DWTS Season 25, Week 5 – Dancing by the Numbers!
DWTS is on the verge of boring the shit out of me once again.
Why, you ask? Well, they just seem so OBVIOUS to me. Perhaps they’re obvious to everyone which is why they’ve fallen below 10 million viewers for the first time EVER this season. But really, how many times do we have to see this scenario play out: they cast the show, sometimes with an obvious gimmick they are invested in (the Chmerlacheys) and sometimes just someone who is ABC family who they need to pimp. THEY, the producers, are invested in it for one reason or another and therefore they feel the need to pimp the crap out of it to try to get everyone else buying it as well. It DOESN’T WORK OUT, so they are scrambling. They can’t just let the show evolve organically, so they think (tragically) that they must have a Chmerkovskiy in the finale – so they go to plan B: pimp the crap out of Val’s partner. Yes, Val was actually Plan B for a change. LOL. Does it occur to NO ONE on that show that if Val was that great he wouldn’t need all that help?
It’s ridiculous. Maks has actually earned his way to the finale on a few occasions without producer help – Mel B, Kirsti Alley are two that spring immediately to mind. So why not let the boys WORK for it like everyone else does?? I kind of feel like the producers of this show are in a Hollywood bubble where they talk to each other and convince themselves that we sheep still watching this show are just too stupid to figure out for ourselves who we like and who we want to vote for. And that we’ll never see the man behind the curtain.
And, sadly, in a lot of instances they are right about the stupid. But what would happen if they just let the show evolve organically?? Derek would have 8 or 9 MBTs instead of only 6?? Maybe. But perhaps that should be a wakeup call that Derek is your most valuable asset…or he’s a liability. He’s become too big to be a pro. Stop using him for your own agenda and screwing his partners over. Don’t wait until he says “fuck it” and leaves on his own. AND DON’T TRY TO RECREATE HIM in pros who don’t have a fraction of his choreography/teaching talent and who still haven’t figured out how to work DWTS. Derek was not pimped to be the best pro ever on this show – it just happened. He walked on to the show and stole the spotlight from a certain Ukranian. So what would happen if they just let the pros be pros and work their butts off? Well, I imagine that right now Lindsay, Witney and Mark would be a LOCK for the finale, and possibly Emma as well.
But can you honestly say that any of those three are a serious lock for the finale when suddenly Victoria and Val are getting 9’s (10s this week I’m sure) for dances that can’t even touch what Mark, Lindsay and Witney are doing for their partners? Which of these pros is going to get well and truly screwed out of a place in the finale, eh? None of them should be. Mark is doing the best work of his career on DWTS – in any other environment he would be a lock for an Emmy nomination. Every week he gives his partner something brilliant to do and she does it with a joy and light that permeates the entire dance. She’s a breath of fresh air. Frankie is an actual delight this season – not a trained dancer, not even the best dancer, but you watch him and you can’t help but root for him and hope he does well. Witney is doing right by him, giving him dances that make me happy and work for him. And Lindsay? This girl is overdue for a MBT. Yes, this season she has an amazing partner who may not connect with some – but he works for me and their dances have been first rate. Then there’s Emma who’s dancing with someone who is 6’4” tall – a tall order (haha) for anyone. Someone that tall is tough to get dancing properly and she’s doing a great job. Including Jonathan in their jive was a stroke of genius – that’s called playing the DWTS game. Knowing what it takes to stand out in the field, recognizing that the best dancer doesn’t always win, and working the show to the advantage of your partner.
These four pros and their partners deserve to be the last four standing…but why do I think it won’t work out that way? Because the producers have decided that we can’t have nice things. They get the shakes if they don’t have a C-boy in the finale. Why? Mark Ballas starred on Broadway, Emma won last season and the world didn’t end, Witney and Lindsay are pretty popular in their own right…what the ever-loving hell is wrong with letting the show evolve naturally???
Ah, screw it. Rant over. For now. What does the damn leader board look like?
We have Jordan, Frankie, Lindsey and Victoria as our top four per the judges scores. One of these dances is not like the others; Victoria’s dance I found to be boring. But I’m not a Disney person in any case. It was low energy, simple and not even close to in sync like the judges were desperate to claim. Totally over scored. Was it over scored because she isn’t getting the votes, or over scored just because the judges are creating an arc for her? Who the hell knows.
In any case, it seems pretty simple this week in that there is a good break between the top tier scores and the bottom tier scores. There’s a full two points between Nikki/Victoria and Drew/Terrell – not saying that’s how his should be, just how it IS.
As a result of this break and the vote totals needed, I think it’s safe to say that Jordan, Frankie, Lindsey, Nikki and Victoria are all safe this week. Nikki is kinda getting hosed every week, but this week I think her score is high enough to keep her safe. The vote totals are just working in her favor.
In trouble? The Chmerlacheys for sure, along with possibly Terrell (although I kinda doubt it). Nick is at the bottom of the leader board and he has some work to do.
As you can see, Nick needs about 7,700 more votes per million votes cast to stay over his wife. Is it possible he does? Sure, but I tend to think it’s unlikely. Maks beats Peta in the fanbase department, although Nick beats Vanessa in the fanbase department. I just think that people who watch this show (the general audience) are more likely to go Vanessa – she seems a bit manic, but she’s a decent dancer. In another pro’s hands she might be in the running to go to the finale. I have to say…I feel very sorry for Vanessa. I liked her a lot at the beginning and then some kind of shit went down with Maks. And sorry, Maks fans, but he has a responsibility to make this show a great experience for his partner, regardless. All pros have struggled with this from time to time, but Maks takes the cake. He hasn’t realized, after all these years, that he’s not the star of the show. Why this is hard for him, I don’t know. Anyway, Vanessa seems like she was the one who was gung ho to do the show and now the experience has not been great, thanks to her partner. And honestly, that’s very sad. So many people talk about what a great experience DWTS is, yet you get the wrong partner and it seems like it might be a nightmare. I can’t help but feel for Vanessa.
Anyway, Nick also needs about 11,500 more votes per million votes cast to get past either Drew or Terrell. I really don’t see that happening; both Drew and Terrell seem like audience favorites to me, at least for now. Drew is Property Brothers – which I’m mildly obsessed with – and Terrell really seemed to have a huge breakthrough in Week 4. I don’t know how long that will carry him considering the rest of the cast, but I think it helps him this week.
To sum up, Nick needs ONE of the following to be safe this week:
- Nick needs about 7,700 more votes per million votes cast than Vanessa, OR;
- Nick needs about 11,500 more votes per million votes cast than either Drew or Terrell, OR;
- Nick needs about 19,200 more votes per million votes cast than either Nikki or Victoria
And so on up from there. I can’t see him making any of those vote totals, but I could be wrong. If he beats anyone, it will likely be his wife, Vanessa. I will be surprised by any other outcome. What about Vanessa?
Hmmmm….Vanessa only needs about 3,900 more votes per million votes cast to get past either Terrell or Drew. That is not a lot. It’s a tiny margin, actually. I don’t think I see it happening. But if she were to get more votes than either Terrell or Drew, Nick would need to get the 11,500 more votes per million votes cast than one of them for one of them to go home. And I don’t see that happening.
Because of that it certainly seems like Nick is going to be the one going home. I don’t think he beats Vanessa and he certainly doesn’t beat Terrell or Drew. It’s plausible he could be Vanessa, and for the “DRAMA” of it all they will likely put Vanessa and Drew in jeopardy together. Even though I called that happening a week ago. 😉
I’m going to quit belaboring this and say that Nick is the one going home. If I’m drastically wrong (i.e. it’s someone other than Nick or Vanessa), I’ll do a post mortem on Tuesday or Wednesday.
What do you think?
I 100% agree with your four finale picks. Hopefully TPTB don’t screw with that, but unfortunately, they just might.
I totally agree it has to be Nick leaving. However it concerns me that the producers would push for Victoria and Val over Drew and Emma in the finales. Especially that Emma is the reigning pro. Not that it should mean anything but that their dances are so much more entertaining than Victoria and Val. Besides it is starting to get to me that every dance seems to reflect on Victoria situation. I thought you have to earn the spot in the finals because of your dancing, not your story. I really don’t think that anyone is coming close to Lindsey and Jordan and they will more than likely be the last ones standing for the MBT. My money is on Lindsey and Mark!
LeannC, It’s not really a dance competition, it’s a dance show. I agree Drew is far more entertaining than Victoria, lets hope he has as many fans in the voting demo that we think he does.
Jordan has to win, he is the biggest front runner in my mind I can ever remember, people need to vote, I seem to remember Hayes a few seasons ago having millions of fans yet never made the final, I know he isn’t anywhere near as goos as Jordan but I hope people don’t just assume he’s safe each week.
Likewise Drew. He could be a dark horse but people need to vote. I would love to see Jordan, Lindsay and Drew in the last three in that order.
Just hope TPTB don’t over produce, just let the public decide what happens for once.
I’m also going with Nick finally going home this week. If anything I feel like possibly Vanessa could go home if he does not, just because her dance was not memorable at all. I agree, don’t know why the producers have to make things difficult and pimp certain pros and celebs. I kind of gave up on wishing certain couples to win when they are up against the C bros because you already know they won’t beat them. If producers let things flow on their own than Sharna would have won her well deserved mirrorball with James instead of Val. As much as I want Lindsay to get her mirrorball, I have no high expectations because the show ends up going in different directions all the time, especially by semi finals.
100% agree with you PH in regards to who the final 4 should be and the fact that more than likely TPTB will try and push Victoria into the mix and bump probably Drew more than likely out in order to make room for her. I’m hoping they aren’t successful and that Drew’s cross connection with the demo from DWTS carries him into the finals. There is no doubt in my mind that Mark, Lindsay, Witney, and Emma win the best pros this season award. All have done so well with their partners and have made them stand out in a good way. As you said Mark has arguably done his best body of work this season with Lindsey. Witney.. I have never been a big Witney fan but man is she doing a fantastic job with Frankie and their partnership is bound to go down as one of my faves from the show ever. Emma is just so smart in how she handles things and knowing how to make her partner look his best and Lindsay is good at the same thing. All of those pros have made their case for why their celebs should be in the final 4. But TPTB don’t really care about that.. sadly. Would be nice if they let things happen organically without manipulation for a change. If they had done that in past seasons I think Sharna would already have her first MBT with James. I’ll never not be bitter about James and Sharna not winning.
As for who goes this week.. There is no doubt it’s one of the Lachey’s. I have never seen a full press release with all the info but people said there is only one elimination. I still think it’s possible they spring a surprise double elimination at the top of the show Monday, I feel like they’ve done that before in the past or am I wrong on that? If they do spring a double I think it’s the Lachey’s. They’ll throw maybe Drew or TO into the bottom with them, maybe Nikki. Or maybe throw someone really shocking like Lindsey or Jordan in but then announce them as safe and then say it’s the Lachey’s going home. Get’s one last story out of the married couple shtick and makes it less awkward for Maks/Vanessa in terms of a single elimination having to do the rounds for interviews. If it’s a single elimination I’m leaning Vanessa. While she is the better dancer, she doesn’t have the fanbase coming in that Nick did (which has some cross over with the demo), she had a pretty forgettable performance last week, and she’s got a winning combination for a high scoring dance this week that could have her going out on a high note.
While Nick isn’t a great dancer when I think back to the Disney Night dances I remember his. Was it great? No. But Peta did some cute choreography that made it memorable. When I think of Vanessa’s dance I literally don’t remember it. I remember it was Snow White, but I remember the package with the 7 dwarves thing better than I do her dance. I may be shocked and it’s Nick sent packing in a single elimination but I don’t feel like they would give Nick a western Samba as his swan song dance. And not to try and compare between seasons but Nick to me is like the Bonner of this season. A really not that great dancer that has made it based on his good looks/boybander past. And Bonner knocked out some way better dancers because of his appeal to the demo. I mean Nick’s already done it with Derek,Sasha and even Debbie, all were better dancers that should have outlasted him but didn’t because of his appeal to the demo. Wouldn’t be surprised if Vanessa ends up suffering the same thing.
If it is a single elimination Monday and the double ends up being the next week then I think it’s safe to say it’ll be TO and whoever of the Lachey’s doesn’t go home this week. Then after that is when it’ll start getting tough.
While I enjoy seeing some of the dances I’m glad to know that others are bored and annoyed with the nonsense too. TPTB have not only enabled the C Bros to phone it in but continually sacrifice harder working pros in order to give them a win. Is it any wonder that with a few is becoming a yawn. Why would someone want to bust their butt time after time only to watch someone be rewarded for doing far less?
Kudos to the ones like MarK Lindsay Emma and Sharna who have CONSISTENTLY stepped up to the plate, worked hard, and produced great dances.
I have one small consolation for the aggravation that TPTB give me with their Val luv. How much do you figure it’s eating at his jealous soul when he hears literally everyone, even Tom and Erin, comment on how much Mark’s creative choreography was missed!
I know I went, “What the bloody hell?!!” last week when Len said something about appreciating Maks’ lack luster VW choreo until I figured that he has probably already been grousing about the Mark worship.
So Nick basically needs to make up roughly the same amount of votes to get past Vanessa that he needed to get past Sasha last week. It wouldn’t surprise me if he did it to be honest.
@ Colleen, I honestly don’t think Val has a problem with Mark’s praise as much as he does with Derek’s (not saying that you made that comparison), but to me it seems like Maks is the one who has an issue with Mark and the show’s praise for him more so than Val. Val seems to get along with Mark from what I can see on social media. Everyone knows Mark’s niche is in creative out-of-this-world productions/choreo. so I don’t think its anything new for Val to be jealous of. If it were Gleb or Artem being praised to that extent, then I could see Val getting all hot and bothered, but I think Maks (due to his tenure alongside Mark and history) gets jealous over other pro choreo praise because maybe he feels like he hasn’t been able to grow as a pro after all these years choreo-wise? Who REALLY knows? But, I’d rather see Maks in the finals than Val for sure!
I agree with most of everyone and I am over Val and Victoria and their pimpage. I thought Victoria would be interesting to watch as I personally know someone who has a similar story, but hasn’t recovered yet. It gave me hope to watch her for my friend. But, her kindness and excitement rings a little awkward with me like her relationship with Val is kind of aloof and “follow the leader.” Val feels like he has THE winner in his hands and is doing more than just competing on a tv show, but he seems to be trying TOO hard to display their relationship on social media as Derek and Bindi’s for example. (Does that make sense?)
Agree with Nick leaving this week (HOPEFULLY)! He promoted his Christmas album, did some media this past week…so its all good in the hood for him to be eliminated. If he is overly praised by the judges this week, then maybe it’ll be a sign as a nice sendoff for him. Still voting and supporting TO and Cheryl. They are funny, TO is definitely growing as a person and dance wise, and I really like how Cheryl is coming out of her choreo rut that was kinda apparent a few seasons ago. Enjoying her choreo this time around.
Remember it’s Maks show (out of Maks own mouth)…. And once that mindset was put into his head (and little brother Val) all chances of Maks and Val growing and improving on the show were gone forever. It’s actually quite sad.
Sometimes the looks on their faces when another couple does well is telling. You can’t always see it but sometimes it sticks out like a sore thumb.
I agree 100% with your rant PH. It was to the point and absolutely true. I agree with the top 4 also. Honestly, the idea of Victoria being shoved at us front and center so they can get Val to the finals, because it is all about him, gives me a massive headache and a feeling of nauseousness. This show has been and can be enjoyable without having Val and his partner of the moment shoved at us. His dances are no where near the level of what Emma, Mark, Lindsay and Witney are doing each week. And I remember reading this in a previous post, and I agree, the dances for Maks, Val and Peta seem shorter than everyone else. Is that because they actually are or is it because we’re so thankful it’s done?
What would be nice is having Maks, Val and Peta ALL take the next season off. The show will go on and will be much better without them and their sense of entitlement. If one had to stay, let it be Peta. Maks and Val think they are all that when it comes to this show and they’re not. If I was someone approached to do this show and had a say in my partner, I would insist on anyone other than those two. I would want to have fun and learn as much as I could, and with either of them, that’s not possible.
Sasha deserved to stay over Nick. No, she wouldn’t have won either, but she was better than he is. Her problem was Gleb. Maybe it’s time to replace him. Bring Sasha back or Alan.
I fully expect to the see Nick and Vanessa in jeopardy together. TPTB are thinking what drama! The suspense will be unbelievable! Nope. I think a lot of viewers would be thankful and think at least one will be gone and hopefully the next one follows in a week.
The numbers definitely make a Nick elimination likely, but I’m going with Vanessa. Vanessa was one of my favorite contestants early on, and even when Maks was giving her crap choreo she danced the hell out of it. Last week, though, was not good. Not only was the dance a struggle, but she seemed miserable and completely disconnected from Maks. Nick at least looked like he was enjoying himself, and I think his fanbase advantage over Vanessa is significant.
Right now I’m three for three in the last eliminations, so maybe this is the week I guess wrong, but I’m picking Vanessa, with Nick in the bottom with her for drama.
Honestly, I’m torn about who I want to go, because I want Vanessa to stay but I can’t handle another week of the Maks/Vanessa tension. If I had my way Nick would go and Vanessa would be reassigned to Alan.
I’m, actually, beginning to wonder if the Chmerkovskiy family has some sort of stake in the show and that’s why, for how many seasons now?, it seems as if one of them MUST be in the finale, whether they deserve it or not. I know I sound silly lol but jeez do the producers play these games season after season just b/c they hold the Chmerkovskiy name and they come with their fanbases? Maks has left for some seasons but even without him, God forbid baby bro doesn’t make it to the finals?! It’s as if there’s an unwritten rule in their contracts stating that one Chmerkovskiy will, no matter what, make it to week 10, win or lose in the end. It’s so ridiculous, it’s nauseating….????
Nah, Jordan isn’t the biggest front runner ever. Two much better contenders for that title, just off the top of my head, were Meryl Davis and Mya. Both had a lot more dance training, but only one of them won.
Possibly, M8, but I’d been saying that Sasha was going to be a relatively early out for some time – she was just a non-event on this show and she was partnered with Gleb. Vanessa has had some decent dances and she has Maks.
Either one of them could go, I just don’t know if Nick can make up the difference.
I think that, for some reason, Val doesn’t see Mark as a threat to…whatever. Whereas Derek IS a threat. Derek’s on another level, while Mark is still on the same level of Val (this is in Val’s little mind). It’s almost like this mentality of Mark suffered in Derek’s shadow just like Val did – so he doesn’t get jealous of Mark, he congratulates him because he made it out of the shadow. There’s a kinship there, almost. You see him congratulate Mark when something good happens for him, yet not a peep to Derek when something good happens for him. It seems very obvious to me. They’ll go see Mark, yet walk out when Derek is going to perform his Singin’ in the Rain number.
And that’s enough of my psych minor analysis. 🙂
It seems that all shows need a antagonist and that has always been Maks for DWTS. I remember him saying it was his show even when Derek was competing. I thought the judges comments to Mark were interesting and I think they were giving him a big hint to win when they said they were happy to see less reliance on character and costuming and more on the dance. I’ve felt that way about Mark for several seasons. The Powers problem is that Jordan is a much better dancer as well as having a lot of charm as does Frankie, Drew and now TO. So Mark and Lindsey need to really have a blockbuster dance to make a serious move for first, but I do think they do have a lock on the top 3. So, in any order Nikki, Vanessa, Nick, and Victoria go. I’m really hoping for a double elimination.
I was going to write something about how they are dealing with Derek, but it is confusing. It’s clear that loyalty is important because the people who cross over to SYTYCD are rarely invited back to DWTS. Dymtri, Chelsie, Louis… I wouldn’t hate it if Melanie left and Derek took over as choreographer.
Emma is really doing amazing this season. She got Drew through a Rumba week two that no one had high expectations for without looking totally stiff, and the jive she choreographed fit Drew’s height. I think any other pro would have had immense trouble with him.
I’ll admit that Jordan is a better technician than Lindsey. However, I don’t feel that Lindsey is that far behind. And whatever technical flaws she has, I think she makes up for it with her spirit, performance quality, and being demographically-appealing. So to me, I feel that Jordan and Lindsey are equal frontrunners, whereas on other sites I frequent, I get the vibe that Jordan is viewed as the sole frontrunner, the one to beat.
And for me, the jury is still out whether I prefer Mark’s body of work with Paige (which IMO was outstanding) or what he’s done so far with Lindsey. I feel that Mark has been more conforming this season, but the content, quality and level of choreo and dancing he’s been able to produce with Lindsey have been quite high. In Season 22, I felt that Mark displayed a higher level of creativity and his dances with Paige had bigger impact week to week. However, we still have 5 weeks to go this season, who knows what will happen!
@R2M
I agree with you about Emma and Drew. Drew has really grown on me and is my personal dark horse (I actually prefer him to Frankie).
Was more information released about the Maks/Vanessa drama? It seems like most of the blame is being placed on Maks in the article. All I’ve heard is that Vanessa was complaining about Peta and more stuff, but I could be misinformed.
At this point it is hard to believe they could eliminate anyone else to keep Nick on the show, as everyone is way better than him and everyone seems to agree on that. He is the only weak link left on the show and the only one still getting 7’s at this point. I’m on the same page thinking it’s Nick that is leaving if not then Vanessa then Terrell which I think is unlikely but in the realm of possibility. Nikki was able to get back up from a week or 2 ago but it seems like every week she is on the brink of elimination unless she really brings it. If Nick leaves, then I’ll be really excited for the team dances as there will be no weak links and we could have a great duel. I also agree that the idealistic final four and probably most deserving would be Lindsey, Jordan, Frankie, and Drew. I also agree, as we have seen in the past 1 is always cut short of the finals which will likely be Frankie or Drew in favor of another couple which will likely will be Victoria. It’s a shame because both Witney and Emma have been really delivering this season. I like Victoria but the other 2 have been working really hard and have had such memorable dances. I don’t think they will meddle that much with the final 2 if it is Lindsey and Jordan because Mark hasn’t won since season 8 and Lindsay hasn’t won yet. So at least that part will most likely will be free of meddling.
I do think Nick will go this week although it seems he’s having a better time with Peta than Vanessa is with Maks. I’d definitely like Nikki to stay around as long as possible and I’d love to see Frankie in the finals.
I really like Victoria. I think she’s so positive and has great energy. I do connect with her but being with Val hasn’t served her well and I wonder if some of it is because he’s a bit preoccupied with his great love for Jenna. As for Peta, Maks and Val, I think the take being on the show for granted. My partner and I bought tickets for the tour tonight and I was reminded that Val isn’t in the cast. I wonder if it’s about money or something else. I thought he had something happening with his court case in January. The tour certainly didn’t suffer this summer without him.
Jordan, Lindsey, Frankie to me is a locked three. I can’t see that being troubled no matter how much meddling takes place. They can however do something about who finishes fourth and it seems like they’ve set their stall on pushing Victoria or even Vanessa should she survive next Monday.
Has Val got some role in DWTS junior? Could that be why they feel the need to pimp him to the latter stages of this season? When the winter tour cast was announced, I think Val said he has something lined up in the spring – there’s a book release in March (I nearly threw up reading an overview of it), but my first thought was some involvement in DWTS junior. Or maybe it was big bro TPTB initially wanted but his petulant behaviour changed their mind so they’ve snapped up little bro instead?
Agree that it will be one of the Lacheys – I was reading Facebook comments on both Vanessa and Nick’s dances from Disney week and they have been pretty brutal ; seems many people are sick of the married couples and want both gone. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s Vanessa who goes – she’s getting the blame, on FB at least, for the tension in their partnership and being called a diva that Maks has to put up with.
Happy if the F4 is Lindsey, Jordan, Frankie and Drew. I’d love Nikki in there as well but not at the expense of those others. I want Lindsey/Mark to win, but imagine if Emma pulled out the back-to-back win, what the reaction of a certain pro would be…
@Kikki – I just looked up Val’s book it’s a Memoir…. LOL! I wonder if Val will include him fat shaming a Downs syndrome little girl on social media.
He wrote a book?! Oh my goodness what can this man write that would possess anyone to buy it to read it??? I just find that absolutely laughable and absurd! ???????????? I mean look anybody can write a book nowadays about just about anything but what does he have to say, about himself, that we don’t already know? He thinks he’s gonna share some personal wisdom with the public? Ha! Ha! Yeah ok sure ????????????????????????
@Anonymous – I know right. I about spit out my coffee with laughter when I read that. 🙂
Val wrote a book? And it’s a memoir? I agree @Anonymous, it’s laughable. It started my day with a chuckle. I know he has fans, and that’s fine for him, but personally, there is nothing that man can right that I would have the least bit of interest to read. I have better things to do.
Book title suggestion: “Pimpage”….how to win 2 mirrorball trophies without trying…
Come on guys, any other suggestions??? We can have a blast with this one…
Oh the titles one can come up with!! ???????????????????? There could be a contest predicting what the best title of this crap ass book could be LOL Sad part is I bet his book will make $$$-there are less crappy books out there on the market making enough bucks and it’s true, he does have his fans….???? To each their own I suppose?
Gee, JHM, I’m sure none it has to do with Maks LOOOOONNNGGGG history of trouble in general. At some point you have to open your eyes. As for the rumors you’ve heard, perhaps you need to step away from the Chmerkovskiy fan echo chamber.
Bottom line: he’s supposed to be the PRO. He has a responsibility and was hired to do this job.
Gee, color me shocked that Facebook is a den of mysogynistic fangirls. :::rolls eyes::: How typical. The woman must be the diva…when it’s been obvious for years that Maks has plenty of diva tendencies of his own. Apparently it’s forgivable in a male. Who isn’t even the celeb.
Book title suggestion: “Let me help you – I am very wise.”
Good One, PH! How about, “Living in Derek’s shadow” or “As the Mirrorball Turns..Bluffing, My Way”
@Princess Heidi Ha! Ha! Luv it! ???? Luv everybody’s suggestions! Making me laugh guys!! ????????????
Sad news. Shawn Johnson suffered a miscarriage. Her pregnancy journey is up on Youtube.
My sister endured years of infertility so I know how painful this issue can be for a family. Fortunately for my sister she was able to adopt 2 lovely children. Adoption is great.
LOL…love “Living in Derek’s Shadow”…cuz that’s what I thought when I heard about the book. Next he’ll try for a guest spot on Nashville, film a TV Pilot, choreograph for Buble…
Victoria
I haven’t been around that long, Meryl & Charlie put the show on my radar so don’t know much history. But I wonder, do most celebs with recognized serious physical disabilities/stories make it to the finals? I know Bonner B didn’t. I say “recognized” because Chris Kattan, for example, brought his own story of a badly broken back forward rather than the show featuring it; it seemed so obvious that it was disappointing to not have it mentioned next to Bonner’s injuries. Victoria is such a bright and shining person, she’s surely garnering loads of votes. As did Noah and Amy. Makes me think she’ll be in the finals because of it. She’s not getting the choreography that Noah and Amy did, but she’s got an incredible story and a huge smile.
Mark & Lindsey
Mark is amazing. This season he is on fire. He did say in an interview (apologies, don’t remember where but it was early on and he quickly changed the subject) that he watched for Emma and Rashad last season and learned some things about how the show works which he is using this season. He and Lindsey are lovely together, and he has her dancing beautifully. It’s not quite as showy as Jordan is with Lindsay, but I’m unable to look away from Lindsey and Mark on the dance floor. Top two, for sure, and right now top of the top for me.
Jordan and Lindsay
They are fun to watch and clearly having a blast. Fun to see Lindsay able to go all out. I’ll be shocked if they don’t make top two.
Emma and Drew
I have so enjoyed watching Emma with partners who can showcase her work; what a treat to see her with many more options. I’ve learned some about what she was able to do with less able partners, looking back, having seen her skill with Rashad and now Drew. They are having so much fun that it’s fun to watch them. I sure hope that they keep her on board for a good while now.
Frankie and Witney
What a pair. They too are having such fun, and he’s is a delight. It’s sure hard for me to pick a 3rd or 4th from the current lineup.
Nikki and Artem
Nikki looked gorgeous in that blue dress! Artem’s hat, however…. She seems to be coming into her own more, and Artem is having some fun. His work makes me wonder about his own sense of this as a show vs a competition. He’s won Strictly. But that seems like a very different show, with a greater focus on style and technique. The pre-dance clips for contestants aren’t as in your face and personality driven, either. Maybe they actually want to see how things play out organically… tho personality clearly matters to the voters there too of course.
Terrell & Cheryl
Someone here said to never bet against Cheryl, and she’s certainly demonstrating why. Loved the bit after their Disney dance when Erin asked which NFL coach Cheryl compares to, and he said Parsells. When he turns on the charisma he’s dazzling. Seems as if Cheryl, and the show, are bringing together the public and private sides of him.
Vanessa and Nick
I have a hard time remembering their dances. Their warmth with each other is sweet, and the clip with Nick showing up at their front door with signs that say he knows she’s unhappy with her scores but she’ll always be a 10 for him was cute and made her cry. It’s too bad when the best part of a dance is the clip with the Maks dwarves beforehand. I wonder if each would have been better with another partner, though Peta seems like she’s trying while Maks seems checked out.
Gleb
I’m one of the people who liked his work with Anita Rani on Strictly, and some of what I’ve seen from his work on the Russian DWTS with Adelina Sotenikova (2014 olympic ladies figure skating gold medalist) on youtube and much of it is gorgeous. He hasn’t lived up to either here, and I wonder why. He said that his wife helped him with choreo for Jana. Is he getting other help, here? Has he gotten better help elsewhere, or does better on his own and is being overly helped here? It’s too bad, either way, because he’s wonderful to watch dance & his celeb partners seem to really value his friendship.
I haven’t gotten one right yet, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Terrell is eliminated tomorrow. Just have a feeling Nick still has enough support to go another week. I’m so disappointed they’re pimping Victoria the way they are too because it looks like their games are starting to work on the sheeple. Those nines were pure strategy.
Haha, love these title suggestions!! Mine would be “Humble and Proud of It” The Inspirational Val Chmerkovskiy Story … I always think that whenever he feels the need to remind people how humble he is. I’m surprised it’s coming in just over 250 pages – thought it would be very long book considering how much he lacks a filter loves and to talk about himself. Must have a great editor! Wonder if he will release it as an audiobook too haha. It contains his poems as well – oh this is too much! Anyway, I’m sure there’ll be plenty available at the DWM studios.
on Gleb @QuandMeme – he’s said in other interviews that he defers to Elena for his choreography and she comes up with the ideas. Then I watched the ET interview in their home a few days ago and she said how she also directs his photography shoots for his underwear collection, maybe his calendar as well. And her comments about being so proud of her handsome husband, makes me think that the problem is she is focussed more on highlighting him rather than the celeb in the dances. So without her input on DWTS Russia as I’m assuming being a judge, she didn’t help, he created much more interesting dances with Adelina.
@Kikki – If that’s true.. Gleb needs to fire his wife Elena. Maybe Elena choreographs lighter choreography so things don’t heat up as much on and off the dance floor.
Oh boy, We could start an entire column on funny titles for Val’s book.
@ Sandy – Elena came up with the shower tango and told Jana to seduce her husband, so I doubt she minds that Gleb being portrayed like that. I think the problem with Sasha is they couldn’t really go the sexy route with her, so there was nothing. Sasha looks a bit like Elena, almost like sisters in some of their instagram stories and posts. So it was like Gleb dancing with a little sister… And last season with Erika, one of their friends who is a dancer/producer also helped with choreography. Beggars belief that it took 3 of them to come up with that body of work.
Oh if you want another laugh, there’s a hilarious review on youtube of his calendar (two women compare his 2016 with 2017 calendar). I watched it and it is so cringey. There’s one photo of him reading a book, wearing singlet and undies. Face looks good (I admit he is handsome) but c’mon Gleb, put on more clothes!
Well at least Val hasn’t gone the calendar route!
@Kikki – I vaguely remember that dance with Jana. See that is the problem… Gleb’s choreography is not memorable enough. His time on the show has been “meh”. jmo.
I just saw MORE Maks apology tour on People online. It says that there’s never been a problem between Maks and Vanessa, and trotted out the “company source” who spoke the “official word” about how well they get along… Which made me think she’s in danger of leaving.
Don’t keep trying to pull the wool over viewers eyes, we’re more intelligent that that.
With declining ratings and yet another attempt by TPTB to have things go according to their plan, I have to wonder if DWTS Juniors will really happen. What sponsor would want to invest in a second train wreck of a reality show? More curious, would anyone trust a Fam member with a new show when Maks, in particular, has a history of personality issues with various partners? Seems like a particularly risky venture to me.
#Sandy so sad to hear about Shawn Johnson-that’s gotta be tough to go through-I’ve dealt with own issues battling infertility myself before my kids were born although never a miscarriage-but I feel for the girl ????
Anyone really want to see Val need look no further than the IG he posted yesterday calling the scantily clad women at the Maxim Halloween party “basic bitches.” Not the first time he has referred to random Hollywood women that way she so I’m thinking it’s more of who he is than his fans will admit.
@Rose1, how disgusting. The man is insensitive and has no class. He’s not a good choreographer either so why do TPTB insist on keeping him?
I’m hoping too that there will not be a DWTS Jr. I personally have no interest in watching it, and don’t see the point of it. They don’t need an excuse to have DWTS only once year. If that’s what they want, then just do it.
I’m having a good time reading all of the suggested book titles for Val. It’s nice to start the day with a laugh. I can’t come up with anything as good as what has been posted. The only one I have, and I hope it wasn’t posted already is “My Way or No Way”
When it comes to social media one would think that Val had learned his lesson. I guess not. What a loser.
@ # Gunny – IMO, I think it may have held for awhile about not crossing over to SYTYCD, but this year’s pro’s and troupe include several who have done so, including Emma, Sasha, (Jenna and Witney (as All Stars, but not this last season for Witney), but most of all Val. He did choreography for three dances in the first few weeks of the latest SYTYCD season, one group number with Mandy Moore. And Mandy herself moves between the two shows with ease as a choreographer.
I suspect, but don’t know, some DWTS cast members have it in their contracts that they can’t, while others do not.
With all the drama surrounding the C-bros, the people I think who are getting hosed in it all are Vanessa and Peta. Vanessa really seemed like she wanted to get out there and have fun, but all I can see is a miserable result. As for Peta, she’s not my favorite pro, but I think she does solid work and she tries to support her celebs. She’s done it with both Nick’s she’s been paired with this year. And she took Nick V further than I thought he’d go with less pimpage than her husband. You can question her taste in men all day, but she’s not a complete slouch in her choreo. If Nick put in a little more effort, they’d be in the race with everyone else and her choreo wouldn’t look as flat as he’s making it.
@Rose1, I did not hear about that. That is absolutely disgusting.
Rose1 – I saw that Val quote over the weekend as well. He claims that he has to dumb down his posts and make them sexy for people to read and then he calls out women who dress sexy as basic bitches. Hypocrite much?
Please let Nick, Vanessa or even Terrell go home tonight. But if by some stretch of the imagination it could be Victoria – I wouldn’t be mad.
Sharna was another one who was churning out some respectable choreo too and, though Derek likely didn’t have longterm voting power, I’m still salty they were sacrificed at the (quite literal) Chmerlachey altar as there were at least 6 couples I’d rather had left before them…
…ANYWAY, I was thinking (okay, more like doing a lil elim jig to the glitterball gawds) that we’d be rid of a Lachey tonight, but from the way Vanessa & Maks non-gel is not gelling with the masses, maybe leaning more toward them than Nick. Terrell is my third guess.
@KDSR – Agreed – I think Vanessa has taken the brunt of the hosing, as she did seem really, really excited about doing the show. I don’t think Nick really cared so much, and only agreed to do the show to make Vanessa happy, so he doesn’t seem to be too disappointed by anything that’s transpired; I think Maks checked out of DWTS 3 1/2 years ago, after he won with Meryl. As for Peta? To me, she still seems like she’s in the same headspace as she was in season 24 – post-childbirth, I just think her priorities have changed, and maybe DWTS doesn’t hold the same excitement as it once did for her; she does seem to want the best for her partners and puts in effort – MOST of the time – but these past two seasons, I just get the impression she’s being taxed to exhaustion by outside factors (last season it was a newborn; this season it’s the emotional turmoil of Chmerlachey) and it seems to hinder her reaching full potential week after week.
At the end of the day, I’m just hoping both pairs get eliminated soon – because not only is it not fun for them anymore, but it’s kind of miserable to witness as a viewer.
What did he call scantily clad women? At a Halloween party? Where I would assume there would, naturally, be women dressed a little less inhibited-it’s a damn costume party for Christ sakes! And was Jenna with him? Cause if she was how the hell was she dressed? I, highly, doubt she dressed like a nun! That comment against women PISSES ME OFF!!! ???????????????????????? I’m kinda surprised-I never read of him speaking in such an insulting way against women-TRUE COLORS….????
I also think Nick or Vanessa most likely to go, with an outside chance of a shocking elimination. No specific celebrity in mind, I’m just looking at that spread, 8 pts between first and last is not that big. Once Nick goes (if he goes), the rest of the celebrities are capable of scoring in the mid 20s or higher (they all have some potential), so the top of the leaderboard may never be safe this season.
Val’s comment pisses me off. What a self-righteous, egotistical, jerk! I remember Val and his insecure sibling being given a chance on DWTS to showcase their tour. What did they do? Position a woman centerstage and move her legs to a fully spread, open position while seated on a chair. Scantily clad women at Halloween? You jerk bastard…are your parents alive? Did they teach you to behave like this? I highly doubt any parent would condone your behavior…unless, of course, there was something not right about them, too. Thanks for letting me vent..beyond disgusted, and hoping we never have to look at his face on tv again.
Rant over, above. The last comment I will ever make on the subject. I will NOT give him more minutes of my time to play into controversy needed to promote his activities. The wrong people benefit from my time.
Peta, Jenna and Sharna (and Victoria) were all dressed sexy as hell, so I don’t know what the hell Val thinks he’s talking about. I think he’s the one who’s the basic bitch.