DWTS Season 12, Week 5 – Mark Ballas and Chelsea Kane Buckling Down To Bring A-game
Mark Ballas tells USA Today he was nervous for the results show this past week especially with four teams in the top two. He also talks of their new dance coming up. They plan to really buckle down and bring their a-game for this upcoming Monday night. More below.
And … exhale. Thanks to our fans, we’re able to take a breath. Because of your support, we’re buckling down this week to make sure we bring our A-game.
I was really nervous for Tuesday’s Results show. There were four teams in the top two this week, with Romeo and Chelsie getting the encore. Even though Team Kanenball was tied for second with a 26, I was still quite anxious for the reveal. Typically, the team with the encore is safe that week. With three other teams below us, I thought it was a very real possibility for us to be saved late in the show again.
This week we have the Quick Step. It’s the fastest of all the ballroom dances, and Chelsea has responded quite well to the faster dances. Remember how well she did on her Samba this week? Even though that’s a Latin dance, it was really fast. I expect Chelsea to continue her push for the mirror ball trophy.
The theme this week is Guilty Pleasures Week: songs you hate to admit that you love. My guilty pleasures are eating Domino’s Pizza and playing the video game Mortal Kombat. I’m stoked that the newest edition of Mortal Kombat is coming out this month. I’m preordering it!
Heidi’s Note: I will have to check (because that’s how I am) Mark’s assertion that the encore team is “typically” safe. I can think of 3 instances where that was not the case, so I bet there is more. Really shouldn’t put that idea in the fans heads – or Chelsea’s.
The encore couple getting eliminated has actually happened quite a few times – Sabrina & Mark, Jennie & Derek, Steve & Anna, Adam & Julianne, Marlee & Fabian, Cloris & Corky, Lawrence & Edyta, Pam & Damian, and Brandy & Maks were all eliminated during a week where they had the encore dance. 9 times, including once to Mark himself – kinda surprised that he’d make an assumption like that, given past experience.
Mark (and other pros) almost ALWAYS buy the conventional wisdom that the show seems to generate – like Derek always getting the best partners, the encore dancers not being voted off, bitching about dancers with experience when some of their past partners are ringers…the list goes on. So Mark doesn’t surprise me at all. I knew he was wrong – I didn’t know he was THAT wrong though. 🙂
Didn’t Jennie and Derek get the encore the week she was eliminated?
Yep…that’s why they were included in my list above 😉
Sorry… I read it several times and missed them still!
Mark better not win his third mirror ball trophy. Thats all I gotta say.
I understand, Sandy….. When I think that it’s POSSIBLE that the finals are Chelsea and Mark, Chris and Cheryl and Hines and Kym (now, it’s also possible, the way this season is going, that we can have Ralph and Karina, and Kirstie and Maks in the finals, too. In other words, with the exception of Kendra, all of them have a possibility of being in the finals, but even that isn’t a sure bet *cough Bristol cough*)
Anyway, if it comes down to Kym, Cheryl and Mark as the Pros in the finale, I want Kym to win it. It would be her second trophy on our show, but TECHNICALLY, it’d be her third, since she won on the Australian version of the show. I would love to NOT see either Cheryl or Mark win, but if it’s one or the other, right now, my choice would be Cheryl.
Hey, Lori, I wouldn’t count Ralph out AT ALL.
I can see why Mark says that though – it’s not like he says “it NEVER happens”, only that it’s not usually the case. Out of the what…over one hundred eliminations (approx), only nine have been given the encore dance. So ten percent is pretty low, all things considered. “Typically” is the key word there. I think many people just like to give Mark a hard time (that he sometimes, but I don’t think in this case, deserves). I’d be really shocked if Anna said something like this that it get that much contention.
By the way, I realize part of the backlash is the mere fact that Mark does say stuff that is stupid more often than many of the other pros – I just sometimes feel like *someone* needs to defend Mark on occasion, even if he’s far from my favorite 😛
Oh, I wouldn’t, Heidi. In fact, I would LOVE if the finals were my top 3 favorite pairs…. Hines and Kym, Ralph and Karina and Kirstie and Maks. And if that happens, I would be perfectly fine with whomever wins. But, I know that the judges seem to consistently go against 11 previous seasons of precedents this season, and nothing can be guessed, from week to week…. At least, that’s how it feels to me. They are scoring them so that it’s not judges score that determine who goes home, but rather fan base. And, I know that there is a possibility that 2 of my less favorite pros will once again be in the finals. So IF that happens, and IF whichever other pro makes it to the finals with them cannot snag the trophy, there is one that I would mind less winning, over the other.
@Fig – Not to split hairs, but when you take into account that they’ve only done the encore dance since season 2, and that they haven’t done one every week of every season, the encore couple getting eliminated becomes a more frequent instance. And what’s even more disturbing to me is that 5 of those 9 times, the couple wasn’t that week’s lowest scorer. I guess the point we were trying to make is that Mark just shouldn’t make any assumptions, period – and giving the impression to viewers that the encore couple is “usually safe” could negatively influence voting behavior…I could see some less informed viewers saying “Oh, Chelsea & Mark did well this week, they’re probably going to get the encore, so I don’t need to vote as hard.” And then we have “shock” eliminations.
And yes, I’ll admit, we do seem to pick on Mark a lot – but he does seem to make blanket assumptions like this a lot, and that’s what bugs me. The other pros seem to be a bit more media-savvy to me – Cheryl, Anna, Derek, & Kym are exceptionally “PC” when asked hard questions, and always manage to generate a response that doesn’t offend anyone or paint them in a negative light. Some of the other pros – Lacey, Mark, Louis, Tony, and occasionally Maks – seem to put their foot in their mouth a bit more often. I respect when people are able to speak their mind, but at the same time, this show is a popularity contest, and these pros and celebs also have to “play the game” – there’s definitely something to be said for smiling and keeping quiet sometimes, even though they’ve got strong opinions boiling under the surface 🙂
I love Mark Ballas. He is one of the finest young men I’ve ever met. I realize the constant criticism comes from sad Derek fans and that is why most here think he doesn’t deserve another win at the expense of his celeb partner. I say if he and Chelsea keep improving and reach the end they will deserve the MBT as much as Hines and Kym. After all she was out scored by Kym”s dress this week not Hine’s so-so dancing.
Cherie, spare us your own blanket assumptions about us “sad Derek fans here” – you’re not doing Mark fans any favors by throwing out that kind of nonsense. I’ll have you know that when Mark started out on the show, he was actually my favorite pro. Then, as time wore on, he seemed to care less about his partners and more about his own “artistic vision” and the furthering of his music career – and that’s when I started caring less about him. Has NOTHING to do with Derek, as much as you might want it to. And Chelsea being “outscored by Kym’s dress”?! That’s the biggest load of nonsense I’ve ever heard. I’m not sure what kind of cockamamie logic you’re applying to that one, but it ain’t holding up. Outscored by Carrie Ann’s cougar tendencies towards Hines? Maybe. Kym’s costume? No.
As for Mark & Chelsea winning the MBT – if they continue to improve and end up being better than all the other couples, then yes, I think they deserve to win. But right now, Mark’s near-constant insistence on breaking the rules and being “unique” is what’s hindering them – you can’t win this competition on votes alone, and you need the judges on your side in order to really go far. Mark is not catering to the judges right now, and it’s at the expense of Chelsea, who I actually feel bad for because it seems like she is getting blamed for his off-the-wall choreography. I think they’ve got a long way to go if they want a chance to go tete-a-tete with a fan/judge favorite like Hines.
I think Marks strategy backfired this season. Instead of embracing Chelsea and Mark as a couple, Mark has managed to turn the viewers off with his outrageous risk taking, and his over the top ‘look’ at me syndrome.
Favorites are picked early in this competition because they stood out in a good way, unfortunately, this season Chelsea and Mark fell off my dance floor ‘radar’ by week 2. No turning back now. its onward my other favorites.
I was glad to hear Mark say last week that he wanted to keep the choreography more down-the-middle… I want to believe he’d read my post about getting “back in the box”… (Ha!) 😉
I do agree with Sandy – Mark’s strategy has backfired, at Chelsea’s expense. They now have more of a hurdle to overcome, precisely because of what Sandy said – the risky choreography has turned some people off, and they’ve moved on to other favorites.
That being said, I hope Mark stays more mainstream with the choreography, and let’s Chelsea shine. I don’t know that he has it in him, but one can hope…
Anna is never controvertial, period. She and the rest of the female pros (excluding Lacey) seem to be extremely smart about what they say 99% of the time. The same can NOT be said for the male pros, sans Derek the ultra PC Pro. As for giving Mark a hard time? This is hardly a hard time – merely pointing out that he best not hang his hat on his own and Chelsea’s safety based on getting the encore. He does her a disservice by misleading her. It’s much better if she’s prepared for anything so that she reacts like she would probably want to on National TV.
LOL – this Derek fan has NOTHING to be “sad” about. 🙂 I get to see my boy in 3D on the big screen next year and he just said he believes he’ll be back for the fall season. As for fine young Mr. Ballas – maybe if he would stop with the showmances and watch what he says, we would have nothing to criticize. Oh, and could ask him to stop spamming me on twitter about his music? I don’t want to unfollow him, but I will if I have to.
As for a third MBT?? I don’t think that’s really in the cards, but I guess you never know. I’ll be voting for Hines and Ralph cause I lurves them. Maybe Chris too – I love him also. I love Kirstie too, but I don’t think she’s going to pull it out. Although, as you know, dancing only carries you so far – you have to have lots of fans. And Kirstie has that in spades.
I’m a Derek fan and I’m not “sad” either. Liking Derek has nothing to do with my annoyance with Mark. Mark has made that bed for himself. I know a lot of fans out there who are NOT Derek fans that feel this way too. So, I don’t think it’s fair to say that it’s just Sad Derek fans who feel that way.
Look at it this way, for every fan that is annoyed with Mark for being an attention whore, there is at least one Derek fan (whose asses you would be kissing if you were smart) who drank the “Mark is Derek’s best friend so I should vote for him” koolaide. Mark wins as much as he loses. Thanks to Derek fans.
I guess I kinda look at that statement by Mark to Chelsea – hey, here’s a way to relax if you’re nervous, odds are that if you get the encore, you are less likely to be eliminated. I’m sure ALL of the pros have things that they use to try to gauge the outcome – looks by Tom, how they are treated by the producers, etc. If it was me on that dancefloor, I would probably analyze any cue I could get as well, and this is something that is a tangible and quantifiable piece of evidence, even if it’s not always foolproof. I don’t think it’s a disservice, just a way of giving her confidence – and if it backfires, well, then we won’t see the effect on the dancefloor anyway 😛
On another note, I was in the checkout line at the store and I saw a piece that said that Lacey and Mike hooked up and that she and her bf had broken up because of it (I hadn’t realized they were done!). Wonder if that’s true. :O
I hadn’t heard that about Lacey but if that’s a tabloid magazine you’re talking about then I think we know whether or not that might be true.
As for Mark… well I’ll be honest. I like Mark, he’s a great choreographer and dancer and he seems pretty nice. BUT! He does seem to be looking for some type of attention, especially on his music. He tweets about it a lot and even have a background of him playing his guitar. So I’m wondering which he’s more interested in… music or dancing? I just saw his music video “Hotwire” and it was a good video and I had no idea he had a voice like that! But guess who is featured in that video? Chelsea Kane. I think some people here are right and Mark is trying so hard to get attention or even get votes so he probably asked Chelsea to be in the music video as a promotion not just for his album but for votes on DWTS. I don’t think it’s right to use your partner that way. The other thing is the tabloids talking about him and Pia Toscano dating and Pia made a lot of headlines when she was eliminated from American Idol. I have no idea if the dating thing is true or not but I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t. I think even a pap guy asked if it’s true and he didn’t really give a direct answer. Chelsea and Mark are doing great and I just wish Mark wouldn’t mess that up by trying everything he can to get attention on himself or even votes like the music video, dating people who makes headlines etc… JMO.
Okay, about Mark’s tweets and Facebooking… let’s not forget Louis promoting his LaBlast and all the special event teaching he does. Maks tweets about his studios – a little less lately, but last year, it was bigtime. Lacey tweets all the time about her singing and her classes and special appearances. Cheryl was tweeting madly about her book for a while there. So, you know, Mark’s not the only one using the PR machine of social media. He may be using it the most these days, but he’s by far not the only one.
OH! And as for Mark’s video, I believe I saw an interview with Chelsea who explained that she overheard him talking with the video director on the phone during their first week of rehearsals about how they were looking for a female lead for it and she offered to do it.
Chelsea volunteered to be in Mark’s video. They had only known each other for 2 days. As it turns out it cemented a very good partnership between the two. Please tell me why Mark should not use the same PR avenues as everyone else for promotion? How does one make a living in the entertainment field without Marketing and advertising? Twitter is full of ads and requests for money. Mark has stated many times how he feels about dancing and music. I find it odd anyone anyone would be confused about it. I think he will be successful by building a foundation with the bricks others have thrown at him.
Liz, I think it was US Weekly or People – I don’t really know, cause I just looked at it for 20 seconds before my line moved on 🙂
I wonder if the producers are gonna give the encore to the eliminated couple next week, just to teach Mark to shut up lol 🙂
As much as I wish there wasn’t so much bashing about Mark here, everybody is entitled to their opinions so…
Now I did want to say that it’s pretty normal that the pros use their Twitter to promote their other projects. Derek has been tweeting about Cobu, Cheryl was all over the place with her book, when it’s DWTS season they all go “vote for my partner and me”… It’s the beauty and curse of the social media… I understand it can be annoying when you are not interested, and also do you really need to be reminded of the movie, the album, the book, the dance studio, and what not when you’re already a follower and/or have already bought it and/or live in a place where you cannot buy said item/ attend said classes, etc? But can you really blame them for promoting their stuff. These people are very talented and it makes me happy that they tackle other projects to showcase their gifts and abilities. PR-wise, it seems only fair (and smart actually) that they try to gain support from the audience who already knows and supports them 6 months out of 12.
Ladies, perhaps I wasn’t clear in the point I was trying to make: I have no problems with the pros doing PR for themselves via whatever social media they chose. It’s a good idea. My problem with Mark is that it’s a near-constant barrage of “Me, me, me!” and it makes me question his commitment to the show & his partner. Mark tweets nonstop about his music – far more often than he does about his partner or the show. If Mark’s heart lies with his music as much as I’m led to believe by his tweeting/facebooking/etc., then I think he should go devote all of his time to it, instead of giving us a half-assed effort on the show. And then there’s the time when he’s actually on the show – he spends a good deal of that time focusing primarily on his own desires, as well. What HE wants in their choreography. What HE thinks about the judges scores. What HE wants to do for their next routine. He has even gone so far as to cut Chelsea off mid-sentence to interject his opinion. For me, this show is about the stars and their journey – not the pros. I’m all for being “creative”, but I don’t think it should be done at the expense of one’s celeb partner. While most of the other pros are focused on their partner’s abilities & needs, Mark is off concocting his next “risk-taking” routine…and as we’ve seen, it has cost Chelsea with the judges. THAT is what I have a real problem with – selfishness.
All those other pros tweet about OTHER things as well, though, Evaine. Mark? Not so much. In any case, comparing Mark to Louis and Lacey won’t get you anywhere. They’re my very least favorite pros of all for the reasons you mention and Louis also for his behavior the last few seasons. Maks and Cheryl tweet about all kinds of things. Mark and lacey are almost entirely about self promotion and the whole DaD thing is getting way out of hand.
Er, Gail, two or three tweets about Cobu don’t really stand up against several tweets A DAY about HurtLoveBox in addition to relentless requests to vote for him in DaD – I WISH Derek would use twitter the way others use it, if only a fraction as much. It’s one of his biggest faults. Don’t confuse the subject (I know it’s hard to not over simplify) – I don’t think anyone objects to them advertising their shit on twitter – that would be silly. But to be so relentless about it is what is ridiculous. Especially when your followers don’t change that much in a given day.
You may be right, Heidi, but Mark got pretty burnt last season after being told to stop tweeting because of Bristol. He does sometimes tweet personal stuff, but it’s rare these days. Only a few pics here and there.
Anyway, I like him. *shrug*
I think Mark was told to stop tweeting partly because he (and Maks) makes the biggest mistake you can make in his position – he responds to haters. You just have to learn to ignore that when you’re in their position. He was responding to haters and inflaming the issue as I recall so he had to stop altogether. I think sometimes he doesn’t realize that there are some scary-ass people out there and you shouldn’t egg them on. Maks used to do that too and I always felt like tweeting him to tell him to stop giving the haters what they want – attention. But he seems like he’s stopped doing that completely – really, he’s a different guy these days. Either he’s in love, or it’s Kirstie. Or both. 🙂
Courtney – I get your point, but I don’t agree. Most facts can lead to opposite interpretations depending on one’s subjectivity, feelings and opinions. For instance: selfishness vs. an effort to showcase your partner so she stands out from the pack.
I haven’t seen the footage of Mark cutting off Chelsea, ABC won’t let me, but because I appreciate Mark’s work and I’m not annoyed at him, I imagine I would be more lenient, I’m even wondering if it’s not just a few seconds taken out of context to conveniently create a little drama, it wouldn’t be the first time. Plus we don’t know what happened afterwards, maybe he apologized to his partner, who knows?
I’ve just checked Mark’s tweets, and I found as many tweets about his music as about DWTS since the beginning of this season. So while he does tweet a lot about his music –and if you don’t like it or you’re not interested, you might find it’s too much–, it’s not accurate to say that he tweets more about his music than about the show (DaD voting requests not included in the tweets about DWTS).
Derek barely tweets – it’s kind of annoying. 😛
I think Mark is very similar to the demographic that likes him – a huge abundance of tweeting to make sure the same damn message gets across. He also tweets cute pictures of himself and his toys and friends. But if you don’t like him, it’s easy to find reasons to be annoyed. Just like it’s easy to overlook potentially annoying things that favorites may do. It’s hard to remain impartial, and of course there’s really no fun in it – that’s why you have favorites to cheer for, I guess 🙂 I tend to agree with a lot of the negative things that people see in certain pros, but I also try to look at the positives and take those into account as well. Lacey, Louis, Mark, and sometimes Maks do tend to make their opinions known a little more often than the ones that are easier to like – Derek, Anna, Kym, etc. So while they may or may not be better people, they certainly give the public less ammo 🙂
I know everyone is entitled to their opinion and snarking seems to be an appealing pasttime, but I long for the old adage, “If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say it at all.” (At the very least, I wish the writers/moderators of PureDWTS would stay neutral on the topics that they put up.)
I don’t love everyone or everything on the show, but I prefer to leave them be and just focus on posting praise.
As a Mark fan, the weekly Mark bashing hurts my heart. Very few of us know him personally, yet there is constant negativity and speculation about every little thing he does or says. I know, I know…Mark fans have also said negative things about others, but hate just spurns on hate, and it’s hard not to get defensive when your favorite is being attacked.
I know I don’t have to come to this site, but I hang around to get general DWTS info and because I feel Mark deserves to have at least a little fan support on his side. I’m not that naive to think that this post will stop the negativity, but I’d like to call out to those who do love Mark to post praises more often on his behalf.
Heidi – As I said in one of my previous comment, I’m a big supporter of Derek’s as well, so I certainly don’t mind Derek posting about Cobu and I wish he would post more details about how it’s going, pics from rehearsals, etc.
Now, the numbers I’ve compiled regarding Mark’s tweets since the beginning of the season show that he’s been posting as much about his music as about DWTS (DaD voting requests not included), with an average of 1.6 tweets per day for each topic. Yeah I know, I should get a life, I will right after I finish answering, but it seems to me that less than 2 music-oriented tweets a day are not that big a deal, and that the same amount of DWTS-related tweets a day is decent. I’m wondering if the volume of retweeting from people you also follow wouldn’t inflate the impression of relentlessness (the math actually surprised me, I felt he was tweeting much more than that about his music, so I came to the conclusion it was due to retweets by other people).
I’ve found a total of 11 tweets from Mark (including his retweeting other people’s tweets) about DaD, again it doesn’t seem so bad to me. But you won’t have to put up with those much longer anyway.
Well, Gail, add in the DaD tweets – then do the math. Again I ask – does he have ANYTHING else to say? And averaging it out over a period of time is kinda cheating, IMO. So, he forgets to tweet for two days and then does 6 in a day?? How is that BETTER? To me it seems even more ridiculous. I should probably just unfollow him since he’s annoying the shit out of me with his “all about ME” attitude – as Courtney said, it’s not just the tweeting.
Only 11 tweets about DaD? I find that very hard to believe. Maybe the whole of Mark is just so annoying right now that he’s nails on a chalkboard.
Gail, I really don’t think you should comment on something you haven’t seen. I HAVE seen the shouting at Chelsea and there is no way to take it out of context.
AL, don’t hold your breath waiting for us to change our ways – we are who we are and I make no apologies for that. Neutral?? Doesn’t exist and you are silly to think so – especially as an ardent Bristol fan. Aren’t you the one who was calling Kirstie a “cow” a few weeks ago? Or was that a different AL?
I have seen the “shouting at Chelsea” and honestly, he wasn’t shouting at her. What he was doing was interrupting her every time she said they were going to push the boundaries or whatever the term was. He was stretching in the background, going, “No we’re not.”, every time she tried to explain to the interviewer. I think he did it 4 maybe 5 times. No, it wasn’t his best moment, but again, I think he was trying – not the right way, maybe – to reassure his celeb and not put ideas in anyone – judge or voters minds about the validity of what he had choreographed. So no, he didn’t shout at Chelsea in anger. He was just being somewhat obnoxious and I think it stemmed from frustration. Not his best moment, no.
But I still like him. 🙂
You don’t think that was shouting?? His voice was raised, for sure. And you were the one saying that if you like someone they aren’t going to be annoying, right?? LOL!! Yes, we are much more forgiving for those we like. 🙂
By the way, I counted FOUR HurtLoveBox tweets in the last 24 hours alone. But no, I’m not going back in time to count – even I don’t care that much about him.
Nah, that wasn’t shouting, that was being obnoxious. You don’t have a young man living in your house do you? *LOL* He reminded me so much of my son right then. I did want to smack him. And I would never say that if I like someone they aren’t going to be annoying. God, they’re only people! *LOL* Even Maks annoys me at time and you know how I feel about him. 🙂
I just think that the scene with Chelsea was unfortunate and somewhat immature, and showed Mark’s frustration with all the naysayers and stuff.
Well, not having kids doesn’t make one a moron – and I do equate a raised voice to shouting. To me, he was shouting. And you telling me that for a 24 year old that’s not shouting, doesn’t really change that. It just means that you have a higher tolerance for stupid ass behavior. 🙂
I’m over this conversation, there’s only so many ways you can say the same thing. I disagree – we’ll have to leave it at that.
Heidi, I would never call you a moron.
(BTW, I did say I wanted to smack him, so tolerance not that high. 🙂 )
And yep, agreeing to disagree is good.
Al…I feel your pain. It is hard to display good manners when it is obvious none have been learned.
Cherie, you are free to leave at any time. But keep it up with the snotty behavior and you will go whether you want to or not. People don’t agree with you. DEAL with it.
Ok I didn’t mean for everyone to get all excited about Mark when I talked about his album and him being with Pia etc… lol. You’re right, others have done promos for other things on FB and twitter. Cheryl did promo for her new book, Derek for the movie… I just felt like Mark was overplaying it a little bit by going into the extreme like hooking up with someone who made big headlines because she was eliminated from a very popular reality show so American Idol fans will pay attention to him, constantly reminding people about his new album (I don’t mean tweeting often in a 24 hour period about the album) and telling fans to take pics of themselves when buying the album and the DaD contest. So I agree with Courtney and Heidi.
IMO, I find it annoying when pros have to tweet about the DaD contest a lot. All pros seem to be friends so I thought they’d support one another and be fair. Not all the pros are tweeting about DaD and it’s especially annoying because they’ve done it before and feel that they have to do it again. I’ll have to agree with Heidi about Mark tweeting and retweeting about DaD. Lacey is also doing the same thing and guess who else? Anna. Although I think Anna retweets fans who say something about it, rather than tweeting it herself. Let the fans do the promo! It’ll make the pro sound less desperate about doing DaD, especially if they’ve done it before like Mark and Lacey have. I’m ready for someone new anyway.
Mark is a really nice guy and he’s fun so I don’t mean to sound like I’m bashing him. I don’t mind the pros doing some promos for something as long as they don’t overdo it. I just feel that Mark and Lacey and now Anna are going at it a little too much with the DaD and should let the fans take care of the promoting. I might be wrong but I think Chelsie has been doing quite a promo for DaD also but she’s not as bad. I wouldn’t mind her doing it if people wanted her to. 😉
Anna’s been retweeting folks who have voted for her for DaD and thanking them at the same time. And I sure hope more folks are voting for her than she’s retweeting! I would LOVE for her to get the DaD.
Heidi …what is good for the goose is good for the gander. I have never called YOU names or threatened YOU in any way.
I have the same right you do to express my opinions and I don’t care if you don’t agree with me.
Yeah, but Cherie, you are being sarcastic and throwing insults behind your posts. I perceive that as being snotty too.
But see Cherie, that’s where you’re wrong – you have a right to express your opinions, POLITELY, but you overstepped that when you started accusing us of “not having manners” just because we don’t agree with you. You are being high-and-mighty by making those kinds of implications, and we don’t have to take it – this isn’t a blog regulated by the government, so free speech isn’t protected here. We’re done with this discussion, and if you continue to harp on it and throw around insults I have no problem blocking you permanently. Shouldn’t be too hard for you to move on, since you don’t really care if we don’t agree with you 😉
Cherie, when did I call you a name or threaten you?? The only thing I said that could ever be construed as “threatening” was saying you will go whether you want to or not – and trust me when I say that’s not a threat, it’s a promise. We don’t put up with a lot of passive aggressive bullshit here, just so you know. You either engage in the discussion and make a good argument for your side, or you don’t post at all. No more boo hooing and whining. And, like Courtney said, this ain’t no democracy – you don’t have the same rights here as I do or your name would be on some of the posts and you would be doing the work to keep this site running and getting hits. You aren’t.
And oh yes you do care if I agree with you. You make that clear with every post. 😀