Dancing with the Stars Season 22, Week 1 – Who’s Dancing What…and When?
And here we are again. DWTS seems to have a very strong cast this season – I look forward to seeing if that holds up during the dancing. 🙂 The couples below are in alphabetical order by last name. The phone numbers were apparently handed out in alphabetical order by FIRST name…cuz consistency is boring. 🙂
We will update with the dance order and any other info IF and when we get it.
ETA: Here’s a message from Bindi Irwin to the new cast – this girl is so wonderful. More video and pics, below.
ETA 2: Kim and Sasha are dancing first – must be a pretty good dance!! I’ve also arranged the couples in my guess at dance order, beyond those we know for sure.
Kim & Sasha – cha cha (Song: Sax – Fleur East)
Dancing 1st
Phone # 1-800-868-3406
Paige & Mark – fox trot (Song: Ain’t Got Far To Go – Jess Glynne)
Dancing 2nd
Phone # 1-800-868-3410
Mischa & Artem – tango (Song: In the Night – The Weeknd)
Phone # 1-800-868-3408
Geraldo & Edyta – cha cha (Song: Treasure – Bruno Mars)
Phone # – 1-800-868-3403
Doug & Karina – fox trot (Song: Sweet Caroline (Good Times Never Seemed So Good) – Neil Diamond)
Phone # 1-800-868-3402
Marla & Tony – quickstep (Song: Sparkling Diamonds – Nicole Kidman, Jim Broadbent & Lara Mulcahy)
Phone # 1-800-868-3407
Wanya & Lindsay – cha cha (Song: Motownphilly – Boyz II Men)
Phone # 1-800-868-3412
Nyle & Peta – cha cha (Song:Cake by the Ocean – DNCE by DNCE)
Phone # 1-800-868-3409
Jodie & Keo – tango (Song: Confident – Demi Lovato)
Phone # – 1-800-868-3405
Antonio & Sharna – quickstep (Song: Bad Man (feat. Robin Thicke, Joe Perry & Travis Barker) – Pitbull)
Phone # 1-800-868-3401
Ginger & Val – jive (Song: Move – Beyoncé Knowles, Anika Noni Rose & Jennifer Hudson)
Phone # – 1-800-868-3404
Von & Witney – fox trot (Song: My House – Flo Rida)
Dancing 12th
Phone # 1-800-868-3411
LOL Heidi!!! I love it! Here’s to Monday night.
Love that they’re expanding the first weeks dances this season (from the usual cha-cha/foxtrot/jive). It’ll be interesting to see Mischa & Artem’s tango – I wasn’t sure how she would do with an overly ‘happy’ first dance. I think the tango will suit her personality 🙂
I’m super exited for this season! Do you think that the couples will dance in order of phone numbers or not? I saw some discussion about that on another thread but I don’t think anything was confirmed.
Some great tracks. In week 1 with 12 couples doing 5 dances there is no reason why any couple should get a unique dance. Seems like a small advantage, but it definitely is one, especially if she does as well as expected. On any other couple, I’d be suspicious. On Val, I’m annoyed. I try to avoid prejudicial judgments of the season, especially if I’m expecting to be annoyed, but seriously? It could be a very long season if they keep trying to make Val the new Derek without the real Derek there to show him up a bit.
I actually like most of these songs and think they fit the style and/or celebrity well.
They used to always dance in the order of the phone numbers, but they haven’t done that in quite a while now.
On another note: I really doubt they will make Val “the new Derek” unless we are talking fan base. Val’s dancing and personality on the best of days is simply different than Derek’s. Love it or hate it Val’s “I’m too sexy for my shirt and that’s why I don’t wear one.” attitude is why they hired him. He stepped into Mak’s role.
Will they keep Val? Of course they will! Val pulls in fans and ratings.
He sells plenty of tour tickets. However, Mark Sasha, and Kiril Kulish will probably be the ones stepping into Derek’s role. They have similar personalities and dance styles and appeal to a different group of fans.
As much as we love the dancing Let’s face it RATINGS are the name of the game.
I think you overstate Val’s draw, actually. Tour tickets? They didn’t do nearly as well this last tour, as far as I could see, and they were in theaters often half the size of the ones Derek and Julianne were in. Val has a very long way to go to catch up to Derek in any regard. And I doubt he ever will.
The ratings for the show have never been affected by a competing pro, judging by the graphs I did of them. Not when Maks left, not when Derek sat out Season 12, and probably not this season. As much as the online fans obsess over the pros, the general viewer does not. Despite Derek’s absence being covered ad nauseum in the press, I STILL see people on twitter going, “Where’s Derek? I won’t watch without Derek!” And yet, they aren’t big enough fans to have realized weeks ago that he wasn’t coming back. Hence the word “casual”. Not only are they casual, they are the MAJORITY.
Val has been super lucky to have been given young celebrities with large fan bases. That’s IMO how he has gained most of his following. That’s not to say Val isn’t a fine dancer, but most of that crew are. I’d say the same about Sharna, Peta, and more recently Emma even if she got screwed this season, as I’m guessing the Bachelor backed out. They’ve been handed popular SM celebrities, which is how their fan bases grow.
And, as with all young fanbases, they are fickle. Will they stick around when their idol (the celebrity, not the pro) moves on to someone else?
Yippee! It’s almost DWTS Premiere night. Can’t wait to see which couples who look good on paper actually look good on the dance floor and which ones don’t. I’m also hoping for at least one pleasant surprise.
Rose, I don’t think Sharna has really had any young celebrities with large fanbases who have boosted her own fanbase on social media anyway. Certainly not like Zendaya did with Val and Emma with Hayes. Don’t forget about Allison as well. Getting Riker has absolutely skyrocketed her social media following. This time last year she had about 70-80k twitter followers, she now has over 150k.
Now Val’s got his precious mirrorball and established his fanbase through many different factors (young partners with rabid followings, Maks leaving, tour etc) it now makes sense for TPTB to give him a nice cushy ABC family member who slots perfectly in within the demographic and will keep him in the competition for a long time.
I’ll definitely be looking to Mark and Sasha to provide us with interesting and creative choreography, but I wouldn’t put Kiril Kulish in that group yet. First, he’s just a Troupe member which will severely limit his opportunities to wow us with his creativity. Second, in the DWTS pictures I’ve seen of him, he seems to have his shirt open all the time. So he might be just another conceited “I’m too sexy for my shirt” type.
That’s true. I’m remembering the hard time Sasha got in the Cheesecake Awards as a troupe member and look at him now…
Call me cynical, but I do think that the Ginger/Val pairing was strategic on the part of TPTB! IMO, this is about making Val look good (and if he wins another MBT along the way, great). Ginger is part of the ABC family so she will in all likelihood do what the bosses tell her to do. She seems sweet with nothing negative attached to her; she’s happily married, so no showmance. And the icing on the cake? A new baby! My bet is we see that baby weekly along with sweet “Uncle” Val, who will keep saying how much he loves kids; all an effort to buff up a slightly tarnished image! Like I said, I’ve watched this show too long and I’m cynical about everything anymore! And them being the only jive? Also seems convenient, whether it’s a good or mediocre performance.
Leigh, very well put. I’m a DWTS-cynic too.
They have four cha-chas so I think they could easily have given Wanya/Lindsay or Kim/Sasha a Jive. Since they didn’t, it looks suspiciously like they’re trying to make sure Ginger/Val stand out from the crowd and have no risk of having their dance suffer by comparison.
Oh well, it is what it is; and I refuse to let this ruin my enjoyment of the premiere. If TPTB continues pimping, the season will eventually be ruined for me; but I’m going to at least start with as positive an attitude as my inner cynic will allow. 😉
Word Cidra! At first, sans Derek, I wasn’t sure I’d be tuning in this season. But the cast intrigues me a bit, so I’ll be watching! But if the pimping and manipulation starts, I may give up and read Court’s rankings and then just watch those dances that were good on YouTube (skipping judges comments)! Here’s to hoping they (TPTB) can manage to not ruin another season for me!
The one thing that concerns me about Kim is that, per her twitter, the troupe is in her number. Len may blow a gasket.
I’ll join my fellow cynics and go a step further. I truly believe that Jodie was given to also in order to handicap her. Aside from the fact that Keo has a terrible track record, I just don’t see him coming up with anything exciting. Further, I don’t think that he ha really learned what works on this show. Yes, we haven’t seen anyone dance yet but on paper it just looks like TPTB are in a very slick way taking care of Ginger’s biggest female competition. Its slick in a sense that it “seems” that they are finally giving Keo a contender appeasing his fans, but really it serves their purpose more than anything.
T-minus three days almost!I can’t wait to see a classic Peta cha cha with hair swinging, hip shakin, and lots of arm swingin lol! I actually cant wait to see Geraldo, Marla, and Doug to see who does better and who may be the first to be elimnated. I think their dance order and the judges comments may have a big impact on the three of them more than anyone else for the first emlmination.
IN reference to Narices’s comment, ever since they switched out Conrad and started casting new pros, i had a feeling they will try to cast new dereks, or cheryls, or juliannes. But, to be honest they kind of have no choice, there wil come a time where everyone will get older and for the survival of the show they’ll need to cast new personalities aka pros that mimic or can keep the franchice alive.
But, until that time comes…Derek argentine tangos please lol!
Couples I am looking forward to without a doubt :
Kim and Sasha
Jodie and Keo (Keo please give us some good choreo 😛 )
Ginger and Val ( Isee them starting out on stage near the band and ending somewhere in the middle of the dancefloor)
and
Geraldo and Edyta
Oh Shim, you are a cynic indeed. I would LOL if it weren’t so believable.
I’m definitely tuning in as I do every season, but I’ve learned at some point in the season to start muting the judges comments. Makes for a more enjoyable evening, I’ve found.
really looking forward to:
Nyle & Peta
Kim & Sasha
Paige & Mark
Wanya & Lindsay
and all the rest too, of course, but these are my top 4
SO glad no elimination until week 2 – I have advocated that pretty much every season
Kiril’s Tony is NOT for choreography either. It was Best Performance by a Leading ACTOR in a musical. Being a great dancer/actor doesn’t automatically mean you’re going to be a great choreographer. And WANTING to be a choreographer doesn’t mean you’ll be a great one either. Jury is out on him, big time.
And from what I understand, Mandy has a huge hand in what the troupe does.
Sasha got a hard time in the Cheesecake Awards?? Are you sure you’re not thinking of Henry??
Or, conversely Cidra, they gave no one else Jive to make sure THEY have a good night by doing Cha cha instead. Ginger has dance experience and can handle it – the same can’t be said for Wanya or Kim, as far as I know.
I think Ginger being the only one with the Jive is a definite advantage for her – but I wouldn’t want couples that I like (with no dance experience) to dance it against her on night one. THAT would be a travesty.
I think I may have given Sasha a hard time, because he was constantly bouncing all over the place like a jackrabbit when he was in troupe. He calmed down considerably when he made pro.
In fact, for most of the current pros that came from the troupe, I didn’t much care for them in the troupe – I thought Peta was trying too hard to be a sexpot, I thought Sharna was trying too hard to be Lacey, I thought Sasha was too hyper, and I thought Emma was constantly mugging for the camera. I think they all were just trying so hard to get noticed that it became grating. Then, when they made pro, they calmed down and didn’t feel the need to hustle so hard.
Interestingly enough, I loved Witney in the troupe (and in her first two seasons as pro), and now she’s probably tied with Sharna as my least favorite female pro. And admittedly, I was very hard on Lindsay in her first season – thought her going straight to pro was a bad idea, and thought she wasn’t mature enough to handle a partner. And now she’s probably my favorite female pro 🙂
I’m glad someone else has called out Kiril on his CV. He won a Tony Award for acting around 8 years ago. That means absolutely nothing on this show. It’s not like he won an emmy for choreography. He certainly comes off as the shirtless selfie loves himself type right now although maybe he’ll prove me wrongs.
Also happy about no elimination in week 1. As much as Lolo was a disaster, I felt bad for her only getting one dance and being booted straight out the next day. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a double elimination in week 2.
Yeah that was absolutely it. It was definitely Sasha, for overdancing and relying on his gymnastics too much. He got called “Buddy the overdancing elf” and “Stuart from MadTV” (which I wish I had never googled.) Not that you didn’t have a point, just that it’s interesting how views change and how much better Sasha is as a pro than a troupe member, whereas other people (like Lindsay at first) belong in the troupe.
Courtney, your description of the current pros of when they were in troupe is right on point. It cracks me up.
I forgot to add in my comment that I do look forward to seeing choreo from Lindsay also.I’m not sure if she uses a ghost or not but I do think she’s awesome as a pro. She doesn’t seem desperate to be on camera, seems humble, is enjoyable to watch, and doesn’t seem to be the type that likes drama.
Maybe they gave Ginger Jive week 1 sothat when she’s in the Finals her redemption dance can be Jive so that they can see her VAST improvement over the weeks.
I just can’t wait for an argentine tango from Nyle and Peta (hope its somehting like Aliona’s from strictly this past season).
Also, did I read something wrong by mistake??, but are they bringing back Latin Night this season? **fingers crossedthey do** but it does end up being messy, I just love the openeing numbers!
Sorry, “Buddy the acrobatic elf.” My mistake
@Mods I recently read that Ginger suffers from narcolepsy (allegedly; not sure if wiki is reliable) anyway, do you think she might get the more physically draining dances first (Jive may be a tad too exciting, Paso might be to intense, Quickstep is just a tiring dance). I only ask because nacolepsy has some cases where narcoleptics could slip into a tired (sluggish) state or even a cataplexic (complete sudden loss of control over some muscles) state just from the activity or even an emotional reaction (hence why paso doble and jive are also metioned; a moment thats too intense or maybe even a happy/exciting moment could turn into a disaster). Medication can limit how much of these episodes you have as a narcoleptic, but overall as a narcoleptic you must just avoid situations where emotions might run high. This is just a theory, but it may have some bearing behind it.
@Nico, Interesting. If narcoleptics “must just avoid situations where emotions might run high, Ginger should *never* have agreed to do DWTS. For everyone’s sake, I hope her narcolepsy is very mild or well controlled by meds.
I once knew someone with narcolepsy, many years ago. He has since passed away, but he was a really calm, easy-going guy. Sometimes he would just “nod off” in the middle of a sentence. He had to be careful about driving and some other activities. I don’t recall anything about restricting his excitement levels, but he was not the type to get excited anyway. Interesting information from Nico, I didn’t know all that. As for Ginger, she seems to find herself in high energy situations so if any of it is true, she seems to have it under control.
@Nico I read about that too. Interesting theory; I don’t know if that has to do with it though.
To be honest, I do not see the advantage with Ginger getting Jive while no one else does. Or is it only in week 1 that getting a unique dance is an advantage because I believe couples have gotten unique dances in week 2 in past seasons. I guess i would be more alarmed if it was an easier dance they got as I find Jive to be extremely hard lol. In other news, extremely excited for:
Jodie & Keo
Wanya & Lindsay
Kim & Sasha
Doug & Karina
Nyle & Peta
In that order! Can’t wait for monday!
There are several reasons I can think of that it’s an advantage, Nof.
1. It’s week 1 and they will stand out with a different dance in which higher energy is required. She has experience so it shouldn’t be too hard.
2. Standing out in a field of 12 much bigger stars with much bigger fanbases is critical.
3. If they make it to the end and Jive is one of the re-do dances she can show tremendous growth, where other dances might not create the same growth situation for someone with experience.
4. Since no one else is dancing Jive, she can’t be compared to anyone else…although this one works well for the other celebs too.
5. Getting a harder dance out of the way early is critical – there are lesser dancers more likely to leave even if you screw up the harder dance. If you stack the front end of the competition with hard dances, they road to the final (when there are fewer celebs) is much easier on the back side. She’ll be doing cha cha or some shit when others are doing AT. Watch – next week she gets Samba and we’ll know the fix is in.
I do agree with some of your points, PH. Although I think the argument of getting a hard dance out of the way could also be made for the couples quickstepping. Also, hypothetically if she does Chacha when other couples are doing AT or some sort, I do not see the advantage there especially when there is more to be done with an AT. i think people are more likely to be less impressed by a cha cha in the later weeks.
However, I do see how you and others may see it as an advantage especially if she does really well in the Jive. It’ll be “oh its such a hard dance for week one and she did so well” and noone else to compare her to. I get that; i guess it just doesn’t worry me as of now. If it becomes a trend, then imma have a problem lol
PH, based on rehearsal footage my guess is Ginger has the foxtrot next week, though I think I heard some samba talk so it could be that. I’d love if all the Week 1 Latin people had Ballroom Week 2 and vice versa (I believe Jodie may have Jive Week 2 and I think Von could possibly have Salsa, so I can see this happening) somewhat like how it used to be in earlier seasons.
I think there are potential advantages and disadvantages to being the only one dancing your style vs. being one of multiple people doing it. The former gives you the opportunity to stand out on your own, and with the latter you have a chance to be directly compared with any other couples doing that style and if you end up doing better, you make them look worse and they make you look better, and, especially early on, a lot of people will probably see this and it could provide you with a “safety net” of sorts over those who do not do as well as you. (I apologize, I don’t think I explained myself very well there but hopefully it was somewhat understandable. :P)
Tbh I understand ABC wanting Ginger to stick around on DWTS for awhile (and yes, with the Ginger situation I think it’s the network itself more than the show’s producers that want this, since it seems the DWTS-specific producers would have other priorities this season) and even though she does have some experience with organized dance I don’t think her fanbase can touch that of some others this season, so I can get them possibly doing a couple things to even the playing field a bit in order to help her with that (giving her a popular pro, promoting her on their news program, etc.) Do I like it? No, but it’s how television works, unfortunately. I just hope it doesn’t become super obnoxious. (Example: If she does end up going last last with the only jive of the night on Monday that could be quite obnoxious. :P) Ginger seems like a really cool person and I want to be able to enjoy her journey on the show, not seeth with anger at whatever manipulation may be happening every time I see her. 😛
As for who I think the DWTS producers would want to pimp most my guess is Antonio since they seem to really want to get Sharna a MBT, with an outside chance of Keo (though I can’t figure out yet whether they gave him Jodie to help him, hinder her, or some combination of both). I hope any manipulation that may happen doesn’t turn me off these couples either. 😛
There could be varied intentions behind such allocation of dances on week one, but one thing I can sure of is that it would potentially decide the finanlists (most probably winner too) for this season.
I don’t know if I am correct but a contestant who scores maximum on Week one usually paves his/her way for the finals. Be it Alfonso, Rumer or Bindi.
However, there are few exceptions too but probability of that very contestant increases as the memory never fades so easily as far this show is concerned. One prime example would be Candace who was assigned a contemporary routine on first week, thereby creating a space of her own in entire competition.
To conclude, a small glitch on opening week might cost a contestant a lot. I just hope that nobody gets dragged because of TPTB’s decision.
Of course you could say that about quickstep, Nof – and there are TWO people doing quickstep. One is Marla who is not likely to last long, and the other is Antonio who could possibly WIN and is paired with a pro they may well pimp to a win this season. Antonio gets it out of the way early and benefits by a high energy dance. All the same rules apply except for the comparisons, which I doubt he will need to worry about. And he doesn’t really need to worry about standing out, since he’s ANTONIO. I see just as much potential pimpage in that corner as I do with Val and Ginger.
While I definitely do think that giving Val and Ginger a jive compared to the toher dance is obvious pimpage, I do agree with PH.
Having a quickstep or even a tango or foxtrot allows the judges to dock points early on for those who are definitely going to go past week 2 and 3 aka Jodie and Antonio or even Paige and Mark. They can redo the dance in the finale and it also ALLOWS for a perceived “growth” through judges points, which may also serve an agenda.
I doubt their agenda wants Ginger and Val to win. I really think they will pimp the hell out of Antonia and Sharna starting mid to late season.
They may pimp Von and WItney earlier on because I see more votes going to Lindsay and Wanya or Sharna. THey’ll definitely want a Battle of the Football Players arch (idk why I capitalized those lol).
I think Ginger and Val are just fluff and entertainment for the show, Val fans, and exposure for Ginger…I guess.
On a side note…wouldn’t “I Just Wanna Dance” by Nathali Makoma be a good song opener or finale opening? (I’m still on a mission to figure out the opening song lol) :p
I think you have it way backwards, Moksh. For one thing, people like Candace stick around not because she was given contemporary on week 1, although that could be part of it, but because she had a big and faithful fanbase and she wasn’t a horrible dancer. There was worse. I think having a dance like contemporary was a detriment to Candace, ultimately, because she raised the expectations of what she was going to do too high. I think that pretty clearly showed that contemporary – while still difficult – is not comparable to Ballroom, there are fewer rules and therefore it’s easier to get a higher score.
People don’t make the finals based on the dance they’re handed in week 1, generally. It’s not that simple. There are too many other factors, such as fanbase, general ability, likeability, etc. More than half the time the show has been running, the person winning the show has NOT been the high scorer in week 1. I counted – 11 times the person who ended up winning was in 2nd, 3rd or even lower placed in week 1. And the people who won and knocked it out of the park in week 1 were really good dancers at the start. The dance you get in week 1 can help you, for sure – but pave the way to the finals? That’s over stating it. If you have a great fanbase already, your week 1 dance is not likely to hurt you or help you. If you are one of the lesser knowns – like Ginger – in a field of pretty big names, it can definitely help you stick around longer and make you stand out. But there is NO guarantee of a spot in the finals. There are too many other factors at play.
I know I’m not the first to mention this, but my thought is that they are giving Ginger the most strenuous dance up front while she is still relatively fresh. She has a lot on her plate and it could become difficult for her even with the inevitable pimpage. I think they will also pimp the hell out of Nyle (notice how the show has already started the in your face sex with him and Peta), and also Antonio because both are paired with the show’s other two pet pros. My hope this season lies in reflecting on last season when their pimpage backfired. I’m loving Wayna, Kim and Paige so far.
Thanks PH for the detailed account. Appreciated. 🙂
@Rose1: I’m not so sure that the show is pimping Nyle too much yet… I think Peta has always used the sexual shtick and I mean she still is a good choreographer and does awesome lifts/tricks.
Btw, Antonio and Sharna are giving me Hines and Kym feelings…due mostly to constumes and marketing from the show.
(some fodder)
Imagine the Finale: Paige and Mark win over Antonio and Sharna LOL (kinda hoping this happens, even though I like Sharna)
Word is that Peta has for the most part used help, even so I disagree that she has had good choreography. If true, Karina had a hand in her freestyle dance with Donald, which was one of the good routines. I’m not happy that they gave Nyle to her instead of either Karina, or Edyta who I consider to be far superior.
Rose1 #44 – I’ve heard that Karina only came up with the idea to make Donald’s freestyle country-music themed, but she did not have a hand in choreographing it at all. The mods might know more.
Peta does have a tendency to resort to the sexy schtick and dumbs down the choreo as a result. She’s really not a consistent choreographer. She did well with Tommy, but he was limited in what he could do. We’ll just have to wait and see how she does with Nyle. If all they amount to is a bump and grind sans shirt, I’ll be very disappointed.
Worth mentioning that in the last five seasons since they started this format without the results show, the couple dancing first on week 1 has done cha cha. Brant, Nene, Antonio, Willow and Victor. I imagine they’ll want someone entertaining to open the show up so you can probably bank on either Wanya, Geraldo or Kim dancing first. Whoever dances last is anyone’s guess but obviously they’ll want someone very good. I think they may have the three footballers perform one after another or have Von and Antonio dancing together like they did Alexa and Carlos. I guess that would leave Jodie with the pimp slot. Maybe an outside chance of Ginger.
My guess for the order/pimp spots: (only cuz its fun lol)
First out of the gate: Ginger and Val (I can just see them saying “First up is a jive from Val and can he weather the storm with his partner… Ginger Zee!”)
Second: Doug and Karina maybe
Last: Jodie and Keo
There were many years beyond the last five seasons where the opening dance was a cha cha.
I’m reading everywhere that Paige has become the odds on favorite to win this season. I also hear that people have come to know all about her changing their opinions about her chances. I think that it may be a sign that her fan base may be growing already, which would be a great thing. I hope that this is like what happened with Bindi last season, because look at what happened last season. Most people didn’t know who Bindi was eventhough many knew that she was the daughter of Steve Irwin, But she won the audience over with her personality. So maybe the same will happen with Paige.
Victor’s first dance last season was actually a salsa, M8, but you could be right that they like to start things up with some Latin heat (or sometimes Latin without the heat if the dancer isn’t very good. :P)
I’ve noticed the last performance of the season-opener usually comes from:
A) a good dancer (in the past four seasons, the final first-night performance has been the highest-scored dance of the evening)
and
B) one of the “bigger name” celebrities; someone a good chunk of the audience is excited to see
Based on Facebook comments the most anticipated contestants this season are by far Antonio, Von, and Jodie, but there could be someone else with a lot of fans and strong dancing skills who could go last tomorrow night.
How sweet of Bindi to be thinking of this season’s cast and sending some of her positivity their way.
Mark just confirmed on Twitter that he and Paige will be dancing second tomorrow.
Ugh… And now Paige and Mark are dancing second. They are going to kill that foxtrot, but of course they are going to end up probably getting underscored. I sure hope they get 8’s or 9’s though.
@CH While going 2nd is usually kinda “bad”, I wouldn’t worry much. Pretty sure Paige is gonna do a very good Foxtrot
Lea and Artem went second and got straight 8’s and so did Shawn and Derek and got a pretty good score as well.
I think going second is probably bad news for people who probably are not the best of dancers and are bound to be forgettable which I don’t think will be the case with Paige and Mark.
CH, control your freak out until after they’ve danced. And if I have to continue saying this to you because all you contribute is this silliness, I’m just gonna ban you. I’m not going to read the same one line all season long.
If you guys had been reading this blog for a long period of time, you would know that it has long been discussed that the pimp spot usually goes to a good or great DANCE (not necessarily dancer) or someone with a huge name. I don’t see any reason why it would not be one of the three Julia mentioned, unless someone else has busted out some great choreo. But I doubt it. I expect it to be a football player, Kim or Jodie.
Er, yes most people DID know who Bindi was CH, they just hadn’t heard from or seen her in a very long time. What is it, exactly, that you’re smoking that makes you flip from one extreme to the other??
Actually, no matter WHO you are, going 2nd, 3rd and 4th have been shown to be the “bad” spots to dance. Courtney did a whole study on it.
That said, plenty of people who have won the show have danced in one of those three spots on the first night. Helio danced 3rd, Brooke danced 4th, Donny danced 5th, Hines danced 3rd, Donald danced 3rd, and Corbin danced 2nd (he didn’t win but he was he favorite). It’s hardly worthy of a CH caliber freak out. Being underscored on the first night is also not the end of the world unless you are true cannon fodder, in which case you aren’t long for the show anyway. ONE night dancing in the second spot – especially on the first night – is no reason to have a fit. If it continues to happen week after week, then we’ll talk.
CH, you can say what you want WITHIN REASON. But saying the same thing over and over…having the same fangirl freak out over and over and over while contributing nothing else of substance is TROLLING. And for that I could just ban you and be done with it. But you know what? I haven’t done that. I’ve been trying to give you a chance. And I’ve been telling you that you’re annoying as hell. Do you think you could get a CLUE?? Here’s another clue – don’t bitch about my “helping” you.
Mods: would love your thoughts on how you think scoring will be this season especially with Len back. I’m thinking it’s going to start on the low side, some 5 & 6s wouldn’t surprise me tomorrow. I’m hoping they go no higher than an 8 and only if dance is WOW for week 1. What do you all think? Value your opinions. Thanks for all the information and hard work you’ve done for this season and for giving us a nice place to express our thoughts about the show. You are all truly appreciated! also thanks to all my fellow commentators, I love hearing you views!
I’m really excited for Jodie tomorrow. I just started watching Fuller House yesterday and in one of the episodes (with Maks/Val and I think Tyne?) they did a dance-off and Jodie was working it. I hope Keo gives her some good content!
Who do you think will get the highest score? The last 4 seasons had the one who danced last get first on the leaderboard.
I hope they give no more than 8s as well. I don’t like it when they give out 9s, but if they deserve it, then fair enough.
I reckon the scoring will be similar to season 18. With the competition so high, a lot of people will end up with very similar scores, there’s not much room to manouvre with three judges. I can’t see their being massive gaps to make up for celebs to catch other celebs in votes in order to stay in the competition (unless Geraldo stays longer than he should). So how long you stay will probably come down to how well you come off on camera compared to others.
Really hard to say, Liz. I don’t think we’ll see anything too different from what has been typical the last few seasons. They’ve been starting with 5s and 6s for what? Two seasons now? I don’t expect that to change. I’m most curious to see who Len’s new whipping boy/girl will be. I suspect Mark…or perhaps Sharna if it appears she might run away with it.
I don’t know why that would change, Cuddles. Since they usually save either the best dance or the biggest star for last, the odds of that person being the high score are pretty high.
Thx Princess Heidi. You’re right. I guess I was remembering one season recently where it seemed high. Maybe S19? I agree. My gut tells me Mark will be next whipping boy unless Paige has beautiful lines? Other than that I guess we wait til tonight.
Just a somewhat random thought: TPTB gave Doug Flutie (a Boston-area native) a song that is associated not with football but with the Red Sox (they’ve played “Sweet Caroline” at every home game for over a decade).
I’m not sure whether that’s a good thing or a bad thing.
Sam, most people neither know nor care about the Red Sox using that song. Most of the DWTS audience knows that song because it’s been around for ever and it’s one of his huge songs. I certainly didn’t associate it with a baseball team.
Kim and Sasha are dancing first, per Sasha’s instagram.
My prediction was right yay. Makes sense to have cha cha to a proper party song as well. Hope they go well and have a good routine! It’s taken Sasha two years to get back to this position so I hope he does well.
PH – I agree the jive is a big advantage for them. I would just add one other reason to your list. Wasn’t it Shirley Ballas who said Val was possibly the best jiver she had ever seen? Jive is Vals best dance – so he will shine, and I believe that TPTB are looking at that to spark interest in them. She is seriously under-fanned (lol), compared to the other celebs, but if Val comes out with some phenomenal jive, it gets people wanting to see him (them) dance again and vote for them. I almost think TPTB are worried about her lack of followers. And now I see several GMA cast mates are going to be in attendance. Guess they are pulling out all the stops to keep her afloat. And Im NOT saying she isn’t good enough to stay in, but it def looks like TPTB think she needs some voting help.
Rooting for Paige, but looking forward to also seeing Jodie and Ginger dance tonight. Based on clips, they’re all looking good.
Agree with you Sarina, they ain’t taking any chances are they with Ginger and Val. Ramming them down our throats. TPTB must be worried about the strong competition this season for votes.
For some reason I always look forward to the dancers that I’m not sure will do well or not on premiere night. Like I already know Ginger, Paige and Jodie for example will be great, so it makes me not really look forward to them as much. I get excited for the stars who I don’t know will be good or bad and could surprise me. So for me at the moment those are The Footballers, Wanya, Mischa and Kim. Also in a twisted way I’m looking forward to Geraldo. If anything at least he’ll make me laugh.
OMG Val is already posting pics of Ginger’s baby for votes. Good thing the kid is cute. Wonder how the mom of the DS girl in the meme feels?
Looking forward to tonight! Totally rooting for my girl Sharna. I don’t know but I’ve noticed she’s been kinda quiet about rhis season. I’m feeling kind of an off vibe with her. Maybe it’s just me, but I definitely see something different there. Last season she was ecstatic about Nick. Anyway good luck to everyone!
EmnEm (#39) I found the song it’s ‘Show Me Your Moves’ by Haley Reinhart