SPOILERS!!! DWTS Season 13, Week 8 – The Results!
Well, because the web site is getting hit with major traffic again, this took longer than I thought to get up. ย I guess it’s great to be popular. ๐
Anyway, Nancy and Tristan left us tonight and I’m very sad to see them go. ย Tristan is second only to Derek in terms of very classy guys and I think I can speak for all of us here at PureDWTS when I say – PLEASE HAVE HIM BACK NEXT SEASON, TPTB!!! ย Awesome man, and I have a new appreciation for Nancy Grace. Don’t care for her TV show or a lot of her opinions – but she’s a genuine human and seems like a sweetheart. Someone I’d be glad to go out for a beer with and argue about the court case of the moment. ๐
Courtney and I both called it – but the bar was set extremely low, thanks to the judges protective instincts. ย They are determined to have an Olympian in the final four – hopefully they come back to earth next week so we can have a halfway decent final.
*sniff* Bye Nancy and Tristan, we’ll miss you! Now need to make sure Rob gets into the finals.
Amen, Miss Heidi! Tristan is one class act. Please bring him back next season as a pro to the powers that be!!!
I am sure going to miss these two! They were nothing but pure fun from the get go!!! Nancy did a lot for this show and all the beginning dancers. It was great seeing her in a different light.
I’m sad but glad they went out on a high note with their tango last night, which I think might have been their best dance of the season.
Both were so classy at the end. Nancy giving all the credit to Tristan and Tristan being so gracious to everyone at DWTS and the fans. To me, they truly embraced the idea of the show – put a non-dancer with a cute pro and watch the hilarity ensue. They always made sure to have fun, even when things got frustrating.
If Tristan isn’t asked back for next season, TPTB are morons and need to be in an asylum. He’s a breath of fresh air and what all the pros should be – respectful, funny, patient, and encouraging. What a guy… ๐
Congrats to the final four as they all deserve to be there – even Hope. She earned her way there by practicing hard, delivering two nice dances, & then their fans voted to put them there.
Always sad to see someone go at this stage. Congrats to Nancy & Tristan for a nice run.
I think Nancy was underscored in her tango. Hoping for a JR x Ricki x Hope final
Nancy & Tristan were a delight to watch. ๐ I loved it when she embraced her inner vixen for the group Broadway dance! What a great partnership they have.
Just have to mention – Dance Center was especially BRILLANT tonight! My sides still hurt!
Yes please, bring Tristan back!
I gotta say, at the beginning of the season, I had no idea who Nancy Grace was, and my first impression of her was not good. But, I grew to absolutely lover her, and her partnership with Tristan, and I am not easily turned, and don’t tend to root for the less skilled dancer..but I rooted for her!..I really wished she would have made it for just one more week, over Hope. But c’est la vie! She had a great run, and I am glad for what she and Tristan added to the show.
…and yes, mzetting, Dance Centre was fantastic! I especially liked the Ricki package…could have maybe done without seeing Len naked though! haha
Liked that Nancy acted as the visitor, instead of bringing her pre-set behaviors and “gravitas” to DWTS. This is what attracts me more than contrived feuds, etc.-some one showing growth, of which we have many examples over the years, including recent celebs like Kyle and Romeo. I expect Tristan to be back as a pro next season. Sorry, Louis and Corky! LOL It’s interesting, it seemed like Kirstie A, for all her wackiness, brought Maks to a new maturity, but what happened … ??
Dance Center was HILARIOUS, especially the part when the guys bothered Tristan, hahaha. Loved it!
So Happy Derek & Ricki are in the Semi-finals!!! Let’s go Team Drickilous! I think it’s going to be a great Semi-Finals!
Congrats to all the contestants!
Nancy & Tristan had a good run!
I like Tristan too. He fought his way uphill through Nancy’s super controlling personality to the final 5 even though she never improved. She never caught on to technique because she won’t listen to her pro. She learned her routines, mostly, but still walked her way through the same stolid performances every week. It’s high time she went home to her twins. The cartwheel was a nice touch though.
Don’t get me wrong. Nancy isn’t in Kate + 8’s category, but all of the other dancers have shown steady improvement from one week to the next.
I think Rob will make it to the finals. He does improve noticeably every week. He’d start competing on Ricki’s turf if he had a few more weeks to get there.
But JR will have the win unless something goes terribly wrong. Ricky is doing really, really well, but she isn’t keeping up with JR. It’s tough when there’s one star who breaks out into dance like he should have been doing it all his life. Nicole Scherzinger was like that. Compete with Nicole and Derek? Not likely. Same thing here. JR has it.
I love this show!!
Livia, you hit it. JR has the feel of dancing. Dancing is like sports-you can’t be running the play, the basics through your mind as it happens. You train, train, train but the performance must be natural and intuitive. Still, not an easy task the celebs take on. I don’t think I could even remember all the steps/routine.
As usual the semi-final results show is going to be really interesting.
I am pulling for a JR/Ricki/Rob finale. For me Rob has earned it more than Hope with his steady improvement and for his attitude and solid non-dramatic partnership with Cheryl.
I do feel sorry for what Hope has had to deal with in Maks this season, but I don’t like her dancing enough to feel bad enough to vote for her. And while people certainly deserve the chance to redeem themselves, I just don’t think Maks should be rewarded for his behavior all season with a spot in the finale. His incredible popularity after all of his behavior season after season really baffles me sometimes. I feel like if any other of the pros acted the way he does, they would lose fans by the thousands. I feel like even beloved Derek would lose support immediately if he behaved in that manner. I don’t know….anyway back to the actual dance competition….
As much as I would like Rob to make it over Hope, I don’t want it to happen at the expense of Ricki or JR. Suggestion everyone- if Ricki or JR are your favorite — vote for them! Don’t assume they are safe and that only Rob or Hope need the votes. The semi-final elimination is often a really bad one. Stick with your favorite or they might not make it to the finals!
Ditto what Kenna said; I don’t usually root for a less talented dancer to stay, but I loved Nancy and Tristan togther. Would have been happy to have seen them stay and Hope and Maks take their leave.
Tristan couldn’t be any cuter, could he? Looks-wise or personality-wise. Total package, imo. Were they correct in Dance Center in saying he was a former troupe member? Not sure how I could have missed him last season…
I agree Bruce. JR just has an incredible natural ability for dance, certainly the most of this season’s stars. I think Ricki has a lot of talent for it too just in certain types of dances more than others. She has great music sensitivity and her ability to really perform her dances make them really effective.
Rob has improved all-around but he does often look like he is thinking out there and Hope does as well but she has improved too.
I’ll miss Tristand, but Nancy was definitely the worst dancer of the remaining stars.
I think Maks now has competition (or a replacement) for being the partner for women who are too tall for Mark or Derek.
Next week is going to be trying for the judges. JR and Ricki are a shoe-in for the finals but who do they want in the finals with them. CAI has an undying love for Rob obviously but has been severely kissing Hope and Maks ass since Maks Gate ’11 just as the other judges have. I hate to be so cynical but its the theme of this year over or underscore by huge margins especially after Chynna went home.
I hope I am wrong but I think the Samba next week may cost Rob a spot in the finals. I just can’t seem him doing good in it. Her is going to have to off a great Argentine Tango and Cha Cha relay to offset it.
Livia,
I have to disagree. I do think nancy developed her skills. and she was consistent. I think hope was the same until this week.
Adam,
Cheryl will rock it on the a.tango. I have no doubt about it. rob is the best partner (or the partner who has the best skills) to do an excellent a.tango with her after she came back from argentina. well, I don’t like him. did he improve? yes, no doubt. but he stills a chayote (as we say here in brazil) to me. (no taste, no spice, no wow, you know)…
I’m looking for a final with Hope, Ricky and JR. 3rd, 2nd, 1st, respectively
Wasn’t surprised to see Nancy go but must commend her for withstanding and putting herself out there the last couple months.
Of the four remaining, can’t see JR and Ricki not making the finals and think that Hope will (unfortunately) ultimately join them as her remaining dances will likely favor her more than Rob’s will him…not to mention the storyboarding…but who knows, there’s still a set of dances to go where anything could happen.
My cute “Lucky Charm” leprecheun is gone. What a delightful run Nancy and Tristan have had. I never would have thought that she would have made it to week 8. Nancy loved her time on the show and it showed. They left with class and thankful for the experience. I will miss them. ๐
I wish Maks and Hope had left instead. At this point I can’t even stand to look at him, the validation of his behavior being accepted makes me cringe, he has gotten away with his behavior his entire life, a little apology made by Maks is all part of his game. Thank goodness, Karina kicked him to the curb. At least now if Maks makes the finals we can count on a crappy freestyle.
Sad to see them go but we will see Thristan again next season no doubt. He really is a nice guy and lets face it a great teacher. He made Nancy into a dancer and I doubt that a lot of people thought she would get as far as she did.
On a side note, Flo Rida was not great last night. Kinda surprised too since he is great live (I’ve been 2 one of his concerts and damn he can really get a crowd going).
I thought that Nancy and Tristan were total class after the elimination last night. I am bummed that they did not show their video “walk down memory lane” like they usually do for the ousted ones. I wonder if that will be on the ABC site.
Can’t wait for next week. Hope Rob can bring it!
I agree with Adam and Trenta – Rob’s samba doesn’t favor him as much as Hope’s favor her. Combine that with storyboarding and ass kissing and Cheryl is really going to have to step it up next week. Derek and Karina too, for that matter.
But, Rob may surprise us.
I guess Nancy needed to go, but I’m bummed. I’ll miss her and Tristan.
I really wish Maks and Hope weren’t there any longer though, and I hope they don’t make the finals. AND I really hope he is not back next season. The more I think about the non-apology, the angrier I get. “I take responsibility for being too rough…that’s on me.” Does that mean that people thought it might have been her fault? Or what? We know who was responsible for your awful behavior, Maks. Creep.
On another note, I thought Dance Center was actually funny last night! Maybe they had more material to work with this season.
im gonna miss Nancy. and im gonna miss Tristan even more they better bring him back as a pro next season.Riki and Derek and JR and
Karina are definitely going for the finals next week is between Rob and Hope . I think Rob is a few steps ahead of hope but then she hass been able to surprise us before and honestly when i saw rob on the cast list i really diddn’t expect him to be this good I really expected him to be like ?Kim. …….i loved his Dance centre stats esp ……………..
WEAKNESSES; Has a Kardashian Ass lolz. so lets give it up for Rob . but at the end of the day iom split even btwn rob and han.. i mean Hope
Dance Center was great…especially liked the segment with Tristan and the rolling the credits for “Max’s show” with several different configurations of his name.. Hope they are back before the finals.
Will miss Tristan but it was Nancy’ time to go…really wish David was still around..
I too hope they bring Tristan back as a pro. I really like him. They can also get rid of Maks and bring back Dimitri Chaplin. Dimitri is an awesome dancer and a great teacher.
I agree. I wish David was still around in place of Hope. Hopefully Rob can utilize his butt in the samba ๐
Cheryl has been there before (even if not in a while), and has a better student in Rob than Maks does in Hope.
Cheryl’s freestyles would top Maks’ any day of the week!
I also hope Tristan is back next season. He is awesome.
Laurie:
I think when Maks said โI take responsibility for being too roughโฆthatโs on me.โ he was meaning that it wasn’t the pressure getting to him or anything outside like that, he just messed up plain and simple. Still not the best apology but I get that he was trying, some people (especially men – from my experience) are not good at verbalizing an apology.
Looking forward to next week. Love the A. Tango
I don’t know, I actually think things could shake out in Rob’s favor next week…Hope may have the easier individual dance (paso), but she also has the same dance that JR has – and Hope’s paso is likely going to pale in comparison to his. She could barely stay on-time in the group paso doble, and ended up sitting on the floor for 8 counts. I daresay the difference between she & JR’s pasos will be quite a bit more marked than the difference between Ricki & Rob’s sambas. I’m also not sure how well she’ll fare in the Argentine tango or the cha-cha relay. Ricki & JR may have never done cha-cha, but I really don’t see them struggling with it, and Rob’s wasn’t really terrible. Hope’s…was dicey. ๐ I have a feeling the scores for the relay will go Hope – 4, Rob – 6, Ricki – 8, JR – 10. It’s not a huge safety net for Rob, but it could help.
Look forward to Derek and Ricki Arg. Tango/Samba, and Cha Cha Cha. Derek always choreographs an awesome A.Tango. A showstopper! Just hope Ricki holds up her stamina. also hope Jennifer Grey shows up for the two in person.
By the way I have a feeling Derek has the DAD, anyone know if this will be a pretaped segment or they’re doing it live. Hope the female pro is Karina!
Margaret, I wish you would give it a rest on the DaD talk – we don’t know anything, only that he’s doing another pro dance next week.
Heidi:
Ok, sorry didn’t want to cause a problem!
I hate how they do the “not necessarily the bottom two.” I know you could speculate forever, but I’m still curious if that means Rob was actually in the bottom two or not. And if he wasn’t, WHO was? Drama drama drama.
Marie, my guess is Hope, but it was “be nice to Hope week”, so they wouldn’t put her in jeopardy. I think Rob has a bigger fan base than Hope and I pray that Ricki and Derek do! ๐
Prediction:
1. JR
2. Ricki
3. Rob
4. Hope
Iโm not convinced that JR and Ricki have bigger fan bases than either Rob or Hope. I think JR and Ricki are staying on the show because of their dancing ability, while Rob and Hope are still on based on their popularity. Chynna is case in point – she was a good dancer, but once she faltered, she didnโt have the popular base to get her through the rough week.
Which leads to me to wonder if JR and Ricki are splitting the same fan base? – the fans that are solely voting based on dancing. Rob and Hope have fan bases outside of DWTS, so theyโre definitely pulling from that, in addition to the people who are voting for them based on their dancing. And if JR and Ricki are splitting the same fan base, it might be an interesting semi-final eliminationโฆ
Sorry, that was probably a confusing postโฆ
I know what you mean Marie. I actually thought the same thing but for some reason was thinking of it affecting the final more than the semi-final. Meaning that JR and Ricki could split the same kinds of fans and unfortunately give the 3rd person the win. But, the judges could actually help prevent that from happening too.
JR and Ricki have fanbases outside of the show (soap fans, talk show, broadway etc) but maybe not as large as Rob and Hopes. I do think JR and Ricki have won many new fans over with their dancing and JR also with his backstory.
I think the elimination next week could be hairy but I still think one of the best dancers will win the mirrorball!
I wonder where Nancy’s fans’ votes will go? I think Tristan’s just may go to Ricki and Derek based on what I see in the comments here. ( or maybe it’s wishful thinking!)
Well, we have this exact same conversation every single season and the general viewing audience gets the top 2 right MOST of the time. Remember, 17 million people watch this show. Also remember that “fanbases” are relatively meaningless UNLESS the fanbase in question is predominantly middle aged women. In this respect, I think that JR and Ricki both dominate, handily.
It’s kinda funny, I could probably go back to conversations where people were worried about Bristol and a variety of other people who were not great dancers somehow magically winning. Oh, man, so many people tried to tell me that Bristol’s fanbase was HUGE no matter how often I explained the judges scoring and her not needing a huge number of votes to stick around. I went into great detail week by week on how she regularly needed less than 5k votes to stay compared to other people. At the end of the show, if the judges do NOT enable poor dancers, they will go home. So, it’s just as much about the judges as it is about the fanbases.
The ONLY question in my mind is – who are they going to pick as their designated whipping post this up coming week?? Are they still in the “Hope apologist” mode? Are they sure they don’t want Derek to get another MBT so they will prevent Ricki from advancing (don’t see this one happening, but you never know)?? Or have they decided that Hope/Maks is better in the finale than Rob/Cheryl for some mysterious crack-addled reason?? Who knows. But don’t ever forget that they have just as much power as the audience does.
Well, Heidi, based on your comments, let’s hope the judges score on what they see and not on who they’re trying to befriend next week!
I agree Heidi, the public usually gets the top two right. I wasn’t worried at all about Bristol in that season. Last season though, I did think that Kirstie & Maks fans could possibly be big enough to give her the win over 2 more talented dancers in Hines and Chelsea. This season, The show has a history of awful semi-final eliminations though and the big surprise elimination (more likely to be Ricki than JR) could happen but I really hope not! I do think it is MOST likely though that Ricki and JR will be the top 2. If for some reason only one makes the finale, I am close to 100% positive that one will win.
I definitely agree with your questions for next week. I could see them being super nice to Hope again….or picking at her if they want Rob in the finals. If they want Hope over Rob they will nitpick Rob all of a sudden. I know all 3 judges do like Derek and seem to look forward to what he is going to do, so I would be surprised to see them nitpick Ricki so much again that it puts her in danger of not making the finals. Who knows, if they do anyway and it is undeserved, the result will probably more votes for Ricki anyway! I just wish they would either be consistent- either nitpicky with everyone or generous with everyone. Wishful thinking I know, I have watched every season, I know the ropes!
Overall, Cheryl produces better and more varied choreography than Maks, and needless to say, brings a higher quality of coaching, plus has a more enjoyable give and take with her partners. I’d much rather see her in the final than Maks, plus Rob is a more engaging performer than Hope. Hope has, however, been a MAGNIFICENT example of how to cope with a difficult person and keep on moving forward with your chin up and a smile on your face. She never let Maks’ negativity vanquish her as a person. A lesson for all of us because each of us, at one time or another, gets to experience a lousy boss or colleague or someone.
I’m finding Derek less likable this season. Maybe it’s the way the producers are framing it so we vote for JR. I don’t know. I feel like I’m getting a vibe off of him that’s a little too proud and sort of like he thinks he’s better thank Ricki or something. I don’t know. Maybe it’s hard for him not to have a clear and obvious shot at the trophy. I don’t think that Ricki has that same killer instinct to WIN WIN WIN that’s natural to Derek.
Colleen:
I think Ricki only has a problem with the commitment and hard work that goes into it. Remember last year Jennifer grey had her injuries and she was in much better shape than Ricki. But I think the stress is building up on Ricki. Now she has to deal with three dances next week and possibly four more for the finale. Derek to me is fine, the pressure is just as much on the pros as it is on them.
As likeable as J.R is I still think Ricki is much more polished than he is. He is still getting some sympathy votes in my opinion and I mean no disrespect to the military or to him. I think the producers like drama and will continue to do so.
I think JR is the best dancer as well as the most likeable, no sympathy votes required, and he should definitely win. To answer another question, all my Nancy/Tristan votes are now going to Rob.
Buttercup, what if Hope does better than Rob? Are you still going to vote for him regardless? Or can you be swayed?
I totally disagree Colleen. To me, Ricki seems to be the more competitive one, putting a lot of pressure and stress on herself and getting really bummed when she isn’t perfect. Derek has been super positive with her all season and has been lifting her up when her spirits have been down. I haven’t seen one instance where he acts like he’s too good for Ricki at all. To me he’s been less competitive than he was with more ‘ringer’ types like Nicole and Jennifer and just seems to be enjoying being back this season.
@Margaret – Sympathy votes? I don’t think JR would want any sympathy votes whatsoever. JR has worked hard and earned his spot in the finals. He doesn’t need sympathy from anyone. He is living his life to the fullest and having a blast. If he wins the MBT, then so be it. And I am fairly confident he will take the MBT this season.
Colleen:
Ricki is very hard on herself when she messes up a bit. Didn’t you see how discouraged she was the other night. Derek lifted her up and I think everyone else did, I heard Nicole and Brooke even spoke to her>
Sandy:
I didn’t say all his votes were sympathy votes. You don’t think people who served in the military are voting for him?, please. I didn’t say he wasn’t a good dancer. Maybe he wouldn’t want them, but he is getting some. All of these weeks have passed, now military officers are showing in the audience. Not that this is bad and I don’t mean it harshly. I have family that have served.
JR mentioned that Nicole S.was in the audience Monday night – did anybody notice the camera ever picking her up? (I didn’t)
I really liked her season – it was a case of the best dancer winning, even against some competition that would be expected to have good/better? fan bases (Erin A. – sports, and Evan L, Olympics).
Let’s hope for a rousing final with some great dancing among JR, Rikki, and Rob, who’s got to be the most improved. Cheryl has worked wonders with him.
I see JR and Ricki evenly matched up battling it out for 1st. I see Hope and Rob evenly matched up and battling it out for third. I’m hoping Hope will make it to 3rd place only if she and Maks have the better dance which is what it will come down to.
Oh and Marie, you remind me so much of someone else that use to post here…again.
A Derek fan mentioned on twitter that you can see Nicole talking to Ricki and Derek in some of the BTS footage during the results show. So, she was definitely there.
Margaret and EPmusic, I see both of your points. = )
I don’t think “sympathy votes” is the right way to phrase even a portion of JR’s voting population at this point. It’s might have been sympathy the first week, but I’d bet after that it became a combination of very good dancing, personality and his backstory. I said from day one that he was going to win the show unless he sucked – because of his story. People LOVE a great story. Now that we know he’s a great dancer too, he will be difficult to beat. And I’m okay with that.
Margaret,
And Ricki’s not getting any “sympathy” votes from viewers who identify with her as an overweight, over-40 year old woman? Believe me, I know a couple of those viewers/voters. J.R. is not alone in having fans/supporters who may be voting for him for reasons other than the quality of his dancing. Each one of the celebs does.
Margaret,
As for your comment about the military showing up in the audience just recently, I don’t think this was the first week that military personnel have been in the audience. There was a discussion several weeks ago on the ABC message boards where people who had attended the live taping of the show mentioned having seen service members in the audience. I would imagine the reason that they were shown this week is (a) Veteran’s Day is on Friday; and/or (b) they were friends of J.R.
Margaret said:
# MARGARET commented on November 9th, 2011:
Sandy:
I didnโt say all his votes were sympathy votes. You donโt think people who served in the military are voting for him?, please. I didnโt say he wasnโt a good dancer. Maybe he wouldnโt want them, but he is getting some. All of these weeks have passed, now military officers are showing in the audience. Not that this is bad and I donโt mean it harshly. I have family that have served.
****More military personnel may be showing up because it’s getting close to finals. I remember Hines having some Steeler players there almost every week and at the end it seemed like he had an entire section. Same for Bristol during season 11—she had rows of people that sat behind her immediate family.
If I remember correctly, during a season 11 interview Mark told her that she could request more seats for her cousins. (Some reporter had asked about a couple who was sitting near her dad thinking it was the brother & fiancee, but she said they were cousins and were there since her mom and little sister couldn’t be there).
I don’t honestly know how it works, but I do recall Shirley Ballas, Chelsie Hightower, and Shirley’s friends sitting in the “Palin” section (lol) watching them week 9.
JR doesn’t need sympathy votes–maybe if he was a crappy dancer—but he’s not! He’s where he is on his own merit & talents (and Karina’s).
Think about it … so what if military buddies are rooting him on? The K family is there for Rob, other soccer players are there for Hope (and they wore her shirt/jersey the week she did her first jive), celebs were in audience for Kirstie & Jen, and I already mentioned Steelers being there for Hines. Maybe a better complaint might be with the producers always putting the cameras on these people, but it’s good for the show and that’s their main interest ๐
Margaret, I think all the celebs/pros get a certain number of “sympathy” votes based on who or what they are vs. how well they dance. Sure, some folks with military connections are voting for JR just because he’s a veteran, and some viewers are voting for him because he was wounded in service to his country, but I’ll bet there are lots of people voting for him because they feel he’s the best dancer (and people define best differently). If he wins the MBT, I think he’ll win it on merit not on sympathy; and I’d be a bit disappointed if unhappy fans of the other celebs claim JR won on the “war hero” sympathy vote.
Voguerista, I just started posting a few days ago, so I guarantee I’m not who you think I am! For good or bad…
JR’s skin is an attention-grabber the first time you “meet” him. But what’s compelling about him is his awesome attitude. His life is an amazing demonstration of how to overcome difficulties and in so doing, encourage others to do the same.
He and Ricki might seem similar in terms of dance skill, but JR’s life story is such a gift. He shows us, week by week, how it’s done, which is through joy, positivity, focusing on others, laughing, smiling, doing your best, working hard. There’s no self-pity here, no “I’m a victim” mentality. Just personal responsibility for his own happiness in the face of adversity.
There’s no sympathy coming from this viewer towards JR. Just respect, admiration and gratitude for such a radiant example of how to live life right.
Plus, a soldier that can rumba is a winning combo.
Marie commented on November 9th, 2011:^ Buttercup, what if Hope does better than Rob? Are you still going to vote for him regardless? Or can you be swayed?
Marie, can YOU be swayed to just worry about your own votes and not try to put pressure on others to vote for Hope? ๐
I give the poor guy credit for being alive! Believe me, I wouldn’t attack his honor! If military were seen in the audience weeks ago as you say I retract my comment.
Courtney, what in my post indicated that I was voting for Hope? I was just wondering what the vote was going to be based on. I’m not trying to convince anybody to vote for anybody. If someone says who they’re voting for, they open themselves up to questions! That’s all…
Courtney,
Marie’s question strikes me as a reasonable inquiry. I’m also curious if voters are inclined to stick with their favorites regardless, or if they can be moved by an amazing performance. (I think most people have their favorites and just roll with that. = )
Yes! Looking forward to a JR, Ricki and hopefully Rob final, with JR taking the win. He and Karina are the total package this season. They have chemistry, they dance beautifully together and their having fun. Again imo, hopefully a JR, Ricki and Rob final.
Thanks, Colleen. I agree that people likely roll with their favorites. But it’s supposed to be a fun competition, so I say vote for whoever makes you happy, be it because of who the person is as a person or because of how the person dances. There is no record deal at the end and the celebs’ lives won’t be made or broke if they win the MBT or not.
I find fans of DWTS to be very interesting, because their motivations for watching the show seem to all be so different. I’m new to watching the show, so this is all a revelation to me… But you have the people who watch it for the dancing and those who watch it for a particular celeb. And there’s this constant battle between members of the two sides trying to convince each other of one thing or another, when it’s just never going to work! People who are watching for a particular person aren’t going to care if their dancing is atrocious, they just want to keep watching them. And then people who watch it for the dancing can’t understand how someone could cheer for a celeb who is a horrible dancer…
Anyway, too philosophical…
No, actually, Colleen and Marie, it is NOT a valid inquiry. Just because someone volunteers who they are voting for you do NOT have a right to question them about it. You can politely ask why – but you don’t get to ask if they can be swayed and then start talking about the dance quality. This show has never been about JUST that – now keep the discussion about the show and not who Buttercup or anyone else is voting for.
P.S. You can keep it general, if you like – but don’t start calling out individual people. We always get in trouble when we go down that road and at this point in the season we’re being a bit more strict.
Marie,
Your thoughts are not too philosophical! = ) I agree, vote for whomever makes you happy. I often like someone best who is not the best dancer because I’m pulling for them as a person, I like their ‘story’ or their ‘journey.’
People tune into DWTS because it lifts them up, makes them smile, let’s them chill. Different people find different qualities compelling in both the celeb dancers and in the pros.
Thank you, AGAIN, Colleen!!
Princess Heidi, I’m confused. How can someone offering who they are voting for be a valid post, whereas my asking how they decide their vote (one suggestion being dance quality, which is definitely referencing the show) is not a valid post? I’m not attacking anyone or how they choose to vote.. Like I said in a previous post, I think it’s cool to vote for someone based on dance quality, just like I think it’s cool to vote for someone based on who they are as a person. Vote however you want and use whatever criteria you want!
Also, I think I do have a right to question someone if they offer up information. Of course they have the exact same right to refuse to answer, which is totally cool.
Sorry to create drama if I did. DEFINITELY not my intention.
Sorry, Heidi, didn’t see your new “P.S” until after I posted. I’ll keep it more general next time…
Re: post #71. Not ignoring paragraph # 70, paragraph 2. Just posted #71 and then saw post #70 appear.
This is NOT a democracy. People can talk about the show and themselves all they like. What we are trying to avoid from here on out is talking about other posters. If you want to disagree with something that is said about the show, fine. If you want to offer your opinion, fine. But as soon as you start making your post about the other individuals on this board and not about the show, it nearly always leads to trouble.
I read your question to Buttercup the exact same way that Courtney did – as either the beginning of a campaign to get someone to change their mind (“can you be swayed”) or the beginning of another nasty fight. And I will not have that here. I’m done. Just handing out warnings to those veering close to that little line in the sand.
If this was not your intent, I suggest that you choose your words more carefully.
Princess Heidi:
Those parameters make sense. Sounds like there’s some history behind all this that newer posters are oblivious to.
Question: Are encouraging remarks permitted? If a poster agrees with something someone says can another poster mention that?
#Colleen- “People tune into DWTS because it lifts them up, makes them smile, letโs them chill.” Well that’s why I watch but after the dramas TPTB decided to focus on this season well…..I felt like I was almost watching a reality show the likes of “The Bachelor Pad”. Gag me. Must say I loved the joy Carson & Nancy brought to the show. They embraced all aspects. I really enjoyed Tristan. He is definately a class act. And although I fear saying this….I really love to watch Maks dance and loved his jive. Didn’t even notice Hope which I didn’t mind. Rob has been quite the surprise so I hope he is 3rd. Never would I have thought I would say that about a K. LOL
I’ll continue to read your site, because it gives great information, but I think I’m going to stop posting (I know, you’re so sad about this). I got attacked for nothing – and if you read my subsequent posts re: vote for whoever you want, you’d know I wasn’t trying to start a “campaign.” I think it’s great that you’re loyal to your longtime readers/posters, and it’s great that you’re moderating your site based on past issues, but I’m sorry that you automatically thought the worst about me because I’m a “newbie.”
So good luck to all contestants! And creators/writers, keep up the good work with your content. ๐
Rebecca W, Yes, that is why I got soooo huffy this season over Maks’ behaviour. Life is difficult enough, I really don’t tune into DWTS to see a “pro” mistreat his partner. I’m not talking about the squabbles that the pressure cooker of DWTS brings out of most couples at one point or another. There was something soooo angry and disrespectful about Maks’ attitude. That’s where it went really wrong for me.
I think most of us wanting a LITTLE drama, because that’s a normal part of the journey. But Maks’ misdeeds this season have been too heartbreaking to watch.
Bummer to see you go, Marie.
Heidi, I do think you might have rushed to judgement with Marie. I’m guessing there’s been drama in the past that new posters are unaware of.
In terms of how people decide to vote. For me, I came into this season thinking I was going to vote for Maks, predominately because of last season.
That very quickly changed for me to JR, with Rob running a close second. JR, not because of his story, but because he can actually dance, and Rob because he continues to improve and embrace the experience.
Carson couldn’t dance, but really entertained me and Chaz I admired simply for his guts and determination.
Nancy grew on me over the season, but Ricki and Hope never did.
So for me, voting tends to be about the best dancer in the season, not the personality in terms of pro or celeb.
I’m not one of those people who pick one dancer and vote for them the whole season regardless of what happens. My vote can and does change most weeks, but there are certain people that I will not vote for at all – if I’ve found them horrible all season long, I will not reward a final good performance. Rob on the other hand, I’ve only thrown a few votes to maybe once or twice. He was not and is not my favorite but he’s grown on me and I’d like to see him in the finals.
Princess Heidi:
What we now call the “United States” had actually been rolling forward for over 250 years before it established a constitution. The success and popularity of PUREDWTS has grown to a point where posters could really benefit from being able to read a set of rules for posting, especially those who are new to the site. This could be a box people check that says “I have read and understand the rules for posting on PUREDWTS.” This could be located beneath the spot where “NAME,” “EMAIL’ and “WEBSITE” are located. This way, everyone who participates here can self-regulate their content according to established standards. As it stands now, people are in danger of breaking a rule they don’t know exists until they are “busted.”
Those are the new rules and of course they are based on history – history that I feel Marie is very well aware of, based on reading all her past comments. If someone can’t be told of or warned about the rules after they’ve tread on them, intentionally or not, without walking away, that’s on them.
Of course you can agree with someone’s opinion – where you cross the line is if you then tell them they are the best poster ever and everyone else sucks. See what I mean?
While I have been thinking about doing a post about the rules, it should suffice for now if someone new is told that we don’t allow such and such behavior here. That is not an attack, but a caution. If someone sees that as an attack, then I suggest that they are far too sensitive to be playing on the Internet.
Buttercup, fun to read between lines on your last comment, so I think I know who you are not voting for. I always like to read your comments because of your “behind the scenes” knowledge. Thanks!
I have a question. When is the Macy’s Star of dance performance that everyone voted for going to occur?
vin, in the finale, I think.
and hope the couple is karina and maksim!!!!
LOL
That’s funny that you saud those two becuase I had to vote twice becuase I couldn’t decide between Cheryl and Derek and Karina and Maks so I voted twice.
Carlos and Vin, you are bad! lol
Carlos, lol. Poor Karina. I don’t wish that on her.
If you’re talking about Design A Dance, it is November 15th, which I believe is this coming Tuesday. Derek is doing a pro dance this week, but no clue if it’s this or something else. Either way, I feel like we already got a DaD out of Derek with Allison Holker. Don’t know if he could top that in the same season. ๐
Why do I think that even if the pros selected for DAD are Karina & Maks….one of them would back out lol. (Probably Maks).
Forgot to mention that Val & Karina would be interesting.
Nah, Guys… Maksim+Karina+Bad Romance+Paso Doble = Apocalypse! ahahahahha I really want to see this, as I wanted so badly see the paso with Mark and Sabrina (which was incredible, btw)
I do voted a lot for Maksim and Karina… BUT I know that even if they are the winners of DaD, the producers would put more 2 pros in the number… as they did with Derek, Mark, Julianne and Lacey on season 8 =]
(I think Jules and Derek won that, and producers add Lacey and Mark bc Jules and Derek danced the GBoFire jive pn the previous season)
Carlos, I love your idea. Last season I voted for both, Maksim and Karina. But I think it is just a distant dream. We will never watch this most expected Paso Doble of DWTS history.
So, I’ll be expecting to see Karina and Derek. It will also be fabulous to watch the best dancers of DWTS together.
Regarding the DAD, just a note that while we vote (sometimes all night long) for the show, Mark’s fans were using those hours to vote continually for Mark for the DAD until the site didn’t allow them to vote anymore. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s him & Lacey.
I hope so. As much as the pros might be honored to be chosen. I think that at this stage of the competition let the remaining pros concentrate on their own partners and their own dances. Just my opinion though. ๐
Isn’t the Ballroom Battle segments supposed to start soon?
We heard so much about that before the season started – not a word of it yet during…
Gitte, according to Louis’ Twitter, the Ballroom Battle has been put on ice for this season. He was very disappointed about it.
Mark said on Twitter he is going to be in Miami for 9 days, so assume he is not doing DAD
I wonder if they will have Louis back next season? It has to kind of hurt your ego to sit out this season while the 2 new HOT male pros have landed their spot on the pro lineup. Now Louis has lost the Ballroom Battle as well. *ouch*
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but after thinking about it for a few days, I’m putting it in writing – I think Louis would make a great 4th judge. His blogs have been quite fair, I think, and he understands constructive criticism from a competitor’s point of view. He definitely knows the rules of ballroom dancing, and I’d rather see if judge than dance on the show. He could still choreograph and dance in some pros dances also.
Oops – *see him judge*
I kinda agree with you Meggie. And I can’t believe I’m saying that either. But I’ve agreed with almost everything he wrote in his blogs this season.
I do think it would be a bit akward having Louis as a judge. Especially for the other pros…
I’ve always thought it was a bit weird that only 1/3 judges have done ballroom and/or latin competions. Nothing against Bruno or CAI and their opinions, which are valid.(most of the time anyway)
I think I feel that way because I’m used to something different in our version of DWTS here in Denmark. We have 4 judges like in SCD and until this season 3 of them were former world champions in either ballroom or latin and the 4th a very well respected danceteacher and choreographer, who amongst other things taught members of the Royal Family to dance.
This season our world champion in latin unfortunately couldn’t find the time to travel back and forth from New York where his dance studio is to Denmark. So we now have a choreographer/ballet dancer in his place.
Same here, Guys! I’d love to see Louis added as a 4th judge. I’ve really liked his blogs and thought he was fair in them.
Meggie,
I really don’t understand the rules of DwtS… I readed a book about ISDF rules, and guess DwtS is based on it, but, well, I never ever understood the DwtS rules. Seriously.
The lift, the 10s allowed to play during the dance… it’s just not clear IMO.
May you PDwtS crew help me on this? =]
I’ll let those in the know give a real analysis, but IMO there was ever any intention that DWTS be anything close to a real dance competition. It’s just light entertainment in the reality-show genre. They had to create some rules to give the show some structure, but I seriously doubt the developers spent much, if any, time with their noses in the pages of the ISDF rule book.
Carlos,
Courtney and Heidi are the two who would know something about the rules. I’m with you – you probably know more than I do if you’ve read a book about it. I said that Louis would know them because he’s danced on the show and also because he’s competed in dance the world; not that I think the DWTS rules and the competitive ballroom rules are the same!
*in the dance world*
Sorry guys, it’s been a long week. The brain and the fingers are not working in unison!
oops, that’s right, Maryt…..his fans stayed up all those hours for nothing ๐
I am thrilled to be rid of Nancy and her flaring nostrils. I like Tristen and hope he returns, but I have to admit, his constant fondling of Nancy was flat out creepy
I’ll just enjoy the remaining shows and don’t really care who wins
Loved Tristan and hope they bring him back next season. He took good care of Nancy and her strong personality.