DWTS Season 16, Week 1 – Dancing by the Numbers!
Hello folks (Hi Cheryl!!!)! 🙂 It’s time once again to take a look at the numbers for a week of dancing. Of course, since there was no elimination this week, this is just an exercise to show you where the dancers stand going into week two. Is it possible for D.L. to overcome his extreme deficit? Well, I kinda doubt it, but you never know. Next Tuesday will either reveal that there are some seriously weak fanbases (by someone other than D.L. getting the boot), or it will reveal nothing at all.
Anyway, I think that the judges didn’t screw the pooch too badly this week, but there’s still plenty of time. What did I agree or disagree with? Well, I’m a proponent of a LOT more use of the 3 and 4 paddles in week 1 and they don’t seem to have that in them unless you don’t practice as much as you should. 😉 As much as I LOVED Wynonna, I think they were a bit kind to her – which is SOP for them when it comes to older, dance-challenged ladies. I think Kellie got screwed by going first – also typical for these judges. There’s no way that Dorothy and Aly deserve the same score as her. That said, 21 is a good score for both, I’m just thinking that Kellie deserved a point or two higher. Zendaya? Awesome. Loved the dance and I have high hopes for Val. That said, I think 24 was a bit of a stretch – but only by a point, really. The question on these ladies is – can Kellie keep it up (I think so), can Dorothy loosen up (I hope so) and can Aly ever even HOPE to match up to Shawn (doubt it). No, it’s not fair to compare her to All Stars Shawn – but if you think I’m the only person doing that, yer crazy. It’s how the brain works, whether you want it to or not.
LOVE Andy. Love him. I think he did a better dance that Wynonna did, actually. I certainly enjoyed him FAR more than the cheapo Foxtrot put on by Sean and Peta. What the hell was that, anyway?? But, since Sean is a member of the family, I expect him to be overscored right to the semi-finals. The imaginary scenario…
ABC Exec: :::cough::: Ahem. You know, Conrad, if Sean stays around until, oh, I dunno, week 8 or so, that would tie in perfectly with his and Catherine’s wedding, to air right after DWTS at 9 pm, that week. Whaddaya say?
Conrad: :::sigh::: I’ll see what I can do.
Expect nipples. Just sayin’.
As for the rest of the gang that I haven’t mentioned? Well, there’s a reason for that, I suppose. Jacoby I have no real opinion on, other than him being the odds on favorite to win. Shame, that, since his dance wasn’t all that and there are at least four better dancers than him as of this moment – all women, in case you’re wondering. I loved Donald and Hines right off the bat, and immediately predicted both to win. The fact that I don’t instantly love Jacoby – and often forget about him when thinking/talking about the show, gives me pause – but I think he’ll end up pulling it out and lots of people will be pissed. And to think that the big complaints are previous dance experience!! You wanna ringer, dance with a footballer – they are just as likely to win as anyone with previous dance experience (Mya, Sabrina and so on).
ANYWAY, here’s how the numbers shake out:
So, for the newbies in the room, here’s how the elimination on DWTS works – long form. Each dancer is given a score. At the end of the night, all the scores are added together for a total (Monday night it was 229). Each dancer’s score then has 229 divided into it to get their percentage of the total scores. For Zendaya her score worked out to be 10.48% of the total. The votes are handled the same way. The number of votes for each dancer is added to get a total number of votes. You then divide the total into each individual dancer’s votes to get a percentage of the total. You then add the two percentages together. The dancer with the lowest combined total gets eliminated. Easy peasy.
What I do every week is take the Score percentage of that equation and figure out how many more votes per million votes cast each dancer needs to be “safe” for the week. Then I make a guess based on what I know of them – or what I think I know of them. The vote totals are a complete guess, so there’s no guarantee that I’ll be right. Some seasons I have a great record, other seasons? Not so much.
So, after all that, it’s almost a sure thing that D.L. would be eliminated with these scores, if it weren’t for having a chance at redemption…but we’ll talk more about that later. What would have to happen for D.L. to be called safe with these scores?? ONE of the following things:
– D.L. would have to get 21,850 more votes per million votes cast than Andy, OR;
– D.L. would have to get 26,200 more votes per million votes cast than either Lisa, Victor or Wynonna, OR;
– D.L. would have to get 30,600 more votes per million votes cast than Sean, OR;
– D.L. would have to get 35,000 more votes per million votes cast than either Ingo or Jacoby, OR;
– D.L. would have to get 39,300 more votes per million votes cast than either Kellie, Dorothy or Aly, OR;
– D.L. would have to get 52,400 more votes per million votes cast than Zendaya.
Now, in DWTS land those are pretty big margins. In Season 14, for example, the largest margin week 1 was 22K. Week 2 it was 27K and in week 3 it got up to 30k. Those were the LARGEST margins – like from first place to last place. Here the span from last to first is more than 50K. I think it’s safe to say that neither Zendaya, Kellie, Dorothy or Aly are going anywhere on Tuesday.
It is possible for D.L. to make it past someone, but I find it to be unlikely. I think Andy charmed and got enough votes of his own. If D.L. is going to beat anyone, I would guess it would be Lisa or Victor. Now, if he beats Lisa or Victor in votes, they don’t automatically go home – they could beat someone else in votes. The most likely scenario, if D.L. were to get the votes to beat the two of them, is that one of them would have 1 more vote than the other and get to stick around. If you look at the dancers around Lisa and Victor – Wynonna, Sean, Ingo and Jacoby – I don’t see either of them having the juice to get past any of them. So, they can only get past each other. What is the spread? For Lisa or Victor to be safe (or Wynonna for that matter), they need ONE of the following to happen:
– D.L. doesn’t get 21,850 more votes per million votes cast than any of them, OR;
– Andy doesn’t get 4,400 more votes per million votes cast than any of them, OR;
– Two of them beat the other one by ONE vote, OR;
– One or all of them get 4,400 more votes per million votes cast than Sean, OR;
– One or all of them get 8,700 more votes per million votes cast then either Ingo or Jacoby, OR;
– One or all of them get 13,100 more votes per million votes cast than either Kellie, Aly or Dorothy, OR;
– One or all of them get 26,200 more votes per million votes cast than Zendaya.
As it stands right now, I don’t think D.L. passes anyone to stick around. If he passes someone, I think it will be Lisa and/or Victor. If he beats one, he beats both, since they have the same score. In that case, I think Andy easily beats Lisa, if not both Lisa and Victor. If he does beat both of them, then I think Victor gets one more vote than Lisa does…although I could certainly be wrong. Lisa at least has her dog going for her.
But remember – we have to add another score on Monday night before anyone goes home. Unfortunately, D.L. would need to be near perfect AND he would need someone else (Andy, Lisa or Victor) to fail badly to give him a better shot of sticking around.
Hey thanks for the great explanation…even though I’m not a newbie I wasn’t quite sure what formula you were using and you did make it “easy peasy” to understand.
Thanks! I appreciate the opinion/commentary to go with the numbers!
Oh my favorite series is back (along with Court’s Power Rankings). Excellent and thanks so much for these!!
And Heidi that will be sad if ABC keeps Sean in this until the week he gets married just because he’s in the family. I hope not. And like you, I enjoyed Andy and Sharna’s dance better too. Plus, Andy has the enternment factor in spades. I think Andy is better than Aly too.
Anyway, I say hands down D.L. is going home next week too!!
HEIDI!!! God forbid you point out how truly SCREWED D.L. is – that’s negative and like, really, really mean. You should be “all about the positive”, like Cheryl – you better redact this whole post and change the tone to something more like “D.L. may have had a rough week, but I’m sure he’ll improve drastically next week and get a perfect score and then go on to win the whole season!!!” Remember: if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all…having an opinion is only ok if that opinion is positive. Rainbows should constantly be shooting out of your ass as you write your posts. 😀
Sorry…just had to. 😉
I thought I felt something, Court…nah, just gas. 🙂
Thanks guys. 🙂
… and the snark factor is back! Nobody does it better than PH and Court! Thanks for all the numbers too! I like Andy’s dancing a whole lot more than Wynonna’s too! Hope his jazz is good! Jazz hands anyone?!?
Bwahaha…little troll thinks she’s funny and clever. She be wrong.
Cheryl’s a public figure, dumb ass. If she doesn’t like criticism she’s in the wrong business. Tough crap.
I just love it when the stats are served with a side of snark.
Anyone got a hankie so I can practice waving buh-bye to DL and his positively pissed partner?
Speaking of snark, cheesecake…?
… and Courtney and PH open the can of DWTS whoop-ass early this season! 😀 LOL
This post is the reason I come here, unfortunately, my shrieks of laughter have sent the poor cat under the bed. He’ll probably be there for days. Wouldn’t mind if D.L. stays and that Lisa lady goes home. That poor dog needs some relief. 🙂
For some reason when I read expect nipples I thought it said erect nipples and what goes through my brain? “THAT turns an exec on? TMI man, TMI.” Yeah, had to be there.
Speaking of negativity it is a good thing Cheryl did not see our Giles is Douche Lord rant all of last season. 🙂 Then again Giles wasn’t her celebrity and I don’t think she cares if we “critique” the other pros.
Back on topic the by the numbers made results night more fun for me last season and I hope it will be the same way this season. It is fun to sit there and count in your head “Ok, so and so has no fan base since they got the boot.” I just hope they do not do this season what they did last and end up double eliminations every other week because they decided NOT to send someone home. That got to be old fast.
That being said it would take a divine intervention for D.L. to come back from Monday. Possible? Yes. Probable? No.
Not only the dancing part but I do not think he came off really well in his package Monday or last night. Which is a shame because I really like him as a comic. One bad thing about a show like DWTS you get to see the celebrity’s personality more and it kind of kills the image you had of them. Andy Dick on the other hand completely won me over.
I really hope Sean doesn’t last until week 8.
Thank you for putting this together lady and thank you for making me laugh my booty off by saying hi to Cheryl. You are too much sometimes. 🙂
LOL, Auntie, but poor kitty. 🙂 My guess is Giggy gets more relief with Lisa doing DWTS. She can’t rehearse while holding him. So he must get several hours or more each day to sit peacefully on a comfy doggy pillow without anyone bothering him.
One of the reasons I hope DL and Cheryl go home next week is that it will give the newbie pros an extra week on the show. Season 13 didn’t do any favors for the new pros because of the week 1 eliminations. The only new pro this season that interests me is Sharna, but I’m sure there are others who would like a little more time to get to know all three of them.
Hmmmm…what does it say when a troll claims we’re “irrelevant” and “trashy”, yet still continues to crop up to troll? Tells me we’re clearly relevant enough to troll, or else they wouldn’t waste their time 😉 Bless her heart…
I’m starting to get the feeling that D.L. wasn’t very popular to begin with – judging from a few other boards (some of them not even DWTS boards), he just seems to rub a lot of people the wrong way. One poster even said she “voted for everyone EXCEPT D.L.” in the hope that he’d get sent home next week. If only it worked that way 🙂
On the flip side, I’ve actually heard almost universal praise for Andy – lots of people pleasantly surprised by him, to the point where they threw him some votes. I’m thinking he could last far longer than we initially imagined this season!
Thanks for the numbers warmup – these posts always help to create more realistic expectations for elimination nights.
I’m hearing nothing but good things on Andy too. I love how the press room appauded him louder than all the rest of the contestants after they danced. So cute!
Now, ya’ll are cracking me up. 🙂
Cheese starts next week kiddies. You know we get way more material from the results show. 😀 Yo, Cheryl…DO NOT read the cheesecake. Trust me. 😉
Did you see Derek and Mark giving Andy the big support on Twitter. Very sweet of both of them, I thought. I have a feeling I know who the pros are who told him to “man up”.
If only the mods knew just how good they were at. Turning a negative into a positive. This poster had no clue what the Internet meaning for the word troll was. Even I got to admit my posts seemed more offensive than neutral. MODS I TRULY AM SORRY FOR BEING RUDE. AND A DISTURBING POSTER. For the one who defended the site. I bet you’ve dealt with a lot of people that have said or done worse than me. I honestly am not a horrible person. And there is no telling how stressed out all of you that runs this site gets. After having to deal with a troll. We all have our favorite DWTS pros. I prefer judging them based on more than what we see on the dance floor. To me it’s personality then talent. I admit I may sling mud towards pros. For example. I like Derek more than I like Mark. But, there is a certain way that the Chmerkovskiys move when they dance. That makes me prefer them over both Derek and Mark. Gleb has some of that style. Tristan he’s got some type of style that makes me like him. A little more than Tony. Tony finally won the MBT. Followed by a huge backlash. On the question. “HOW?” I put Louis with Tony. The women it is anybody’s ball game. It does become a issue of who they are paired up with. Sorry going to go there. They don’t have to be raunchy, or throw their beauty around to know how to dance. You can bring sexy out of the women. Better than you can the men. Yes you can say that who can teach the men the most. Is a deciding factor. Not all of the male celebrities on DWTS have been easy to work with. When it relates too the Disney Kids. Watching Val with Zendaya. And looking back at the cast of season 14. Chelsie was the best pro for Roshon. Some may say that she is way too laid back. Or has this attitude about it. All of the pros have that same attitude. They deal with it differently. Could you picture Kym, Karina, Cheryl, or PETA working with Roshon. The only two that I feel like fit the bill. Was Anna, and Chelsie. Anna can play both the sexy, and good gal pro parts. For seasons the show has been trying to target the younger audience. Chelsie was the better pro for the pairing. It could be just me and I’m wishful thinking. The fan base wasn’t there for Chelsie, and Roshon. It’s strange how Maks, and Melissa struggled through out the season. Derek and Maria also struggled throughout the season. Mark and Katherine were okay but, too elegant. Cheryl and William, PETA and Donald. They all had that sexy factor that was in quite a few ways very over played. I am one I don’t like the football stance. This season Jacoby’s first dance may have been rough. But, there was no Football stance. If Karina gets him into delivering his dances. He’s going to be the stronger male celebrity. Out of all of the pros that were surrounding Chelsie. In season 14, plus the way season 15 ended in the Finale. Would TPTB or the Pros went with Chelsie and Roshon for the win had the votes and fan base been there. It’s strange how in the All Stars they paired her up with Helio a previous winner. A far bigger celebrity than Roshon and Mark with Bristol. Who knocked two former champions out. Then got eliminated. But, every week Derek and Shawn brought us some memorable dances. Tony, and Melissa some of the same but, not that many. They got 10’s when Derek and Shawn didn’t. If Derek has a large fan base. How the heck did Tony win last season. Personally every season that I’ve seen so far with Chelsie on it competing. It seems like during the results show, or group dances. We often see her in that one shot that stands out in the group dances. And then when pairing up with other pros. It’s pros that can help her improve all around. These pros create better dances when they work together. Than they do when they have celebrities. Sorry PH. Your 4 letters to TPTB. Don’t think that they read them. Everything that you brought up, a majority of the fans that watch the show complained about. I may gripe about Derek. But, choreographer wise he’s still the best for the men. It’s his style that is getting too simple for me. And he does raise the bar awful high early in the competition. In which makes it difficult for him to continue through out the season. Especially when he does get paired with better partners. Mark is the same way, they have two completely different ways of teaching. Derek is more smoother and nicer to watch. Mark gets on my nerves some times. I better stop the troll is coming. I picked Val and Zendaya, and Derek and Kellie. It was hard for a third couple. Cheryl is in trouble big time with DL. 🙁
Freakin’ troll spelled “this” wrong. What is the world coming to? Either that or we have one that is pretending to be Shakespeare…
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So happy to see that it’s almost impossible for DL to stick around after next week. Of course, there’s another night of dances to factor in, but I don’t think Cheryl’s fanbase is going to make up for the lack of dancing, and the way DL seems to be turning people off.
So, after they dance next week, will *all* of the points (and the votes) get lumped into one big bucket? For instance, assume the Stooges hand out basically the same overall number of points next week (229) – wouldn’t that mean the scores are divided by 458? Reason I ask is – that could flatten-out the percentages a bit. Having said that, I agree that it’ll take an act of God (or really funky accounting) for D.L. to hang around next week, and good. 🙂
Saying hi to Cheryl, fantastic! I always get a good laugh on this site as well as a wealth of information.
Purely on the celebs personalities, which is a big factor in how long they stay,I was surprisingly pretty happy with everyone except D.L. and Sean, and even with D.L. I don’t hate him the way I’ve hated some performers in the past. I still definitely want him gone first, and will be very shocked if he isn’t. But I don’t hate him.
And I just find Sean bland and fake, but I don’t hate him – yet. I’m sure I will quckly start to hate him when he lasts several weeks over better dancers and more interesting performers because he gets propped up by the show. Right now I just find his ridiculous statements in the press hilariously entertaining.
I was pleasantly surprised by Lisa, I had heard she was the nicest/most normal of the housewives and that’s apparently true. I didnt even mind the dog, oddly enjoyed Sasha being his “doggie butler”, and normally dogs in clothes annoy me.
I was relieved by Kellie, I liked her – so far. I remember I liked her at first on Idol but couldn’t stand her playing up the country bumpkin act because people were responding to it, she got very fake by the end. She seems more mature and real, I hope that lasts.
It’s a shame Victor can’t dance, as I liked him as well. Really overall one of the most pleasant casts they’ve had.
Like all three of the new pros as well, although I think Lindsay is a little bland. Still can’t stand the judges, though. They (and the produers) are still in the doghouse with me. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to stand them again.
Yes, Sally…all points and all votes. It does decrease the margin but probably not that much. Now if DL does well and Andy crashes and burns I would be worried for him…or more likely Lisa.
LOL comment 4!
Thanks for the numbers post – always look forward to your analysis. (And without an elimination this week, we have a freebie refresher course to remember how this all works.)
I, for one, do NOT miss the .5 paddles. Do you think that had any affect on the margins Heidi? Or do we have such a large spread just because of DL’s 12?
And I have to say, it is quite funny to read the moderated comments on this post. I have no clue what the trolls were saying, but it is fun to imagine their rants.
“expect nipples. Just sayin'” … That made me laugh, it’s not quite cheesecake, but it is enough to last me to next week.
Love the post as always, such insight.
Cheryl needs to get over herself. I think it’s going to take a miracle, divine intervention, whatever you want to call it, to keep DL around. He was horrible. The dance was horrible. I don’t think he would get any better even if he put the time in to learn the dances. Do any of you know if Cheryl has ever been the first voted off? We know that won’t sit well with her. But she needs to realize it can happen to anyone. The only other person I see with a possibility of going home is Lisa. But really, the odds are it’s DL and that won’t disappoint me.
Well I am worried for Andy doing the Jazz this week, he is up against Kellie and Cocky Jones (oh excuse me, I meant Jacoby Jones), both with a heavy fanbase.
After having such a Hi on Monday night it could be devastating for him to be on the chopping block this week.
It thought I read that DL and the Cheryl have the QS. With Cheryl being in hold that could help his scores, but I think the viewers would most likely rally behind Andy though, and not DL. At least I hope so.
Comment #31 – Oh boy, I meant to type *such a high on Monday night*….
I guess it’s not always a good idea to post too early in the morning. 🙂
Cocky Jones? Wow. To each his/her own I guess…:-(
I like Jacoby.
I like Zendaya 😀
Mod-mavens-Kellie Pickler’s dance was changed ? from jive to jazz for week 2 ? Was anyone else’s dance changed?
I know it’s said that You Tube isn’t necessarily an indicator, but based on what I’m seeing there I think we probably have our finale couples, Jacoby and Kellie.
@les227, “To each his/her own I guess”…yep, that’s right.
I like dessert. Just thought I’d throw that out there 😛
mimi, it certainly appears that Kellie’s dance was indeed changed, based on Derek’s talking about his Jive and how excited he was about it. It sounded like they had it down before the premiere. And now, they’re saying it’s Jazz. Which bites big time. But I don’t know if anyone else’s dance was changed because I’m not watching all the couples close enough. It does seem that there was a lot of confusion about what Andy was doing – same thing, Jive/Jazz – and it was originally attributed to people not talking clearly. Now I wonder. If I have time I may look into it. Or maybe Vogue knows.
@Katarina, I dunno…I think Jacoby and Kellie are serious contenders, but I feel it’s too early for any indicators to be valid, and my guess is a ton of folks watch DWTS who never watch anything on You Tube.
We can’t count on that, Katarina. If you add all the different video views of just one of Shawn’s dances…say, Bhangra, or whatever…and then take those same uploaders and add Melissa’s dances for that same week and often you see Shawn has views in the millions to Melissa’s in the tens of thousands. And we know what happened there. It’s not just one dance, either, it’s like ALL of them. Just another one of those squirely things about last season.
I have to say I was surprised that Kellie had cha-cha followed by jive – 2 Latin dances in the first 2 weeks. That doesn’t usually happen until later in the season. Heck, even Joanna had the foxtrot relay tossed in there. But I’m even more surprised that TPTB tell them to get a jive routine going, then switch it to jazz. Doesn’t seem right. Has Derek confirmed it’s jazz as well?
Heidi, I haven’t heard if anyone’s elses dances have changed, but, Derek and Kellie’s which I think is so unfair.
I don’t think TPTB give a rat’s hiney about doing what’s right by any of the couples. That’s never been on their radar. They do whatever they think will get them the most interesting show. If they thought the viewers liked the contemporary routines, they might have decided to throw in more of the other new dance style sooner rather than later.
Jazz routines can be great, fun et al, if there’s enough time to rehearse and Kellie could probably nail it going by what we have seen…but the BIG but is does Len hate it….do they even know how to judge and do they lean more to subjective judging ?? One again this really smells. Feel bad for them after all the work on jive and there is nothing worse than not “Knowing” the routine so it’s kinda auto-pilot when you get in front of so many people. Guess we had to know if she was any good they’d start this s–t. HATE IT
yeah i concur with being hesitant to judge by youtube views…and if you were, zendaya & val have one vid thats almost at 100k already.
but didnt pam anderson have a bunch of views on her cha cha the first week? and that didnt turn out so well for her
If it did get changed Kellie and Derek obviously got screwed. But since there is nothing that can change it, I will look on the bright side which to me is – at least she has the Jive down pretty well going by what Derek said and so when she does get it later in the season… and especially if she gets it when they have to do two dances… at least she’ll have a head start and won’t have to learn it from scratch. I’d be more worried if she got screwed later in the season when she could be in real danger rather than now when she isn’t going home any time soon. Not that this is any way changes the unfairness of this.
Now if when she does eventually get the Jive, they give her a brand new song and not the one she originally learned it too, then I will be outraged beyond belief. Hopefully that won’t happen and she will get to Jive to the song Derek has already choreographed.
Thank goodness Princess Heidi is a self proclaimed nerd – so she can give us this analysis, and explain the workings to us all. Was so looking forward to Kellie and Derek’s jive, after hearing him get excited about it.. and really, really sad to hear that you think Sean will last for 8 weeks, ugh!
First of all thanks PH for the great explanation of how this all works. I must have missed the explanation last season so really appreciate knowing how this works. I will be happy to see DL go and Cheryl as well. I am one of those who thought she should have taken this season off. I know ever since she had William Levy I became definitely disappointed in her. I almost didn’t recognize her. It may have even been before William, but for some reason that season sticks out for me. To be honest she was never my favorite, but was much better than she has become. Loved your call out to her in the beginning. 🙂
I already wrote a long post on the Power Rankings (thread? is that the right terminology that you use on this site?) with my disgust of their changing Derek and Kellie’s dance after they had spent all the time on that, but as someone mentioned as least it was not later in the season, but still it was totally unfair. Totally agree with all the previous posters opinions of the TPTB and the judges – they are in the dog house with me as well.
@NancyM Post #25 thank you for saying what you did in regards to Sean. I feel exactly the same way. I just find it so fake that a guy who claims to not want fame would first be on the Bachelorette season and from that go to being the Bachelor (looking for love who turned out to be Catherine who he mentions over and over how much he loves, and both are supposed to be so extremely private) – to DWTS and also announce they are getting married on national TV. I’m sorry, but how are either one of them not wanting fame? I have been told that it is all because the money will provide them a wonderful way to start their married life and why not? On top of that he is suppose to be a shy guy and yet he had no problem taking his shirt off at the drop of a hat. I just watched the last four episodes and lost count at how many times he managed to do that even though he claimed he was not comfortable doing it. I apologize to any fans of his or the show on here, but I only tuned in at the end to see the places they were visiting. That was my long way around of saying that positively we will be seeing his nipples. I would think everyone has seen them so much already that they would be sick of them. After seeing what Giles and Peta did last season I don’t have much faith in her and I am sure it will be sexed up numbers. I know it was only week one and maybe he will improve, but I totally thought he was overscored last week. The routine was cheesy and his dance did not flow. I just don’t want him to over stay in place of someone who is better just because it works into TPTB’s plans. If he is deserving then that is another story.
I really hope that Andy and Sharma give us another performance like they did week one. I liked her and I liked him as well. It was a heart warming performance and a nice surprise.
Victor has a wonderful smile and seems really nice. I agree with those who say Lindsay may not be the best partner since she is so new at this.
PH, Courtney and Vogue thanks for all the wonderful laughs and hard work you have provided. 🙂
I’d agree with you, Jenn, if I wasn’t worried about Kellie having to learn a new routine and possibly mixing up the steps.
Damn you, producers. I just want to see good dancing. Is that really too much to ask?
So interesting conflict of info on twitter…Cheryl tweeted yesterday that DL learned the whole dance in four or five hours…I forget which and then DL tweets today he is trying to learn the quick step but that it is tough and if he doesn’t the only dance he will be learning is the kicked off one….so me wonders…lol….hmmmn…who is telling the truth? I know I mentioned her name again….she is gonna be mad…but it’s not negative it is just a question…lol!!
@Lynne – I would tend to believe that latter.
I just can’t see the viewers rallying behind DL next week. Their week 1 performance was just dreadful.
DL cannot possibly overcome that huge deficit and I don’t see him being able to do a decent quick step to make up any ground. He’s the first off. It would be nice if Sean goes shortly after. He’s boring but I’m betting he does stick around so the wedding can be promoted until we all gag from hearing about it. Andy is such a surprise and I would like to see him around awhile. It would give him more confidence and help with his recovery. I give him a lot of credit for facing up to the trouble he caused himself and others and turning his life around.
I heard an interview last eve. with a DWTS pro/commentators that was disappointing even though it confirmed some of what I’ve thought for a while. Condensing a little, the pro said when asked if the judges “see” rehearsals & perhaps decide certain things based on that…the answer was, well the judges are there, they have TV’s in their dressing rms, and do we think they watch…you decide, cause sometimes their comments don’t match the live performance(or somethg close to that). It has been so obvious at times that they are “setting up” & “positioning” to cause a certain result&to keep some contestants while getting rid of others and I think they base a lot of that on studying+then discussing reh. footage amongst themselves(perhaps including producers)so they can present a logical scenario at least to their thinking, for that to happen.(NOTE-conjecture on my part from watching what has gone down on this show esp. in recent seasons). I continue to vote cause I have a favorite pro, Derek Hough, the best dancer/choreographer around right now and if he’s voted off a couple other pros(stars) I vote for IF they have good partners, do good dances but so many people don’t vote cause they say it doesn’t matter, in their opinions this show is pre-determined to a certain extent unless the one or two people the show “expects, promotes, or pimps” to win just really blow it somehow. The show lately has been saying, well its not only the dancing but the whole pkg and yadda, yadda and that would be fine, I guess if it were just left up to the audience. I also think that at times the judges are really not happy with “what they’ve been told” to stick with the program…but then their jobs probably hinge on sticking to the plan. I have heard and read things in the past(along with all the blatant mis-scoring, etc., but it is still disappointing. Again this is my opinion based on several yrs of viewing.
Just realized there are two of us posting as Gail on her (at least 🙂
I agree with most of what you said, Raine, and would go further. I don’t think the judges have any input whatsoever, other than perhaps being allowed to make a joke or cute comment. I think the producers alone determine the tenor of the comments and the number of the score. Maybe they let them deviate, slightly, if something unforeseen happens, but I bet that varies, depending on how important it is, that particular week, that a certain couple be upgraded or downgraded.
I think they do this on Strictly in England as well. I saw a contestant forget his dance early and go sit on the stairs, and he was scored 8’s because the storyboard required that a certain contestant be ousted so that another one could win (not the one who blanked and quit his dance to sit on the stairs, though he came second place overall. The fix was to get rid of the “real” competition for their designated winner.)
Sorry that was such a convoluted explanation, but I think it was proof that this thing is fixed, most of the time. And I agree the judges are often not happy with what they’re made to say, but that was in the job description when they signed on, and I’m sure they signed contracts promising never to tell.
Gail2, LOL, I’m glad I came up with an unusual moniker for myself. It’ll be a strange day when there’s another “Cidra” on the site 😛 … but enough about me.
Since I started paying attention to Strictly, I’ve become even more suspicious about the legitimacy of the marks the judges give (although I think DWTS is worse). Len is “Mr. Cranky Pants” on the US series, yet the things that drive him crazy on DWTS usually don’t bother him on Strictly. There he’s the good guy and CRH is the one who’s always bamming on about how “ghaaastly” the dance was.
Good point, Cidra, and smart name choice! Yep, it was Strictly that sealed the deal for me, and I’m glad it did because I don’t feel as confused anymore. Strictly also invented the “Dance Off”. Well, BBC used it there first, as another manipulation ace up their sleeve. And I do think DWTS is even worse – maybe ABC gets its two cents in, in addition to the baseline fakery that BBC starts with.
I have a friend in Germany who says their version of DWTS is even less subtle about it. She finds it more entertaining to try to guess what our version is trying to make us do – with hers, it’s bleeding obvious. So I suppose we should be flattered that they make an effort to hide the trickery. Although that 15-point bonus cha cha will live on in infamy (at least they haven’t pulled that sucker out again!)
My son asked me one time, “You know all reality shows are fake, don’t you?” I said, “Yes.” Then he said, “Well why do you watch?” I was stumped for an answer. Eye candy I guess. It’s sure not to see anything remotely genuine or fair.
My Poem for Week One
THE BALLROOM GLOW
Season 16 opened with a razzle-dazzle show
The ballroom was on fire with a sizzling glow
Cheers rang out, the couples took their places
Excitement builds, smiles adorned lovely faces
The men looked handsome and hot as can be
The ladies were stunning for our eyes to see
The dancers jitters were shaken off at the door
Dancing shoes soon clicked on the dance floor
Foxtrotters were Sean and Peta, Sharna and Andy
Victor and Lindsay, Lisa and Gleb, fine and dandy
The Cha Cha bunch, Aly and Mark, D L and Cheryl
Kellie and Derek, Tony and Wynonna were a’twirl
Jacoby and Karina Cha Cha was like a live wire
They gave their all, they set the audience on fire
The contemporary dances were flowing and free
Ingo and Kym, Dorothy and Tristan a treat to see
Zendaya and Val’s contemporary was full of heart
Season 16 is off to a marvelous, captivating start
The dancers return to the floor on Monday night
Week 2 is sure to be a blazing, bedazzling sight!
Written By Lois A Troutman, March 23, 2013
WE ARE THRILLED SEASON SIXTEEN IS FINALLY HERE!
WE GIVE ROUSING APPLAUSE! STAND UP AND CHEER!