DWTS Season 16, Week 7 – The Details of Latin Week (Weigh In With Your Opinions)!
We’ve been having this discussion in an older post, and as a result some of you may have missed the new details that seem to be emerging about Latin Week. You can read some of the details in Vogue’s earlier post regarding DWTS Week 7, and you can also see the video of Henry discussing what he knows of Latin week here —> Henry talks Latin Week. It’s a short video – you can watch it for yourself and see what you make of it.
I’m posting this up here at the top to try to involve more people in the discussion (no trolling, though, kiddies). As I understand it, the high scoring couple is immune from elimination, right off the bat. Then, the second highest scoring couple gets first choice of who they want to dance against in a “challenge”. According to Derek’s blog, it seems this happens on Tuesday – but I’m not really sure how they’re going to work this. They have 7 couples doing one dance each in two hours?? That’s a whole bunch of free time for filler – as long as that filler is more dancing I guess I’m okay with that – but the results show could be a nightmare.
Anyway, the couples will be dancing either Cha Cha, Jive or Rumba. Not sure how it’s determined who does what, plus certain couples have already done some or all of these dances.
All Three
Kellie/Derek
Jacoby/Karina
Cha Cha and Jive
Zen/Val
Sean/Peta
Cha Cha Only
Aly/Mark
Andy/Sharna
Ingo/Kym
As I see it there are two ways this can go – the couples do what they did last year and try not to overtly screw anyone over. This will be extremely difficult because no matter who you pick, there could be hard feelings. Not to mention – how nice can you be when there are points at stake?? I hate this – if they are going to make them do this, then I’d almost rather have TPTB do the picking as it’s much more obvious manipulation, as opposed to the couples picking and ruining the camaraderie this cast has…and still being manipulated on the front end by the judges. I have to think that either Zen, Kellie or Aly will win the immunity – possibly Kellie since she’s already danced all three of the dances. More likely, Zendaya because she HASN’T danced all three of the dances. She’s the one that’s lined up to be the “next big thing” and is part of the family, so best keep her safe. It doesn’t matter, really which woman wins…as you will see below. 😉
I’ve seen some say they think Kellie will win it in order to get Zendaya’s fans all riled up and make them vote. It could happen, I suppose. It requires me to believe that TPTB are not only very Machiavellian but SMART. I have some trouble with that, at this point. 😀 Not only that, it could be risky. Say that Aly wins immunity and Kellie is second highest – and Kellie/Derek pick Zendaya to challenge. If they get to choose dance style, they could challenge her to a rumba. AWKWARD. 🙂 It would be risky on Derek and Kellie’s part, but not only is Kellie not very competitive, it would be a big ole “screw you” to the producers who clearly set this up to guarantee the elimination of one of the lower tier dancers – probably Andy. This is an idea I like – which means it won’t happen. 🙂
Okay, so the couples could try to beat TPTB at their own game, but I think the second option is more likely, for most or all of them, and that is – pick the easiest person to beat in a challenge. Some might find that “mean” – although since Zen’s likely to win, I doubt many will. Her COTC fans seem to think everyone is mean except them, and they are the biggest offenders. But, like I said, there are points involved and the pros have a responsibility to their partners to try to make sure they are safe. The only one I can see NOT worrying about this is Derek and Kellie – and frankly, that concerns me. If ever there were a couple unlikely to try to hose someone, it’s those two. And that also makes me wonder if they will win immunity – if TPTB are going for drama and the guaranteed elimination of a bad dancer, then best take the person most likely to not play along out of the game. Put Zen in second place, Val totally goes after Andy, Zen wins and still ends up at the top of the leader board. Ta DA!! 🙂
So how will it play out? I’m almost starting to look forward to see which level of manipulation they will chose. Okay, so the show is not as fun in terms of a dance competition as it used to be, but I could get into this as a sport of seeing how much they actually CAN manipulate the outcome. 🙂 We’ll see. The other thing is the dance selection – are they going to pull it out of the hat BEFORE they choose who to challenge? Because that will make a big difference – if, say, Kellie and Derek pull rumba, that could influence who they do or don’t pick. Or are they going to be paired and THEN pull the dance? Which also allows TPTB to manipulate it again. Think balls breaking open accidentally. 🙂
Also, for those of you who were not following the conversation in the other post, just to see how this affects the leader board and the voting – and to see why I think it guarantees the elimination of probably Andy here’s the hypothetical numbers. Let’s say the leader board ends up looking like this on Monday night:
Zen – 30
Kellie – 29
Aly – 28
Sean – 25
Jacoby – 24
Ingo – 24
Andy – 20
So, in this scenario, Zen would be safe. Nothing more to worry about, no more dancing to do. Kellie has to pick someone to challenge – I can’t decide if she and Derek go with Andy or if they go with Sean or Ingo, but for the sake of the numbers, let’s say they pick Andy. Regardless of the dance style, Kellie is likely to win. That means she gets three points. Next, Aly has to pick someone to challenge, she likely picks Sean or Ingo…or possibly Jacoby, depending on the dance style. This is where strategy comes into play. If it’s a straight up school yard pick with no regard to the dance style – or even if it’s not – I think it’s wise to avoid Jacoby and go with either Sean or Ingo. Jacoby can pull off a fun Cha Cha or Jive and that would be risky – although probably not very much. So, Aly likely wins her challenge and gets 3 points added to her score.
Keep in mind also, that this really screws up the total points, for those keeping track. Right now Kellie and Zen are very close (1 point difference) – this could screw this up in a big way, unless only points given based on dances scored on a 30 point scale are counted, and what are the odds that the show does that? Anyway, the third highest scorer after the immunity person then has to dance with whoever is left – probably Jacoby versus Sean. I tend to think Jacoby would win that one. The new leader board would look like this:
Kellie – 32
Aly – 31
Zen – 30
Jacoby – 27
Sean – 25
Ingo – 24
Andy – 20
That would drop Zenddaya to third place but so what? She would be SAFE no matter what. Kellie has 12 points on Andy, and Aly has 11 points on Andy. I seriously doubt either of them would be in trouble either. Unless fans get complacent and don’t vote, of course. Everyone else has AT LEAST four points on Andy, and possibly more – I was being generous giving him a 20. I doubt the judges will be so kind. Here’s what Andy would have to get to be safe, in this scenario:
– 21,200 more votes per million votes cast than Ingo, OR;
– 26,500 more votes per million votes cast than Sean, OR;
– 37,000 more votes per million votes cast than Jacoby, OR;
– 58,200 more votes per million votes cast than Aly, OR;
– 63,500 more votes per million votes cast than Kellie.
I don’t see any way for him to be safe in this scenario, unless he’s doing much better than I think he is and he takes out either Sean or Ingo. Sean was in the bottom two last week, but Andy only needed 8k to get past him. It’s more than three times that this week. The only time he was in the bottom two was week 3; DL was beating him and everyone else had a three point lead on him. A lot has changed since then, the question is, has it changed enough?
So, what do you all think?? Is this a bid to get rid of Andy?? Just more stupid Tom Foolery because TPTB are bored children? Just designed to keep their future money maker Zendaya safe?? Or some combination of all of the above??
What would happen if there is a tie at the top of the leaderboard? What would they do then?
This is a really interesting post, Princess Heidi! 🙂
I read this first comment back in Vogue’s post. I agree with a lot being said. For the first time in the history of my watching DWTS, I’m hoping my favorite BOMBS a dance. Like, I really want Zendaya to just blow her performance on Monday. Not because I don’t like her. But because I do. We know she’s go the fan base, but if they REALLY want to manipulate Zendaya, then give us some drama. Make her stumble. Make her fall from her former glory. Give her the freaking redemption arc. SOMETHING other than this disgusting game they’re playing.
Just a little clarification: That was only IF the producers wanted to manipulate Zendaya. I prefer that they just leave her alone altogether.
Thinking along the lines of DM because Kellie & Zendaya have tied for positions twice.. I believe. Also, what if the goal is to have Kellie & Zendaya go head to head prior to the finals? TPTB & the outside agency are the only ones who know how the voting numbers for everyone outside the bottom two are going. Judges scoring ALWAYS riles fan bases but will it shift the unaligned & are TPTB trying for a more subtle shift than the “We’ve never won before mantra of last season”?
Plus while their both competitive Disney darling going after everyone’s favorite redemption story would put ugly on the princess. The goal could be as simple as what’s happening… create a lot of social chatter & interest to tune in to see how it really goes down & play out.
Awesome post, Miss!! Thanks for the numbers too. But grrrr, I think this is indeed a way they can’t get rid of Andy and it makes me more angry than anything TPTB has ever done!!!! SAD!!!!! 😡 🙁
this all seems really complicated but very interested to watch. I mean strategically it would be best for the “higher tier” couples to pick a “lower tier” couple but could this create tension? or would the couples pick someone up to their own level?
I personally would like to see Zendaya vs. Kellie because both of them are great dancers and it would be a fun to watch instead of saying Zendaya vs. Andy or Sean because clearly Zendaya would win if it were based on technique.
but this kind of also raises the question.. will the judges make sure that they only score one couple the top score? Say if Zendaya or Kellie both had amazing dances and totally earned a 30 but because Kellie went first and earned a 30, Zendaya would only be scored a 29 just because of the immunity? or maybe they would do a dance off between the highest scorers if it were a tie? I don’t know.. I feel like they would combine all the scores and average them out if this were the case to see who gets immunity
I think it would have been better if there were no immunity and 6 couples (even number) so each would dance but the highest scorer would pick first but EACH got to dance.
eh.. we’ll see on Monday/Tuesday how this works I guess
and.. I personally would rather see Sean and Ingo go before Andy (LOVE HIM!!)
I think that as usual this is just a way to mix things up, get more chatter going, more attention being paid and thus ratings. It’s too complicated to just be a way to keep Zendaya safe. And I absolutely do not believe it’s a way to get rid of Andy – TPTB have to know that people love watching Andy dance, and that he’s helping to bring in viewers. The JUDGES may want Andy to be gone if they think he’s the weakest dancer, but I highly doubt that the producers do. If this in fact results in Andy’s elimination, I think that will be a sad unintended consequence.
They are just desperate to keep things interesting and are constantly throwing new ideas at the wall – making couples pick dances for each other, new dance styles, trios, old pros, etc, etc.
@DM comment 1 I’m sure the judges have been “advised” not to give tie scores
Ingo & Andy both have rumba this week so Aly is really the only one who has to prepare 3 dances for this week she’s never done before (Salsa, then jive & Rumba). Regardless I’m sure Aly will be fine this week, and I agree this challenge probably helps her (and Kellie & Zendaya.)
I think it would be hilarious if Zendaya is 2nd, doesn’t get immunity, challenges Andy and somehow ends up with Rumba. The situation would be so awkward it could only result in hilarity.
Thanks PH. This mess gives me a headache. I’m so tired of all this manipulating by TPTB. I actually feel bad for the celebs – was this what they signed up for and would any celeb, after seeing this, want to do the show?
No matter what, the comardarie that appears to be happening will suffer.
I’m actually not sure what the show is trying to do or who they are trying to get rid of. All the scenarios make sense.
Guess we’ll just have to wait and see. OY!
It almost makes your head hurt trying to think like whoever thought up this nightmare. But, I have to admit I’m curious to see how it’s put into play. I just don’t want the casualty to be Andy. He’s doing for this season what Ty Murray did for his. I would not be sad to see Sean or Ingo hang up their “dancing” shoes. I think the 4 front runners will be safe, they may just swap leader board positions. Just to stir things up.
Or this could be yet another way TPTB could do the Derek Vs. Val BS I was hoping they wouldn’t go for.
It might also be a way to get rid of either Jacoby or Andy because the dance fairies aren’t very nice to either of them.
Unless some major manip is going on it could always backfire on them.
Likely, DM, Zendaya would be given the immunity because she’s one point ahead of Kellie in total points – assuming the tie is between those two. If it’s between Zen and someone else, Zen gets it, if it’s between Kellie and Aly, then Kellie would get it.
Actually, Tony, I’m not all that sure she has the votes.
Buttercup, while I agree that they want to mix things up, I think they also want to keep Zendaya safe – it’s really not that complicated. This scenario pretty much insulates the top 3 women from everyone else, regardless of who wins and assuming that Andy/Sean/Ingo all score as low as usual.
I DON’T think this is anything about Derek versus Val – Val has a very long way to go to get to where Derek is and, frankly, Derek just doesn’t roll that way. It would be hard for Val to fight that fight alone.
I hope so PH. I just have had one of those feelings this season. I really hope they don’t swing that way. It may be my paranoid sometimes snarky brain thinking they are trying to drum up some drama. When it comes to Derek and Val it seems like to me they are like polar opposites.
I’m trying to think of another time they tried to “manipulate” the situation and it blew up on them but my mind is drawing a blank.
Don’t get me wrong. I like this idea and want to see how it gets played out just for the sake of it. At the same time though it leaves me asking what are they up to?
I’ve been warry of TPTB for a few seasons but after the ball accidentally breaking open before Melissa picked her samba in the finale it has been on overload.
Or I just may be that I’m cranky and need a nap. Either way I really want to see how this gets played out.
Well Kellie or Zendaya shouldn’t be worried as they will be fine either way. Now, poor Andy is going to be the one screwed. Well I need to make sure I split my votes between Andy and Zendaya to help get bland ass Sean out!
I just don’t know… after some thought, the only reasons I can come up with are:
1. Bad drugs
2. Saving Zendaya (Great dancer, no voting fanbase?)
3. Bad drugs
4. Ensuring it’s either Andy/Ingo/Sean going home (protect the top 4)
5. Bad drugs
Regardless of the reasoning, this is CRAP-FREAKING-TASTIC. The only thing that would make it worse is to create a Twitter vote for the dance-offs. 😯 I wonder how many of TPTB have prescriptions for medical marijuana?? Wait, this just has to be crack. 😉
I guess all three of the lowest scoring guys have rumba this week, because Sean has it too – which means, the people who want the rumba the least are Zendaya and Aly, especially since, in addition to not having danced it yet, rumba can be awkward for the young ones.
I think TPTB have forgotten that they don’t have the all-stars this season, because it seems like they’re trying to pull the same kind of crap they did last season. Have they ever expected (except on the all-star season or for the finals/finale) the couples to learn 4 dances? It’s ridiculous! Even though they’re not going to dance all four, they still have to learn all four.
I would so like to go back to several seasons ago, when they didn’t pull all the shenanigans and by the finals, you had gotten to see the couples who were left dance every dance. I don’t mind the trios or the side-by-side stuff – that worked out. But the dance offs and immunity stuff and all that is just a bit much.
It’s definitely possible they want to keep Zendaya safe. All I meant was if that was their ONLY or main goal, they could just do a WTA again, or just a simple immunity and not bother with having everyone else dance off against each other.
I think this is largely another attempt to keep the show interesting to the vast majority of their audience.
This season more than any other, I’ve been chatting about DWTS with some ladies at work. They’re long-time viewers who say they “love” the show. Yet they have a hard time remembering the names of the various pros and celebs. They wouldn’t know a samba from a rumba or what made a good one vs. a bad one. They know that Zendaya and Kellie are better than Sean and Andy but they think they all “do good”. 🙄
If these ladies are at all representative of Ma and Pa America on their couches (and I feel they are), they just enjoy the glitz and glam of the show. They’ve loved all the themes and gimmicks. My guess is they’ll love these dance-offs.
That said, while I don’t see this as an overt attempt to get rid of Andy, I think TPTB would be pleased if it worked out that way. I think they believe they’ve gotten enough mileage out of his story, and he’s the biggest threat to keeping a much better dancer out of the finals. I think they’d prefer to avoid another Bristol/Brandy situation when they have 4 “legitimate” contenders in Zendaya, Kellie, Jacoby, and Aly.
Not going to troll. I hope I’m not. But, why a Derek VS Val situation. If Val isn’t quite there as a teacher. Why not a Derek VS Mark, or Derek VS Karina showdown. Pardon my bluntness. But, I think I’m getting a crush on how the Chmerkovskiy’s move when they dance. Especially Val. Don’t know if its because I’m so use to watching Derek, Mark, and Maks. Or if its because this season. We’re really actually getting to see Val really not have to hold back. His hidden talent. And yes Mods I know I gripe and complain and still voice my opinions. I do watch the AfterBuzz episodes and I feel like with Anna being on it. It’s helping me ease some of my concerns about the show.
@PH: Ooooooohhhh. I just put together the pieces.
@ Tracy
Derek Vs. Val was something I was talking with PH about a few weeks ago. Not saying they are pitting anyone against anyone. Just a vibe I got. My speculation and my speculation alone.
@ Tony Share man, share.
Thanks Heidi for all this. I am probably in the minority, but started this season liking Kellie and Jacoby. I have not changed my mind, except to add Andy to the mix. Zandaya may be the best dancer, but because of TPTB and what they have done this season I don’t enjoy it like I might if they had let all this stuff out of the mix and just let the people dance. The more dances you add to the mix I think you begin to see less quality of dancing. Pros can do it, but these are not pros. These celebs aren’t even All Stars.
I don’t like what they are doing if there main objective is to get rid of Andy. Let them dance and let the voters decide. What has been my favorite show is starting to make me feel why bother. If all they care about is attracting new viewers, and forgetting the loyal ones that have been with them since the start, I think they are making a big mistake. jmho
I just have to add you are breaking my heart by putting Sean higher than Jacoby on your list. 🙂 I know the judges have done that, but again, I so don’t agree with them. 🙁
@Tracy, there are a couple of things you need to do when you post.
FIRST, please separate your thoughts with some space, hit enter a couple of times.
SECOND, please use complete sentences, instead of the fragments you usually post with.
Just those 2 things will make your posts read easier.
This just sounds like a big old cluster**** to me.
I hate all this strategizing crap that the couples have to do. This isn’t Survivor! Yes, their is only one couple that can win the mirrorball but the heart of the show really has nothing to do with that.
It’s watching two people connect, work together, overcome difficulties and put it all out there on the dance floor every week.
It’s watching someone we thought we knew show us a new and heartfelt side to their personality.
It’s seeing a non-dancer fall in love with dance.
It’s watching ballroom dancers and choreographers we all love having the opportunity to show a vast viewing public what they can do.
Immunity on DWTS! I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!
I have thought about this, and have no idea what this is for. Its all too complicated to ensure a couple’s safety or elimination. This is truly stumping.
Tracy, spare us the martyrdom. We could easily block you and yet I haven’t – so clearly, you aren’t the huge deal you like to think you are. What you are is a good example of grammar, punctuation (or lack thereof) and spelling gone bad.
Gail, I only put Sean higher because he’s “family” and I expect them to over score him a bit while underscoring Jacoby. It is certainly NOT an indication of my feelings on the subject. 🙂
Susan #29, yes yes yes. That’s what I think of as the heart of the show too.
Am beginning to think TPTB have a death wish since they insist on production decisions that alienate millions of the viewers most naturally attracted to the show and constantly make choices that give the impression of unfairness.
TPTB doesn’t seem to know that most Americans – despite our political failings – have a thing about injustice … which is why feudalism and the Monarchy are less likely to flourish here than in their country. (at least I used to think that 🙂 ) Still we can usually be counted on to react badly to perceived unfairness.
And yet TPTB and their judges keep throwing it at us, as if according to their native sensibilities, it’s no biggie to look as if they’re giving unfair advantages to some contestants over others. I think the more rigged it all looks, the less viewers there will be. Why are the blind auditions so popular on the Voice? Because to us, they seem more FAIR.
I can see that it might be somewhat interesting to view next week as a sport to understand the degree and intent of TPTB’s manipulation here, how well that manipulation works, what unintended consequences result, and so on. But how much more enjoyable would it be to watch a DWTS that was on the up and up and true to its original concept!
Heidi thank you for that clarification regarding Sean and Jacoby. You brought such a big smile to my face. You are too cute!!! 🙂
Susan #29 I so agree and love what you said. Faby #34 so agree with you and you made such a good point by saying “I think the more rigged it all looks, the less viewers there will be. Why are the blind auditions so popular on the Voice? Because to us, they seem more FAIR.”
Speaking for myself who has watched from the beginning I am beginning to lose patience and wonder if I will be watching next year. I have watched “The Voice” since it started and after watching AI from the beginning I finally gave up on it this year.
@Cher: Assuming I’m interpreting what PH is saying about Zen not getting the votes correctly: The reason they might have put this immunity thing in place is to save Zendaya from elimination because she actually might not be getting the votes they want her to get. And since she’s their “ticket” to the younger audience, they can’t have that.
Did I get it right Heidi?
You got it, Tony. I go back and forth on Zenddaya almost constantly, to be honest. One minute I’m convinced her fans are totally twitter driven, the next minute I think they have to be voting in hoards. I have no clue. History says that youngsters don’t fare well with the people who do the voting on this show AND that Twitter activity has almost no bearing on the voting population. But who knows if this holds true in this situation.
@ Tony Gotcha. Thank you. 🙂
What are the chances that Sean gets Rumba for the dance off since he has rumba this week? Other than the obvious three in one.
There is one thing of which I am 100% sure. This crap has really screwed our office “football-styled DWTS pot”. We cashed out last week due to the fact nobody is faithfully watching this season LIVE and/or via DVR.
LOL. English wasn’t my favorite subject. It’s nice to know that I’m not the only one concerned about the show. Have a great day Mods.
I read your site regularly and I am definitely getting the impression that no one is happy about all the gimmicks and complicated scoring preambulations that have been going on for the last few seasons.
I doubt that anyone wants to see all this nonsense. I just wish that Danicng with the Stars would take a leaf (and I’m not suggesting that it is better BTW) from Strictly come dancing. The judges score, then the viewers vote and the bottom 2 do a “dance off”. The judges then pick the better of the two couples and eliminate the worse. Most importantly, they only judge the dance off dance so it’s all down to how they perform under pressure.
Now I’m pretty sure TPTB wouldn’t use is scenario because they thrive on the controversy generated when a front runner gets elimated unexpectedly, but personally I love when it’s a fair result and don’t enjoy all the politics that go hand in hand with this show.
Just my opinion, I’d be interested to know what others think. I watch DWTS for the dancing, the rest of this messing about just irritates me.
@ChaChaChooChoo – That’s so sad. After coming off last seasons All-Star Bust and then coming into this season of “Zendaya the Great” and the cast of fodder…. (Except for Kellie), your comment doesn’t surprise me at all.
About every two weeks I get together with my mature lady friends who are normally excited about the current season of DWTS… Well this season, most of them have lost interest and they have tuned into other shows. I will say, DWTS dropped the ball on this season, and have left the door WIDE OPEN for the Voice to move right in. The Voice is ah-mazing this season.
Once you lose track… You may never go back. Just sayin.
what I find so sad is that there even is a bid to get rid of Andy. i can only agree with PH and others up thread that he must either be getting tons of votes, or Zendaya is getting none. Or both.
While I would love to see him in the top 4, I admit it’s a long shot. That being said, his routines are more enjoyable by miles than what Sean brings to the floor. Why is there no bid to get rid of Sean LOL. yea, I know, he’s family. But it’s not unheard of to disown a member of your family.
Ingo, for me, is only a little better. Admittedly, his negative attitude at every turn makes me feel negatively about his every turn on the dance floor. So I may be judging his skills more harshly than justified. And, to me, Kym does not look happy at all. And if Kym’s not happy, something’s not right. I know how someone’s negative outlook can bring other people down with them. Just not a good pairing for me, and another couple I’d rather see go before Andy does. For legitimate reasons I feel – while Sean and Ingo may be better technically they can’t hold a candle to Andy’s performance level. Just my non-dancer opinion.
I blame Sabrina. Well, not her personally, but it was her SHOCKING elimination way back in season 5 that started all this manipulation crap, IMO. In order to prevent the voter’s from getting it SO wrong ever again, TPTB felt they needed to step in and guide our hands, since we obviously don’t know what the heck we’re doing.
Maybe they should do a Disney/Teen DWTS that airs after school. Use young just off the circuit pros. they could have hip-hop week, vampire week, tweet week. Just a thought.
I like Zendaya, just wish they wouldn’t spoil this for her.
If the theory that one of the top 4 isnt pulling the votes like TPTB want is right my thoughts are:
Jacoby:Probably a lot of votes
Aly: Same here, probably a lot of votes
Kellie / Zendaya : Hard to tell but IMO Zendaya get´s more votes than Kellie!
I think TPTB want Kellie in the final (and of course Zendaya and Jacoby too).
I wouldn’t be surprised if next season of DWTS will once again have a young, very popular, probably male contestant, with a ton of tweeting, twitter happy young’ins that will go crazy. You know the song “It’s Only Just Begun”….
Thinking about this more, I can’t believe Zendaya is so far down in voting as to need protection at this point in the season. On the other hand, I know the show seems obsessed at times, worrying that the show will take flak if top dancers go home before popular, mediocre dancers. Honestly, I don’t think anyone thinks this is a serious dance competition so I don’t think that is what makes them lose viewers, if that is their worry. Nevertheless maybe they do want Andy gone even if he is popular.
My gut is telling me Ally might be the one in danger and the reason for this. Even though I don’t think people would rise up in protest if she went home, maybe the show is afraid to lose her too soon and she is the reason for all of this. Ironic that Mark is hurt this week and the four dances might be killing them more than most. I still don’t understand why they needed three dances for this crazy dance off round.
I did reread the DWTS announcement and based on them listing the immunity/dance off under the Monday show, I think poor Derek might just be totally exhausted and be confused about this happening on Tuesday. I think it would look even more fixed to allow the judges to tack on three points to the chosen couples on Tuesday after all the public voting is done.
Zendaya’s fans are swearing up and down that this immunity dance nonsense is not being used to prop her and I’m like, yeah right. Yes, she’s the favored, precious Disney child, but are those young fans of hers actually voting or are they just doing the Twitter vote?
Then, you have some fans of hers who don’t want her to get the 30 because she will get immunity and they fear that will create some kind of backlash against her. Isn’t she already getting some backlash?
Anyway. I think Zendaya will be immune because I think she’s getting a 30. I’ll be shocked if she’s not the top scorer.
But still, this whole thing is stupid. It’s just more unnecessary garbage.
Younger fans can be tuning in and TPTB could be getting better ratings in that range, but they may not vote as strongly as die-hard dwts fans do. Therefore, she might not be getting the votes, hence, the immunity dance off to keep her on for the ratings. Does that make sense? I’m on cold medicine LOL!!
I have posted before but a couple of comments interested me.
Firstly and I hate to say this because I am a Kellie/Derek fan but they knew she had three shows this week so why would they also produce (?) this assinine week with learning four dances. I’m also wondering what Suzanne said and maybe they are trying to backdoor Kellie (now I sound like we are on Survivor)as she isn’t getting the votes – I know weird but in that way all family are safe.
I also used to watch the show with friends – now we all DVR and skip through some of it – I know pathetic – and we’ve all been watching since day one.
I also agree with lots of posters that Z gets the 30 and is immune-that script is written. I think we must all be on cold medicine, sheery to figure this one out. LOL
I think this is C Kane Gate Part II. They just didn’t wait untill the semi-finals to pull their crap.
After last season, I’m not surprised at all by producer manipulation on this show. This immunity dance is completely unnecessary and reminds me exactly of that Cha cha dance-off they did back in Season 12 to get rid of Ralph and ensure that Chelsea Kane got to the finals instead. I’m afraid that Andy will probably be the one to go home as a result of this.
As far as Zendaya goes, I think she’s such a great dancer and if the producers are trying to prop her up, they shouldn’t because she could win DWTS based on her talent alone. This whole Twitter thing has already created a lot of backlash for her and now with this immunity dance, I don’t think it’s going to help her at all. I don’t know if she’s not getting enough votes, but they’re obviously doing this immunity dance to help someone out. I wish the producers would stop meddling and just let the viewers decide the final results.
I think all this immunity stuff is ridiculous! I don’t think Zendaya is getting the votes, sure her fans are supporting her on twitter but are they calling and voting online?
Kellie has danced Cha-cha,jive and rumba…so a dance-off wouldn’t hurt her I don’t think. I’d like to see Andy stick around longer than Sean or Ingo.
I’m just getting tired of all this manipulation!
@KarenT Yeah, I’m wondering if this immunity dance is being done for the benefit of Aly. She is kind of getting lost in the shuffle and normally she would get the younger kids vote due to her age, but Zendaya apparently is their fave. I would not be surprised (Mark injured or not) that she ends up being the one saved.
I think Zendaya is getting the votes. Her fans also seem to think she has been getting unfair “hate” Motivating them. Her participation is unfair in many ways beyond ringer talk. She is also a ringer in Disney has her album ready to release soon. Coincides with her time on dwts? Imagine if Selena Gomez participated say in season 8 or 9. Her fans would vote. Zendaya is that equivalent. She is not Kyle or Roshon or Cheslea. Also Zendaya is coming off well with fan. I can see older fans seeing their granddaughter in her and what not. Though not sure how they would feel about her shirt saying ratchet though, Dwts folks keep saying how she will be a big star. Yup. Disney is making it happen.
I know most people are really afraid that Andy will be the one to be shown the door due to the immunity thing – well, I’m going to throw all my votes his way to do my part to be sure that that doesn’t happen. And I’ll hope that he does an awesome routine, gets a higher score than last week, and wins his dance off. Sigh – all unlikely, of course, but fingers crossed!
They’ve done it before, Karen. Hell, they do it every finale. But Derek could be confused. He seems pretty exhausted.
Fancy, Zendaya’s fans are, by and large, CHILDREN. I would taken nothing they say seriously.
But Kelly, both Derek and Kellie went into this expecting to learn MAYBE two dances this week. Of course, they knew they would be traveling when she signed on….but FOUR dances?? I don’t think so. Even having done them before, I don’t know how they’ll manage that. Four dances is RIDICULOUS.
As for who benefits – well, they have no financial stake in either Aly or Kellie, but maybe they do want the better dancers to stick around. But Zendaya is where their money is.
@fancy, I agree with PH they are mostly children though I have seen older fans liking her as well. That is why I think she does have the votes. Every season people say dwts has no investment in a celeb….except this season. Maybe you can argue Tony and Melissa being represented by Deena, but Zendaya is different. Disney did not have record deals with Chelsea or Kyle waiting in the wings. No denying her talent, but I even find Kristin on afterbuzz a bit ally IMO to no acknowledge her age, dance background and Disney’s investment in her as an advantage. It is not like being 16 with no show us training on the show.
I wonder if the voting is really inconsistent this season and the producers are putting in an immunity to see which way a certain couple’s voters will break. And I would not at all be surprised if Derek and Kellie got the first perfect score this season tomorrow night. Derek + Kellie + Samba equals perfect score to my gut, regardless of whatever weird crap the producers throw in.
I’m having an agonizing time each Monday after the show. I am a total Val/Zendaya cheerleader and want them to win, but I also love Sharna/Andy and want them to get to 4th or 5th place. I have been voting for Sharna/Andy each week but the one week I voted for Val/Zendaya instead was the week Sharna/Andy were in the bottom two. So at some point I will switch over from voting for Sharna/Andy to voting for Val/Zendaya, but it will still be a difficult choice to make.
@Biffette, I do NOT see a perfect score for Kellie and Derek… And they’re my favorites! At most, if they’re lucky, I see a 27. Most likely, I do see some 8’s for them…. First, they’re exhausted. Preparing 4 dances and traveling to 4 states in a few days, 3 concerts, finding time to practice while traveling on a bus….
Derek is the Pro most likely to have points deducted by Len, solely because he didn’t do enough of something Len likes, or too much of another samba move that isn’t Len’s favorite. I’ve seen him deduct points when he felt Derek’s choreography wasn’t tough enough… No, I can’t pinpoint that right now though.
And, with Derek saying in his TV Guide blog how exhausted they are, silly errors slip in. And in the past, minor errors by some pairs can be one point deductions, while the same errors can be two or three points on Derek’s pairs……
Hi Lori, I agree that sometimes Lenn judges Derek dances harder than he judges the dances of other pros. I could be wrong, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they had a perfect dance and/or got a perfect score (you and I both agree they are not the same thing lol.) Even with a busy week and other issues, Derek has always seemed to pull a lot of strength from adversity.
I should add if I am wrong I will come back and admit it to you! 😀
#44 Teen DWTS. Great idea.
Host: Mario Lopez–older but a former kid star
Hostess: Tori Spelling–same reason
Judges: Lilo could be CAI (takes one crazy to no one)
Elton John could be Len (aged Brit)
Adam Shankman could be Bruno
Now that would be a hot mess
@Lori You were right and I was wrong! Oh well.
Anyone else notice how Ally and Mark shouted out “ANDY” almost before they were asked? But when Zendaya and Val were asked Val said “Let’s pick on someone our own size, Jacoby and Karina” I thought that showed real class from Val. Then Mark has to add his 2 cents in later that he only picked Andy because Andy wanted to dance Cha Cha. Mark is so stupid he doesn’t know when to keep his mouth shut. This is not the first time he’s done this!
Deb, you’re the first person I saw that thought Val was classy by saying that. Many feel with one or two sentences he insulted Mark, Aly, Sean, Ingo, and Jacoby LOL.
@sheery I so agree with you. Not only did Val insult them, but Zandaya just happened to have her sneakers on. Jacoby and Karina could have picked the Rumba, but we all know that was off limits. IMO the whole thing was staged.
Yeah I didn’t get the sneakers thing. Obviously some are more privileged than others. I am starting to get the *superior* vibe off of Vendaya as well.
Hey, the C- doesn’t stand for Class….
@Sandy glad you mentioned the superior thing with Vendaya. Last night I thought it was just me, and now see others feel the same.
Staged? Really? Surely not. I can’t imagine the producers of a reality show manipulating the contestants, and trying to do it with the viewing, and voting audience. Just depends on the sheeple. Can’t control the beasties.
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