Dancing with the Stars Season 23, Week 4 – LIVE BLOG!!
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Well, I suspect that tonight will either be mind blowing and fantastic…or an utter clusteryouknowwhat. I’ll be surprised if there is middle ground. And after hearing Derek have to defend Julianne in two interviews when he should have been talking about his performance and being included with the elite of Hollywood, Imma be pissed if Julianne actually apologizes when she did nothing wrong. But I got 5 bucks she does.
So what happened to Tom’s Audio?? He was announcing them and then he stopped.
All Access note: Derek and Marilu make their first appearance and it’s week 4. Some couples are on every week.
Crap, double elimination tomorrow nite!!!
Damn, Calvin is impressing me every single week. That was good dancing, great choreography.
Dang, Julianne, you better not throw out a 7.
CAI making it sound like it’s her idea to not call out lifts. LOL. Whateves babe.
You’ve got to be kidding me….they were totally robbed.
Oh Maureen…this is not a good edit. Buck up, girl. You’re tired. Get more sleep.
Bird dude is creepy.
Maureen’s doing a good job…she could be sharper. Too soft, but improvement from her. And she looks gorgeous.
Kindness from Bruno, but I bet she gets 7’s. Kindness from CAI as well. Hmmmm…8s. Calvin gets a 7 from Jules, yet Maureen gets 3 8s. I wonder if she’s in danger and they’re arranging a shock.
Point your toes, Jana. Pretty good dance, but a tad boring. But then I’ve never been big on the V. Waltz.
And she gets a point lower than Maureen as well. Huh. Something’s rotten in Denmark. I found Jana boring, but her dancing is at another level from Maureen.
I kinda figured that memory would be an issue…but dang, that was a good dance. I would like her to be a bit sharper in places, but she pretty much killed it. I can’t imagine having all that choreography in your head.
Derek’s eyes are freaking me out. Julianne is right…but she was better than last week so she better not get a 7. She was also better than Maureen who got an 8.
Oh boy. They are going to screw her over on scores. Yep…screwed over. I have a hard time seeing that as a worse dance than the three that went before her.
Heh…All Access update: Derek has three women working him over in the Red Room. I think fixing or removing his make up.
Amber created a misunderstanding you mean…Jaysus. Hypersensitive. “Hopefully she didn’t mean it that way”? Um, you go to the media first and THEN you say this? And this package is tailor made to force an apology from Julianne and high scores from all three judges.
Or maybe not…because there were all kinds of missteps in there. And all Maks did was use the table, no real choreo (that was a JOKE based on the C-bros fans comments over Amy’s dance – and ain’t it a shame that I have to spell that out).
Oh. My. God. Julianne is in the press as clearing it up. Jays. STFU. Don’t do it Julianne. Don’t do it.
YES!! No apology. π Oh jeez. Now she’s drooling over a dance that wasn’t all that. Gonna be over scored.
Yep. Way overstored.
Pretty good dance from Ryan, I guess. Love the outfits. Let me guess…he gets 8s too. That’s not at all suspicious.
:::sigh:::
Okay, missed half of Babyface because I went for booze. Looks okay, but he doesn’t seem like he’s moving. More like Allison dancing around him.
And he was in trouble before, he’s in worse shape now.
Terra is just a badass, I think. I think she’s been overscored in the past but she certainly is compelling. I can’t stop watching her. She did a great.
Of course Laurie’s doing a great job…but were isn’t much to this dance, is there? I mean, it looks and feels like a cha cha. He can do ANYTHING, no holds barred and that’s it?? It was just…okay. Of course she danced it great, but I’m underwhelmed. Tell me what was technically difficult or impressive, please. I’m at a loss, I guess. That’s like Shawn Johnson with Derek week 1 when she was making little impact.
Why does Val always have to talk more than his partner? Shut up already. No shock at all on the scores…but don’t agree with them. I wager both Maureen and Marilu (to name only two) had more difficult choreography.
I really enjoy V.Ice quite a bit, and I have to hand it to Witney – he’s not a natural dancer but she’s hasn’t checked out. That tells me that she enjoys him too. Was it a great V. Waltz? Well, no, but it was better than a few others tonight and it was compelling to watch.
Come on James!! Knock it out of the park.
And he does. Best dance of the night, by a good bit. And a quickstep too. Much more difficult than Laurie, more character, more difficult choreography. Great in hold, creative, well staged. Well done.
I didn’t see a damn mistake. But it doesn’t matter. He’s not going anywhere and I think that he might win this show.
Hehe…All Access Note: Very clearly set up a Derek/Marilu “stealth cam” in the red room. They told Derek they were going to do it, went and got Marilu and they have the cameras “hidden” behind the make up tables. Total set up. But it looks like he’s telling her the judges mean nothing. π
NIGHT TWO…here we go!!Β
Heh…shocking choreo right here at the beginning with the bump and grind….oh, wait, that’s not surprising or shocking at all.
Okay, Calvin and Lindsay up against Marilu and Derek.
Marilu SAFE!!
Uh oh. Β Calvin…oh thank jesus, he’s safe too.
OMG!!!!!!!!! Okay, sobbing not. Sasha just proposed to Emma, for those in different time zones. She said yes. It was amazing.
Okay, it’s official. Derek was right in his tweets and he’s sitting out. Although….this has more choreo than anything they give the women generally. Perhaps he was talking about something else? Hmmm….the mystery continues. Β Was the choreo changed?
Jaysus, DWTS just doesn’t know when to stop milking shit for drama.
Next three up, Maureen, Amber and Babyface.
Amber is safe.
Oh boy….first person eliminated tonight is: Babyface and Allison.
That means Maureen is safe.
Aaannndddd…just hand Derek another emmy statue right now. π The video is already out. And there’s a lot of water involved….
Calming down…
Next couple safe is: Laurie and Val (so shocking).
Terra and Sasha – Safe – don’t put him in jeopardy when he gets engaged.
James and Sharna – in jeopardy.
Don’t freak out James fans – I just can’t believe that the guy who should win the show would be eliminated. Plus, I don’t want to have to do a postmortem DBTN. π
V.Ice…you are ultra cool. Love him.
Bad sign that I was wracking my brain to figure out who hadn’t been up on stage yet.
LOL to V.Ice and Maureen and their little rap routine.
Next couple safe is: Ryan and Cheryl
V.Ice and Witney – Jeopardy
Jana and Gleb – Jeopardy
After the commercial break…. James and Sharna are safe.
DAMN IT!! Not my V.Ice!! Poop.
Okay, allow me to editorialize for a minute for the James and Sharna fans. You have to get to work. While jeopardy might mean nothing, it could also mean that they were stimulating his votes. Don’t rest on your laurels. When I studied it several seasons ago, there was only ONE person to win the show after being in jeopardy and that was Jennifer Grey. Granted, I did the study a while ago and it could have happened again…but create more accounts. You are my hope for wresting this competition away from the producers plan. π
Fingers crossed we’ll see more amazing stuff and less manipulation and drama.
I’m watching from a beach resort in The Dominican Republic with an endless supply of passion fruit margaritas. Yum!
Second week in a row where I’m eating Wendy’s while watching lol. Gym here I come lol…but chicken nuggets are too tempting. Also, costumes on point π love it
@Susan2: send some to New York please lol
shit a double elimination. tomorrow . I guess it’s Maureen and Amber or maybe Babyface . I guess it depends on the performance tonight
First off, LOVE Calvin & Lindsay’s costumes. Adored that routine! Saw a few minor baubles with the getting into the tricks, but otherwise YAY!!! to that Charleston!
Sad they got stuck going first. Might hurt them.
Boo to the double elimination! No reason for it.
Lindsay and Calvin were great -so entertaining. Lindsay choreographs great Charlestons!!
Double elimination…..no Bueno. That’s going to be rough to watch since this week isnt going to work in some people’s favor me thinks. Anyways, Calvin killed that dance. I’m in awe. I’d give that a 9 easily.
I just spied a Mr. Jason Mraz in the audience, one of my all time dream wish list cast members! Oh, please let him be on this spring g!!
Also, am I the only person I awe of the person on the bike. I’m cool with heights but that would give me a heart attack. Like whoever came up with that trick must have been like “how can I make bike riding scary as hell”
Yep Calvin & Linds were ROBBED! That was a GREAT routine!!
Not a SINGLE 9 and a freakin’ 7???? What even? I hope this means Calvin & Lindsay are getting tons of votes and are being lowballed score-wise as a result. Or am I being too optimistic? π
I thought Calvin&Lindsay would get at least a well deserved 9. A freaking 7! You have got to be kidding me. Is Calvin running away with the votes and is a threat to Val’s 2nd Mirrorball?
I did love their Steampunk costumes.
Calvin and Lindsay rocked that! It was so energetic and the lifts were amazing. Robbed with the scores though. A 7?! Seriously.
Loved Calvin and Lindsay’s costumes, performance and the choreo. I think the 7 was too low.
I think this was my fave of Mo’s dances thus far. Her best, IMHO! I wish it had more FEELING, though. I needed the passion of the tango but didn’t get it, even if she executed the steps well. I also feel like it might get lost in the shuffle of the more spectacle-heavy, trick-filled dances.
Loved, loved, loved the steampunk costumes! And Lindsay’s choreography! What the hey Julianne?!! Despite being robbed, Calvin is having a hell of a journey! Where’s the sister who laughed and said he can’t dance now?
Maureen who is one of the most optimistic contestants ever got a bad edit but owns the dance. Now THAT is how you make tptb look dumb. I wouldn’t have given that an 8 as well
Ok, there is NO WAY that was better than Calvin and Linds’ dance. She has to be in trouble or something. Just makes no sense at all to me. Interested to see how the rest of the scoring goes tonight.
I think I saw Alicia mataldo (sp) front row. I guess we have our first rumor for next season. And by the way, she looks fabulous. Screw you Trump! Sorry mods but I had to go there.
How did Maureen score higher than Calvin?! If she got 8s, Calvin should have received 9s.
I thought Maureen did well and I’m happy for her, but there is no way that was better than Calvin – he deserved at least one nine for his routine.
I definitely see why Calvin got a 7, there was no swivel action in his dance at all
Calvin and Lindsay were terrific and the routine was exciting and fun. I thought they should’ve gotten all 8s; what the heck was Julianne thinking with a 7? Maureen & Artem did a good job also, I thought. I’m sorry, but what the heck is going on with Julianne’s hairdo tonight? It looks like an attempt at a 1920’s flapper look, but I think it misses the mark. Also, I think the Circque acrobats are extremely distracting during the dances; it’s hard for me to watch.
Costumes look fantastic. Double elimination Hmmmm.
Lindsay and Calvin looked great. Good job of balancing the dancing with the Cirque elements. I think 8’s are about right.
Maureen and Artem First off I want that dress! Beautiful. The dance was well done. She’s really improving from week to week That said I don’t know that it was better than Calvin’s.
She had some good moments but I was expecting them to not like it and the red bird was awkward. Definitely was only worth 7s at the most and NOT higher score than Calvin. I think she’s definitely one of the 2 being eliminated tomorrow and they are trying to be kind since she’s a fragile personality.
In no way was Maureen’s dance better than Calvin’s. He deserved at least all 8’s. I really hope Calvin is running away with the votes! I will be so disappointed if he goes home this week!
Shame on Julianne. Maureen was much improved, but to give her an 8 after having given Calvin a 7? That’s just wrong. Those 8s for Maureen were really a gift. Calvin was better.
Forgot to add this before but the bird guy had me in stitches lol. Something about him I find hysterical….it’s like a looney tunes character lol. Anyways, Jana and gleb. That video was interesting and I’m starting to see that she is just positivity all the time and I love that so seeing her look so exhausted in Rehersal like that was unsettling. Somehow I feel like there is a clip of Maureen saying the same thing she said at the end of that video that didn’t make Maureen’s video and is on the cutting room floor. The dance was Great. I’d give it an 8…albeit a bit disappointed that they didn’t get a weird bird or a bike in the sky though lol.
If anything those scores 100% prove that Maureen’s in trouble. Don’t get me wrong it was good it was good but not 8s good. I don’t get why they’d be so nice to her though if she’s getting eliminated. Surely she’s more likely to meltdown if it’s a shock elimination lol. As for Jana finally a breakthrough dance in my opinion and well done for Gleb for finally bringing his choreography chops to the show. Calvin definitely still a front runner though. That Charleston slayed for me.
The commentary on why someone got a score is pointless unless you compare the scores that one got (Calvin) to what another got (Maureen) – then it becomes bullshit.
Calvin getting scored below Maureen. Definitely bogus manipulation.
As for Jana & Gleb: the staging of this was beautiful. Also adored the choreo. THIS was the Jana I was missing since week 1. Very lovely dance and just a feel good number!
Calvin *totally* got robbed – how did Jana get the same score?? And I thought Jana was good, and broke out of the “sexy” vibe and did something different, which I’m really happy with. But Calvin was awesome, and he was penalized.
Don’t want to beat a dead horse- but Calvin was light-years better than Maureen and Jana. Way, way underscored. And with a double elimination this week, the blatant underscoring is even more unacceptable.
The ka performer is amazing and reminded me of the luchas from wwe. Marilu and Derek literally make me smile and I’m literally shocked that her gift can trip her up like that. Minor complaint: troupe members didn’t have great costumes. Choreogrpahy was killer and she owned that dance. Honestly don’t know what more she can do to impress the judges this week that was so full on. Easily would give that an 8.
Gleb is so gorgeous but this partnership just isn’t standing out enough. Sadly I think they could be In trouble this week.
Yes..totally screwed on scores! Why did they drop the hammer on her this week ??? It was much better than Maureen’s dance !
7s….ok here comes a rant. Are they kidding me? When she gave Calvin a 7 I thought “weird” but this is like “here is what you need to do and we are going to build all that up….but here is a 7 becuase we really want to underscore you.”
Omg they were STILL trying to push the mean Derek narrative from last week with footage of last week. ::eye roll::
OMG this CHOREO! This STAGING. I expected nothing less from Derek. I’m in awe at that flag/cape work. Like with Mo I feel Marilu mastered the choreo but lacked some feeling (at least expression wise). Still loved this dance though.
Ah. I’m agreeing with Julianne’s critique. “Feel more.” That’s all I’m missing from Marilu to be completely sold.
IT WAS BETTER THAN 7’S OMG. Another travesty. Particularly when realizing Maureen and Artem are in the lead thus far. I liked that dance, but in NO WAY was it superior to Calvin’s or Marilu’s.
I thought they said Jana danced a Foxtrot. Was it actually a Vienna Waltz?
I hate to say it but Jana and Gleb are so forgettable. Every week their dances get mixed in with others and honestly I think they might be going soon.
Jana and Gleb She seemed much more relaxed this time. Scores are about what I figured and with 3 close scores it looks like they’re throwing it to voters this week.
Marilu and Derek WOW! If they don’t gt at last 9’s I’m going to be upset but IMHO it was a 10. 7?? Seriously it was much better than either Jana or Maureen. What a joke!
And here we go making a big deal over an innocuous remark!! Total BS!!! Give me a freakin break!
I was right that is ex-Miss Universe Alicia Matoldo in the audience. Well that didn’t take long for dwts to get her front and center.
I didn’t like that Tango. Didn’t think Amber was very sharp in her leg work. Julianne did NOT need to apologize. And no way was that dance better than Marilu!
The bubble sky scares the hell out of me. Like he looks like he could be the villain in a movie where he kidnaps children with bubbles or something. Feel free to use my idea Hollywood. Anyways, Amber and maks. That video…..no. Just no. Like oh she was to sexy so here is a burlesque show to get inspiration from hehe. Honestly I wasn’t feeling this dance at all. Costume was hot though but that compared with the table crawling and the butt shake by the table was a bit over the top lol. I’d give that a 7. Can’t wait to read the Facebook comments lol. The look on juliannes face was like “try me just try to start” and then her little speech was perfect. The gushing over this dance was just so much. Yeah so anyways that dance was a bit awkward to watch I’d imagine for a good portion of the viewers but here are the 8s. No just no
come on that was bullshit score.Derek and Marilu deserve 8 or 9. If they go home tomorrow , the show is fix.Their routine was better than Maureen and Jana
Ryan is having a blast this week lol. I’d imagine the water is one of the few places where he is super comfortable. You go you floating flamingo you lol. The dance was very unexpectedly good in my opinion. Besides the creepy dress hanging like Marie Antoinette without a head I wouldn’t change a single thing lol. I’d give that an 8. Ryan just had his breakthrough moment.
I can’t blame Amber for the misunderstanding. Last week I thought Julianne’s comment wasn’t geared to the dance but just nasty (although I thought it more toward Maks with Amber being punished for it). However, I should’ve remembered how manipulated the clips shown are. Julianne’s initial media response reminded me that they place comments without context. With that in mind, I now understand what I should’ve before: that Jules was indeed responding not to Amber’s sexuality but to how uncomfortable she felt watching Amber not be authentic in the dance. But I don’t expect Amber to be as privy to the manipulations of TPTB (unless Maks told her, and I wouldn’t expect him to, dense as he can be). This is a woman who has been slutshamed her entire damn career. She’s more used to that than anything. So while I think Julianne was misunderstood and didn’t have to apologize, I also can’t blame Amber for being hypersensitive. And now I hope the whole matter is put to bed.
As for the dance, I loved that tango because as it was said, Amber was finally in a place where she could shine rather than being forced into a mold that didn’t fit. Didn’t think it that remarkable though. 8’s were fair for the dance itself to me but UNFAIR when I remember that Marilu and Calvin were scored lower (with dances I thought better).
Loved Ryan & Cheryl’s dance! His best imho!
I loved Derek and Marilu dance thought was the best dance of the night . I didn’t love Maureen dance I thought she was overscored .
Shoutout to PDH on All Access from Marilu and Derek!
Cant believe Marilu has the lowest score so far. They better know they have the votes to make it through tomorrow:(
This is such a joke of a night, the scoring is just so weird. 8s for Maureen and Amber. Both higher than Calvin. Ryan higher than Marilu. Horrible edits/packages. All we need is the chosen one to get 10s for the night to be complete. Cirque week is turning out to be exactly what I expected. A shambles!
Didn’t Babyface have an X-Files tango like two weeks ago? Strange
Babyface makes me happy and he did a great job on his x files where he just owned that so I had high expectations for this. Honestly I liked it but didn’t love it and did not like the lights at all. I’d give that a 7. Love how he said that in love tv though π
I can’t believe that Derek and Marilu have the lowest score so far.If they go home tomorrow,i would be mad and i will stop watching.
@Blueberry The X-Files Tango was the Argentine one. This one is the standard ballroom one.
Oh Babyface. If the lights worked out it would have been amazing. I don’t know what happened but it could of been so so good. You could see how frustrated Alison was within the first minute of the dance
On live tv* dang autocorrect
Amber and Maks- Package looks like he’s doing a repeat of Mark and Paiges tango.
Yup basically GRRRRR OK that said Amber was good but no way better then Marilu or Calvin.
Ryan & Cheryl Aww his face was precious like hey Mom look at me I can dance! But wait it was BETTER the Marilu and Derek? I love Cheryl but SERIOUSLY??
Marilu SHOULD do better with votes but still…
Babyface and Allison- Hard song for Tango but hey did pretty well Maybe 7’s? 6’s OUCH but not surprised.
I’m so sad the lights didn’t work out for Babyface & Allison. They were both clearly frustrated during and after the dance! For the first time tonight, I 100% agree with scoring and it’s such a shame. π
My only explanation of why Maureen and Amber got higher scores than Calvin, Jana, and Marilu is because both are going home tomorrow night…
The scoring as always is a mess.Some couple deserve their score but some are way underscore
The lineup for the tour is great but more to come? Just hoping it’s not Laurie becuase she needs a couple of months of break lol. Anyways, terra and Sasha are a blast to watch but not my fav from them. The twirling guy….wow. Anyways I’d give that an 8
I love Sasha so much. He’s sunshine personified. π
Terra was clearly having fun during that dance. Always love seeing that in a samba. She was pretty much nailing it I think until the samba roll. I think that part was bungled, but otherwise I enjoyed it!
why is there a double elimination tomorrow all of a sudden?? Marilu & Derek were underscored! I’ll be so mad if they go home tomorrow! I hope people VOTE for them and don’t just assume Marilu will be safe because of Derek!
I looked like Sasha was dragging Terra along towards the end. Geez, these judges are way over the top with praise here.
“9” are you kidding me!!!!
I adore Babyface’s personality! So glad that I got to “know” him through this show. But he just doesn’t seem to get the energy needed in these performances.
Terra looks AMAZING in the dress they made for her samba!!! I hate Sasha’s suit though!
Calvin low-balled. Seriously, I like Mo but she got higher than Calvin? I threw my votes to Calvin this week because it ticket me off.
Happy for Ryan.
Really like Gleb’s choreography and their song. He missed up and showed variety.
Still love Terra! She’s so entertaining and into it every time she’s on camera. She may actually be a dark horse for the finals.
Laurie is a sweetheart but honestly I don’t get all the hoopla over this dance. Val is so excited to play MJ and can’t half ass the moves…..well I wish he did that for his freestyle with ginger lol. Anyways the dance was good but honestly I didn’t love it. I would have given it An 8. Also, since when is it a no no to dance to an MJ song? I can’t really think of a bad routine to any of his songs that has ever been done on the show…if anything his music is more of an inspiration for the contestant.
I’m guessing it is a double elimination to make room for switch-up week.
Really enjoyed that dance from Laurie. Loved the integration of classic MJ moves and she was clearly embodying the song/mood. And she nailed all of her moves!
Of course, my joy is also marred by the fact that they gave Laurie a JAZZ routine on a theme week that was already tailor-made for her. And no one else got that dance style of course. Time for the tens to come out and make the favoritism complete. *sigh*
Really a perfect score?! Ugh.
Great dance and totally deserving of the first 30!! Most memorable of the first four weeks by far!
Choreography for Val&Laurie’s dance compared to some of the challenging and intricate choreo we’ve seen tonight from other couples, is like comparing grade school to college. That was a very simplistic, time a-wasting routine. I don’t care how well she danced, and she did dance it well, no way should that be scored a 10 when other contestants got freaking 8’s and even 7’s for doing much harder, ambitious choreography.
That little Laurie was fantastic tonight. I love that she was the character & it was totally natural for her. She reminded me of Rita Mereno in this number.
A perfect score or that. Barf! It’s way too early for that. I’m thinking she isn’t running away with the votes.
I was really looking forward to Cirque du Soleil night, even though I’m not particularly a fan of the actual show(s). But it’s a big letdown for me. I don’t understand the point of having dancing in the foreground that has absolutely no connection to what’s going on in the background. The air cyclist and the red bird in particular were merely distracting, not enhancers in any way. Whether or not Derek and Marilu were underscored (and I do agree that she was very careful in her movement), I appreciated that he actually incorporated the theme into his choreography. Cheryl *almost* did, and Alison *sort of* did, but both of them didn’t quite get there. I don’t know that anybody else even made an attempt, though I may be forgetting something.
Poor Babyface, though. Did Alison have any inkling when she choreographed the dance what the lighting situation would be? Babyface clearly got so fixated on making sure they hit their marks that he couldn’t concentrate on anything else. If that blocking information was given to them just yesterday, it’s a crying shame. But if she knew earlier than that, Alison should have prepared him for it better.
Sasha and Tera are a great team. I think I’m enjoying them the most of all this season’s couples.
Well there you have it NO gymnastics a good but not great dance and they STILL pull out the 10 paddles. I’m trying so hard to look at this objectively because Laurie IS good and puts in the time but that dance was NOT a 10.
They deserved the perfect score. Laurie really shined through in this dance.
She didn’t deserve a perfect score.The routine wasn’t complicated
It’s not always about being complicated but that’s just my opinion…
Considering the judges gave Maureen and Amber 8’s, I do think Laurie’s scores were expected. The scoring has been generous tonight.
Val had Jazz, Michael Jackson, Cirque Week, and an Olympic gold medal winning gymnast…..and we get fucking prissy walking and sitting on a bench???? What the eff. I’m so over this show. I mean yeah Laurie danced what she was given perfectly, but the problem is that she was given crap for choreography.
Perfect score!?! WTF – she spent half the dance sitting on the bench.
Watching vanilla ice is like an ice cream on a hot day in the middle of summer…much needed. That video was scary…didn’t realize how busy he was! This dance was something. Choreogrpahy was good I guess but that was a lot of cirque in there with the weird spinning person in the middle towards the end. That kinda freaked me out but I liked that lol. I’d give that an 8
Well, I think TPTB have finally succeeded in getting me to walk away for good! I’ll watch D’s performance tomorrow and then honestly, I think I’m done with this show!
Why bother watching when the winner has already been picked? I like Laurie, but this is ridiculous!
I’ll read this site, but the way I feel right now after this mess of a night (scoring wise anyway), I truly don’t think I can stomach watching anymore!
LOVED VANILLA AND WITNEY! I think they killed that dance. It’s so great to see someone overcome their busy schedules and genuinely try to do well. I’ve probably said this hundreds of time already but HIS PERSONAL BEST, IMHO. So refreshing after Antonio last season who had plenty of free time but didn’t put in the work (I’m still salty). I expect it to be underscored, though.
I’m surprised just how much i am loving Vanilla Ice. He makes me smile.
But now Val and Laurie have to deliver at this level every week. I’m happy, but I don’t envy them.
I didn’t watch tonight, Leigh, and from the comments here, I’m glad I didn’t! Even with Derek back on the show, I just can’t watch with all the manipulation and drama. I, too, will watch Derek’s dance tomorrow night and then I am done with DWTS on my TV.
Understanding that everyone has different opinions, but as a black woman is makes me uncomfortable that amber is cast as the overreaching off-base one when it’s her body, her life experiences, her perception of the comment PERIOD. People make mistakes and honestly it seems immature to me that Juliane could not have offered a simple apology that her comments were not received in the way she intended. Again, I understand everyone has different opinions but as a long time fan of the show, I have seen time and time again the icky or disrespectful ways that certain black women have be treated on here. For me personally, it does not sit well and I just wanted to offer another perspective.
Val, shut up! Give Laurie the spotlight for a change & let her speak after getting her scores & not butt in & hog up the rest of the time. We need to get to know Laurie not you Val.
Really liked what Witney & V.Ice were able to do with his crazy schedule this week. 5 shows in 5 days! Imagine what he could do if he had only one show during the week.
Of course you are entitled to your own opinions, but does it ever occur to you that the Laurie gets the best scores because she’s the best dancer? I agree the scores are a bit wonky tonight, but that has nothing to do with Laurie. She’s fantastic, and deserves every score she’s gotten this competition.
James is just so much fun. This dance was my fav from his thus far. Now that is how you end a show! I’d give that a 10
Sharna looks very Jessica Rabbit. All that’s missing are the gloves!
Didn’t quite know if there was enough quickstep in that dance, but pushing that aside he moved so beautifully! Enjoyed the sheer level of spectacle & fun in the dance. A showstopper for sure. Loved it.
Tom bringing up him and Calvin being the biggest surprises. Selfishly glad others noticing the power of my faves. π
She executes simple choreography very well, Zee.
I haven’t watched this season yet. I used to love this show so much but with all the manipulations, they have turned me off. I read here cause I am having a hard time going cold turkey but watching the shenanigans of this show I am done with.
Julianne owed no apology, Ariel. Just because you perceive a comment a certain way doesn’t mean you’re NOT being oversensitive and that you’re owed an apology. It’s YOUR perception that’s the problem – how is that Julianne’s fault. I’m glad Julianne refrained. Everyone should know by now that this show is highly edited. Not to mention that, coupled with Bruno’s comment, it was clearly a reflection of the crap choreography.
@audrey there is no way to assume Marilu is safe she is second to last so you bet we are voting..
Wowsa!! That was my favorite dance of the season so far. And I agree, James just might win this season.
James and Sharna THAT is what a perfect performance looks like kiddies. YAY Bruno for having the guts to give them a 10! I am really hoping they win the whole thing They’ve been awesome since week 1.
Well that was a hot mess of a show. I don’t envy you mods writing about it tomorrow Thanks for all you do. Have a good night.
And this is why I don’t like Jazz….everyone with a dance that has specific content and technique except 1?? basically free pass to do whatever you like to a killer MJ song….ridiculous
Has Julianne bought into TPTB manipulation? I would have thought she would have experienced it herself or seen her brother suffer from with the judging – if she doesn’t do it will she not have a paddle?
Also, always wondered how they could manipulate like this – packages are one thing, but the scoring is something else. Don’t the celebs get a flat rate then bonuses if they last to the semi’s and beyond? Isn’t screwing with someone’s scores to help drive another storyline potentially taking away from another’s potential to earn more $$.
If not a TPTB conspiracy, then these judges SUCK at judging…
Laurie’s still winning the mirrorball trophy, but I enjoyed everyone tonight.
Babyface’s routine was the weakest and I don’t think he has a strong enough fanbase to survive a double elimination. It’s gonna be sad to say goodbye to him tomorrow.
Marilu is 2nd from bottom, so she’ll need more votes than anyone. I really don’t want to see anyone else in the bottom leave. This is the worst week to have a double elimination.
James won the night IMO but tonight might have been my least favorite night in forever. The cirque performers were, by and large, really distracting, and the scoring was a mess. Laurie and Val’s perfect score wasn’t shocking (Val’s partners almost always get the first perfect score it seems) but man that boy cannot choreo jazz to save his life. Marilu being in 10th is beyond ridiculous, as is Maureen and Amber outscoring Calvin. Marilu got all my votes but if she goes home and the manipulation with scoring continues, it might turn into another season 20 for me where I have to stop watching halfway through the season. The nonsense with Amber almost put me over the edge- I’ve lost a ton of respect for her this week.
I did find it interesting that Tom took time to comment on how surprising and amazing everyone is finding James and Calvin this season and how they have no dance experience. Tom usually doesn’t wade into that stuff- but I appreciated it. Lindsay and Sharna’s choreo is running circles around Val- he needs to step it up for Laurie.
Cirque night was an overall disappointment to me. They have the promo with the pros and celebs saying flips! Tricks! Gymnastics! Leading me (and maybe others?) to think it’s going your be big productions with stars & pros going these flips and tricks. Instead we get dances with some boring cirque theming and acrobats in the background. Halloween & Disney nights are done better than this.
That’s not to say that there were some really great dances, but they just did not feel special to me or live up to the idea of cirque. It could have been any other theme week. I realize it’s a fine line, but I hope they don’t do cirque week again.
This isn’t posted until the show is over. A lot of the first 33 comments were about Calvin and Lindsay being so underscored, and rightfully so. In light of the later 30 (Laurie)and 28 (James), IMO if Calvin and Lindsay had danced in the last three their score would have at least been a 26 if not a 27.
That’s the problem with being a leader (from last week) and having to go first with a fast dance that compares better with much later ones than the several following the opening.
I hope this means Calvin is nailing it with the votes!
I’ve not seen the performance yet, but from what I’m reading, I’m not going to be very happy with James’ scores, even though I did read he was given a ten by Bruno. So many people saying they’re gonna stop watching because of Laurie and Val, well the TPTB and Val more like it. Now is the time for fans to throw a monkey wrench into TPTB, and vote for the couple most likely to win the MBT If Laurie doesn’t. And to me, that has Hinch’s name written all over it. And oh for the love of God, I sound like a politician. I’ve seen one too many debates, even though there’s only been one.
James and Sharna had my favorite dance of the night. I thought it deserved a perfect score. My second favorite was Calvin and Lindsay and then Laurie and Val.
Most everyone seemed to be in a good place except for Babyface’s figurative face plant.
I think it will be Babyface definitely going home and either Ryan or Ice. I’m hoping Maureen and Marilou make it another couple of weeks.
I hope Ryan and Cheryl are safe through tomorrow’s DE! π If anything, I thought they would advertise a fake elimin. but no one would leave tomorrow since it was a heavily induced theme night with many rules thrown out the already wonky window…and have a double elimin. next week. SO much for that thought.
WOW…Derek and Marilu haven’t been on All Access yet? Are TPTB really trying to bring Derek down every season he’s on now, while pimping the bajeezus out of Val?! In utter disbelief regarding this All Access news. At least Dominic should have brought them up to the show.
I thought Ryan did a great job and deserved another 8 at least. I can’t even compare scores with other performances because its just ludicrous at this point. The only problem I have is I can’t figure out whether they want to severely underscore Ryan and Cheryl each week
-so he doesn’t get cocky and to make him work for it?
-to protect TPTB’s prized celeb posession that is Val…sorry I meant Laurie?
-for a growth arc?
-or because he’s killin it in the votes (which I doubt)?
I’m glad LAURIE got all 10s. Its only week 4…so maybe she’ll just keep getting 10s and no one will vote for her (jokes…but not really) and Ryan (I wish), James or Marilu can swoop in and grab that mirrorball!
Based on scores tonight and agreeing with you @M8, I’d say Maureen and Artem and Babyface and Allison are leaving. I would rather Jana and Gleb leave than Maureen and Artem, but for some reason I feel like ABC has something invested in Jana (just a consp. theory, plus I like Gleb).
Sorry for the wordy post.
The very worst thing about Laurie’s dance was that Val had a young gymnast, MJ, Jazz and no rules…and he made no use of it at all. He punted. Of course she danced it great – she’s a 16 year old gymnast. But nearly every other couple had more difficult choreo.
Well, priscila, considering her ringerdom, Val phoned it in. And was rewarded for it.
LOL, Zee. Poor Val and Laurie having to “deliver at this level” – as if that’s a difficult task. Maybe they’ll take away the bench next week….
Yes they went on All Access twice,this week and week 1. I agree it’s either Maureen,BabyFace or maybe Amber who goes home.Maybe a shocker with Jana or Vanilla Ice.
They were on tonight for the first time, EmnEm.
I could have really enjoyed tonight’s show except for the travesty of the scores. There were only a few people who I thought really earned the scores they got – and everyone else was either overscored or underscored.
Probably the biggest travesty was that Marilu is the second from the bottom of the leaderboard. She fully deserved to get eights (and possibly a nine) for that dance. It was definitely better than last week’s, but they didn’t acknowledge that with her scores at all. The second biggest travesty was Calvin’s score – that number was probably the second best of the night (James in first, of course). I mean, how the *heck* was Vanilla’s dance (though an improvement from last week) better than Marilu’s? How do Jana and Maureen and *Amber* score better than Calvin? And a perfect score for Laurie? I like Laurie, but seriously – that was *not* a 30. Now, the reason it was remotely that good was that Val didn’t choreograph it – he just took the number out of the show. And he acts so impressed with himself.
I’m just so frustrated with the show right now. Off the top of my head, James and Ryan may be the only ones who got the scores that their dances were worth – and maybe Babyface, though that’s sad to say. And either Marilu and Calvin were *seriously* underscored, or Maureen, Jana, Vanilla and Amber were *seriously* overscored – or both. And then both Terra and Laurie were overscored as well – Terra just a little, and Laurie quite a bit. Yes, she performed it well, but it wasn’t all that.
Way to go, you PTB, on ruining what could have been a really fun night of entertainment.
No, soph, they weren’t interviewed in the All Access Skybox until tonight. Their appearance on all access in week 1 was after the actual show was over. I only saw it by accident.
I’m just going to assume Babyface is going but the second couple is going to be interesting. Fingers crossed it’s Amber
I wish Len was there tonight because I’d have loved to hear the ole hypocrite’s spin on Amber and Maks’ AT after him saying that Paige and Mark’s AT crossed a line for him last season!
Laurie and Val were not the only couple to have a freestyle type of dance; Calvin and Lindsey had a Charelston.
The Charleston actually has rules and the choreography was much more complicated than what Val gave Laurie.
according to George on twitter ,Next week it’s MMY so I really hope that my favourite like Marilu and Calvin survives the double elimination.If they leaves i will be really mad.
I’ve seen a number of people on SM say they can’t watch until Ryan goes. Unfortunately, that’s exactly how I feel about Amber. Following here, and voting for Marilou and Derek, but I’m sitting it out until she goes. Vin, same here, hope it’s tomorrow night.
While I’m venting, both the dance order and many of the packages were also frustrating. Calvin and Marilu both got screwed by the dance order, and Maureen and Jana both seemed to get a bad edit (especially Maureen). And of course, Val (Laurie) gets in the second half of the show. At least she didn’t close out the night. James and Sharna did a fantastic job on the quickstep. If Calvin had gone second to last, instead of Vanilla, he probably would also have gotten nines for his dance (which it totally deserved). Instead he was stuck with a seven. Still SMH.
I really want to tweet or something to Dominic to find out why Marilu and Derek haven’t been on All Access? I thought I just always missed their interview …arghhh.
Aside from that, I thought the use of Cirque as a theme was tasteful and I really think the collaboration was great. Not tacky, or overtaking the dance like some troupe members have in the past or even with the set and props.
Also, forgot to mention Val’s…I meant Laurie’s package. π
Really Val? Why are you MJ? You should focus on Laurie being the first Queen of Pop or female MJ. Glad the judges made the whole MJ comparison about Laurie and ignored Val…while they gave nods and kudos to some other pros.
I just wish Laurie’s experience wasn’t always about Val.
So does jazz, princess Heidi, But they are styles that give the performers a lot of leeway when it comes to interpretation.
Really sucks about double elimination this week. I guess the producers don’t way to pay a celeb another week. Derek and Marilu dance, loved it to death. Derek is a master at dance & choreo and no other pro can touch him. Loved James and Sharna’s dance. To me, Sharna is the best female choreo of the group, slowly creeping up to being like a female Derek in the choreo department, but not quite there yet. Calvin and Lindsey did so well. Definitely over scored. Laurie is so cute, but the dance did not deserve all 10’s. I think all 9’s would have been sufficient. Best dance by Amber to date, but it did not deserve all 8’s. I felt it was like the producers told the judge’s to give her that to try to calm her ruffled feathers. Am glad that Julianne did not apologize to Amber. Julianne did nothing wrong and I really think that Amber threw Julianne under the bus on purpose in order to get people to support her in some odd way. Kinda surprised that Maks didn’t appear to want to get involved in the whole Amber/Julianne controversy. I really thought because of their past history that goes beyond comments made about one another, Maks would have kinda egged Amber on. Pending fatherhood and becoming a hubby to Peta must really be changing his outlook on things for the better. I hope it sticks. Ryan really kinda shocked me tonight. For me, I think this was his best dance so far and he just is so goofy, it is hard to dislike him for long. My prediction for the ones to go home tomorrow is Babyface & Amber.
Ooops….meant to say that Calvin and Lindsey were definitely UNDER SCORED.
Gee, Zee…you completely ignored the difficulty part of my comment. Jazz has never had rules ON THIS SHOW. Charleston has. Plus, Calvin’s Charleston had a higher degree of difficulty than Laurie’s jazz that looked like a Cha cha. So, you put Laurie with few rules and kindergarten choreo up against all these dances which had stricter rules – of course she gets 10s. But it’s not a fair comparison – not even close.
I don’t think Jana got that bad an edit to be honest simply because they showed Jana and Gleb working it out in the end. Compare that to Maureen’s edit which didn’t even show that when it’s obvious that she gets on well with Artem. I wonder if her edit had something to do with the judges giving sympathy 8s. The same goes for Amber, I do sometimes feel like the judges watch the VT and let’s it influence their scores somewhat.
Watching all access over again aonce I missed Derek and Marilu…Marilu gave a shout out to PureDerekHough! How exciting! ?
I see, Princess Heidi. I’m going to wait to pass judgment on the content of the dances until I watch them.
Let me get this straight – you’re in here posting comments and you haven’t even watched the dances yet? That’s a big no no.
I just watched Laurie and Val’s dance and I don’t understand the 10’s at all! It seemed like all Laurie did was strut around and lunged on a bench. There was hardly any dance steps at all with the two of them. Val hardly did anything.
It may have copied the original from the Cirque show, but come on, 10’s? Calvin’s dance had so many complicated steps and so well executed and the costumes were exquisite!
Silly question, but was that Hinch’s voice at the beginning of that Quickstep, or just a really good lip sync?
Adored Laurie’s freestyle and all of her sass. Impressed with James and really enjoyed Vanilla Ice as well. Missed Calvin’s number unfortunately. I do agree that Marilu dances “in her head” too much. Agree with poster who said Jana is forgettable for some reason. Everytime Maureen smiles and gets excited it is like Marsha Brady all over again. Too cute
IThink Laurie is over rated. Yes she can dance and dance is wonderfully but I don’t think Val is challenging her with good choreography. She could’ve been much better off with Derek but you know we can’t give Derek the chance to win the seventh mirror ball.
My top six:
My favourite dance of the night was Calvin and Lindsay. I felt like it legitimately could have been from a Cirque show, Lindsay nailed the choreo and although they weren’t perfect, Calvin kept up incredibly well because in no way was that easy! Also loved James, who is my pick to win it all, such a showman! I LOVE Terra’s attitude and that Sasha is choreographing real routines for her, which she is dancing the shiz out of! I enjoyed Ryan & Cheryl but I think mostly because the music they danced to was so lovely, great staging by Cheryl. Derek & Marilu were just missing something for me, though I’m not sure what it was? Maybe just that the choreo and costumes (colour) were quite similar to a lot of Derek’s paso’s and so it just seemed ever so slightly recycled (don’t hate me, just my take!). I will say I thought Marilu danced it quite well.
Which brings me to Laurie: if he’s not too busy with Jersey Boys I’m sure Mark would have been weeping at what Val managed to do with the combination of jazz and a Michael Jackson song in Cirque du Soleil week. Which was nothing. N-O-thing. That could have been any other week, a pseudo Cha-Cha with few recognisable jazz steps and which Laurie basically carried. I’m surprised that none of the judges picked up on the “gymnast wrists/fingers” that were noticeable in her “solo” in the middle.Yes, the girl can actually dance but there’s definite critiques that can be made and she is being let down by Val big-time choreography wise.
My 2 favorites were James and Calvin. I thought out of everyone, Calvin got the most hosed with the score, but the scoring was overall weird.
Laurie is my favorite celeb on the show, but I do wish Val would do a little more with her. Maybe he got scared about the reduced rehearsal time, I dunno, but that dance could have had a lot more content. Laurie can handle it. Although I will say I appreciate that he didn’t go the route of making it basically a gymnastics routine, which he probably could have with Cirque week and a “freestyle” type of dance.
As I stated before in a previous post, I am no longer watching the show so I appreciate seeing the posted videos. Agree with most of the comments here. I thought Marilu’s Paso was absolutely fabulous- beautifully executed, beautifully staged, right on theme and dramatically fit the music. She danced well and no way was that dance worthy of 7’s. In comparison to other dances, she was 2nd or 3rd for the night and should have been scored as such. James earned 10’s in my opinion, but Marilu should have been right up there with 9’s. I feel sorry for Laurie. There was no choreography for her in that dance- she sat on a bench or wiggled a bit while her idiot partner basked in the glow of manipulation. I won’t even comment on his brother and partner. I will say the camera work and lighting this season leaves a lot to be desired and I will be surprised if the show gets a technical Emmy nomination. From the videos, looks like the theme and execution did not live up to the hype. Thanks.
One of my problems with Laurie’s routine is that (from what I understood from what was said on the show) Val. didn’t. choreograph. it. He just took the choreography from the Cirque show, adapted it a little (maybe – maybe the Cirque people adapted it), and there you go. That’s why he was thanking the Cirque people, etc. while he was up with Erin – he just lifted the routine from the show, which probably pulled at least some of the choreography from Michael Jackson music videos or something. So that wasn’t his routine, except that he danced in it. My thought is that the choreography might have actually been better than what Val *would* have choreographed, but I don’t know.
Heidi, I can’t wait to see your numbers post because I’m curious to see how many votes it’ll take for Marilu to be safe. I feel like her getting underscored angered a lot of people (me included) but with it being a double elimination, it’s a little scary, not gonna lie.
Oh and I may be the exception but I like Jana – I feel she has the potential and last night’s dance was a nice breakthrough for her. I think she’s going to do well with a dance like Argentine Tango or Paso.
The scoring this week was really crazy. Clearly Calvin and Marilu where underscored and others specially Amber & Maureen where VERY over scored. My favorites where: James, Laurie and Calvin.
James is just adorable, I want him to win it all.
I loved Laurie and she is great. But I agree that was one of the less complicated dances of the night. She can take more. It is also unfair that she got to do a “freestyle” that matches perfectly the theme while others had to learn very technical dances.
Calvin was waaayy underscored. He is really improving and that dance showed. Lindsey is doing a fantastic job.
O also liked Ryan, Marilu and Terra. Terra keeps surprising me every day. I didn’t see anything in Marilu’s dance that would be a 7 (she deserved at least 8s). And Cheryl is working wonders with Ryan, I’m loving that partnership.
The other dances IMO were ok. Don’t understand the over scoring of some people. But I’m happy Julianne did not apologize. Watching it I could only think: class; she is class act. Spoke wonderfully while not apologizing. #killthemwithkindness
PH, Marilu and Derek were on All Access week one during the show. just google “Marilu Henner Derek Hough All Access week one” and the first two pictures that pop up show them on AA during the show.
Yes I completely agree with most of everyone’s thoughts about Laurie and Val’s dance! I think ever since Danica, Val’s chores level has just gone down the drain. If you call strutting around and dancing on a bench a 10-worthy dance, then I give up. I will never understand why TPTB want to make Val the new golden boy and want to boost up all of his partners at the cost of the other, MORE deserving celebs. He makes me cringe. Same with Maks. What is it with these brothers and making their partners just stand around stationary objects tonight? Amber’s AT just lacked…everything.
Kudos to Julianne for not apologizing. I feel a lot of celebs are criticized for what they say because some butthurt person wants to take it the wrong way that they are left with no choice but to apologize… for something that was misinterpreted in the first place. Why? Glad Julianne cleared up what she meant instead of just saying sorry.
I feel SO horrible for Babyface. He seems like such an amazingly nice guy. I don’t know what I saw last night in his dance. I actually thought he forgot a lot of the steps, and also that they desperately looked like they were chasing after those lights to the point where all tango went away and it was all just walk fast and get in the light! I acknowledge that Allison wanted to bring something extra to the table since everyone else seemed to have these productions going on, but I don’t think it worked in their favor here. I would’ve rather it be spotlight free and he would’ve probably blown it out of the park.
JAMES IS AMAZING. Enough said.
Tina…not very many. π
I rewatched Laurie’s dance this morning and while she hits all the musical notes, the choreo is so easy. Compared with James, who had a quickstep, complicated choreography which required him to be completely in sync with the troupe dancers while doing it. The judges are so showing their agenda. Every other dance was proper ballroom except Laurie and I honestly don’t understand why Val wasn’t called out for all that bench warming she did. Their routine had a lot of Mandy Moore hair flipping and sexy faces. 10’s were not appropriate imo.
The thing with jana and gleb is weird. They shouldn’t be forgettable. They’re strikingly gorgeous together, and she can dance (although her feet are distracting to me). So what is the problem? I think this season has a lot of really good dancers and great personalities – maybe they’re just too ordinary.
Out of all the dances, I thought Terra’s was the best. Samba is not easy to do and she really surprised me. The only thing I didn’t like with it is that their costumes didn’t match the dancer in the background (or whatever that was) & he stood out too much, because his costume was way brighter than their white & black.
Laurie’s and Clay’s were very entertaining.
I think Amber and Babyface should be the ones voted off tonight.
For some reason, the costumes for this season have not been working for me. Very hit and miss.
I don’t know that I would give Marilu all 9s…but certainly 8s. I think the 7s were just ridiculous, particularly when held up next to Ryan, Amber and Maureen. Calvin’s score was also ridiculous. He should be in a solid third place on the night.
Echoing a couple of things:
1) Saying a certain score is wrong is useless. It’s how it compared to other dances and their scores. And last night was a travesty at that.
2) I actually really enjoyed the show – or at least 90% of it. Which I honestly haven’t enjoyed it that much in a long time. Of course – with the glaring exception of the scores.
The entertainment value was high throughout the night, and if rules were being tossed out the window (at CAI’s discretion – lol), then the scoring is just a bigger joke.
Calvin and James killed it. Laurie – her usual fun self, yes – a little more intensity from her this week, but absolutely nothing in that dance challenged her. Weak effort from Val again.
Amber – I have to say that IMO Juliannes’ comment was meant to show she was uncomfortable with what was going on in the dance, BUT – that is MAKS’ fault, not Ambers. And even tho he acted like he made a mistake for other reasons – I think Maks knows it was his choreo that prompted that comment. I do not think the comment was to single Amber out, I think it would have been the same for anyone basically twerking instead of dancing the assignment. If it had been me – I too would have been upset about the comment – but my anger/frustration would have been at Maks. For putting me in that position. But JMO.
As for this week – Maks just proved to me that he is not in this to win. That choreo was nothing. And i’m sorry – but Amber had like 5-10 leg kicks that needed to be strong and precise, they looked like slow foot dangles. If Maks can’t get any more energy out of her than that – they are out the door real soon. who knows – maybe Julianne’s praise last night was to soften her blow tonight. She is def bottom three. But I have today I’m glad she has been on and we have gotten to something of her besides tabloid fodder.
I don’t see how Babyface survives at this point. So then it’s btwn Amber and Maureen. I really hope it is Maureen. This drama and overly-emotional stuff is wearing me down already. And I think Artem too. I’m hoping the high-scores were to soften the blow that’s about to come.
Two questions for the mods.
1) Was Val’s trip to vegas really done for a 45 second live clip, or was it meant to make this dance seem more cirque and professional than it was? I can’t believe even Val couldn’t have picked up some MJ moves on his own.
2)The whole Marilu/Derek on Access this week made me think about ordering of dances. What do the mods make of how certain individuals are getting the bad spots? We know who is getting the good ones, so how does getting the bad ones seem to line up with order of elimination? Amber seems stuck in the middle – not a good sign IMO. vanilla got out of the middle last night, Terra has been almost all middle. What do the mods think are the worst spots to be in?
I don’t think anybody here *dislikes* Jana, Tina – but a lot of us just don’t feel like she’s standing out.
What way too many people who read this blog do on a fairly consistent basis – because they read too emotionally? – is equate us not liking a dance or critiquing a dance with not liking the PERSON dancing. That’s just immature – and in accurate. Kinda like Amber drawing all these “body shaming” conclusions where it was fairly obvious to most of us that Julianne wasn’t even close to going there. It’s what Val fans do on a daily basis.
Power rankings are up: https://www.puredwts.com/2016/10/04/puredwts-season-23-week-4-power-rankings/
And like Heidi, I’m completely over people equating me to saying “I didn’t care for this dance” to me saying “I hate the person doing the dance”. It is a completely childish worldview, and makes me think the person accusing me of it has the emotional maturity of a 13-year-old mean girl with PMS. Does it benefit people to have this kind of perception??? Would you prefer to think everybody hates everybody, simply because they don’t see eye to eye on everything? I’m honestly stumped as to how this kind of view of the world helps anybody…
I don’t dislike Jana, I like Jana and I was very excited as a OTH fan to see her on the show as I was that Gleb was her partner. I think some of my annoyance about this couple so far comes from the fact that they are so highly overrated by so many people. All I keep reading on social media is “Jana can win” “Jana will easily be in the final” “Jana was amazing and was underscored again”. It’s just incredibly tedious to me. So to sum up I think it’s probably her and Gleb’s fans that is turning them off me. I think they’re going to get a nasty shock in the future however because no way do I see her making the final unless she has a breakthrough dance very soon.
@M8 – And that is exactly my issue as well, and it’s one I’ve had with contestants in other seasons, too: the more a group of fans tells me “so-and-so can win, don’t underestimate so-and-so, he/she is a contender!” and the more that particular celeb fails to impress, the more it compounds how truly unimpressed I am with a certain celeb. Literally, the moment we spoiled Jana as a contestant, I had people telling me “Laurie & Jana will be the last two standing!” And then when I asked “Well, does Jana have dance experience?” all of them seemed to hem and haw and say “Well no, but she’s just going to be really naturally good!” I get that people love Jana – she seems like a nice girl. But a contender, so far, she is not.
Is it bad if I want Maureen to be eliminated solely because I’m getting tired of her rather dramatic emotions every week?
I agree that both Calvin and Marilu got hosed on the scores. Both of them were better than both Maureen and Ryan. I especially feel bad for Marilu because it seems to me that her low scores are making her think that she’s totally sucking. While she’s clearly not the best on the show, she’s also not one of the worst like the scores would indicate. It makes me sad that she’s really stressing about her performances, and I think the underscoring is contributing to that.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought Val’s (or maybe not Val’s) choreography was extremely easy. The whole time I was watching it, I was going: “But when are they going to start dancing?” I thought we might see something really great from Laurie this week, but all we got was great execution of a very easy dance. I’m also getting increasingly annoyed with the way Val always seems to be trying to steal the spotlight from Laurie. She was so adorable when she got all excited about the scores, but then Val took the mic and didn’t even let her talk. He even somehow managed to spin his Instagram post last night so that the part that was “about Laurie” was actually just him bragging about what a great guy he is.
@PH I do agree with that. And the fact that they keep putting her at the beginning doesn’t help at all. We’re 4 weeks in and she’s danced from 1-4 and hasn’t gone in the second half yet and Laurie has not gone in the first half yet at all.
I blame Artem somewhat for not warning Maureen that footage like what was shown would likely be used in the package. Having such a negative package will hurt her.
I’m surprised by the 10s for Laurie’s dance. She is naturally gifted, but it wasn’t that great. So far, she’s been in a faceoff with a 64 year old and then gets inflated scores. Is she possibly getting protected because she’s not getting as many votes as expected?
James knocked it out of the park and Sharna gave him a great routine. Best of the night in my opinion. Babyface was at the bottom for me. Scoring was the most surprising aspect of the whole show. Didn’t agree with most of them. Completely bogus even from a
non dancer amateur IMO, the scoring made no sense.
1. James & Sharna
2. Laurie & Val
3. Calvin & Lindsay
4. Marilu & Derek
5. Terra & Sasha
6. Jana & Glen
7. Amber& Maks
8. Ryan & Cheryl
9. V. Ice & Witney
10. Maureen & Artem
11. Babyface & Allison
Favorite quote of the night “Every party needs a pooper. That’s why we invited Tom.” HA!
I loved Calvin, James, Jana and Laurie. Val and Laurie did deserve their 10’s, sorry C-bro haters, that gets real tiresome.
Kinda like children who use the word “haters”, Eric.
I don’t know why, but I’m always annoyed watching Jenna dance. I feel like she…I dunno…overdoes it? I feel like I’ve seen too much focus on her in pro numbers lately.
YAY! Calvin & Marilu are safe!
Yes they’re both safe.So happy for them
Out of all the Jonas brothers I always found that joe was the most fun to watch perform lol (nick has the better voice though). Funny story: I had that haircut for a long two months (moderately long on the top but short really short in the side like a one blade) and let me tell you it’s a nightmare on hot days so in short great in pictures and and such but do it during the winter….i know a lot about haircuts becuase I tend to experiment with my hair sometimes. Anyways, good song but the choreography was a bit meh. Also, Marilu and Calvin being safe makes me very happy.
Yes! Best celeb couple in my opinion. And what a way to propose! The reaction from the others though made me beyond happy too. Shows how much they love them π
thank god!!!! Marilu and Calvin are safe.
Emma and Sasha. Perfect pair
Aw, now that was a proposal! And to see how happy everyone was and of course D was first there!
Aww…I cried seeing Sasha propose to Emma!! Congrats guys!!!!
Oh my goodness that proposal from Sasha was absolutely adorable. I wish them only the best!!!
So relieved Marilu and Calvin are safe!!
I KNEW SASHA WAS GOING TO PROPOSE!!!! The second they started dancing, I just knew it!!! I’m so happy for them, they are perfect for each other!
OMG! Sasha and Emma! Sooooo awesome!
But I wonder if that means that Sasha thinks that he is going home so he had better do it now?
Damn it I take a food break and miss the proposal for two of my fave pros! π
On the one hand, I personally would not want a public proposal as I’d want that moment to be private and I feel like they add extra pressure to say yes. On the other, there is no doubt that Emma and Sasha belong together and that they must both be over the moon. Congrats to those cuties!!!!!
With Marilu and Calvin safe I feel like I can breathe the rest of the show (unless chaos occurs and James goes home)
Not a huge fan of public proposals usually, but that was a really adorable proposal. And even though it was public, you could just tell how genuine it was.I simply love the two of them- as people and as dancers.
I can see why Derek sat out that “dance.” It was basically just spinning, clutching themselves, and brooding into the camera. Ugh
Oh my goodness too cute Congrats Emma and Sasha
Derek sat out so Val can get some attention at least during one dance. Otherwise, Val would cry that Derek took the attention for two whole dances tonight. Wah!!!!
So glad that Marilu and Calvin are safe! Yay!
Yay, Marilu & Derek are safe – I’ve never been more relieved! Heidi, you better tell all the Derek fans to keep voting like they did yesterday/today ;)!
I could totally see how they (the show/the choreographer) came to their senses and changed the choreo after Derek made his comments on twitter.
ok so Erin’s outfit is gorgeous. Anyways, I’m over the Amber and Julianne junk. Maureen saying that to tom was just awesome….love how happy she was. Amber and maks are safe….There is always next week. I love Babyface and his positive atitude. I want to see him redeem himself on that dance in the finale!
Definitely don’t blame Derek for sitting that 1 out. He is SO MUCH BETTER than that!
I missed Derek’s twitter stuff – what did he say?
Not a fan of public proposals either, but Emma and Sasha got lots of extra attention for themselves. Results show seems to be moving really fast.
And we JUST SAW how much BETTER Derek is! KAIROS!!! Ah-MAY-ZING!!
Watching the pros explain that made me really appreciage the pros but maks annoyed me. That Derek dance was amazing. Emmy? Derek vs Derek the faceoff lol. Take note brothers C., that is how you do a solo when you are handed one π . Maureen knew MJ?! How cool is that! The more celebs that say that the more I’m amazed on how many people he knew and how different they all were. James in jeopardy?! What fresh hell is this!
Went back and watched the proposal. So cute! I love how Derek immediately came up and gave them a giant hug.
I feel like Derek’s dance was overhyped. It wasn’t anything “you have to see to believe” like they kept pushing. I thought the mirror part with Allison was really cool, though. I also don’t mean to say that I didn’t like it. The quality of dancing in it was FANTASTIC. Just nothing novel imho. I think that’s more because everything I can think of that can be done has been done. Still the best pro number this season thus far, though!
I know James is probably in jeopardy just to add drama and he’s probably fine but nonetheless I’M NERVOUS. If he goes home, I seriously might stop watching the rest of the season.
Derek is so frickin’ talented and gifted. Composed the music, plays the drums, dances, etc. Yeah, and as soon as he is done – we say that Val and Laurie are safe. Sorry,TPTB, Val is not the next Derek!
So seeing those three and knowing we can lose vanilla making me scared. Sorry Jana but we can’t lose James or vanilla.
I am so happy for Emma and Sasha!!! They are absolutely perfect for each other!!! Love how Sasha did it.
Really disappointed with Cirque night last night. Thought they would incorporate the celebs more with the actual performers instead with them more them in the background.
Sad to see Vanilla Ice go.
Just realized why Erin’s outfit is bugging me tonight. It reminds me of a wishbone with her long skinny legs. Of course, if I had legs for days, I’d wear it too.
DAMN IT. I would’ve rather Jana go home than Vanilla. I wanted him around for at least another week or two. He’s such a sweetie. Just the best attitude (HIGH FIVING EVERYONE AS A RITUAL OMG), loves everybody. Ugh. Sad to see him go. π
I’m in shock. Vanilla ice was getting really good! Like I’m a mess. We lose him but Amber and Jana are safe and dance next week…..ugh. not cool.
Hit submit too early: I’d bet money that we see him in the finale doing the cha cha cha π . So there at least is a bit of a silver lining there but it’s thin.
This sucks balls! ? I did not want Vanilla Ice to go home ? This season for me is making me HATE elimination night.
I am legitimately surprised Jana got more votes than Vanilla (surprised Amber did too). Out of the people I thought were in trouble, he would have been one of my last pick. With Rick, Vanilla, and Babyface leaving we are losing our positive, no drama couples.
Also- four male celebs out first? Has that ever happened?
Vanilla! No! So sad!
PH I’m taking your James note to heart. Specially after seeing Vanilla go I think part of the problem of this season is that there are so may great personalities that there is too much vote splitting. Yesterday alone I divided my votes between James, Marilu, Vanilla, Calvin, Terra and Ryan. Which means that none of them got that many (from me at least).
I guess I will have to choose a fav (James at the moment) and just focus on voting for him. Vote splitting might be harmful for them all, I guess..
Just read the last thing you added: time to create more accounts it is becuase I’ll be damned if I see him get eliminated before that finale. Sorry there Val but from this point on James and Calvin are getting all my votes.
I count that as a shock. Gutted for Vanilla Ice, honestly thought he’d be safe considering his running order, his positivity and likeability etc. Maureen and Ambers support came through big time especially Mo’s to survive that edit. Four female pros out in a row now, if there was any doubt that the male pros are more popular. The demographic love their shirtless Russians lol. In all seriousness though it’s nice to see Witney go fairly early. It might simmer her ego down a bit. I also suspect Jana and Gleb fans will keep their mouths shut for a while after that shock lol. Oh and many congratulations to Emma and Sasha. Thrilled for them both!
Jennifer Grey isn’t the only winner to go in jeopardy.
Rumer was next to Willow when she got cut and that was Week 7.
Melissa was one of the last 3 standing when Sabrina got cut in All Stars, Week 6.
I mean the only thing that still stands is that no winners have been one of the last 2 standing for elimination before Week 6.
@Vin IMO the same could be said for Babyface & Allison’s X-Files Argentine Tango.
@Chayse I don’t think this has ever happened before. If anything, I hope that, from next week on, some of the women start to get cut… starting with Jana.
Agree with a lot of opinions tonight:
1. Jenna is way too much on my TV during pro numbers.
2. James needs more of his fans voting for him – if there were winners who were in jeopardy in the first half of the season there were very few. James does not have name recognition of Jennifer of Rumor, not even close.
Huge congrats to Emma and Sasha, love them both!!!
@Bia: I’ll be happy any dance he does if he does one at the finale. I’m just hoping he does the dance from yesterday and nails it like tony and Chyna that time.
READ the freakin’ NOTE, Matt. Jesus.
Yes, because everyone has time to read a long live blog, and through 200 comments so carefully not to repeat something.
Never been to a site, where so many people got yelled at or treated with attitude.
If you don’t have time to read the posts and the comments, you SHOULD NOT BE COMMENTING. It’s the ultimate in rudeness and you will get yelled at when you do it, like any rude child will get yelled at.
PH, I will definitely be taken your advice to heart on James. I haven’t even been voting this season, but man am I going to (and with multiple accounts) in any way possible now for him and Sharna. I can’t stomach the idea of him not making the finale.
1. I am very happily surprised that the producers announced Derek/Marilu safe at the top of the show. Sending my thanks to them telepathically through the ether… π
2. I would LOVE to know the details of how the expected male striptease morphed into a skinless dance on chairs as a result of Derek’s comments, if that is indeed what happened. Who, for example, made the decision to change the choreography? Producers? Mandy? The dancers? Such little glimpses into the show’s dynamics are fascinating to me. If you guys find out, will you share?
3. Thank you mods for all you do to enhance our DWTS viewing experience. It is very VERY much appreciated.
So happy for Sasha and Emma. They are my favorite couple and just the sweetest things!
I liked the male pro dance much better than the female one the night before.
I don’t consider V.Ice to have been a shocking elimination that Tom hinted at. To me shocking would have been someone considered to be able to win it all or at least make the finals. I never saw him past mid season. Glad it was him and not James or Calvin.
On a side note, I thought it completely hateful, albeit normal, for Val’s fan president or what she is to post shade again about the stripping tweet and Val had to respond with equal ugliness. Tonight was such a beautiful night and everyone was so happy for Sasha and Emma and celebrating and then he had to go remind everyone the show is about him.
I love Laurie. My family saw her at the Kellog’s show last week. She is just a ball of sunshine. He is a black hole of selfishness.
Ready to move on and get ready for MMY next week. Time to go get more tissues.
@44 I thought that looked like Machado. Is she a follower of Amber?
Well, molly, they are sad and empty people. Clearly, Derek put them to shame tonight. If they weren’t so insecure and jealous, they would’ve kept their mouths shut. Poor things.
I was going to say that we don’t know that’s what happened, Psychee, but if Val and his idiot friends are still tweeting about something Derek said a few days ago then he must have hit a nerve. And I have to think the choreo must have changed – what else would Derek be talking about?
Didn’t get to watch tonight and just caught up on things here – Babyface I expected to go, but bummed that Vanilla Ice left, and Amber and Maureen are still here. Hopefully, one of them will go during the next elimination – preferably Amber.
I AM SO FREAKING HAPPY FOR EMMA AND SASHA!!! I really knew something was up once they started dancing. The song. The sweet kiss at the end. And then Tom told everyone to quiet down and I just KNEW he was going to pop the question. They are so cute! Emma finally got her ring!!! In their ET interview, they mentioned that they have been talking about marriage and it’s definitely in their future. CONGRATS TO THE FUTURE MRS. FARBER AND HER KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOR!
Well, I was kind of hoping Babyface wouldn’t get eliminated tonight. Only because if they were going to have switch-up week, I would’ve liked to see him paired with another pro to see what he’s really capable of. I still don’t think Allison is very good. Yes, she’s a good choreographer, but her constant problem is not knowing how to choreograph to fit her partner’s capabilities, or better yet, she doesn’t know how to bring it out of them. Look at Andy. He was mediocre at best with her, and then he was partnered with Sharna for switch-up week and to me, it was like night and day. You have to be with the right partner who knows how to bring out the best in you. I think Allison is still having that problem. Sad he had to go during a bad week. Didn’t appreciate Allison’s attitude during Monday night’s show either. She was there sulking while her partner held his head up higher than she did. I actually thought the spotlights were her idea and then I read somewhere that it was not fully hers, so if that’s the case then I feel bad that it was kind of pushed on them. Either way, wouldn’t she have had the power to just say, “No, let’s cut the spotlights?” Sad for Babyface. He had potential. Maybe with a different partner he could’ve lasted longer.
Vanilla Ice was a little bit of a shock to me. He had a good week this week and I actually thought he had a lot of fans. Well, if anything, I’m glad they left on a good week. Witney doesn’t seem as sad about it as previous eliminations. I know she wanted this for Vanilla but I’m sure there was some part of her that was getting exhausted from all of the traveling she’s been doing, so she may be a bit happy that she can take a break from that. Either way, he’s such a positive person and I’m sad to see him go. He was definitely starting to do better. Would’ve liked to see what else he could bring.
I reeeeeeally want Amber and Maureen to go. Maureen just annoys me for some reason and Amber? She’s an okay person but I don’t know…there’s something about her. I think it’s that she hasn’t really…shown me anything. Every week it’s a half ass dance and it’s not exciting. I have Maks to blame for that. I wonder how Amber would do with a different partner.
Maks just doesn’t seem to care, and it’s affecting her.
James being in jeopardy made me a nervous wreck. I’m sure it was probably for drama, but still, I hope it woke his fans up. We all know what relying on high scores and not voting does. I don’t care if he’s at the top of the leaderboard or he’s a popular male contestant. VOTE TO KEEP HIM IN. I sure as hell will.
Looking forward to MMY.
For being a fanbase that is apparently “so sure” that Laurie & Val are going to win, I got quite a few tweets last night from Val fans that appeared to be quite bothered by the fact that I still think James could run away with the MBT if Val isn’t careful. One equated me doubting Laurie to me being sexually frustrated that neither James, nor Derek, nor Val would fuck me – but this gentleman was kind enough to offer to ejaculate on my face as consolation. Chivalry ain’t dead, ladies!!!
But seriously – if they can’t even deal with people not indulging in the “Laurie & Val already have the win locked up” groupthink, they must not feel nearly as confident as they claim.
I’m Team Hennergy…but as I said after week one, if Marilu doesn’t make the finals, then I’m throwing all my votes to Team StopandGo!! We MUST STOP Laurie and Val from winning as that’s the CLEAR agenda of TPTB this season.
Sorry Val…you BLEW a HUGE opportunity Monday night! You have an anything goes dance style with the most flexible contestant and THAT is what you came up with??? LAME-O!!! I too can strut and pose with a kick-ass costume and high heels plus writhe around on a bench like I was in a Whitesnake video!
But DAMN…Derek Hough. Kairos. Enough said!!
Court, they are so insecure that they can’t bear the thought of anyone voicing their fears.
They’re so insecure that a couple of them were bitching at Derek for why he got 3 full minutes to do his own thing on the show. And then asked, “Name the last time a pro got to to THAT!” I laughed…and named three other times which included just a week ago of Maks and Val doing…stuff. π The idiocy…
PH, yeah I read that βName the last time a pro got to to THAT!β thing too and LOLed considering Val&Maks had their own number just last week and also did one last season.
I bet if Len said what Julianne mentioned re Amber … it would have ended there period. That dance lousy chore. by the pro.
Shouldn’t have gotten all 10’s bc the help val got 4chore as he mentioned at the end of their dance. I guess hes not a good chore.
Amber should watch what Lil’Kim and her booty were able to do in her Samba in Week 3 and then she might realize it was the choreo that made the dance uncomfortable. What also made it uncomfortable was that Amber looked uncomfortable doing it.
@Courtney – What are your thoughts on James and Sharna being in jeopardy? I know that there can be some producer influence for drama purposes. But with it being so early in the competition it makes me wonder if James and Sharna could be struggling for votes.
I think TPTB are creating a storyline arc for James as he fights back from being “in jeopardy.” I think they’ll give him an emotional contemporary or waltz next week, when I guess his most memorable year will be last year when he almost died. They need to stir up some drama so that it does not become the Season of Laurie. They definitely want her to last until the finale, since she is a draw, but I think they would be OK if she loses is the end to James or Calvin.
@Sandy – As I told several Indycar fans on Twitter, I personally think his stint in jeopardy last night was just drama – I think he’s getting the votes, I think he’s still a frontrunner, and I think they needed a “gotcha!” last night to keep things interesting for the double elim…cause when you really think about it, Babyface was a goner, and Vanilla was third from the bottom…so it wasn’t a terribly shocking elim, in the great scheme of things. But throw the wildly-popular, charming guy up there that basically owned Monday’s show, and suddenly everyone’s paying attention. Somebody’s got to be in jeopardy with the doomed couple, and sometimes they just pick someone who’s likely to generate drama. And the drama of jeopardy probably only helped them, because I did see quite a few James fans rushing to create new accounts to vote with. And if he really is in danger (which I really doubt) – I would say the show is partially to blame for suddenly axing int’l voting, so if this was done to boost his votes…I have to kinda roll my eyes a bit. But given that Mama Spence & I kept getting busy signals for 10 minutes post-show on Monday night while trying to vote for James, I honestly don’t think they’re hurting for votes. James has kinda solidified his spot this season as a major player up against Laurie – and I think Calvin is quickly solidifying his spot as the 3rd party candidate. I honestly think James in particular has a shot at winning this – especially if Val continues on his current trajectory of just coasting by on ho-hum choreography, and talking over Laurie to the point that we barely hear her talk.
Dear Lord, I’m so sorry you have to put up with that sort of disgusting behavior by Val fans Courtney, especially that sleazoid and his ejaculate comment. He needs to go call crawl back under his slimy rock. What is effing WRONG with “people”?
I think James’ core fans just have to keep him in until Marilu is eliminated, or Finals night, whichever comes first. I’m fairly sure that a really big chunk of Derek’s fans, including me, will then transfer all of their votes to James for the win.
@Susan2 – Thanks, but the sad thing is that I’m finding myself increasingly unsurprised by the depths some trolls will stoop to…all because of something as trivial as my opinions ON A DANCE REALITY SHOW. My only explanation for the escalation in behavior is that Val has implicitly given his fans permission to get aggressive by doing the same thing himself – they see him doing it, so they think it’s perfectly fine for them to do it, too. But I will say I find it rather disturbing when male Val fans decide to attack – while female fans usually stick to the tried-and-true “you’re a bitch, you’re a mean girl, you’re jealous, etc.”, I find the male fans almost always take a very sexual tone, and it usually involves detailing various degrading things they’d like to do or think I deserve. Rape culture is alive & well, unfortunately.
Having thought about it now, Vanilla’s elimination isn’t as much as a shock to me than it was at the time. We all thought pre season that he would be an early boot as he doesn’t really have a fanbase that lines up with the demographic. I think we probably got a little blinded as he did Ice Ice Baby in week one, then got immunity which kept him safe for another week. He just ran out of safety nets, the surprise I think was because he was second to last in the running order but also came off as a super likeable guy and a positive personality so people including myself assumed people would give him votes. Obviously he was a lot of people’s 2nd or 3rd favourite and this is the result.
Didn’t James dance toward the end of the night, Court? That could be why he had so many busy signals after the show. I don’t doubt he’s very popular and could win the show (hope, hope), but a true test would be calling for him after the show when he dances early. I thought, in retrospect, that Tom’s “surprise” was Sasha and Emmy. Many people commented that he never used the word “shocking”.
@Courtney – it boggles my mind what behavior people think is okay. In what universe are such explicit derogatory comments acceptable???
Does this kind of behavior show up in the fans of multiple pros, or is it restricted to Val fans (or C bro fans)? If it is, what comes to mind is birds of a feather…