Jaleel White Talks About The Dance Duel on Dancing With The Stars And More On The View
Jaleel was a guest on The View. He talks about how his parents convinced him to do the show. He dishes on the Dance Duel on Dancing With The Stars and how Kym pulled him through the dance last night. They ask him on he and Kym’s fight and he says they are fine and perfect. Lots more below including his thoughts on the custody battle he’s facing as well…
UPDATE: Below is Jaleel on Wendy William’s show this morning. He says Dancing With The Stars is a blessing and a curse. WHA?? Isn’t he going a little overboard saying the show is a curse? It’s not the show’s fault he’s in a legal mess, etc..
Dammit. Can’t see it here in Canada to check what I thought I heard him say about the 8:30 AM rehearsal. *grumble*
Call me confused. Sherri keeps saying they only have 2 days to prepare for main dance. I thought they practiced Wed, Thurs, Fri, Sat. And weren’t all the teams supposed to have a dance ready for the dance off in advance?
Rebecca those are my thoughts exactly.
Sherri is seriously full of either crap or hyperbole. They have four days for each dance and some of them even sneak one in on Sunday. I’ve seen them tweet about it.
Evaine, close to beginning he says that after they got their scores Monday blah blah “they told us they wanted us to be rehearsing at 8:30 the next morning.” Can’t tell if that means they got the word at 8:30 or if they were told to show up to rehearse at the time of 8:30.
sounds fishy either way – wonder if anyone told Gavin or anyone else to rehearse.
Talk shows and the media are so aggravating. Can’t they just leave him alone about the custody battle and the fight with Kym? Apparently not. Everything is their business! The ex should’ve worked this out with him quietly because it’s not our business and the media should’ve left it alone when they said that Jaleel and Kym are fine now. He isn’t going to say anything different than what he said already and it’s like they’re not hearing what they want to hear so they keep bugging him until they do. The tabloids are the most annoying people in the world!
Jaleel continues to give me such an off feeling. The gag order he put on his ex just makes him look that much the worse. IMO, he’s the one who wants to keep the wounds and the discussion to stay open on her and Kym. I think he loves this attention and he didn’t have to go on The View today.
Glad to see Sherri and Jaleel on the view today, two of many favorites on season 14. My girl Sherri got the boot last week. Hoping Jaleel is in for the long haul!
Good points Vogue! When he grabbed Kym’s butt Monday night I actually yelled at my t.v., “get your hand off her a**”! I’m just afraid with this dumb dance duel thing he might be around for awhile. π
Some have said that, They learn the new dance on Wednesday and Thursday, then Polish and tweek it Friday and Saturday, then they go over it again and Camera blocking on Sunday.
That should be common knowledge, Chance.
Maybe with traveling back and forth, Sherri and Val only ha 2 full days of learning the dance. She has said the “2 day” thing before. When she was at CBS studios, doing an interview, she did tell Jaleel, “See you next week.” Didn’t know she meant on the “view” though. It’s odd that Gavin is in NYC and they flew Jaleel out to do the View (he could have done a remote segment). Don’t they normally talk to the ousted contestant? Oh well.
Yeah, DWTS is (partially) a curse – but remember, based on another interview he did, he’s NOT whining about the media…. π The Jerk is telling so many different stories, he can’t keep ’em all straight.
Listen carefully….when he says it’s a blessing and a curse, Wendy says, “I agree”. SMH
I don’t understand the negative comments about Jaleel. I mean, of course, I don’t like some of the contestants, too. But most of the comments I read(on this site) about Jaleel are so subjective. I think people do get affected by media. If there wasn’t any of these stories about Jaleel(abusing his ex, fight with Kym), people wouldn’t find him creepy, weird etc.
I’m not saying “he definitely didn’t abuse his ex, definitely didn’t fight with Kym”. But who can say “he sure did”?
For me, whatever happened between him and his ex is just between them and until its proven, I’m not gonna believe it. And that fight with Kym. I don’t believe it. It sound ridiculous. Even if there was a fight, its not that important for me, because they seem like they get along now. And he seems fine with others, I don’t see any creepiness. He’s especially good with Donald but according to media, they should be enemies or something.
Of course not everyone’s gonna like Jaleel. Everyone has their own opinions. And that is my opinion.
Newsflash, Indigo: liking or disliking a certain contestant is a subjective matter, whether you want to believe it or not. Those of us who don’t like Jaleel aren’t being any more subjective than you are in liking him – so you don’t get to stand on a pedestal and shake your head at those of us who dare to think differently than you do.
“If there wasnβt any of these stories about Jaleel(abusing his ex, fight with Kym), people wouldnβt find him creepy, weird etc.” Ummm, NO. Not only are you trying to make blanket statements about an entire group, but if you actually paid attention to what a lot of the people here are saying, you’d see that they’re actually more bothered by how he’s handling the situation with his ex, as well as completely unrelated issues, such as grabbing Kym’s ass. The fact that he seems willing to talk about his legal battle with his ex to anyone that will listen, and that he changes his story every time he does is what’s unsettling to me. At first, I really didn’t think much of the legal battles with his ex, and I was even willing to give him the benefit of the doubt about the fight with Kym. But he continues to just dig himself further into a hole each time he talks about it – and that’s what’s bothering me. You can’t really blame this entirely on the media, Indigo – Jaleel’s doing his fair share himself to color people’s opinions of him.
And that is MY opinion. You’re not gonna agree, but you don’t get to take shots at me (or anyone else) for why I feel that way.
Indigo, there indeed was a fight. I tend to believe Chelsie more than Jaleel or anyone else who has commented on the show on this so far;
https://www.puredwts.com/2012/04/13/chelise-hightower-discusses-ringers-the-judges-the-dancing-with-the-stars-controversies-and-more/
And I agree with Court. We all have a right to our opinion. I guess if Jaleel didn’t have past issues with his temper, etc., I would give him the benefit of the doubt. Plus, he won’t keep quiet on it even though everyone else and his ex has. Seems very suspicious to me. But, hey…even before that, I wasn’t wild on the guy. He’s very arrogant and it’s hard to stomach when it comes out in his dancing. And yeah, him grabbing Kym inappropiately after their dance Monday night is a ‘tell all’ too. IMO, he only has himself to blame for people not liking him right now.
Hey, I was just writing what I think about Jaleel. My native-language is not English, perhaps my comment seemed rude, I don’t know, but I definitely didn’t meant anything like, “you are WRONG about Jaleel”. I like to argue(not sure if its the right word, I don’t mean it like “fight”) when opinions are different.
Of course liking and disliking is subjective. But in most comments, I read that its like everything Jaleel does is so bad, so wrong… You can keep writing about how wrong, how weird he is, but then I guess I can say “seriously, is he that wrong?” and write “I don’t think he is that wrong”. Especially, I read some comments about Jaleel’s dance and they weren’t that objective I think. Then again, if the word “subjective” bothers you, I apologize. By the way, I don’t know what “shaking head” mean exactly, but I think that its not a very good thing. So no, I didn’t read your comments while shaking my head.
I read a lot of comments and paid great attention to those comments[about Jaleel]. Yes there are a lot of other issues besides fight with Kym and his ex. But I didn’t want to write too detailed. I wrote what I think about him holding Kym’s butt on another topic. I’m copying it:
“By the way, I donβt think Jaleel meant to put his hand on Kymβs butt. If you watch closely, he wasnβt doing it intentionally. Yes, Kym holds his hand and moves away from her butt. But that doesnβt mean heβs abusing her or something. Remember David Arquette? He was always holding Kymβs hip, and she was holding his hand and moving away. But I donβt think he(david) was doing it intentionally, too because most of the celebrities hold their partners this way, looks like Kym is uncomfortable when someone holds her like this-which is pretty normal, I donβt understand how others allow their partners to touch those places, lol π .”
Again, I don’t know the meaning of “taking shots at someone”. But I feel like it’s not a nice thing and I don’t think I did that.
Jaleel & Kym are one of my favorites this season. I just wanted to write my opinion and yes maybe defend him a little bit. But that was all I’m trying to say. I wasn’t trying to say how wrong you are about Jaleel. Besides, I didn’t except any of you to agree with me anyway.
By the way, I didn’t saw your comment Voguerista. I’m reading it now. In my last comment I was talking to Courtney. Forgot to add @.
@Voguerista I don’t believe it was a very heated fight. Because I think if it was, they’d definitely show it in DWTS. Of course if the fight happened just 1-2 days before the show, there is a chance that they did not captured it. Because as far as I know, the rehearsal footage only shows first 3-4 days of the week. Perhaps I’m wrong? But then again, I remember that the report said the fight happened in Monday, I’m not sure though. Anyway, if it did happen on Monday, then they definitely have the video. But they didn’t show it, why? If it was Gladys I would understand because I think if Gladys says “no, you’re not gonna show it”, they can’t show it π . But I don’t think Jaleel is that famous, I don’t think producers would listen to him. I think there was a fight. But perhaps cameras weren’t open at the moment or it was a minor fight, all the guys involved in the fight made peace quickly, so it’s not valuable. Perhaps instead of showing it, they tried to boost ratings with an alleged fight. Maybe my comment looks like I’m so desperate to defend Jaleel. But I’m really not. I just find it kinda bit weird that they didn’t showed anything of the video, and if it wasn’t right after the ex said he was abusive, I’d probably be more suspicious about the fight with Kym.
Anyway, actually even if it was a bad fight or just a disagreement, I think Kym & Jaleel are doing fine right now. They get along and they’re entertaining together. I like to watch Jaleel. And of course, Kym is one of my fave pros(although I have many π ), always entertaining to watch. And I think she definitely wants to stay, she works hard this season.
Indigo, for what it’s worth, there has been some discussion on the “Kym seems to be OK with everything” topic. This isn’t just Kym – when has any pro said something bad, referencing a specific celebrity? Maks, for instance, says he is still in contact with “10 out of the 12 celebs he’s worked with”, or words to that effect. We are left to speculate about who… None of the dancers can afford to start “spilling the beans” about a specific celeb – first of all, their paychecks depend on how far they take a celebrity through the competition. Secondly, if they told stories to the press, would any potential celebrities want to work with them, knowing there’s a possibility bad stories would come out about them as well? So no, I don’t buy the “Kym seems OK with it, so I’m OK with it” line of reasoning.
And as for the other “subjective” criteria, well, I’ve listed my reasons in other posts. And by the way, NONE of my reasons have to do with Jaleel’s ex – for now, I completely discount that, because I think there are other motives (child custody, child support) involved. Like Miss Court said, it has to do with the way he’s handled the adversity, and the crappy way (in my opinion) he’s treated his partner.
I just have to say that this guy gave me the creeps BEFORE I knew about the ex story, and BEFORE I heard about the fight with Kym story.
I’ll probably get in trouble for this, but, I have to say I’m amazed that ANY woman would stick up for this douchebag!
BTW -Kym is my favorite female pro…and, of course, she can’t say anything, she has a job to do. My heart goes out to her!
@Sally, I understand what you mean. Of course pros wouldn’t say anything about their partners. But thats not what I was trying to say. I meant, I don’t feel anything like they have a problem, when I look at them. Yes, when I read comments, for a moment, I thought perhaps she’s faking it, perhaps she just wants this season to over. But then I thought, what if she’s really happy with her partner? They say they’re fine, the fight was exaggerated, what if they really mean it and get along with each other? Then it would make Kym sorry(and perhaps make her feel responsible) to not believe what they’re saying. Perhaps we’re being too protective about Kym. So, I thought “well, perhaps they’re really enjoying the show”, and to me, they look like they’re having fun, so I stopped thinking “is she faking”. Besides, even if she is disturbed by Jaleel, I think she probably talked to producers and now she’s protected really well.
There’s something though. I don’t think Jaleel looks like he did in week 1. I do think he’s enjoying the show, getting along with other celebrities&pros, supporting others(just like everyone else does). But sometimes he looks too tired & kinda fed up. But I don’t think that is about Kym, I don’t know much about him but as far as I know, he’s not very famous. He’s probably not used to all those media attention. I think he’s fed up with press.
@SherryJ, I understand that, because sometimes you like the contestant or you don’t like, or even hate him/her. But I think if there wasn’t any bad news about Jaleel, some people would still support him. Or, if those news would be about William or Donald, those people would hate them as well.
And can I ask why did you dislike him from the begining? I’m just curious π .
By the way, I realized I’m writing too long. But that’s only because I want to be clear, I don’t want to be misunderstood. Not because I’m trying to convince you to agree with me.
Indigo – OK, that’s fair. But I have a question: In several interviews he’s done I keep hearing Jaleel talk about how he’s so much more than “Steve Urkel”. About how much he’s been working in the entertainment industry, doing voice-overs, working on a Cee-Lo Green video, etc, etc, etc. He also talks about how “tech savvy” he is… But then he turns around and says things like you just did, like “Heβs probably not used to all those media attention.” Or, that he didn’t understand the impact of the tabloids. Or as you say, he’s “fed up with press”…. What?????? Isn’t that one of the main reasons people go on DWTS? To jump-start and/or re-vitalize their career? And even if Jaleel himself didn’t understand the impact of the tabloids and Twitter, didn’t any of his agents/managers/publicists??????? That’s EXACTLY what I mean when I talk about the way he’s handled the adversity – “you can’t have it BOTH ways”. In my opinion, you can’t talk about how much you’ve been working, then say you don’t understand the impact of the media. You can’t go on a show that’s been hyped for re-injecting 15 more minutes of fame into someone’s career then be fed up with the media. It’s simply not logical to me.
@Indigo, @sally…. I think that’s who…
Forgive me if I’ve missed part of your conversation, and Indigo, you do well with your English! Sometimes it’s refreshing to read non-native English speakers, because they do seem to be more careful about how they say things, while native English speakers get much more “sloppy” speaking and typing… π
While browsing, and not reading completely, about Kym and Jaleel, and other pros, and how they talk about their former and current celebrity partners….. I can’t help but think of Tony, and what he said recently about Kate Gosselin….
Most pros, other than Tony, are careful about how they say things.
Well, I understand that when the show first started, he probably see it as a re-vitalize for his career. And of course if you’re gonna compete in DWTS, there’ll be some media attention. But he probably didn’t think it would be like this. After the news, I think he got frustrated because first, there may not be a re-vitalize and second, some people are very sensitive when there is bad news about them. Suddenly, he became the bad guy of the show. I understand his frustration. But I’m not defending him here, I have to agree, he couldn’t handle the situation really well. I do think he should calm down and perhaps hire a new manager, then explain yourself better. Or maybe not explain yourself at all. But instead, I guess he just wanted to say what he really thinks, be open-hearted about everything.
Now I wonder what is his ex gonna do next?
Indigo – I guess we’ll agree to disagree. For me, the simplest explanation for all of his behavior (the rumored blowup, the multiple explanations, the “she forgot to zip me back up” retweet, the fake tears, the ass-grab) is simply He’s a douchebag. Maybe it’s just me, but your explanation seems more complex.
Lori – Tony trashed Kate? You wouldn’t happen to have a URL, would you? π
@Lori Thanks a lot for saying that about my English π .
“I canβt help but think of Tony, and what he said recently about Kate Gosselinβ¦.
Most pros, other than Tony, are careful about how they say things.”
Yes, but thats because they never had a partner like Kate Gosselin π . Lol, I love Tony, he was very funny in that video.
By the way, did Tony said anything about his other partners? I’m asking because I wouldn’t like to miss it :D.
@Sally I do agree that tweet wasn’t nice. But all the pros, all the contestants often shock me with their tweets/talks. So, if I’d dig that hard, I’d find a lot to dislike about others too. But again, not trying to convince you. Like I said before, of course its not like everybodys gonna like Jaleel, or some other contestant, I don’t find it odd or something that you don’t like him π .
Link:
http://theclicker.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/29/10926512-dancing-with-the-stars-pro-tony-dovolani-got-therapy-after-kate-gosselin
Not sure if video works.
Dont forget to read this, too:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-57408739-10391698/kate-gosselin-fires-back-at-tony-dovolani-and-anderson-cooper-over-dancing-with-the-stars-slam/
Simplest explanation is most often the correct one (Occam’s Razor) – He’s a douchebag.
THIS^^^
What PH said.
Well here’s my 2 cents for now because it’s a bit different than before like couple weeks ago. I was all for saying that the fight was completely exaggerated, Jaleel is a great guy, Kym’s fine with him blah blah blah…..
Today… I’m not too crazy about Jaleel 100% of the time like I was before. I’m just careful with what I say because so many people know I run a page for Jaleel and Kym and sometimes while I want to say negative things about Jaleel, I just bite my tongue although I do have my own feelings and opinions. I’m a person, too, you know. I just feel like I shouldn’t be talking to negatively about them and I run a facebook page and one of Kym’s friends who have been helping them is watching me. So I’m kinda in a difficult position. With the butt slapping thing, at first, I thought it was an accident but now I’m not too sure because even he should know that her waist isn’t that low and her behind is there. He was standing next to her, he oughta know where her waist is if he actually wanted to put his arm around him. That’s all I’ll say about that. You might’ve also noticed that he kissed her before he hit her behind. Not the first time. He did the same on a results show. I couldn’t see Kym’s face then but the night of the Samba, you can’t see her face right away but I’m kinda having a bit of a doubt that she was ok with the kiss and she’s obviously trying to force herself to brush it off when going to Tom and the judges.
As for his tweets, I did find some of his tweets a bit weird and kinda gross. I just won’t mention which ones lol. I just think he needs to show a bit more respect.
The media… well Jaleel was actually answering Wendy’s and Sherri’s questions about the ex and stuff but he did give a little bit too much details. He could’ve just tried to brush it off or something. We don’t even need to know about him going to court next month. It’s not our business! I just wished that whatever is going on with him and his ex, he would keep it between them. It’s private matter. The more he talks about it publicly on the talks shows, the more the hosts of those talk shows will milk more information out of him! I also think the hosts should’ve just stuck with dancing and not rumors and stuff but of course, they were just doing their jobs. I think their producers tell them what to ask him and what not to.
The issue on the press, I think Indigo was referring to the tabloids. He’s not used to tabloids trashing him or writing stuff about his personal life. I mean, I haven’t heard a lot about him personally since “Family Matters” got cancelled because the tabloids must not have been trashing him or trying to invade his privacy. Obviously, the tabloids have really changed now compared to the 90s. So I had no idea what Jaleel had been up to except a couple of small parts in “Big Fat Liar” and “Dreamgirls”. I think when you have small parts, the tabloids aren’t going to pay attention to you. Now that he’s on a really popular reality show and the tabloids are everywhere now, I think that’s why Jaleel is being paid attention to a lot now. Yes, he’s used to producing, directing, acting (but in small parts) and that kind of thing but probably not to the tabloids. I never read any tabloids about him before, not even 2 years ago when his ex filed a police report at the time. I was paying a lot of attention to the tabloids then.
Anyway, so I’m not having the same feelings about him as I was a couple weeks ago as I read his tweets, notice his behavior and watch his interviews.
Oh boy, I guess I did say some negative things now, didn’t I? Well, like I said, I’m a person too and that’s just how I feel. It’s nothing personal about Kym or Jaleel. Everyone have their own feelings about them. I do wish Jaleel and Kym luck and I’d love for Kym to get another trophy but I think that’ll have to wait another season. We’ll see how things go!
I agree he’s a D-bag for reasons I stated on other threads. The thing that really put it over the top besides his behavior on Monday was the gag order like Vogue said. On one hand I think it was lame for his ex to talk about domestic issues in the media because of the child, but on the other hand given the fact that she’s not a celebrity it may just be an attempt to defend herself. I saw an interview with her and she said something that rang true. She said that non-celebrities don’t usually stand a chance going up against a celebrity. I know of instances where a celebrity was sued by an employee or other non-celebrity. Even when the allegation against said celebrity was 100% true the non-celebrity ended up getting dragged through the mud. Jaleel tried to get a gag order put on his ex to shut her up, yet he’s got diarrhea of the mouth. He’s been going on every TV/radio show he can talking about all of the same issues knowing what he’s going to be asked. I think he wanted to make sure that his ex couldn’t speak against him or defend herself so that he was free to spin any kind of story he wants to about the incidents. He already knows Kym can’t or won’t say anything. Jaleel seems to speak in half-truths, if that much, and he blames everyone and everything else for any problem or negative issue that arises in his life. So I guess that makes him a mysogynistic,Β narcissistic D-bag…
And yes, right before the ass-grab he looked at his friends and then tried to kiss Kym on the lips, but this time she backed away and he was denied. I guess Jaleel figured if he wasn’t going to get a kiss then he was going to cop a feel of her ass…
I agree RJ!!
That makes lots of sense, RJ! Hate to say it but it does make sense. Before all this happened with the press, I thought Jaleel was really nice and had chemistry with Kym. He gave her shoes as a gift and made her laugh etc… The very first rehearsal photos showed they were having fun. Then once all this drama came in, he just started acting differently. I don’t know if this is his way of coping with the stress of being in the tabloids or what but whatever it is, he’s gonna have to pull himself together or he’ll be kicked off soon. Since we have the dance duels the next couple of weeks, the judges might make sure he stays in unless he dances in the duel again against Roshon, Donald or Katherine then that’ll be a tough competition.
just ick.
I wonder….. it’s possible that the contracts the pros sign with DWTS include a Non-Disclosure clause, stopping them (the pros) from telling bad tales on their celeb partners…. I’m just thinking out loud here, but it would seem to me that would help get celebs on board with DWTS (no, your pro won’t spill the beans about *fill-in-the-blank*, they’re contractually obligated not to)…
Just a thought.
My response, without actual knowledge, is of course they have a non-disclosure clause. Even if they didn’t, their job is on the line if they aren’t a professional. As a professional myself, I would NEVER badmouth an employee or co-worker outside my company – that is, to other people. That is just not done. You lose trust, for one thing, and not just with other employees, but with the person you’re doing the badmouthing TO.
@Sally – I mentioned this on another thread, but I would bet that everyone who works on DWTS has signed some sort of confidentiality agreement. It’s typically standard practice when working with celebrities. However, it seems like a strange dichotomy on a show in which cameras are on the celebs the whole time. The celebs will sign a release to allow themselves to be recorded the whole time, but my guess is that some celebs may try to negotiate some approval rights over footage if some rights aren’t already included in the standard contract. Obviously if the Hoff started eating a burger off of the dance floor during rehearsals he probably wouldn’t want that shown. If the producers opted not to show the footage or if the Hoff was able to squash the footage then the employees of DWTS would be bound by their confidentiality agreement not to talk about the Hoff eating a burger off of the floor. Or say if a former child star who unlocked his TV characters from an imaginary vault for purposes of paying tribute to them in a personal story week dance went apesh*t because his dance partner did not understand the true depth of those TV characters, then he may not want that footage shown because the footage might contradict the celebrity’s account of the incident that he’s been loqaciously spewing to every media outlet that will interview him.
:::snicker::: Good one, RJ.
Well played, RJ! Well played… π
And yes, Heidi, I get it – that’s not professional behavior. My point was that it also could very well be contractual.
@Liz(34), you made me really confused about that “grab”, so I watched it for 10 times or so π . To be honest I don’t see anything intentional. What I see is, he was moving his arm upwards(to her waist) but she was walking backwards, that’s why his hand landed on Kym’s rear. And when he moved his hand up a little bit(also Kym was moving his hand up) he kinda lifted her skirt and I think that’s why she rushed to push his hand away. After she pushes, she looks at Tom with a smile, like “did you see anything?”. And yes there was a kiss after samba but it was not forced or something-IMO. And if you’re talking about the result show after their rumba, as far as I remember Kym was also leaning for a kiss. I really hope I used “leaning” correctly. Anyway, I have to re-watch to be sure though.
But that’s just what I see of course, please don’t think like no matter what he does I’ll defend him. Because I’m not a fan of him. I didn’t know anything about him before the show. I just watched him in Psych and I love Psych, so I was thrilled that at last there’s someone I’ve heard of(even though its just a tv series 1 episode), in DWTS. Because most of time, -since I’m not American- I don’t know anything about the contestants. I knew Donny Osmond, Marc Dacascos and a few more but I didn’t heard of %90 of them. Once the show started, he(Jaleel) was my immediate favorite, because of his dancing, his personality and his partner π .
I didn’t wrote the last paragraph above like “hey, I’m the most objective guy on this website”. I just meant that I didn’t know anything about him before. Lol, I explain myself a lot don’t I? I’m always afraid to be misunderstood(and look like a super crazy Jaleel or Kym fan).
I may agree with you about his interviews, I didn’t watch Wendy’s show and didn’t read many interviews of him. But you said “its not our business”. Looks like its some people’s business since there were a lot of news about him. I’d like him not to talk about it, be cool. But I know some people would rather him to be open about it, explain himself. Still, I hope he won’t talk too much from now on.
@RJ(35) I’m not sure if its a non-celebrity/celebrity relationship issue. Because I read somewhere that she’s an actress(not %100 sure about this). Of course Jaleel is more famous(I guess) but perhaps she’s trying to get more attention by making headlines.
@RJ(41), but Jaleel White is not Hoff(I guess you’re referring to David Hasselhoff). I’m not sure but as far as I remember, Hope Solo was not pleased with the way they showed her in rehearsal footages. So, perhaps sometimes producers(or whomever prepares the footages) decide what to show/what not to show.
Hmmm, I’m having a very hard time believing that right now with all of your posts so far defending him?
Anyway, you can keep making excuses all you like, but, I’m not changing my mind on him in the least and I doubt anyone else will either. In fact, your posts for him just make me dislike his behaviors that much more.
You know, Indigo…the more paragraphs you write about Jaleel “not” defending him, the more you DO seem like a pretty serious fan of his. I mean, seriously – this would be like me saying I’m not a Derek fan. Maybe in order to be taken more seriously, you should quit trying so hard to convince people you aren’t defending him and aren’t a huge fan.
Voguerista and Princess Heidi, you really surprised me with your last posts. Yes he’s my favorite and I did defend him. But I was trying to say “I’m not gonna defend him on everything he does”. I said it because I was talking to Liz and didn’t want to look “ragious”. I don’t know how to explain it. I mean, if Liz thought “he won’t stop defending him” that would be off-putting for her and I just wanted to point out that I’m open to his/her comments about Jaleel.
Yes, I wrote long-very long paragraphs but I thought this is a free board(please don’t tell me thats not a board, I don’t know any other words than “message board”) where people can write their thoughts, opinions about anyone they like or dislike. I just thought I should write my opinions. I feel like I really disturbed you with my comments.
And seriously, how can I be a “serious” fan of him? I didn’t see him anywhere except Psych. I’m 20 and I don’t think that his show(family matters) aired in my country. So no, this is the first time I heard of him. Believe it or not. I wouldn’t back off from saying I’m his fan.
You make my point, Indigo. Yes, you can write your thoughts and opinion…but do I need to hear the same thing four or five times??
And no, I still don’t believe you aren’t a serious fan. You wrote three paragraphs to me just now – how can I take that as not fandom??
Wow. I’m totally shocked now. I kept writing because conversation developed. I actually stopped writing when you called him a douchebag. But then Liz wrote something and since I’m the one who started the conversation, I thought I should reply to her. And I wrote three paragraphs, just to explain myself better. Almost half of the things I wrote was about what I meant to say. Because I think, just because I defended Jaleel, members could get biased towards me.
@Indigo I’m not so sure about the actress thing. I believe she tried to move to Seattle a couple of years ago based on what Jaleel said. Seattle isn’t really the place to live if you’re trying to establish yourself as an actress, unless you’re already established like Elizabeth Mitchell.
I think you missed my point about Jaleel and David H., but you’re right in that Jaleel is not David H. The Hoff was a more respectful letch who to my knowledge didn’t create any drama while on the show, brief as his stay may have been.
As far as the ass-grab I don’t buy that it was unintentional. Jaleel and Kym have been dancing together for 6 hours a day for weeks. He should know where her waist is by now… Also when Kym removed his hand from her right cheek he just slid his hand over to her left cheek.
To all the Jaleel hater’s! How do any of you all know what’s going on behind closed door’s! Now we all know the pros have fooled around with some of the celebs! This happens every season! They dance together they hang out and stuff happens! Kym likes Jaeel and he likes her! Of course she didn’t want him doing that in front of millions of people that’s why she did that! Lay off that dude yea he’s cocky but i bet everbody is basing their opinion on his ex and the rift he had with Kym! My question to the ex why now?
Like i can’t remember who but a celeb buy’s on a pro a ring because she’s teaching him how to dance! Yea right! Lol! It’s a lot of hanky panky behind the scence! It’s one dancer was engage to one dancer then was caught in Vegas kissing another dancer! I bet the pro’s that’s not married had been around the block! So quit put them on a high horse they are human and so is Jaleel! Dang!
Y’all read too much of what that tabloids say and their actions. If Jaleel and Kym don’t have a problem with each other, then why make it an issue? The producers want some drama every season and surprisingly this season it’s not Maks and his partner. It’s them. They’re the Hope and Maks of this season.
I’m not ashamed to say I’m a Jaleel fan because I grew up watching Family Matters and loved that show. But his dancing and personality is not up to par with everyone except Melissa.
oops I forgot to add Gladys too. Love her but her dancing is ok.
@ten Don’t get me wrong, I’m not offended or anything but believe me, I wouldn’t be ashamed to say it if I were a Jaleel fan, too. Ok, then just to convince you I’m not afraid to be labeled as a “Jaleel fan”, I can easily say “I’m one of the biggest Jaleel fans” π . I hope that’s enough. If not I’ll change my nickname to “JaleelFan” π .
Jesus, a woman can’t even take a night off without the little troll-like people coming out to play. Mesha, we have rules about how you may and may not behave on this website. The biggest one is that you don’t tell other people what to do. You broke that one – at least I think so. Your punctuation was so bad it took me a minute to figure it out. Chill out or go elsewhere.
+1 Miss Heidi! I resent being called a “Jaleel Hater”. Just because we have disagreeing opinions and/or that we don’t like his dancing or support his personality or behaviors means we “hate” anyone. *sigh*
And Indigo, I’m not really appreciating the sarcasm in your last post either. You are riding the line. At first, I was giving you some slack for our language barriors, but, I’m starting to wonder if you are using that as a sly blanket way of attacking us and our posters? You are on watch bigtime.
Indigo – I just want to add in my opinion to the others here. I’ve read your posts, each of them saying “I’m not defending Jaleel”, then proceeding to do just that – defend Jaleel. I was reminded of a quote from Shakespeare – “Methinks thou doth protest too much.” That’s why I said we will just have to agree to disagree. You seem to have a unique explanation for most of Jaleel’s “bad acts” (though we’re in agreement that his retweet was a bad thing). Some of your explanations assume intent or facts we don’t know – for example, “he probably didn’t think it (the press) would be this bad”, or “what if they’re really enjoying it?” I, for one, just don’t buy into that.
+2 PH, +1 Vogue, +1 Sally
Frankly, I am very sick of hearing about Jaleel, period! But I do want to say this: If anybody thinks that Vogue could possibly be a Jaleel “hater”, they haven’t been around here very long! Vogue would never “hate” anyone. She is consistently kind in her comments and always gives people the benefit of the doubt. If she disagrees with something, she does it in the mildest terms with no hate involved. I know she doesn’t need me to defend her, but these commenters who turn on people just to get their point across really irk me. People are entitled to their own opinions. Live with it!
Indigo, move on! No more excuses on this subject or argueing. Your posts will be deleted from this point on and you’ll end being banned as well. Your choice.
RJ and Meggie, thanks!!
Crazy Jaleel lover who can’t spell just told me I suck. I’m devastated. π Sweetheart, go over to the ABC boards where they allow that sort of behavior.
Maybe, like I did, she was trying to type “SUCH”, and it came out horribly wrong????? Bwahahahahahahahaha! π J/K!
You’re welcome Vogue. Anyone who has read this board for any length of time couldn’t accuse you of being a hater. Since I suppose I was included in the hater category, I almost responded around 1 AM this morning to Mesha’s other post that was deleted, but I figured there would be no point. Plus, I had had a few cocktails and thought I’d best not.
I will say this for myself, I don’t hate anyone. I think most people who have stated on this thread and other threads that they dislike Jaleel have always stated their own valid reasons for not liking him. It’s not like the majority of those who dislike Jaleel are stating baseless, inane things like, “I hate Jaleel because he has creepy bug eyes.” Many who defend Jaleel also express their opinion along with well-stated reasons why they feel the way they do and I respect that. I always appreciate a well thought out basis for an argument one way or another, whether I agree or disagree, as opposed to someone who spews off senseless, hateful statements in retaliation just because he or she has a dissenting opinion.
Yeah, Meesha won’t be posting here any longer. Good idea to ignore her, RJ. π
π With some folks it’s just not worth the energy… So I’m guessing he or she might have said something like “PH sux’s”… I’ve always known about comma splices, but I’ve never considered apostrophe splices…
That’s what I love about this site… The moderators will take care of everything. Thank you everyone π