Dancing with the Stars Season 25, THE FINAL FINALE (Night 2) – LIVE BLOG
Well, it’s the finale. Time to sit through 2 hours of crap to find out who wins the shiny Mirror Ball trophy. Good luck to all the contestants.
One note – the person dancing last on Night 2 of the finale has won the MBT SEVEN of the last ten seasons. I’m hoping the comments won’t become an ugly place tonight. None of these contestants deserve that.
Love the opening bit with Len. He’s so funny…and did I see a bit of swag.
Robert!! Yum. But producers…this show is NOT about Val and Maks, so spare me please.
Lindsey being a pep talker in the BTS footage. Frankie too, it appears.
Hey!! I want a sleigh!! How come Tom gets a sleigh??
Like the female pros outfits here, the red ones. Very cute.
Time for the favorite dances round. Lindsey and Mark up first with their Jive.
Aw Lindsey – you’re so cute. And that Violin kicks ASS. And really, if Piers Morgan tells you you’re not good enough, you’re probably on the right track. 🙂
Still love that jive. 🙂 Mark was hilarious there at the end, in particular.
Agree with CAI – she does have a special kind of star quality.
Lindsey gets a 30 as expected. I expect all three contestants to get perfect scores tonight, barring disaster.
Robert!! :::fangirls hard:::
Scary story about Frankie’s accident. Sucks to not be able to do something you love. He should be really proud of his work this season. BRIAN Cranston.
If they get Lin-Manuel for Jordan I may pee my self.
Great job by Frankie redoing his argentine tango!! He does seem to prefer the intense dances – makes me think that Witney’s instincts were right. She knows him after all.
Judges are giving him a bit of a rave.
Len: “Quick kick up the cod piece” LOL!!!!
And Frankie gets a 30 – also expected. I imagine all dances will be perfect tonight, barring a serious fuck up.
Not terribly impressed with Kelsey Ballerini. She’s alright I guess.
Jordan up next with his redo dance. So we’re 35 minutes into the show and they aren’t doing too bad so far in terms of keeping the filler crap to a minimum. I expect I’ll regret saying that.
Ahhhhhhhhh….Lin-Manuel Miranda!!! My other favorite man, ‘sides Derek.
Fantastic dance from Jordan and Lindsey – Lindsey looking exceptionally hot this evening. 🙂 Would love to see Lin-Manuel on this show, but it will never happen.
We need to get this finale moving…all this lusting after Lin-Manuel and Robert is making me even more tired that I was before.
Well, I guess it’s equal opportunity bump and grind these days? Not terribly impressed. I know it’s possible to dance without it being a bump and grind.
Whoa! Lindsey’s fusion outfit was stunning in that brief glimpse I got.
I liked Vanessa’s dance a lot more this time than I did the first time around. She pretty much killed it.
Lindsey Stirling up next with Becky G.
Go Lindsey!! That was pretty excellent! I’m going to have to get her CD. And Robert…..
Debbie, love ya, but your’re a bit too peppy for me at this point.
Okay that was kinda awful. Jordan and the ladies are making it look up. Dang, Hayley is double jointed.
Yep, Jordan rescued that whole segment.
Lovely segment in the Children’s Hospital followed by a lovely ballroom number at the Grove.
Great seeing Drew, Jonathan and Emma’s “trio” dance again. 🙂
Lindsey up with a Tango/Cha Cha fusion.
That was fun and pretty damn good. I expect them to give out 10s to Lindsey and Jordan, but I’ll be curious what they do with Frankie.
And Lindsey gets a perfect score.
Frankie up next with a foxtrot/tango fusion. I think Frankie has been a real growth opportunity for Witney. That’s pretty valuable.
Frankie not as clean as Lindsey but he’s a workhorse – he practices a shit ton and when he doesn’t have that time he’s not going to be as clean.
He’s not getting a perfect score, after Bruno talked him down a bit. Makes me wonder if he was in first place – hence the scoring of the redemption dance. That said, his 28 is certainly fair compared to Lindsey.
Lindsey looks stunning yet again – that pink dress is amazing.
Okay, completely hiding Barbara behind all the guys was both awkward and necessary all at the same time. Ye gods.
Jordan up last with Salsa/Paso Fusion.
That was a stellar dance…did is seem short?? Or was it just the salsa part that was short? Anyway, well done.
This has been one of the better finales in recent memory. Not toooo much crap, all the finalists are lovely people who I enjoy. Great show.
Couldn’t agree more with CAI on how Jordan has allowed Lindsay to grow – well done. And yes, based on that Fusion it’s safe to say that Jordan is the best male celebrity this show has ever seen.
And a perfect score of course. 🙂
Nick Lachey. Um, okay. Cue awkward part where all three finalists just stand there.
Oh boy, Jordan is gunna cry. I can see it coming.
Whoever edited this VT did an exceptional job – or perhaps it’s just the contestants this season that makes it so much better?
Okay, I expect we’re going to get third place right now.
THIRD PLACE: Frankie and Witney
Congrats to Frankie on a great season and a shit ton of personal growth. I so appreciate him – he’s really what this show is all about. Well done.
Almost time for bed….!!!
AND THE WINNER IS…..JORDAN AND LINDSEY!!!!
Congrats to Jordan and to Lindsay and Lindsey and Mark for some fantastic dancing and a great season.
Postscript – you would think after 25 seasons they would learn how to time this show so they can talk to the winners and runners up, for the love of god.
A little birdie told me that Val and Jenna are gonna do a dance together tonight, so everybody get their barf buckets ready. One thing I won’t be looking forward to. Only 6 minutes to go. I have my popcorn, wine and chocolate ready to go with some of my DWTS buddies at my house. Should be fun.
Getting excited Like many have said this is the first finale where I’ll be happy no matter who wins.
Way fun opener!!
Loved the opening. the toys r us by me has one like that but it doesn’t run just for photos
Loved the opener, especially going back to the opening song. Not so much a fan of the Bump & Grind in that last bumper, though.
And lots of dances, please.
Mark and Lindsey- Jive This was one of my favorites from them so I’m glad they repeated it. Score is no surprise I suspect it will be much like last night
I forgot all about Sharon and piers being on America’s got talent. Not gonna say I miss them. Anyways…Lindsey killed that jive and I think it’s a great way to open the show. For some reason I thought they would have gone with their Disney week dance (I figured all three would actually)
That opening number, to me, looked similar to last fall season’s ????
Honestly I too will be be pleased with either of the three winning although I have a feeling Jordan’s gonna win but we’ll see…
I’m too exhausted to watch the whole 2 hrs tonight though and I got too much stuff to do-we’ll see if I make it to 11pm eastern standard time ????
Loved Frankie and witney! They had me crying with that video though. kelsea Ballarini sounded good but could have lived without Jenna and Val. Emma and Sasha…would have been better in my opinion. Can we get her next season? Please 🙂
Loved jordan and Lindsay. Derek and sharna and tom? Heck yes. That’s how u come back from a break.
I can’t deny he has talent and I know that I’m supposed to be in awe of Jordan but he just hasn’t been IT for me and I’ll be disappointed if he wins over Lindsey and Frankie but with him dancing last I don’t think I’ll get my wish…
What was Jordan’s repeat dance? (It’s funny…I haven’t found a live comment indicating what he actually danced! LOL)
If I had those abs I’d never wear a shirt but I don’t and live in NYC so more pizza for me I guess 🙂 . These bump and grind routines are killing me.
Vanessa and maks were fun but Lindsey and Becky owned that grove stage. That was so good!
#12 Repeat dances
Lindsay & Mark Jive
Frankie and Witney Argentine Tango
Lindsey & Mark Samba
oops JORDAN & Lindsay Samba
Debbie and Jordan sounded great but Sasha and Nikki were the icing on the cake. I could watch that in repeat all year and smile. Love how they visited the kids. Makes me want to up my game…only 300 from the R2D2 for charity this year (counted today…but it’s the American cancer society this year so hopefully the cure). But I digress: Victoria and Val were good too. Her best I think.
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE Erin’s dress. That blush tone is very flattering on her. Loved Mark and Lindsey’s jive. Her dancing is so joyful and I just love watching her.
That look on Mark’s face when they were introducing the trio round. He doesn’t think they will win. Not a good sign that they’re going first?
Sorry I’m behind you guys. The show has just started here in AZ. There are those that will not agree, but I loved Frankie and Witney’s AT. I really enjoy the flair and emotion of it and their music for the dance was spot on. Will probably be one of my all-time favorites.
Ok so my jaw is off the floor now but lindsay and Mark were amazing. 10z easily. This season is my favorite in recent memory becuase of the comrodiary between the couples this season…with the exception of keo and Barbara and Vanessa and maks…but Lindsey and Mark just make each other so happy and it shows 🙂
As I said in the blog, marintx, seven out of the last ten seasons the person dancing last on night two wins. He’s not dancing last. And it doesn’t take a lot for someone like Mark, who’s been around forever, to put two and two together.
Been trying to watch here and there-LOVED Lindsey’s violin routine!! She truly is a talented artest!!
Not gonna lie-not a fan of all the holiday crap filler-call me a Scrooge ????
The fusion dances are great so far-the judges scores aren’t surprising me though-I think, pretty much, every finale, brings out the 10 paddles the most LOL
Just tuned in now because I can’t sit for two hours and watch filler. Thank you to everyone who runs this website for everything you do!
Frankie and witney make me smile. Just something about that pairing makes me happy. Same for Jordan and Lindsey. This season is just incredible.
Voting online was as easy as it usually is for me
Good Luck everyone
With tonight, I think Jordan has received 8 perfect scores, the most of any celebrity!
From Len, no less: Jordan is the best male celebrity ever on the show. That is not an accolade easily earned!
And he can sing also.
What a journey for him and Lindsay, regardless of who wins.
He actually has 9 perfect scores! Best male contestant ever. Very deserving of the MBT
This seado has been delightful. It is reminiscent of seasons when Derek was on. I have no idea who will win between Lindsey and Jordan. Whichever one doesnt win i will be disappointed for them. The are both deserving.
Did anyone notice Lindsey was the only one assigned a ballroom and a Latin for their fusion? Frankie did two ballroom and Jordan did two Latin.
And Jordan and Frankie are both going on the tour – should be some nice dances.
Wonder if that’s a preview of 1st and 2nd?
Between the two couples I’m hoping for Lindsey and Mark but if Jordan and Lindsay win I won’t be disappointed. They both are amazing and have grown so much over this season
Congrats to Jordan and Lindsay!
And what was that about an all athletes season(?) of DWTS? Did I hear Tom correctly?
Maybe someday a woman will win and have such a easy victory and get 9 perfect scores like Jordan.
So sad for Lindsey, she deserved this.
Jordan was a ringer, a huge one and this win only proves that America likes ringers, just not the female ones.
Happy for Lindsay Arnold and all her outstanding work, but really bummed for Lindsey Stirling and Mark. I loved them just as much!
Well that turned out pretty much as expected. Congratulations to Jordan and Lindsay. Feel bad for Mark as I will be shocked if we see him back as a pro again; although I thought that before and I was wrong. But, much like Derek, with his music career picking up, he may be putting DWTS in his rear view mirror.
So happy with the results!!!!!!!!!! Hooray for Jordan and Lindsay!!
So happy that we didn’t have to deal with Val’s BS during the finale!!!
So happy with his season!! So many happy vibes ! I liked almost everyone!!
Loved your final line on the live blog. Haha. Seriously, all they need is a couple of extra minutes!
Witney’s making me laugh with the rolling eyes and huffing and puffing face???????? she made when Tom announced her and Frankie in 3rd place LOL
Nice to know both Frankie and Jordan are doing the tour together-good for them! That should be fun!
And Jordan is crowned this season’s mirrorball champ!!! ???????????????? Well-deserved for both him and Lindsay!! ???? Honestly Mark and Lindsey are no less winners in my book as well! Both couples did extraordinary this season-all three couples did actually-this was a perfect finale!!
I am VERY disappointed with the results but I never seem to get the winner that I want lol
Super happy with the results. And I can’t wait to see Jordan on tour Jan 9th. ????
So did Tom say, super fast, that the 4 wk spring whatever? is with ATHLETES? ???? Hmmm ok…..
Anyways all those who celebrate a Happy Thanksgiving! ????????
I want to say CONGRATULATIONS! to Lindsay who now has a MBT.
I always felt from the first few weeks that it was your turn and some people do vote for their favorite pro.
My favorite was the runner up, and her remarkable Pro partner. Good Luck to you Lindsey Stirling and may this experience and recognition advance your career. At least it gave you a chance to show the world, Piers Morgan wasn’t correct. Your amazing!!! In another season, who would have won!!!
I’m very bummed for Frankie, he was my absolute favorite all season long!
Beyond happy. I love all three of them so I’d be ok with any of them but jordan is such a nice guy and I’m so happy. Lindsey has a mbt!
I absolutely agree with your postscript – after all that work for over 10 weeks they could not take one minute to congratulate Lindsey and Mark for treating us to a great season. That’s an absolute shame. I felt so bad for Lindsey and Mark. They spent more time with the third place winners. Naturally, Jordan would be joining the tour. When I saw that I knew he was the winner.
I just wish that Mark receives an Emmy nomination for his work and possibly win one. He so deserves it. I doubt if we will see him again on DWTS. Wishing him much success in the future. Possibly another musical on Broadway!
I dare say that Lindsey benefits tremendously from being on the show, win or lose. No need to feel sorry for her – from 10 million subscribers to many more. She gained a whole new audience, I’m sure. Jordan as well – and he got Lin Manuel Miranda in VTs. 😉
A little disappointed with the outcome as I was rooting for Mark and Lindsey, but I’m still happy for Jordan and Lindsay. Well deserved win for sure. It was a really fun viewing season. Next season should be very interesting to say the least.
Thank you to Princess Heidi and Courtney for hosting this site. It is a wonderful place to share opinions with other DWTS fans.
Best wishes to everyone for a safe and happy Thanksgiving.
Yes, Anon – four week season with all athletes. We might have to have a game guessing the pros and their partners. I have to think they’re going to go with all previous contestants. But who knows.
Also, forgot to mention…I voted but it would not take my votes. Before I knew it, Tom said it was closed. I didn’t like this part of the voting at all! But, I really don’t think it would have affected who was already winners.
Don’t feel too bad for Mark. If anyone is likely to get a nomination from this season, it’s him. His stuff is just out there enough that he could score one.
That said, it will be extremely difficult for anyone from DWTS to get one.
Nah, Jordan was a ringer, but certainly not a “huge” one. There have been much bigger ones, for sure.
It is a huge mistake to equate numbers of perfect scores or scores in general with how good a contestant is.
Or do you think the judges are always right??? Hell no. They have agendas all the time and they over and under score contestants to serve that agenda. For that reason, you can’t use scores to determine who’s the best.
That said, as I said on twitter, he is the best MALE celebrity to ever be on the show.
Don’t forget Vogue, Cheryl!! She hasn’t been around as much due to family issues, but she’s an indispensable member of the family!!
It wasn’t just Lindsey, Leann – they didn’t talk to Jordan either. Ridiculous.
@PrincessHeidi very interesting-4 weeks with only athletes-I suppose we’ll have to wait for more info re. the logistics of this mini-season? But ok-I’ll be curious enough to watch it come spring time. Although I’d be even more eager to watch it if Val or Maks have nothing to do with it-but why do I think that’s asking for too much? ????????
So incredibly happy….didn’t think they would win until a certain vibe I got from the judges comments tonight. So happy for Jordan but especially Lindsay! MVP of Pros for sure the past several seasons.
I too agree…wish they would cut something out to talk to the winners and runners up like they used to.
It really was a great season – the partnerships, especially the final 3 made the season one of my favorites in the history of the show. That special something about each one of these partnerships is why people still love this show! Congrats to all 3!
Thanks to the mods again as always for making a season of DWTS even better.
Well, needless to say, not really surprised. I like Lindsay and happy that she is happy she won, but she was lucky to get one of the biggest ringers in DWTS history as her partner. Kinda feel sorry for Mark, but it seems his music is getting more and more recognition, so I guess he can take that as a consolation prize.
So, the DWTS mini season is gonna be all athletes. Maybe that means it will be more of an even playing field, but than again, maybe not. Who knows with DWTS. Sounds like this is still in the planning stage, so I guess we will learn more in the following weeks ahead.
All athletes mini season – I wonder if it will be former contestants or all new ones? Seems like 4 weeks would be develop all rookie dancers into good dancers! Will be interesting for sure and I’m much more into this idea than in the Jr idea!
I think both Mark and Lindsay have a shot an Emmy nod for their work this season. But, like it has been said, I think DWTS very well may come up short completely this Emmys due to heavy competition with not just a great season of SYTYCD but also World of Dance. That is a lot of stellar work to narrow it down to just 5-6 nominees…..
Very happy Jordan and Lindsey won, and I’m really happy that Frankie and Jordan will be on tour. I’m also happy they brought the top three forward rather than just the top two. But, who is watching the clock? I like at least 30 seconds of watching the celebration. I’m okay not having the interview because it is usually a repeat of what they said a minute before, but I like seeing everyone gather around the winner. Finally a talented Disney kid wins. I was a good and essentially a conflict free season…
I agree with you Heidi about not speaking to Jordan either. Why fill time with Barbara who can’t dance to save her life. Or bumpers unnecessarily filling time and not leave a few minutes to actually congratulate the winners and runners-up. I just felt it was very rude and disrespectful.
Looking forward to seeing them all on GMA tomorrow morning.
I HATE GMA…that’s why I would like to see them talk on DWTS.
Although I’m happy to see Lindsay receive the recognition of winning because of her skill and talent as a pro, I’m disappointed by the results. DWTS is supposed to be a show where we see the journey of a pro teaching a celebrity inexperienced in dance. I wouldn’t call Jordan inexperienced in dance.
I wanted to see Lindsey and Mark win because she was so excited and worked so hard to learn how to dance. Mark did well by her as a friend and teacher. Mark really can’t catch a break on this show and is really under appreciated. He lost the season (I think) he should’ve won with Paige because she was unfairly labeled with the “previous dance experience” status. Yes, I did understand and appreciate Nyle’s audience appeal, but he wasn’t the best dancer.
Back on topic…there is no rhyme or reason with this show. One season a celebrity is punished for having dance experience and the next season it doesn’t seem to matter. I feel for the celebrities who don’t know how to perform ballroom go up against those who clearly have an advantage. It’s even more unfair when contestants (like Drew) have to deal with the judges’ less than enthusiastic comments because he is being judged and compared to someone like who is dancing at Jordan’s level.
I think this may be it for me with DWTS. For different reasons, this show isn’t as fun or innovative as it used to be.
Thank you Princess Heidi for reminding me of Vogue. Still a little new to this site, but I never want to forget anyone. Thank you Vogue as well for your insights. I truly appreciate all of you.
I had not heard that they were thinking of doing the abbreviated season with just athletes. Well that should be interesting to say the least.
I had forgotten that Jordan was a Disney star. Should make ABC very happy after all these years. I hope the success of this season renews people’s interest in the show. While just my opinion, for me in a field of television reality shows that consist of just a lot of people behaving badly, it is nice to be able to enjoy an evening with a show that features real talent and is fun for everyone to watch.
I’m thrilled for Lindsay. She’s definitely earned it. I’d go so far as to say that she’s grown every season: she managed to take three guys with basically no dance experience to the finals, so I’m not surprised she knocked it out of the park when she got someone who really can dance.
As far as Emmys go, I think that the most likely dance to get one might be Marinda Davis’s from Monday night, although Mark’s freestyle or AT might just squeak through.
Lindsey and Mark went the extra mile this season so I’m sure it stings a little right now, but they’re both so blessed with their careers. I have read many comments by DWTS fans who are going to her tour (not that she was wanting for fans) and Mark and BC opening for her is such a great opportunity. Great for the DWTS and their tour that Jordan and Frankie are available too. In the big picture I think it all worked out.
Gonna laugh if a C bro winds up front and center on GMA tomorrow.
And someone please make Robert Roldan be a ballroom expert STAT!!!! He would definitely be the hottie that DWTS needs!! Val who??!!
I loved the last 3 couples so I truly enjoyed the finale!! But why does Jenna get so much camera time?? CHampion pros like Sharna and Cheryl should instead!!
Since Mark is unlikely to do DWTS tours anymore, does that mean he will never win again?
I have no idea if media promotion has any impact on votes, but I imagine it can’t hurt. Lindsey and Mark only started traveling and touring these last 2 weeks. The eight weeks before that there would have been plenty of opportunities for them to make appearances and interviews, but the show just didn’t care.
Happy for Jordan and Lindsey, and as she mentioned during the season, credit to Mark for teaching/mentoring her. He has to take satisfaction in seeing someone he trained do well. I also wish that there would be more time at the end to see the celebration. After 2 hrs, it’s a rip off and anticlimactic to abruptly cut off the season!
Didn’t watch until the last ten minutes haha. Tour will be lit with both Jordan and Frankie. Congrats to all of them. Especially to Lindsay, she’s deserved her mirrorball for her work not only this season but for a couple of years now, similar to Emma.
Wow what a great finale and end to this fantastic season! I have come to appreciate all 3 couples for different reasons and truly thought that the right 3 made it to the finals. Lindsay did a great job choreographing each and every routine for Jordan and I hope now that she has won she continues to keep up her momentum with her next partner. She just seems so positive and happy and works well with any partner she is given. All season long Jordan was wanting to win this season for Lindsay, and he did. Jordan was consistent for the whole season and I think it was well deserved. I voted for Lindsey throughout the season but I can see why Jordan won and all his and Lindsay’s hard work paid off.
Lindsey and Mark were also deserving of the win too and I also see them as winners. They had some really memorable and awesome dances this season and I think both of their careers are really taking off. I didn’t know who Lindsey was before the season, but so glad I discovered her music and she just seems so genuine and kind. She is so talented and her performance of her new christmas song was a highlight of the finale for me. Some of her songs have even made it to my Spotify playlist. I’m also happy for Mark because he has been doing well with his music doing well and his career taking off. I really enjoyed this partnership because it just seemed like 2 friends having fun and creating routines together. They were about the experience and if this is truly Mark’s last season, I think he went off on a high note. Now Lindsey will get to relax a little and be able to concentrate on her tour!
I was also pleased to see Frankie in the finals because he was truly the underdog of the season. Week 1 I never thought he would make it this far. And even though not all his dances were 10’s, I appreciated that he put in everything he had to continue on in the competition. His partnership with Witney was another one of my favorite partnerships on the show and I think even may be my favorite Witney partnership. I think Witney really grew as a pro this season. I think this was the first time since season 19, that we saw her really invested in a season due to Frankie’s determination. And he will be one I will remember in seasons to come even though he didn’t win.
Overall I really loved this season as whole, and in my opinion was much more competitive and entertaining compared to S24. There was little meddling and it kind of felt reminiscent of the old days to me. Sad to see the show go down to 1 season a year, but now they will have to get really awesome casts to make up for it. I’ll have to look around for some other dancing shows to fill the void in the spring aside from the 4 week mini season.
Well, at least the ratings stayed up for Monday.
Yes, I’m a little bummed that Lindsey & Mark took 2nd. His choreo was special in the first half. He captured Lindsey’s energy & charm so well. And their AT was amazing! They did have a dip for semi’s, but pulled it out nicely on Monday I thought. Apparently not nicely enough.
I came to really appreciate Frankie during the finals. Just caught nuances that were not there for me before. And his encore Tuesday was solid. He’s done well by the fans that supported him.
I’m still mixed about Jordan & Lindsey. Their best dance for me was the trio and that was partly due to Corbin. Even after 10 weeks and a lot of work I still did not connect to him. I kept thinking of Karina getting overly pressured to give Corbin more advanced choreo because he was so good and capable. Too many ideas or tricks/lack of cohesion & flow. I got the committee car feeling from Jordan & Lindsay’s freestyle as well. Just too much stuff jammed into one dance and nothing really stood out for me except the tense look on his face.
Oh, well. Will sleep on it & watch again later this week.
Just bummed…
Thanks to the Mods & everyone else for informing and sharing again this season.
Leigh, keeping you & your family in my prayers. So sorry for your loss.
Thanks so much, Heidi and Cheryl! So appreciated and sorry for my absence this season. My Mom will still needs a lot of care, etc., but, it’s not so intense now as she’s doing better and has joined the land of the living (or should I say “dancing”) now. xxxx
Ah…congrats Jordan and Lindsay!! My gut feeling at the beginning was right. Jordan would win this season. I wasn’t sure yesterday though ????.
You know it’s kind of funny. All that nagging from the cbros about “never won before” now backfired. Next in line will be Artem, Sasha, and lastly Alan. So Val can take a seat now since he already won 2. Artem and Sasha, you’re next! ????
So true Carol. I felt the same way about Jordan’s dances. Way too much accorbatics! I enjoyed their first dance the best. No tricks, flips, jumps, etc. just pure dancing. Unfortunately for me, none of their performances really “wow” me. Let me say congratulations to all three couples.
Although I’m not angry about the results, I’m still a tad bit bummed Linsdey and Mark didn’t win. Oh well…c’est la vie. Life will go on, the sun will still rise, the birds will still TWEET(although he SHOULDN’T–but that’s a story for a different day 😉 )
Thanks Heidi, Courtney and Vogue (plus John/Charlie–the man behind the screen so to speak..lol) Did we lose Lori?
Y’all make this glittery sparkly dance show bearable to watch! LOL! Enjoy your Holiday season and a well deserved break! Merry KwanChristmakuh to all!
Lori is here too when she can. She sends me stuff I miss and she is all things Julianne too.
First and foremost, huge thanks to the mods: Princess H, Mz V, Courtney, John, and Lori for doing an amazing job yet again. I couldn’t tune in live to the show unlike before, so my this is my go-to site then YT for the videos. I don’t comment as often as I did before but I check this site regularly for DWTS updates. Truly grateful to you!
I loved this finale. Feel-good one, just like season 17. Loved all the finalists for different reasons. I rooted for Lindsey and Mark, hoping that Mark would earn his 3rd MBT. But not disappointed that Jordan and Lindsay took the win. Glad that Frankie and Drew reached this far. I hope that we will have more finales like this.
To those celebrating, happy Thanksgiving! May it be a good and safe one.
Okay, even though I felt the result was predictable, I’m happy with it. I’m glad Lindsay finally got her first mirrorball. I personally wanted Frankie to win, though. He’s been what this show is all about. Oh, well. At least he gets to tour.
And Vin, I agree with you on getting Sasha and Emma instead of Val and Jenna for Kelsea Ballerini’s song. The former gets WAY less screentime than the latter, for obvious reasons. *rolls eyes*
Thiana, I agree with you too. I want to see some other male pros finally get a mirrorball. I bet Artem wants a companion to go with his 2010 glitterball from Strictly.
That was obvious and more than expected by everybody. No surprises anywhere. But like I mentioned yesterday and Im sure others thought the same, Frankie could’ve come in second. Nice that it didn’t happen. Sad for Mark and Lindsey, but I never got the feeling that she could win this or that they were as popular or connecting that much.
I wanted Mark to win again, but nowhere in the last few weeks did it ever become a possibility that Mark and Lindsey could be anything else but 2nd place after Jordan, a perfect winner, was just killing it with his amazing partner. Huge congrats to Lindsey for her work and her mirrorball.
The show has gotten Emma and Lindsey out of the way, I can imagine them turning back their efforts to get Sharna a mirrorball now, which they tried to do before. Or keep Mark around with another great partner and hope he can get a third, which was their clear intention this year.
Nice opening, nice graphic with the 10s and the HoHoHos.
We still don’t know when the show comes back right? Hopefully Mark is back next season.
Just read about that athletes season. What?
And forgot to write the usual complaint: The Winners are….the show ends. We barely even get to see them celebrating. I hate every single reality show that does this. I’m not asking tor a Survivor type of finale, but common, let us see!!!
What a happy ending to an enjoyable season (at least the back half)! Jordan and Lindsay’s win was well deserved. Many congrats to them! Frankie gets to prolong his experiences with the tour! Yay! And then Hollywood, won’t you cast him in something again so I can watch him on television regularly, please. And I don’t think Lindsey and Mark are greatly disappointed. A win for them would have been lovely too but they had a season to be proud of.
My personal hope for next season: maybe a seasoned Pro who’s still there who hasn’t won yet to win like, Artem, Sasha, or Sharna. Specifically in that order. Nothing against Sharna, but out of every female fam member I would say she’s probably the most humble, and therefore could be patient enough to wait a la Kym Johnson. I just think Artem deserves a win now.
@Nick.
I’m looking forward to the All Sports DWTS mini season. Not thrilled about the shorted timeframe but my first thought was, I’m ready for this kind of change up. Maybe a more level playing field for once.
But then reality set in! First, only 10 contestants. So what pros are dropped? Dear lord I want Maks, Peta and Val to stand down but I know they will include Val for sure, know they will ask Peta and Maks so they’ll only be out if one of them finally realizes that they have been only partially invested in the last several seasons. So what pros will compete?
Val, Maks, Gleb, Artem and probably Keo. Maybe Alan if Maks stays out. But what if Mark Ballas is available and willing? And Sasha will be screwed again!
Lindsay, Witney, Peta and Emma are all MB champions and will probably be asked. I can’t see them not including Sharna. So no Cheryl and no callbacks or surprise pros unless they screw Emma or Peta takes a season off.
And what about celebs. All of the woman have worked with ball players. And that’s likely what they’ll book for them. But where will they cast the female athletes? An ice skater or gymnast for Precious? And what about big bro? So much for an even playing field!
The Kelsea Ballerini song with Jenna and Val was all kinds of “do not want.”
But I’m very glad that Lindsay got the MBT – I’ve loved her work since Wanye and feel like this symbolizes some of the respect she was robbed of at that time. Will also be nice to see Jordan the champ on the tour!
I agree with #84 Artem deserves a win !!!! IT’S A shame that when season 26 comes back in the fall we can’t have a longer season Your normal shows get 26 weeks, why can’t dwts….
Well, if the writing wasn’t on the wall as signalled by the dance order for the evening it surely was obvious to all by the new voting immediately after Jordan/Lindsay finished their set-apart-from-the-other-2-contestants “fusion”-allowing-lifts. Prime manipulation to have both Mark and Whitney have to fuse dances not allowing lifts one after the other and then let Lindsay break out her as-many-lifts-as-possible-not-fused-at-all “fusion” let’s do some Paso moves and then do a salsa – after all of the commercial time and 3? other performances by ‘the Troupe’ have wiped our memories of/delight in the first two Fusions. And, by the way, you have to vote immediately and really fast or you won’t get a vote at all – no time to refresh any memories, or to think. Just react to what we just saw – the flashy, fast non-fused paso/salsa with lifts. Egregious.
To whoever put forth the idea that the female pros have a harder time winning than the male pros – the split is as even as can be in an odd number of seasons, and setting Derek’s 6 wins aside, more female pros have 2 wins than do males. Or count Derek’s 6 – there are still more double female pro wins than male. Cheryl, Julianne, Kym, and Peta all have 2 and Karina, Whitney, Emma, and now Lindsay each have one win, while Derek’s got 6, Mark has 2, Val was given his 2, and Alec Mazo, Tony, and Maks each have the one win. Doesn’t seem to me that the females are at a disadvantage because ‘female stars are more likely to have dance training’… To my mind – the win goes to whichever pro gets/has the right combination of personal charisma, ability as a teacher, ability to choreograph to their partner, the right mix of competition in that season, and the right mix (or lack) of producer manipulation in that season, along with a compatible celeb partner with personal charisma, trainability, physical strengths, work ethic, strength of mind, musicality, perhaps some prior movement training, and producer support. Derek has been spectacularly successful because he has such a high level of the attributes to make his partners into great dance performers that he was able to overcome obstacles the other pros haven’t (Major producer opposition, in more than one win!). And the majority of his partners had no dance training, including the majority of his winners… Doesn’t say much for the theory that the male pros have that advantage over the females as far as going all the way to a win…
Love having this forum to read and think about – and many thanks to the mods for doing it, and to the many fans who think and care about dance. I’m not a dancer – I’ve learned almost all I know from watching DWTS and reading about and watching it, although I did do a show choir for 10 years, with ‘choralography’, starting in my 40’s. It took a few years of learning the moves to pieces we’d learned to sing first (so no movement for most of the learning period) before my mind/body could pick up movement with any quickness at all – so I understand how earlier training in coordination of movement, whether it be dance itself, ice-skating, how to run down a football field or basketball court can be of extreme help in the beginning stages of dance in general, ballroom in particular. But all of the other factors seem to play much larger roles in becoming a winner on DWTS… One really needs a good teacher, and the female pros just might be better at teaching, in general, than the males (Derek and Mark aside.)
I was all in for Mark and Lindsey, the whole season, and I still feel that Mark’s choreography combined with Lindsey’s personal style and work ethic beat the pants off of Lindsay’s reliance on Jordan’s prior training and flashiness. Being given the gift of Jordan as partner the season seemed Lindsay’s to lose, and I feel she almost did. Lindsay’s choreo never did hit the highs that Mark and Lindsey delivered week after week, that Whitney hit several times with Frankie, and that Emma hit with Drew. Lindsay seemed to make a “Fast and Furious” of DWTS the whole season, while Mark, Emma, and Whitney made different movies every week. And that is what is great about DWTS – all of the different stories told by each couple, each week, through dance. (I dunno, but I wouldn’t (Emmy) nominate a ‘Fast and Furious’ over Whitney’s creeper contemporary, for example, or Mark’s Dr. Strange Argentine Tango.) I can’t think of a single Lindsay choreo this season that was a great story. That disappoints me.
I love the show, and I miss it mightily when it’s off air. Seems like it’d be possible to do a full season some other night than Monday if they’ve got too much Bachelor stuff on Mondays – I’M not tied to Monday… Maybe they’re afraid of low ratings while the Winter Olympics are on – but that’s pretty silly – to take one of the top shows off for a season because some other network might have something good on for a couple of weeks… And I’m not a business person, by any means, but the production/business gyrations this show goes through have never made much sense to me, even when looked at logically through the eyes of someone who has performed (singing, but not on TV) all my life.
I know – it’s a reality show and not a real competition – there is no real prize for winning – but the competition is an important part of what makes it popular, and watched, and the manipulations of every sort just make me tired, and less excited, and maybe not watching as avidly as I might otherwise. Got it, producers? Let it be. We love it, and we love it the more when it’s more real.
While you make some very good points, Laurie – particularly about the number of wins for female pros versus male pros (sans Derek the special case who wins when they don’t want him to) – there are a few nuances that are a bit neglected.
First, it’s not just about the number of wins in the whole female versus male pro argument – it’s about pimpage and treatment. While I don’t totally agree with Courtney’s arguments that she made the other day, I agree with a lot of it. I don’t think there is any question that VAL (not all the men…but VAL and to a lesser extent Maks) have been given seriously preferential treatment the last few years in order to get him and his brother some wins. Or to at least keep them around longer because they don’t have the skills to stick around on their own sans massive ringer. But it’s not just the women that suffer in order to benefit Val and Maks – it’s the other men too. Not as much as the women, lately, but they do. That said, the female pros have it worse than those men because not only do they get hosed by the producers to benefit the C-boys, they are less likely to get a ringer as a partner.
Second, while I agree that in the past Mark has been hosed (but he has also been the beneficiary of pimpage) – I don’t think that was true this season. It’s unfortunate that he had a great partner at the same time that Lindsay had a great partner. Hell, I was voting for Mark and Lindsey, but a large part of me wanted Lindsay to win because she never had before. AND I basically object to that concept (that a non winning pro should win over others) – “tough shit” you haven’t won before. So the hell what? You should win over a better dancer because you’ve never won before?? The better dancer has never won before either! Way too many people fall into that ridiculous mentality – next season we have to have Sharna win regardless?? I’m sorry, if Derek or Mark have a partner that they just slay the competition he should lose so (insert pro’s name) can finally get a MBT?? Uh, no. But this season was a bit different in that Lindsay has been killing it for a couple years now and has been coming up short. So, yes, I wanted to see her win. I don’t think it was rigged for her to win, I don’t think it was rigged to prevent Mark from winning. I’m seeing a lot of this commentary on twitter and I just don’t agree with it. Just because your favorite lost and the winner is going on tour it doesn’t mean it was rigged. It is never that simple – and there is no denying that Jordan is a great dancer. This was one of the least manipulated seasons in a long time – of course there was still some shit going down, but it wasn’t OTT.
By the same token, dumb ass Jordan fans still fighting with Mark/Lindsey fans on twitter – STFU. Tearing her down by bringing up the choreography stealing and her supposed massive experience is stupid as hell and just makes you sorry ass poor losers. YOU WON…let other fans be bitter for a bit. They will move on when YOU DO.
Okay, I’m sure I have more to say but I’m going to the movies. 🙂
Thanks for all of your thoughts Laurie, but I don’t agree with hardly any of them. To each their own. Do completely agree with PH.
It’s very hard to make a case where you think Maks and Val haven’t got tons of pimpage and preferential treatment over the years at the expense of others, mostly the female pros. It wasn’t like this early on, moreso the last 10 seasons or so, around when Val joined…. The show loves pushing the sexy male pros because of the largely female 30s-60s in age audience and seems to only reluctantly get behind the females when it’s clear they are probably just the most popular couple/celeb of the season a la Alfonso, Nyle, and Rashad. Also if you have watched for many seasons, I am surprised you even think there was a lot of manipulation this season compared to a lot of others in the past. We can almost prove with dozens of examples why that isn’t the case this season. They even tied the top 2 in the end to leave it up to the fans completely. There are many times when they will not do this in order to help a certain outcome along.
I definitely am on the same line of in general hating the ‘let’s get every person a trophy’ mentality….unless the work of the pro and couple is good enough to win and they are up against all previous pro winners. Then that is a tipping point for me. But if Sharna got a Nick Lachey-esque dancer for a partner next season for example, I would never say I think they should win, even thought I hope Sharna does get another great partnership to make a run for it a la Charlie and James.
This season was just the unfortunate case of two AWESOME teams (in partner connection, choreo, dance quality) on the same season. I certainly would have voted for Lindsey & Mark all season if there was no Jordan & Lindsay this season. I don’t think I have ever loved TWO teams in one season so much. And then Frankie & Witney as well though his dancing wasn’t quite enough for me to really really want him to win.
After this post I will likely be done with all things DWTS until more info about the mini athlete season comes out. I HATE the nastiness that comes out when people are disappointed with the outcome and then the fans of the winner that also get nasty back. And the ‘I’m not longer watching the show’ because basically I didn’t get my pick for winner attitude. The awful exchanges on social media. These two couples as people would never want you to act that way to ‘support’ them. I’ve been disappointed plenty over the years and still want to keep watching the show for many reasons, even despite some of the truly heavily manipulated seasons. Honestly for great positive entertaining seasons like this one is a big reason I still love to watch it, and yes, I would still say that even if my #2 pick Lindsey would have won instead of my #1 pick Jordan.
I’m certainly not upset nor have I decided to hang it up. I had myself prepared since the first few weeks. I’ve watched 18 seasons in a row and even though I have learned how things work, whether I like it or not, I love good dancing, and especially seeing the celebs grow throughout the season, and some become good dancers. This was one of the best seasons in a long time I have actually really enjoyed from beginning to end.
Watching the GMA and how well Lindsey & Mark were doing and their attitude, just made me even more proud of them. I was so happy to hear Alexander Jean will be opening for Lindsey’s tours. What a great blessing to each other.
I’m in with those who don’t think there should be a mindset of “a Pro who hasn’t gotten a MBT should win.” If that becomes the norm, then why even have celebs? Or, even call it “Dancing With The Stars (instead change it to Pros) This mindset could bring the show down, because if I was a celeb I wouldn’t want to even come on the show if it’s the Pro who wins mostly. Everyone would want the Pro partner who is next in line for the MBT. LOL!
Anyway, I’d like to say a great big T H A N K Y O U to John, Pheidi, Courtney, Vogue & Lori for all your work making Pure a fun and informative place to come to share our dancing addictions. 🙂
To everyone: Have a….H A P P Y 🙂 T H A N K S G I V I N G!!!
See you around,
KreativeKat
Glad to see Jordan and Lindsay win. They deserved it.
Question if anyone can answer?
Do you think any of the pros like Lindsay, Whitney. Sharna
will do this 4 week mini spinoff or will they wait till next season.
Maybe since it’s so short they could give it to some of the troupe so they could get exposure like Brit, and Haley.
Also does anyone think there will be a spring tour?
PH, completely agree with your comment #89, and thanks to you and all the other moderators for their fine work this season.
(And a special shout out to John for the new/upgraded server, which made the site so much faster!)
And just an aside – wasn’t Brittany Cherry one of the back-up dancers last night?
@stevet
Chances are nil the the majority of the current and even past DWTS pros would turn down a chance to do the mini spin-off if they get asked! It’s a great paying job and exposure to millions of people on TV. Mark maybe would say no depending on what other work he has around that time or slightly later. I understand Cheryl postponed a dance show she had planned so I don’t know what her 2018 looks like. But as far as we know, none of the others, have other projects excepting the Houghs and Kym Herjavec has her new studio.
So basically, it’s up to the producers and who they offer the spots to. But I seriously doubt they would shake things up that much. This is a new idea and so they’ll probably want pros they feel are audience favorites. I guess there’s an outside chance of one new face but there will only be 10 spots so there are more pros wanting to be on TV than positions.
I’m one who if I was just voting for which pro I wanted to get the MB would have been voting for Mark. But for as much as I adored Lindsey, their partnership, his choreo…I loved the partnership of Jordan/Lindsay more. I watch some of their dances over and over and over and I rarely do that. I like Lindsay a lot as a pro and think she’s been doing a stellar job since her return to the pro line up and am glad she got Jordan and really delivered, thus I’m glad she got the MB.
I can’t deny that I have voted in past based on pro though. I loved Karina as a pro and ever since her season with JR I supported whoever she had until they were eliminated then switched to various other pairs. And I actually like Emma more than Lindsay but didn’t vote for her this season, again because I fell hard for Jordan/Lindsay dancing.
Oh, and I want to add my voice to those thanking our mods for this site. Excellent job for yet another season! Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving!
Congrats to Jordan and Lindsay and thanks as always to the mods.
Happy Thanksgiving and a Blessed Holiday Season to all.
Congratulations to Jordan and Lindsay. Though not my pick, they are certainly not undeserving.
Adding my thanks to the mods for all your work through the season and year round.
Happy Thanksgiving to all who are celebrating.
I actually watched parts of the Finale live this season, and while I am not totally angry about the outcome, I am bummed that Mark and Lindsey didn’t win. I enjoyed the dancing of the top 2 couples very much. I do not agree with many above, because I do think the usual manipulation was at play, just a little different and a little more subtle. Of course, they have to wring every penny out of that darn tour, too. I continued to mute out or walk away from any Fam. member that appeared on my TV screen during the Finale.
How enjoyable to see the final 4 couples were not Fam. members, but were creative, insanely talented pros who have worked hard season after season and rarely received recognition for their efforts. I think these 4 raised the entertainment value of this old show to a level that we haven’t seen for a while. I hope the ratings reflected that, because more of us were inclined to watch because of these 4.
I have wanted a shorter DWTS season, with less participant couples, for quite a while now. This all athlete show is not quite what I envisioned, but we will see. If they bring back Charlie White, Nastia or include the Shibutanis after the Olympics, I might be inclined to watch. I definitely don’t want a string of football players and I certainly couldn’t support a show where the C Bros. and Fam. monopolize the air time and are pimped outrageously. But, of course, they only win when they are assigned an athlete or receive massive “help” along the way.
I also want to see the same dance styles assigned to each couple, and no contemporary or jazz. Let the freestyle resurface as something unique to look forward to at the Finale. Would absolutely love it if Julianne and Derek and Mark all participated and Tristan and Sasha, too. Of course, this will not happen.
Anyway, Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Guys (and P. Heidi) – in my above Comment #88 I specifically left off any,(well, much) examination of the WAY the even male/female pro success has come about. The extremely egregious pimpage of certain male pros hurts EVERYONE ELSE competing against them, female and male alike, and it would take a complete BOOK to write about all of subtle, not so subtle, and completely obvious forms it takes and ways which the pimpage has been, and continues to be,used. I just felt that, when the season’s quota of pimpage seemed mostly filled, (and mostly, failed), the producers just couldn’t resist another stab at affecting/assuring the outcome. And it was so obvious. And so unnecessary. But really not much to do with the comments on ‘female pro disadvantage because the male pros get more celebs with dance experience’ thesis that had prompted the section I wrote. I enjoy analysis of the show as much as the next guy (and maybe, more than many), but to get into complete analysis of producer pimpage and all of its uses and ramifications is MUCH more than I’m willing to even think about, much less organize and write down!
I do love to see the dance, and to think and read about the show, so once again, Thank You to everyone who does this site, and to those who comment, and a Happy Thanksgiving to all, and many Congratulations to all of the dancers, Winners and non-winners alike!
The mini-season in the spring will be coming after the Winter Olympics. I’m sure we all remember the outcome for the season after the last Winter Olympics…
So I’m predicting some figure skaters being part of the season. And I highly doubt pros would turn down the chance for another Meryl (or hugely under-appreciated Charlie).
IMO the right person won. People harp about Jordan being a Broadway star. Broadway doesn’t mean trained ballroom dancer. Yes, Jordan does have dance experience, but that was not ballroom. (And the main actors in Hamilton don’t have many full blown dance routines.) It just means he knows how to move to music. Musicians also have an advantage over non-musicians because of their understanding of musicality.
Moving forward, I want a ringer for Sasha! I find him to be the most under-appreciated pro. He produced such wonderful work with Terra, made Snooki likeable, and just keeps getting knocked to troupe. He’s a shorter pro, but he’s about the same height as Mark, who they always manage to have stars for.
I wanted Sharna to win with James, but now when I see her dancing, all I see is FACE!! She’s constantly mugging for the camera, and it gets distracting (and almost annoying). It’d still be great to see her win, but I personally want a Sasha win before a Sharna one.
@Blah Sasha Farber did have a ringer already. Simone Biles. But the producers DEFINITELY had an agenda there and they, plus the 3 Stooges, or was it 4 that round, were outright mean to the girl. I also think Terra Jole and Sasha did better than expected and there was some maneuvering to boot them before the Finale.
Personally, I think Sasha deserves a pro slot before Keo or Alan. And I don’t think it’s extraordinarily difficult to find petite contestants, even if they need 2. But TPTB treated Emma shabbily too until she wowed everyone and snatched the MB out from under ringers and preferred pros noses.
I don’t think anyone was saying there was no manipulation, Joanne. We’re just saying it was lower key…and I don’t think it was used to affect the outcome, beyond making sure Victoria made it to Semi-final week.
Sasha is “around the same height as Mark”?? No, not really. He’s 2 or more inches shorter than Mark and, like it or not, that makes a difference.
And you’re going to have to get used to the idea that Mark, Val and Maks are going to have a spot if they want one – over Sasha if necessary. They are the name pros. And if Derek were to ever decide to come back (doubtful) he would have a spot as well.
This is one area where the female pros are luckier than the men. Cheryl’s the only female that is likely to bump another female if she wants a spot.
I honestly don’t know why they keep pushing Keo. Nothing against the guy, but he just doesn’t seem the right fit for the show as a pro. The only time I liked him was with Jodie Sweetin, though she should have been paired with Val, after working together on Fuller House (which apparently Val wanted, but producers wanted to give their golden boy to ABC darling Ginger instead).
I do hope that Alan gets a pro next year too. He definitely earned his place on the show this year, what with being the designated fill-in the last few seasons. I’d rather see him as a pro ahead of Keo or Gleb (who I only liked when he did his Zoolander parody this season(.
@Princess Heidi According to a quick google search, Mark is 5’6 (168 cm), Sasha is about 5’7 (170 cm). He’s also taller than Emma (without heels), who’s 5’5 (165 cm).
But I agree – they will keep giving the ‘name’ men the top stars. Until those big names no longer want to do the show, and then they finally give good ones to the ‘lower’ ones. Even with Val – it took a few seasons for him to get the good ones.
It is the producer’s job to manipulate or somehow control what they can to achieve the advertiser goals of increased viewership to certain demographics. They probably have a lot of marketing research data to help them. I’ve never believed they would manipulate the vote directly and I’m not sure they really care who wins. What they do control are the contestants. ABC shows, athletes, reality stars, an older and younger person, someone to drive Maks nuts, etc. I also think they consider a few people who have the potential to be great to keep dance fans interested the first half of the season. I think about this stuff all season just for fun.
Thanks to all who make this website available.
I’m making up my list for the spring Athlete Mini Season and so far would like to see Sasha with Kacy Catanzaro. She recently retired from ANW and has some collegate gymnast skills. Also sweet, and may be available.
Rhonda Rousey just retired. Either of the Williams sisters would boost ratings.
Lindsey Von & Mikaela Shiffrin may be over the ski season by then. Or Hannah Teter (snowboarding).
Summer sports people may not have time, but would love Katie Ledecky. A maybe she could bring along Phelps for the guys side.
Saw another poster wanting Johnny Weir & I would second that! Also believe Scott Hamilton would be awesome if his health allows.
Wonder if John Cena would consider it? (too close to the wedding?)
Any other suggestions/wish list athletes?
There are some great big-name figure skaters planning to end their competitive careers after the Olympics:
Ashley Wagner, Tessa Virtue/Scott Moir (shades of their rivals Meryl and Charlie), Patrick Chan…
Though this isn’t the best time to recommend her, with her current health issues, it would be nice to see Gracie Gold participate.
I agree that Johnny Weir would be great. Tara Lipinski too! Johnny would have an interesting personality for the show, and his former rivalry with Evan Lysacek would definitely be brought up.
It would also be interesting if they would bring in retired fan-favourite skater Daisuke Takahashi. He was part of Cheryl’s ‘Love on the Floor’ tour (with Meryl, Charlie, and Kristi) in Japan last year, and was always a great performer.
Hey Guys, we’ll be posting a new Wish List post soon for the Athlete Mini Season. So, stay tuned.
Just wondering …where was Cheryl Burke for the finale? I don’t think that I saw her at all.
I’d LOVE to see Shaun Cassidy do DWTS.
I would love to see Shaun White….
ok, ok, I’ll stop already
Yes, yes, yes!! We NEED interviews with the winners!!! They had them in the past, with both second place competitors and the winners!! Really miss them!! Thank you for all of the work on this website♥️✌️
Yeah you realize that anyone can change those stats, right Blah?? Mark is 5’8″ and Sasha is 5’5″ or 5’6″. Do you think I started doing this yesterday??
This is why this country is in so much trouble – people believe what they read on the internet with out question.
I saw the 2 Night Finale. I thought the dancing and chereography was wonderful. But, that was about it. It was the same as other seasons. They had Fusion Dances. When they had this, to me, is still the wrong way of doing things. You are supposed to, in a dance contest, doing 1 dance for each couple. You don’t mix dances with each other. They did this time, like they did other times. The 1st night, they gave they announced the winner of American Idol. This was more stupidity on this show’s part. It should have been announced on their own show. The 2nd night they had a part called Redemption Dances. This is also a wrong thing to me on their part. They already know how to do these dances from before. In earler seasons, they did dances they didn’t know at the end. This was more fairer this way. This is unfair this way. What if 1 couples dance is harder than the other couples? What if 1 couples chereography is harder than the other couples? They should from the 1st week do the same dances as each other. Than 1 couple is elminated. Then week 2 the remaining 12 couples do another dance, but the same dance as each other. Then they eliminate the next couple. Then they continue on. If you want to see something more fairer than this, their is something on TV you can see. It is on Channel 13. It is called America’s Ballroom Challenge. It is an actual U.S. Dance Competition. It is from Columbus Ohio, and it has actual champions. This is more fairer in the way they do this. I know something about dancing myself. I have done Social Dancing and I know everyone does the same dance as each other on the dance floor. There was also something that was unfair about this Season 25. I know Jordan Fisher and Lindsay Arnold won. It was fair they won because they were the best pair there. It was unfair in another way. This was because Jordan Fisher had prior dance training and experience. This was from the Broadway show Hamilton and the TV Movie Grease. If he didn’t have this I wonder if he would have really won. They should people all the time on D.W.T.S., that don’t have dance training or experience. I have told ABC TV this many times. They have gone right back and done this again anyway. I also find it uncanny that Linsay Arnold aa a Dance Pro beat Mark Ballas. Mark Ballas was her very own mentor and instructor. I am not going to see The Sports Special next season. This is more stupidity by this contest. It only has sports stars and is only 4 weeks. I am going to wait for the Fall Season for the next one. Some people might wonder why I watch this program after I comment on these things on the Pure DWTS website. I watch this contest because I like to watch dancing anyway and I learn things from it. I also watch this because I love the dancing of Derek, Cheryl, Mark, Peta, Sharna and Karina. Unfortunately, Karina was not on this time. Also, I have not voted for anyone in years because of things that happened and their set-up. You probably recognize some of these comments from before. You probably recognize my name from before. This long comment comes from Steven Lantz of Brooklyn, New York.