistent they usually entertain me…but I do think CA is less valuable than the other two). I agree that Mark may actually be at a disadvantage if she was a judge. But I haven’t heard ANYTHING about CA leaving the show so maybe it’s more likely that she’d be a pro. But who knows!?!!
Ahh and as far as Jonathan goes, I joke about it but really, but I don’t have real celebrity crushes, as in, I dream about them…only appreciate their good qualities. I have a boyfriend that is seriously the nicest guy in the world (without being a pushover) that I love to pieces – a terrible dancer, but I have dated a couple of those and yes…they were arrogant as hell, I do think it comes with the territory! His two left feet are part of his charm and I wouldn’t trade him for the world…well…maybe Justin Theroux is the one exception. My bf knows he’d be in for a challenge if Justin and I happened to bump into Justin walking down the streets of NYC, we’d get to talking about writing, fashion, films, and stuff and then KABLAAAM, he’s mine.
Okay I want to chime in on this “Derek gets the ringers/is a jerk” conversation if that’s okay.
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OMG!!!! Why does everyone hate on Derek?!?! I’m sorry but I think it boils down to jealousy. I will exclude anyone on this site, and go on what I’ve seen on other sites. Everyone says he always gets the good ones. It’s not fair….bla bla bla! He never gets a bad partner…bla bla bla. If he never gets a bad partner, that to me, doesn’t say ringer, it says to me that Derek is one GOOD instructor! Even though Nicole was and still is my favorite contestant on the show, I want to discuss Lil’ Kim. Did anyone really think she was a ringer at the beginning? I knew she was good, but I was biting my nails EVERY week because I worried she’d go home. But Derek and her had some of the best chemistry I’ve seen on the show. She really had a good light and he gave her some of the best choreography in my opinion that season.
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As for the “he’s a jerk” theory. How would you like it if you were a private person who hmm…doesn’t want to talk to the paparazzi, gets slammed with questions that are frankly none of their business. I’ve seen paparazzi footage of Derek. Just because he doesn’t answer doesn’t make him a jerk. He doesn’t want to talk to the paparazzi, FINE! LET HIM BE!!!!! SHEESH! Plus, the REAL Derek is shown in rehearsals. He is nice, driven and sometimes hardcore in training. And sometimes the editors make him look like he’s mean (Look at Nicole, Jennifer & Brooke) but Derek is smart and has something called TWITTER where he warns when he feels something might be portrayed incorrectly as in the whole package is of he and his partner arguing. I remember when he would upload videos himself of he and Nicole having fun in rehearsals in case the packages were misleading, therefore he is covering his own back EVEN THOUGH HE DOESN’T HAVE TO!!!
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Okay, venting over. Any word on Anna Trebunskaya?
Nathan, if you’re waiting for Anna to spill if she’s on the show or not, you’ll be waiting a long time. π Of course, now that I’ve said this she’ll talk – that’s how it goes sometimes. But seriously, the very MOST she has said prior to the announcement is “I don’t say anything until it is absolutely sure.” And I can so totally hear “cute Russian accent” when she types it out on twitter. Kinda weird. π
No one is required to be nice to paparazzi and NO ONE – anywhere – who is downright nasty to a paparazzi is going to get me on their bad side. Those people are parasites and some of the ugliest people on the planet. In what universe is it acceptable to follow Joe Jonas everywhere he goes with cameras and yell out random questions about his sexuality??? And I don’t even CARE about Joe Jonas, but that made me angry. Derek and Cheryl were driving in Derek’s car in LA and they ran out in front of his car so they could take pictures through the windshield. Are you kidding me?? When has it become a character flaw to ignore people who have nothing better to do than follow your every move and harass you so they can sell the pictures for thousands of dollars?? You know how much money they make if someone like Joe Jonas goes apeshit and takes a swing at them?? A bloody fortune. Same goes with Derek and Cheryl. Yes, Pap Henry seems like a nice guy – but he is the exception, not the rule and if Derek doesn’t feel like talking to the paps anymore good for him. They are making plenty of money off him even without him talking.
Fig…KABLAAAM??? Yer crackin me up. π
I don’t see why anyone is required to be nice or polite to the paparazzi. Geez, which paparazzi can a person trust these days to not print the truth and sensationalize? If I was a star, I wouldn’t want to talk with them either. I agree with Heidi too for how they are a dangerous lot (IE; Princess Diana). I wouldn’t be comfortable talking with just any strangers either. So, in no way could I hold that against any of them or let that decide who they are.
Such great replies everyone!
I would LOVE it if Shirley was dancing or judging too!!!!
Shirley replaceing Carrie Ann??? Oh know break the tissue boxes…Sure hope I dont use to many so I dont wreck the Amazon Rain Forest and then Al Gore gets TO’d. π
That would be break out the tissue boxes. Even though I might break some if i have to put with Christine O’donnel, Maks, AND Carrie Ann. π
Shirley replacing Carrie Ann?
WOW I DO HOPE SO!!!
\o/ amazing!!!!
Heidi, what asinine comments did Louis make?
And you seem to care about my comments on the pros when you keep bringing it up over and over. I’ve tried to end this multiple times already. We all have our own opinions.
And unlike most of you, I’ve seen Derek when the cameras aren’t rolling. And about the paparazzi, most of the pros are always very generous and kind to them, except for Derek.
Tony just retweeted someone saying that “it’s gonna be nice to have him back in the ballroom in a month…” I don’t know if this is a reliable source or not.
Blah blah blah…Derek is so mean….blah blah blah. Guess what? Still don’t care and the more you say that the less I believe it. You pimp yourself too much – in fact, I bet you ARE a paparazzi. LOL. Don’t mistake a good conversation between regulars on this site as caring about YOUR opinion. It’s called discussion – and you don’t get to call an end to it when ever you want. Sorry.
As for Louis, he has sounded like a jealous bitch when talking to the media time after time after time the last couple seasons – all you have to do is watch a lot of the non-mainstream media or Pap video (LOL). We’ve discussed it multiple times here on this very site. “It’s so not fair that Nicole…” blah blah blah blah. Big baby.
And again – see my comments about paparazzi. Good for Derek. The rest of them act like freakin’ famewhores to people who will turn on them in a second if they manage to find their own version of Cheryl Cole. Preach is some where else, Johnny boy.
Dear John – you’ve been edited. No name calling allowed when you don’t like someone’s opinion. Much love, Heidi.
P.S. Keep it up and I’ll make it so you can’t post at all.
What? That’s not fair. She’s been taunting me this whole time and called me a big baby. Do you not call that name calling? I’ve asked her to stop, but she won’t.
I understand her opinion, I’ve said we all have our own opinions. She is being rude because she doesn’t like my opinion. And she doesn’t even know what she’s talking about. I live in LA and I’ve worked backstage on DWTS. I know what these pros are like in real life.
Well, let’s just say, I can see why you don’t work backstage at DWTS anymore (if that’s even true).
And I saw what you wrote above to Heidi too and it wasn’t cool at all.
I still work there on occasions. I was on a lot during seasons 9 and 10 and I was only there for weeks 1 and 2, rock week, and the finale in season 11.
And how about her rudeness towards me? I can only take so much taunting, and I’ve asked to end it multiple times. I guess she’s just the princess around here and can do whatever she wants.
John, “she” is ME. I am the one who edited you. And the only thing I called you was a “paparazzi”- I do agree that was an insult and I appologize. LOL. If you call disagreeing with you and pointing out your logic flaws taunting and rude – well, you will never be happy here. This ain’t a democracy. And you don’t get to call a “stop”. We talk as long as we want to talk.
I called LOUIS a big baby – which, since he’s a public figure speaking to the media, I am allowed to do. You might want to read more carefully.
Guess what – you’ve told us 15 thousand times that you’re an insider. Guess what else? We still don’t care (and like Vogue, I don’t think I actually believe you). Just because YOU don’t like Derek but LOVE Louis doesn’t mean it’s *Derek* that has the problem here. Do you understand that at all?? Your opinion on these people is just an opinion that is affected by your own biases. Doesn’t make it a FACT. Fact is a word that gets thrown around a lot by people to make their own opinion sound more valid. Lots of people HATE Barack Obama and think he’s not a citizen of this country – even guys who work with him on a regular basis say this kind of crap. Does that make it a FACT??? Of course not. Which is why your love for Louis and your disdain for Derek is just not that important. We don’t know you from Adam. For all we know, you could be a crazy guy who got thrown off the lot.
Oh, by the way – since I work here, I CAN tell you to move on. Do so now, or I will force the issue. You aren’t fun any more.
Yes, I can do whatever I want. That’s why my posts are in green. Last warning.
See all of us writing in tan, John? That means we actually write for this site…and yeah, that pretty much gives us a “do whatever we want” pass, which includes editing, deleting, and blocking commentors that spam or start flinging insults. Not quite sure why you’re trying to ram it down our throats that you “worked on the show” and “know these pros personally”. Are you able to offer proof of this somehow? And what’s off-putting about what your posting is that you’re taking something that is personal opinion – “Derek is a jerk” – and shoving it in everyone’s faces as fact, and refusing to let anyone be that disagrees with you. We call people out on this every single season – it’s the kind of “I can proclaim this as fact and no one can tell me otherwise!” mentality that runs rampant on the ABC boards, and around here, we like to think of ourselves as being a bit more logical (and educated) than that. You think Derek is a jerk? Fine. That’s your opinion. But claiming to have worked on the show to somehow lend creedence to that and prove other people wrong? Kinda lame.
I don’t care who “started it”, but just let it go already. You think Derek’s a jerk; Heidi thinks Louis is a jerk. You’re at an impasse. Move on. And if you chose not to, then I’ll treat any more comments as spam and delete them altogether – this has gone on long enough and is beginning to deter anyone else from jumping onto the thread to comment. Fair warning.
Ok, I’ll just wrap it up now. I don’t think Derek is a jerk, and if I said that before, then I apologize to him and to everyone who read that. And I’m not in love with Louis, I just think he’s a nice man like many of the pros and he’s done a lot to help our society. And I don’t understand why he is being called a big baby and I would like some proof of the alleged asinine comments he made.
From what I’ve seen with my own eyes around Hollywood, I believe Derek is a little arrogant at times, but still a very talented man and I’ve always said he was. And I would like to see him get somebody on DWTS that would present him with a true challenge. That’s all. Regardless of what I’ve said before, this is what I truly mean.
I am sorry for all the fighting. I hope it will end now. π
What one views as a little arrogance is in the eye of the beholder. I thought at times all of the pros including ones you felt were nice like Corky, Louis, Mark and Tony were full of themselves. I also think one person’s nice is another person’s “fake” just like a person being aloof can be a jerk. People who have spent hours with the pros, celebs, only speak positively of all the pros including Derek.
I still disagree that Derek was never presented a challenge. Challenges come in different sizes. I think what upsets people more is that Derek never left the competition early so that means he only gets good partners. None of his partners were going to win even if they were better than expected. It wasn’t the same thing as getting Donny or Kristi. Mark, Maks and Tony’s favorable pairings have been mentioned. Steve said the show didn’t expect Derek to last long with Joanna so Derek is punished because he did a good job teaching? I am curious to see who Mark, Maks, Tony and Louis get this season. What excuse will be used if they don’t win? It was a conspiracy to have a male celeb win?
Melissa, that’s a good one! That will get people talking if a male celebrity wins! It was a conspiracy against Maks, Tony and Mark! *eye roll* LOL
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If a male celebrity wins, I hope he is paired with either Cheryl or my girl, Anna T! π
All I meant by that was Derek has never gotten somebody really bad like Kate or Bristol. And if you’re thi, or young, its much more easier to dance then if you’re heavy or old.
All I meant by that was Derek has never gotten somebody really bad like Kate or Bristol. And if you’re thin or young, its much more easier to dance then if you’re heavy or old.
Bristol is neither heavy of old. Kate isn’t heavy or old either. Mark’s partners have been younger than Derek’s. Maks and his oldest partner is still younger than Jennifer.
A male celeb winner paired with Anna T? Or Cheryl? Sounds good to me. Any of the female pros winning would be great!
Just saw these comments! Jennifer, you retweeted my tweet to Peta π
http://twitter.com/#!/kanitydane1014/status/39126169127354368
I HOPE that Peta and Damian are on the show!! She’s amazing, and we need a new couple!
I won’t be voting for any of the male pros unless they get someone amazing – well, maybe Damian. He’s a little cutie and I liked him with Pam.
I would like to see Anna T or Cheryl win. Yeah, Cheryl’s won twice but it’s been years. Chelsie would be good too. Kym won with her own special ringer not that long ago, but I love her too. Girl power!!
FWIW, I checked Shirley’s facebook and she said a categorical NO to her being a new pro on the show. So, it’s something else…like judging?? She also implied that she will be making Derek and Mark cook for her tomorrow for a family dinner. She’s a brave woman if she eats anything those two cook up. I’m thinking we might get a Mark hint tonight or tomorrow – or a Shirley hint. Maybe if they are all at dinner they will get careless with the tweeting. π
Hey guys!
Nice to be back in swing of things here at Pure DWTS! Well, those of you who might’ve seen me before commenting on different articles, you might know that I am a huge fan of Kym. I read someone’s comment about Kym going to Portland and they didn’t know why. That is correct. Kym flew to Portland yesterday and I BELIEVE she is flying back either tonight or tomorrow. All I know is she’s not in Portland for long. The reason for her Portland trip? I have her on facebook and follow her on twitter so you would need to keep watching her twitter if you already follow her. She was in Portland shooting a commercial for the new DWTS hair extensions. She has been doing A LOT of promotions for the hair extensions since December, appeared on Home Shopping Network and a few ULTA stores. So she went to promote more by going to Portland to shoot a commercial but last she said about Portland on facebook, she’s not there much longer and she was there to just shoot a commercial but said nothing about DWTS.
Kym never says anything about DWTS before they announce the pairs. That’s the type of professional she is so I won’t be surprised if we get no hints at all before the pairings announcement…. although I figured out her clue before season 11 but this time, she said nothing at all. Far as I know, she has nothing else planned coming up soon and she said that she wished she could stay in Portland which means she can’t so to me, that means she’s coming back to LA. She was already in Australia to visit family and friends during Christmas and New Year so I don’t think she plans to go back this soon. That’s all I know. Far as I know, she doesn’t have other upcoming plans right now. π
Oh as for Lacey, I think on twitter she has said she and her brother Benji were doing something in March as an opening but I can’t remember what it is. So I’m not sure if Lacey is coming back or not.
i don’t “gender” my chooses…
I can even vote for maksim and his partner if he dances well.
I like anna t, too, but i’m not a big fan as you all. I preffer the other girls… as chelsie and lacey…
please girls… leave john… if he says he works/worked on dwts and saw some bad things about derek in person, live, it’s him, it’s just one opinion… his opinion.
I will not deslike derek because of it. particularly, i’ve seen some rude behaviours of derek to brooke, joanna, kym on rehearsal videos… but all this were worked out… none of this women have something bad to say about him… derek is an intense and passionate person, we all know this
Carlos… Derek has been rude to Kym??? Or did you mean Lil Kim?
sorry, liz… lil’ kim =]
tnx for help =]
Thank you Carlos, and I’m pretty sure I’ll be there again this season, so I’m really excited. π
I can’t imagine that, if you really work at DWTS John, they would be thrilled with some of the stuff you’ve said on here. I know that other people who work on the show also read here and your level of unprofessional behavior would likely turn them way off. Remember you’ve blathered on and on about working on the show…but none of us do the same about what WE know. Just saying you might want to be more careful in the future. I suggest you cut it out.
As for you Carlos – you know very well that if YOU came in here presenting opinion as FACT (like John has), and then make statements which you then try to deny (read ALL your posts again, John), you would get the same arguments as John has. Sorry, we have a low tolerance for stupidity.
Heidi: “I canβt imagine that, if you really work at DWTS John, they would be thrilled with some of the stuff youβve said on here. I know that other people who work on the show also read here and your level of unprofessional behavior would likely turn them way off.”
Exactly! I would think even the people working backstage in any way have to sign contracts to keep quiet. That is why I have such a hard time believing him.
Saw 2 interesting things on twitter over the last 48 hours:
Nastia Liukin is now following Mark Ballas but he is not following her back yet. Looks like this happened in the last few days. Makes sense since she is slightly older than Bristol.
Also, Vera Wang tweeted about “filming” something in LA right now that she can’t wait to share with everyone.
Since we’ve both of them in the ballroom in the past with their mutual friend Evan Lysacek, one or both seem possible to me.
No problem, Carlos! π
Thanks, Heather, was just coming to post that – so people really think that DEREK gets all the good partners? What a bunch of crap. Olympian (and win) number 3 for Mark Ballas.
I hope they bring Nadia Comaneci on the show as she is truly legendary in the gymnastics world. I remember she said she would love to do the show if asked, but that was a few seasons ago when she just finished Celebrity Apprentice. I do think DWTS would’ve been a much better show for her.
Okay John, feel persecuted all you want, but go read your posts up thread…and I quote “And when I say heβs not the nicest guy, I mean he has a bit of the hollywood cockiness and arrogance to him. And all he pretty much does is party, get drunk, and screw whatever girl he can find. And heβs rude to Henry, a paparazzi guy, whereas the other pros are not.”. That’s not just saying he’s rude to the paps. You further repeat yourself that he’s NOT a nice guy. That and your repeated insistence about Derek’s partners became a bit billigerent. Now, I will confess I think the folks here are a bit more defensive of Derek than other pros…but that’s probably due to him taking a lot more shit than the other pros do, most of it based on incorrect information and very biased opinions…I often find myself defending Derek for the same reasons…I hate the overkill of the “ringer” stuff that people seem to not be able to look past. So I tend to jump to his defense a little more than say…Maks, who I believe deserves some of the criticism he gets (although I like him too!). Anyway, you may have worked at DWTS but you may find out that throwing that information around on the internet is counterproductive to you keeping that work. There are others here that are affiliated with the show and you might find yourself on the outside looking in sooner than you’d like if you keep saying stuff like the example I posted here.
+1!!^^^^
Nice findings, Heither! =]
I still waiting for Sacramone on DwtS… hehehehe (she’s the hottest gymnastic in the world to me…) (6)
Here’s what DWTSGossip tweeted:
Pro Update – Dmirty and Kym are in. ( don’t ask how I know this) π 11 minutes ago via web
LOL, aww come on, tell us know you know! π
Hooray for Kym (love her and am envious of her bod)…but Dmitry??? Sorry, but boo. I just don’t care for him and I don’t know why. I’d rather Jonathan or Damian – hopefully both of them are in.
I’m taking that one with a grain of salt – anyone who can’t (or won’t) name their sources always makes me wonder what they’re trying to hide. Especially since they’re saying Dmitry is back – he always struck me as someone the producers brought in thinking he would be great, but he kinda blew it with quite possibly ringiest ringer that’s ever done the show (Mya). And since he’s been gone for 2 full seasons now – I just don’t know. I would think Damian stood a better chance of coming back than Dmitry. I think they need another laid-back, blonde surfer boy type to fulfill the spot left by Derek – I feel like Dmitry will forever be in Maks & Tony’s shadow as the hunky eastern European. If Kym is indeed back, cool. I kinda figured she probably would be, with all the promoting they’ve had her doing for those god-awful DWTS hair extensions! And yes, ladies, they are pretty bad – saw them at Ulta and they just look kinda cheap. Like Barbie hair. And they really only come in blonde & brown – raven-tressed & redheaded ladies (like myself) get shunned. FAIL!
But dwtsgossip has never given wrong info. I don’t think. It’s obvious she has access to inside info. She was right about Cheryl and Tony (way before they confirmed. )
lacey just twitted:
I’m so excited for the weeks to come. Slot of good things happening to me I feel so blessed. I really hope you guys enjoy….
think she’s in =]
I like dmitry. he’s creative and classic. Just hated that freestyle but liked other choreographies, specially mya’s salsa and that blond girl a. tango.
but derek did a better lambada, most similar to the one we dance (used to dance) here in Brasil =]
I don’t know, Maddy – I think Cheryl & Tony were pretty easy to call. There’s always going to be pros that you pretty much know will be back each season unless they specifically state otherwise – Cheryl, Tony, Maks, Mark, Chelsie, & Derek. Then there’s pros that seem to come and go based on what kind of pro partners are needed for celebrities – Kym, Karina, Lacey, & Louis. And then there’s the pros you see everyone once in awhile – Jonathan, Dmitry, & Ashly; and then there’s the one-time deal pros that we likely won’t see again – Jesse, Fabian, Andrea, Anna D., etc. Based on those patterns, you can usually make an educated guess about what a potential pro cast might look like. I’m just hoping that Damian hasn’t been relegated to the “one-time deal” pro group, but if Dmitry really is in this season then I think it greatly diminishes Damian’s chances – then again, maybe they’re aiming for another season with a massive cast. I don’t really like either prospect, but if having beacoup couples is the only way I can get Damian & Jonathan back, so be it. I just hope they aren’t trying to be cutesy and give Kendra to Dmitry to play on the fact that she & Holly were bff’s on Girls Next Door. Blech.
I dunno Maddy – I like DWTSGossip, but she gives wrong info on Derek all the time. She’s not infallible. I think she’s just going on the same things we’re going on for Cheryl and Tony – none of which are actual confirmations by the pros, but hints. I think she’s right about Kym – but I’m wondering if she meant to type Damian instead of Dmitry, for all the reasons Courtney stated.
Here’s the math, assuming she’s right and we’re right about our guesses:
Tony
Mark
Louis
Dmitry
That leaves two, MAYBE, three open spots for men. We have to assume Maks is in (please, god, at least he keeps things interesting) so that leaves ONE spot, maybe 2. I guess it’s possible to have both Dmitry and Damian – I keep forgetting about the Derek sized hole in the male roster.
Eeek, Carlos – Lacey is scaring me with her “good things” tweets and her tweet to Derek about being dance buddies.
Prays Damian is picked! What a shame if Dmitry was picked over Damian.
I totally agree, Vogue. I really liked what I saw of Damian with Pam and in the pro dances from last season. And just for the pure look of the show, we need a blond male!
Do we know how many couples we are having this season?
You could be right to take what DWTSGossip with a grain of salt all because they wouldn’t reveal the source, although I found it a bit strange. Wonder why she’s not revealing the source (if it’s true that Kym is back). I do agree with Maddy, I have found DWTSGossip to be reliable so far. If she was ever wrong, then I missed it. I’ve been following her for quite a while and I feel like she’s reliable. Also, Kym said on FB she “wish” she could stay in Portland which gave me the impression that Kym had to leave Portland because she had other plans and I would assume that with DWTS rehearsals starting so soon, she meant she had to get back to L.A. for DWTS. I’m not saying I think she’s definitely back based on what I’ve seen or that she confirmed because she didn’t. Kym never confirms so I wouldn’t be surprised if she doesn’t this time. I guess I just meant that all things I’ve seen points to a positive direction for her fans like me.
About the hair extensions, I’ve seen a lot of complaints about that too. Then I saw a lot of people loving it too. So I don’t know what’s up or how to fix it although I’ve heard some people got the wrong color or something. Well, I don’t know how to respond to the problem people have with the extensions because there are also many people who love it. There’s been mixed reviews. I saw the hair extensions on HSN and the hair, without a doubt, looked incredibly real!
Well anyway, hopefully DWTSGossip is right but I just wanted to post the update to let our writers know. π
Evaine! Exactly!!
I am definitely in the minority when it comes to Damian – he did nothing for me at all, less even than Dmitry. But so many people scream his praises that I wonder if I just let my hatred of his frosted spike tips offended me so much that I was blinded to his talents. But looks, choreography, style, personality – EVERYTHING was so blech to me. But I’m willing to keep an open mind if he’s back since I could be the bassakwards one.
As far as DWTS gossip goes – I think she is consistent enough to consider them a good, but not perfect source.
John, can YOU please stop already? I recall asking you nicely to do so yesterday. I don’t see where Heidi’s being “rude” again, considering the conversation has since moved on Dmitry and hair extensions. Let’s not rehash any drama, ok? Rise above.
This is their blog, they have every right to say what they want. Just like you have every right to close the browser, never to return!
@Liz – I have a bad case of hair OCD, so I may be a bit more critical of the extensions than others π But I don’t think the extensions are real human hair, so they tend to have that artificially glossy look to them that makes them stick out like a sore thumb against real hair. It also seems like most of the styles are limited to one very specific use (i.e. creating an updo, messy pony, bangs, etc.) and wouldn’t work well for just everyday hair – unless you wear those specific styles on an everyday basis π And of course I tend to get frustrated being a redhead (dyed, of course) in a blonde/brunette world…so few people make products for redheads. I lucked into finding a good set of real human hair clip-in extensions for a great price that match my hair and I put them in from time-to-time just to create volume. I imagine the DWTS extension line is a watered-down, cheapened-up version of what they actually use on the show, as the extensions I see there seem to be a great deal more “believable”.
John, John, John. We all got your point. Seriously, having the last word is not that important. Please. It’s no longer fun at all.
The time for asking John nicely is done. The end. I’ve had it with OTT people pointing their fingers at me. Take a look in the mirror folks. If you think this board is going to turn into ABC.com, you’ve got another think coming.
Oh Man, though DWTS Gossip did not reveal their source, I am sure bummed when I saw her mention Dmitry’s name. I was so hoping he wouldn’t be one of the Pros. Nothing against him, he just bores me and sad to think he might have a spot over Jonathan or Damian (who I think deserves another chance since he did great with Pam).
Well, Courtney, what to do with strawberry blonde hair?? π And mine is rather fine and naturally curly – which does give it volume, I confess.
Going back to Damian – I just think that he was terribly overshadowed by Pam and all her…glory. He’s a cute little blond guy with a cute accent, so I’d like to see him get another shot. I’m not saying he’s god’s gift to choreography or that he’s the second coming or anything – just that I’d like to see him again and see what he would do with someone else.
My dislike for Dmitry is completely irrational and inexplicable – I have no idea why I don’t care for him, just something about him rubs me the wrong way. If I figure it out, I’ll let you all know. π
LOL Heidi. Well, Courtney that is strange because they showed a lot of different hair styles on “Home Shopping Network.” The place you saw them at must’ve been limited, I don’t know. If you actually see them and watch the girls try them on, they seem to be incredibly real. Again, it’s just mixed reviews and I can understand your criticism if you’re pretty “OCD” about your hair.
I hope Damian returns but I’m not sure. It just seems like many pros who don’t return the following season don’t return at all. It is the pro’s job to showcase their celeb partner.
It seems that I’m the only one who preffers Dmitry than Damian… ahahahhah
Lacey just tweeted “I know something you don’t know haha!” Maybe she found out who her partner is? I know Louis finds out who his partner is tomorrow.
John, since you are an insider, do you know if the Faye, Vera or Nastia rumors are true?
ABC kept deleting my thread about who’s in and who’s out. Are you sure that you should be revealing who’s in and who’s not back? Wonder if that’s the reason why the thread keep getting deleted and if ABC was doing the deleting.
ABC has control over their own message boards, they have no control here unless we post material to which they own the copyright, at which time they can ask our provider to make us take it down. Yes, they were likely deleting your thread which, since it’s their board, they are free to do.
This is the United States, and at this time there is still freedom of speech and freedom of the press. For now…and as long as you don’t live in Wisconsin. π They only have control over their own sites and their own copyrighted material.
I know Vera initially turned down the offer, but I don’t know if she changed her mind, probably not. I don’t think the Nastia rumor is true. But I do think Faye will be on the season. I’m not 100% on anything, nobody knows anything yet except for the producers. They are really keeping everything under wraps this season.
Melissa – be aware that by John’s own admission he is an actuary and not involved in production. He’s a risk guy or an insurance dude – so he says. He is guessing about production just like the rest of us. And if he is not extremely careful about how he words his posts, and starts misleading people about his supposed role, then I will block him. I’m not going to have those kind of games around here. Word to the wise – take everything with a grain of salt, no matter who someone says they are. Other people who post here who have worked on the show have not made any of these mistakes and we are happy to have them.
For the record – I thought you were being sarcastic with your question. π Correct me if I’m wrong.
This discussion never ends… =/
Oh, it has ended now Carlos. I’ve had people telling me to ban John and I’ve been reluctant. Here is the problem – John could be ANYONE and he’s so anxious to famewhore that it makes me suspicious. Then he overstates his role in the show to give himself an inflated sense of importance. He helped with microphones??? And he only gives that much up when pressed. I will not have a microphone assistant continuing to mislead people who come to the site. I deal with too much of that on other fansites and it ain’t happening here.
ETA: Responding to Melissa as if he had the remote possibility of actually knowing who was in and who was out was the final straw.
Heidi, yeah, I’m sorry I wanted to say earlier that I just realized after my last post here that ABC probably deleted it because revealing whether the pros are in or out was supposed to be a secret (that’s my understanding) but the pros don’t always listen and they blab about their statuses on the show anyway. I think that’s why it was deleted so that makes sense.
Um… I didn’t want to jump in with the whole thing with John since it’s not my website and I know we got moderators like Heidi already but if everyone wanted this to end then just end it. Don’t bring it up again. If I didn’t want to argue about something then I’d just leave it alone and ignore the last stuff posted and not say, “I tried to be nice and I’m done with it.” If you’re really done with it then great. Then don’t bring it up again! IMO, it’s strange that John doesn’t know about some stuff going on as he claimed if he really worked with the show. Besides, I would think he’d get in trouble with ABC if he told us that he works with the show and is telling us all this stuff and giving his personal opinions about the show and pros, especially Derek. People do come on message boards and places like this and claim that they work with a celebrity and most of the time, it’s not even true. I know someone who is on ABC board and she claims she has worked with DWTS staff and I don’t believe it. Everyone else does, though. But then it’s the ABC board, full of drama queens. Ok, I’m jumping out of this now lol. To summarize it all, just ignore the troublemakers, don’t respond to them, don’t try to have the last word and knock it off. π It’s already annoying.
I figured you’d come to that realization about the ABC boards, Liz. When I used to go there – not anymore, that place is skeery – they would delete all kinds of threads all the time and sometimes you really had to think hard to figure out why they would. Usually if you have links in the top post – someone did tell me that they deleted a thread about Derek not being on the show. I *think* it used to be that if you reported a post they would delete the thread – until some of those little crazies that play over there figured that out. Then whoever moderates it had to start paying attention. π
As someone who tried to pass the lull of the down season on the ABC boards, all I can say is THANK YOU PUREDWTS for resuming your in-season news and post frequency. ABC boards are filled with the dredges of humanity and I’m ashamed I allowed myself to pass the time there. People are so crazy there. Also, where’d this microphone thing come in? Did I miss something or are you guys just saying that hypothetically? Cause if that’s the case LOL. I’m tired so I may be missing an obvious joke/dig.
DwtS Gossip twitted:
#DWTS S12 will have 11 couples. 5 female celebs + 6 male celebs. (me think they’re running out of celebs) LOL
Here are your pros: Mark, Dmitry, Tony, Maks, Louis – Anna, Chelsie, Cheryl, Lacey, Kym. 1 female pro unconfirmed (as of tonight)
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Will it be true? Hope the last female pro is Peta or a new one (but I’d love to see Karina with a good partner)
If that is accurate I do hope the remaining female is Karina. I’m about to go throw myself on a sword screaming Jonathan’s name (not really but how can be he be so universally liked by fans yet never get a spot? Blah!)
Hmmm. I’m still taking everything I hear with a grain of salt, but there were 11 couples last spring season (6 female celebs, 5 male celebs), so maybe they’re following the same pattern, except more male celebs this time. I still think it’s a colossal mistake if they bring Dmitry back – unless they stick him with a ringer again (doubtful) or does a complete 180 and becomes the most exciting pro on the show (also doubtful), I doubt he’ll last long. Interesting if there really is one more female pro that is yet uncast – I think it shows for Peta, as Karina has been tweeting about planning her wedding and opening her own studio.
Fig, I feel you on the Jonathan part. I worry we may never see him again, unless some of the male pros start jumping ship. He’s unfortunately been relegated to pro dance/demo duty. Well, at least we’ve got Anna…maybe…:-)
Aw Fig, you’re so nice. π
The microphone thing is for real – John claimed he worked part time helping with microphones in one of his posts that I ended up deleting because he couldn’t let go of his other behaviors. Pretty sure that a guy who helped part time with microphones isn’t going to have the inside scoop on who’s in and out this season and as soon as he acted like he did in response to Melissa, that game was over and done with.
Eee gads, if that list that Carlos wrote for male pros is accurate, I will run screaming for Jonathan too. Is it possible that I will find myself in Maks’ corner this season on the male pro side?? Why yes, it is. Welcome to the dark side, folks. π
That’s interesting news of only 11 couples this season. I guess will find out Monday. If there is 6 female celebs, it will either be Peta or Karina. I am not wanting to repeat myself but I am disappointed that they are filling one of the male pros with Dmitry instead of Jonathan or Damian. If Derek was in for Season 12, there wouldn’t be any questions that Dmitry would not be there. I agree with you Courtney that I don’t think Dmitry will last long unless he has a ringer.
Well I’m sad to say that DWTSGossip stopped following me and I don’t understand why. She did send me a direct message and said she isn’t allowed to give us the source of who told her that Dmitry and Kym are back but since I don’t want to disrespect DWTSGossip, let me just say that I do very strongly believe that both Dmitry and Kym are back. I hope my pressuring her to reveal her source didn’t make her stop following me and if that’s the case, I do apologize to her about that. I didn’t mean harm. I mean, when you say something then you don’t reveal your source then it makes it seem a little unbelievable that it’s true but she did send me a direct message and I can assure you that I think it’s true about Kym and Dmitry. I just can’t say anything more, I’m sorry! π Show business sucks sometimes, I know. LOL.
Anyway, back to the list… I do have a feeling that Jonathan is not back. I wonder if he’s gone for good because they can’t find him good partners. I also wonder if they decided to call it quits with him because when they hire pros, they expect them to be really good teachers and choreographers and bring their celebs further than week 1 and he hasn’t reached further than week 1 since season 5 which is a long time ago. Jonathan does seem a very nice person but IMO, I don’t think he’s that good a teacher or choreographer. Let’s face it, he always leave early (according to wiki, he was the 3rd to leave in season 1 and 2 and missed 3) except for season 4 and 5 and I think it’s because of sympathy votes for Heather then as we all know it, Marie has a huge fanbase. Again, I don’t meant sound like I’m bashing him because I don’t want to but if you look at his history on DWTS from season 1 to 9, you’ll see what I mean.
Just read Kym is bak……AWESOME π Hopeully paired with Lorenzo. Dymetry is ok i guess so im assuming he is getting paired with Lee or Faye or somebody else tall. Wouldn’t it be funny if brooke mueller really does thee hsow and gets paired w him. his niche could be charlie sheen’s ex wives lol.
Dmitry is talented and has abs that I would kill for but has a lack of personality. Good for him though. hopefully a personality has developed since being paired with Mya lol.
@vin- actually Denise Richards was paired with Maks, not Dmitry.
Nope it hasn’t changed much…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB9FWzLUjRM
C’mon Dmitry.
@Carlos, you’re not the only one to prefer Dmitri to Damian, so do I.
high5, pompon _o/ hehehe
My bad lol. I was studyin for a midterm for my american foreign relations class and my brain is a bit frazzled lol. On a nother note, yay hopefuly kirstie alley is doin the show. I LOVE HER!!!! she was my fav actreeass when i was a kid. She did a movie called “Toothless” and i used to watch it every day….cute movie. i think its on youtube.