PureDWTS Season 21, Week 9 – People Magazine Claims Alexa PenaVega “Could Be Back”, & POLL
I waffled a bit on whether or not to post this, as I don’t really think it’s news – really and truly, it could just be someone from People creeping our comments section for material (it’s happened before with other outlets) – but I thought I’d share nonetheless, since this seems to be a developing story.
Per “an insider”, Alexa could be reinstated in light of Tamar’s withdrawal from the competition:
With Braxton’s spot in the season 21 final 5 now open, there is discussion among the show’s producers about bringing back PenaVega, 27, who was just eliminated on Monday.
“The producers are looking at all possibilities right now,” a DWTS insider tells PEOPLE. “There is a possibility that Alexa could be reinstated.”
The article goes on to mention that they’re not sure how it would work, given that the viewers weren’t able to vote for Alexa after Monday night’s show – basically, kinda what we’ve been talking about in the Tamar post. I don’t think Alexa returning is entirely out of the realm of possibility at this point, though – I think TPTB are probably flying by the seat of their pants right now, given that Tamar has kinda turned the show on its head this week, and are throwing out all kinds of ideas and trying to make them stick. Mark did post something very optimistic on Instagram a few hours ago, and out of the blue, Alexa was praising the crew for all of their hard work…has one of the producers possibly reached out to them already?
I guess the way I see it right now, there is nothing TPTB can do that is going to make everyone happy – bring Alexa back, people are going to complain that it’s not fair to those who did get the votes to stay; don’t bring Alexa back, people are going to argue that Tamar’s withdrawal was just a waste and there’s no reason not to bring Alexa back. I also don’t know if it’s in the cards to drop the finale down from 4 couples to 3, since they seemed like they were dead set on making it a huge extravaganza. I guess at this point, I’m in favor of reinstating Alexa, taking the points from last week (but not the votes), combining them with the scores and votes from this coming Monday night (and having the votes count for double), and then eliminating someone on Tuesday to determine the 4 couples that make the finale. Is it possible? Who knows. What do you guys think should be done?
Part of me just wants the remaining 4 to have no elimination and then have a normal one during the Monday of the finale, but the other part of me wants Alexa to come back, and it’d also be interesting to see what they do with the votes from this week for the other couples.
While I wish Tamar would withdrew on Monday, I don’t think it’s fair to bring Alexa back. It just doesn’t work that way, because she was the one with lowest combination of scores and votes, after all. Let’s just make a final with 3 celebrities like they did last season and that’s it.
They can’t have 5 couples for even the Monday of the finale, so if they bring back Alexa, someone has to be eliminated this week and I really don’t know what the best way to do that is. If they go with what I think you’re suggesting Court, then they would have to add a results show this coming Tuesday when they weren’t planning on having one. I picked other in the poll because I wasn’t wild about any of the suggested ideas, but maybe I should have pick the “my head is spinning” option because I don’t really have a better solution. 😛
I agree that Tamar should have just withdrawn Monday night. To me, bringing back Alexa would not be such a bad idea…!!!…
All I want is for my female power dou back together with the 2 best choregraphers on the show
I just love watching bindi and alexa interact and then mark and derek as well love there brotherly bond
FYI, the reason I said they can’t have 5 couples for the Monday of the finale is just timing. I think it would be way too rushed.
I’d love to see Alexa and Mark get a shot again since Tamar and Val are out, but I just don’t see any solution that makes me happy. I really would rather not see 5 couples do freestyles. When they bumped it up to 4 recently it seemed over the top and 5 just seems so much more so.
I voted that I would rather just have no elim this monday and then have 4 couples go into the finals, eliminate 1 on Monday night and have 3 couples going into the finale on Tuesday.
I just want the remaining 4 to go into the finale, which to me seems like the most plausible thing at this point. I wouldn’t be mad if Alexa came back, but something just seems off about it. Something still seems off about this week’s show. Heck, a lot of things still seem off about this week’s show. It just still doesn’t make sense how someone could make it back in LA traffic in the oh so dramatic nick of time and dance without any medical clearance. One of my coworkers had a PE and she could barely walk. I’m not doubting Tamar’s health problems, I’m just confused about all of it. With a huge show like DWTS it just doesn’t make sense how Tamar was even allowed to dance. When Alexa got eliminated, she said that this was they way she wanted to go out. Plus haven’t people said that Mark was injured? I mean I’m sure they would both want to come back, but it just all seems so weird. Can we just call this the season of weirdness?
And who cares if it’s fair. I hope i’m not going to far here, but what I can expect if Alexa comes back is for Nick or Bindi to fall victim to the most shocking elimination ever.
Yes, Alexa got screwed. I fully agree it sucks Tamar didn’t bow out Monday. But that said it’d be unfair to bring her back. We can’t have five couples going into the finale cause it’ll be too rushed. So it’s either add in a results show for Tuesday or leave things as they are. It’s best they let it be and let next week be a freebie.
I have to admit all of this is making my head spin a bit. And it seems like every way you slice it someone gets screwed in some way. In the end, I think they should just have the remaining 4 dance and not eliminate anyone because I do think it’s unfair to the remaining couples, and ultimately, I think deference should be given to them since they rightfully earned their spot.
However, I just hate how this whole situation went down. It was gratuitous drama on this week’s episod, and now we’re stuck in this giant cluster where somebody’s gonna get screwed. These past couple days have been a microcosm of everything that I don’t like about DWTS: over reliance on drama, judges having blatant agendas, producer decisions that are inconsistent, etc.
However all of that said, I’m going to own my bias here a bit. I am Team Alek all the way, so the scenario above definitely benefits Alek which makes me happy. But I think I would still feel this way if it didn’t benefit my favorite. It just seems like the most fair solution.
@sonic – Timing is an issue, but I think DWTS has shown us that they have absolutely no issues with feeling “rushed” in previous seasons :-)Hell, I would rather have more actual dancing during finale week, rather than all the talking about their “journey” and other extraneous stuff – I could deal with feeling rushed if it meant I wouldn’t have to watch the finalists awkwardly stand on stage with a video montage playing behind them while some singer we’ve never heard of sings some maudlin song to make us reflect on the beauty of their “journey” on the show.
I have no idea what can happen at this point, possibilities are really endless. It would be great to see Alexa back but I don’t know how it am work without half the fandom going ballistic.
Maybe they can work out a double elimination for week 11 on Monday night… But 5 freestyles? Impossible.
I picked bringing Alexa back and using just the scores from this week and the scores and votes from next week
If Tamar had withdrawn Alexa would not have been elim, so I don’t have a prob with them bringing her back. In the past when people have w/d there was no elim of the lowest scoring celeb.
The tough part is if they come back Alexa has to change her mindset and get ready to perform again.
In my opinion, the most reasonable way is to reduce the number of finalists to 3. They did it season 20 and kept Nastia from getting to the finale, I don’t see why not this season of all.
There wouldn’t be a huge whole of time they will need to fill since all the cast comes back to dance anyway, just Tamar’s performance time. Maybe we can get pro numbers or longer packages or dress rehearsal footage.
Having said that, I doubt this is what they’ll be going for. Watch them bring Alexa back just to eliminate her again in a double elim, now with her husband… Knowing how TPTB love to fabricate drama. I really hope this is not the case but it would nt surprise me… Ugh
Then I think they should also bring back Victor who was eliminated under the identical circumstances. He also danced and received his highest scores the night he was eliminated, and then Kim withdrew from the competition making the following week a non-elimination week. If it is fair for Victor’s elimination to be upheld, then it is also fair for Alexa to be eliminated. What is fair for one should be fair for all, otherwise why have rules at all?
@Court – Fair enough. This is my first season really watching (beyond youtube clips), but my understanding was that while the Tuesday of the finale is always full of filler crap, the Monday is mostly just dancing with only minimal filler (like any other Monday). If they can bring Alexa back in a way that’s relatively fair and have a not-too-rushed Monday, then I’m all for it.
For the sake of speculation, I checked ABC’s primetime schedule for this coming Tuesday – in order to fit in a results show, they would either have to preempt The Muppets & Fresh Off the Boat (8-9 PM slot) OR Agents of Shield (9-10 PM slot). And all of them are new episodes, of course – which makes it harder to justify pushing them, and on top of that, I think Fresh Off the Boat & Agents of Shield are pretty popular. They might actually have better luck bumping Wicked City, which is on from 10-11, and has had pretty dismal ratings thus far. But hey, if the higher-ups at the network OK it – anything could happen.
Just like some have said, I want Alexa to come back if they’re willing to add on a Tuesday show next week to keep it fair. Someone else is going to get the short end of the stick if they did a double elim on week 11 when that could’ve been avoided (no offense to Alexa). Otherwise, if they can’t fit that in, just let the 4 that are there now dance on Monday with no elim and no pressure and then someone will leave on week 11 leaving 3 left to compete in the finale.
**not-too-rushed Finale Monday
Now that i have thought about it, bringing Alexa back would not be a very bad idea at all. What I am more concerned with is who will be eliminated. I have a feeling that if this happens, either Bindi or Nick will go home, because Alek’s fan base is huge so there would be no way he will be eliminated. That’s my biggest concern…
I don’t think bringing Alexa back would be ideal. To me her story is wrapped. She went out on a high note. If they bring her back I feel like the show on Monday will be centered around that decision and all the drama. I prefer to cut the final down to 3 people. Eliminate someone Monday and just have a 3 person final.
The thing is, you’d think Alexa and Mark would already know if they were being brought back, because they would need time to prepare their dances, so it sucks in that regard if they’re hmmming and hawing over it.
Have they ever had an 11 week season with 3 couples? If they are going to have 3 couples they might as well change things and make this Tuesday the finale. Letting this week be a freebie since there is the correct number of finalists going into the finals and then eliminate the 4th place couple in week 11 is the most ideal situation for me.
@PJ – Alexa’s mindset is one of the things that has crossed my mind as well when thinking about the possibilities. I’m sure Alexa is still disappointed about her elimination, and now with all of this going on as well, I can imagine her head must be spinning a bit too. But, she seemed like she had gotten to a place of acceptance and pride in what she accomplished, especially with her dances Monday night. To come back, get back into the competition frame of mind, only to face another elimination is just emotionally draining to even think about. I would like to see Alexa dance again; from switch up week forward, I was really enjoying watching her. It would also be awesome to see more of what Mark would come up with.
At the moment, I seem to be going back and forth between no elimination next week and the 4 remaining couples going into the finals in week 11 or having an elimination next week and 3 couples going into the final. My vote goes to my head is spinning though – what a convoluted situation.
I’m not sure the Victor and Kim comparison is similar to this. They knew ahead of time the situation with Kim and that they had no choice but to eliminate her.
In Tamar’s case there was mass confusion during a live show about what the heck was going. She goes to the hospital right before the show starts and it seems she is going to miss the entire show and that there is going to be no elimination as Tom said during the live show. Than she suddenly appears right before the final dance and the show likely had no clue whether she was even cleared by her doctors or not. Or even worse on their part, they never asked and just whisked her out there. 24 hours later out you find out the truth and that you just eliminated 2 people for no reason. The show has 2 hours to fill next week and the finale this season was planned for 4 people.
I just hope it gets concluded fast so we can all move on either way. The show has really outdone itself this week and not in a good way.
@Tina – To answer your question about wether there has ever been an 11 week season with a 3 person finale, it’s happened once. Way back in Season 8 there was a random one-off 11 week season that seems to have been part of a few seasons of experimenting with the format a bit (things like numbers of weeks and contestants).
If you bring them back, it will open a door that is best kept by closed. “What about Kim?”. I know why they couldn’t bring back Kim, but that did not stop someone from starting a petition. Who knows what what other crop would shake loose from the crazy tree.
It’s done, the circumstances were unfortunate, and it was handled badly by all parties but it’s best to just move on.
@Andrea, agreed. They also have 2 hours to fill on Week 11 as well for the four couples (Just looked it up on TVGuide). Normally when there is a three couple finale, the competition night is only an hour long or an hour and a half long.. but this time it’s two hours hence the plan for 4 couples to perform.
The Tamar situation on Monday was a cluster f***. While I feel sympathy for her and wish her a quick (as possible) and full recovery, Tamar herself has been a cause of a lot of the confusion, from what we can see. But I’m not letting the DWTS producers off the hook either. Val, and even Sharna, should have been able to report how sick she was and combined with her irresponsible and controlling actions, I would have eliminated Tamar and not allowed her to dance without doctor’s clearance no matter what she said. And Tamar continued in her own selfish, unbending way when she made public her decision to withdraw. It didn’t look like she consulted the DWTS producers much or at all in advance.
But what’s done is done. First, I hope to hell that they have consulted Alexa and Mark before even floating the idea that they might return. IF this actually has come from DWTS officially. And if it isn’t true, or if they are just teasing possibilities for publicity, I hope someone is publicly castigated for making this crappy situation even muddier.
While I would have loved for Tamar to have withdrawn or been dropped on Monday, my preference now would be for an elimination as usual next Monday and a 3 person final. With Team Crikey winning! My gut says, DWTS is enjoying the continuing publicity and “buzz.” And that if they are indeed entertaining the idea of reinstating Alexa to the competition at this point, it’s only so that both of the PenaVegas will compete against one another in the finale.
One last thought – how long do you think it will be until we hear from Kim and/or Tony about how “unfair” her elimination was again?!!
Here’s my 2 cents:
If Alexa is not brought back, it presents a major problem: They have only 4 contestants left with the semi-finals and finals left to go. Obviously, if they eliminate another contestant next week, they’re left with only 3 for the finals. Here’s my issue: in the semi-finals and finals, you really begin to see who’s going to make the top 2 & who is probably going to win. With fewer contestants, this only going to become more amplified and obvious. The producers must be asking themselves if it’s going to be too boring, not enough drama etc. If they can get around the lawyer issue, I think it’s in their best interest to bring Alexa back.
If Alexa is bought back, I’m predicting that Alek will go next week followed by Carlos, Alexa will come 3rd, and it will be a Nick/Bindi finale (Bindi for the win!).
Of course, this is all just speculation :/
@Belle, I think leaving the four couples in the semi’s this week and bring them into the finals without eliminating someone.
Alexa was one of my favourites so I really have had to kind of remove my bias here & the fact that she did so well right before she got eliminated. In this show the votes mean everything I feel like that fifth spot was Tamar’s regardless.Alexa had the lowest votes so she got eliminated & it was ultimately Tamar’s choice to go forward or not. I’m no Tamar fan but when you get the votes & support I do think you do get to decide if you leave or not irrelevant of the last person who got eliminated. At this point I don’t think bringing Alexa back is the best thing to do & I’m actually not sure that it would be completely fair to the other contestants either. I think at this point they just need to go forward without an elimination next week & just go from their. I would like to see Alexa back but I just don’t think at this point it would be fair to the other contestants or Alexa considering if she did comeback she has already missed a few days rehearsal……..
The only reason I don’t see a couple being eliminated this week is even though we are 1 couple short in the semi’s, we have enough going into the finals. If there were 5, 1 would go home this Monday leaving four going into next Monday. I have also noticed the only time they allow 2 hours on Monday & Tuesday of the finale is 4 couples are performing that Monday. Whenever it was 3, there was only a 1 hour show.
this is just a fun thought don’t think they can really do it but bring Alexa back and combine her 60 from Monday with Tamar’s votes she got seeing as they’re going to waste anyway
Building on what Belle said, I think that if you bring Alexa back, by whatever means, you might as well go ahead and send Alek on his way. His stint has relied on votes. Giving the married couple a chance to be in the final together would give the show a chance to redeem itself from it’s cheap shot on Monday night. I think many viewers saw past the ugly ploy to pit that marrieds against each other, especially with the stealth cam. Since Alexa’s scores were so high, and now all of a sudden people want to see her stay, I think it would push Alek out. And not only that, what if the newly gained momentum for Alexa (and newfounded sympathy vote) bumped Bindi or Nick? There has been a complete momentum shift and it really only benefits Alexa.
I just can’t see how it would work to bring Alexa back from a votes point of view. She had the lowest number of votes and therefore was eliminated and you weren’t able to vote for her from the end of the show. Personally TPTB are openly going to make sure all options are open. No doubt they want as many viewers as possible on Monday night so I could see them dragging this on until Monday where they reveal that Alexa can’t come back due to the obvious problems it cause with votes. They should simply either not have an elimination on Monday or eliminate someone and have a three person finale. I’m not to bothered which as I’m not excited for either a Carlos or Alek freestyle and I think neither has a prayer of making the top two against Bindi and Nick. For me I see them as deadweight so whatever happens I’ll live with, although I still believe if Carlos is bottom on votes they won’t have an elim but if Alek is bottom then they will. That’s the exact kind of shady tactic TPTB would pull in order to get their preferred result.
@Whitney – If anyone gets “bumped” from Alexa coming back, I think the person most at risk might actually be Carlos, not Alek.
What I can see them possibly doing is bringing Alexa back and cancelling out all the votes from this week, then combining the scores from Weeks 9 and 10 to determine who will be eliminated on Monday. It gives TPTB the perfect way to manipulate things as they see fit. If this were to happen I feel like Alek would be sent packing leaving Bindi, Nick, and the PenaVegas in the finals.
But with the new lows they’ve been sinking to for the sake of drama, I wouldn’t be surprised if they brought Alexa and Mark back, had them perform their dances, and then “receive a message from the producers during the show” and announce that it’s against the rules for them to return after all and eliminate them again on Monday.
Wow…. i am soooo sick of Val. “Positivedwts” instagram has a post where Val is pretty much pist about people happy that Alexa is coming back. This f**king guy is an ass. If he was so concerned about Tamar he/ they shouldve dropped out long time ago
While I’d love to see Alexa come back, she’d be at a large disadvantage since she’s already missed precious rehearsal time (not to mention the voting dilemma already mentioned). I do feel that someone should be eliminated this Monday and have a 3 person finale like in the good ol’ days of the show, but I don’t see that happening.
They should do that, though, because they literally made last season’s finale a 3 person finale to make sure Nastia wasn’t in in (don’t get me started on that). If they go back to a 4 person finale, it’ll just be more proof that TPTB had some ridiculous problem with Nastia and would do whatever it took to get her out.
What if instead of officially allowing Alexa to compete this Monday, she and Mark are asked back to do a kind of showcase number (perhaps even the freestyle Mark was planning for her)? That would give an acknowledgement to the situation and allow her to shine while not messing with a convoluted vote counting. Ultimately won’t make it right for Alexa, but might be what Mark was excited about. However, I do realize that her story could be seen as complete and to bring her back under those conditions might not be productive.
Bringing Alexa back and eliminating the votes from Week 9 will do nothing but irritate fans of the other celebs who were up all night and day voting for their favorite couple. How is that fair. So none of the fans votes count for week 9 and the celebs and pros only danced for scores. Not right. Just let it go as Alexa had the lowest scores and votes for week 8 and was eliminated fair and square regardless of the Tamar drama. Yes it was a bad decision and all around mess up but she was going home regardless. They might want to check with all the pros and celebs to see how they feel about bringing Alexa back and having all their fans votes not counting . Just do not have an elimination on Monday and let everyone go into the finals. Not the best scenario but the least harming to the fans, celebs and pros. I think they are just opening up a can of worms with bringing Alexa back. I would feel the same regardless of who the person was that was eliminated in this scenario.
Carrie, I’m gonna advise you not to tell everyone to “just let it go”. Maybe chose your words a bit better next time – as passionate as YOU are about NOT bringing Alexa back, there are people just as passionate about bringing her back.
The three couple finales are usually because another show (Kinda like the Bachelorette) tends to want to air right after the DWTS finale, which is why they have to cut that show down to an hour and only 3 couples can perform them. In the fall, there is no other show starting after Thanksgiving and they often want the finale the week of Thanksgiving which extends it an extra week and they get to have a 2 hour finals which allows for 4 couples. While I do agree about the Nastia situation last season, Kristyn Burtt also tweeted to someone that they tend to do 3 couple finales in the spring and 4 in the fall.
@Courtney You could be right. After all, he did say he wished it was him… I guess I was just picturing tptb having the opportunity to put both marrieds in the finale after all. I do think Alexa proved herself the far more appealing PenaVega on Monday night. Odd note: Carlos has set his IG to private- you know so he can only share things with 825,000+ of his closest friends.
I feel like it’s going to be a non elimination week but if they do bring them back I highly expect a whole lot of hate from Tamar and Val’s fans if they do. Hate to say it but maybe from certain pros too (val and maks come to mind off the bat). Probably could cause more harm than good.
I really don’t think anyone know how sick Tamar was. In CAI parade article she said that she’s been battling bronchitis for 2 weeks. Derek has step throat. Do we automatically assume PE when people with a recent virus is having trouble breathing?
I don’t blaimVal for being pissed. I have seen some truly horrible things posted today. Really bad. He was responding to someone who said her prayers we answered because now maybe Alexa can combe back and he took offense seeing how seriously ill his partner is. Understandable.
@MP: I’m not surprised he would react that way. He started off this season so nice and normal but towards the middle went back to the Val that just wants to win more than life itself. Shame too becuase that coupled with tamar and her weird diva attitude (I can’t get past her Twitter reaction to the “I’m the best dancer here ” thing) just was unappealing. If I had to guess tptb really were hoping to get him and sharna into that finale at all costs (sharna disappointed me this week with what she said) and val can’t handle that plan falling apart.
TPTB should have looked into what was going on when Tamar came in at the last minute if she had been in the hospital. Liability if something happened to her during that dance would not have been good for the show. I can’t help but wonder if this was another person on the show that did this and Tamar and Val got eliminated, how would Val feel knowing they were eliminated for no good reason – Alexa is taking all of this in such an honorable way and so is Mark. In fact, I felt bad for Alexa and Mark on GMA when the questions kept revolving around Tamar and what had happened instead of highlighting all that Alexa had accomplished and making it about her. Sometimes TPTB should really think things through before they start all their little shenanigans and what to do for drama and ratings as it does sometimes backfire. I agree, also, Tony and Kim would not be happy if Alexa can return. Let’s face it, this is a grand mess and no matter how it turns out, someone is going to be upset or angry. I just hope Tamar will be okay and needs to just concern herself with her health.
This whole situation is a mess. Ideal situation would’ve been Tamar withdrawing when her doctors advised her against dancing. But this situation is not ideal . I wish Tamar all the best. He has a small child and critical health condition, so she needs to take care of herself.
I wish Alexa could’ve gone on with Tamar withdrawing. I love Alexa, but it’s not fair to the other competitors to throw out all the votes and scores from last week. And if they do count both weeks, Alexa might still get elimitated the following week as she will be missing votes from this week. Her journey ended on a high note, and she should be super proud of herself.
Now coming to Val, seriously I just wanted to put my hands over his mouth, and go shhhhh!!! On the internet you see so many different points of views and outragous comments, that doesn’t mean you insert yourself into every conversation. As a celeb he has a responsibility. To pick out one comment and respond directly he just created more drama. Now all his fans are attacking random Baega fans. What a mess!!! He really needs some lessons in dealing with social media. Learn to SHUT UP. As if things weren’t dramatic enough without him feeling the need to butt in.
I think bringing back an already eliminated contestant after another contestant withdrew from the competition is a huge mistake and unfair to the other contestants that re still in the competition. As far as Monday’s elimination I think there should be no elimination and the 3 remaining couples go to the finals and battle for Mirror Ball Trophy. That is my opinion.
I think they are not going to do an elimination this coming Monday. We don’t know where Tamar stood in the rankings but Alexa was next because Tamar was safe this week. They aren’t going to have three eliminations in one week,so I think on Monday they will announce that with 2 eliminations this week there won’t be one on Monday. Frankly, I don’t think Alexa would go back. And really she shouldn’t. Tamara scored higher than Alexa since she was safe so no matter what happened with Tamara, Alexa would have been eliminated.
The celebrities SHOULD be eliminated by the votes so who is getting the most audience votes, Nick, Carlos, Bindi, Alek. Tamar might have gone next. We don’t know. But we have often seen the best dancers go home early because of the lack of fanbase. But we don’t see the votes so we don’t know.
Unfortunately, I don’t think it’s in TPTB tiny little brains to not have an elimination on Monday. What? No drama? No suspense? JUST dancing? Are you INSANE?? Yeah, somehow I don’t see that happening as much as I would prefer it.
Wow, congratulations CH. You went from whining and crying about how Alexa’s elimination wasn’t “fair” to saying “who cares if it’s fair” in a couple short hours – now that it suits your purpose. That, my dear, is the very definition of hypocrisy.
And you’re dreaming if you think Alexa is going to come back and the result will be that either Nick or Bindi will be a shocking elimination. Hilarious.
No one is denying that Tamar has been ill for quite awhile, Jill – what I think most people are taking issue with is the fact that Tamar can talk about being “so sick” in one breath, then pull a stunt like leaving the ER against doctor’s recommendations to come do a dance so she doesn’t get disqualified. Hard to take someone seriously when actions aren’t aligning with words…
…and as for Val: was this one of HIS photos that the comment was on? Or was it just some random photo that he was jumping in on? If it was actually his, okay, he’s well within his rights to say something. But if he’s just making aggressive comments like that on other people’s photos? Dude, go walk it off – not his job to set everyone, everywhere straight. And I actually take issue with his wording, too – Tamar didn’t “almost die”; Tamar COULD have died. The former makes it sound like she went into cardiac arrest on the dance floor and was knocking on death’s door, and is hyperbole; the latter still highlights how dangerous her condition is, but makes it clear that Tamar dodged a bullet and is lucky to have caught her condition early. And he should be prepared for “horrible, really bad” things to be said about Tamar – she’s not blameless in all of this. Monday night felt like one huge, irresponsible stunt meant to draw attention to her; I don’t think anyone can blame Alexa’s fans for feeling like Tamar kinda dicked Alexa over. If they’re rejoicing in her being sick, that’s awful – but if they’re just saying “maybe now Alexa can come back!”, I don’t think that’s really any sort of insult towards Tamar; but knowing the standard that Val has set for what is considered acceptable social media behavior, I can imagine Val’s fans are taking everything personally and are on the attack. And THAT, Jill, is what I find horrible.
Alexa latest tweet I think confirms that she’s not coming back. And I think that is the best approach.
Where is this Val comment anyway? I was looking on the positivedwts instagram and I don’t see it. Was it deleted?
People like to SAY, SMR, that the “votes mean everything” when the reality is they only count for HALF. That’s it.
And no, the contestant absolutely should NOT have the only say in whether they stay or go from the show in these circumstances. If Tamar had died from this while dancing (and that IS a possibility) DTWS could be sued from here to eternity because they let her dance. IMO, they dodged a huge bullet. They need to wrest control of their show back and change their rules to protect themselves and the celebrities…and the pros for that matter.
They will NOT cancel out a whole bunch of perfectly good votes when nothing was wrong with the voting system. I would bet a large sum of money on it, so you can let that thought go right now. There is no quicker way to piss of the MAJORITY of your audience, seeing as how a majority didn’t vote for Alexa. There are four other couples who are still there legitimately. You can’t very obviously do something that would very much benefit one couple plus Alexa and possibly undermine everyone else. Not going to happen.
Which is why (along with Alexa’s post from within the last hour) I don’t think she’ll be back. I don’t see anyway that they can do that that is fair to the other four. It sucks for sure, and it was selfish or stubborn or whatever of Tamar – but the damage is done.
Julie a I went back to look for it too and it has been deleted now….
I went back to Tamar’s IG and she’s got 14K comments and Val has thousands as well and I’m not gonna scroll all that. MP saw it it first so maybe she remembers.
PH. We’ll just have to disagree on the #56 post as I see it complete different.
Preach, Heidi! You live, and learn, I guess. That was a good wakeup call for the producers in the future to say “hey! This contestant was in the hospital with something serious. We should stop them!” I keep thinking about all the scenarios that they could do, but I can’t come up with anything that is fair to all the remaining couples, especially since they earned their spot there because of votes while Alexa didn’t. Just like she said in her tweet, everything happens for a reason. Mark has a minor injury anyways so maybe it was a blessing in disguise.
Actually not true, Tina. I wouldn’t just believe what they say on Afterbuzz so readily. They’re human. I just looked and from Season 16 on they had 4 people in the finale every season except the last one. When the fourth would have been Nastia. Makes ya wonder. What does flip back and forth between spring and fall is the number of weeks – not the number of contestants in the finale. Fall is 11 weeks and spring is 10 weeks…although I think there was an 11 week spring season. Don’t remember which one.
I seem to recall that the four person finale is fairly recent so I checked. Seemed like the show was always 10 weeks with a 3 person finale for a very long time. From Seasons 9 through 15, it was a 10 week show with a 3 person finale. Season 8 had 11 weeks with a three person finale. Seasons 4 through 7 were also 10 weeks, with 3 people in the finale. Prior to Season 4 it was different. Season 3 had 10 weeks and 2 people.
Yes, Val being pissed is understandable. Don’t blame him at all, there are some sick fucks on social media…but why doesn’t he pitch a fit when HIS fans say disgusting, horrible things about Derek and his various partners (even Amy) all over social media. He clearly sees it, since he sees every little mention about him and his partners he doesn’t like. So…where’s his indignation then??
And yes, it’s actually far worse than what this girl said about her prayers being answered. I have to kinda roll my eyes when he obviously sees far worse things said about other pros and celebs on this show.
Great points, Ananya – he’s a GREAT instigator, sicking his fans on other fans. Idiotic.
I couldn’t find whatever picture and post they are talking about Val commenting on Instagram.
Ah, I should have just let Courtney respond to Jill. 🙂
I think you mean Courtney, Jill. And of course you do. :::rolls eyes::: Heaven forbid VAL be held accountable as much as everyone else.
# Julia Yes the post on Positivedwts was deleted. I wonder why ?!?! hmmm
I’m gonna venture a guess that they were bullied into taking it down by a certain pro and his fans.
To be honest, I still really like Alexa. I was a pre-existing Spy Kids fan and I thought she was good on the show. I loved several of her dances, especially her last two, and I wish she had stayed. The right outcome, as has been well trodden over here already, would have been for Tamar to leave when doctors suggested and let Alexa get through in that way, but now that Alexa’s been eliminated she shouldn’t come back. I don’t think that’s the right outcome for anyone, least of all her.
I kind of understand why Tamar did everything physically possible to stay, she got down to 6 and looked like she was on course for the final, and competitive drive can go absolutely crazy in that situation. Still, trying to put myself in that situation, I hope I would put my health first, and to be frank I hope my professional would too.
It’s on the fan account named Team Baega. From what I gather it was another fan who commented and I think she was young. She has since deleted her comment and IG. I’m totally speculating but what she said wasn’t anything against Tamar..just something along the lines that their prayers had been answered BC Alexa might be coming back. I couldn’t even see where Val bad been tagged in the post so I’m not sure how he found it.
For those wondering about the IG post Val responded to, the girl commented “God answered our prayers #teambaega” to which Val responded, “God heard your prayers ?!! **insert girls username** my partner nearly died, and your prayers of ‘your fave’ coming back were answered?! You need to reconsider your wording little girl”. This is word for word from both parties, I’m staring at a screenshot on Twitter. Now while the girl’s comment wasn’t the most tasteful given the context of the post & situation, she said nothing negative about Val or Tamar. I enjoyed Tamar, I’m sad that she’s out, and I wish her a quick recovery, but in my opinion (don’t shoot me) I feel Val is milking this. He’s got thousands of comments on his post telling him what a good person and partner he is blah blah. Jenna posted a similar poor Tamar post because she apparently thinks she’s the third member of Team Valentay. Sure val’s being nice to Tamar now but you can’t tell me things haven’t been tense between them all season. The vibe has been off. So of all the horrible things his fans have said about certain past partners on his posts, it’s funny to me what he cherry picks as being “hateful”. He just needs something to rant about. Yet he turns a blind eye to his fam (JT and some of the other New Yorkers) calling Nastia white bread, Hayes unsuccessful, Carlos a crybaby, Derek’s team dance boring, bindi a nobody who he has to google… I mean come on. Drama drama drama with that one and the company he keeps always *eye roll*
Completely agree Shana. It’s ok for Fam associates to make distasteful comments, but god forbid some random people makes a comment against them.
I guess I should also add that I’m on the side of not thinking it’s a good idea to bring Alexa back. She’s only likely to get eliminated again. Her husband carries most of “their” fans & seems to understand how to work the show, alek has got a solid following of his own, and Nick and bindi are definitely not losing to her. Plus think of all the unnecessary hate she’ll get if TPTB change the rules for her. Either way TPTB got what they wanted from Carlos in a dramatic husband vs wife elimination so i don’t see what else they could use her for unless they’re that short on rehearsal footage for longer packages and pros for bumpers (which they’re not, with Val/Mark available now and Peta supposedly back). Maybe Mark’s giddy post was about Alexander Jean’s song doing so well on the music charts overnight?
Shana where’s the screenshot?
His little sycophants report everything they think he should read. He reads, responds to every slight, and then his fans and attack like rabid dogs in a way far worse than the original comment. The hypocrisy runs rampant.
Sorry I meant Courtney, not PH. All I said it was understandable he was pissed at the remark someone left. That was it.
I did not say Tamar was blameless, did not say anything about about the fact Alexa’s fans shouldn’t feel like she got the shaft, or that he should not have be accountable for his actions.
Not sure how my one sentence about being pissed off at that one remark translated into all that…..
Wow, so one of Val’s friends said that Bindi is “a nobody who he has to google?” Haha. Well, I for one knew who Bindi was before coming onto the show, but did not know who Tamar was and had to google who SHE was.
Man, Val and his friends need to grow up. They need to just worry about themselves and stop talking sh*t about other couples. It just reeks of bad sportsmanship (IMO).
Maybe now that Val is free and Peta is back, they could do a Tour promotion number (with Val, Keo, Artem, Alan and Peta, Emma, Brittany and Jenna) to compensate for the missing two dances next week…
I would love to see Alexa back but having read everyone’s explanations of the voting gymnastics it would take to make it fair for everyone, it doesn’t seem worth it for anyone involved. Plus, if by some miracle she won, fans of others would claim it was a tainted win based on unfair criteria. I mean, jeezalou, how many times does a certain pro legitimately win and we hear all sort of hateful claims trying to take his win down. Oh, to live in Chmerkovskiy Land, where insecurity rules, everything is viewed as an attack on machismo, speaking the truth is a smokescreen for bad sportmanship and no mouth is free of a foot.
Alexa dancing was nice but she didn’t pull in the votes. IMO, that was the result of the night and it should stand. Since this show started, their have been celebrity’s that should have been gone by the second or third week, but with the voting, some have went further even to the finals, example B. Palin. If the show wants to bring Alexa back they can, but again IMO, their just opening a can of worms!
Absolutely wouldn’t be fair to bring her back, ignore all the votes that the other 4 contestants received on Monday, and then giving her a free pass to the finale. If eliminations were on Tuesdays, she would have gone home a week ago for her week 8 performances. Tamar managed to earn her place in the top 5 so let’s not bump her back down to 6th place.
If they wanna throw her a bone, they can just have Alexa perform a dance on Monday, but she won’t be scored, she won’t move on to the finale, and there will be no eliminations.
Yes I agree, there is just no fair way to bring Alexa back into the competition round. I’m sure a lot of people voted for Tamar and the others on Monday so it wouldn’t be fair if their votes don’t count.
But I think they could have her and Mark perfom on Monday to a live musical guest like they did that one time with Sabrina and Mark dancing to Avril Lavigne performing “Complicated”. I guess there are a couple of musicians they could get on short notice, like Chaka Khan or R5 or BC Jean or maybe even Tony Braxton. Wouldn’t that be a interesting ending to the whole saga/drama – have Alexa and Mark dance to a live performance by Tony Braxton…
I love Alexa but I’d rather them just have the four couples we have left go straight to the finals OR have a three person finale. Bringing back Alexa would just overcomplicate things and this season has been a lot to take already and it’s made my head spin way too many times.
That being said, Alexa’s Tweet last night (“i wish this journey could go on. but everything happens for a reason”) made me think that maybe she won’t be returning. Gave me an impression that maybe they tried to get her back but weren’t successful at doing so.
When Val learns the meaning of the word hypocrisy and reflects that he may need to apply it to his own words and social media, then I’ll respect him. Otherwise he’s going to continue to be a thin skinned, irresponsible jackass in my eyes.
Almost every single poster on PureDWTS is wishing a speedy and complete recovery for Tamar. That doesn’t mean some of us can’t express our dis-pleasure of how the whole thing went down, including Tamar’s own contribution to it. If Val is too dense to see the difference, then that’s on him.
I did vote to bring Alexa and Mark back to the competition. I will admit that I have no idea how this can be done.
Maybe they would do what they did in British X factor a few years back- introduce a “wild card”. If I remember correctly, the audience then got to vote for whichever previously eliminated contestant they wanted to return to the competition. This would make it a fairer ground for someone’s return, and would probably work in Alexa’s favour, what with her performance being so fresh in people’s minds. Honestly, I don’t think this whole thing would even be a debate if her last performance hadn’t been so fantastic. Then they would have simply carried on with the remaining couples. If the audience had voted for that last dance, I really think she would still be in. I wish her husband would be eliminated, I can’t stand him! I really like Bindi and Alek, and with Nick and POSSIBLY Alexa, I would enjoy that final.
I voted for “They shouldn’t do anything different – nobody gets eliminated on Monday, and the 4 remaining couples go to the finals in week 11” however if Alexa were to come back I’m of the mindset that the person it would end up hurting would be Carlos. I truly think that Alek will have 2 of his strongest dances of the season (for him) next week & it will launch him into the finale. If Alexa also came back I could see it truly riling up ALL her supporters/voters and the person who could be easily overlooked would be Carlos. So I guess in the end, I’d be okay w/ her coming back as well just to see Carlos be the one to exit before her. I don’t envy TPTB b/c I do see all sides of the argument.
The social media shenanigans with the pros, especially this season, have been too much for me. Witney and Sharna are starting to get a bit cocky, Mark has been engaging people who post rude comments thus adding fuel to the fire, and of course there’s all the crap that has happened with Val, but with us earlier in the season and that post yesterday. I did a whole post on my tumblr about it but these people need to rise above. It’s immature and unprofessional to do otherwise. I think the one who is best at it as of right now is Emma but a lot of the others just continue to make me facepalm.
As much as I wish Alexa was still on the show, I think TPTB would be shooting themselves in the foot if they bring her back. Once you open that Pandora’s box, you’ll never get it shut again.
I’m pretty much checked out of this season (and maybe even DWTS if Derek leaves) so I’m not too bothered by whatever TPTB decide to do. However, I think they should have a normal elimination in the semi-finals and send 3 to the finale. That gives them the drama of an elimination and maintains historical precedent.
My heart hurts for Vogue. So sorry about your Dad. I could tell in your comments just how close the two of you were.
I do think Alexa should have a chance to dance Monday. Someone did leave the show so why not let this play out like it should?
As much as I would love to see Alexa and Mark return to the dance floor, I agree with some comments posted that “what’s done is done”. I would hate for her to return to only be eliminated again. Who knows why she didn’t get the votes from week 8? Maybe people saw that she won 76% of the votes in the dance-off and thought she had the backing, or they just didn’t vote for her because they had enough of the “married couple” issue.
Let this be a lesson to the producers to tighten up their rules and be more aware of someone leaving the studio to go to the ER and then return to dance without medical approval. They opened themselves up to a major lawsuit and maybe cancelation of this show by the network because of their stupidity. We are not watching this show for the drama, we can see drama all over the TV. The constant supporters of this show watch it for the pure entertainment, dancing, choreography that has made this show so successful.
TPTB please don’t ruin this show because of “drama”!
@Julia – Couldn’t agree more – the social media activities of the pros this season have set the bar for what is considered acceptable interaction amongst the fans…which means that if they see their favorite pro doing it, they think it’s totally ok. So now we have fans who think it is their god-given right as a human being to shame and bully opinions they do not agree with into silence, even if it’s just some fan on Twitter talking to their followers, and not even bothering anyone else. They actively SEEK OUT opposing opinions, and proceed to harass them – that is NOT how it’s been in the past. The rival fanbases may not have interacted much in the past, but at least they weren’t actively antagonizing each other. As I said on Twitter last night – it is actually possible to let opposing opinions exist on social media, without feeling like it’s your job to silence them. I don’t go looking for every Val fan on Twitter, and proceed to tell them all the reasons why I think he’s a sociopath – so why is it so hard for them to extend the same courtesy to Alexa fans who dare be optimistic about her return?
Emma & Derek have had the right idea with social media – they only tweet the positive, and don’t engage the negative. And for the most part, I think their fans tend to emulate that behavior.
I actually feel terrible for the poor girl that Val went nuclear on on Instagram yesterday – apparently she was young, and was so upset that she deleted her entire Instagram account just to escape the hate she was getting. Wow, what a respectable man he is! Publicly shaming a young girl (who wasn’t even saying anything about Tamar) and by inaction, encouraging his fans to do the same. I wish I knew her Twitter account, I’d tell her to keep her chin up – I’ve been there.
This is also a reason why I can’t wait for Sasha to be a pro again (assuming he will be) because he is similar to Emma in that regard. Like you said, Derek is good too, as are certain others, he’s just less active (which is not necessarily a bad thing).
What I find interesting about the social media aspect, is that the fans that “scream the loudest” oftentimes don’t appear to be voting the loudest. I’m still seeing posts to bring back Hayes. And I’m also seeing that some of his fans don’t even realize he’s been eliminated. It’s mind blowing that people can get so fired up and nasty and yet have no clue what’s happening.
The people with the quieter fan bases seem to be making more headway in the competition. Which only echoes what y’all (the mods) have been saying all along, the social media following is extremely misleading in terms of votes.
Emma, Sasha and Derek are the only ones who don’t need serious PR help when it comes to social media. What Val does is just idiotic. Mark is flawed, but at least he balances it out with positive stuff as well. Val – everything he posts sounds arrogant.
@Whitney – EXACTLY. And I think Heidi had warned people about that from the start – that, just because Hayes has a TON of Twitter followers, does not automatically mean he’s getting a TON of votes. From what I saw, his fans seemed to skew younger, and within the context of DWTS, they were what I like to call “low information voters” – didn’t always know HOW to vote, very impressionable, not always terribly committed or focused. And what made it worse is that Hayes seemed to place a lot more emphasis on the importance of trending #VoteForTeamSlayes than he did actually voting – and when you’re a 12-year-old girl whose idol is promising to follow you if you RT #VoteForTeamSlayes, actually voting is probably the furthest thing from your mind. So while all of them were screeching about voting for Hayes – very few of them were actually voting. 🙂 So I tend to agree with the notion that those fanbases that are quieter, are usually quieter because they’re too busy voting – and they’ve got nothing to prove.
And again, we’ve observed over the years that the fans of certain pros tend to glom onto them because they share certain personality traits, and they also tend to emulate their behavior. So since Derek is pretty hands off, quiet, and copacetic on social media, his fans (for the most part) tend to keep to themselves and not rock the boat. But some of the more outspoken pros…tend to have more outspoken fans. And just because they’re outspoken, doesn’t necessarily mean they’re the biggest group.
Wow, I had no idea that girl was so upset my Val’s misplaced tirade. I hope she’s okay.
I don’t understand why some people waste time arguing with others on social media about differing opinions. Life is short people! The world has enough negativity in it. If you can’t speak your peace respectfully than shut up, take a deep breath and walk away.
#86 Susan2 Agree totally.
Being so disenchanted with all TPTB manipulations, I had a terrible thought. The sleeze squad will do anything for buzz! What if it was really Tamar who was going to be eliminated on Monday? Did TPTB think it would make a better drama that she raced back to perform and is safe? Or if she raced back to perform and then was eliminated? Did they go for the better agenda in their sick eyes? They always think they can get away with their “invisible puppet strings”. They forget the long time viewer knows the difference from the original beautiful ballroom show to this lame scripted reality.
While I feel Tamar was irresponsible for putting her health at jeopardy, I think the full blame is on the producers. When anyone has an injury on the show, they need to have medical clearance to dance. So, where was the legal department checking to see if the doctors in the ER gave her clearance to dance? From what I read, she checked herself out without the doctors OK. Why didn’t TPTB ask for any proof that she could return to the floor? Did someone “drop the ball” in favor of their idea of “good TV”?
I’ve always thought, TPTB don’t care about the negative remarks about the show, because any buzz is good buzz in their eyes. TPTB are a twisted lot. They all need to go!
Completely agree Court 93.
It’s terrible that Val had to yell at anyone, let alone a poor young fan. He and Tamar are adults, they should be able to handle some criticism or some negative or misplaced remarks here and there. The fact that he can’t and then also encourages bad behavior of his fans because the support makes him feel good, is just…..so unattractive. I know to each his own, but I can’t see how that kind of personality is appealing to anyone….except for people who are exactly the same.
Maybe someone who knows more of the inner workings of the show can explain to me better… But when Kim was recovering I remember hearing something along the lines of the show’s lawyers not allowing her to fly for the sake of the show because her doctor said no. Theoretically, she still could’ve gotten on the plane anyway but wouldn’t have been allowed to compete, right? (Maybe I misunderstood). But if so, in that case how would the show’s lawyers (who understandably would be worried about saving their own asses if something went wrong) allow Tamar to dance on the show if she left the hospital against medical advice? Doesn’t something not add up in that scenario? If you go to the hospital you don’t need doctor’s clearance to compete? I can’t imagine Val or Tamar have enough pull to trump the lawyers… And what’s scary is isn’t that the same diagnosis Tamar’s husband had during her package a few weeks ago? Also to Jill, the screenshot was posted by a DWTS fan account but i don’t remember the username specifically.. I promise what I typed was word for word from the screenshot of IG 🙂 it was posted because the fan thought Val’s reaction was crazy for such a mild comment, knowing full well his & Tamar’s lunatic fans would gang up on the poor girl once they saw his response. He followed suit on Twitter with a rant along the lines of how people spewing hate on his posts about him or Tamar would pay for it one day. Ironic considering if anyone’s due to have Karma catch up to them it’s him. Ps if anyone’s ever looking for a reason to bang their heads against a wall, it’s Val’s friend JT Simon who does most of the shit talking (his other goons like Alex help of course) but you can search his Twitter page for a good laugh. He called Hayes the most unsuccessful star of the show in response to one of Hayes’ fans and TAGGED the poor kid in it the night he got eliminated. When he said he had to google Bindi he had to backtrack and admit he also had to google their precious Rumer. LOL.
Ooops shoot I mean to address Julia about the whereabouts of the screenshot, not Jill! So sorry! And also a Mark and Derek trio?! wahooooooo!
Yep, I saw the comments too on Val’s post (I saw his actual Instagram) and he basically was reading the comments (he always does….he picks and chooses what to respond to and what to ignore & responds a lot even when not tagged) & set that girl up to get attacked. She didn’t tag him or Tamar but it was a comment on his picture of them in the hospital. I mean it was a stupid thing to say considering it would obviously be taken out of context by his creepy obsessed fans but no Val, Tamar didn’t “nearly die.” Let’s not act like the girl said “I’m so happy Tamar has blood clots in her lungs! Now Alexa can dance!”. Like come on. And it was one comment out of like 1500 positive ones he chose to address. He’s just being the same typical hypocritical attention seeking drama queen he always is. Same shit different day.
I ended up finding the post last night but thank you so much Shana! Now he apparently said he might go on break after the tour because this season has been sooooo hard on him. I guess to sell more tour tickets? Or to just keep the fans’ focus on him? The drama is over, Val. Your partner had to withdraw. Move on and let others have a chance in the spotlight.
And yes it IS the same diagnosis discussed in her MMY package. Her sister had it too. I’d have thought she’d be able to recognize the warning signs by now but I guess not. Or maybe it was a slightly different situation.
Shana — Someone might have more information, but I’ll give it a go. Kim’s doctors wouldn’t let her fly, therefore she couldn’t be in the studio, therefore she couldn’t compete. And yes, she could have gotten on a plane, but without the doctor’s clearance she wouldn’t be allowed to compete. If you’re thinking that with this as a model that Tamar shouldn’t have been allowed to dance, you’d be correct. There is no doubt that Tamar was sick, but instead of dealing with it in any kind of straightforward manner she just skipped out, and from that moment was running the show. I imagine getting any information about what was going on with her was very difficult. I have no confidence about where she went, what she was told. I hope she comes to realize how profoundly stupid it was for her to return to the show and perform. And abc dodged a big one.
Shana, no. The show didn’t prevent her from flying, her doctors did. The show only said that since she couldn’t make it to the studio, she was disqualified. I suspect that the airline wouldn’t let her fly if they knew the potential issues.
I think the stuff with Tamar was more a timing issue than anything. We’re talking about the span of 2 or 3 hours where Tamar went to the hospital, left, got back to the studio and then dance…Lawyers calling doctors, etc – all that crap takes time. I also suspect there is some white out in the rule book and the rules about competing while sick have been changed.
As for Val’s behavior (and that of his friends) on twitter and instagram…well, you can’t fix stupid.
Because I thought Tamar should’ve withdrawn on Monday–and posted such on Val’s Insta pic of him & Tamar…I was told that I was fat, ugly, stupid and they hope I die or get Cancer again. I had listed that I’m a cancer survivor in my Insta profile but have since taken it out. Val’s fans are MEAN! and I mean UGLY-MEAN. If he promotes that…and obviously, he does, then he’s an even bigger a$$hole than I thought he was. Derek NEVER engages fans on Social Media and he’s smart for ignoring the ignorant nay-sayers. I’ve since unfollowed DWTS Insta acct & DWTS FB page as well. SO many people with keyboard bravado!
For any of the moderators please may I get your thoughts
As a result of the dances on 11/9 we have 60 possible points, with Bindi at a 5 point advantage. If they eliminate someone on the 11/16 show it would have the usual voting rules and the next elimination (3 people) would start at zero.
If they do NOT eliminate anyone then the couples will have a possible 63 points assuming 2 regular dances and 3 judges and the 3 point dance off.
My questions is what will happen to votes on 9/11 if there is no elimination. If they are not used Bindi loses a rather large advantage.
It possible that we could have an elimination based on 123 points without counting any dances done on week 11 Monday’s show.
Anyone choice to guess how next elimination will be determined?
sorry that was 11/9 not 9/11 My European thinking on date format
Stoli, if there is no elimination on the 16th, this upcoming Monday.. what they always do is they combine the votes and scores from 11/9 + the votes and scores from 11/16 to eliminate the couple in 4th place on Monday 11/23. Once that 4th place couple is eliminated, the scores from that Monday night and votes are what factors into Tuesday 11/24 to determine the winner.