DWTS 15, Week 8 – Power Rankings
Not a whole lot to say about tonight, other than that everything felt incredibly frantic as they rush, rush, rushed to fit 14 routines into 2 hours (which was no bueno, considering the ballroom round was drastically cut short and the danced seemed to be over before they even started), and that the judges did their usual wacky scoring (which really means nothing, considering how close the margins are). Literally, guys, this is an even bigger battle of the fanbases this time, as there are even MORE points and even SMALLER margins than the week Sabrina got sent packing. So if somebody’s not getting the votes – methinks they’re pretty much doomed.
1.) Shawn & Derek – They’ve got the 2nd highest point total from the past two weeks, and in perhaps an even bigger advantage – a bunch of pissed off fans. Ok, so maybe there wasn’t a ton of samba in their trio – I still think there was enough there to warrant at least an 8, and it was still a wildly entertaining routine that actually evoked more of the excitment of a pro dance to me than just a regular dance with a celeb. The way Len was acting, it was as if Derek & Mark had walked center stage and defecated or something…while Shawn watched. And the whole “If you go home tomorrow night, don’t blame me, blame them!” comment? Was that REALLY necessary? Just felt like a low blow and not any sort of constructive criticism. I really think Derek probably knew they were taking a risk and choreographed more of a crowd/audience-pleasing routine than a judge-pleasing routine, intentionally – it was a calculated risk, maybe to jump-start the fans into voting. But I don’t think he was expecting Len to take it so personally. As for their Viennese waltz – despite it being awfully short, I thought it was quite pretty and very fluid, and Shawn had some butter-smooth turns and showed a lot of emotion. I think they’re probably the safest from the double elim tomorrow…seems like they’re getting a lot of votes and still pretty decent scores, in the great scheme of things.
2.) Emmitt & Cheryl – I find myself drawing a bit of a blank on his Viennese waltz, despite the fact that I have several notes written about it – “smooth & fluid, didn’t see the alleged mistake, not very high level of difficulty”. I daresay that it probably left me lukewarm: no big problems, and pleasant to watch, but nothing particularly impactful or impressive. Just as I said last week, I think the biggest problem I have with Emmitt at this point is just that he seems to have plateaued in terms of difficulty, and Cheryl really isn’t pushing him as hard as she should choreographically at this phase of the competition. Most of the other couples are pulling out all the stops – but Emmitt & Cheryl seem to be sticking primarily to the “Do easy choreo and just charm everyone’s pants off!” method. Their trio – ok, very cute, and I definitely enjoyed it more than I did Gilles’ trio….but 30? Really? I saw an awful lot of backleading & stationary ass-shaking going on…I think many other couples had much more difficult steps in their dances, and they did them with much more impressive execution. I guess the judges were maybe judging more on entertainment value than level of difficulty and content (unless your name is Shawn, in which case it’s ALL about content). I guess I’ve just kind of given up on trying to understand the judges’ motives at this point 😛 Regardless, I think he’s likely safe tomorrow, but things could get dicey next week…
3.) Apolo & Karina – So yeah, they’re still 2nd from the bottom in points, but they’re only 1/2 a point below Gilles and 1 point below both Emmitt & Kelly. And only 2 points off from Shawn…and in a week where we have 3 regular dances and 1 marathon dance factoring into who’s going home, those differences may as well be NOTHING. So I do think Apolo still has quite a real (and pretty damn good) shot at surviving this double elim…especially since, like Shawn, he seems to have a lot of fans pissed off on his behalf, and they’re looking to even up the score. But anyway – I liked their tango, and thought the zipline ended up being a nice touch (thought I was skeptical at first). I feel like he gave it 100% and there were no huge gaffes – although I could see Karina audibly mouthing the counts to him as they danced, so I guess I just thank my lucky stars they got almost a perfect score on it, because if a pro is counting that loud as they dance? Odds are they weren’t even close to having it down by dress rehearsal. As for their trio – all things considered, I think they actually had the highest degree of difficulty of all the trios in terms of choreography. That was a freaking FAST song, and they were changing positions and cramming a ton of steps & tricks into a relatively short dance. And best of all – even with a few small bobbles at the beginning, by the end of the dance, I was having a hard time telling Apolo & Sasha apart when they panned to the wide shot. They were THAT in sync. I guess that’s a testament to both Apolo’s skill as a dancer, and Sasha’s ability to reign in his own dancing when he needs to. Yes, I did just give Buddy the Acrobatic Elf a compliment 😛 I still think Apolo will probably be safe tomorrow, thanks to upset fans and teeny tiny baby margins 😀 KEEP VOTING, THOUGH!!!
4.) Kelly & Val – Note to male pros: if you’re going to make the risky move of putting floats on your female pros costume (those filmy scarf things Kelly had attached to her sleeves), either make them so small that they barely move, or make sure your female celeb has an impeccable frame and arm styling, or else the dance is going to look like crap and she runs the risk of getting blinded by her floats when she turns quickly. I can’t tell you how many times my boyfriend has had to talk his female students out of wearing ballgowns with floats for those very reasons. So that was strike 1 with their Viennese waltz – strike 2 was the many turns Val had Kelly doing, which is becoming tiresome. Yes, we know Kelly is good at turns – that doesn’t mean that 80% of your routine should be devoted to her doing them, and doing them rather frantically, at that. The best word I could use to describe that Viennese waltz was “thrashy” – it just kinda gave me whiplash watching Val power Kelly through all of those spins & turns, and then it just struck me as awkward how forcefully they were punching their arms out. What happened to the flowiness & fluidity of the waltz? I think they should be thankful the judges (Len in particular, except with Shawn) were feeling rather generous this week, because I would have called that out for being too repetitive & jerky. Oh, and there was a lift…that Carrie Ann conveniently didn’t mention. Damn smoke monster. As for their jive – it was cute, but I still thought Apolo’s had more content and overall more energy, as it looked like Kelly didn’t really start to pick her feet up until the very end of the dance. There were also a few rather frantic transitions – the Kelly-Val kiss seemed like it was almost a mouth-to-chin or mouth-to-nose kiss, since they didn’t quite land right. Can’t say that I really noticed Louis much. I’m gonna go ahead and call them safe this week, but I’m not 100% confident in that…I still don’t know that the soap fanbase can compete with the Olympian & NFL fanbases…but my gut tells me they’re likely getting more votes than at least Gilles, and possibly Melissa. Bah…who knows.
5.) Melissa & Tony – I know some of you are probably slack-jawed at this one, but I’m getting a bad gut feeling that Melissa may be suffering from Sabrina Syndrome – a great dancer that’s getting near-perfect scores, but maybe isn’t getting the votes they feel she deserves. I know people say “Oh Melissa is getting the votes!” but no one has really been able to specify where they’re coming from – is it residual fans from season 8? Bachelor/Bachelorette fans? Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader fans? None of those seem like large enough or general enough fanbases to compete on the all-star season. I just don’t know that Melissa has a very specific (and large) demographic voting for her. But, she has almost near-perfect scores…even if I’m not sure her dances were quite that perfect. I liked her quickstep much better than Gilles’, but I’d be lying if I said that I didn’t think the intro was rather rushed & frantic, and that I think I saw her lose sync with Tony a few times. I also felt like you could drive a boat show between she & Tony when they were in hold. I think I would have given it a 29 or a 29.5, relative to other routines tonight, but I don’t think it was perfect. As for their trio – I actually think they best embodied the concept of “trio” tonight, as I felt like Melissa did a really good job of dancing with both Tony & Henry individually as well as with the two of them at once. They also had a great deal of content – and impressive content at that, and she handled it well. If someone had to get a perfect score for their trio tonight, I would have given it to Melissa. I was a little confused by two things, though – the random yell in the middle, and Henry’s awkward, off-in-the-distance pose at the end. Not sure I would have made the same choices, haha. Anywho, I REALLY hope I’m wrong about Melissa, and that she’s getting the votes she needs to stick around – because I do think she belongs in the finale. But I wouldn’t be at all surprised if she wound up in the bottom 3 tomorrow.
6.) Gilles & Peta – Ai ai ai…what can I say about Gilles that I haven’t already been saying for 8 weeks, other than “I hope he gets sent home, because he irritates the crap out of me”? Their quickstep – I don’t necessarily think it was BAD, because he did seem to stay on-time for the most part, and they did a lot in-hold. But it just felt…HARD to me. Like Gilles decided to forsake the bounce of it in favor of hard-hitting stomping. He also seemed to get a little bit ahead of the music, and had to halt his feet a bit in order to catch up to Peta. As for their trio – no big surprises here. I think Gilles made it too much about himself and not enough about the trio as a whole. The solos he did seemed to dominate the bulk of the dance, and I thought there was too much time spent having Peta & Chelsie do weird things in the background (sitting at tables, rolling around on the floor, flipping their hair) for this to be truly called a trio. I also saw him almost drop Peta when he went to pick both ladies up off the floor at the same time. Needless to say, I thought Emmitt’s was better – they at least tried to make the dance about the 3 of them. As for their scores – they were overscored. I don’t really have much more to say than that. As for whether I think he’ll stick around – it could be wishful thinking on my part, being optimistic about him going home tomorrow, but at the same time, I have the same problem with Gilles that I do with Melissa: I have no idea where their votes are coming from. If anything, I think Gilles has alienated a lot of people, and may have progressively lost voters as the season wore on. I just don’t know – but wouldn’t it be a deliciously “shocking” elimination if the guy that wanted to win sooooo badly this season got axed two weeks before the finale? I’m fully expecting to either see him in a faux jeopardy or a real bottom 3.
7.) Kirstie & Maks – Sorry to say it, but I think Kirstie is likely toast tomorrow night. Normally I’d say her fanbase could save her until next week, but the problem this time is that she’s got to surpass TWO other couples in order to stay…and even with small margins and decent fanbase, I’m not sure she can. I liked her Viennese waltz, for the same reasons I like her rumba two weeks ago – very simple and pretty, without any errors. However, like Emmitt, I don’t think she’s really stepping up the choreography enough to be very competitive at this phase of the competition. I had similar sentiments about her paso trio – it was a valiant effort, and she didn’t mess up, but I don’t really feel that there was a whole lot of content for her to mess up to begin with. Granted, they handed her a pretty hard song (which I really think should have gone to Melissa instead), but when you look at it next to the difficulty levels of some of their other trios? It’s just not quite up to snuff…and I think that’s really what the judges are looking for at this point. So I think we’ll probably see Kirstie getting cut first tomorrow night, barring any big shakeups – and yes, I do think there is potential for some shakeups. Guess we’ll wait & see.
So what two couples do you guys think we’ll be losing tomorrow?
Wow, you’re fast, Courtney! Thanks for getting this up so quickly.
My rankings:
1. Shawn and Derek
2. Melissa and Tony
3. Kelly and Val
4. Emmitt and Cheryl
5. Apolo and Karina
6. Gilles and Peta
7. Kirsti and Maks
Obviously loved Shawn, Derek and Mark’s trio. I’m happy Derek is choreographing for the viewers because it makes the show SO much more enjoyable. Loved Melissa and Tony as well. I love her spirit and the effort she puts in. Gave all my votes to them tonight.
I know a lot of people on this blog love Apolo, but I just don’t. He’s just not doing it for me. I just feel like he’s not keeping up this season. Thankfully though, Kirsti isn’t a great dancer and I just hate Gilles. Emmitt and Kelly are just in the middle for me.
Great analysis as always…. I believe Kirstie will go home tomorrow and then Emmitt or Gilles. I hope it is Gilles.
Hoping and praying that the ballroom turns into Medieval Times tomorrow night. There is a joust and the Lord of Douchery is sent packing. He can fight Val and they can both take each other out!
I think Kirstie and Kelly should go. I hope Kirstie and Guilles go b/c I feel nauseous everytime he is on my screen this season.
Wow, I don’t know where to start? What a night!!
1. Melissa and Tony – Never did I think I’d be putting these two in first place tonight, but, they and Henry wowed me in every way. Tony and Melissa’s individual dance was fast, furious, and completely jaw dropping FUN! The trio dance was powerful and fierce. Melissa indeed commanded the two guys. So much passion by all three and such cool choreogrpahy! Loved them! 30, 30
2 Shawn and Derek – Shawn and Derek were flawless, elegant, passionate, and full of emotion in their individual dance. The Trio dance was truly “jungle fever”. Such hot, clever, entertaining choreography. I loved the theatrical element and how different it was. I was totally wowed and I had the moment I was hoping for tonight (I had it again later with Tony and Melissa). Thank you Shawn, Derek, and Mark! 29.5, 30 (Shame on Len. If these two get eliminated, he should feel ashamed of himself. Sad, just sad!)
3. Apolo and Karina – I felt just a little disconnected with their individual dance, but, otherwise these two were off the hook and full of passion, a fierceness, and lots of power. The trio dance with Sasha was a blast to watch. I especially loved the leg twirls on the ground which show up when Sasha is around. Very clever. 29.5, 29.5
4. Val and Kelly – I wasn’t expecting these two to come out so strong and relaxed for both dances, but, they did. I loved Kelly’s arm extensions and Val’s creative, romantic choreography in their individual dance. She was so light and pretty on her feet. She was fast and such a joy to watch in the trio dance too. 27, 28
5. Emmitt and Cheryl – What can I say except that Emmittt charms me every time. He might have been a little stiff at times, but, his smile and love of the dance floor always prevail in his performances and he’s such a joy to watch. 27, 27
6. Kirstie and Maks- Wow, I just loved Kirstie and Maks first dance. I thought it was perfect. I loved her fluidity,smoothness, elegance, and all the passion. Perfect. However, the trio dance was a different story. It was fun to watch and she is so fun and full of heart, but, she was also so exhausted. It was hard for her to keep up. 27.5, 24.5
7. Peta and Gilles – I’m having a hard time judging these two again. Both dances were just weird for me and lacking. Their individual dance was too fast to fit the song and he was clumsy in places. And again, he tried so hard to be sexy in both dances, that it doesn’t happen. He made several mistakes in the trio dance too and yet they judges give him 10’s. I just don’t get it. 26, 25.5
As for who will be eliminated, like Court, I’m worried for Kirstie the most. The trio dance hurt her. I’m hoping it’s Gilles to be eliminated as well as neither dance was all that.
Thanks Court and I can’t wait to read what everyone thinks and to read Heidi’s numbers post tomorrow.
I pretty much know Kirstie is toast. However, I think Emmitt could be joining her. I know he had a great week this week, but he has been sort of “hit and miss” with some of his other performances. He sort fades into the background for me, I’m afraid.
Clean it up Elizabeth or you’re out of here.
Agree, does Len really think that Gilles deserved those two tens, when Carrie horny ann actually get the courage to say something to Gilles is because it sure wasn’t good, that salsa was just stuped, the solos were weird and the rest it was just him standing there as usual.
We all know Len likes things tradicional, but he has no standers. I used to think that he was just being hard on Derek, but now I think he don’t like Shawn, I remember a video of him mad because Gilles lost and Shawn won. I’m starting to think he doesn’t want her to win so he keep over scoring his season 8 favorites.
Kelly was just out o time in that jive, her hands and feet were lazy
I guess the only good thing that came out of Len’s 7 is it made me create more email accounts and vote more than ever for Shawn. I hope it’s enough and I think Kirstie and hopefully Gilles are going home.
Thanks Courtney for the post 🙂
Well, I did about as much voting as I possibly could. I, like Courtney, am pretty sure that Shawn and Apolo are safe. But that doesn’t change the fact that everyone needs to vote. Anyways, I thought the dances were actually really good this week, but I couldn’t stand the judging. I wish I could do what I keep telling myself: “Ignore the judges. Just enjoy the dances, glitter, and vote your booty off.” Unfortunately I still found myself THIS close to putting my foot through my screen at a certain point. Le sigh…I’m working on it lol
Shawn & Derek- I also didn’t like how the ballroom dances were so short. The Viennese Waltz from these two was absolutely stunning. Very emotional, but very smooth, lyrical, and musical. My favorite from the ballroom round. I disagreed with Len here. If they only did that amount in hold in a regular sized routine? I’d understand. But since that routine was so incredibly short, I’d say the amount of hold they had will do just fine. Her samba?? Yeah, more samba content wouldn’t have hurt. But at the very LEAST, I’d say 8.5 or 8. A 7?? Yeah, Len doesn’t have ANYTHING against Shawn & Derek. *end sarcasm* Anyways, fantastic routine. Innovative, creative, beautifully executed, and it did have some legit samba in there , even if it wasn’t a lot. I’d give both dances a 30, but I can understand one giving the trio a bit less for lack of content.
Emmitt & Cheryl- I don’t know about this one Courtney. I’m not feeling quite as confident in Emmitt. While he did pretty well this week, he still doesn’t quite strike me as standing out. But I guess I do worry for him less than Melissa and Kirstie. And I think he’s got a better shot of making it than Gilles and Kelly. Anyways, as for the dances: His Viennese waltz was absolutely charming. A bit sloppy and lower in difficulty, but charming and pretty good overall. His salsa made me smile. It was great fun, energy, felt like a group effort, and had great rhythm. However, I think there was way too much dancing around Emmitt for it to be a 30.
Apolo & Karina- Apolo did really well in both rounds I think and he should be okay this week. His tango was very strong, passionate, and crisp. I think I saw a few tiny mishaps, but overall, I’d say it was one of the top 3 of the first round. His jive was pretty good too. He needed to pick up his knees a bit more and some kicks were a little sloppy, but I think he did a great job dancing next to a male pro and he stayed on time and danced with great energy. Hoping these two make it.
Kelly & Val- I thought Kelly’s waltz was pretty, but like Courtney, I felt it got too jerky in spots. Just because she’s “feeling it” doesn’t give her a pass. There’s little to no excuse for moving so sharply in a Viennese waltz IMO. I can name off couples like THAT who felt their waltz, but moved like butter and with total smoothness. Anyways, other than that I liked it. Her jive was cute, but she too needed to pick her knees up and she got off time in one or two spots. Good job, but she still needs to step it up a bit.
Melissa & Tony- While these two still seem to lack a bit of impact, they are just a breath of fresh air and pleasantness 🙂 Love watching them. The only thing that kept their quickstep from being a 30 for me is that I felt Melissa could have moved quite a bit bigger. A lot of the moves were tiny. But I loved it. I liked her trio, but it’s still a bit too delicate and pretty for a Paso IMO. That being said, I too think she, Henry, and Tony hit the nail on the head when it comes to what a trio dance is. Good mix of dancing as a trio, and then splitting off while always highlighting Melissa. I REALLY hope Melissa’s safe, but like Courtney, every time I think of Melissa, this little voice in my head whispers “Sabrina” and it’s really bothering me…and creeping me out 😛
Gilles & Peta- I somewhat liked their quickstep. It was fast, difficult, full of energy, and had plenty of content. However, I felt he gets a bit too excited and he ends up getting sloppy and hectic because of it. I also think he got ahead of Peta on a couple of spots. I can’t say I liked his salsa at all. He should be highlighted, but it did not feel like a trio. It felt like “Lord Douchebag and two random chicks acting like they think he’s attractive when they really want to hit him in the face with a hammer and/or drink a few gallons of bleach.” I wish Chelsie would’ve gotten chosen by a different couple 🙁 Anyways, he had good hip action and good rhythm, but that’s really the only positives I got. Hoping he’s one of the two to hit the road tomorrow night.
Kirstie & Maks- I hate to say it, but Kirstie is in some trouble, which sucks, because I’d rather have her around than Gilles for sure and maybe even Kelly or Emmitt. I thought her Viennese waltz was her best besides her rumba. Light, touching, very smooth, and beautiful in hold. However, I do think she needs to extend her arms a bit more. Still, lovely dance. She had a tougher time the trio round, things got a bit sloppy, but I admire her effort. Really hoping by some mircale she passes up Gilles and Kelly.
Thanks for posting – always great to hear your thoughts and those of everybody else. Can’t really top them, but wanted to throw out a few observations as I watched the show:
I was just meh with Shawn & Derek’s first dance and was sort of half listening when Len started to give his critique – and then thought I had flashed back to season 11 and his comments on Jennifer & Derek’s Waltz. I had to go back and watch their dance and his comments “You know, sometimes a whisper can speak louder than a shout. It was quiet, it was delicate, it was poignant”. And for Shawn “Sometimes a whisper is louder than a shout. And this was quiet, it was gentle … poignant”. It was just a strange deja vu moment.
I liked Gilles comments to Brooke about how the American’s role in the war changed his country and his life. It’s a nice reminder that this is just a dance show.
There was a video of len mad that shawn won…I sure would like to see it. I know it would explain a lot of things…but I am kind of one of those people who has to see if for myself.
By the time the show was over tonight, all I could say was “Something is really fucking weird with the scoring this season”.
Shawn/Derek – that VWaltz had me transfixed from the beginning. Loved the story, the staging, the costumes, the choreo, the performance. It was so beautifully haunting. Wonder how many of the soldiers in that audience today remember feeling that. And that trio was sick – I think my heart actually stopped while I was watching it. I was infuriated by Len’s comments – threatening her with elimination was completely unnecessary. It makes me rabidly angry how he judges everyone EXCEPT Shawn and Derek on the performance quality – the caliber of that dance was incredible, and while there wasn’t a lot of samba content, what WAS in the dance was executed perfectly. But Shawn was classy as always and shook all the judges’ hands.
Apolo/Karina – God DAMN, does aggression look fantastic on Apolo *_* that tango choreo was SICK, and he performed it beautifully, he was attacking and saving Karina at the same time and I totally wished I was her (can’t believe I agreed with CAI on anything). And in the beginning of the trio, I was a little apprehensive, but by the end, watching him and Sasha was like seeing a cell that had just mitosis’d. It was brave of him to pick a man, but it paid off – he actually matched Sasha!
Emmitt/Cheryl – who? Can’t honestly say I saw his ballroom dance (I was running around voting for Shawn and Apolo), but when I saw he was dancing with Kym, I thought, wow, he’s got the two most boring dancers (IMO, sorry, I know a lot of people here love Kym)…and nothing about the trio dance (except Kym’s shoes) even drew my attention to the screen. And in what I did see, he didn’t do much of anything.
Kelly/Val – the VWaltz costume was beautiful, though I don’t see what the Greek goddess thing had to do with honoring veterans. And seeing Val in what is a LATIN shirt just made me think “Love Val, but tired of seeing his titties”. The VWaltz looked forced, and they need to stop with the spins. We already know Kelly can spin because that’s all they’ve been showing us all season. And the trio jive was, I guess, good and fast, but ugly – all I could see (besides, again, Val’s titties) was her lack of actual rock on her rock steps. And then when they gratuitously kissed, the partnership became vulgar. Maybe I overreacted, but that didn’t have to happen.
Melissa/Tony – loved the quickstep, SO cute. Paso was good too. Only thing is, it literally felt like nothing when the scores were given for both dances. I’m glad they did so well, but I’m just not sure how warranted the 30s really were.
Gilles/Peta – this guy revolts me like no one in this world has. The quickstep was good, but didn’t deserve that praise or those scores. I was furious (though unsurprised) when CAI pointed out his bobbles and Len agreed with her – and then gave him a perfect score. And the salsa trio was actually disgusting – reminded me of Levy’s freestyle. And, of course, he got a near-perfect score for definitely getting Peta and Chelsie pregnant. (Sorry for the graphic interpretation…it was just that GROSS to me.)
Kirstie/Maks – hilarious to watch. Loved the military dame look on her, and giggled a little bit at how Maks looked like he could cut glass 😉 but eh. Same with the paso. I was surprised Maks and Tristan got away with all their parts intact.
I’m hoping hoping hoping for Gilles to leave…
It’s a paparazzi video, Lynne. He was pissed. I had forgotten about it until someone here mentioned it. I think it was one of Pap Henry’s videos. He was pretty blunt.
Thanks for posting! I agree that the evening felt rushed and frantic. As much as this double elimination worries me, it is needed.
My rankings:
1. Melissa & Tony
2. Shawn and Derek
3. Apolo/Karina & Kelly/Val
5. Gilles & Peta
6. Kristie & Maks
7. Emmitt and Cheryl
I feel bad for putting Emmitt and Cheryl last but I honestly just felt like he didn’t push himself much at all this week. Where was the difficulty? I was so shocked that he got a 30 on that trio. He hardly moved at all! The girls danced around him and even at that they barely covered any room on the dance floor. At least I feel like Kristie, while certainly not the best, is absolutely pushing herself to her limit every week. He seems to do mostly the same dance every week and hopes his charm will do the rest.
I predict that Kristie and Emmitt will go. I could be very wrong though. On paper, she’s a very well known actress and he is a hall of famer NFL player. They’re fanbase could push them through. If that’s the case, I’m really nervous for Melissa.
I also think that Kirstie is toast. Hope that it’s The Douche Lord who is the second, but doubt it – I think some people still are holding on to his image in his previous season and will vote for him (like my mom, who doesn’t go on the interenet and has comments like “he dances well and is hot”). Emmitt – so-so, Kelly – weird arms and feet in the jive. I think Shawn will be saved by the pissed off fans, because the samba was absolutely awesome, and I also think people love Melissa because she is a great dancer with great attitude. Somehow I just cannot shake the feeling that Apolo is in real danger – hope I’m wrong…
I was on another board (which is basically Derek Haters Headquarters) and they are screaming that the trio samba was offensive. Really? I didn’t see anything offensive about it.
Knew Melissa was going to be a 60. They are propping her big time. I hope it doesn’t work.
@Sueb, I had the exact same deja Vu moment with Len. As soon as he said it I knew it was the exact words he had said to Derek and Jennifer.
I couldn’t make it through tonights show. I will watch what I missed on U tube. I had to stop watching in the second hour after Shawn, Derek and Marks trio. I was way to angry at Len and not only his score but what he said that I had to get up and go clean my kitchen, slamming things around the entire time. Then I voted for them like crazy.
Thanks for being so quick with this info…:)
I was a little down before the show came on but by the end i couldnt stop smiling.
My rankings on who im rooting for
1.Kirstie and Maks (When Kirstie started laughing I did too i couldnt stop for the longest time)
2.Melissa and Tony
3.Shawn and Derek
4.Val and Kelly
5.Apolo and Karina
6..Emmett and Cheryl(I felt like he was overscored on both dances)
7.Gilles and Peta(I love Peta but im kind of iffy on him)
I would like Emmett and Gilles to go home tmrw but I fear Kirstie might go but god i hope not.
Thank you for the Power Rankings. Great reading as always! I think the problem for me tonight was that the dances were not long enough. I just started to get into them and they were over. I enjoyed Shawn and Derek’s dances. I think Len has some kind of grudge or something against Derek. He has been mean to him all season and has totally underscored their dances. The trio dance with Mark was very exciting and well done and I enjoyed it. I also loved both of Apolo and Karina’s dances. Melissa and Tony were also very enjoyable to watch although the trio dance was not my favorite. These three couples should be in the finals in my opinion. As for the elimination tomorrow any of the other couples could go home. They weren’t memorable dances. I wonder what happened at the beginning of the show. I saw someone run away from the judges table and then they went to a lot of commercials and then Tom said there was a technical problem and all the couples were standing there.
Great notes. A Melissa fan but wonder how large a fanbase.
Hate burst the Kelly fans’ bubble, but I seriously don’t give a shit about “Jasam” or “Liason” or any other soap opera couple portmanteau. I wasn’t even watching GH at that point – I was kinda tied up with a little thing called “college”, and I simultaneously had something called a “job” that kind of zapped my free time. While some of the Kelly fans were spending their days waging war against the Liz fans, I was just trying to pass organic chemistry & make enough money waitressing to pay my rent. I think it’s safe to say a soap opera couple’s fate was the furthest thing from my mind. Go back to the drawing board, disgruntled Kelly fans…cause that theory is pathetic.
To those who are able to post here without losing their shit – thank you for stopping in and helping to generate some great discussion 🙂 You are the ones that make it fun for me to write!
Again Shawn’s samba actually had a decent amount of samba! No it wasn’t traditional but none the less had content. I mean at this point show me fun routines- this isn’t a true ballroom competition..I’m telling you all these people who complain about not enough content will be complaining next year when they can’t remember one dance performed..ie no more Hough.
Chiming in on Len’s grudge on Shawn winning season 8. If you watch the video of when the champions are announced, you can clearly see Len’s grumpy face, muttering something and shaking his head to the other judges.
I would LOVE to see his reaction tomorrow if Gilles gets the boot. Yes, I’m still pissed.
All my votes went to Apolo and Karina. He is the most improved male celeb this season and always brings his 100+%! Hope he can make it to the final.
Well that explains it all then doesn’t it Heidi, about how he is scoring gilles vs. shawn…he is an even bigger arse than I thought.
I have to know…was I the only one delirious with laughter at Gilles’ reaction when he saw he didn’t get all 10s?
Nice review of the dances. Overall I found tonight disappointing the dances just seemed too short.
I loved both of Tony and Melissa’s dances. Their Paso Trio was my favorite of the night. I have all of my fingers and toes crossed hoping they make it through the elimination. Ilove them and really want them in the finale.
Apolo and Karina were good also and I’m really rooting for them as well. I was disappointed with their Paso as Apolo didn’t seem to be the focus but he danced well and was not overshadowed by Sasha.
Emmitt was really over scored. Kelly was really sloppy in that jive imo. Her arms and feet were just weird. Kirstie is just done imo. She tries but she is just not up to par with everyone else. She’s a fun lady but she needs to go.
Shawn’s Viennese Waltz was lovely and I really enjoyed it. Their trio on the other hand…I really didn’t like it. I know I’m going to be in the minority on this board with that opinion but it just wasn’t that great to me. Shawn danced well but I would have preferred more Samba content. I appreciate the thought of trying something different for the Samba but for me it just wasn’t a success. Also I found Mark to be especially irritating tonight…jmo.
What a crazy, fast-paced show. It all started with the space shuttle landing. Man, what would we do without Tom? By the time the show actually blipped on to my screen, I had voted for Apolo in every way possible. I seriously considered “Trick or Treating” my neighbors and using their phones and computers. Goodbye Gilles, and or Emmitt, and or Kirstie. But please Lord, let it be Gilles, and let Apolo hang around. He brings it every week, and is so underscored and under-appreciated–by the judges at least.
@ Courtney…Sunglasses at Night is a song I’ve always been hoping to see on DWTS !!
Also, Tom said something about a twist in tomorrow night’s results show. Any idea what that means? Or maybe I heard him wrong?
Thank you Laila for remembering…hope TPTB see that tape…that is disgusting and Len should have to recuse himself since he can’t be fair…yes I know I am on a rant. I could have lived with an 8…I wouldn’t have liked it but oh well, but a 7 that is insulting to the pro and to the celeb.
The finals are almost here, it’s getting more exciting. Trios were the hightlights of the night.
1-Melissa: From Ann Miller & Gene Kelly to a bad-ass paso doble trio; mission accomplished. Favorite trio of the night, and it’s a really big compliment because I thought almost all trios were fun.
2-Emmitt: Ok, sometimes he is stiff, sometimes he doesn’t focus on details in his dances but without him tonight’s DWTS would lose 25 percent of the fun factor.
3-Kelly: Surprised me just like her contemporary. Trio jive choreography was a tough one but she did it. Viennese waltz wasn’t any easier than a troupe choreography.
4-Shawn: Viennese waltz was subpar compared to her last week performance. I’m not looking for samba content like Len, but I thought trio samba was ugly in a way.
5-Apolo: There was so much going on in his head, just like last a few weeks. I’m still waiting for something like his cha cha cha and quickstep performance.
6-Gilles: Quickstep could be a little quicker. His salsa didn’t have enough content for me.
7-Kirstie: Trio was fun. Her viennese waltz didn’t disappoint me.
My comments are that I thought Emmitt’s trio dance did not deserve all 10’s. I kind of felt the judges scores tonight were wonkier than usual. Their agenda seems to point to saving Melissa for the finals no matter what. The rest can battle for the other two positions.
Something seems weird in my list. Kirstie is 7th, but I didn’t write any negative comment about her dances. That is, because I don’t want to write technical stuff about Kirstie. No need to repeat it, it’s already visible. I just didn’t want to write it again.
My order:
1. Tony and Melissa
2. Shawn and Derek
3. Karina and Apolo
4. Emmitt and Cheryl
5. Kelly and val
6. Giles and peta
7. Kirstie and maksim
There’s one thing about Shawn’s trio that has me scratching my head, and it wasn’t even the dance. Why on earth were they riding tricycles in the background before their dance when it cut to commercials?
I’m another one who didn’t like Shawn’s samba, but I appreciate what Derek was trying to accomplish. It was just a little too out there for my tastes. I did love her VW though…should have been a perfect 30
I loved Apolo’s tango. When he’s fierce and powerful in a dance he is so hot! He did have that little messup in the jive, but he did the rest great in a jam packed routine.
I loved Melissa also but she should be very scared tonight. This definitely feels like Sbrina all over again.
Everyone else was very meh for me.
I always feel inadequate commenting on the dancing because I don’t have any dance knowledge. So I have to respond as a regular viewer. It’s always a mix of personality and technical capability. All my opinion, of course.
I think Kirstie goes tomorrow. Great attitude but can’t keep up.
Since I don’t know where Melissa and Gilles votes are coming from either, I send Gilles tomorrow because Melissa is a better dancer and is so likable as a person.
Gilles – Besides Gilles Grade A DL persona, I never feel anything when these two dance.
If it’s not Gilles, it could be Kelly or Emmitt. I am worried for Melissa though.
Emmitt, I like him so much as a person but don’t feel much when he’s dancing and the choreography doesn’t appear to be difficult or interesting to watch. But I think he has a good enough fan base to stay another week, more so than Kelly.
Kelly – I think Val is a great choreographer because I think he makes her look way better than she is. I think her one-note personality doesn’t keep her around but we’ll see if her fanbase can.
I think Shawn and Apolo are safe. Would have loved to have seen a longer version of Derek and Shawn’s v waltz.
I did love the look on Gilles’ face when they said he was out of time on his dance. Ha! He knew right then he wasn’t getting the 30 he was so desperately campaigning for.
Hmm…Didn’t know Len was against Shawn winning season 8! I hope that all the viewers who are angry at Len’s remark will power vote! I voted as much as I could while at work, a 12hr night shift 7p-7a~ I texted my husband to remind him to vote with his cellphone(that I pay for) and our landline. Plus I voted with my 4 Verizon lines and texted/called votes with my AT&T line, voted once from my iPad and twice on facebook through twitter and once directly through the Voting App on Facebook!
I’ll go home in the AM and vote on my laptop with two different browsers! It’s quite obvious that Len has a hard on for Derek! He showed it last season with Maria as well.
I think Shawn will be safe! I agree that Melissa will fall the way of Sabrina in that she’s just NOT pulling in the votes! That’s why the judges scored her perfectly this week. Guess we’ll see tomorrow.
I think both dances from Shawn and Derek were great! The VW was so beautiful! It deserved a perfect score! But ofcourse Len didn’t gave that 10 😉
And the Samba was something special! I don’t care about the scores. I want to see great and special dances! I prefer this more than those boring and standard dances. This are the dances we will remember! And ok, maybe it wasn’t enough Samba. At least they deserved an 8. That 7 from Len is just ridiculous. Especially when you compare it to Kirstie (with all respect) who got an 8. But are we shocked about it? Not really, we already know he don’t like Shawn and Derek. But I think they are great! Really entertaining the audience! 🙂
Thought most of last night’s dances were fantastic! I couldn’t tell Apollo from Sasha in the long shots either. Shawn’s trio was very different but very entertaining. And I finally realize where I’ve seen that strange thing Gille does with his mouth, David Hasselhoff! Didn’t the “Hoff” get voted off after one dance?
I actually agree with Len about Shawn and Derek’s samba. It was a great and memorable African tribal dance with very little samba. A seven though is too harsh. I would give it a nine. I do think she’s safe to go to the semi-finals.
My favorite couples of the night were Melissa and Tony who I gave most of my votes to, Apolo and Karina and Kelly and Val. Though I dont buy into Kelly and Val’s showmance, she impressed me the most out of all the stars.
Who I definately want to leave is Gilles. Kirstie is fun to watch but I think she will be eliminated.
Sek, Apolo didn’t do a paso trio, he did a jive trio.
Threw my gazillion votes at Apolo & Karina especially because I loved the tango and I think “olympic” fans are throwing votes at Shawn thinking she’s in jeopardy because of Len’s score. Many are saying they think Shawn looked sad and dejected as soon as Len said that and Bruno started to talk.
Is it because I’m exhausted from voting, but when I re-watched the show I thought, “WTH???” How did Emmitt get a 30 on that salsa trio…that was lame IMHO. Gilles get called out for being off time and a hiccup here and there by 2 judges and gets 9.5s from them?
Also, Emmitt put in 23.5 hours over the course of 5 days and that’s the most by anyone? Guess Gilles gave up on 12 hour days as well as Apolo doing 8….or is something off?
I enjoyed the show a lot, but I have to admit, this is the most rigged season I’ve ever seen. Or it seems that way. That 30, and the comment about how much Emmitt practices – too much propping. The attacking of Shawn and Derek – not right.
Overall, I don’t think it really matters. I think the judges are mostly irrelevant to the outcome except when they make fans mad. (I said mostly irrelevant because of Kirstie’s position this week.)
No matter how irrelevant they are, it sure is irritating to watch them, though.
I loved Tony, Melissa and Henry’s trio, it was gorgeous. Karina, Apolo and Sasha’s jive was excellent as well. And I absolutely loved Shawn’s trio. The choreo was phenomenal… Lots of negative feedback elsewhere though, I hope they will be ok.
Liked Karina’s jive as well. Apolo was amazing and he and Sasha were so nsync. Good teamwork, really nice choreo.
Emmit#s trio, cute but not worth a perfect 10, I thought Gilles’ trio was just a whole lot of self-indulgence – from him (but Peta too)
Yana Blinova (who DancesportInfo.net identifies as being currently ranked 18th in the world and 3rd in the U.S. in competitive Latin dancing) appeared on ABC’s After Party and called Len out for his inaccurate criticism of Shawn/Derek/Mark’s Trio Samba. She not only loved the dance but said that it was full of proper Samba content and conveyed a proper Samba feel.
Len holds himself out as the great technical expert, but his criticisms are often inaccurate – both as to what actually happened on the floor (e.g., his criticism tonight of Apolo’s Tango frame) and as to the content of dances. Mark was once so incensed by Len’s “lack of content” comments that he started ticking off each of the actual elements of the dance – which Len didn’t want to hear.
I believe that it has been years since Len last adjudicated a professional dance competition. Dance continuously evolves and has become much more theatrical (aka less boring) since Len’s heyday. The fact that Len may not like this trend is no reason to crap all over the enormous talent represented on DWTS by Derek – especially in what may well be his swansong season.
Not my favorite night on dwts. Individual dances were too short and I didn’t feel like the Veteran’s Day theme meshed well with the dancing. The emotional Waltzes were something seen over and over again while other styles just looked weird as military tributes. Melissa’s Quickstep was the best for me from this round; that one at least looked somewhat natural in what it was supposed to represent, even if it was also a bit non-inventive, like the Waltzes. It’s probably their joy that saved it.
The trios were more enjoyable. Shawn’s Samba was brilliant but yes, it wasn’t a Samba. I loved it non the less. Imo it deserved 8s and 9s, not a 7 and a 10. But it averages ok.
Melissa was very good. Maybe not a 10 but close.
Emmitt was just okay, I expected more.
Apolo was good but I wasn’t a fan of the concept in which his role was secondary to Karina’s. Kind of polar opposite from Gilles where it was all about him and the girls were just backdrop. Meh.
Kelly wasn’t nearly sharp enough for the Jive and Kirstie I just can’t watch anymore.
Thanks breck, so there a different opinions if their was enough Samba or not.
And this show isn’t about showing perfect dances. We saw it with Sabrina. Nice that she got a perfect score, but still she had to leave the show. So apparently the people at home didn’t liked it. You also have to entertain the audience. They are the ones who have to vote for you. And you can tell a lot about Shawn and Derek, but that’s what they are doing. Showing us great dances and accept that they get a lower score.
The fact that Len don’t like Shawn and Derek makes it easier to give a 7 I think… But Len giving Emmit a 10 for their trio? Yes ofcourse, that was a perfect dance…
Even Melissa wasn’t perfect. Yes she was good and deserved good scores, but two perfect scores? I don’t agree.
Here is the thing, I kind of like facts. Perhaps that is why I like how this site runs the numbers, has information from an inside source and really seems to tell it like it is. So when someone said Len said something ugly about Shawn winning over Gilles…I wanted the proof. The proof is one You Tube. Now I can’t judge whether a dance has certain elements because I am not a dancer, at this point in my life I cant even walk. However, I am going to rely on people who are dance experts…like the woman on the DWTS After Show who said there was lots of Samba and Shirley Ballas who really took Len to task. Is she perhaps biased…well maybe…however in other interviews she has seemed like she is harder on Derek than other people…so I am inclined to believe her. So, I will say whether I liked a dance or not, but for me to suggest whether a dance has “proper” elements in it is stupid. I guess my question is, of all of you who are saying it wasn’t a Samba…how many of you know the elements of a Samba and why would professionals get up and say the elements were there if they weren’t. They have a reputation to protect. I just don’t get it I guess. I called a friend of mine who teaches this type of dance and he looked at it several times and said it was full of Samba content put together in a unique and creative way. His actual words were he wished he could do that type of choreography. I am not trying to offend anyone, but how many of us really know the elements. In terms of Shawn, I thought she looked shocked, hurt and embarrassed. Len is the one who should feel that way because he is the person spewing vitriolic nastiness in my opinion.
While I understand why Len wanted more Samba content, I thought the score was much too harsh. We frequently hear the judges say they have to “judge what is in front of them” and the samba done by Derek, Shawn, and Mark was great.
30 for Emmett? What? On what planet? He has only done one dance this season and it’s called “shake your ass” and the times he couldn’t manage to do that, were epic Fail! Note the Waltz. He should have gone long before Helio.
Apolo has been underrated all season. Why? I have no idea. I love his dancing and think he’s headed for a film career. Just a guess.
Gilles? I like him, but he’s trying too hard. Its working against him.
Kelly, dancing well, but she just does not have that “spark” that makes it a joy to watch for me.
Melissa. Lovely dancer. Why I’m not a big fan I have no idea. But she dances well.
Kirstie? Not working for me this season. Bless her heart she is just not keeping up.
The show is not meant to be watched by people who know all the elements to every dance. While I think it’s lovely that there are people who want to form their opinion on facts I don’t see much use in it because the whole show is so popularity and personality influenced and driven that objectivity (if there is such a thing) is not something of great value.
Why I personally said that Shawn’s dance wasn’t a Samba: not because there were no Samba steps in it or that there weren’t enough but because the theme element to the dance (jungle) was so overpowering. I understand that stomping and thrusting are not Len’s cup of tea even though I enjoyed it. As to his “controversial” remark, I took it more as drama enhancing than mean. And I don’t understand why he wouldn’t be entitled to an opinion after season 8 finished (I haven’t watched the video but if he only said he had been rooting for Gilles to win- what’s the big deal?). He wasn’t a judge anymore at the time.
Wow, I might not like Melissa (imo she´s to stiff in her dances and way to bubbly for me) but I must give credit where credit is due, she was amazing in that paso doble. Loved it and it was my favourite trio.
I could barely make myself watch Gilles dances, he´s just so sleazy and I need him to go home.
I rarely remember Apolo at the end of the night, but I really enjoyed his trio dance.
Emmitt, I don´t know. He doesn´t really do any dancing and that doesn´t sit well with me.
Shawn did great in her V. Waltz, but I didn´t really like the trio.
Kirstie is so much fun and her first dance was great, the trio was horrid though and I think it´s her time to go home.
Kelly is who I root for, but I agree with Len here, the V. Waltz was a bit jerky and to many spins. Loved the trio dance. I thought it was really fun to watch.
If anybody wants to hear Yana’s comments on Shawn’s dance, here’s a shortened video: youtube.com/watch?v=3c20MMXjdbQ&feature=g-all-u
They start talking about the dance around 2:05. She lists some samba moves that I would never be able to identify.
I forgot to say how much I loved that Olympic deal (I forget what it’s called?) Shawn did towards the middle-end of their Trio dance. Phenomenal.
Biggest understatement is Anna R #13 re scoring…LOL. And, on a side note, is it me or is Mark extremely happy and having a great time now that he’s single?
Dang it. The day I said I didn’t think Melissa had been overscored, and last night…I thought she was overscored. Just by a little though. My personal rankings:
1) Melissa and Tony. I was disappointed with their quickstep at first. I didn’t like that they were out of hold in the beginning (though I think it’s allowed, right, for the first 10 seconds of the dance? I think I read it somewhere, but hell I don’t know). I like to watch quicksteps like the one Apolo and Karina did a while back, so that’s why I didn’t like the “fluff” in Melissa’s in the beginning. I also thought I saw a tiny bobble right before they went into hold. So I didn’t think it was a perfect 30 dance, I thought maybe a 29. I did love their trio, but I hated the loud “HA HA HA” in the middle. WTH was that? Anyway, she’s still my favorite, I still thought they were the overall best last night, and I still voted like mad for her. But I am really, really nervous for her tonight for all of the reasons people have stated above.
2) Apolo and Karina. I LOVED their tango. I wasn’t crazy about the trio, and I can’t put my finger on why.
3) Shawn and Derek. I loved the V.Waltz, but I was upset because as soon as I was getting into it, it was over! I hate the shortened dances, but I do understand they were under time constraints. The trio…I really liked watching it. It was fun, entertaining, well danced. At the time though, I was so disappointed that it wasn’t a “proper” samba. The only thing I have to judge the dances on is what I’ve seen on the show before, and what the judges say. So I was thinking along the lines of Len, that it was self-indulgent of Derek. I knew he was going for the audience votes, and I get that, but it felt so disrespectful, because if everybody did that, I feel like the whole structure of the show and having an assigned dance would go to crap. BUT now that I’ve read that Shirley Ballas and the other dance pro (Yana?) are saying that it DID have plenty of actual Samba in it, I’m intrigued and not as annoyed. I just didn’t know when I watched it I guess, because it’s not the sort of Samba I’m used to seeing.
4)Emmitt and Cheryl. Just because I like them better than my bottom three at this point.
5) Val and Kelly. Kelly looked like she was being flung around in both her dances to me. These two have really lost the shine they had at the beginning of the season in my eyes.
6) Kirstie and Maks. I like Kirstie as and an actress, and I think as a person (because of course I don’t actually know her) and I think she really does try her best every week on DWTS. But she’s just not as good as the others to me. And I’m really not a Maks fan, I like him, but my love for the other pros FAR outweighs any good feelings I have for him, so I hope they go.
7) Gilles and Peta. So sick of them. They even made me not want to watch Chelsie last night, and Chelsie is one of my favorite pros.
I really hope it’s Gilles and Kirstie tonight, but I wouldn’t be upset with any combination of one of them and Emmitt or Kelly. I just want Melissa, Apolo, and Shawn to make the finals. I’m not so worried about Apolo or Shawn tonight, but if they don’t call Melissa safe early I’m going to be a nervous wreck throughout the entire show.
Can’t wait for the numbers post.
I’m still trying to figure out why the individual dances were so short…you didn’t get a chance to see them dance for long. Just a very weird show.
I’m not a ball room judge, so I have no idea what elements a dance should have, and probably 99 percent of DWTS watchers don’t. But I liked the trio dance Shawn, Derek, and Mark did. Since two pro dancers choreographed the routine, they know what elements needed to be in the dance, so I say Len is full of cowplop.
I loved Tony and Melissa…they are such a bright spot this season, but I fear for her tonight. Hope I’m wrong.
For some reason,I can’t warm up to Apolo. Yes, he’s a good dancer, but he’s one on the ones I forget about.
I loved the jive with Louis, Val, and Kelly. Of course Louis has always been one of my favorites, so I’m a little prejudiced. I think Kelly actually smiled.
Emmett is certainly likeable, and his trio with Kym and Cheryl was entertaining, but he didn’t do much actual dancing. Didn’t deserve 10’s in my opinion.
Gilles and Peta are another forgettable combo. Chelsie helped a little.
Kirstie, is so much fun, and Maks and Tristan together was a treat , but I fear she might be gone tonight.
1. Did they recycle some costumes from prior seasons last night? Melissa’s outfit for the quickstep looked exactly like the costume that Nicole wore for her quickstep, and Kirstie’s outfit for the Viennese Waltz looked like one of the costumes that Marie Osmond previously wore during her season.
2. During her first season on DWTS, I always had the feeling that Len didn’t like Shawn. She did one of the best paso dobles by a female celeb on the show — it was fast, sharp, forceful and dynamic — and Len had the gall to say something to the effect that the dance lacked passion. I think Len may actually be guilty of lookism when it comes to Shawn. He seems to favor female dancers with tall, slender frames and long legs.
3. I was embarrassed for the female pros who danced with Emmitt and Gilles in the trio dances. Neither of those dances was sexy — the women just came across as bimbos gyrating on the dance floor around a self-indulgent male.
So, according to a Zap2It article, Derek said that Len and the judges gave them a hard time on camera, but backstage they were gushing about how great that Samba was.
Just in case you weren’t already sure that the show is manipulative. 🙂
And Val is a little BITCH to Derek in his OTRC interview – no surprise. The apple doesn’t fall far from the stupid tree. One thing I always love about Derek – he never takes shots at other people. He goes in eyes wide open and knows they could get marked down, but is respectful enough to never back talk them AND he prepares his partner for what may happen. That’s called being a grown up. Too bad some of the other dancers aren’t the same.
I think that Brooke flubbed that comment about Emmitt’s practice time totally. 23.5 hours is NOTHING over the course of 6 or 7 days. NOTHING. Shockingly low, actually. I would not believe something just because Brooke said it.
Still peeved by some of the judges’ scores from last night…but here is my take on the dances and the evening in general.
I really loved Melissa and Tony (both their dances) – the military theme fit the first one, and I think Melissa stepped it up in the paso. Would I call her aggressive? No, but I think she had more attack than normal, and overall pulled it off. I think having Henry in there helped bring some of that out. (Side note – I would be happy to see Henry as a full-fledged pro.) While her dances may not have been technically perfect, I think she deserved her 30’s.
Apolo and Karina were great as well. I loved both their dances – that tango was far too short, and honestly, in the trio, there were moments I couldn’t tell which was Apolo and which was Sasha – and while some might say that Apolo as the star wasn’t highlighted enough, I think he did the far harder thing by having a pro of the same sex as part of his trio. I can’t believe how underscored he’s been. Looking at just tonight’s scores, he was tied with Gilles for 2nd, but then you add in last week’s scores, and he’s second from the bottom. And he shouldn’t be there – he is dancing much better than Emmitt, Kelly, or Gilles, and doing far harder choreography, and he’s not being recognized enough.
Shawn and Derek were amazing. I loved their V. waltz – again, too short. I really didn’t like how short all the ballroom routines were – I wish they had eliminated one person last week; then we would have had time for proper routines. Anyway, the waltz was gorgeous, and I could really feel the emotion. After seeing Shawn and Derek’s waltz, all of the others felt flat – the emotion was missing (or something was missing). Their trio was also really good. It’s not my favorite routine they’ve done (I think it’s partly the music – I like to have a melody), but it was really cool, very creative, and definitely outside the box, and it deserved better than a seven for sure. I could see samba in there, and while I couldn’t name any steps, I think there was enough to call it a samba (vs African jazz or something of that nature).
Emmitt and Cheryl – I’m not sure what to say. His waltz was rather forgettable, and his trio never clicked for me. It was cute, but it felt a little slow for salsa, and I didn’t think Emmitt did that much actual dancing. I don’t think it should have gotten a perfect score – though it was more fun to watch than Gilles’ trio, and I’m happy that Emmitt’s was scored better than Gilles’; I just think Gilles’ trio should have been scored less than it was.
Kelly and Val – Kelly’s waltz was clunky. It was a moment when I agreed with Len – it was too jerky. I thought that while watching the dance, and was thinking how ridiculous or ironic it would be if her fluidity was praised – and it was, by Carrie Ann. It just felt like there were brief pauses between moves, instead of them all being linked together the way Shawn’s were. The trio was fine – I felt like a lot of the dancing came from the guys vs Kelly, but it was good – but nowhere as good as Apolo’s.
Kirstie and Maks’ waltz was nice; she did a good job. I’m not sure where the military bit came in, other than in the costumes (actually, I don’t know where it came in for Kelly and Val’s either – and they didn’t even have military costumes), but it was nice. The trio was a mess, and I don’t think the costume department did her any favors with what she was wearing. Given that there’s a 20 point spread out of a hundred between Kirstie and Melissa, and more than 10 between Kristie and everyone else, I think she may be going home. I know what really counts are percentages, so I’m waiting to see the numbers post to get a real handle on things, but if Kirstie beats that gap, she has a much bigger fan base than I thought.
Gilles and Peta – oh so annoying! Talk about self-indulgent – *his* trio was self-indulgent. It seemed to scream “Look at me! Look at me! Aren’t I wonderful?” the whole time. And he didn’t dance much either. His quickstep wasn’t horrible, but I thought it had too many rave reviews from the judges – and I can’t believe Len gave him a ten – two tens! – out of all the dances that night. Arrggh!
I’m not sure if I’m more irritated with Len for overscoring Gilles, or underscoring Shawn – but it’s just ridiculous. The thing is, if I look back over all the seasons I’ve watched, and I had to pick the judge I’ve most often agreed with, I think up until now it would have been Len; he seemed saner and less swayed by over-the-top stuff than Bruno and Carrie Ann (though he was swooning over William Levy, wasn’t he?) – anyway, I’m just really disappointed with the scoring this season, and last night in particular. And the comment about not blaming Len if she goes home was just uncalled for.
Overall, a fun show with some good dancing. I’m trying not to think of
how annoying the scoring is…with little success. But I’m trying! 🙂
Really looking forward to seeing the Numbers post, so I can see how worried I should be about my favorites (and yes, I voted for them!)
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I think you may be right about Len and lookism. It is at least part of it. The only thing that should perhaps be considered is: short, muscular build really doesn’t lend itself to the “effortless” look that so many people like to see in dancing. I see this in Shawn and, to a lesser extent, in Apolo. They both tend to look like they’re working hard while dancing. That’s why I loved this Samba style for Shawn- she could freely be the powerhouse mover that she is, it suited the concept perfectly.
Is it lookism when people criticize Melissa for being too light and pretty? Or Kirstie for being too slow?
There is no escaping that certain body types produce different looking styles and probably lessen the versatility of the dancer. It’s just the way it is. I’m not saying this to defend Len though, I think he has been overly critical of Shawn and indeed could be a lookist for all I know. Just putting my thoughts out there.
I think I’ll go with the woman who’s ranked 18th in the world in Latin dancing for a determination of Samba content for Shawn and Derek. And Shirley Ballas, who would be more inclined to judge Derek and Mark harsher than others.
I thought shawn shaking hands with the judges was a class act. I still think Len’s comment was disgraceful. That was a great samba, very earthy. Alot of the samba’s roots are in west africa. It and the music were awesome. I saw on some of the other boards that people were giving some of their team votes to Shawn because of that comment and people were voting who don’t normally vote. Hopefully she won’t get elminated. I’m still voting for them. Glad to see CA go head to head with Len.
I thought that Shawn and Derek’s dance was borderline offensive, tbh. They’re still a shoo-in for the finals, though.
Overall… last night wasn’t bad in some respects.
Shawn & Derek
Viennese Waltz: Very pretty, very clean, very fluid. Derek has managed to bring out this incredibly emotional side to Shawn that Mark, no matter how hard he tried, just could never do. But I think the problem of Len’s “not enough hold” comment was that the dance was wayyy too short! The dance started, then it ended.
Samba: No, not a lot of samba, but Carrie Ann (Or was it Bruno?) is right, the samba that WAS done was done very very well, and executed very cleanly. Yeah, there was a lot of tribal stuff going on, but they went for the entertainment factor, and I think it payed off because this dance was wildly entertaining.
Apolo & Karina
Tango: I just think this song works for a Tango so well. And the dance was really good to boot! I felt it was a bit frantic in places, but I still think it was strong, sharp and had just the right amount of attack. I’m glad Apolo got the scores he so deserved!
Jive: There was a glaring misstep right at the beginning, so I’m surprised Bruno decided to overlook it. I think what Karina did embodied what a trio should be. This was a vast improvement on his first jive. Plus, it’s impossible to hate any song from Grease. I am a little worried about him, being second from the bottom. However, there’s a 12.5 point difference between he and Kirstie… So it’ll be interesting to see how things play out.
Kirstie & Maks
Viennese Waltz: Was it Kirstie’s best dance? I thought so or at least it’s tied with her rumba from a few weeks ago. However, I don’t remember this dance at all. Maybe it was because the dance was super short, or maybe because it just didn’t have enough impact on me, or (more likely) both.
Paso Doble: I wasn’t feeling this Paso. The story she created was interesting, I thought, being angels and what not, but the dance was… meh. I don’t really have much else to say… She could be in some serious danger tomorrow. She’s the only star remaining that’s been in the Bottom Two…so… We’ll see.
Kelly & Val
Viennese Waltz: I thought it was good, but I did see the “thrashy” stuff Court’s talking about. I twas a little forced, but I do think it was one of Kelly’s better dances. Also, I do like Kelly, but WHAT THE HELL CARRIE ANN?! There was one of the most obvious lifts of the entire show AND YOU DON’T CALL IT OUT?! Oh yeah, you’re so consistent.
Jive: I thought it was actually very, very good. Not as clean as it could have been, and I think I saw her thinking “Okay, I do this, then I do this” which is never a good thing. But the dance was fun, I thought, and the latter half of the dance Kelly really got into it and started pumping her legs for real. Do I think she’s safe? I have no idea.
Gilles & Peta
Quickstep: Okay, I have to share this. I like to play dumb sometimes when I watch with my mom, and I know she knows Top Gun (or maybe not) so I asked her if the song was normally this fast. She then proceeds to ask me “What dance is this first? The Argentine Tango?” I chuckled a little and told her Quickstep, but I was rolling on the inside, it was too funny! Anyway, I do think Gilles hit everything way too hard. It wasn’t a bad Quickstep, just a really forced Quickstep that was way over-scored.
Salsa: I’m sorry, I thought this was a Trio? Not a “Look-At-What-I-Can-Do!” Whatever. I so want this doucher gone. I have to admit, I did originally think he was going to get a 30 on this, so I was dreading listening to the judges. However, I’m glad they are still willing to nit-pick at him. And it’s CAI and Bruno at that! Len’s the one over scoring him this time!! When does that happen?!
Emmitt & Cheryl
Viennese Waltz: Um… drawing a blank on this one…
Salsa: Definitely tons more fun than Gilles because IT WASN’T ALL ABOUT EMMITT! It was about THE TRIO! I loved seeing Kym back. She’s too good to have been eliminated right away. Anyway, yes, a lot of standing around and shaking of butts, but this dance was still a lot of fun, and I’m so glad Cheryl decided to not go the William Levy route and left the sexy/raunchy moves out.
Melissa & Tony
Quickstep: Okay, another dance I’m blanking on, but I think it was because of how short it was. I do remember bits and pieces, of it, so I guess I’m not 100% blanking… What I do remember is that it was a cute Quickstep, and really, Melissa had a song that actually related to the theme of the ballroom round. I hardly ever say this about my favorites, but it was over scored by at MOST a point, if not half a point.
Paso Doble: Now this one, I remember, and I do think was worthy of the 30 it got. Melissa was in control of that dance, and I still don’t think “Rumor Has It” is a great paso, but they made it work. I liked how Melissa danced with Tony for about 5-10 seconds, then she switched over to Henry for 5-10 seconds, and then they danced as a Trio (you listening Gilles?). The yelling… I wasn’t too sure about… lol I don’t really have an explanation for it… As for being safe, I pray to God she is, because it would be so wrong for her to be eliminated tomorrow night.
#65 I’m curious how you thought that dance was borderline offensive?
Len’s parting shot might have been unnecessary, but I don’t think he underscored Shawn’s trio dance. There *wasn’t* a lot of samba, and I’ve always believed that if you don’t do the dance assigned, that should automatically merit a failing grade – which would technically be a 5 or below, but in DWTS world, this far into the competition, a 7 suffices. No, it’s not Shawn’s fault since she’s not in charge of the choreography, but she and Derek are a team. What he does affects her.
That doesn’t mean that Derek was stupid for choreographing what he did. He made a calculated risk and figured that the lower judges’ scores would be worth it, I’m assuming. And he’ll probably end up being right; I doubt that he and Shawn are in any danger of going home.
It was offensive if you’re a 70 year old living in a religious commune, sure.
Sasa said what I was thinking about the tribal samba. I don’t know samba steps other than what I’ve seen on the show, so if experts say they were there, then I’m sure they were. But I personally feel like there’s a flavor or character for a dance style as well as the specific steps. Rumbas aren’t angry, tangos aren’t cheeky, etc. The tribal samba was fun and well executed, but there was no hot Rio party dance feel to it even if the steps were there. JMO of course.
I think if what Shawn did for her Samba was done for her freestyle.. OMG! It would’ve been awesome and deserving of a perfect score! But because the Samba is my most favorite Latin dance (and knowing how good of a dancer she is), I was super let down. I think I’m gonna go watch my favorite Sambas now just to make up for it.
Kelly/Val are the ones I continue to support. I’ve loved them from the beginning, but I’ll admit that I think their shine is starting to dull. I do think she enjoys dancing and is a good person, but sometimes I wish she just smiled more when she performs. I thought her VWaltz, while a little harsh, was better than her jive – which was not as flicky for me.
Apolo just continues to be HOTTTT! And I loved his trio dance cuz I could not tell him apart from the other male pro! If Kelly/Val get eliminated today, he will be the person I’ll support to the end.
I think just as long as a combo of Kelly/Val, Apolo/Karina, Shawn/Derek, Melissa/Tony make it to the finals, I’ll be happy.
Hanna/meeeee/me/blah – whatever your name is today – pick a name and stick with it. Otherwise, you end up looking like a troll who wants to storm away mad under one username (meeee) and come back and support your own opinion with another username…in this case hanna. Keep it up and you’ll be blocked. You don’t want me to be rude to you? Don’t treat the rest of us like idiots.
Somehow I cannot believe that Derek would really put very little Samba steps in their trio, especially since he was doing it with Mark. Wouldn’t Mark point it out? I bet there was plenty of content, just presented differently.
Who do we think did the best samba of the previous DWTS seasons? With all this discussion of Samba content, I’m trying to remember a good one. I know Derek got whacked on his Bollywood one last season – but goodness, look at the song they gave him. The past few seasons, Samba always seems to be a male star standing around while their pro shimmies around them in a short skirt (oh, wait, that was all of Cheryl and William’s dances…).
But seriously, I’d love to go youtube a few of them just to reset my thought on the dance after all this discussion. Samba and rumba are the two dances for me that I never seem to get what makes a good one….
I really wish the costume department could spare an extra 1/2 of fabric to cover Peta’s who-ha. Seriously…every costume she wears that bares her belly is sooo extremely low (I’m convinced by her choice, btw). Chelsie by far looked better and more appropriate IMO.
Sueb, it is tough to find one but I thought Mya’s seventies samba, I liked Stacey’s samba but that seems so easy compared to what we see now.
I feel unlike sytycd, where I felt all their best dances were maybe up to season 5, some great dances have also come later on dwts. Also we know Derek can do traditional with creativity ( pasos, psycho tango, the jive he did ith Shawn), but I was okay with the trio dance. Also because trio is not traditional ballroom, they do not compete in trio. It is like asking for a burn the floor type of more theatrical performance.
Eh, Len needs to up his prune juice intake.
I’m concerned about Melissa. I’m not worried about Shawn although I already knew Len would say it wasn’t enough Samba. Look back. Derek pretty much always gets Samba for a Trio and Len said the same thing last year to Derek and MM for their trio right before he gave them a 7. Are you sure Len doesn’t have a beef with Derek? Because if I were Derek the way Len has been scoring, I would start taking it very personally. You know maybe meet him out in the parking lot with my dance posse.
Back to Melissa, they kind of did the same thing scoring Sabrina/Shawn before Sabrina got the boot. You, everyone kind of pulled for Shawn and then WTF what happened to Sabrina. Both Melissa’s dances were great but just like Sabrina she had a few hiccups that were over looked. It may be my tinfoil hat brain talking but I can’t help but compare how coincidental it is. Hopefully it is just that. A coincidence.
I liked Tom’s commentary last night. It would be a very boring show without his comic relief. Delusional With The Stars was my fav. Tom is way too priceless and the show would be over if he left.
Kirstie, Kirstie, Kirstie. Great woman, great personality. I hoped she would go far but walking through your routine will not do that for you. That was painful to watch for her.
Emmitt needs to bring it. Apolo brought it. Now Emmitt needs to. As nice and wholesome as Emmitt is he just needs to up the game now.
Kelly. What can I say about Kelly. Girlfriend needs to grow a pair of tatas or either use the ones she has now and stop being so friggin down on herself. If she would stop acting all I can’t do it and being mean girl when it comes to others and just LET IT GO and have fun she might actually be good. Because you know thats why people do mean things. Because they have low self esteem and want to bring others down with them.
As for Gilles.
Well.
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@hanna, even the ballroom experts said it was a samba. Just because it does not look it. But samba itself is not just a Rio party dance. They did the assigned dance.
what did Val do to Derek with OTR carpet interview? did i miss that? I am so over corny samba numbers of hot pink, yellow, orange (cheryl is a prime offender) dancing to corny cruise music….now sure how people can’t be inspired to see new, innovative way to interpret a song. I mean watching Cheryl, Kim, Peta, Chelsea dance around their pro is beyond tiresome for me. People think its offensive? my god…get a clue. And someone said find a good samba- please do bc the only one that remotely comes to mind is Derek’s with nicole’s which he got slammed for too. This isn’t a ballroom competition!!! its a reality show that has ballroom dancing in it…maybe if DWTS more dances like the tribal one last night some of the younger and highly coveted 18-45 year olds would watch it again…bc foxtrotting around to over played music is just straight boring anymore. ok done my rant:)
Sueb, just off the top of my head, my favorite Sambas have been: Melissa/Tony (from her original season), Apolo/Julianne, Mya/Dmitry. I believe all those scored a perfect 30.
And to see the essence of what a Samba is (aka “the party dance”), I love watching Rob/Cheryl & William/Cheryl. But I have been YouTube’ing a lot of them right now, and a lot of them have been so fun to watch!
@Joey, they have the video posted on the home page under the starts interviews for last night. Basically he said he (Val) couldn’t afford to do over the top stunts to please the fans that he still had to please the judges because he (Val) doesn’t have a big a fanbase as Derek. Then he said something like Derek does have three mirror balls.
Did he sound like a whiney little bitch? Ehhh kind of. Does he sound frustrated? Yes.
Boy needs to learn how to articulate his feelings in interviews better.
Len was kind of right about their Samba…it isn’t fair to be given 10s when you are supposed to dance a SAMBA…they didn’t even have any Samba rolls, it was just tribal…that being said, they are playing smart because the scores really don’t matter, they probably got votes for it.
I think Val was being factual about Derek in his interview OTRC. He said he didn’t have the fan base of Derek and therefore would not be as comfortable choreographing dances without considering the judges scores. I don’t think that is a slam – he knows he’s in a different place – a newer pro with a smaller fan base.
I think to say samba is just a party dance is off. The roots of the dance are also from the Africans slaves.
Val, might have meant it is a compliment but I also know how competitive and even jealous some might be.
Melissa’s personality may give her a leg up on Sabrina. She is propped IMO but I think her personality is easier to take than Sabrina. But wonder if it is enough, with the middle all roughly tied, with a double elimination, should be an interesting night revealing fan bases, who knows.
I also think comments from Len like Melissa impressed him the most and Bruno saying she deserves to be in the finals, adds more to her being propped argument. I want her in the finals for drama free but most impressed? I say that is Shawn who for me, this season, quieted arguments that she did not deserve to win. I never would have thought season 8 Shawn could do such a moving waltz or that tribal samba.
Val can come off as a bit too honest sometimes and people take it the wrong way.
Cher! It’s so good to see you! You always make me laugh. 😀
There’s a lot of discussion on Shawn’s samba trio. I have to say I enjoyed and I’m going to go with the opinions of the other professional dancers who said it did have a lot of samba content in it.
I apologize if I’m going to say what has already been said but I was so mad last night with Len’s commeats to Shawn tha I took the night away from the computer. I haven’t read back but will d so after this comment.
Len was so unprofessional and should apologize to Shawn.
Derek is so innovative with his choreo and loved when he said thisyear s dedicated to the fans. Love that about him.
Loved the VW and the samba – words escape me.
Go TeamShawnough.
CBG, samba rolls do not make a dance a samba. And honestly, I rather dislike when the contestants do samba rolls on the show because most of them can’t do them well and they just end up looking awkward.
As for “just tribal,” world ranked ballroom dancers have already said that the dance had plenty of samba content. There were tribal elements, certainly, but it wasn’t “just tribal.”
And sorry to the mods for the different IP address. I’m the same Sara that’s been posting; I’m just using a different computer.
I was wondering why this discussion around Derek and Shawn’s samba was sounding so familiar – and then I realized that it reminds me of the movie “Strictly Ballroom” (which, if you haven’t seen it, is an awesome movie) – dancing a crowd-pleasing routine vs. dancing by the book (rules, whatever). And in real life, as in the movie, the people (Len, some of the other couples/pros) who are being fanatic about following the rules aren’t coming across so well.
Meant to add this to my previous post, but I like that there was a rawness to Shawn’s samba trio, versus a cookie-cutter, neon-colored samba. But to each his own. 🙂
I felt the show was a bit rushed, trying to squeeze all those dances into two hours. I think we could have seen more content with more time, but oh well.
ok…watched them now. The C brothers just don’t know how to articulate well…they sound cocky even if they aren’t trying to be. I think most of the couples get annoyed because no matter where they go Shawn and Derek’s name gets brought up (ie Chelsea’s interview with Good Morning America which she tweeted her annoyance)- which partly is from the pushing the boundaries, creative dancing, etc. I actually found Tony’s to be more annoying…he said he actually doesn’t know how to break the rules (yes he has upped his choreo but is still no where near some of the other pros and seems dated to me at times) but his comment of “you have no one to blame but yourself” is the what stung me and is all i remember from it. Not sure how after all these seasons that the pros don’t know how to give a diplomatic answers, still be real yet not take shots at other pros?
Yep, Yana Blinova is actually the defending two-time Blackpool Rising Star Professional Latin champion…so I will listen to her. I personally don’t love her and her partner’s style, but they are very different and fun to watch on a dance floor. And she was right, and this is something Mark and Derek understand better than anyone – ballroom dance is evolving. (Mark once told his students “Don’t be afraid to get ugly – UGLY IS HOT.”) And while I love ballroom samba, seeing the same thing week after week with the same kinds of costumes is getting very stale, so seeing this new take on samba was very refreshing to me, which is why I appreciated it.
Maybe they should chuck the list of required steps and we can see more of a range? Even though competitors tend to use the same steps too…but it’d be nice to see a samba without promenade runs up the wazoo.
And for the mod who asked what the Olympic flippy thing was near the end of Shawn’s routine, I think it’s called an aerial 🙂
Sara, I have two IP addresses as well. It’s when you use different user names and emails in a very blatant attempt to try to look like two different people that you get in trouble. We only look closer when someone sounds…funky. Or if they seem brand new and slightly trollish.
I hope someone can correct me about the quickstep, but aren’t they supposed to have BODY CONTACT throughout the dance, not just stay in hold? And, didn’t both G/P and M/T NOT have much body contact? Not to push this “Len is biased against Derek” thing (I think he is), wasn’t D and partners in the past penalized by Len for having lack of body contact, when they were closer than both of last night’s high scoring quicksteps? And, wasn’t D and partners penalized for not getting into hold quick enough, when they took less time than last night’s quicksteps? (and I do love M/T, and their dances last night, and want them in the finals!)
I liked all the dances last night but I am going to take each round individually.
Individual dances:
1)Shawn and Mark
2)Melissa and Tony
3)Apollo and Karina
4)Kelly and Val
5)Gilles and Peta
6)Emmit and Cheryl
7)Kirstie and Maks
Round Two (the round that surprised me the most)
1)Emmitt and Cheryl
2)Mellissa and Tony
3)Apollo and Karina
4)Shawn and Derrek
5)Kelly and Val
6)Kirsite and Maks
7)Gilles and Peta
Saying that, the two going home are going to be Kirstie and Emmit in my opinion.
Joey, you want to talk annoyed. Poor Tony was at CAI’s animal benefit and he was getting asked about Kelly and Val and anything that might be happening backstage.
People are worried about the wrong thing.
I just want to put my personal opinion of Shawn, Derek and Marks Samba in here. I have watched the video at least 6 times as well as the live performance. They did do some Samba steps in it so it’s not like they totally threw the dance away. It was minimal samba but still there. But what stood out the most for me when I watch this dance is that instead of it being a dance led by two professionals with a non pro celebrity, who they are leading, it seemed like a 3 pro dance. She was equal to their abilities in every step of that dance. When watching it you could easily forget you were watching DWTS and imagine you were watching a dance in a professional competition. She has come so far this season under Dereks experience and care that it’s amazing to watch how she has transformed.
Joey #79 – you asked what Val did in his OTRC interview. Now, I love the Chmerkovskiy bros (OFF the tv screen, because the behavior I’m seeing this season from them is so disappointing), but I can’t defend this in any way other than to say I hope he didn’t mean this maliciously. The interviewer brought up Shawn’s trio and they said something about choreo’ing proper dances. Val listed what he thinks about when he choreographs, and the last thing he said was “I think about the judges because it’s important, because I don’t have a fanbase like Derek’s, he can afford to not care about the judges and not care about a 7 because he’s been there, done that, and has three trophies”.
And he tweeted how proud he was of Melissa and Tony last night for getting the first “earned” 10s of the season (which I took to mean “deserved”). Val’s better than that, I know he is. So disappointed in him.
IMO one of the best sambas is JR and Karina’s from season 13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7zDrDBXP0U
As for Derek and samba: I think it’s one of his lowest scoring dances over his 10 seasons. Mostly because of Len either thinking it doesn’t have enough content or that it’s too sexy. If I remember correctly (please correct my PH if I’m wrong) he only got a perfect score for a samba once (with Ricki)
Cher: That’s the perfect description of Gilles. I hope he’s gone tomorrow night… but he probably won’t be eliminated… Much to my chagrin.
I have to say, as someone who knows the Rio carnaval all too well, I get offended when people don those neon outfits on DWTS, call whatever they’re doing a samba and have the judges praise them saying that they “felt transported to carnival in Brazil”. I do understand that ballroom samba is different, but if they’re judging ballroom samba and are going to be a stickler to the rules, they shouldn’t besmirch the name of Brazilian carnaval by mentioning it in the critique.
Also, anyone who has seen an actual carnaval parade could argue that Shawn and Derek’s dance could have easily fit into the first wing of each samba school’s presentation. The first wing is made of fewer dancers and is heavily choreographed, and it’s not uncommon for tribal motifs to be invoked, if it fits in the overall mood of the school’s presentation.
I frankly don’t understand ballroom samba to say if last night was a ballroom samba or not, but at its roots, is WAS indeed a samba.
#99 Gitte – yes, that is true…and the crazy thing about that is, when I saw that samba, I couldn’t believe it – the choreo was CRAP, especially coming from Derek. My friend (who likes and respects him, but isn’t fanatical in Derek Devotion like me LOL) agreed, and said the choreo in that samba wasn’t like him at all. And the big “carnaval” music with the obnoxious outfits and lighting made the dance just…UGHH gross.
Gitti – ricki was his only perfect 30 samba, probably one of my least favorite dances of him and Ricki
Patricia- I’m from Rio, and I agree with you. I’ve never seen actual carnaval samba in the show, thoses neon outfits are so not samba.
The overall felling of Shawn’s samba was the closest thing I’ve seen from the carnaval parade (I watch every year), her costume was probably the most authentic I’ve seen on the show and the music was just what carnaval samba is all about. I’ve seen tons of african and tribol influences in the original carnaval samba.
They may not have dance a proper ballroom samba, but it was a samba, just a different kind.
#89 Anon – “No new steps!” ROFL!
Lori, the short answer is yes. 🙂
I don’t think Derek actually LIKES the Samba the way it is typically done on the show. And if that music and that sort of Samba (which was brilliant) is what it takes to get good creative samba choreography from him, then I’m all for it. 🙂
I think when he’s going, the show just might get a bit boring. Or a lot boring. I have hopes they will bring in Henry – he came up with the Bollywood idea, after all. And without Derek, we’re going to need FRESH in a huge way.
Let me preface for the newcomers – I am by no means a Derek fan, but DAMN, that boy can choreograph and dance a crowd-pleasing routine. (And didn’t all three of them look like they were having the time of their lives?) Shawn’s trio samba would not have been out of place in SYTYCD and in my opinion, would probably have won the night. It didn’t look a lot like a samba to my uneducated (as are most of the regular viewers, I’d assume) eye, except for a few spots, so you know… maybe not perfect score worthy, but it sure didn’t deserve a 7 from the old fart. And he was behaving like a cranky old fart last night. Shawn was phenomenal! This dance showed off all her talents and skills to the nth degree.
My friend, with whom I watch DWTS every week – we chat on AIM as she’s in a different part of the country – said that possibly Len is pissed at Derek because he’s leaving. *LOL* I mean seriously, as much as I’m not a fan of the boy, Len’s … um… critique was SO less than logical.
Scripting… it’s all in the script, I guess.
But it doesn’t mind what scores the judges give the couples because it’s all about the people at home. We saw that with Sabrina. A perfect score but she still had to leave the show. So you just have to vote a lot for your favorite!
Eames, I think perhaps we ar entering the no holds bar phase of the competention.
Remember they have said that although they are friends by the end of season by the time the end comes they are pretty much ready to sabatoge each other.
Sometimes you need to speak up, sometimes you just need to keep your mouth shut. It is knowing when to do which that makes you a professional or a Lord Douche.
Val hasn’t entered douchedom yet…pushes it sometimes but not yet…Maks will get there way before he does…..Gilles on the other hand. He bought that ocean front property in Arizona.
I got a bad feeling about tonight. Something really stupid is going to happen.
I agree with Vin, I’m thinking Kirstie&Emmitt are on their way out.
For the most part, I enjoyed the actual dancing last night and I’m focusing on that so I stay positive. Was NOT thrilled that the coupleshad to do the “executive summary” version of their ballroom routines. I was dying for more of Shawn and Derek’s VWaltz. That was my favorite dance of the night.
I’m not commenting on the scores or leaderboard because the judges’ agenda is so patently obvious that to say anything just gives them legitimacy they don’t deserve.
The real competition last night was between Gilles and Len. Len was making a serious bid for Gilles’ “Douche Lord” title with his comments and scores, and I’m almost inclined to give it to him.
I liked all the trio dances except Gilles’ and Kelly’s. Can the costume department please use fishing line and sew Val into his costume from now on? I wonder if Val was one of those little kids who was always trying to take his clothes off?
Tonight’s going to be a nail-biter. I’m trying to decide which I should have closer to me, the Glenlivet or Pepto. 😉
I understand that the numbers don’t mean much right now, but still. Len is giving out 10’s to almost everybody and then gives a 7 to Derek. I’ve never been on the Derek bandwagon, but he is a fantastic choreographer and even if there wasn’t much samba, I don’t think he deserved that score from Len. Gilles is shaking his hips, smacking bottoms and has a face that looks like he’s a fish out of water gasping for air. The ballroom dances were way too short. Shawn and Derek’s was beautiful and just as I was starting to enjoy it, it ended. Their trio was fantastic. My reaction at the end was wow! Good for Derek taking the chance and doing something like that. More of the pros need to start doing that. I’m so tired of Kelly and Val finding some reason to kiss during or at the end of their dances. And the way Val was kissing Kelly in the celebraquarium was unnecessary. Emmitt and Cheryl are forgettable to me. I don’t think he’s a good dancer. I loved Melissa and Tony. That dance made me smile. And their trio was great. Theirs was my favorite followed by Shawn’s. And then there’s Gilles. I don’t understand why he’s always playing the sexy card. He’s not. His trio dance was him shaking his hips more than dancing with Peta and Chelsie. They were too busy whipping their hair. Kirstie’s waltz was good, but that trio was a disaster. She will be leaving tonight, although I don’t think she will be the first mentioned. I think she will have to wait until the end of the show for the drama. I’m thinking Emmitt or Kelly but hoping that’s it’s Gilles. I can’t watch him anymore.
If Kirstie somehow survives this elimination, I will eat my hat! But honestly, my dream elimination would be Kirstie and Gilles, I am worried for Sabrina (oops, I mean Melissa)…. But if I had to choose the 2 evictees. My guess would be Kirstie and Kelly, knock out both C-bros at once, then their cra-cra fans can’t power vote for the other celeb next week.
Apolo was awesome. I loved Derek and Shawn’s trio, not much Samba, that’s true, Lens 7 was not nice…
But I may have to get my television fixed, because I can’t understand anything Shawn says, Is it my television or does she kind of mumble: 🙂
#102 and #105 Patricia and Laila, it’s good to hear your perspective on the samba. I found it fascinating that Shawn and Derek’s trio was the closest the show has *ever* gotten to authentic Brazilian (vs ballroom) samba. So thanks for sharing! I’ve never been to Brazil or carnaval, but I did play capoeira for a little while, and was very briefly exposed to Brazilian samba, and what I remember was that it (steps and everything) was very different from the little bit of ballroom samba that I had danced. I was expecting it to be at least a little familiar, and it wasn’t at all!
You know, in one way I’m glad Derek is leaving, so he doesn’t have to put up with these petty jealousies from other “pros” anymore. He just doesn’t deserve it!
Thank you Court for the power rankings! Spot on as usual!
I wonder who will get the encore tonight, probably Melissa, or maybe Emmitt.
I agree with most of Courtney’s points in her power rankings. I really hope Gilles is the second one to go home (I would be happy with Kelly too at this point, really can’t stand watching the showmance anymore), but for some reason I worry about Melissa. As long as it’s not Apolo, though (there’s zero chance of it being Shawn) I can live with it.
I liked Shawn’s samba. I didn’t have a problem with it being marked down slightly for being more of a samba-based freestyle than a pure samba, but Len’s giving them a 7 and his obnoxious comments were not called for.
I enjoyed both of Apolo’s dances, even the zipline which when I first heard about it sounded like a bad idea to me. I don’t get the critique from some that Karina choreographed a dance about her not Apolo. Just because she was the only female doesn’t mean she was the focus of the dance. If anything, it seemed to me she under choreographed herself so the focus would be on the two men. The focus was on how good of a dancer Apolo was that he could match a male pro move for move. They had a lot of side by side and mirror image moves, and my eyes were drawn to them, not Karina.
I though the trios for the other male celebs were incredibly self-indulgent, a lot of ass shaking while the female pros gyrated around them. They were overscored, as usual.
I usually tend to stay clear of controversy, but Gilles’ comment about how France was liberated by the Americans in WWII just rubbed me the wrong way. I understand why he said it, but any French worth their salt knows that France’s liberation was more of a team effort: by the French free forces led by General de Gaulle, by the French resistance (who knew the lay of the land and effectively cut German communication lines), by the Spanish republicans’ “Nueve” division, by the British army, and, yes, ultimately, by the American forces who provided crucial support in infrastuctures, personnel and supplies. Even the Russians did their part by attacking on the Eastern front and weakening Hitler’s forces. Being part French myself, I felt insulted that he so quickly forgot the other parties to this team effort (and indeed his own country’s participation) in favour of a simple soundbyte, when he could have been more gracious about the matter.
Needless to say, I didn’t vote for him, and I hope we won’t see him next week.
Okay,
I know this is going to sound off the wall to most, maybe. But as much as I feel Emmitt hasn’t stood out or blown anyone away with any of his dances compared to others, I think he may make it into the top three because of his fanbase. Not just the football fanbase but the Texas one.
I’m only saying this because I grew up there. Texans love to win and are very territorial and that means supporting other Texans. Emmitt has yet to be in the bottom this season and I looked up what place Ty Murray came in during his season and he came in 4th! 4th and he was as stiff as a board, IMO, and there is a very small demo of PBR (Professional Bull Riding) fans that could get him to 4th on that alone. I know unless you lived there it sounds ridiculous and I may eat these thoughts after tonight’s results but I’m starting to wonder. Where does that leave Melissa, not as popular as a Dallas Cowboys football legend but she’s still in it. The Texas voters may not get them the mirrorball trophy but I think it gets them farther than if they didn’t have it.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the final three may be:
Shawn/Derek
Melissa/Tony
Emmitt/Cheryl
or if Apolo makes it to the final three, which I hope he does:
Shawn/Derek
Apolo/Karina
Emmitt/Cheryl or Melissa/Tony
@Ashley L – We actually don’t know for sure that Emmitt hasn’t been in the bottom 2 yet this season. The week Sabrina went home, we didn’t have a real bottom 2, and the identity of the other person in the bottom 2 with her was never revealed. Not saying that it was Emmitt, but we can’t rule it out.
Derek did what he aimed to do – make a memorable, well-executed dance. Love it or hate it, everyone is talking about it today. I think it had Samba – just not traditional, ballroom Samba. But it was choreographed to the music, so it all worked. I can also do without another neon Samba for the rest of my life – that’s one of the reasons I also really loved Apolo and Karina’s (and of course, Apolo and Julianne’s as well).
I also couldn’t tell the difference between Apolo and Sasha in the long-shots – they were sooooo in-sync. Loved how it showcased his abilities.
I almost fell off my chair when Emmitt got a perfect 30. Wow. I mean, it was fun and everything but I guess when you give that crapfest of Gilles nearly a perfect score you gotta give Emmitt a little more.
I actually liked a few parts of Gilles’s quickstep a lot – but most of it seemed too harsh. I still think either Peta is just not a good choreographer or she just doesn’t care.
I could have done without Melissa’s yelling in the paso but otherwise it was much better than I expected. I think Henry probably had a great deal to do with its success, if I had to guess. I also don’t think Melissa is the same as Sabrina. I think there are WAY more people that like Melissa than Sabrina – she just has a more engaging personality. I think it’s not always about the built-in fanbase, but rather all those people that you pick up along the way and I bet Melissa has picked up way more people than Sabrina ever did. I always hear about people voting for Melissa, and all I ever heard about Sabrina was that she is a good dancer but just didn’t gain their favor over anyone else, which I think Melissa HAS been able to do. It remains to be seen if its enough to win over enough people, but I’m rather certain that she is making it a bigger fight with the powerhouse fanbases than most people give her credit for – kind of like a Kyle. He was a virtual unknown but charmed people with his personality and entertained, and while I think Melissa isn’t nearly THAT engaging, she is very likable and a good dancer.
@ Courtney
Ah yes, I keep forgetting about that actual bottom two that is never revealed.
I still have a feeling the combo of Cowboys/Texas voters will carry Emmitt way further than I think he should actually go in this all-star season.
And the farthest Chelsie has ever gotten on DWTS was Ty Murray’s season when she got to week 10. I know this may not mean anything but I definitely think that Texans voting for Emmitt surpass Kelly and Gilles’ fanbases easily.
I agree Figamentation, but I don’t think her fanbase will be enough to get her to the finale. But I can hope because I want a Shawn/Apolo/Melissa finale.
I think the finale will actually be Shawn/Apolo/Emmitt because of fanbase.
I hope it is Kirstie & Gilles who leave tonight. But I think it will be Kirstie & Kelly…..or Melissa…..
In Gilles defense, he probably thought Veteran’s Day is to honor American armed forces veterans. I’m sure he meant no disrespect to the other countries. A lot of Americans didn’t leave France after WWII. They’re buried there. I’m not a fan of Gilles, but I understand what he was saying.
People think it was the Texans that got Ty into the semifinal? Really? I’m sure that had a small bit to do with it, but I think he won over America with his wit and charm and his earnestness in his desire to dance better. He was a breath of fresh air, and I think people voted like crazy for him – not just Texans. People KNEW they needed to vote as much as possible to keep him in – no one took his week-to-week success for granted, which I think is also important. Anyway, if it was “all about Texas”, Michael Irvin would have gone much farther
Yeah, those Waltz numbers were a mere 60 seconds which is so paltry it doesn’t even seem worth it. LOL! Defecating would probably have been more acceptable for Len. The judges are worthless when it comes to America’s opinion and these breaks from the rules and tradition are proof the pro’s think so too. It’s just a popularity contest. DWTS is one of my favorite shows and I used to wait for my wife to watch the show with me later. Now I just use the PrimeTime Anytime recording on my DISH DVR the next morning, while I’m getting ready for work. I love how the four major networks are recorded automatically and the evening shows are there waiting for me after midnight. I have to pick up my DISH coworker, so even with leaving earlier, I still get DWTS watched before I leave and then we can talk about it in the car.
Don’t be shocked to see Derek and Shawn’s trio to get an encore, laila. Not saying it will, just don’t be surprised if it does.
@ Figamentation
I didn’t say it was “all about Texas” Fig. But yes, IMO that small bit does have something to do with it in the amount of votes. Of course your likability has to go with it. You can’t just be from Texas for Texans to back you. Michael Irvin had a few brushes with the law and was no where near as well liked as Emmitt with Emmitt’s reputation as a great guy and Irvin still made it to week 7 as did that weenie Jake Pavelka who made it to week 6, I believe. Like I said, I know it sounds ridiculous if you’re not from there but if if you’re a likable Texan, I still think it carries them further in votes than they otherwise would warrant from that state based on dancing ability and/or likability.
@auntie bellum:
As I said, I understand why Gilles did it, but I wish he’d said something to the tune of “who helped to liberate France” instead of “who liberated France”, which lets the audience think that only the U.S. troops did anything, negating the efforts of soldiers and civilians from many other countries (and his own!). And then I thought he was laying it a bit too thick saying that it was the reason he wanted to learn English…
Loved Carrie Ann’s blog this week (which I’m surprised about because I’m usually not the greatest fan of her’s). http://www.lhj.com/blogs/ladieslounge/2012/11/13/carrie-ann-inabas-dancing-with-the-stars-all-stars-blog-week-eight/. I think she said it best about Shawn, Derek and Mark and then more about the competition specifically
“This year it’s all about finding new ways to excite and thrill us while still showing good technique. It’s about pushing the envelope and then delivering. Dancing with The Stars is not a standard ballroom competition. It’s a hybrid dance competition and a television show designed for entertainment.”
Just wondering: why are everyone saying only the ballroom dances were too short? As far as I could tell the trio dances had the same time frame.
Too short? Yes, of course – but it was both dances.
Gitte- you are right, Shawn samba had 1:09, 9 seconds more then the ballroom but still really short.
First Heidi I agree with you which is what I was trying to say earlier…I am going to go with the expert’s review of the Samba…and it was one. Second, I was heart broken when I heard Derek was leaving after this season, but now I guess the mom in me has come out and I just want to say take your wings and fly….he is so far beyond this show. In history, what we would have done without people who weren’t willing to step outside the box and see things differently…we wouldn’t have facebook or other social media, we wouldn’t have cures for diseases etc. Sure DWTS isn’t life altering but in his craft he is one of the very best, I think best evidenced by the honor he got that is documented right here in Pure DWTS…where he was compared to fabulous dancers, iconic dancers in history. One day, most of us are going to look back and think wow, I watched Derek when he was just starting out. Just because as a pro you don’t have the same ability to be creative, to catch people’s attention doesn’t say anything about the ones who do, it says something about the one’s who don’t. I just want to point out that the reason Derek has the large fan base he does every season is because he is willing to take risks, because he is willing to step outside the box and do something different and because he has a way of making his celebs the center of attention and makes them look good.
It is time for Derek to go and I for one will miss seeing him every week…but for someone like Len to say that Derek, Mark and Shawn’s Samba was basically an embarrassment and the pro’s showcasing themselves instead of Shawn is unforgivable. There has never been another pro who has treated the women they worked with more graciously and positively than Derek. It’s time for Len to go home to Britain and retire. He is a has been. How anyone could be so despicable towards Shawn as he was in that POPTV interview is beyond me. As I recall we saw him without his shirt last season and it wasn’t pretty, so he has no right to judge anyone on their looks or stature. “Hit the road Len, and don’t you come back no more.”
Comment on the whole Shawn/Derek trio thing:
Posted over @PDH, there’s a zap2it article where they quote Derek saying, “Besides, Derek insists, the judges’ concern about deviating from the traditional samba was limited to the broadcast. “They had an issue on television, [but] backstage they were like, ‘Oh my gosh, we loved it!’”
I think Derek is a genius. On weeks there is no fan vote, he delivers a stellar, technically perfect routine (paso/tango fusion). On weeks there IS a fan vote, he delivers an exciting, rules pushing dance that gets people talking (trio dance, quickstep). Seriously brilliant.
Wasn’t it Len himself that said this is the AllStar season, the dancers and pros should be pushing the envelope?
Do you want the envelope pushed or handed to you? Sometimes to be outstanding, you have to be different. Unless of course traditional is standing there while two blonde chicks smack your ass.
I thought it was real classy of Shawn to go up and shake Len’s hand and say thank you.
It is a good thing my mama raised me to be a lady because I could really go off on what I really think right now and it would not be pretty.
I seriously don’t understand why so many people (including the other pros apparently) criticize Derek. Even if he and Shawn do have large fan bases (Karina actually has more twitter followers than Shawn but whatevs) than others, Derek knows that good dancers with perfect scores can get booted very easily. This is allstars and after seeing what happened to Sabrina, logically EVERYONE should be doing what Derek and Shawn are doing. Notice that so much buzz went into how much Shawn and Derek got underscored for their rumba and cha cha cha and samba, but because of CA and Bruno, the scores weren’t actually that low at all and have kept them in the top 4 on the leader board all season. Len’s low scores just give the illusion that they are in trouble, which really motivates votes. So Derek is a genius for making this a win/win situation and turning everything to their advantage.
And Val, c’mon man. Derek isn’t breaking/bending rules because he has a fanbase cushion – he is doing it so that the fanbase will vote!
@Lynn – you said what I meant to say perfectly 🙂
Since I’ve been remiss here of late, here’s my take in running order:
Shawn – Consistent quality and I like how she challenges herself. Nice VW and her trio was well performed and entertaining, though lacking in Samba. Len’s comment seemed scripted, his score a bit low.
Apolo – Driven, ambitious. Oddly I think his Latin dances were his best back in Season 4, though now I find his Ballroom (especially when in hold) his strongest. The Karina Effect?
Kirstie- Her VW was lovely. Remarkable lines, grace and emotion in her dancing. Could work on consistency and pull in a bit more content and choreo from her wheelhouse. Unfortunately that gown in the Paso concealed & impeded what she did do.
Kelly – Not soft and fluid enough in VW and her Jive looked slight despite her obvious effort. Still not seeing any real chem with Val and actually thought she looked better dancing next to Louis.
Gilles – Way overscored. He’s looking more ackward and showboaty to me than he did the 1st time around (he was even standing out from the ladies during the trio judging). Also, Peta lacks Cheryl’s S8 sex appeal, so not sure that’s this team’s best tact. Chelsie was the best part of their evening.
Emmitt – Another overscore-ed. Likeable and suave, but too much dancing around him, though always good to have Kym ‘around.’ 🙂
Melissa – Despite being a likeable, competent, consistent dancer, not particularly passionate bout her. Did think this was the best executed trio of the night. Wanna see more from that choreo mastermind.
Melissa: Best individual dance of the night, best trio of the night. She’s the most improved celebrity. Both of the choreographies were spectacular. The last time Tony got a perfect score was in season 8, with Melissa. He doesn’t get those partners often. I’m glad he’s so happy this season and their hard work pays off. Deserved 10s for both dances.
Emmitt: He was so smooth in V. Waltz but I’d like to see a little bit more content. His salsa was much better than Gilles, perhaps Gilles had more content but Emmitt’s salsa was much cleaner. 9.5 for V. Waltz. 9.5 for salsa.
Apolo: His tango was very good, I loved the choreography. The legs could be a little bit sharper. Jive was not great, I wish they would work on the kicks. 9.5 for tango, 9 for jive.
Kelly: V. Waltz was really good, the lifts were cool. Jive was much better. 9 for V. Waltz, 9.5 for jive.
Shawn: She was great in V. Waltz but the choreo could be better, what was Derek doing at the beginning? Whatever, I think it was one of her best dances. Her samba was weird. Even if it was a freestyle, I wouldn’t find it entertaining. Is that the best you can do? They wasted the song. And it did feel a bit offensive, to be honest. 10 for V. Waltz, 8.5 for Samba.
Gilles: His quickstep was good, it was entertaining but it wasn’t very clean and his salsa was not that great. 9.5 for quickstep, 9 for salsa.
Kirstie: Liked her V. Waltz, didn’t liked the paso. 9 for V. Waltz, 8.5 for paso doble.
The “lifts” in Kelly’s V. Waltz were illegal – so she should have been docked for them but wasn’t.
Can’t really count twitter followers, Redcour, since Karina and Cheryl both bought a sizable number before the season started.
PH – funny that this is like the third lift that Carrie Ann misses this season, but of course if your name is Shawn and Derek, even a catch becomes a lift.
Yeah, she turns a blind eye when it’s convenient. I think Melissa also had one last night, but we didn’t hear a peep.
My list, in order.
1-Melissa
2-Kelly
3-Shawn
4-Apolo
5-Emmitt
6-Gilles
7-Kirstie
Melissa’s quickstep was like a short musical scene from a movie. The characters, the attitude, everything was captivating. Paso doble was the opposite of quickstep, serious, dark, and she captured the character of PD. Thumbs up for choreographing around a neck injury.
Kelly’s technique is improving, she’s not struggling with the performance.
Something was lacking in Shawn’s performances yesterday, her technique wasn’t clean. Maybe it’s because of her busy schedule.
Apolo didn’t have anything lacking, but he needs to add something else to his routines, maybe more dance content to push his limits.
Emmitt is entertaining, but he needs to step up his game.
I can’t understand the high scores for Gilles. You know there’s something wrong if he can’t do a proper Argentine Tango. This week it was even worse.
Kirstie is improving actually, but it’s not enough. She’s the weakest dancer left. Her routines need to be more entertaining.