PureDWTS Season 24, Week 6 – The Team Dances: What We Know So Far & POLL
Let’s get right to it, shall we? 🙂
Team Boy Band:
Rashad & Emma
David & Lindsay
Nick & Peta
Bonner & Sharna
Team Girl Group:
Normani & Val
Simone & Sasha
Heather & Maks
Nancy & Artem
The dances: Freestyles again.
The songs: Medleys again – Team Boy Band has a medley of the Jackson 5, New Kids on the Block (“The Right Stuff”), and One Direction; Team Girl Group has “My Boyfriend’s Back” by The Angels, “No Scrubs” by TLC, and something by Fifth Harmony (of course).
The captains: No captains this time.
Source says: The female pros weren’t all that jazzed about the music at first, but it started to grow on them as they started to choreograph; the male celebs, however, were psyched and getting really into coming up with boy band moves to try out. To quote Deep Throat, “I’ve never seen a group of celebs so enthusiastic about the team dance!” Team Girl Group seemed a bit more subdued, and seemed to be letting the pros choreograph. To my knowledge, no – Heather was not helping choreograph.
Court’s thoughts: I think the men will probably take this one just based on enthusiasm alone – I tend to find if the group really LIKES their dance, they’re going to perform it better; just look at the differences from the team dances last season. I think team Girl Group’s choreo will likely be more difficult, but I don’t know that that’s necessarily a good thing if they aren’t all that jazzed about the dances they’re doing.
UPDATE: Added pictures…so far, @DancingABC has only posted pix of Team Boy Band. But I’ll be damned if this doesn’t look like a fun group…Peta looks the most excited we’ve seen her all season 🙂
UPDATE2: Vogue here and below are a few more photos and some of Team Girl Band too.
#DWTS publicou no Instagram#VideoLove Fifth Harmony pic.twitter.com/ERQkbVsgWe
— Portal Harmony BR (@PHarmonyBR) April 19, 2017
Team rehearsals are underway! #dwts pic.twitter.com/ligVyybtNx
— Lexus (@lindsayarnold_) April 19, 2017
This is just a personal opinion, so others feel free to agree or disagree, but I’d prefer if group dances didn’t focus inordinately on something that pertains to one person. For this reason, I’m not excited about Team Girl Group having a Fifth Harmony song in their medley. I’m fine with the theme of boy bands and girl groups, I’m just not excited about seeing one contestant featured so heavily in a dance that is supposed to focus equally on all members of the team.
Team Boy Band for me.
I do prefer it when they dance to just one song rather than a medley. The dance seems to suffer from a lack of cohesiveness and flow.
I haven’t studied it extensively, but I feel like simple routines that are cute and executed more or less in unison do better judges score wise than super complicated routines.
Not at all a fan of the girls getting 5H. Just seems like that portion is going to be focused on Normani which kind of defeats the point of a team dance. Just looking at the teams, it seems like the boys might naturally have a bit more personality. David and Rashad seem to have similar, friendly positive personalities that would be good for the team. And Nick and Bonner both seem like great, go-along kind of guys. Plus, that’s some serious choreography advantage they have.
The girls just seem like a weird blend of personalities. Not sure how that will work out. Hopefully, Artem and Sasha are allowed to get a word in about choreography because if it’s left up to the C-Bros I’m expecting meh-ness all around.
The last time they did Boys vs Girls (I think it was the season Jodie Sweetin was on, and the girls were Team Beyonce or something?) the men did much better than the women (if memory serves), so I’m hoping it goes the way of the men this time. As much as I love Nancy and Simone and would love to see them in the finale, I really want Rashad to win the whole thing. Not to mention that my disgust for the C–Bros and my general disdain for and lack of any kind of emotional connection or investment in Normani/Heather have me rooting for the boys team. My biggest worry for the girls is that it will be a lot of C Bro choreo, which will do a huge disservice to Nancy and Simone, whose pros have done very well choreographing.
I think, however, that the judges will probably end up giving the teams the same scores (barring some serious misstep from someone on either team) even though the choreography for the women will be lackluster.
Well, on technical ability alone, the girl group probably has it, but the best pros (IMO) are the females! Add to that, enthusiasm and the guys could take it! And really another 5H song, this is getting ridiculous! I’m also not a fan of medleys; just give them one song! How I wish we’d go back to the days of Team Tango or Team Paso! Anymore, the whole season is turning into a frigging freestyle! No wonder the finales have been mostly underwhelming the past few seasons!
Team Boy Bands!
The Guys have the better female pro choreographers on their team. So add the great choroegraphy + enthusiasm + the fun factor = Winner in my book!
Let’s see, I predict:
Boyteam choreo & personality collab > Girlteam collective dance ability
Another one here that’s not a fan of a 5H song on a team dance featuring one of its singers.
@Laura – The general gist of the team dances is that you’re supposed to be dancing in synchronicity, so the less complicated the choreo, the better – easier to stay in sync. However, I will say that if you can stay in sync AND do complex choreo, you will probably end up beating the team doing the simpler choreography and staying in sync. But the general rule seems to be “you’re better off staying in sync than doing flashy choreo in a messy manner”.
@Tori – The last time it was boys vs. girls, the men seemed to stick with simpler choreography done with a lot of personality – and it worked, considering that the ladies were doing much more complicated stuff (and failing at synchronicity) and also didn’t appear to be having much fun. I think the same may hold true this time – apparently the guys are all about the boy band concept, and were YouTubing moves they could do 🙂 They may not have the dance pedigree that the ladies have, but they’re invested – and I think that will carry them.
Ditto on the medleys and Freestyle stylings as well.
Another Fifth Harmony song? WTH!
Two weeks of solo performances and now this week one of her own songs!! You’ve got to be kidding me. Now I hope the boy bands really kill it!
I think the guys will likely win, just because they have the stronger choreographers. The women are overall stronger dancers, but Val and Maks will probably choreograph the dance, and they aren’t the best at choreo.
Why do I get the feeling Val and Maks are taking over the choreo for their group? UGH poor Sasha and Artem…?????? And a fifth harmony song? Let me plug my ears now….
I am looking forward to what the female pros put together for their group-I think its gonna be awesome and it sounds like the guys are having fun with it!
Am I the only one who misses Derek and Mark, especially Derek right about now? Always loved his team dances….☹️
This is just JMO, and maybe I’ve gotten way too cynical, but I think that TPTB will manipulate it such that the girls win. With Normani and Heather and their precious C-bros out on the floor all at once, I think it’s just too good a setup – the Muppets won’t be able to let it pass. Hopefuilly I’m wrong. 🙁
I’ve always thought that it doesn’t matter how weak your team is. If your pros choreograph well they can mask the weaknesses of your celebs to create a great routine, case in point Team Past last season. I’d expect something similar from the boys this time round. If the brothers try and take control of the choreography then the girls will bomb in my honest opinion. Shame really because there’s potential for a great routine like that all girls dance in season 18.
This is so unmatched.The boys team has the best pros but the girls team has the best celebrity dancers.I have no idea who will win.
I presume the key to this match-up is “girl bands.” Pretty obvious the whole season is becoming about Normani and her harmonizers blowing up the show’s social media. If they are voting in the same numbers, there’s not contest especially if the effort to wake them up last night worked. A lot of her fans appear to be overseas, which may be the issue.
To everyone saying “Not another 5H song” no one has danced to any of their songs. If y’all are thinking that Impossible counts it is not it’s actually by a solo singer Shontelle. So this will be the first time they do a fifth harmony song. I mean why wouldn’t they? There’s a pattern between the songs. they are doing old Boy band songs and new ones like one direction and fifth harmony. I hope they do WFH or Worth it they are bops. I’m rooting for my girls Simone and Mani.
Bonner & Sharna have their individual dance, a rumba per Sharna’s instagram post.
Congrats on missing the point yet again, Jazz. Keep building those straw men, boo. People aren’t upset that “another 5H song” is being used (and I think you know that), because we’re not stupid and know that one hasn’t been used yet. People think that it’s unfair that in a TEAM DANCE, which is supposed to be a group dance that gives all members equal attention, a song by one of the members of the team is being used – Normani is bound to get more attention then the 3 other women in the group as a result. And your point about old and new songs is moot.
And people wonder why I don’t have a very high opinion of Harmonizers…
I agree with the comment about the girls’ personalities being an odd combination.
I can’t see them building a camaraderie and sharing ideas. I just picture them doing whatever is given to them and keeping to themselves.
I can imagine all of the men having a laugh, testing out some crazy ideas and just making the whole thing more cohesive.
That said, obviously the actual dance ability of the girls is in a different league.
I will say this: source said one of the members of Team Girl Group seemed rather withdrawn and wasn’t really talking to anyone during rehearsal. Red flag.
Why don’t they just crown Normani the winner already? Also rename the show Dancing with Normani and Val since the show now has two Fifth Harmony song during one season alone that relates to a contestant .Talk about overkill and biases
I really hope the 5H dance in the girls’ team dance is That’s My Girl. I’ve been hoping to see a dance to that song (mostly a Quickstep) for the longest time, since Laurie was still on the show.
And if we’re gonna start talking about individual dances as well, I might as well let out what’s been in my mind ever since the theme was announced. During last year’s series of The X Factor, one of the live shows had a Boy Bands vs. Girl Groups theme as well. I’ll give you all of the songs that were done that week for that show, just to give you guys an idea of what to expect (and of what songs could be used for the individual dances).
– I’m Your Man – Wham!
– I’ll Stand By You – Girls Aloud
– Jump – Kris Kross (doesn’t quite count because they had to stretch the definition to give this rapper act something fitting for her to perform)
– Twist and Shout – The Beatles
– Hold On – Wilson Philips
– Sound of The Underground – Girls Aloud
– What Makes You Beautiful – One Direction (possible contender for the 1D portion of the team dance?)
– Say You’ll Be There – Spice Girls
One note, Bia – seems like the list you’ve provided skews primarily British. I’m guessing from what we’ve seen of the team dance songs so far, our list is going to skew more American.
Taking a guess that it was Heather Court? She got crap scores and her routine bombed, then she has to go straight to team dance rehearsals. Not the best night for her.
I’m inclined to give it to the boys since they seem to be enjoying themselves (as Deep Throat and what i think was Shad’s IG story imply) and have all the strong choreographers. HOWEVER, I wouldn’t put it past TPTB to pull the puppet strings on the judges so that all the gushing and good scoring goes to Team Girl Group.
Surprised that there’s no Backstreet Boys, NSYNC, or Boyz II Men in the guy’s medley. I would’ve thought DWTS would seize this opportunity to have past contestants Nick Carter, Joey Fatone, or Wanya show up. That isn’t to say they won’t be incorporated into next Monday some other way or at least show up in the audience, but I do find it mildly curious.
Well shit. This is probably good bye for Nancy. If the Boys win and likely they will, then usually the person going home is selected from the losing team.
For the stronger choreo factor, I have to go with the Girl Team.
@Casanova – No, no, no, no, NO! Forgive my frustration, but PLEASE stop repeating this false DWTS trope that I have to re-explain every year. There is absolutely NO CORRELATION between being on the losing team and getting sent home the next week. There isn’t a correlation between winning and going home the next week, either. STOP REPEATING THIS.
@Evangelina – Keep in mind that we haven’t seen the individual songs & dances yet – we’ll probably see some of the names you mentioned there.
I think it is wrong for the producers to use this particular theme when they have a member of a girl band and one who has been a professional back-up dancer for a singer in the competition. Of all the themes they could have pulled from a hat why this one, this year with these contestants? Even though it ‘appears stacked’ in favor of the girls I too think the guys will steal the show, at least from a viewers perspective.
I agree im not to thrill about them putting a 5th harmony song in with Normani either. Im sure Normani didnt want that either. She has already performed with 5th harmony in one of her performances and didnt get her best scores for her dance. They could have chosen another girl group. I was hoping they would have gotten a song by Spice Girls. All this is going to do is make people think that they are pimping normani when normani had nothing to do with this. I hate the producers and their manipulations.
I don’t care for the Team Dance thing.
@Courtney
Fair point (X Factor is a British show after all), but given that a 1D song has already been confirmed, I wouldn’t mind seeing at least one more well-known British group represented. I, for one, would love to see a dance to Twist and Shout; I was hoping for it to be a Cha Cha, but everyone left has already done Cha Cha, so I’d be okay with it being done as a Jazz routine too.
Bia but this is DWTS US though not DWTS UK. No one in the US has heard of groups like Girls Aloud. The only British groups that are big enough to get an airing on DWTS are probably 1D, Spice Girls and the Beatles. DWTS is more likely to have NSYNC, BSB, Beach Boys, 5H etc etc.
It may seem like the guys may have it in the bag because of the enthusiasm but the girl side have stronger dancers and they all just come together they will kill the guy group.
Since they are doing a song by 5th harmony, then I request “BOSS”. It was one of the first songs and it did really well and I think the girls could have great routine to that because it had the best choreography in my opinion from 5th harmony.
@courtney I agree teams like bindi and Derek and alfonso and Witney managed to win the show despite losing team dance ( apologies for above post press sent to quickly
I think this is more of the same manipulation we have grown accustomed to. If you vote against the girls, you hurt Simone and Nancy as well as the C Bros and partners. I wonder if they are going to do a double elimination or “immunity” crap. I have continued to boycott the show, only watching David and sometimes Nancy, Simone, and Rashad on YT. I will continue to vote against the Fam, no matter what TPTB throw out there. Oh, and I wish Derek and Mark would give us some spectacular choreography to make me tune in again.
Good god. The team dance is an indication of exactly nothing.
I hate when TPTB don’t let the celebs pick their own teams. There is less chance of manipulation and we get a chance to see their strategy, or lack there of, because of friendships that have formed.
Perhaps. But I don’ t think it is coincidence that there are an equal number of males and females left in the competition. The timing of the team dance, theme, and team assignments are also interesting given the data and feedback you have shared with us to date. The scoring from last night is also very telling. The team dance can ceertainly help or hurt a celeb when the individual profits ( or is penalized) by the score for the team.
@Courtney … sorry my bad, I don’t pay much attention to the team dances outcomes like I did when they first started back in the day.
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Think the guys will win bc Sharna & Peta r great cheos for this type of dance.
Looking at the two groups, I’d say even without knowing anything about the team chemistry the male celebs have a HUGE advantage over the female, given their comparably stellar choreography skills. With Val and Maks on the same team I foresee a lot of ego getting in the way of Sasha and Artem contributing – that is, unless the C bros check their pride and mouths at the door and allow the other two some creative input.
God this will be a hella awful. The boys have more movement to chose from. But ugh, Girl bands just bump and grind which some think is so amazing but it just bores the hell out of me.
Yeah, Girls Aloud never broke the US. The only reason a few in the audience MIGHT know of them is due to Derek and Cheryl Cole.
Kinda funny, Fig, but we’ve heard in the past that when either Val or Maks was on a team with Derek, they deferred to Derek – which makes them smart at least part of the time. But when they’re NOT on a team with Derek is when it seems like their egos might take over. We didn’t hear that part – that part is just what it seems like.
I remember Val deferring to Derek in S19, mainly because when Derek had a late night drinking at a pre Halloween party, he turned up to rehearsals two hours late and the rest of the team couldn’t do anything because Derek was the only one who knew all the choreography haha.
That’s not actually what “deferring” means, M8.
I dont understand why they could do spice girls vs BSB or nsync? Seems way better and easy to do IDC for the medleys
Hmmm I can’t really see Bonner selling the Boy Band vibe as much as the other three guys on that team but the rest seem cool. And I like all the choreographers on that team. If the brothers insist on having total control over the Girl Group team they might be in trouble. I know Normani and Simone have become friends so I’m excited to see them dance together but I’m not sure how the other two would gel with them. I would have preferred an entirely different theme with teams looking something like Heather/Bonner/David/Nancy vs. Nick/Normani/Simone/Rashad. I think those would be a better match of personalities.
Ugh…the sooner Normani is voted off the better! I’m sure she’s a nice girl but given the fact that she is paired with Val who has the biggest ego of any male pro I’ve ever seen on that show save for his brother. I just can’t like her because of Val, his lackluster choreo & that ego!!
Team Boy Band FTW!!!
I think that Team Boy Band will take this. The celebs are invested and their pro partners are much better at choreography. Like some, I’m over the freestyle team dances. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the last time we didn’t have freestyle team dances was in season 16.
Going with the boys on this one and only because of David. It did not surprise me to hear that the boys were having more fun and enthusiasm. I think that is David’s natural gift. Linds has been killing it with choreo and Sharna certainly has equal choreo abilities. And Emma/Peta aren’t exactly awful either.
I think theirs will be more fun, and with the exception of Rashad I would say the others are about equal in dance abilities. They just have
different styles.
Normani hasn’t performed ANY 5H songs this season yet…. none, zip, zero… 5H have 2 of the highest selling singles in Billboard History and it seems the medleys showcase 3 generations of groups and 5H is the most relevant girl group right now…
My god, Harmonizers have a hard time with reading comprehension…
NO ONE IS SAYING THAT NORMANI HAS ALREADY DONE A FIFTH HARMONY SONG. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS. And sorry, Richard the Mansplainer, but claiming that Fifth Harmony is “the most relevant girl group right now” is completely subjective. I’m sure Little Mix fans would disagree with you…oh wait, that’s a sore subject, isn’t it? 😉
Yet Normani HAS sung and 5H HAS been on the show for her. Keep trying – we’re not buying.
Billboard HOT 100 or some side chart? Relevant to whom? Certainly not to the average viewer.
It amazes me that these harmonizers can’t see (or want to see) the blatant pimpage of Normani and Val.
1. Normani had 5H perform for her for MMY week. The following week Normani had Donny Osmond (one of the biggest fanbase ringers in the business) perform for her. Now this week Normani and her team are dancing to something from 5H. Pimpage?
What next? Is 5H on standby in case they are needed for an upcoming week?
If anything, these harmonizers are turning off any potential new fans that 5H may have gained. That’s sad.
PH, I remember that – and I think Val also deferred to Allison/Sharna for the Nightmare Before Christmas dance, which was a fantastic team routine.
But without any truly stellar choreographers in the room – at least by a known quantity because Sasha and Artem are still somewhat unproven – and the combined egomania of Val and Maks, I don’t think there’s anyone in the room they CAN defer to.
Maybe outside help will swoop in and give some assistance, or maybe Sasha/Artem will take ownership. Or maybe we’ll get to see a hot stinkin’ mess lol.
We aren’t turning off “new” fans most of you all have already wrote her off solely becasue you don’t like VAL and the Billboard Hot 100 is not a SIDE chart it is the MAIN chart in the music business….
Her MMY was about joining the group and 5H supports her on being on DWTS so why would they not perform for her on such a special night…
Most people on this blog just find reasons to pick on her and it gets really annoying especially becasue being on this show is one of her biggest dreams.
And to be honest Little Mix is not a sore subject… they are popular in the UK and i am happy for their success there but they can’t lift a finger to 5H in the USA…
I am another person that does not care for the team dance. I think that it creates another stressor for the celebrities. I know that it can be stressful for the pros with regard to choreography, but I have started to question the stress for the pros, because I wonder how much of that is scripted for the cameras and how much behind the scenes assistance is provided.
In terms of celebrity stress, from what we have seen of the male celebrities, you have two pro athletes that compete on teams professionally (David and Rashad). I don’t know much about Bonner’s sport, but I imagine he is also used to working with a team (even though he rides the bull alone) and for some reason I think that Nick is also a team sport person. So, I think that they will work to minimize the stress and I imagine that we will see lots of cameraderie on screen.
Nancy is substantially older than her teammates, which I think will create more insecurities for her. We saw a little of that in her package on Monday and I anticipate that it will be played up next week in the footage that we see of rehearsal. Normani and Simone are around the same age as Nancy’s oldest son and I don’t think that Heather is much older. Is she even 30 yet? There are so many cliched and tired tropes about women being catty and younger women being disrespectful to older women or older women being mean to younger women. I hope that the producers avoid that kind of storyline, but I won’t be surprised if we see some of that.
Yes, Richard, you actually are turning off new fans – I was completely ready to give Normani a chance, but given how rude, obnoxious, and uneducated most of the Fifth Harmony fans I’ve encountered are, now I just hope she leaves soon because I’m tired of the Harmonizers just generally being disruptive here. Hell, I can’t even blame Val too much on this one – his choreo has been questionable and he’s being his usual smug self, but at least he isn’t wasting his time blowing up anyone that doesn’t think Normani is the greatest thing since sliced bread. You guys are single-handedly making me want to avoid anything Fifth Harmony-related, whether it’s rooting for Normani or buying their music, because I don’t want to be associated with such an obnoxious group of people.
And I’m done talking about this, so just let this sink in: if you’re so annoyed by what we say here, then why do you keep coming here? Because we really don’t have much influence over things…so why are you so darn bothered by what gets said about Normani? Insecure much?
Just to add to Courtney’s point, I am not really mad at Normani at all about this. This is on the producers, and I would be just as mad if they had a Team MLB vs. Team NFL. Even though David and Rashad are my faves, that wouldn’t sit well with me at all. I can’t really recall a time when a team dance singled out someone like this though.
Imagine if Simone had members of her Fierce 5 gymnastic team showing up in a few of her dances… And then add something related to her craft or livelihood and benefcial to her, incorporated into the Team Dance.
The Harmonizers would freaking flip.
Enough said, I’m done with it.
If Nancy feel insecure, it will be on her not by the other girls making her feel that way. Normani and Simone both respect the mess out of their parents, don’t really know how Heather is but I do know this two girls respect their mothers and the ones that raise them and will make Nancy feel comfortable.
I have no issue with normani dancing with 5H on most memorable- it made sense. I have no issue with x celeb getting the live performance vs others (producers might have picked their favourite to get the “live” performance but it was expected on my end.. and even WITHOUT Donny Osmond, Normani still would’ve done well)
Howver, singling out 5H girl group might sine the spotlight on Normani and the “leader” of the group might default to her because of this. This is entirely on producers. I mean, while you’re at it why not put in a glee song (joking)?
If you’re going to do girl/guy groups, just do all throwbacks. Ie. spice girls, BSB, beatles, destinys child. Id love that.
Richard, I happen to love Val more than Maks. Yes, they both can be cocky but Maks is def. the most cocky. I really like Val and I love his partnership with Normani. This is the best partnership I have seen with him since Zendaya because like Zendaya, Normani never complains. She does whatever val wants her too and does it well, that is why she is so good like Zendaya. Those two young girls have been his best partners I have seen. I mean he always gets good partners but those two really have a winning spirit and so positive.
I love to see young women being positive and respecting themselves. That is why I want simone and normani to be the final two. Such smart, beautiful and happy young women.
The females are technically better but the males have much better chroeo. Lindsay and Sharna are amazing (see nightmare before Christmas, with the help of Allison- who should be good since SYTYCD), Peta is good as well since she can think outside the box (see Nyle) and Emma isn’t so bad either.
That’d being said I don’t think the team dances will amount to anything. Whoever goes home wont be affected by this. It’s just fun. That’s it. A lot more fun to watch than some of the individual ones/.
My only wish is that the women don’t *&&**$ it up like they did season 22. I still have horrible flashbacks of that all women debacle.
@Molly – The girl’s Beyonce team dance in season 22 was actually good on paper, and I remember being told it looked awesome during camera blocking & dress. The wheels just all fell off during the actual live show – I think Kim got stage fright, Jodie couldn’t remember the steps, and Ginger…was typical, milquetoast Ginger. Paige was trying to hold it down for the whole team, but it was just too much.
Yes, claire I agree. I do not like them singling her out like this. Normani doesnt need no special treatment. This girl is way too talented to be pimped by the producers like this. She should not have gotten 5th harmony song for the dance team and im sure she is not too thrilled about it either because she doesnt want to look like she is being favored out everyone.
I just hope it doesnt backfire on her. These producers will never learn.
I saw several comments about how creative Peta was with Nyle. I shake my head because I saw very little creativity until the freestyle and she publicly stated that someone else choreographed the freestyle since she’s not familiar with that style of dance. The majority of Nyle’s dances had Maks’ signature on them and I have to wonder how well Nyles would have done if Maks hadn’t been at every rehearsal. Other than that, I agree in that Lindsay and Sharna are probably the best choreographers this season and should give the men’s team an advantage.
I look forward ot the team dances every season because theyre just FUN. It’s fun to see a different dynamic.
I just wish like someone said they got to choose their teams. I like seeing that process, although I also understand why they wouldn’t as it would single someone out as the “weak link”– though not always when Gilles chose the more “funny” people for his crew.
the two team dances that stood out was the all star one w Sabrina, shawn and Melissa and apolo and the nightmar ebefore Christmas one;
I agree Rose, but her teaching methods- in teaching a celebrity a dance are creative, i’ll give her that. Her choreo is good but Lindsay, Witney and Sharna (Derek and Mark too) are much better/
It would have been cool to see the boy bands and girl bands all be from the past. Boys: BSB, Boys II men, n Sync, Etc and Girls: Spice girls, destiny’s child, pussycat dolls.
Or just do team paso / argentine tango etc and not a freestyle.
Is 5H getting a show on Disney next year? I do not understand all the pimping. It might be that I had to google them – I had no idea who there are. My guess is this generations Pussy Cat Dolls without a great lead like Nicole Scherzinger. I think it will go to the boys – great choreography and enthusiasm is tough to beat.
I’m excited for the girls, and that there’s a Fifth Harmony song in the mix. I don’t think it’s a matter of being the most relevant girl group, but more a matter of their power of influence. Whether or not you know who they are, or respect what they do, they’ve broken sales and award records that hadn’t been touched in years. They’re proud, they’re unashamed of their flaws, and they work really hard. The more strong ladies the merrier, I’m looking forward to this week for sure.
Getting tired of harmonizers lecturing that everyone’s being so mean to Normani, which isn’t right since being on the show has been one of her biggest dreams. Can any of you point to where she said that prior to being announced for this season? Hmm, if it were such a big, life-long dream, you would think it would have come up somewhere, in some interview or soundbite. This was exactly the same with Laurie last season–in the entire lead-up to the Olympics, never heard her mention DWTS and then as soon as she’s announced, being on the show suddenly becomes one of her biggest life long dreams. Laurie, and now Normani, love to repeat this, and it smacks of a pat answer coached to them by Val. If anyone finds a mention of this big dream before they were announced/hinted at being on the show (and if the mods will allow it), I would be interested in knowing.
Ha! Ha! Luv seeing David with no shirt and everybody laughing and smiling!! Looks like they’re having a blast!! Can’t wait to see what they come up with!!
My top competitors are Nancy, Rashad, Simone and David so I have a mixed opinion about the Boys against the Girls, it just feels too much like a commercial for one competitor, and as much as the guys are going to have a ton of fun, the Girl group might just suck all the air out of the room with gyration and raunch and win it.
Normani has said many times that it has been her dream to be on dwts. She is a huge fan of the show. Her real passion is dance and she loves the show. She mostly post about dwts on her twitter feed than 5th harmony stuff.
Even if the women’s choreography is made easier for them to be more synchronized, they run the risk of being penalized for being too safe. And if they have tougher choreography and are not on point, they’ll get penalized. Plus, like others have said, i feel the women pros are better choreographers than the men pros. Let’s hope the men will not over think this and learn from past seasons what the judges are looking for. I agree that they should not use a 5th harmony song in their dance. There are plenty of girl group songs that they could choose from.
@Ebonypamt – The team dance is once instance where I’ve never heard anyone called out for being “too safe” – if anything, Len tends to call out teams that are too ambitious and end up looking messy.
I stand by my previous statement: you’re always better off doing simple choreography that can be done cleanly than complicated choreography that tends to get sloppy.
#Alden … Normani mentioned wanting to be on DWTS in 2014, 2015 when they performed worth it on the show, 2016 when they performed All in My Head on the Show. Her dream to be on DWTS and Laurie’s are totally different. This has legit been a dream for Normani
Seriously, calling a moratorium on the Normani discussion, because that’s all this thread has deteriorated into. Everybody, move on.
Hold up..Witney a better choreographer than Peta? Witney’s the worst choreographer on the show LOL.
In regards to the choreography situation, I don’t think it just matters who choreographs well in general, but more who choreographs well specifically for less skilled dancers, which is what the majority of the male celebrities are. Often these two go hand in hand, but I think Witney is an example of someone who has done a pretty good job when she had a good dancer (Alfonso), but hasn’t done that great choreographing for weaker dancers. The one caveat is I don’t know exactly how much of the choreography in Alfonso’s season was her own and how much was outside choreographers. I think Peta, on the other hand, did a good job with Tommy Chong and with Doug Flutie when she had him for switch-up week. Emma has done this with a variety of partners, most recently Rick Perry. I thought Sharna did well in this way with Andy Dick. Lindsay has done very well with both Alek and David, although I don’t mean to say that they are as weak as Tommy Chong and Rick Perry, just that neither are really naturals. I think the remaining male celebrities have the four pros this season who have the best track records of choreographing in a way that really helps weaker dancers.
I agree with m about the female pros – they typically have a harder gig, given that male celebs are less likely than female ones to have any sort of dance experience. On top of that, this show tends to fawn over the male pros (because of the strongly female audience) and thus the females have to work that much harder to just get noticed.
I think it’s easier to rank the pros within each season than it is to do an “all time” list, simply because I find some pros choreography to vacillate greatly in quality from season to season – I think Artem is a good example. I’d say he & Emma are at the top of my list this season in terms of choreography, but in terms of last season, I think Sharna & Lindsay were tops. The season before that, it was Lindsay & Mark.
I LOVE those pictures! Seeing Peta that happy is a relief, because I was starting to worry about her. I agree with everything you guys have said about her general state of exhaustion this season, so it is nice to see her looking so excited and happy in those shots.
I don’t even know what to say to this stuff. I, for one, have always been neutral on Val. I’ve enjoyed him at times. So my opinion has nothing to do with Val. I feel sorry for Normani, strictly because of her fans. You people are over the top. And you are the very same people saying terrible things about Bonner and Sharna and making fun of him.
I usually remain quiet about these things, but this is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. I’m sorry Courtney. I had to.
Furthermore, this show is supposed to be fun. I’m having about as much fun right now as I would be hanging from my toenails.
Not feeling this Team Girl Group just by looking at the pics-I see some side eye from Simone towards Heather and Nancy towards Normani and I can’t say that I would blame Simone or Nancy one bit LOL. I would, probably, look at Heather and Normani the same way too! ?
I just don’t see these couples meshing the way the other group seems to be…
I think team boy band will take this one! Peta is quite creative, Sharna and Emma are great choreographers, and Lindsey really knows how to choreograph well for David. All the lifts Sharna may have wanted to do she can now try with others.
I could see some ego issues for the male pros and the girls kinda waiting for them to think of ideas. Hopefully they get along and don’t just start together in the beginning and then seperate the songs into solo dances and hen meet at the end. That’s the cheap way out.
Also, every time the team dances come around I can’t get myself to forget Sharna and Nick’s team Halloween dance…this is halloween!
On what planet, Richard, do you presume to talk for non-Harmonizers? Especially since your head is so far up their ass?
All i can say is that Foxing Awesome is to this day still the best team. Their dance was just so much fun to watch.
@Fig…I agree with you that in the past with Derek on the C bros team they leaned on him for choreography; but I fear that in this girls team dance they will hog it all and shrug Artem & Sasha (who I think have been doing good choreography with Nancy & Simone);
And, that the boys team have an advantage of having 4 good choreographers. However, I think the girls having good technicality may help them. But, I have a gut feeling that the Pro ladies will use the “fun” route since some of the guys have an entertaining side to them.
It’s really a toss up for me on who I think will win at this point. It will be interesting to see all the couples dance styles and songs.
Can they replace the nancy with rashad on the girls team, then it will be perfect. He can put on wig and some heels and pretend to be lady for kicks. I just feel like Nancy is going whine and pout the whole time.
#Kreative Kat, other than Rashad who will just bang out this type of choreo in his sleep, the other guys have to go the “fun route, they don’t have a lot of choice to do otherwise due to their limited technical skill. And that will be entertaining and fun.
My beef about doing this at all is that girls are also limited by girl band choreography, in that girl bands don’t use comedy they use sex bump and grind and skimpy costumes, so less entertaining to the mostly female voter. if they can also bring some self effacing humor into their routine, they could pull it off,but that seems to be a long shot
@Valerie – “Nancy is going to whine & pout”…kinda like you are right now? No, you can’t have Rashad, because 1) he’s a dude, 2) being on the girl’s team would actually be a detriment to him & Emma, and 3) I find the statement about him “putting on a wig and some heels and pretending to be a lady for kicks” to be kinda insensitive and offensive to people with gender identity issues. And here’s a bit of a spoiler for you: someone was pouting at the girl’s team dance rehearsal – but it wasn’t Nancy.
Been thinking about this. If they are smart they will go with a GLEE like “jazz” vibe rather than all the bump and grind stuff. Lose the ego and be a REAL TEAM and let Sasha Artem and let Heather help out and make suggestions.
IF they do that it has the potential to be a fun and ENTERTAINING dance instead of a hot mess.
I don’t think Artem & Sasha take for granted the partners they have this season so I don’t see them sitting back and letting the C bros take over with lazy choreography. With that said, all the women are great but they are great in completely different ways. It will be interesting to see if they are able put something together that brings out the best in the everyone.
I wish they had assigned team captains if it would means Sasha and Artem have worthwhile input. It would have been Simone/Sasha for the girls and Rashad/Emma for the boys on cumulative scores. TPTB could have played up the fiance thing too.
@Kikki – Being the team captain means little in the way of ensuring input on a dance. It’s really just been a ceremonial role – just because a pro’s partner is team captain, doesn’t mean they have any more or less input.
I think Team Boy Band will very clearly deserve the win but Team Girl Group will be awarded the win. The gender X vs gender Y theme is bland and offensive, so I will check here for the winner (thanks for the live blogs).
Ya know, any time a woman voices a complaint or says that something hurts or whatever, OTHER WOMEN label it as “whining” or “pouting” – yet you don’t see those same people making the same comments when men complain. Low key sexism, right there.
Keep that in mind, Valerie, before you go making crap comments about it.
This whole team dance thing was about a million times better…and HARDER and more challenging…when they actually had the couples pick the teams and they had to do f#$king ballroom.
Great comments, TY all!
The NFL, MLB comparison sparked something for me.
What if the boy group was “Gym Rats” and danced to the best workout songs over the last 50 yrs or so?
And…
The girls were “Gymnasts” and had to dance to the most iconic songs used for Gold Medal Winning floor routine for the last 50 yrs including the 2016 winner’s music?
Would THAT seem loaded?
Am leaing toward they GUYS! pulling this one off. I just believe all the women Pros know their male Stars better than the 1/2 themale Pros know theirs.
oops, sorry that was “leaning”…
Thanks Courtney, that’s a shame. I guess Maks will designate himself ‘captain of the ship’ again … No fighting that dominant ego, and I imagine the CBros would say they have the experience and the mirror balls to take the lead.
@Casanova…Yes, I agree that Rashad could bang this dance routine out in his sleep..he’s just that good. The others, especially David and Nick will jump on the “fun” wagon and give it all they have into the dance.
And, yes, with the girls they have the advantage of good technical performance and also the fact that they (being ladies) can use the sexy costumes and bump and grind to make some viewers really enjoy watching.
I just think that it’s going to be pretty darn close in the team dance.
Based on the body language in the pics, I’d say it was Heather pouting during the team rehearsals. The other three seem relaxed and happy.
I think it has already been decided that the boys will win. Other than Rashad, the other ones are at the bottom, so the producers will want to give them a few extra points. But, these games MAY lead to a girl leaving (Heather or Nancy), which would be a shame because they are clearly better than Bonner and Nick. Ultimately that will be known next week since someone will be leaving tonight.
Oh, BS, Gunny. This is concern trolling at this point. You do it every week.